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Speaker 1: November sixteenth, Dear of Our Lord, twenty twenty one, fresh

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Speaker 1: off a batch of playoff rankings being released, which of

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Speaker 1: course we will react to mere jam packed High Top

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Speaker 1: are more secure than they are, and to be honest,

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Speaker 1: you know who I'm talking about. A lot of you

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Speaker 1: So there is a flip side of that coin. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot going on in the coaching world. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to discuss it tonight. As I said, we're going to

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Speaker 1: have immediate rapid reaction to the playoff rankings being released.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday night, which of course means we have

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Speaker 1: week what are we in now twelve? We got week

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Speaker 1: twelve predictions already, all that, plus we are adding what

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Speaker 1: three more best bets, including one that I believe is

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Speaker 1: happening tonight, which just stands to reason. It's very important

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Speaker 1: that you're following Twitter and Instagram at let kick Josh,

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Speaker 1: because you missed said plays already. If you are not

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Speaker 1: to get on it. We are training headlong into another

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Speaker 1: great show and another trip. This weekend, the Renaissance Tour

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Speaker 1: headed to Columbus, Ohio. Very excited to get up to

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Speaker 1: Buckeye Land because number one, I have not been to

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Speaker 1: I call it big Noon Kickoff. It's almost transcendent. It's

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Speaker 1: And there you see at the Renaissance Tour headed into Columbus,

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Speaker 1: Ohio for Michigan State. At Ohio State. We will break

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Speaker 1: saw now Granted, our feed wasn't great in the control room,

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Speaker 1: What are the takeaways here? Well, first, let's just recap

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Speaker 1: it quickly, because I have hand drawn on the back

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Speaker 1: of this piece of paper the one through twenty five.

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Speaker 1: They spent an inordinate amount of time on twenty five

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Speaker 1: this thing. And I got several takeaways. I don't think

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Speaker 1: this is being sold as a very, very combustible show.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that these are combustible rankings. There wasn't

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Speaker 1: So the first thing when I was watching this with

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Speaker 1: I said, Man, we got to talk about Michigan, Michigan State,

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Speaker 1: it's not that I expected Michigan State to jump Michigan.

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Speaker 1: be plus one a plus two turnovers. You got to

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Speaker 1: affect CJ. Stroud physically, therefore affecting him mentally, and at

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Speaker 1: that point, if it's one possession in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: you take your chances. So let's take a look at

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Speaker 1: what the model thinks about this game, Jesse. The Vegas

432
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Speaker 1: number is fat, it's very big. It is Ohio State

433
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Speaker 1: minus nineteen. Our model has had a great grasp on

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Speaker 1: Ohio State the whole year. It's a little bit shorter,

435
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Speaker 1: it's inside seventeen. So our number is Ohio State minus

436
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Speaker 1: sixteen and a half. Saw no real reason to deviate

437
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Speaker 1: from this. I've got Ohio State winning the game. I

438
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Speaker 1: have Michigan State covering anything over seventeen. And I think

439
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Speaker 1: that because of some big plays they make early in

440
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Speaker 1: the game, it gets a little bit harder for Ohio

441
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Speaker 1: State to stretch it like they did against Purdue. See,

442
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Speaker 1: we got the game we thought we'd get for Ohio

443
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: State against Purdue last week. Think a different start yields

444
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Speaker 1: a different end product, even though we do see Ohio

445
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 1: State winning the game in the end. But hey, we'll

446
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 1: be on hand either way. We're looking forward to it,

447
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: all right. I'm going to get to Oregon, Utah in

448
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Speaker 1: a little while. But before we do that, boy, I

449
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: had the inbox blown up today, and more so than

450
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Speaker 1: even game predictions or playoff, you guys wanted to talk

451
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Speaker 1: about coaching, So let's talk about the coaching carouself. Here's

452
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Speaker 1: where we are as of this, and I'm just gonna

453
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Speaker 1: read the jobs that are open, and then we're going

454
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Speaker 1: to talk about the jobs that may be rumored to

455
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Speaker 1: be coming open, because to be honest with you, there

456
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Speaker 1: are a couple of them that are commanding a lot

457
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Speaker 1: of my attention right now, and they're both in the

458
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Speaker 1: Sunshine State. So LSU, of course is open. We got

