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Speaker 1: It's like, no, I think I still find those places

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like, I can't these are stores taking

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Speaker 2: My favorite part about Target is I would go, I

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Speaker 1: Thank God, thank god that we have.

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Speaker 4: Anytime you guys need to rent a movie, you can come.

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Speaker 3: Both named Susie.

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Speaker 1: It's so weird to go back. Hey, hello, welcome.

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Speaker 7: Yes, let me tell you something, mister Strong. It's about

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Speaker 7: It's about time got hip and got with your friends

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Heard it, and I've heard it too, I've never actually

439
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 5: seen it.

440
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe we need proof.

441
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 6: If you have a proof of her denying being on

442
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 6: Boy Meets World, please send it to us.

443
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Speaker 1: I'd love that.

444
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 4: Actually, it is a good story.

445
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 5: It's one step away from one of you, like we'll going.

446
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 5: I never did that show. I didn't. It was just

447
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 5: it was bizarre and the beauty what I think again

448
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 5: of that episode is part of our success and part

449
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 5: of why you guys are here, you know, thirty plus

450
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 5: years later and there's an audience loyal both new and old,

451
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 5: is because of the wide range of stories in episodes.

452
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, well it's so interesting to go back

453
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: to this one. You know now that we're like deep

454
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 3: in season well now we're not deep, like just started

455
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: season six, but like, uh, how much how many other

456
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: characters there are, like just the sheer amount of guest

457
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: stars and like storylines that have nothing to do with

458
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: Eric or Sean or Corey, even like Corey has like

459
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 3: his storyline, but his storyline involves so many other people.

460
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 3: It's like it's just not it's not something that we

461
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 3: did after season four really like basically season two and

462
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: three were we were still experimenting and handing off stuff.

463
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: And part of it has to do, I think with

464
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: the fact that we are in school so much like

465
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: you keep. You know, it's like the fact that, like

466
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: Ben and like Corey and Sean, even though we're like

467
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: the drivers of a sort, we actually have a small part.

468
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: There's still so many other actors taking over scenes and characters,

469
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 3: and it's like, right that part partly must have been

470
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: because they were over eighteen and you had.

471
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Speaker 5: More honestly, writer, yes, sometimes we would go, let's give

472
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 5: you know, David Combs or Wesley or whoever is time

473
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 5: like yeah, but more than that, and again there was

474
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 5: really a lot of Howard and I. We just thought,

475
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 5: like the Bed and Breakfast, like bringing these crazy people

476
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 5: and just it just we were a cout show. We

477
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 5: were not like Girl Meets World, which is a Disney

478
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 5: geared towards kids show. We were a family count show, right,

479
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 5: and so we wanted also to you know, make sure

480
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 5: the parents were enjoying the show. And that's why sometimes

481
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 5: we bring in these characters. But you know, in an

482
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 5: episode like that, there were still organic moments to who

483
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 5: everybody was. Will you as Eric were a loyal brother, sure,

484
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 5: and even when you just walked in because somebody sold

485
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 5: the ticket to see an idiot get beat.

486
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: Up, it's still discovered.

487
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 5: It was your brother you hop in the ring to

488
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 5: take on this behemoth. Yeah, you in that particular episode Rider,

489
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 5: strictly it was, you know, some comic relief. My favorite moment,

490
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 5: of course, is starting the match, ringing the bell, going

491
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 5: what does this?

492
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: What does this do?

493
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

494
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: That's great.

495
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: The thing I'm noticing more than ever now that we're,

496
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: like Wriders said, we just started season six and now

497
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: we're doing these throwback go backs.

498
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: What's the rhyme.

499
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: We're using behind rewind?

500
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: Thank you? Behind rewind episodes?

501
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 5: Shout out Blockbuster, they're out of business.

502
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: The first four seasons of Boy Mets World was four

503
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: different sitcoms. Yeah, I mean season one and season two

504
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: are two different sitcoms with the same cast. And so

505
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: the more I'm watching them now and then going back,

506
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: it's jarring to see how different.

507
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: Like you watch season two of Friends and season six

508
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: of Friends, they're kind of the same.

509
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: It's there.

510
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: The characters are similar.

511
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: They've grown a bit, maybe summer dating where others aren't,

512
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: but they're kind of the same. Show you go back

513
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: and you watch season one A Boy Mets World in

514
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: season five A Boy Mets World, it's two different shows.

515
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, now, yes, And then you had the middle Howard

516
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 5: and I came on season two. We left in the

517
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: middle of season five.

518
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, So.

