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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, and welcome to the podcast. I was going

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Speaker 2: to go for a really Robert Evans intro there, but

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Speaker 2: I bottled it. I own a coward and I couldn't

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 3: I hate all of you.

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Speaker 2: It's Margaret Kiljoy, everyone here to spread the good news.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to rap at Evans that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, yeah, and it doesn't he only hate a

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Speaker 2: certain percentage of them, all right, Statistically speaking.

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Speaker 3: He likes some of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And because I know some nice people list in

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Speaker 2: there Robert likes. Maybe it's you, maybe it's not. You'll

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Speaker 2: never know. Today we're not here to talk about who

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Speaker 2: Robert Evans likes. But we are here to talk about

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Speaker 2: what to do if your house is going to burn

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Speaker 2: down or you have to leave because they think it

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Speaker 2: might burn down. This is obviously a topic that is

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Speaker 2: front of mind for people in southern California currently, given

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Speaker 2: the massive wildfires that have engulfed whole neighborhoods of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: There are fires in Ventura and Start as well. Now

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Speaker 2: the whole of East County San Diego is under a

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Speaker 2: red flag warning. Fire conditions continue because climate change continues,

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Speaker 2: and we have decided as a society not to do

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Speaker 2: anything about that, and so this shit is going to

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Speaker 2: be the rest of our lives.

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Speaker 3: If you're on the East Coast or somewhere else and

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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I'm fine, I'm not on the West Coast,

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Speaker 3: bad news for you. You're not fine. Slowly, more and

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Speaker 3: more the East Coast, including the northeast, is being seen

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Speaker 3: in fire out east as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeap, the United Kingdom as wildfires now a thing did

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Speaker 2: not exist.

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Speaker 3: Do you all even have wild over there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We have like land owned by the monarch fires,

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Speaker 2: we have like parks and protected land. We don't really have.

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Speaker 2: We have commons to a degree, but not not like

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Speaker 2: public land of the US does. Like when I was

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Speaker 2: a kid, we used to burn the stuff into draw fields.

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Speaker 2: Like that's how how a few fucks we gave about fires.

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Speaker 2: We just burn it in a plat back in and

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Speaker 2: air quality. I guess that is not a thing that

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Speaker 3: That's probably for the best.

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Speaker 2: Fire it's coming for you. It's happening everywhere. Hooray, hooray. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: lucky you. The cleansing fire. I feel like there's a

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Speaker 2: John Betchaman poem I could go off with here, but

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Speaker 2: I'll spare you all right. So, if you are in

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Speaker 2: a place where you are very likely to have to

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Speaker 2: evacuate your home soonish for a fire, here are some

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Speaker 2: things that you may wish to consider doing. I've harvested

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Speaker 2: these from mutual a groups in LA and from the

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Speaker 2: Cowfire website, where they give you advice on what to

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Speaker 2: do if you're evacuating. The first thing that you want

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Speaker 2: to do is turn off your gas. For those of

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Speaker 2: you who are not familiar, this is a flammable substance,

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Speaker 2: and your gas pipe rupturing and then catching on fire

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Speaker 2: would be bad, would be sad. It's pretty easy to

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Speaker 2: do this. Normally, you should have a valve near the meter.

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Speaker 2: Some places we'll have what's called earth quake shut off

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that. In fact, i'm pretty certain those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or like grandfathered into or whatever. M hmm yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, given that people outside California are listening and the

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Speaker 2: earthquakes are are fortunately not coming for us all just yet,

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Speaker 2: I would just suggest that you try and find where

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Speaker 2: your gas shut off is now. It's often where the

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Speaker 2: and normally you're going to need some kind of tool

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Speaker 3: The people at California that you're talking to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, Hi, fellow Californians. You can turn that

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Speaker 2: valve so it turns parallel with the pipe. That's kind

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Speaker 3: Do you mean a perpendicular to the pipe. I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: I think parallel is shut off.

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Speaker 3: Interesting with water, you turn it off by moving a perpendicular.

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Speaker 3: I've never messed with a gas line. I've lived weird

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Speaker 2: Sorry, it wants to be at ninety degrees to the pipe. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Can just kind of imagine as like when it's in line,

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Speaker 2: That's much easier visually if you imagine like the hole

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want to turn that off? I've seen

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Speaker 2: some suggestions that you want to turn water off. Generally,

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Speaker 2: to hook up your outdoor hoses to your outdoor taps

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Speaker 2: be used. I have seen some suggestions to turn water

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Speaker 3: And it seems like that's probably a like city versus

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Speaker 3: should listen to your local authorities around this kind of thing, right,

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Speaker 2: There might even be on your city website. Some of

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Speaker 2: it is useful. This is a useful thing if you

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Speaker 2: do need to turn off your water. Again, water shut

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably turning off your water. Yeah, but if

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Speaker 2: You can sometimes be at the side of your house.