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Speaker 1: TCU open, Southern cal Washington State. Virginia Tech opened today

460
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Speaker 1: seven am this morning. I wake up. First thing, I

461
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Speaker 1: see Justin fuinte out the old Tuesday Sunrise special, if

462
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Speaker 1: you will. I don't have a ton on that right now,

463
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Speaker 1: so I'm not going to spend a ton of time

464
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Speaker 1: on FENTE today. Stay tuned on Justin Fuenttey, and stay

465
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Speaker 1: tuned on the Virginia Tech job. Also, Washington is open,

466
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Speaker 1: so Jimmy Lake is out there, of course. Also you've

467
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Speaker 1: got Akron, Florida International, and UMass, and then you've got

468
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Speaker 1: rumors about Florida. You've got hot rumors today about Miami.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with LSU. The very latest that we

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Speaker 1: have heard from Baton Rouge here is my opinion. It

471
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Speaker 1: is my opinion that you should just outright live on

472
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Speaker 1: message boards this time of year. Some people make fun

473
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Speaker 1: of message boards, and yes, there is some ratchet behavior

474
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Speaker 1: from time to time on message boards. LSU chief among them.

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Speaker 1: Those guys know how to act, and equally or maybe

476
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Speaker 1: more so, they know sometimes not how to act. But

477
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Speaker 1: LSU message boards have been gold. I'm surfing them constantly.

478
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're my source of information. They are

479
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Speaker 1: my source of entertainment, and I'll just tell you, like

480
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Speaker 1: tiger bait lawyer, I'll shout one out right now. I'm

481
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Speaker 1: watching and I hear you emoji. I can't do the

482
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: smoking emoji on air. I'll get in trouble. I am

483
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Speaker 1: a Viacom employee. I'm watching, I hear you. So my

484
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: encouragement to you is forsake some time with your family

485
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: this time of year and surf the message boards. Where's

486
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Speaker 1: that ever gone wrong? Where's that strategy ever gone wrong?

487
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Speaker 1: So the hot name is obviously a Lincoln Riley right now,

488
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Speaker 1: it's not Jimbo Fisher. Jesse asked me, do you need

489
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Speaker 1: any Jimbo Fisher b role, No, because that's never been

490
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Speaker 1: in the cards and it's not going to happen. So

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Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about Jimbo Fisher. Lincoln Riley's

492
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Speaker 1: worth talking about Oklahoma. Folks are convinced he's stay in put.

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Speaker 1: Some LSU folks are convinced they got a shot. I

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Speaker 1: do believe they have a shot. I don't believe anything's finalized.

495
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: I do believe they have a shot. Lincoln Riley gave

496
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Speaker 1: the non denial sort of quasi committal to the job.

497
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Speaker 1: He answered it the best way he could today. I

498
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Speaker 1: think there's a lot going on in two cities tonight.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot going on in Norman, and

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot going on in Baton Rouge.

501
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Speaker 1: And I think this is in play. I do not

502
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Speaker 1: have any firsthand information that anything's been decided either way.

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Speaker 1: I do think it's in play. Ules. She is a

504
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Speaker 1: better job than Oklahoma, but that's not the deciding factor here.

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Speaker 1: The deciding factor is how happy is Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: And if the answer is happy, he's stay input. If

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Speaker 1: he's satisfied, he's stay input. Even if he understands Uls

508
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Speaker 1: she's probably a little bit better job than I have here. No,

509
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Speaker 1: you don't take the leap. If you're already on cloud nine,

510
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Speaker 1: you probably don't take the leap to try and reach

511
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Speaker 1: cloud ten. It's just not smart, and that's not the

512
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Speaker 1: way that anyone would counsel their client to act. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do think there's some traction there. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I would be, you know, overly encouraged to get

515
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Speaker 1: an update in the next twenty four to forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: But it is not surprising to me that those rumors

517
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Speaker 1: are lingering and they haven't immediately been shot down. Outside

518
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Speaker 1: of that, I'm going to circle back around to a

519
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Speaker 1: name with LSU in a little while at Florida. Dennis

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Speaker 1: Dodd on cbsports dot Com Today had a feature where

521
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Speaker 1: he said, according to sources around Gainesville, there is no

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Speaker 1: move expected before the end of the year. When it

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Speaker 1: comes to Dan Mullen. That's not a shock. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anyone expects there to be a move. You know,

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Speaker 1: if they lose by three to Missouri Saturday, if there

526
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Speaker 1: wasn't already a move after they got pasted in Columbia

527
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Speaker 1: South Carolina, there's not going to be a move before

528
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Speaker 1: the end of the year. That's not surprising. What will

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Speaker 1: be surprising to me is if Dan Mullen is retained

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Speaker 1: as the head coach at Florida. So I continue to

531
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Speaker 1: maintain the stance that I've had there for the last week.