519
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 5: And there's a sensibility difference between Michael and us. Again,

520
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 5: Michael's a genius. He's brilliant at what he does. And

521
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 5: I learned a great deal. I'm I give Michael a

522
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 5: lot of credit and interviews. I'm as good as I

523
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 5: am working with young cast members on set with notes

524
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 5: because I watched him. Sure, I didn't yell, you know,

525
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 5: and I didn't become comfortable like I my style is

526
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 5: still my style. But I listened to him. He was

527
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 5: very good at getting wonderful performance in a very you know,

528
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 5: Michael came from theater and you know, studied theater he

529
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 5: loves and that's how he approached it. And so I

530
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 5: did learn a lot from from him. But yeah, it

531
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 5: was a different show in the middle. The one I

532
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 5: get the most, you know, constantly, is what happened to

533
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: Derek Eric.

534
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get that a lot like Eric is different

535
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: than he was.

536
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 5: Partly Wilfredell's fault.

537
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's true, and I'll tell you why.

538
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 5: Because you were a freaking comedically yeah, you were a

539
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 5: young Jim Carrey. I was the first to say it.

540
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 5: I said it one day. I don't remember the episode,

541
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 5: but after a run through, I said, this guy's a

542
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 5: young Jim Carrey. So we kept going. But the only

543
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: thing we made sure to justify your character is nobody

544
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 5: on the show had a bigger heart.

545
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Eric, that was always the same.

546
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 5: And we'd throw you in with Tommy, and we'd throw

547
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 5: you in with Bill in a scene, and and you

548
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 5: know you that's how we balanced it while we pushed

549
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 5: the envelope and you know yeah, I mean you know

550
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 5: you were investing in memorabilia played by Jeff Manel baggy

551
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 5: Bagwell of a guy who got hit in the head

552
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 5: by a pitch bagwell.

553
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: That see, like, for me going back watching this episode again,

554
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: it's it like, I know, first season and second season

555
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: are very different, but Corey's actually kind of the same

556
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: character as he was in the first season here in

557
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: a way that now Corey is not I don't know,

558
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: like this Cory who's sitting there going, you know, the

559
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: jocks and how do I get, you know, he's sort

560
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: of like this this Wise, like cracking wise, average guy

561
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: who just wants to be noticed and like stand out

562
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: for some reason. Get girls like that. By season the

563
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: end of season five, that Corey is so far gone

564
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: and like I miss him.

565
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 5: Watching again, I was like, let's be clear, which Cory

566
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: do you miss?

567
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: I miss the Wise cracking, like yeah, the Dennis the Menace,

568
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: sort of like I don't know what life is all about,

569
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna. I know what I like and I

570
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: don't know where I fit in.

571
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 5: Like that was universal. John Hughes Storytellers totally, totally, totally. Again,

572
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it because we left. He was an

573
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 5: angry dude in the Yes, that's the things a lot

574
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 5: of those episodes, and I there are episodes I've never seen,

575
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 5: and I get on the writing side, and David Kendall

576
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: says it all the time, there was no writer more

577
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 5: Boy Meets World than Bluntman. I lived and read that show.

578
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 5: I love that show. There are episodes I have not watched.

579
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 5: And again I'm not being it's very easy all these

580
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 5: years later to go I would have I'm not saying

581
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: I would have done better I'm saying I maybe would

582
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 5: have done different because the Corey I would see, like

583
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 5: you said, writer, he was just an angry guy, and

584
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 5: that was the guy that Tapanga wanted to, you know,

585
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 5: spend her life with, was a little I hope it's

586
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 5: okay that I'm saying this.

587
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: We've talked about the red flags. We've talked about the

588
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: red flags.

589
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think that it's it's it's there's

590
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: so much comedy that came out of Corey being sort

591
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: of neurotic and like anxious, and that ends up being

592
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: the source of a lot of his humor. And then

593
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: a lot of the drama comes from his his understanding

594
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: of the universe and his understanding of reality, and he

595
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: and to Panga and the struggles of that which becomes

596
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: kind of angry, whereas like back here, he has no

597
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: clue what's going on. And I feel like Corey from

598
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: week to week could find himself listening to Sean, listening

599
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: to Eric, listening to mister Feenie, listening to mister Turner,

600
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: and each one is going to spin him in a

601
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: completely different direction. And that is like way, It's just

602
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: more open, and it's kind of more fun. And I

603
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: miss that. Yeah, I miss that. Corey.