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Speaker 3: We're now talking about city water again, right, municipal water, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where if you have a water meat box

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Speaker 2: It's if you do it now, you don't have to

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Speaker 3: Do I need that? Right?

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Speaker 2: Because like I've evacuated for wildfires living in California a

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Speaker 3: So it turned out to be the wrong thing.

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Speaker 2: It's like, cool, I've got three bicycles here, let me

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Speaker 3: And you can get something called a water key or

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Speaker 3: And these are just cheap things that have like basically

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Speaker 3: I've first learned about this from squatters, so it would

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Speaker 3: And they they're built in specialized ways to try and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you couldn't use your standard socket set or

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Speaker 2: and they're not very expensive you can buy.

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Speaker 3: They're also not very high quality. This isn't the kind

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Speaker 3: This is just going to help firefight to see things

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Speaker 3: to see a lot of stuff about looting. I will

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Speaker 3: tell you right now that the people who are looting

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Speaker 3: from wildfire survivors are the landlords who are charging one

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, lucky you like I hope you don't get burned,

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Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, compared to if a firefighter needs to

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Speaker 2: corporate news. If you can close metal shutters on your

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Speaker 2: windows but remove curtains, flammable things near windows generally not

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Speaker 2: a good idea, right, that makes sense. So if you've

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Speaker 2: never purchase curtains and just I don't have to have

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Speaker 2: the sun in your face. You know what is happening

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Speaker 2: to right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to start a whole interior design thing.

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Speaker 3: And when I see James interior design where you hang

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Speaker 2: Yeah, James's effectively squatting in a house that he actually rents.

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Speaker 2: You should also move flammable items into the middle of

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Speaker 2: And then before you go, choose an outfit that covers

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. If your porch is wooden, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, amusingly, we use one of those. When I was

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Speaker 2: I suppose know how to open that, Margaret. Now will

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Speaker 3: Or electric horse. Oh yeah, maybe do they dream of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you have animals inside your house, pets

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Speaker 3: Like in a live one.

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Speaker 3: W'll probably want to chip your dog as you chip

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Speaker 2: for them. They have advice if you have to leave

439
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 2: your pet, which would be a pretty heartbreaking situation to

440
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:35,679
Speaker 2: be honest.

441
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that choosing to be in charge of

442
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 3: an animal's entire life is a pretty solemn vow.

443
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree, and I don't think I would

444
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 2: leave them to burn.

445
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,360
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, but I guess there's probably I mean,

446
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,199
Speaker 3: you see, like for example, I know we're gonna talk

447
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,719
Speaker 3: about livestock in a second, but like you know, people

448
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 3: have had to like let loose some of their horses

449
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 3: because they can only personally escort so many horses or whatever. Right.

450
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, a few years ago, my friend and I were

451
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,239
Speaker 2: in a situation where a stables had more horses than

452
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: it did vehicles. Yeah, and were able to go in

453
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 2: a vehicle with a towdruck and just help, Like they

454
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 2: would load them up and just be like go to

455
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 2: the evacuation point with these horses. Yeah, and so having

456
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 2: a plan.

457
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:20,880
Speaker 3: For that is good.

458
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know, I struggled be conceive of leaving pets.

459
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 2: I grew up with dogs and like they were part

460
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 2: of my family.

461
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. I suppose there's some situation I am not imagining

462
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: where it is literally a necessity, but I struggle to Yeah.

463
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 2: I heard about people in LA who were forced to

464
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 2: leave relatives who were not mobile, which is just fucking heartbreaking,

465
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 2: just you know, one of the worst things I could

466
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: imagine happening.

467
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 3: Which is literally why I actually think that your evacuation plans.

468
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 3: Not trying to blame those people that we're talking about,

469
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 3: but I believe that your evacuation plans need to include

470
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 3: people with disabilities who are in your area, not just

471
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 3: were you not just in your house, but elsewhere. Like yeah, hundred,

472
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 3: if you have someone who can only travel by a wheelchair,

473
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 3: then you should be considering for your only vehicle a

474
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 3: wheelchair accessible vehicle. Like this is the kind of thing

475
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: that I think that, like plans need to include people

476
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 3: who are at different levels of ability.

477
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if you have older people in your neighborhood, Yeah,

478
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: people who might not have their cell phone on or

479
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: on them all the time. They might not get that

480
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: like beat beat buzz buzz.

481
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. If you have like older folks who live alone

482
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: in your neighborhood, you should know that.

483
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, a few years ago I helped

484
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 2: some older neighbors evacuate.

485
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 1: Yah.