532
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you this, if there is a sentiment

533
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Speaker 1: around that program that we need to wait and see

534
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: how he handles the Missouri game, or we need to

535
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Speaker 1: wait and see how he handles the Florida State game,

536
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you that is a recipe for disaster. It

537
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: is horrific decision making if after four years you do

538
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: not have enough in your portfolio to formulate an opinion

539
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: of your head coach to where eight quarters of football

540
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Speaker 1: is all of a sudden going to tell the tale

541
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Speaker 1: for you. You can't be allowing that to happen. And

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Speaker 1: if anybody's in the decision making chair down there, who

543
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Speaker 1: actually is of that mentality, I don't know where the

544
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Speaker 1: dump button is. I don't know if you can just

545
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: push him out the door for a second, but you

546
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: take their mic from him, whatever you got to do.

547
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Speaker 1: You cannot let people who are of that mentality be

548
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Speaker 1: making decisions because it's not a way to run an

549
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Speaker 1: athletic department. It's not a way to make these kinds

550
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Speaker 1: of This is a huge decision anytime you're changing head coaches.

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Speaker 1: This is a five year, ten year tipe decision. If

552
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: you get it right, the next decade's great. If you

553
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: get it wrong, you could be the University of Tennessee.

554
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: Ask them how the last decade has gone. You can't

555
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: be knee jerk, especially if the coach has been there

556
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Speaker 1: four years. You know everything. There's not a prayer that

557
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: you'll learn something about Dan Mullen over the next four weeks.

558
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Speaker 1: What if they win? What if they win both games

559
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Speaker 1: by four points? What have you learned? He went to

560
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: and oh, what have you learned? Did it all of

561
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Speaker 1: a sudden erase what's happened the last two years? And

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00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, if they lose the games by four does

563
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Speaker 1: it erase what's happened in the last two weeks and

564
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: two years? No, it doesn't. So he is who he is.

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00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: So you already have enough to make a decision. Having

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00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: said that, let's stay in the state of Florida. But

567
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: let's go down the road pretty good ways. I've made

568
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: this drive a couple of times. I want to take

569
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: you to Coral Gables, Florida, because that is where we

570
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: have had a change. Not at head coach, yep, but

571
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: Miami has rid themselves of athletic director Blake James. And

572
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: this was rumored for a little while. It's why when

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Speaker 1: we did the Manny Daz segment about three or four

574
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I kind of paired it. At the hip,

575
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: I paired Manny Diaz and Blake James kind of hinted

576
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: around about athletic director. There was a thought down there

577
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Speaker 1: amongst some that a move at athletic director could come

578
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: before head coach, and that indeed has happened. So with

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Speaker 1: Blake James out as athletic director, it to me is

580
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion, even if you got a couple of

581
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: Board of Trustee members in your back pocket. To me,

582
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: it's a foregone conclusion that there will be a head

583
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: coaching change down there. It's probably a matter of when,

584
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: not a matter of if. Priority one a for whoever

585
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: the new athletic director is that they get in down

586
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: there is going to be go get Mario Christibaal. Now

587
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. It would be

588
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: a grand Slam times ten if Miami was able to

589
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: get Mario Christaball to come home. That's not where I

590
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: had the issue. Where I had the issue is a

591
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Speaker 1: lot of people I spoke to today seem to think

592
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Speaker 1: that it's a foregone conclusion that a Mario Christaball come running.

593
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: Because now that you've got Blake James out of the way,

594
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Speaker 1: who he was not exactly best friends with, we're going

595
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: to put a more friendly name in the AD's chair.

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00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: That's the remaining hurdle, that's the one domino that needed

597
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: to fall. Well, No, it's not You've got to be

598
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: a better job than organ that's the domino that needs

599
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: to fall. And you may look back and you may say,

600
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: what did he just say, Miami's got to be a

601
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: better job than Organ. Yeah, that's what I said. Because

602
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 1: to be clear, Miami's not a better job than Oregon.