604
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 5: You know, you were the ultimate. You were the audience

605
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 5: surrogate in so many ways, the Sewan character. I mean,

606
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 5: you were the audience's window into this young innocent trying

607
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 5: his way. And then of course you had plenty of

608
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 5: moments where you were finding your way. But you again

609
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 5: street smart, you know. However you grew up. You were

610
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 5: a lot further advanced than Corey until you weren't right right,

611
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 5: But you know again, one of the cool things about

612
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 5: the Thriller in Phila, of course, named after the Thriller

613
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 5: in Manila in the seventies Muhammad Ali Joe Frazier. It

614
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 5: still talked about to this day so frequently, and when

615
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 5: I am backstage at a wrestling show, a young thirty

616
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: year old wrestler will say, oh, my favorite episode had

617
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 5: Vader on and all that, and when they you know,

618
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 5: he had passed away, but they inducted him into the

619
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 5: WWE Hall of Fame, and one of the clips was

620
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 5: from our show really that they showed in front of

621
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 5: thousands of people and on TV they you know, Invader's

622
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 5: induction of all his highlights there he has beaten Rick

623
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: Flair and fighting Hul Cogan and all these matches, and

624
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 5: there's the clip of him, you know, with all of

625
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: you guys. And you know, one of the things, I

626
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 5: don't know if you're going to ask me this, Danielle,

627
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 5: I know you you talk question about my single favorite

628
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: moment in that show, in that episode is okay?

629
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: I mean, go ahead, please, what's your favorite.

630
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: And most single favorite if you pick one.

631
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: You just had to pick one favorite moment from Thriller

632
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: in Fellow, what would it be?

633
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 5: Mark, I don't have to tell you. So it's so

634
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 5: simple and it's one of the greatest. Most if you

635
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 5: just steal a screenshot and send it out on the internet,

636
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 5: it goes crazy viral. People love it.

637
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 8: It's the fact that Bill Daniels William Daniels is acting

638
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 8: with Vader, yeah yeah, and jumping over the jump over.

639
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 5: The ropes and then going face to face. The guy

640
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 5: was in the Graduate. The guy was in seventeen seventy six.

641
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 5: The guy is one of you know, doctor Mark Craig

642
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 5: on sand The guy is one of the most accomplished

643
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 5: actors in the book world. And he's acting with Vader

644
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 5: to this behemoth wrestler and he went toe to toe

645
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: with him. And just the screenshot of Bill Daniels face

646
00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 5: to face.

647
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: With for me is like the best.

648
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 5: I just look back on it so fondly, you know,

649
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 5: it just it makes me really really happy.

650
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: We also noticed there's a jock in the episode named Savage.

651
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 4: Was this a reference to Ben's last name?

652
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 5: Probably? Yeah, probably. And I'll tell you another person I'm

653
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 5: glad you're talking about the jocks and stuff that made

654
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 5: it work was Kelly Packard.

655
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, she's great.

656
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 5: Most people would have, probably especially in the nineties, gone

657
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 5: with you know, trophy esque, not necessarily you know, maybe

658
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 5: stereotypical blonde or whatever. She was super smart and everything

659
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 5: she did was on her terms. She knew who she was,

660
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 5: and she knew what she wanted, and she played the

661
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 5: heck out of it. So shout out Kelly Packard because

662
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 5: she really really helped make that work and not fall

663
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 5: in these tropes and traps of the nineties. Yeah.

664
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know if we talked about this the

665
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: last time you were here.

666
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: So Adam comes on, he's great, he kind of steals

667
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: the episode. He's wonderful. Why then, was all of a

668
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: sudden the bullies were kind of like, we're not gonna

669
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: We're not gonna go with the bullies anymore. It was

670
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: just like they were there and then they weren't.

671
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably budget and stuff. It's okay, turn you know,

672
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 5: it's funny like sometimes I look at a company like

673
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 5: Disney and I'm like, I know what you're paying your CEOs.

674
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 5: Can we not have the thugs? Right? You know, you

675
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 5: got CEOs making twenty five thirty forty five million a year?

676
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 5: Can we have the thugs what they cost?

677
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: Like?

678
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: And it never made sense. And so you know, looking back,

679
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 5: simple regret's for me personally where Anthony for sure, even Alex,

680
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 5: but we never could service him he deserved, right, Yeah,

681
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 5: that was the problem and it was not intentional. It

682
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 5: was not you know, we just for whatever reason. Again,

683
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: as you guys all said, there were all of a sudden,

684
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 5: our world just kept expanding.

685
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: So you don't remember with Tony like any conversations about

686
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: oh now, we're definitely not bringing mister Turner back.

687
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: Like I mean, I just remember Michael coming down from

688
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 5: a meeting with the you know, was the suits going,

689
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 5: you know, no, like Tony's Tony's done just you know,

690
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 5: like he would to me, he was so important because

691
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 5: of that positive messaging of always walk with the motorcycle

692
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 5: helmet in case you fall. That's a very important message

693
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 5: for the kids. Always carry your out. Tony was great.

694
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: Always read your men too.

695
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because West Connecticut.

696
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 5: Because you don't know when it's going to be a

697
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: pop quiz on the comic book.

