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Speaker 1: Ladies and jumbles.

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Speaker 2: You want experience during your football season, We'll buckle.

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Speaker 3: Up, sweet cheeks.

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Speaker 2: What's all, We've got all the experience in the world.

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Speaker 2: This is I want your Flex with Dan Bayer and

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down everything you need

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Speaker 2: The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now

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Speaker 2: let's get your flex Onde. Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon,

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Speaker 2: and then there were two. It is I want your flex.

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Speaker 4: So it's the chiefs of the Niners guys in Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl fifty eight. They're paths to get there quite different

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Speaker 4: considering what we saw on Sunday from Kansas City jumping

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Speaker 4: out to their lead and then holding on against Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: But we start in the NFC and Mike start with you.

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Speaker 4: The forty nine Ers rally from that twenty four to

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Speaker 4: seven deficit to the Lions ended up taking them about

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Speaker 4: a quarter or so to pull even and then and

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Speaker 4: then pull ahead. Let's start it with that NFC matchup

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Speaker 4: in now San Francisco gets to the championship game?

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Speaker 5: Is it all? Dan Campbell? Where do you stand? And

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Speaker 5: how the Lions failed and the Niners moved on.

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Speaker 6: I can't put a lot of blame on I don't

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Speaker 6: put nearly as much blame on Campbell as everybody else

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Speaker 6: Smith that I argued about it all night. I know

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Speaker 6: we've had other folks on the Fox Sports radio network

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Speaker 6: calling for him to be fired as a preemptive strike.

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Speaker 6: I mean, hot take, nonsense, reigned supreme. But you know,

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Speaker 6: in the end, true.

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Speaker 5: To who he was.

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Speaker 3: Everybody that's citing me.

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Speaker 6: Hey kicked the field goal before on a fourth down

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Speaker 6: there were ten seconds left in the first half.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not.

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Speaker 6: A normal down distance. What happens from here going forward?

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Speaker 6: So using that as an example of him going against

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Speaker 6: his normal self is asinine to me in a million ways.

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Speaker 6: I think I got Smith mad at me and to

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Speaker 6: where he told me to shut up at one point,

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Speaker 6: which was great, But then you get to the second half,

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Speaker 6: Like they called the perfect play on that fourth down play, right,

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Speaker 6: they give up a field goal. Fine, little bit of

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Speaker 6: whatever anxiousness, momentum, whatever. But you call a perfect play

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Speaker 6: and it hits rentals. Is it one hundred percent of

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Speaker 6: perfect pass from golf?

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Speaker 3: No it's not. But you're a professional damn receiver. Catch

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Speaker 3: the ball. That's a first down.

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Speaker 6: That's either another four minutes off the clock or perhaps

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Speaker 6: another explosive play that gets you to the end zone.

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Speaker 3: All of that render move.

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Speaker 6: But now Dan Campbell's the bad guy because that guy

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Speaker 6: can't catch a football and then the defense gives up

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Speaker 6: a touchdown on the ensuing drive. That's his fault on

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Speaker 6: a fifty one yard ball that should have been picked

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Speaker 6: off instead it bounces up by the football gods for

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Speaker 6: a fifty one yard reception. I can't Dan Campbell wore

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Speaker 6: a lot that I don't think he should have out

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Speaker 6: of this.

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Speaker 4: I think Dan Campbell's wearing a lot of it on himself,

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Speaker 4: like in the postgame press conference, because of kind of

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Speaker 4: what you're saying, Mike.

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Speaker 5: I think that.

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Speaker 4: Jamiir Gibbs fumble was that's the that's the roof, you know,

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Speaker 4: falling in on a house fire. Like that's like, oh okay,

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Speaker 4: this is not going to be salvagable. This is going

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Speaker 4: That was the toughest one of them all, not that

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Speaker 4: there weren't other tough ones, but I thought, wow, that one.

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Speaker 4: I mean, even on that Iyuke, there was going to

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Speaker 4: be a flag on the play. Maybe they're not as

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Speaker 4: by fourteen at that point, And yeah, I agree on

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Speaker 4: goal then or end up scoring that touchdown. Now San

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Speaker 4: to play absolutely perfect football. And the conundrum that I

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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers were not going to be pinned deep.

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Speaker 4: That's the reason that one of the main reasons as

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Speaker 4: well that you go for it instead of maybe kicking

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Speaker 4: up inside the ten yard line, inside the five yard line.