486
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: You live in a community and you need to take

487
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 2: responsibility and take care of one another. If you have

488
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: livestock again, like you know, I grew up with livestock,

489
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: I think you're taking responsibility for the animal's life, and

490
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 2: that includes situations where you might have to help that

491
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: animal escape in a way that leg is not necessarily

492
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: like lucrative for you. Right, So that might just mean

493
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 2: opening your fences, right, opening your gates if you're not

494
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: able to evacuate them, or at least giving it a

495
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: chance you can before just to avoid having yourself in

496
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: that situation. Need to make transport arrangements. You should be

497
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 2: able to look where large animals refuges are, like San

498
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: Diego in the big fires, maybe fifteen years ago, they

499
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: have them on Fiesta Island for a while. Little island

500
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: out in the bay or del Mar Race Course is

501
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: often a place of San Diego where you can take them.

502
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 2: You should be able to find that now, if you're

503
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, you can find that. Now. Again, you're

504
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 2: going to want to have your essential documentation. You are

505
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 2: not going to want nylon halters for your livestock. I've

506
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: seen a lot of people have, Like people have nylon

507
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: lead ropes for horses. We had like more hempy ones

508
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: when I was younger, just because those a much left

509
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: likely to melt, right, So that's why we had them

510
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: in the UK. But we had them because we'd have

511
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 2: them for a long time. But plastic key things that

512
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: can melt. You don't want to put them around your

513
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: horse's head or near your horse.

514
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 3: Okay, that makes some sense.

515
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have chickens right now, you're going to

516
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: run into the issue of AV and flu. Oh yeah,

517
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: which is a further complications. So like this is a

518
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: scenario of like a big chicken shelter where you take

519
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 2: them is not a good one for AV you and

520
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: flu reasons also for like chicken dynamics reasons. So that

521
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: means you should make a plan. Now, you might have

522
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: a friend who you're like, hey, I know that you're

523
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: not normally a poultry person, but would it be cool

524
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: in the event of us having to evacuate for me

525
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: and my chickens to come and stay at your house.

526
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: Making a plan. Now, it's going to avoid you being

527
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: in a very difficult situation of either driving around with

528
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: your birds in your in your truck being like where

529
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 2: the fuck can I go? Or like being turned away

530
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: from places. Right. Yeah, The last thing I have here

531
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: and then we're going to move on to packing your

532
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: go bag is insurance. My house flooded when I was

533
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: a kid, Like, it completely leveled the first floor of

534
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 2: the house.

535
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 3: Everything was gone, which, since it's England, is actually the

536
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 3: second floor to Americans.

537
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. It was actually the great Yeah.

538
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 3: I love to uh it's the ground the ground floor

539
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 3: you have to hide on the first thing.

540
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

541
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

542
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: I love to go into a lift and be confused

543
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: in this country after sixteen years of living here, go

544
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: up and down, up and down, playing this stupid game

545
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: until I google what do American call their flaws? And

546
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: you can't do it, so you're in the lift and

547
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: your phone doesn't work. It's one of my favorite experiences.

548
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: It's because you try to google what do American lifts do?

549
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: And they're like What the fuck is a lik.

550
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true. Yeah yeah, an elevator. It's

551
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: not an elevating experience. Away my favorite thing to pick. James,

552
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

553
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. Sure, I'm the only person who does it.

554
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure it never happened to me.

555
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was never an issue when I worked in

556
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: a building with a lift and would routinely miss my

557
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: own floor.

558
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 3: So that I just took the fire escape.

559
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: So I remember it taking months the time I was

560
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: working in construction, and what we were doing was for

561
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: the most part, pulling wet carpet out of people's homes

562
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: that have flooded. Highly recommend not doing that as a

563
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: way to make a living if you can. It's not

564
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: good for the body, not good for the soul, for

565
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: the lung. It's probably cleaning out restaurants. Like a month

566
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: later the power had been off from month. Just going

567
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: into the walk in. Oh my god, I've never seen

568
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: so many people vomit, like one after the other being like, no,

569
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: I could do it. I'm a builder straight, Like, yeah,

570
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: pretty horrific. So don't recommend if you can go around

571
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: your house taking a video.

572
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: Of your yeah stuffs, it will.

573
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: Just make it easier, Like this happened to my family,

574
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 2: and like maybe you know, the early two thousands, so

575
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 2: it wasn't possible. Well, I mean I could have got

576
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: the old like Sony handicam out I didn't. So now

577
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: you know you have a video camera in your pocket

578
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: going around your house taking a video especially of you know,

579
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: the things that are expensive and hard to move that

580
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: you're going to rely on insurance to replace.

