1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Ahead on American Sunrise early edition. We had another day 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: filled with new revelations alleging intentional misinformation from the Obama 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: administration about Russia and the Trump campaign. The list of 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: potential conspirators is a familiar one, but there weren't any 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: new revelations in the Jeffrey Epstein case, as a federal 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: judge in Florida refuses a Trump administration request to release 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Epstein case grand jury transcripts, while the New York federal 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: judge asks to do the same thing, also keep everything 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: under seal. An Idaho judge sentence his college student killer 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Brian Coburger to life in prison with no chance of parole, 11 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: and then the judge asks America to never think of 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Coburger again, with pleasure, your honor. The Health and Human 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Services Department acknowledges a new report showing egregious ethical violation 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: in America's organ transplant programs, including charges that organ donations 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: were started on patients who still showed signs of life. 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: And the stock markets keep soaring to new highs, but 17 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: there's still a big roadblock for America's economy, and it's 18 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: definitely stopping us from our drive back to dominance. Have 19 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: you checked home prices lately? American Sunrise Early Edition begins now. 20 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition, the show where faith, freedom, 21 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: and the values that built this nation takes centers to. 22 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: Your good deeds and bad deeds. That's how we're gonna 23 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: judge you. 24 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: Join host Jake Novak because he breaks down the stories 25 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: that matter. 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: We will be letting the public know regularly what we 27 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: have found. 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: American Sunrise Early Edition with your host Jake Novak, starts now. 29 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: Welcome, It's already Thursday here in American Sunrise Early Edition. 30 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm Jake Novak. Thank you so much for joining us again. 31 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: An eventful late evening, going to overnight hours in the news. 32 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: We're going to get to all of it. Joining me 33 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: now to help me do that is the state director 34 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: of the Florida Conservative Caucus, David Pollock. And David, not 35 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: all government lies catch fire. Before we even talk about 36 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: some of the latest developments, I want to let everyone 37 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: understand and to remember the playing field. So not all 38 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: the lies that the governments tell us, the statists tell 39 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: us ever actually catch fire. But let's just watch a 40 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: brief example of how unfortunately successful the Democrats and some 41 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: disgruntled Republicans and the legacy news media works and how 42 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: successfully they worked to promote a false narrative. Check it out. 43 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: Here's a little montage. 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: Russia hacking the election to elect Trump? 45 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: What is the end of our pockras? Three votes were 46 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: definitely effective. 47 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: But you're Russia hacked the election to tilted to mister Trump. 48 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: The Russians definitively hacked the election. Russia did hack the election, 49 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: no doubt. 50 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: The Russians hacked the election. Yes, Russia hacked the election. 51 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 5: Packed Russia hacked the election. 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: President elect Donald Trump still not sounding convinced that Russia 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: hacked the election. 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 6: The President does not want to come to terms with 55 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 6: the fact that the Russians hacked the election. 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: President Trump says he still wonders if if the Russians 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: hacked the elections. 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 7: If you can get them to accept that Russia hacked 59 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 7: the election, See if you can get them to accept 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 7: who won the Civil War? 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: David, you know it's not funny anymore. I mean, it 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: never was funny, but you can see this is by 63 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: the way, it's not like any of the revelations and 64 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: the hard evidence over the last what eight years has 65 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: changed the minds of enough people who remain deluded, remain brainwashed. 66 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Did everyone tries to get a little influence into an 67 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: election by posting stuff on social media. But you can 68 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: see the narrative there. They believe that literally Russia is 69 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: the reason why Trump won the twenty sixteen election. They 70 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: still believe this, and it is tearing America apart even today. 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 8: Not joke, David, Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not shocked 72 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 8: that the information came out. 73 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: We all knew this happened. 74 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 8: It's just one of the many conspiracy theories that weren't 75 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 8: theories at all. There are conspiracy observations. And then what 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 8: we the benefit of having Tulci Gabbert, who again isn't 77 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 8: a Republican, Well she is now, but it wasn't a Republican, 78 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 8: the benefit of her coming out as the Director of 79 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 8: National Intelligence and saying, hey, we have this information that 80 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 8: Barack Obama worked with his intelligence apparatus to release information 81 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 8: that made it look like Russia interfered with our election 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 8: in order to kind of disrupt the narrative that Trump won. 83 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Legitimately. 