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Speaker 4: But the two that they had on the second half,

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Speaker 4: I would have gone for the first one, which they

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Speaker 5: I would have kicked the second one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was confused a little on the second one.

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Speaker 6: But again it goes back to, all right, Michael Badgeley's

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Speaker 6: the Yeah, if you don't trust him, you shouldn't have

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 6: Forty seven is not a gimme no for most kickers,

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Speaker 6: do I necessarily think he's hammering it home. But it's

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Speaker 6: they obviously are calling for it, and as like, you know,

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Speaker 6: well they called that play, so they're going for it,

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Speaker 6: so just wait and then they run the play. But

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Speaker 6: the second time, yeah, fifty to fifty, like all right,

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Speaker 6: but it's a long field goal, so maybe he's still

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Speaker 6: old wonder boy over here are oc who's interviewing with everybody.

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Speaker 6: He's going to have a play that's going to get us, right,

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Speaker 6: And then timing disrupted, et cetera. I mean, Saint Brown

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Speaker 6: As so many have argued, I can't think about it

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Speaker 6: to play four quarters of football.

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Speaker 1: I think the worst call actually was it was not

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Speaker 1: the fourth downs. I think it was the third and goal.

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Speaker 3: The final lantage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to run it up the gut on third

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Speaker 1: That cost them forty seconds on the Niners. You know,

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Speaker 1: keep that time out, and they conceivably have like forty

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was really the most egregious error.

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Speaker 1: But overall I agree completely with Harmon. I think ultimately

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Speaker 4: But here's also why that that third down run was

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Speaker 5: Was they didn't need the touchdown. Yeah, that you could

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Speaker 4: In that scenario where you're then within seven and you

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Speaker 4: still need the on side kick or you need that stop.

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Speaker 4: Now granted on the next drive you need the touchdown,

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Speaker 4: but it wasn't end all be all, in like we

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Speaker 4: where you were, you still could have ended up kicking

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Speaker 4: If it was an incomplete situation like that would have been,

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Speaker 6: Didn't well, that's just it. You're managing to both of

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Speaker 6: credit to the forty nine ers. We played the George

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Speaker 6: It's like I can't wait to say I told you so,

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Speaker 6: you know, after the game and all. And then they

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Speaker 6: some of the game planning. Right, you go away from

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Speaker 6: the run game in long stretches, which makes no sense.

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Speaker 6: Not as bad as Baltimore, but we'll chronicle that in

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Speaker 6: a minute. But it's the you know, the the idea

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Speaker 6: And you know, for Brock Purdy, was he perfect? No,

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Speaker 6: But again you don't have to be. You make a

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Speaker 6: of big scrambles, including one where Branch looked like he

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Speaker 6: tried to go take out his leg with a WWE

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Speaker 6: and McCaffrey, I mean they went and took it right.

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Speaker 6: You left the money on the table and they just

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Speaker 6: said thanks for the tip.

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Speaker 4: By the way, we didn't talk about them failing to

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Speaker 4: down the punt at the.

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Speaker 3: No, that's right too. Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 6: I had that in my notes I got I was

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Speaker 6: taking notes play by play, and I have all these

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Speaker 4: Like that that is that is atrocious And that's where

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Speaker 4: the point of when we talk about this kicking of

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Speaker 3: How about that could be?

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Speaker 5: Could be that scenario. Uh, and then the forty nine

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Speaker 6: Yeah, George Middle's a little bit older. Maybe he slides

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Speaker 4: It is amazing to me on how much Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 4: I think is just the more consistent option. I think,

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about it next here on I want your flex.

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Speaker 4: It's the Kansas City Chiefs going to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: In just a tough, tough day. Lamar in company in.

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Speaker 6: We'll remind Dan a little bit later on. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: painful to watch on that side. But you know, for

437
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 6: the Chiefs, while it wasn't pretty, you know, in the

438
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 6: yard for play or any of those metrics, it's moved

439
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Speaker 6: the chain, survive another down right, mahomes. A lot of

440
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 6: those passes.

441
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Speaker 3: Were what three yards? Four yards?