581
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then this is actually a decent regular prepper

582
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: practice regardless. This isn't a like, oh I'm just about

583
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: to have to run out for a fire. This is

584
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: a like every six months or every year, or every

585
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: time you get a new, weird, expensive thing that you

586
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: put in your house, make this video so that it's

587
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: easier to prove all of the stuff that you had

588
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 3: that needs to be replaced. Yeah, if you do that

589
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: on a regular basis, there's a little bit of like

590
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: security of like where do you put it? Do you

591
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: really want? You know? But it's honestly, for almost all

592
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 3: people probably totally fine to just have that, yeah on

593
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 3: the cloud, Yeah yeah, I think I think it. Don't

594
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: put it on Facebook, but you can get it directly.

595
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: Ensure it's going to be your Instagram where you post

596
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: an interior video of your home every month. Yeah, that's

597
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: that's your thing. I guess join us next month for

598
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: behind the podcast. Yeah, podcast crips.

599
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 3: It's just in my shed.

600
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 2: It's me critiquing your interior you have. That would be

601
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: a weekly podcast for some time. Shame James and James

602
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 2: Shame podcasts la Things that I've heard people thinks that

603
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: you will need. If you have a nebulizer, if you're

604
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: a person who uses a nebulizer to help them breathe,

605
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: those are in very high demands. You're probably not going

606
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: to be able to replace it, so bring that with you.

607
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: If you have medications, ideally grab the meds in the

608
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: little orange thing and take those with you. That where

609
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: you've got the RX number and you can easily go

610
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: to a pharmacy and be like, hey, this is my

611
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: prescription for me. It has my name and the RX number.

612
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: Can you issue me an emergency supply? And that's something

613
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: they should be able to do. And also if you

614
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: grab the whole bottle, then you've got, you know, hopefully

615
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: a decent supply, Hopefully your insurance isn't annoying and only

616
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: lets you go three weeks at a time.

617
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that comes up for a lot of people.

618
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: But I will not name any companies because I think

619
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 2: it is against my contract to do that. I will

620
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: say that if you have like your important documents, right,

621
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: you're potentially your deed to your house, if you're own

622
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: on your car, your passport, your birth certificate is a

623
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: big one.

624
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right to be in this country.

625
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, any dream card, visa, that kind of thing, especially

626
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: those in the after Well, this will come out in

627
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: the era of Trump two point zero. So those documents

628
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: are going to be very important for some people. Right,

629
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: you're darker registration, Put those in a file and grab

630
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 2: the whole thing, bring it with you.

631
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: Do not rely on.

632
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 2: Scan copies of those, especially your immigration documents. If you're

633
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: a person who has firearms, records of the serial numbers

634
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: of those are going to be useful. And again I

635
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: would just snap a picture. It's not reasonable or sensible

636
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: to be taking a lot of firearms with you in

637
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: a situation like this. You're not going to need them,

638
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 2: and there's.

639
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: Gona be a lot of places that you won't want

640
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: to bring them.

641
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I would suggest locking them up and

642
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: like I say, documenting that you've done that, you may

643
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: have to prove at some point that firearm no longer exists,

644
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: and then they're probably the best way to do that.

645
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: And being prepared to travel on foot. Like I said,

646
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: another thing that people have been needing and not having

647
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: is P one hundred masks. So that's a particle filter

648
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: generally in the three M and I think the Honeywell

649
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: filters they're pink, so I'm talking about like a screw

650
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: in filter here, although they.

651
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: Do make P one hundred masks that are more like

652
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: they more like COVID masks. Yeah, they're just a little

653
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: bit thicker and yeah.

654
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah they're a little bit more sort of burdensome than

655
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: those masks, but that is what you need if you're

656
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: in those situations. Yeah, so if you have one of those,

657
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: I have ones like when I'm when I'm a poxying wood,

658
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: I have a little half face respirated I wear for that.

659
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: We will actually talk about masks, Margaret, after some of

660
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: the products and services support the show have talked about themselves.

661
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Speaker 3: It'd be pretty sick of a honey Well. Yeah, yeah,

662
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: they'd be pretty small. Yep. All right, here we go.

663
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: All right, we're back, thank you, honey. Well, yeah, well,

664
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: keeping us safe from here gas.

665
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: Although I'm kind of a three M girl, I gotta admit,

666
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: Oh controversial, Okay, I know. So. One of the things

667
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: I did during twenty twenty was a lot of testing

668
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: of protest care. And if you want to see, I've

669
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: written up a whole bunch of pieces about exactly everything

670
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: about masks in body armour and blah blah blah blah blah.

671
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: But in general, when you think about masks, there's sort

672
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: of three levels that actually are matter a useful. There's

673
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: the version that we kind of see as a COVID mask.

674
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: There's a version where it's like you you wear it

675
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: around your face and you make sure you need to

676
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: get a rated one and N ninety five is better

677
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: than nothing for smoke, but a P one hundred is better.