603
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to do the whole and it's

604
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: not particularly close, but there is a little bit of

605
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: gap here. This is a different world now, and if

606
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: you've been cryogenically frozen over the last decade, this may

607
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: come as a shock to you. But there are things

608
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: they have at Oregon now that make that one of

609
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: the best jobs in the country. And I'm telling you,

610
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: when you hear people say things like money's not going

611
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: to be an issue, or you hear people say things like, oh,

612
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: we're ready to spend, first off, it's easy to say.

613
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: It's a lot harder to do. Secondly, when they say that,

614
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: they usually mean we're going to be able to match

615
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Speaker 1: a coach's salary. That's not what you have to match.

616
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: You got to match Nike's salary. That's what you have

617
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: to match. And I'm telling you Miami will not do it.

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00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're capable. They got a bunch

619
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: of zeros on the end of the health fund down there.

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00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I don't think they'll be able to

621
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Speaker 1: do it. And I'm also telling you you think it's

622
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: just coaching salary that you've got to match. There are

623
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: so many bells and whistles at Orgon you don't even

624
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: know about. You look around. Do you understand how valuable

625
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: it is, for instance, not for your head coach, but

626
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 1: for your assistant coaches to fly private on recruiting visits.

627
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 1: Do you have any concept of how valuable that is

628
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Speaker 1: when you reside in the Pacific Northwest and you have

629
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: to recruit nationally. That is one of about a dozen

630
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: to two dozen edges that Phil Knight and the powers

631
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: that be at Orgon have given that man, Mario Cristobal,

632
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: that you're not going to match. I'm telling you, Miami's

633
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: not going to match it. You can get pissed off

634
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: at it, but I'm not the one making decisions. I

635
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: am telling you Mario Christaball is in the best situation

636
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: of any head coach in America right now. Here's why

637
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to tell anyone no. He gets to

638
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: enjoy the success he has at Organ. He gets to

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Speaker 1: enjoy all the perks he has at Organ, and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to tell anyone know when Miami comes calling,

641
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: which they will, he doesn't have to tell Miami No.

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00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: He could look Miami dead in their eyes and say,

643
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: I'll take your job tomorrow. All you have to do

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00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: is give me everything Organ gives me. Miami then has

645
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: to look at each other. They have to bow their chin,

646
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: they have to tuck their tail, turn around and walk

647
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: out the door. Mario Cristaball never removes the smile from

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00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: his face. Didn't have to tell his old folks. No.

649
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: He'd have to tell his family down there, and no

650
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: he had to tell anyone no. They told themselves No.

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00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: That's how to go down when this job eventually is

652
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: offered to Mario Christabal. You think you can match Organ,

653
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: and you think you're a better program than Organ, and

654
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, back in the day, you'd be two

655
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: for two, and assuming that in twenty twenty one year

656
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: over for two. If you assume that it's up to

657
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: them to change it, it's up to them to change it. Lastly,

658
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: I was at Baylu this past weekend and this is

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00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: where I want to talk to LSU again. I was

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00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: at Baylu this past weekend. I was around Dave Randa.

661
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: We got some time around Dave Randa. Dave Randa is

662
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: never going to win a press conference for you, and therefore,

663
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: because of that, he is not a He is not

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Speaker 1: the hottest commodity. Let me say on a lot of

665
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: these hot boards, you got to define what you want

666
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: as a head coach. You got to define what you

667
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: want in a head coach. If you want structure, if

668
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: you want a sound organizational model, if you want a

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00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: process oriented mentality, if you want to get a guy

670
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: that gets an organization to go over the cliff for him.

671
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: If you want a guy who can adapt, which he's

672
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: done mightily behind the scenes just in the last probably

673
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: twelve to eighteen months, and a guy with the ability

674
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: to instill a championship culture and a championship mentality. And

675
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: you're worried about winning games more than winning press conferences.

676
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: I am telling you, up to and including USC and

677
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: LSU hire Dave Randa. Dave A. Randa's the guy for you.