698
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: Recent over here, What's going on with you?

699
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: One of the reasons we had such success was because

700
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 5: you guys did create an off screen family and Tony

701
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 5: was a big part of that family, and seeing him

702
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 5: on set every day sucked. Yeah, And when I see him, like,

703
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 5: you know, a few months ago at Rider's place, we

704
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 5: did that little get together. We'll get together a party,

705
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 5: no no, no.

706
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: No kidding.

707
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 5: So many wrestlers there.

708
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: I was invited to.

709
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 5: I know you were, Although why was security told? I

710
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: don't out look at this guy.

711
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: Every time I go to Riders, I steal things.

712
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: It's fun seeing Tony there. I'm like, like, you know,

713
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: and it wasn't me, but you just feel a little

714
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 5: like remore going man. Of course, did you dirty? Yeah, yeah,

715
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: it's in some way or the network did you dirty?

716
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 5: Or the studio did. Like nobody could sit there and go, well,

717
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 5: he's not that good. Nobody can look at him and say, well,

718
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: he was a bad apple on the set and the

719
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 5: opposite he popped little out of golf Like, there's not

720
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 5: a bad word you could say about Tony and the

721
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 5: audience loved him. So what were what was that? And

722
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 5: as far as you know Ethan and.

723
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: And Blake and Danny, I you know it's all just budget.

724
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 5: Then it's budget. I mean you know they they would

725
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 5: have been great at the wedding. Yeah, yeah, And that's

726
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 5: what you do. You know, when you have these milestone

727
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: moments like we did on Girl, we had everybody there.

728
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 5: The audience loves that. Man, that's their gift. It's our

729
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 5: gift too, to be reunited. But when the audience sits

730
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 5: there and goes, oh, there's those guys from season three

731
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 5: and four who I love they're back. We owe our

732
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 5: audience those little gifts. Yeah, that was all part of

733
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 5: you know, television and Will as a historian, you know that,

734
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 5: I know, you know these moments of bringing characters back.

735
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: Do you remember when when Richie came back from from

736
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: unhappy days where you don't think he's going to be there,

737
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: and they go, I'm sorry, Richie couldn't come and he

738
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: runs in and goes.

739
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: Cause I was waiting for the cab and it's like,

740
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's back.

741
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 5: Yeah.

742
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: These were huge moments in television.

743
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 5: Applause break, yep.

744
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And now you.

745
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 5: Know, that kind of stuff is gone, and I do

746
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 5: think everything is cyclical, and I do think those kind

747
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 5: of things will come back. And they're all you know

748
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 5: some multi cams, Danielle, you know as you've directed, you know,

749
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: Tim Allen and all the other ones that they still work.

750
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: Don't they Yeah, yeah, they do.

751
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 4: The audience loves them.

752
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 6: I mean we have we're doing those in front of

753
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 6: a live studio audience and they're right along for every moment.

754
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 5: Yeah. Because and the disconnect I guess in the exacts

755
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 5: minds are that because of the Internet and social media,

756
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 5: there's no real boundary between fans and stars. They see

757
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: them every day online type thing. But you know, back

758
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 5: then when multiicam was so huge, when an audience got

759
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 5: to come in and sit there and see these people

760
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 5: up close and personal, that was magic for them. Yeah,

761
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 5: you know, but now it's a little different because everybody

762
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: feels like they know you guys because of the Internet

763
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 5: and social.

764
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 6: I was going to ask you why do you think

765
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 6: wrestlers make such good actors? From The Rock to Bautista

766
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 6: to John Cena, list goes on, what do you think

767
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 6: the correlation.

768
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: There is training? Every time they cut a promo, it's

769
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 5: an acting class. Yeah, and they weren't good. You know.

770
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 5: Andy Fickman, who is a director of producer I've been

771
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: friends with for a long time, started off The Rock

772
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 5: in a couple of his first movies and he you know,

773
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 5: The Rock was not The Rock back then. It was

774
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 5: like anything else. You know, you look back on your

775
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 5: early work, or even me as a writer, I look

776
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 5: back on my early work compared to my work now,

777
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, there's a difference. So it's the same with

778
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 5: these guys, the big guys like Sina. By the way,

779
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 5: Sena has an incredible sense of comedic timing.

780
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah he does.

781
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 5: He's a funny dude. He is you know, Batista's who

782
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 5: he is, and The Rock is an action figure come

783
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 5: to life. But I think it's cutting their teeth on

784
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 5: those promos day in day out, grabbing that mic and

785
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 5: looking somebody in the eye and then looking into the

786
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: eyes of the audience. Millions and millions of people and

787
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: connecting with them. Yep, what what a better I mean,

788
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 5: I couldn't think of a better acting class. So that

789
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 5: would be my answer to that.