442
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Speaker 6: And for whatever reason, Travis Kelsey keeps finding spaces like

443
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Speaker 6: no other. I guess it goes back to what we

444
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 6: used to see with Gronkowski. It's like, how's nobody on

445
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 6: this guy. He's the only he's the apple of his eye,

446
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 6: Like he's the only guy. He's looking at here time

447
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 6: and time again, and just you know that to say,

448
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 6: Kelsey also made a couple of just ridiculous catches right

449
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 6: the touchdown grab, you know with Hamilton on him, great throw,

450
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 6: great catch, everything had to work right there. Another one

451
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 6: down the middle where he had a big diving catch,

452
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 6: so he laid it all out and he you know,

453
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 6: he's just a different animal in the playoffs. Like there's

454
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Speaker 6: just no question with all of those records, he's passing

455
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 6: Jerry Rice and all these guys. But for Mahomes didn't

456
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 6: need to be spectacular. They just need to be good enough.

457
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 6: And that defense that carried him all year took care

458
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 6: of business once again, you know, just for the Raven

459
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Speaker 6: side of it, Like the road back is difficult. But

460
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 6: watching this game, like everything and every question everybody had

461
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 6: had and had been berated for, well you kind of

462
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 6: got to answer in the affirmatives like, well you saw

463
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 6: what we'd been talking about. It showed itself once again.

464
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Speaker 4: It was it was odd to me that people were

465
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Speaker 4: taking a victory lap for the Ravens with the win

466
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 4: against the Texans because of well because they hadn't gone

467
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 4: to an AFC championship game. Yeah, but like that's that

468
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 4: wasn't the goal, and like this is a This is

469
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Speaker 4: a team that you're playing that was not expected to

470
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Speaker 4: be where they were. Now, granted they looked great the

471
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 4: week before against the Browns, but rookie quarterback coming in

472
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Speaker 4: like that's a game that you should dominate. They didn't,

473
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Speaker 4: in my mind, accomplish anything in proving people wrong or

474
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Speaker 4: their doubters wrong. And I think that some people felt

475
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 4: that they did that. Just Lamar getting to that next

476
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Speaker 4: step was proving everybody wrong.

477
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 5: And then now you get to this stage and you

478
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Speaker 5: have the game.

479
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Speaker 4: That you have, it was, yeah, now you're got to

480
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 4: do a one to eighty because again, yeah, he didn't

481
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 4: prove it. And you know what concerns me, And I

482
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 4: saw this on social media. This was not an original

483
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: thought of mine, but I did think it was interesting

484
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 4: that twenty one yard run that he had on that

485
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Speaker 4: that fourth and short. I understand that the conditions weren't ideal,

486
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 4: but it also brings up the point that there is

487
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Speaker 4: going to be a point where he does slow down

488
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Speaker 4: if he's not already.

489
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Speaker 5: You know.

490
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Speaker 4: And and now Odell Beckham Junior is like calling like

491
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 4: he's lifting up his arm like you have two bad knees?

492
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: Who are you burning past on the sideline, you know,

493
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 4: like it just it was all an absolute mess. And

494
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Speaker 4: now and you think of, okay, if Lamar is maybe

495
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 4: losing a little bit of that, that speed brings everything

496
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: back to, you know, to the base, and Dan Campbell says,

497
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 4: who knows that they're ever going to make it back there.

498
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 4: I think it's the same thing with the Baltimore Ravens

499
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Speaker 4: because I just I'm not sure on if you could

500
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 4: have had had a better situation. I'm sure you guys

501
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 4: talked about it, Mike and Bursch. I know you've heard

502
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 4: it on the network as well, but man, there just

503
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: didn't seem to be a lot there for that team

504
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 4: when it counted.

505
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt like throughout that entire game that pocket

506
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: was collapsing around Lamar and he would he would shake

507
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: off defenders like crazy, but then he would still try

508
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: to throw it. And and you know, this is a

509
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: completely subjective. I could be wrong about this, but it

510
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: feels like he would he would at least try to

511
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: run more often in the past when that would happen,

512
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: it felt like he was actively not trying to do

513
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: that and instead trying to work the passing game, which

514
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: sometimes it worked a couple times it worked, but for

515
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: the most part he still ended up with only eight

516
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: carries and it seemed like he could have ran on

517
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: half of the plays. So it was really it was

518
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: really bizarre. And of course we talked about the game

519
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: plan the you know, Gus Edwards and Justice Hill six carries.

520
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: Justice Hill had seven targets. It's just so bizarre now.