678
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: And then there is a half mask respirator. Half mask

679
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: respirators are great. They are probably the sweet spot for this.

680
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: They are less good for pandemics because they do not

681
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: filter the xhale. They are better for your daily life

682
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: because they don't filter the xhale. It's much easier to

683
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: breathe with a half mask. Respirator than a fabric mask,

684
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 3: and you can switch out the cartridges and unfortunately almost

685
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: all of them are various proprietary types of filters, and

686
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: the bayonet mount is the three M style. There's a

687
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: NATO version. If something looks more like a gas mask,

688
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: it's probably the NATO screw on kind. So you can

689
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: get a half mask respirator, or you can a fold

690
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: face respirator, which is more or less what looks like

691
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: a gas mask, but those coming kind of civilian styles

692
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: that are using the same three M brand or Honeywell

693
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: or whatever cartridges, or you can get the more military

694
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: style that'll have the NATO style screw in. The military

695
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: style is kind of overkill in terms of it'll position

696
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: you oddly socially. Yes, set me a fire, Yeah, I

697
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: think that a thing that is worth everyone having. Are

698
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: these respirators a half mask respirator or depending on your life,

699
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: like if you use them a lot, or you're going

700
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: to be protesting, or there's a lot of different reasons

701
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: you might want a full face one. They make really

702
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: cheap knockoff ones that you can get imported, although maybe

703
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: if you're listening to this in the future, you can't

704
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: get it imported, but they work fairly well, they're just

705
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: not quite as good. I've tested a whole bunch of

706
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: them against various impacts and things like that. I think

707
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: that half masks are great. I keep a half mask

708
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: in my truck literally for wildfire smoke, because when I'm traveling,

709
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: if I'm driving out west, I've been around wildfire smoke

710
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: while traveling before. Another thing, just really quickly. They make

711
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: these for dogs as well, so cool. They're more like

712
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: COVID mask style. And my dog hates it. Yeah, you know,

713
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: but you could train your dog into not hating it.

714
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: I just haven't. I just keep it around to be like,

715
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: well if it really if we had to sleep in

716
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: the vehicle in a smoky area, my dog would hate it,

717
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: and he would put up with it, you know, and

718
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: he would survive.

719
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

720
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like masks. Yes, they're great.

721
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are good. The hat face respirator is great. Yeah,

722
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: that's what I used, like could say when I'm at poxying,

723
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: so I don't get high because that would be bad.

724
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, and then really quickly about physical stuff like

725
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: deeds and all of that stuff. Yeah. I'm actually kind

726
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: of curious because it's like I see why it matters

727
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: the most to have the physical originals mm hmm for

728
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: most crises. A lot of people talk about how safety

729
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: deposit boxes at banks are kind of the way to

730
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: go for stuff like that you don't need on a

731
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 3: regular basis. This wouldn't be your proof of documentation necessarily,

732
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: but it might be your like birth certificate, maybe like

733
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: deeds and titles and things at a safe deposit box,

734
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: because then if your house burns down, it's still fine.

735
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: La.

736
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: Wildfire kind of disproves this a little bit, right, because

737
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: then you're like, well, what if your bank burns down?

738
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then if.

739
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: It's not on your property, you can't grab it and go,

740
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: So it's a little bit complicated. I think overall, I

741
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: think that there's a real advantage to keeping stuff in

742
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: a safety deposit box off site. And then also I

743
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 3: just want to shout out that fire proof safes aren't fireproof.

744
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, not for the situation and we're talking about here right.

745
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: They are designed for like your kitchen catches fire or

746
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: your bed catches fire, and your safe is under your bed.

747
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the firefighters come and they get out in

748
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes.

749
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: But some stuff gets charred right when there is a

750
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: structure fire and a structure is destroyed. Fireproof safes, like

751
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: all other safes, are generally not protecting their contents, and

752
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: that's not the safe fault of the fire safe, it's

753
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: just they're not designed for that.

754
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: Google the melting point of steel for this and many

755
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: other interesting Internet things that you can learn.

756
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: If jet fuel can't melt fire proof.

757
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: Safe, yeah, which is why they build buildings out of it.

758
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: Oh and one more thing about documents really quick, While

759
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: the original matters, having copies is like better than nothing,

760
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: and also just like scanning and having them on encrypted

761
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: hard like encrypted USB stick, a little USB stick with

762
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: all of your stuff is a really pretty good thing

763
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: to have. It has some advantages too, right, because sometimes

764
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: you don't want the originals of your documents, Like, for example,

765
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: you probably want a list of all of your bank accounts,

766
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: the bank account numbers, your pins or your credit card numbers,

767
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: like all of that stuff that you really don't want

768
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: someone else to have, but if you lost you would

769
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: be really sad. You probably want digital encrypted copies of

770
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: that available to you. Yeah. Yeah, also your like master

771
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: passwords and all that terrible horrible stuff that's scary to

772
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: put onto a USB stick.