790
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 6: If you had to pick another wrestler, someone currently competing

791
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 6: in the modern day, to appear on Boy Meets World, Now,

792
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 6: who would.

793
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 5: You Pick's Live Morgan? Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's It's

794
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 5: absolutely live. I'll tell you it's funny. I mostly am,

795
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: you know, very like. My favorite wrestlers now are all

796
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 5: on the female side. I love britt as we've talked about. Danielle.

797
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love.

798
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 5: Mariah May you know, she's playing that sultry character and

799
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 5: she plays the heck out of it Tony Storm. But

800
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 5: for me, it's Live because if we're doing coming of

801
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 5: age stories, Live is the girl next stoor that everybody,

802
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 5: every boy, every girl is going to fall for. She's

803
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 5: so likable, so accessible, she has such you know, and

804
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 5: any era kind of look. You can put her in

805
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 5: the fifties and buy it, you can put her in the.

806
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: So she's she's of the wrestling room absolutely.

807
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 5: And to further, you know, give Danielle her flowers. She

808
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 5: has this incredibly larger than life, bubbly personality and you

809
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 5: just want to hang out with her. You just want

810
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 5: to sew twelve thirteen fourteen year old Live Morgan or

811
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 5: sixteen for aar Matthews, you know whatever. All you guys

812
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 5: would want to know this person, be this person. I

813
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 5: think her likability meter is off the charts.

814
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna ask you another hypothetical. It's season five,

815
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: A Boy Meets World. You're working on it. You now

816
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: take complete creative control season five onward?

817
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 5: What do you do? What would you do? So that's

818
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 5: a great question. Now, I I think we left halfway

819
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 5: through the season.

820
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: I think you guys left during the ski Lodge episode

821
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: if I read correct, right, so right around there, so

822
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 3: right around Corey Tapanga. We're not definitely getting married, we don't. Yeah,

823
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: So so here this is these are real com I

824
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: love this question.

825
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 5: This is amazing, right because, like I think I was

826
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 5: more careful the first time I was on, but now

827
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 5: it's like, you guys are all established. I had conversations

828
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 5: in the room with all of us and Michael. I

829
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 5: did not support them getting married. I did not.

830
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: I did not.

831
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 5: I just didn't think it was speaking to the generation

832
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 5: of where we were going. If in the other direction, sure, right.

833
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 5: You know my mom was twenty Yeah, my dad twenty

834
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 5: five when they got married. They stayed another sixty five years.

835
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 3: But even that would have been two years after season five. Yeah,

836
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: I mean that's what I mean, Like you're talking that

837
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 3: even that young, get getting married young still doesn't necessarily

838
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 3: mean eighteen.

839
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 5: So and again it's Michael show and his belief of

840
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 5: love and even in his own personal you know, journey

841
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 5: with his wonderful wife. They have hiccups along the way, but.

842
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: That was your one of your driving creative things. Should

843
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: not have Corey Tapanga like destined forever it should be,

844
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: But you wanted to Panga still be on the show.

845
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 3: You just wanted it to be.

846
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: If you want to try to kick me off the show,

847
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: or did you.

848
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: Get I get rid of that Danielle fishery my dog?

849
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 5: Oh of course I think that my reality. You know, Michael,

850
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 5: once he got you guys together, he knew he wanted

851
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 5: to marry you guys. He believed in destiny, he believed

852
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 5: in one love, he believed in all that stuff. I didn't.

853
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 5: And again, as forward thinking, and I don't know what

854
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 5: am I four years younger than Michael? I don't know

855
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 5: those five years whatever. I was the baby in the room.

856
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 5: But I just saw where we were going, and you know,

857
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 5: as society and I even with my own kids, Kristin

858
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 5: and I and we've been divorced for ten plus years now,

859
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 5: but you know, back when I was a kid, and

860
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 5: Michael has a very you know, maybe has a more idealistic,

861
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 5: old fashioned way because of how he grew up. Like

862
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 5: there were I didn't with our kids. We didn't say

863
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 5: at seventeen, you have to know what you want to

864
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 5: do for the rest of your life. You're going to

865
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 5: college to study that, then you will get a job

866
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 5: in that. We didn't raise our kids like that. That's

867
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 5: how I was raised. So for me also again nothing wrong,

868
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 5: I want to be very clear, nothing wrong with according

869
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 5: to pet getting married. That was Michael's wish and he

870
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 5: executed it. And I would say, what would you say,

871
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 5: more than half the fan base supports it, right, Yeah,

872
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 5: I don't know.

873
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did a vote back in the day of

874
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: should they or shouldn't they? And should they want?

875
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

876
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, they asked the audience.