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 8: I mean, we all had this suspicion and then it 85 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 8: was proven to be true. Now a lot of people 86 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 8: want people to go to jail, and I've been talking 87 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 8: a lot about this and why that's probably not going 88 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 8: to happen, and they're probably going to say that Pam 89 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 8: Bondi failed again and she didn't do her job because 90 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 8: people are not getting arrested. 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: A lot of people want to see Barack Obama arrested. 92 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 8: There's a lot of legal reasons why probably nobody's going 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 8: to go to jail for this, But the reality is 94 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 8: the fact that the truth. 95 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: Is coming out. 96 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 8: What it does is it legitimizes a lot of people's 97 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 8: concern over the way Barack Obama and his intelligence organizations 98 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 8: were conducting themselves in the wake of the twenty sixteen election. 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 8: And so the best thing that can come out of this, 100 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 8: obviously it'd be great if there was some real accountability 101 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 8: and somebody was indicted because of this, But the most 102 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 8: likely outcome is at least we can create a sense 103 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 8: of awareness and maybe use Congress to put some protections 104 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 8: in place to avoid something like this ever happening again. 105 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Elsea Gabbertt, So I want to have 106 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: everyone listen to what she had to say yesterday. This 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: is a new aspect of this Now, a couple of 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: days ago, we learned that President Obama assembled a team 109 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: and basically pushed the narrative. But she got into the 110 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: nitty gritty a little bit yesterday, explaining how John Brennan, 111 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: the CIA director at the time, went out of his 112 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: way to ignore what even his own subordinates at the 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: CAA were trying to tell him. Listen to this. 114 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 5: Legence Committee's oversite report reveals that CIA Director Brennan overruled 115 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 5: senior CIA officers who challenged the Obama ordered intelligence assessment, 116 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 5: stating quote, we don't have direct information that Putin wanted 117 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 5: to get Trump elected. Yet the Obama directed assessment was 118 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 5: published on January sixth, twenty seventeen, which explicitly stated, quote, 119 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 5: we assess Putin and the Russian government aspired to help 120 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 5: President elect Trump's election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary 121 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 5: Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: Now, David, this goes beyond trying to shove a square 123 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: peg in a round hole. And for those of you 124 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: who have studied the intelligence community and governments over the years, 125 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: especially in military situations, this is a familiar story to you. 126 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: A government agency or a leader comes to a conclusion 127 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: without evidence first, and then make sure that the very 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: expensive and sometimes the lives too of people are expended 129 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: to prove what they already can included without looking at 130 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: the evidence. We have the same story with the Battle 131 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: of the Bulge. The Pentagon at the time didn't believe 132 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: the Germans could counterattack us, and so they just ignored 133 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: all the Enigma intercepts that told us that the Germans 134 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: were going to counterattack. The Israelis before them, Kipper War 135 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: had someone telling them that the Egyptians were about to attack. 136 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: They ignored it because they thought, nope, they're not strong enough. 137 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Same thing here. John Brenna says, I want to say 138 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: that Russia interfered with the election, and I don't care 139 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: what the data says. You know, it's not only annoying 140 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: because this person did this, But remember, David, we spend 141 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: billions of dollars on the apparatus to help us find 142 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: out what the truth is, only to have some government 143 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: appointee who's really unaccountable really at the end of the day, 144 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: decide that he wants to think what he wants to think. 145 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: It's infuriating. 146 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, but at every example you just used really 147 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 8: cites arrogance and negligence. 148 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: This wasn't that at all. 149 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 8: I mean, you have to go back to the twenty 150 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 8: sixteen election when Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were at 151 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 8: the debate. I'll never forget this when Hillary Clinton turns 152 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 8: and says, well, that's because you have ties with whoever 153 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 8: she said about Russia, and then Trump looks at her 154 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 8: and he's like Russia. He's like, what are you talking 155 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 8: about Russia? This narrative was set even during the election. 