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Speaker 1: Hello puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. Our guests

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Speaker 1: today are Will and Mango, hosts of the excellent podcast

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Speaker 1: Part Time Genius. So in honor of Will and Mango,

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Speaker 1: we are looking for things with the.

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Speaker 2: Initials w M.

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Speaker 1: Phrases are people with the initials WM. For instance, something

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Speaker 1: that you step on before entering a house is a

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Speaker 1: welcome Matt. That's a WM. Here's a hint to another.

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Speaker 1: A big obelisk in Washington, d C. Is also a WM.

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Speaker 1: Think of as many wms as you can during the

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Speaker 1: break and we'll return with our guests, W. Pearson and

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Speaker 1: m Hot ticket order. Hello puzzlers, Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Puzzler podcast the Accent Ball in your Downtown Puzzle Artists Loft.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, AJ Jacobson. I'm here, of course, with

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Speaker 1: Chief Puzzle Officer Greig Pliska Greig. Before the break, we

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Speaker 1: asked listeners to come up with phrases and people with

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Speaker 1: the initials WM in honor of our guests, Will and Mango.

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Speaker 1: Anything come to my the obelisk for instance?

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Speaker 3: Maybe yes, I know the obelisk is the Washington Monument.

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Speaker 1: That is correct? Anything else come to mind?

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Speaker 3: I can I have a snake the water moccasin.

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Speaker 2: Nicely done.

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Speaker 1: And I thought it name, by the way, first name.

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Speaker 3: The Women's movement as a kind of general thing, right good,

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Speaker 3: and and I wrote down wild man.

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Speaker 1: I like it, all right. I'll just give you a

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Speaker 1: couple others. But people send in your favorite w M

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Speaker 3: You want to give me clues to the couple others

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Speaker 1: All right, sure, Madam Tussou's is.

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Speaker 3: One of the wax Museum.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And this is a film about a daydreamer, remade by

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Speaker 1: Ben Stiller.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Walter Mitty, exactly.

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Speaker 1: There you go, good to Washington Machine Whole Milk. But

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Speaker 1: of course our favorite w M. Combo is the host

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Speaker 1: of Part Time Genius, the podcast asked right here on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Will Pearson and Mango hot Ticketer.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Will and.

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Speaker 4: Mangesh Hey, glad to be back.

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Speaker 5: Day two.

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Speaker 1: Day two. You are making it. You don't look too sweaty.

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Speaker 1: Part Time Genius, as folks should know, is an awesome

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Speaker 1: podcast with fascinating facts on every topic under the sun

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Speaker 1: and over. When you started Part Time Genius several years ago,

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Speaker 1: this was interesting. I hadn't remembered. You actually used to

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Speaker 1: do some games and puzzles, including a true false quiz

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Speaker 1: that you gave to me Aj Jacobs when I was

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Speaker 1: a guest on your show.

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Speaker 5: I'd forgotten that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I did not. I it's payback time, it's payback.

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Speaker 4: How did you do?

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Speaker 2: I did I do well?

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Speaker 1: I listened again. It was four out of five. You

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Speaker 1: got me on one.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good. I feel like that's pretty good.

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Speaker 6: Well, well, it was always that was always the first

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Speaker 6: tration when teachers would give quizzes that only had five

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Speaker 4: It's a problem. It's a big problem.

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Speaker 1: We've got, like I think we only have five too.

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Speaker 4: So you're here, we go.

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Speaker 6: Why we're doing this together. I like our chances. We'll

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Speaker 6: see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you could split up. So one says true,

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Speaker 1: one says false, So then you could have a coverab

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Speaker 1: like this. Your true false quiz was about rats lovable rodents.

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Speaker 1: You asked me, for instance, was the original Chuck E

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Speaker 1: Cheese mascot a RNT? And the answer was, if you remember,

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Speaker 1: it is true, it is true. Rick the rat until

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three he transitioned into a mouse.