877
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's great. And but I I I again

878
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 5: saw moving a different way, less pressure on kids to

879
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 5: know what they want to do less pressure on kids

880
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 5: to have to declare their profession when they leave freaking

881
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 5: high school. And that's you know, also and the marriage

882
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 5: thing aside. Now I'm talking about the kids, and back

883
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 5: in the day, the pressure, I think that's also partly

884
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 5: a root of a lot of mental health issues in

885
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 5: young people. It was that incredible pressure at seventeen eighteen

886
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 5: years old to know what the heck you're doing for

887
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 5: the rest of your life.

888
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: So that's interesting. So you're actually taking what I think

889
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: is a very specific example like the Cory Tapanga love

890
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: destiny marriage thing, but you're expanding it to all of

891
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 3: our characters in a way, and all of our world,

892
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 3: like the Boy Meets World world got very set season

893
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: five onward as far as like these characters are these

894
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: type of people doing this type of thing, and you're

895
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: advocating for more of a sort of general openness about

896
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 3: where yeah, growth like keeping basically we kind of came

897
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: of age by season five and then just played out

898
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: as those characters as opposed to keeping it.

899
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and what's the reality. You know, I'm sixty four

900
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 5: years old. I'm not done learning, right, I'm not done changing,

901
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 5: I'm not done rediscovering things that make me truly happy

902
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 5: and experiencing those things. So in my view, I just

903
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 5: think that you know, we all as humans continue to grow,

904
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 5: continue to evolve, continue to make we are never done

905
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 5: coming of age. And that's the truth. We're never done

906
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 5: coming of age. You know there are, which is why

907
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 5: like movies like The Big Chill back in the day,

908
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 5: I loved it was a bunch of adults coming of age.

909
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 1: Right, you know, around the death of a dear friend

910
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner's arm.

911
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 4: I want to ask you about my yearbook quote in

912
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 4: the episode. Are you familiar with the gestalt prayer? A

913
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 4: gestalt prayer? Have you ever heard of that?

914
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 5: No? Okay, but I'm laughing because obviously you know I

915
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 5: that's not me, not from you, I know. I mean,

916
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: you guys know me well enough to know Bluckman not

917
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 5: going beautiful.

918
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 4: So the official quote from Tapanga is I do my

919
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: thing and you do your thing.

920
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 5: I am you.

921
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: I am I, and you are you.

922
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 6: If in the end we end up together, it's beautiful.

923
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 6: And I never knew where that came from or had

924
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 6: never just thought it was from our show. And then

925
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 6: a very smart listener revealed that it's actually from something

926
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 6: called a Gestalt prayer.

927
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 4: More like, is it like, let me pull up the

928
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 4: official Gestalt prayer because it's.

929
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 5: The way you look for writer, you can use that

930
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 5: with your poet wrestling character.

931
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, Gstal Prayer by Fritz Pearls. I do my thing

932
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 4: and you do your thing.

933
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 6: I am not in this world to live up to

934
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 6: your expectations and you are not in this world to

935
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 6: live up to mine.

936
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: Go to you are you and I am I? And

937
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: if by chance we find each other, it's beautiful.

938
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: If not, don't have to get married.

939
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 4: It can't be helped.

940
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: Yes, so healthy watching this episode when we have that moment, Danielle, Like,

941
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 3: I know we talked about the first time when when

942
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 3: when Corey and when Sean and Topanga have the moment

943
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: at Chubby's where he's like, oh, you like him? It

944
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: is so fun because it's like, oh, they're discovering Corey

945
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: and Topanga, they're discovering this relationship and there's there's energy there,

946
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: and there's like real energy between the two of us.

947
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: And then the ending where you read this beautiful quote

948
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 3: also has energy. It's like, oh my god, there's the

949
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 3: potential and I just I miss that I missed the

950
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: like potential to be something.

951
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 6: And potential and unknowing and mystery and evolution for destiny

952
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 6: gotta be let's get it.

953
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter that it's toxic stage.

954
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 5: Like what was being shown on camera with both of you,

955
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 5: I know, run away, make every viewer who is married go.

956
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 5: I think we should maybe rethink this. If we're gonna

957
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 5: espouse destiny and one true love, there should have been

958
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 5: a little the balance should have been a little more magic,

959
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 5: right and angry Cory, who is basically telling the world

960
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 5: and you, I don't really want this, right, I don't

961
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 5: know again.

962
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: Life is supposed to be miserable. Yeah, you can stay miserable.

963
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: Wonderful things, women throwing yourselves themselves.

964
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: It's just a world of temptation because you're Corey.

965
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: You're the kid who just wants to be someone but

966
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: is also somehow the most popular kid that's ever walked

967
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: the hallways of John Adamson and backge.

968
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 5: My parents, my parents' generation and before. How many people

969
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 5: got married and had kids because that's what you do.