156 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 8: This was planned before even Trump won, and then they 157 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 8: prepared just in case Trump won, to put this narrative 158 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 8: out there because just after, don't forget Hillary Clinton went 159 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 8: on that an apology tour talking about how Trump didn't 160 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 8: win legitimately it was Russia, Russia, Russia. And then not 161 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 8: only did they just create this narrative that Russia somehow 162 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 8: helped Trump win the election because they didn't want the 163 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 8: public to believe that they didn't want the government that 164 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 8: Hillary Clinton wanted to shove down their throats. But then 165 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 8: they go and work with foreign intelligence to produce a 166 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 8: fake dossier, then use that dossier to get Paiza Warrens 167 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 8: to spy on a US President and then take that 168 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 8: information and then use that to get Jeff Sessins to 169 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 8: recuse himself, and then the two year Mueller investigation, costing 170 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 8: hundreds of millions of dollars to taxpayer, the subsequent impeachment, 171 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 8: and let's not forget the eight or nine or ten 172 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 8: indictments of innocent people who are just working in Trump's orbits. 173 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 8: They got them for lying to the FBI about the 174 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 8: Russian investigation, people like George Popadopolis and people like I mean, 175 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 8: this wasn't just negligence or arrogance. This was an operation 176 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 8: used to undermine the president of the United States after 177 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 8: a US election. 178 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: That's insane. Yeah, it is. I have another bad feeling 179 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: this morning because once again I served all the mainstream 180 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: news media outlets. They're burying this story. It's hardly there, 181 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: and some of them don't even report it at all, 182 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: which is just incredible. I mean, at least do some 183 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: pushback on it. They're not doing that. Of course, a 184 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: lot of them are leading with the Epstein story. Now 185 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: that there's a picture of Donald Trump at a wedding 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein also attended thirty years ago, they think 187 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: they've got him I mean, it's really silly, but I 188 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: gotta say I'm also disappointed because you had this Florida judge, 189 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: Will judge in Florida deciding not to unseal the Epstein 190 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: case transcripts. There this will probably I had got a 191 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: feeling the New York federal judge is going to do 192 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: the same thing. And obviously the Trump team wants these 193 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: transcripts released just to show that you can't do guilt 194 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: by association. There's no criminal record of Trump together with 195 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: e F scene in any way, and on and on 196 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: down the line. And I got a feeling, you know, David, 197 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm not doing a conspiracy theory thing here, but it 198 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: does feel like those judges feel like they'll get bolstered 199 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: in their legal and left wing community if they don't 200 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: release these transfers. I don't know who they're protecting. I mean, 201 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: they can redact the names of victims. That's not a problem, 202 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: that's not what we were looking for. But I got a 203 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: bad feeling about this. I don't think we're going to 204 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: get anywhere near the information we would all like to see. 205 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, the Epstein files. 206 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 8: We had a historic, one big, beautiful bill pass and 207 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 8: then days later, on the eve of Bebing that Yahoo 208 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 8: coming to the United States to discuss a piece between 209 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 8: Israel and Gaza. Of course is memo leaks, And we've 210 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 8: been talking about nothing ever since. 211 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: And I understand why. 212 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 8: Look with this respect to the Epstein files and what's 213 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 8: going to be released and whether or not Trump would 214 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 8: be in it, and whether or not he knows Epstein, 215 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 8: it is no secret that Trump knows Epstein. 216 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: Look, they're in photos together. They used to socialize in 217 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: the same circles, as did a lot of people. 218 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 8: This guy operated in the most elite circles in the 219 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 8: country for twenty years. There's a lot of people with 220 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 8: pictures of Epstein. And then we talk about the files 221 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 8: generically like, oh, well, Trump's in the files, Well what 222 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 8: is the files investigations? Don't forget Trump was one of 223 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 8: the people who wanted to see Epstein prosecuted, So his 224 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 8: name's going to appear somewhere if you hung out with 225 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 8: him at a party, if they know similar people this 226 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 8: you could be chasing the files narrative into the abyss, 227 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 8: trying to point a finger between Donald Trump and Epstein, 228 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 8: which is what everybody's trying to do. If there was 229 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 8: anything incriminating about Donald Trump in the quote unquote Epstein files. 230 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 8: It would have been made public when Joe Biden was 231 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 8: president and his DOJ was investigating the Epstein files. So look, yes, 232 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 8: I know people want to see things released, but think 233 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 8: about how prejudicial releasing information that people just Oh, yeah, 234 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 8: Donald Trump was at a party with Epstein twenty years ago. 235 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: Sure, let's put that out unreducted. Who is he with 236 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: Let's put all those names out there too. Let's have 237 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: a witch. 238 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 8: Hunt in this country where we just accuse people of 239 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 8: doing inappropriate things just because they happen to be in 240 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 8: a social circle with Epstein. And that's the problem. That's 241 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 8: a slippery slope. This just creates information that could be used. 242 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 8: It can be essentially weaponized by the left as a 243 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 8: narrative to attack people ongoing in all of perpetuity. 