521
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 6: That little half ass arm swing out pass. A couple

522
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 6: of times he didn't step into it at all. Yeah,

523
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 6: so the ball falls hardly, like if you actually get

524
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 6: it out to Hill, he might have been able to

525
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 6: do something with it.

526
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, if you're gonna.

527
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 6: Set up the flanker screen, how about you make sure

528
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 6: the ball actually gets to the guy. Yeah, instead of

529
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 6: diving back hoping that it's not a backwards pass and stuff.

530
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, But to your point, Dan and Jason was saying

531
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Speaker 1: this with Mike earlier, is it's hard to see the

532
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: Ravens getting back to this point now. It feels like

533
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: they this was their best opportunity and everything, especially with

534
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: the rest of the AFC because a lot of teams

535
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: were down in the AFC this season, it feels like, yeah,

536
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: they missed their best shot.

537
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Speaker 4: It was it was shocking considering I know, Kansas City

538
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 4: dominated the first forty minutes they did, They had the

539
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: ball for about thirty minutes.

540
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 5: The Ravens had it for about ten. But still you're

541
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Speaker 5: talking about a ten point ball game.

542
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 4: The thing that you need to come back and and

543
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: do what you did and then allow guys like Chris

544
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: Jones to do what he does. It's just it doesn't

545
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: it doesn't make a lot of sense. And you know,

546
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: fantasy Fantasy wise, Mark Andrews pretty much a non factor, right,

547
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 4: you know.

548
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 5: Just the two catches that he had.

549
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 4: There's just there's not a lot of positivity on the

550
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: Ravens side of thing, the raven side of things, the

551
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: chief side of thing. But Checko gets to the end

552
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 4: zone again, that seems like a thing. Travis Kelcey playing

553
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 4: his best football of the season, and Raschi Rice not

554
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: a huge game, but in a game where you are

555
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: very you are trying to hold onto the football, to

556
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 4: have eight catches on nine targets tells you the value

557
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 4: that he has to that team.

558
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Speaker 5: And I expect for she Rice to have a pretty

559
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 5: good Super Bowl fifty eight.

560
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look at his season overall. I think

561
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Speaker 6: it kind of got dismissed a little bit. Nearly one

562
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 6: thousand receiving yards, seventy nine catches, all of that stuff.

563
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 6: We had the interesting thought piece Bucky Brooks and I

564
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 6: on the Fox Football Sunday Show because I'd heard him

565
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 6: reference it with with Andy Furman as I was driving in,

566
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 6: and I'm like, all right, so let's carry forward. You're, hey,

567
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 6: there's the captains. Who are you drafting out of the

568
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 6: receiving corps in your sand lot football game? And like,

569
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 6: I'm taking Kelsey and Rice before I'm even looking at

570
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 6: the Ravens sideline. And I love Zay Flowers a ton,

571
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 6: but I mean, Rice, I don't think he got nearly

572
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 6: the love that he should have for the season he

573
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 6: ended up having.

574
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Speaker 5: Should I had a touchdown in the AFC Championship game

575
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 5: called back in the penalty that really didn't have much

576
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: of an effect on the play whatsoever.

577
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 6: Now still neck tackle, But I mean because we saw

578
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 6: a lot of craziness like that nance with the line

579
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 6: of the weekend with the Hey, I haven't seen that

580
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 6: move since the longest yard, But.

581
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Speaker 4: On a screen when you're trying to let guys through

582
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 4: or at least give them a little bit of a

583
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 4: you know, just a little resistance. It wasn't you know,

584
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 4: a scenario where you're truly pass blocking, you know, that

585
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 4: was needed on that play.

586
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: There you go.

587
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 6: See, I mean we can go deep dive into other

588
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 6: officiating fun. It wasn't as egregious this year this weekend.

589
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 6: So I'm glad folks have saved their vitriol for political

590
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 6: plant Taylor Swift or whatever else they're doing. But the

591
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 6: Ravens side just to go back to that one last time.

592
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 6: Like I actually even asked Locking for right, he's out

593
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 6: there does radio work in Baltimore and writes for the

594
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 6: Washington Post all that stuff, long time, and he's been

595
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 6: with us wherever I go.

596
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 3: You know, Mike Tomalin wore it a lot there in

597
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: the ear.

598
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 6: Does John Harbaugh get anything out there after this, because

599
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 6: you're in the same place that you've been and the

600
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 6: road is going to be that much harder again, all

601
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 6: those MC teams rising. And he just responded with, yeah,

602
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 6: I don't think Bashati really cares.