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Speaker 5: And the world has been so accepting.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful it is.

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Speaker 1: It is a nice lesson in tolerance. And but I

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: So, as I said, I've been waiting to get back

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Speaker 1: te at you. And my true false quiz has a

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Speaker 1: things that contain the word true or false, So it's

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Speaker 1: a meta true false quiz, thank you exactly. For instance,

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Speaker 1: I might give you a true false question about George

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Speaker 1: Washington's false teeth true or false? Where George Washington's.

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Speaker 2: Teeth made of wood?

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Speaker 1: And you might remember, No, oh, I guess I should

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Speaker 1: sphrase it. George Washington's teeth were made of foot true

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Speaker 1: It's only our four hundred show, all right, So yes,

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Speaker 1: that is an herban legend. George Washing his teeth false

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Speaker 1: so your first true false question is about false starts

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Speaker 1: a false start is when a runner moves before the

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Speaker 1: starting gun is fired. True or false? True?

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Speaker 6: Right, I think, Well, I'm trying to decide whether this

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Speaker 4: Question because I don't know that movement is illegal.

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Speaker 6: So much as leaving their block, like leaving their starting block,

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like these guys may be tricking as

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Speaker 3: Also tell you guys, I don't know the answers. I

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Speaker 3: haven't seen this one, so I could be more. I

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Speaker 3: could either be helpful or hurtful by weighing in with

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Would I'm with the wheel that he could be trying

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Speaker 5: Let's let's go with Greg's at Greg and Will's answer so.

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Speaker 1: You're saying false or or no or yes, you say false, Okay,

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Speaker 1: false is correct? That is you got it. I enjoy

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Speaker 1: the tricks, but it wasn't that. The difference was you

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Speaker 1: The wrong reason. The idea is the human brains cannot

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Speaker 1: and that's not allowed. Psychic gifts are very much looked

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Speaker 4: So that's a good one.

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Speaker 5: Gamble should like you should be rewarded for that gamble exactly.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say the problem with that would be

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Speaker 3: I think there's a rule like in the Olympics, if

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Speaker 1: Right, still got you still get like eight fall starts,

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Speaker 1: So right. I've got another true false question about the

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one Madonna documentary Truth or Dare true or false?

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Speaker 1: Warren Baby, who was Madonna's boyfriend at the time of filming,

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Speaker 6: A clarification here, more screen time than Madonna or more

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Speaker 1: The great question for terrifying more screen time than he

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Speaker 4: What do you think, Mango? If it's not true, it feels.

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Speaker 5: Like it should.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it true that you're so vain? By Carly Simon

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Speaker 3: was written about Warren Batty.

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Speaker 4: Oh Wally?

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Speaker 3: Is that true? Is that just a pocket? I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but that's the you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, I remember a couple of years ago they actually

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Speaker 1: So I don't think anyone but the person who one

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Speaker 3: Right, So that could imply I don't claim that Warren

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Speaker 2: Very good, but very good. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think, Mango?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it feels true.

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Speaker 4: It feels like we I want it to be true.

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Speaker 1: that is a very twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Do you want something to be true?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? True?

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Speaker 1: Well, I got you, I got you, so we are

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Speaker 1: it might be down to a B minus. It is false,

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Speaker 1: quite the opposite. Warren Baty was Madonna's boyfriend at the

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Speaker 3: Anyway, that's crazy. He must have been like thirty years

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Speaker 1: By the way, I mentioned George Washington in the intro,

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Speaker 1: and I feel I need an update from you because

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Speaker 1: I was listening to an episode a Part Time Genius

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Speaker 1: where you had serious plans to start a mount rushmore competitor.

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Speaker 1: If you recall this because you found an actual mountain

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Speaker 1: with a rock formation that looks exactly like Martin van Buren.

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Speaker 2: I need an update. How is that? Have you?