244 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: So look, nobody. 245 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 8: If there's not enough information, so DJ said, there's not 246 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 8: enough information to prosecute anybody. 247 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Else, well that's it. 248 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 8: If there's civil lawsuits and you can get information, put 249 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 8: that out there in public. And if Congress wants to 250 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 8: bring Maxwell in front of a committee and get information 251 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 8: from her, if people want to do FOI requests and 252 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 8: get more information and produce more evidence and maybe results 253 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 8: and more arrests. 254 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: Then so be it, go and do it. 255 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 8: But the fact that we're not paying attention to all 256 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 8: of President Trump's huge wins and all of the things 257 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 8: that keep going well for the American people, and keep 258 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 8: going back to this Epstein thing, it's a giant distraction. 259 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 8: And one more point on this, if you need any 260 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 8: more proof that this is not only a distraction but 261 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 8: an operation by the left to hurt Donald Trump. Every 262 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 8: time you talk about something positive, everybody says what immediately. 263 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: Well, where's the files? Trump's in the Epstein files. Release 264 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: the files. 265 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 8: It really is nothing but a distraction campaign the left 266 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 8: of seizing on it. But we're going to move on 267 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 8: and we're going to keep celebrating President Trump's wins heading 268 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 8: into twenty twenty six. 269 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: Well, this is similar to my defense about going to 270 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: Jets games just because the Jets are awful. There were 271 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: eighty one thousand other people at that game too. Don't 272 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: try to smear me with that same brush. All right, 273 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: David Paula, thank you so much for joining us. It's Thursday, 274 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: but have a great weekend. Thanks for having me. All 275 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure. Okay, coming up, what the heck are 276 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,599 Speaker 1: hospitals in America doing when it comes to identifying patients 277 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: and starting them on the process of donating organs. I'll 278 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,119 Speaker 1: have a disturbing update on that. And why are American 279 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: car makers crying foul over the new US Japan trade deal. 280 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: Maybe they shouldn't have complained. I think they scored an 281 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: old goal on themselves. I'll talk about it in just 282 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: a second when American Sunrise Early Edition continues. This is 283 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: a live shot of Birmingham, England, the Black Sabbath Bridge, 284 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: which is named after the band, and of course fans 285 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: starting to gather. I've been gathering pretty regularly since the 286 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: death of Ozzy Osbourne earlier this week, all got all 287 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: those flowers. Talk about someone who had a lot of 288 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: different incredible iterations in culture, in music culture in America. 289 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: His biggest hits came at a time where a lot 290 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: of radio stations wouldn't play Black Sabbath or Ozzy Osbourne 291 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: at all. It was just something we talked about when 292 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: I was an element school and then in high school. 293 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: But there you go a lot of There's going to 294 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: be a lot of tributes to this guy as we 295 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: continue to remember that career and of course recreating himself 296 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: or at least reintroducing himself to America in that in 297 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: that reality show on MTV. Welcome back to American Sunrise 298 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: Early Edition. I'm Jake Novac. Thank you so much for 299 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: joining us on the Ghetter and rumble chats. Really disturbing 300 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: story here right now, Robert F. Kennedy, Junior's Health and 301 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: Human Services Department is putting America's entire organ transplant procedures 302 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: under review. The reason one major group, the Organ Procurement 303 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: and Transplantation Network OPTN, has allegedly been jumping the gun 304 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to starting the organ donation process. Now, 305 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: the HHS says that in one year alone, there were 306 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: one hundred and three cases, which is twenty nine point 307 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: three percent of the whole organ transplant situation. That a 308 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: number of cases in the country. For that year, there 309 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: were seventy three patients who showed neurological signs that were 310 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: incompatible with organ donation. Now, there are some other hard 311 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: questions to ask about this story. Was it just a 312 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: case of people jumping the gun generically every time? Maybe 313 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: they just did it a little bit too quick, or 314 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: were there certain kinds of patients that had this process 315 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: started on them that it wouldn't have happened if they 316 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: were a different kind of patient. In other words, were 317 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: these people economically wealthy, were these people coming from certain 318 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: minority groups. If we find out that this organization was 319 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: targeting poor patients and starting them on this process when 320 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: most doctors in the medical guidelines are not to start it, 321 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: at that point, we've got a really big, big problem 322 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: in America, and RFK Junior is blowing the whistle on it. 323 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: So let's hope that this goes well. We certainly want 324 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: our health system to be ethical, and a lot of 325 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: people who don't approve of organ donations. Sometimes they're called 326 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: religious fanatics, but maybe they had a point. If we're 327 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: going to encourage people to start these processes before the 328 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: actual patient is on its way, on their way definitely 329 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: to death, we have a huge, huge problem, all right. 