603
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: They're good enough. The money prints itself, move on.

604
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 6: It's like, well, that's just hard. That's hard for me

605
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 6: to stomach. Like and I watched the Bears and they're ineptitude.

606
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 6: They're at least trying to shake it up every couple

607
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 6: of years and do something a little bit different.

608
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: But like for Harball, like if we're gonna do.

609
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 6: This, is that good enough? Like I don't know, I

610
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 6: don't know what that feels like, so I can't say it.

611
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 6: But like, if I'm good enough to get to the

612
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 6: playoffs every year, and then that's the effort I get.

613
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 6: My assistant coaches are out interviewing for other jobs, and

614
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 6: this is what we put up in the AFC title game.

615
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: I got some questions.

616
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're gonna have to likely find a new

617
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator you come next year.

618
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 5: So so if some of these.

619
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Speaker 4: Problems still persist, then you kind of maybe know where

620
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 4: the problem lies. But to your point, yeah, he's he's

621
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: he's good to go. It would be a couple more

622
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: years before I think that they feel that a need

623
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: at a change would need to be made.

624
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Speaker 5: It is amazing to me that Aaron Glenn is interviewing

625
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 5: for jobs after what happened to that line. No, but

626
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: that's just it.

627
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: He got off Scott Free too.

628
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Speaker 6: I didn't let that happen, yelling with Smith like he

629
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 6: wanted to do to the Campbell think. I'm like, how

630
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 6: about the defensive guy that for a half had everything

631
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 6: figured out and then suddenly because what you didn't get

632
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 6: a fourth down saying a you can go take seventy

633
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 6: two yards on us, that's mine.

634
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: Sure, you can go drive another seventy yards on us,

635
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: that's mine. Like, what the hell happened there?

636
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot that happens, you know, in

637
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers. Not that you know Steve Wilkes

638
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 5: has been successful in the National Football League, but you

639
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 5: replaced Amiko Ryans, who replaced Robert Sala. Those guys go

640
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: off to head coaching.

641
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: Gigs and Wilkes comes in and now you're having some questions.

642
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: And now there's the Chase Young deal. Seems pretty awful

643
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: with the bad clip.

644
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 5: That he had yesterday.

645
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just you know, this interesting just on how

646
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 4: the assistant's going. First great as the Lions offense did.

647
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: Look you also again now for the second straight week,

648
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: have some timing issues at the end. And you're not

649
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: that that's going to prevent Ben Johnson from getting a job.

650
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 5: That's not what I'm saying at all. But it was

651
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: just a tougher week I think for some of those

652
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 5: assistants that were interviewing jobs, then maybe on the surface,

653
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Speaker 5: I mean, the Ravens defense of the second half was

654
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 5: great against Patrick Mahomes, but I don't know how much

655
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: the Chiefs were really pushing things. I think they actually

656
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Speaker 5: felt pretty safe in their ten point lead and just

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Speaker 5: weren't going to do anything stupid.

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Speaker 6: So grinding out the clock and move on in advance.

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Speaker 6: So you know, before we end, I mean, you said

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Speaker 6: you had a super Bowl story.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was just in the super Bowl prediction story.

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Speaker 4: I think think we all do. We all go through

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Speaker 4: scenarios and as it ends up. I think I had

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Speaker 4: about three or four matchups that I was going to

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Speaker 4: pick for my Super Bowl, and then now that we

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Speaker 4: have our Super Bowl, I think I would have gotten

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Speaker 4: one team right like, And that's just like how bad

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Speaker 4: we are on this in terms of I had a

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Speaker 4: Bengals forty nine ers, So I did have the forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers making the Super Bowl, which isn't by the way,

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Speaker 4: going out on a limb, and it's just as much

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Speaker 4: chalk as you could have for anything else. But in

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Speaker 4: just in terms of of even of the game of

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Speaker 4: the four teams that played. I think I probably would

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Speaker 4: have only had one team or so. I think that

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Speaker 4: maybe Kansas City was going to take a step back,

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Speaker 4: and I didn't think they'd be able to repeat and

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Speaker 4: do what they did. So just completely awful and making

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl predictions. Even if I had multiple decisions and

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Speaker 4: I landed on the one where the team did make it,

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Speaker 4: my three or four other ones would have just been

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Speaker 4: completely off base and wouldn't even have made it to

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Speaker 4: Championship weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I went completely off the grid.