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Speaker 4: How are planned the permits it's got on the pyramits.

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Speaker 6: There's there was some conflict there, but yeah, and we

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Speaker 4: Van Buren's it would just be different van Buren poses.

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Speaker 4: So it's evolved over time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, so like Van Buren is a

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Speaker 6: he did. But it just sort of makes it more modern,

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Speaker 1: They both do other things, believe it or not. Mango

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Speaker 6: Mainly mainly, so I'd say probably eighty percent of my

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Speaker 4: What do you think, Mango? It does feel? I mean,

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Speaker 4: it definitely was of the time.

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Speaker 6: I keep I now can't stop thinking about the justin

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Speaker 5: It's so funny how life infuses everything, like the true

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Speaker 6: It feels yeah, that feels right, It feels it was

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Speaker 3: Like it it true is true? Saturday Night Fever, that

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Speaker 2: Exactly the Begs.

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Speaker 1: And this, by the way, is objective fact because Vox

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you know what. I love that type

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Speaker 4: I think Ohio was dead last if I know, well.

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Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, you're stuck inside, it's cold. What

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Speaker 1: All right, So there you go, people who want romance

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I will give you like an

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Speaker 1: get back up to as good this is about false advertising,

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Speaker 1: true or false. Two men sued Universal Studios for false

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Speaker 4: Holy moldly true or false? So that whole thing has

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Speaker 3: God, Anna day armis with an end.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it's this other actress named Anna de Arma. Yeah, yep,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that could have That was the trick. That was

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Speaker 4: This sounds vaguely familiar. I did not see this film,

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Speaker 5: I didn't see the film either, but she wasn't on

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Speaker 3: That's This is the film about the guy who.

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Speaker 3: But it's like he he remembers the Beatles, right, Everyone

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Speaker 1: Nobody because I love the premise. I think it is

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Speaker 3: So you're saying they filmed scenes with her and him, right,

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Speaker 1: And these guys were pissed because they had spent their

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Speaker 4: This to be.

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Speaker 6: I always want the weird things to be true. The

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Speaker 4: Good, should be true.

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Speaker 3: I'll support that all true.

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Speaker 1: It is true, well almost, I'm gonna I was gonna

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Speaker 1: but it is true. Almost everything is true except that

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Speaker 1: It is true that the case racked up seven hundred

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Speaker 2: But just I love the story.

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Speaker 1: I feel it's like a David and Goliath, like they

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Speaker 2: Well, you were terrific.

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Speaker 3: You got I'm going to read out on four plus

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Speaker 3: the extra ten.

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Speaker 1: Well Van Tat, thank you Mango and will you are

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Speaker 1: you have ben you well? I guess I did not

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Speaker 1: we get you for one more day. I've got one

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Speaker 1: or consequences that started as an April fool's hoax? Is

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Speaker 1: that true? Where is that false? Come back and find

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Speaker 1: out and In the meantime, if you have a little time,

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Speaker 1: check out our Instagram feed at Hello puzzler.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not that. It's at Hello false alert.

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Speaker 1: And we will meet here tomorrow for more puzzling puzzles.

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Speaker 2: They will puzzle you puzzlingly.

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Speaker 7: Hey, puzzlers, it's Greg pliska chief puzzle officer, here with

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Speaker 7: the extra credit answer from our previous episode. We had

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Speaker 7: of fun, and we started with some earbuses our favorite

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Speaker 7: trademark pending audio Rebus puzzle. Your extra credit AJ actually

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Speaker 7: gave you two that used the same the kind of

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Speaker 3: One was Bizna Bizna and the other one was Franz

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Speaker 3: Schubert's sympon. The answer, as you've probably gotten, is unfinished,

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Speaker 3: unfinished business and unfinished symphony. But don't leave your puzzling

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Speaker 3: week unfinished. Join us here tomorrow for more puzzling puzzles

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Speaker 3: that will puzzle you puzzlingly.