970
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: Yep, of course, that's what you're supposed to do, and

971
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: stayed in pretty unhealthy marriages. A lot of them, not everyone,

972
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: of course, but some unhealthy marriages because you just this

973
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: is it.

974
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: You're married now? Yeah, write it out.

975
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: So, speaking of unhealthy marriages, we found must Gang. No,

976
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: we recently interviewed your writing partner, Howard Busgang. The episode

977
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 3: has not aired yet, but we did talk to him,

978
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 3: and one of the things that was so interesting is

979
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: like we didn't actually talk to him that much back

980
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: in the day, Like he was so much more subdued

981
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 3: and like behind the scenes than you, because like you

982
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 3: would just hang.

983
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: Out with us.

984
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 3: You're always talking to me. Yeah, we talk about music,

985
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 3: we talk about movies, like everything, whereas with bus Gang

986
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 3: we didn't get So tell us about that relationship. What

987
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: was it like working with him? What was the dynamic?

988
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: How did because you were much more present to us,

989
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: but talking to him, he's hysterical. We know that he

990
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: must have brought so much the to the relationship and

991
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 3: to the writing. So how did that work out for you?

992
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 5: Great question? Did not know that it would be asked,

993
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 5: but it so. Howard and I know each other since

994
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 5: nineteen seventy nine.

995
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 3: Oh wow, we grew up.

996
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 5: Two streets away from each other, two streets and are.

997
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: You proud Americans, so we can continue talking with you.

998
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 5: You grew up well, I was born in Jersey, so

999
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 5: I'm an actual American. I'm not a Canadian who was

1000
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 5: hoping that my country gets swallowed up by lords right

1001
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 5: in the Ultimate pac Man walka waka waka waka.

1002
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 3: No, let's goot shot, let's take it.

1003
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 5: But so Howard and I became friends, and then it

1004
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 5: was before Boy Meets World. Danny Jacobson a big show

1005
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 5: run her. He had a show, he had two shows.

1006
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 5: He came from the home improvement camp, but he had

1007
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 5: two shows, Good Advice and Matt About You. And had

1008
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 5: a friend who was an assistant at Sony TriStar, who

1009
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 5: said they want to hire a team. I said, well,

1010
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 5: I'm not a team. I write alone. And she said,

1011
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 5: I can probably say you'll have a good chance of

1012
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 5: getting this gig if you're a team. I spoke to

1013
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 5: Howard and said, hey, you know you want to do this,

1014
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 5: and we went for the meeting. Here's the funny story

1015
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 5: with that. We go in meet Danny Jacobson, notorious, super

1016
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 5: talented guy, but his focuses were back in the day

1017
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 5: were two things, the betting form, horses and pot. We

1018
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 5: walk into a cloud of smoke. He goes, you seem normal.

1019
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 5: He hands us two VHS tapes. Go watch these two shows,

1020
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 5: which ever one you want. I read your script. It's great.

1021
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 5: Whichever one you want, you could do, so we go watch.

1022
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 5: Good Advice was Shelley Long, the late Treat Williams, George Weiner,

1023
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 5: Juliet Lewis's brother, Lightfield Lewis. Estelle Harris later played George's

1024
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 5: mom like this incredible cast, and the concept was simple.

1025
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 5: She was a marriage therapist and Treat Williams character was

1026
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 5: a divorce attorney and they shared office space, so clearly

1027
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 5: they were going to have the same dance. We go,

1028
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 5: this show is going to run for ten years.

1029
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: And the others mad about you.

1030
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 5: The other was mad about you that we said too.

1031
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 5: Sonyaid no to mad about you, like what Good Advice

1032
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 5: ran one or two years. But so Howard and I are.

1033
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 5: Our dynamic was as you said, we were very different

1034
00:57:53,680 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 5: both personally and professionally. And what was under deniable is

1035
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 5: our work was really good, but we were a broken marriage.

1036
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 5: We were Correoto and we like you guys don't know this,

1037
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 5: but normally, normally the norm was writing teams share an office.

1038
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 5: By year three, Michael went to Karen McCain and said,

1039
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 5: get them their own offices.

1040
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 4: How long were you guys a team.

1041
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 5: Good Advice through ninety eight or ninety nine grown Ups

1042
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 5: with Juliel? I know, you guys had Julil White on

1043
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 5: and we did his show, so I'd say about eight

1044
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 5: nine years and that was it. Like people think that

1045
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 5: we were together forever. The work was always really good

1046
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 5: and the combination worked, and but you know, personally, it

1047
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 5: was just hard for both of us. Were very different.

1048
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 5: Love sports, you know, he loves Delhi.