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Speaker 6: I just said, I'm taking chalk off the board because

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Speaker 6: last year, when everybody jumped off the Chiefs post Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 6: I stayed with him and said, no, this is this

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Speaker 6: is the path. So I took my victory lap, not

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Speaker 6: really you know, a big white What was it six

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Speaker 6: to one? If you'd bet it same thing this year,

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Speaker 6: It's like, all right, would I be surprised if they

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Speaker 6: ran back? It might be ugly. And that's before the

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Speaker 6: season played out, and then watching it mid season, I

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Speaker 6: would have taken a dime on the dollar for anything

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Speaker 6: I'd bet the way that offense was rolling in the

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Speaker 6: middle of the year, and San fran I just took

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Speaker 6: him off the grid. Just saying, all right, that's the

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Speaker 6: presumptive they're going to be at least in the mix,

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Speaker 6: So let's go find another darling. And that's how I

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Speaker 6: got to my ions. Jaguars really just trying to unearth

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Speaker 6: some gold. And both of them failed me on so

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Speaker 6: many lives. But they failed spectacularly, guys, so they gave

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Speaker 6: us content for days. Right, So in the end, you know,

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Speaker 6: like if they were just you know, nine and eight eight,

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Speaker 6: and I was like, no, Instead, they both sucked. The

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Speaker 6: Giants blew up quickly, and then the Jaguars they were

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Speaker 6: only rivaled by the Eagles as to how quickly they

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Speaker 6: descended in Now.

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Speaker 4: I think I told the story. I think I like

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Speaker 4: the Giants were going to be one of my picks

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Speaker 4: for the Super Bowl. And then we did the pod

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Speaker 4: here and Mike you went first, and you said giants,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh crap, well, I can't pick the

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Speaker 4: Giants now that Mike did so then.

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Speaker 5: So I pivot, pivot and went and went elsewhere. So yeah, man.

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Speaker 3: Well I saved you from looking like an idiot.

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Speaker 1: If we want to talk about failing spectacularly with our

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Speaker 1: preseason picks, I mine also did that. But in very

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Speaker 1: different ways. My my preseason pick, according to the chart

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Speaker 1: that we have in the student, it was a Chargers

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Speaker 1: Cowboys super Bowl, and the Chargers just completely failed, and

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Speaker 1: then the Cowboys got to the playoffs and then completely failed.

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Speaker 1: I had justin Herbert winning the MVP. But my out

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Speaker 1: on a limb, I think I get credit because my

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Speaker 1: out on a limb was Jordan loved good. Packers win

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Speaker 1: ten games, and they technically did win exactly ten games

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Speaker 1: because they won their playoff games.

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Speaker 3: Technically, say, man, take every victory lap you can, and.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna throw preseason affairs into this. Now you know first.

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Speaker 3: Well, he would have been in uniform for one of them.

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Speaker 4: I will say I was down to for the NFC South.

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Speaker 4: My pick was Falcons win the NFC South, but I

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Speaker 4: didn't know if I was going to pick the Falcons

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Speaker 4: or Panthers. Good thing I picked the Falcons even if

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Speaker 4: they didn't win, because you couldn't have been more wrong

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Speaker 4: at picking Carolina. Oh man, we're looking for better things

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Speaker 4: than twenty twenty four team wise.

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Speaker 5: All right, So that's gonna to do it for the pod.

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Speaker 5: Hit Ryan Berschinger up at Ryan Berschinger, you can find

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Speaker 5: Mike Etzwollen Dome.

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Speaker 4: And hit me up at Dan Byer on Fox. Next week,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have some fun. We're gonna look ahead to

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty four offseason and also give you our

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Speaker 4: thoughts on how Super Bowl fifty eight is gonna play

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Speaker 4: out in Las Vegas. And then in a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 4: we will do our top sixty hour draft to preview

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty four fantasy season. You know we're gonna

748
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Speaker 4: do a draft sixty picks who you like and not

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Speaker 4: really who you don't like, because we won't be picking

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Speaker 4: players we don't like, but we'll get you set for

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Speaker 4: next season that way. So for Mike Carmon and Ryan Berschinger,

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Speaker 4: I'm Dan Beyer. We will talk to you next week

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Speaker 4: right here on I Walker Flex