678
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't care about his resume, I don't care about

679
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: the lack of experience. He is going to go win

680
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: championship somewhere. It can either be for you or it

681
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: could be at the expense of you. Dave Randa is

682
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: going to be a star. You talk to folks at

683
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: the high school level, you talk to folks at the

684
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: college level. I dare you to go find anyone who

685
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have an axtra grime that speaks ill of him.

686
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: It's the opposite. They completely put stars over their eyeballs

687
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: when they talk about him, especially at the high school level.

688
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: The folks who have interacted with him, coaches and whatnot,

689
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: You go talk to them about Dave Randa. You know,

690
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: the folks who coach ball for a living. They know

691
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: the game. They eat it, sleep it, breathe it, live it.

692
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: Dave Randa is the real deal. There are a lot

693
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: of folks out there who sell that stuff. He is

694
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: that stuff. Dave Randa is that stuff. And if he

695
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: ever gets that job and puts that on a T shirt,

696
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: and I want some of those royalties. All right, let's

697
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: move on. Speaking of the Oregon Ducks, we have another

698
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: game to break down here. Oregon is at Utah this Saturday.

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00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: It is a seven thirty Eastern kick on ABC. Utah

700
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: is the favorite team here. The Utes are favored by three.

701
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: Utah is the quintessential knee jerk team. They are the

702
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: Pac twelve knee Jerk Special. This year they started one

703
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: and two, they have gone six and one since then.

704
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: And then you got a Oregon that could be this

705
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: year's Clemson Special. Clemson used to have a phrase about

706
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: themselves called Clemsoning, and then they're redefined what Clemsoning was.

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00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: And now Clemsoning is peaking at the right time. They're

708
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: not quite doing it this year, but there were several

709
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: years there where Clemson looked very vulnerable early and then

710
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: they looked completely unbeatable late in the season. Oregon can

711
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: do that. They can be the team that peaks at

712
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: the right time. As a result, this could be Game

713
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: of the Week type material. So I want to know

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00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: with Oregon, who again is the underdog in this game.

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00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Is there a road formula for Oregon? And by that,

716
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: of course, some people mean there's a different style you

717
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: play on the road than you play at home. I

718
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: don't know if there is a road formula per se.

719
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: I think it's just the Oregon formula. It definitely needs

720
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: to be the formula against Utah because the attention for

721
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: Organ's automatically going to go to the quarterback position. You

722
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: know it. I know it. Everyone Thursday and Friday when

723
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: they're previewing these games, they're going to be talking about

724
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown and they're going to be talking about whether

725
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: he can get it done on the road, he can

726
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: get it done in a hostile environment. And I'm telling you, yeah,

727
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: he's important. Travis die is the most important player in

728
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: this game for Oregon, especially offensively. He's the most important

729
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: player in this game. They were at Washington a couple

730
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. This is why I'm talking about road formula,

731
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: because they went up there and they rode Travis Dye

732
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: and they rode him to the tune of twenty eight

733
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: carries for two hundred and eleven yards. That was good

734
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: for seven and a half per clip. And then you

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00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: combine that with looking at Utah's conference loss this year

736
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: and that being at the hands of Oregon State, who

737
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: hung two sixty on the ground against Utah. Oh, there's

738
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 1: a formula there, and it plays right into the hands

739
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: of how Mario christ Baal probably wants to play anyway.

740
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: But if that whole clemsoning theory holds true, and if

741
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: Oregon is a team ready to peek at the right time,

742
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: then that's where their rushing per carry average will be Saturday.

743
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: It'll float in that somewhere between six and a half

744
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: seven and a half yards per carry range. They will

745
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: minimum B plus one in the turnover battle because of

746
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: what Caveon Thibodeau can do and therefore what their corners

747
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: can afford to do because of the pressure they're getting,

748
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: and also they can leverage their athletic advantage. That is

749
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: where early in the year Oregon was falling flat. They

750
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: have the athletic advantage. Outside of the Ohio State game,

751
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: which ironically they won in spite of it, they have

752
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: an athletic advantage over everyone they play. What's aggravating at

753
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: times is when you watch Oregon, they don't get to

754
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: flex it because they don't put themselves in advantageous enough

755
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: positions to flex it. But if to go back to

756
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: the Clemson model, if they're peaking at the right time,

757
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: one of the reasons they win this thing going away Saturday,

758
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: if they do, will be because you're watching and you're saying, man,