773
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's why you're putting it then on the internet. Yeah,

774
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: so really quickly, Margaret, it's going to be a long one.

775
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: I guess you and I talked about prepper stuff.

776
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: It went long.

777
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, shocking go bags. We've done a whole episode on.

778
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: If you're new to the show, Hello Welcome, you can

779
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: go back and listen to Margaret and James talking about

780
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: go bags. We'll try and put a link in the

781
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: description here for you. But what is the like super

782
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: fast speed round version of what you want to put

783
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: in your go back?

784
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: Oh?

785
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: Lord, change of socks and underwear, your basic toiletries, like

786
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: the kind of like travel toiletries, because your go back

787
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: is like more like so it's not gona be a

788
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: long tangent. Your go back is like more likely I

789
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: have to spend the night in my car than like

790
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: I'm starting a new life somewhere out in the planes. Yeah.

791
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: And so the small little things like bring deodorant, even

792
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 3: if you don't have deodorant in your daily life, because

793
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: you might be crammed into a place with lots of

794
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 3: other people.

795
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: I've seen tons of requests for deodorant in the La

796
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: mutal a chat almost every day.

797
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense. So basic

798
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: toiletries and a little bit extra to share. I think

799
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: whether or not you menstright, you should have tampons for example,

800
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: and your go back, and so I think that the

801
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: basic toiletries basic first day's less survival stuff, and then

802
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: like change of clothes, and also like at least one

803
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: or two morale items. I keep a Nintendo switch in

804
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: my go bag. It Skyrim is I need a Skyrim

805
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: box in order to fight anxiety sometimes. Yeah.

806
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get those tiny little game boys now

807
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: which have like it looks like a game boy every game,

808
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: every game ever. Yeah, yeah, I have one of those

809
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: in their two okay sick. Yeah, those would be a

810
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: perfect item for one of those that.

811
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: Actually I had like almost no electricity at the beginning

812
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 3: of COVID, and so the ability to play the Sega

813
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: Genesis version of Shadow Run from like the nineties was

814
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: crucial to me because I didn't have enough electricity to

815
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: run a computer.

816
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, that's fine, and it's probably going to

817
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: be more important to you than half the shit you

818
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: see people online putting in their go backs, Like yeah,

819
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: you don't need a gender affirming hatchet.

820
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: You will.

821
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: You will have a lot more fun with your tiny

822
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: game boy things that you don't needther I see people.

823
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: I see people houlding a lot of food. Everyone who's

824
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: evacuated in LA is having a miserable time. They are

825
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: eating the best they ever have. So many people want

826
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 2: to help, and food is a way that so many

827
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: of us express affection and careful one another. So many

828
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: people are getting fed right now, thanks for the efforts

829
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: to beat A groups. Really remarkably doesn't seem to be

830
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: so much by you'd think La, a city on a

831
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: major fault line, would would have some kind of supplies

832
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: for an earthquake that required feeding lots of people. Seems

833
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: like it's it's more vibes based for the city. But

834
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: you know, surprise surprises mutual A groups who are feeding

835
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: people and they're doing that really well. So you don't

836
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: need to hold a lot of food.

837
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: Having a little bit of food though a little bit

838
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: of shelf stable food. I really recommend bars you don't

839
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: like as the food that you put in your go bag,

840
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: because if you put in bars that you do like,

841
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: you're going to eat them when you're bored one day, Yeah,

842
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: and you don't want to go to the store.

843
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: II doly recommend I say this.

844
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: Literally all of the bars in all my bags have

845
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 3: been eating yeah the past week. But that's because there's

846
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: been like a winter storm, so I haven't been out

847
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: to the grocery store and I just have been like

848
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: sugarcreavy and so I eat even the grossbars. I live

849
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: in San Diego.

850
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: I have no hues so to do it because I

851
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: can't be bothered to leave my offace and go to

852
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: my kitchen sometimes.

853
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, So find the one that you don't like, put

854
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: it in your bag. Just have a couple. It's not

855
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: to keep you sustained. It's to keep you from being grouchy. Like,

856
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: don't think of it as like I need to put

857
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 3: entire meals in my go bag. Think of it as

858
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: like I need enough sugar and whatever to keep my

859
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: headspace right. Yeah.

860
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: I kind of like to lay them in between things

861
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: I do is when I'm camping to I'll get like

862
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: those little peanut butter packets, yeah, and just like just

863
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 2: to throw a few in there. And then you're like, oh, yeah,

864
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: you know what, I am being cranky And that means

865
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: you snuff this and I'm going to be beat at. Yeah.