1049
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to name a sandwich after me, hopefully

1050
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: if I keep if I keep bugging about it, that's

1051
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: the plans.

1052
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 5: The make up for the wrestling, no names.

1053
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: I want my own sandwich.

1054
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, person next to Danielle Brisket sandwich works for me.

1055
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 5: But anyway, you know, we had a really great eight

1056
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 5: nine ten year run working together. He's super, super talented

1057
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 5: and I wish him nothing, but you know, love and

1058
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 5: success and happiness.

1059
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 6: Well, Mark, you were an integral part, as was Howard

1060
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 6: of Boy Meets World, and it.

1061
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 4: Is now a show. As writer mentioned, we've been watching.

1062
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: We've watched straight through five.

1063
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 6: Seasons and we see your mark, we feel your mark,

1064
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 6: and we love you, Mark, love so much. Thank you

1065
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 6: so much for coming back to reminisce with us and

1066
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 6: for talking about Boy Meets World. Without you, they're really

1067
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 6: there is no Boy Meets World. So thank you so

1068
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 6: much for your contributions over those years. And it's always

1069
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 6: great to have you.

1070
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 5: And shout out to all the fans, and thanks for

1071
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 5: supporting these guys. They deserve it.

1072
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank thank you Mark. Good to see you Mark.

1073
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: Not soon by gosh.

1074
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 6: I don't obviously we didn't know any of the backstory,

1075
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 6: but I wonder, like, knowing both of them, I still

1076
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 6: find it hard to believe they needed separate offices, you know,

1077
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 6: like like I wonder what it was about even just

1078
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 6: being so different that like.

1079
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 4: They couldn't be in this, they couldn't share an office.

1080
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: Can you even imagine Howard raising his voice?

1081
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 5: Like even just the.

1082
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 3: Outward conflict, I think it would probably just be like

1083
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 3: they would get on each other's nerves. Yeah, we got

1084
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 3: to take a break.

1085
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, but is there anybody who wouldn't

1086
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 6: get on someone anybody who wouldn't get on someone else's nerves?

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Speaker 4: If you're like sharing an office.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four and that writing staff there sometimes till three

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Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. They're doing everything. They're doing five

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Speaker 2: or six scripts this season. I mean that's it's a

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Speaker 2: lot of work. It's a to I mean, that's why

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Speaker 2: it's magical when it when it works. Yeah, like when

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Speaker 2: it when it's good, it's good.

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Speaker 3: I've only known I've only known a few writers who

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Speaker 3: are like just in love with their room, you know who.

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Speaker 3: They were so happy most of the time. It's a

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Speaker 3: lot of a lot of anxiety, a lot of competition,

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Speaker 3: a lot of backstabbing. Less so nowadays. But I feel like,

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Speaker 3: especially back in the day, it was it was all

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Speaker 3: like just trying to get your name on that script,

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Speaker 3: trying to get your joke in.

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Speaker 1: And and that's a man forget. If you were a woman,

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Speaker 1: it was a if you're even in there. It's an

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Speaker 1: entirely different worlds.

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Speaker 3: I think nowadays it is. I think it's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's more accepting, it's more like of a safe space.

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Speaker 3: But I also know that COVID took a big you know,

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Speaker 3: it had a huge effect. Everybody was sort of suddenly

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Speaker 3: having like zoom meeting writing rooms, and like, I think

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Speaker 3: it's gone back in person a lot more. But it's

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Speaker 3: a it's a it's an interesting culture. I've never really

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Speaker 3: experienced it for firsthand, I know me neither.

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Speaker 4: No mean, I've never I've never been in it. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: you didn't like it at all.

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Speaker 6: But if you think about what makes a really good

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Speaker 6: writer's room, you're gonna need a lot of very unique povs.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna want different people with different povs and different experiences.

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Speaker 3: And then you think skill sets and.

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Speaker 6: Different skill sets and different preferences and different and you know,

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Speaker 6: maybe kind of their own niche, and so you're going

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Speaker 6: to have people that are really different from you and

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Speaker 6: that you know, Yeah, if you think about spending every

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Speaker 6: single day, hours on end, you're gonna get annoyed.

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Speaker 4: You're just it's going to it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I think it's also always depends too on the leadership

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Speaker 2: in the room. I think evers leading the room is

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Speaker 2: gonna is going to dictate what type of room it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I mean when we had Barbie on, Barbie was

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Speaker 2: talking about you know how she's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: and one of the last shows I want it was

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Speaker 2: all women, and I was one of the people in

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Speaker 2: charge and it was the greatest thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just you never know. It's it's all

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Speaker 1: about who's kind of leading the room too. I think

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Speaker 1: that's true.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, thank you all for joining us for this

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Speaker 6: episode of Podmeets World. As always, you can follow us

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