759
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: they just got better players and they're being put in

760
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: position to maximize and leverage that edge they have. So Jesse,

761
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: let's take a look at what the model thinks on

762
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: this game, because I know we had a little disagreement

763
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: with our friends out there in the desert. By the way,

764
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: again at Caesar's. Currently Utah favored by three. The model

765
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: has this thing down near a pick as Utah minus

766
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: zero point five. Of course, when you eliminate home Field,

767
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: it's telling me Orgon's the better team here. I am

768
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: going to ride a theory that I have that Oregon

769
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: is ready to peak, and I don't know that they're

770
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: going to play the level Clumson did in those years

771
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: that they won the national championship. Whatever Oregon's best brand

772
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: of football is, I think we're going to see it.

773
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: I think we're seeing it right now, and I think

774
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: we're going to see a continuation of it this Saturday

775
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: if they get this done. To be clear, I'm picking

776
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: Orgon to cover and win. If they get this done,

777
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: it's got to give them all the confidence in the

778
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: world to go to Oregon State, well, to play the

779
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: Oregon State game, but then if you rematch with Utah

780
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve championship game, it's got to give

781
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: you a ton of confidence you already went to Salt

782
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: Lake City. I mean, you feel a lot better about

783
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: playing them in Vegas. But there you see the standings

784
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: right now in the PAC twelve. It's Utah in first place,

785
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: and it's Oregon in first place. And the odds to win,

786
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: by the way, which Jesse has put up here, the

787
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: odds to win the conference, Oregon currently a minus one

788
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: twenty five favorite, Utah right there at plus one twenty

789
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: Obviously that could change as early as this Saturday, but

790
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: we will take Oregon to cover the three and win. Outright.

791
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: What I wanted to leave you with tonight, and thank you,

792
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: by the way, let me let me do my ceremonial

793
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: hello to the live chat there. I wanted to leave

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00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: you with more best bets. So the Raminul Express has

795
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: been chugging now that we've started to extend the amount

796
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: of plays we put out. We've been above five hundred

797
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: every week since we've done that. So let's go down

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00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: the list some games that we're already on. These have moved.

799
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: I hope you got on them early. Notre Dame minus

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00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: fifteen and a half, Virginia plus twelve and a half.

801
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: A lot of question out there about whether Armstrong quarterback

802
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: is going to play for Virginia. To be clear, we

803
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: like the number either way. You know by now we

804
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: do not hesitate playing on backup quarterbacks Virginia. You can

805
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: get a number better than twelve and a half out

806
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: there right now, we think we don't need it, so

807
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: I'm happy with twelve and a half. So we're taking

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00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: Virginia Minnesota minus six and a half. That is seven.

809
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: Now take it at seven. We gave it out early

810
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: for a reason. We wanted it at six and a half.

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00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: All right. Here are the games that we added at

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00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: late kick Josh, Twitter and Instagram. We put these out

813
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: last night. Lines have moved big time. That's why we

814
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: put them out last night. We got Central Michigan plus

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00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: two and a half. That line is now Central Michigan

816
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: minus one. It crossed zero. We still like the chips,

817
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: but I gotta be real with you, it would not

818
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: be an official play for us at one. It is

819
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: plus two and a half. That game is tomorrow night.

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00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: By the way, Eastern Michigan is playing right now, they

821
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: are plus five and a half. We got them at

822
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: plus five and a half. And also tomorrow night. We've

823
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: got three weeknight games here so far Northern Illinois minus

824
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: one and a half at Buffalo, so we got Eastern

825
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: Michigan plan now plus five and a half. We got

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00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois minus one and a half, Central Michigan plus

827
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: two and a half, Minnesota minus six and a half,

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00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: Virginia plus twelve and a half, Notre Dame minus fifteen

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Speaker 1: and a half. And it's only Tuesday. I would imagine

830
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: double digit plays again this week. I would confidently predict

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00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: that we will be in the double digits. I need

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Speaker 1: one favor, probably two favors. I never ask for one

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Speaker 1: and limit it to one. I need you to subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the channel for the simple reason that seventy eight

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Speaker 1: the other thing I need you to do, even though

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00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: we're still in the top ten, I want to be

839
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: in the top five. Why not in overall football podcast?

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00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: Let's get those five star reviews over two thousand and

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