866
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: I do highly recommend peanut butter. I take it when

867
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: I travel a lot as well. It's like a comfort

868
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: food for me. It's filling, it's compact. It's not that

869
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: bad for you.

870
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: When I lived out of a backpack, I kept a

871
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: plastic jar of peanut butter at the bottom of my

872
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: pack always because I knew, no matter what, I had

873
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: at least two days worth of calories in the bottom

874
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: of my bag. Yeah.

875
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a wonderful thing, peanut butter. So yeah, put

876
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: some of that in there. There are things that, like,

877
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: you probably don't need shelter, right, but it might be

878
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: nice to have a little compact blanket, right, especially if

879
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: you're going to have to stay. One of those one thing,

880
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: little comfort item that I always take. I've taken this

881
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: all over the world. It's an inflatable pillow. Like there

882
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: are a lot of hardships that I will endure. I

883
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: like to sleep on a pillow, and so I take

884
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: a inflatable pillow. So it's something that you know, you

885
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: will have comfort items like that that are things for you.

886
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 2: I'll put those in there. I would avoid watching too

887
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: much go bag content on YouTube because you're going to

888
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: get anxious about the fact that you don't have like

889
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: a folding short barrels rifle. And that's because you don't

890
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: need it, nor do you need like a Like I'm

891
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: sitting next to my bullet profess that I've used before

892
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: for work. I'm not taking it with me staying here. Yeah,

893
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: I did spend a lot of money on the plate,

894
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: so I will be claiming those on insurance. But you

895
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: don't need that stuff. People are taking care of one another,

896
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: and so pack with the things that will help you

897
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: be comfortable. And consider that you might be spending a

898
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: while in a hotel or a hostel or a refuge

899
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: or staying with a friend or family members yea, and

900
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: think what would make that more comfortable for you.

901
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: I think that's the really good way to put it.

902
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 3: It's the get out of town for the weekend. Bag.

903
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: Y's not the end of the world bag. I think

904
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: that if you are more rural, you might want some

905
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: basic camping stuff. Yeh, yeah, definitely, but the average person

906
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 3: probably doesn't. I mostly have this at the like there's

907
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: my go bag, and then there's the stuff that's kind

908
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: of always in my truck.

909
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I'm at too. I like to go camping,

910
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: so I have my camping stuff in my truck because

911
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: then it takes me less time to go camping.

912
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so like, I am almost certainly not bugging

913
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: out on foot from my house. And if I had to,

914
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: then I would have to bring a not my go bag,

915
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: I would have to bring a hiking bag, you know.

916
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

917
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 3: Most of the time, if you have access to a

918
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: car and roads, because you're escaping an emergency, you're getting

919
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: to somewhere with enough civilization that you have, you can

920
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 3: expect some level of shelter and food.

921
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, but I do.

922
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: I will say, have some water. Don't go overboard, like

923
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: I think that having like a little bit of like

924
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: chemical water filtration and a water bottle or a little

925
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: water filter and a water bottle, you know the reason not.

926
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: To Yeah, I will say specifically, like get a soil squeeze.

927
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: They are tiny filtration, better than most other filters that

928
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: are that size. Get it, put it in your backpack,

929
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: leave it there. They're handy to have, and then yeah,

930
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: get a little uh I like to have again, this

931
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: is a little comfort thing I like to have a

932
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: stain of steel now gene size bottle. It's not made

933
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: by analogy think, it's made by clean canteen. I like

934
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: it so I could drink water out of it. I

935
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: like it because it's not plastic. And I like it

936
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: because I can use it to heat up water when

937
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: it's really cold and have it like a little hot

938
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: water bottle and snuggle with it. Yeah, so that's a

939
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: nice thing.

940
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I use also like a single wall steel canteen

941
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: so that you can heat water in it. If you

942
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 3: get the double wall ones, then you can't heat them

943
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: over the fire because they're you know, vacuum insulated or whatever.

944
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: But then other people I know are like, well they

945
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 3: want the ability to have like and they're insulated deep bottles. Sure, yeah,

946
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: you know you do you so, I will also say

947
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: battery packs for phones is a big one. Again, you're

948
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: less likely to need to hunt squirrels with axes, and

949
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: you're more likely need to keep your phone charged and

950
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: other people's phones charged.

951
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: One of those little hydra charging cables, which you know

952
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: breaks one.

953
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

954
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: get get.

955
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: One of those, Get a little war water and keep

956
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: it in there, so you can turn a wall socket

957
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: into a USB socket if you need that to charge

958
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: your stuff. Another thing that is surprisingly handy and lots

959
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: of situations is I like to run a lot, and

960
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 2: sometimes you're doing ultramarathon. When you get to the aid station,

961
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: they just have like big things of water, right, and

962
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: you fill up your little water bottles. You're carrying your vest,

963
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: and lots of people have these tiny collapsible cups that

964
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: are made of like a thin rubber. They're made of

965
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: the stuff that camelback gladders are made of. And then

966
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: they can fill up that cup and they can drink

967
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: from it, and they just keep it attached to their vest, right,

968
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: and then off they go running along. Oh interesting, These

969
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: are very useful and I've started incorporating them and lots

970
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: of my travel and like, yeah, emergency supplies because if

971
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: you're in a place where people don't have cups, right

972
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: that they have big things of water. Now you have

973
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: a vessel from which to drink. So those are surprisingly handy.

974
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I also keep one of those. I don't know

975
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: if it's the same one you're talking about it, but

976
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: it like collapses up almost like forty and stuff.

977
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like the camping ones, but it's

978
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: way lighter than those.

979
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: Ah Okay, I have the camping style one and I

980
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: keep it in there as a like emergency dog ball.

981
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 3: Yes I know.

982
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are great for that too, and you can

983
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 2: drink hot things out of them, which is nice.

984
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. And another thing that I keep in my go

985
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: bag is I keep the meds that my dog is on,

986
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: and I keep some of the meds that I take

987
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 3: in there. And you know, it's like, my dog only

988
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: gets the meds once a month, So I go to

989
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: my bag and I pull out the meds and I

990
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: give them to my dog from my bag, because why not.

991
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: And if you have, you know, other people, whether they're

992
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: not fully grown yet or are that you also take

993
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: care of, you know, you need to make sure you

994
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: have a little bit of their stuff in there, Like

995
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: like you keep a dog toy in your go bag. Yeah.

996
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have a child, keep a child toy.

997
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: If you need to keep medicines cold, there's a product

998
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: called freeo Fio. They're not paying me. I've never got

999
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: one for free. But you dip it in water and

1000
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: it uses the evaporative cooling to keep your insulin cold.

1001
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: I have used them. Oh, they are very handy, they

1002
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: don't rely on electric. It's very nice. So yeah, if

1003
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: that's something that you need, then then then that is

1004
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: hopefully something useful to you. My last thing would be

1005
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: a little torch, a little pocket flashlight, or even better

1006
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 2: a headlamp like a head torch, because lots of places

1007
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: in La lost power, right, and if you're having to

1008
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: go places at night, it's much easier if you can

1009
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: see where you're going. Yeah, they're not expensive, they're great gifts.

1010
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: Bring a few, give them to friends, make new friends.

1011
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 2: Hopefully this has repared you. The last thing, of course,

1012
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: Margaret is a gold bullion with Ronald Reagan's face on it.

1013
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot to mention that, Yeah, you need to trade.

1014
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: Rather than having a system of mutual aid, which we

1015
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: naturally do, instead, we should interject a complicated barter system,

1016
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 3: ideally on the gold standard, in which shiny.

1017
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: Metal replaces our naturally instinct to help one another. Yeah exactly, Yeah,

1018
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: that's how it's been. That's that's humans, famously not a species.

1019
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: Just bring a copy of Debt by David Graeber in

1020
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 3: your Yeah.

1021
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, bring at the shrugs and then as you pass

1022
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: the just start ripping that ship off, throwing it in there,

1023
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: let it burn.

1024
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: Having a paperback book if you like that. It's not

1025
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 3: weight efficient, but you know what, like.

1026
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: That's how Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bring the Dawn of Everything

1027
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: by David Graeber. That'll let'll occupy you through most natural disasters.

1028
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: It's a it's a thick book. It is if you

1029
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: can't reach something very handy.

1030
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: Stand on that.

1031
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: He really thought he did us one final solid rap

1032
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: David Graeber.

1033
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and on rip to David wengro Is love.

1034
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, shout out to David. Wegrow the other

1035
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: David than the less venerated David who also wrote that book.

1036
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: I always feel bad when I just talk about Gramer

1037
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: stuff and they talk about Thought of Everything, and then

1038
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: I don't talk about the other David. Yeah.

1039
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll just say the David's and then people will

1040
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: look at me and yeah, totally the level. But I know, yeah,

1041
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: yeah big to Margaret, I can say that David's. She

1042
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: knows which David's. I mean, that's why we're friends.

1043
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well anyway, yeah, it's gonna be okay or it's not.

1044
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: But you know what you weren't going to survive being

1045
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: alive anyway. And keep your car half full of gas,

1046
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 3: like when you're on your way home, and make sure

1047
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: that you fill up if it's less than halfway full.

1048
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: Plug your electric car in. Don't skip plugging your little

1049
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: electric car in at night. Yeah, because the night that

1050
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: you do is you know that you need it. So

1051
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: do the little things take care of one another.

1052
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could.

1053
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,040
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