330 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: I hope they look into this. I know they are. 331 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: I hope they find a solution. Okay. Columbia University has 332 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: been busy this week trying to satisfy demands from the 333 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: Trump administration to fix the school's anti semitism problem. Now 334 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: On Tuesday, the school finally suspended and also expelled just 335 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: about everybody involved in this student riot at the main 336 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: Columbia University library just during finals week. That was just 337 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: back in May, not that long ago, so they did that. Now, 338 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: yesterday Columbia settled with the Trump administration. Are going to 339 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: pay more than two hundred million dollars in fines. Now 340 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: under the terms of the deal, Columbia does not admit 341 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: any wrongdoing, but the Trump administration will reinstate. As part 342 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: of this deal, many of the billions of dollars of 343 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: federal funding received by the university. Now we could just 344 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: play the math game with this. They were basically paying 345 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: one dollar to get ten dollars back because it was 346 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: a two hundred million dollar deal that they paid to 347 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: the government to just cure two point two billion dollars 348 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: of funding. So you can play that game. But I 349 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 1: also think Columbia is dealing with another issue, which is 350 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: if this ever went before the courts, people would see 351 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: that there is a two tiered system of justice or 352 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: a civil rights at Columbia. Everybody knows. Please don't pretend 353 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: we don't all know that if this were gay students 354 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: or African American students who are being harassed this way 355 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: and people getting in their faces. Every one of those 356 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: students doing that would have been expelled immediately. Wouldn't have 357 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: taken years to do this. We all know this to 358 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: be true. Please don't be naive. Now that got before 359 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: a court of law and a jury, they would have lost. 360 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: So they're basically paying the government off. Trump administration ought 361 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: to avoid that, and hopefully they'll learn their lesson about this. 362 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: If you're gonna have civil rights for students, you got 363 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: to extend it to everybody, period, full stop. Okay, coming up, 364 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: we all know about Trump rallies, but there's another kind 365 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: of Trump rally going on right now on Wall Street. 366 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a check on Wall Street in just 367 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: a minute to see if that rally and the green 368 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: arrows are back this morning. And the new trade deal 369 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: between the US and Japan really made the stock market happy. 370 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: But why aren't the Detroit automakers cheering? They should have, 371 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: or at least they should have kept their mouthshot when 372 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: American Sunrise Early edition returns, All right, Crazy Train, which 373 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: is a song you hear everywhere now at stadiums. I mean, 374 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: it is like wallpaper in America. That song was released 375 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty and it did not get radio playtime 376 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: very much because there was this whole pushback on Black Sabbath. 377 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: This was Ozzy Osbourne as a solo act. I did 378 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: not hear this song in the radio as a kid. 379 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: Kids had the tape, kids had the album. That's how 380 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: we heard it, all right, Welcome back to American Sunrise 381 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: Early edition is the Thursday. Let's take a look at 382 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: where the markets are they going to be on a 383 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: crazy train today? Well, there is a little something crazy. 384 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: You rarely see this. You rarely see the Dow down. 385 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: The Dow futures down by exactly, almost exactly as much 386 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: as the Nasdaq futures are up. That's what we call 387 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: a mixed open on the street. I'll explain a little 388 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: bit more about why that's happening today. But we are 389 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: at all time highs on the NASAQ, on the S 390 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: and B five hundred. The Dow is very close to 391 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: its all time high after a big rally yesterday. The 392 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Dow was up more than five hundred points yesterday. Crude 393 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: oil very tame. It's up this morning by almost one percent, 394 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: but it's still only at the sixty five dollars barrel level. 395 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: This has been a great summer for gas prices, hasn't it, folks. 396 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: And let's take a look at bitcoin and see if 397 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: it's still in that one seventeen to one twenty one window. 398 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: And sure it is one eighteen seven, so we're still 399 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: in that window. You'll be the first to know when 400 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: we break out of it. The big tech companies. Somebody 401 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: explain why the Nasdaq futures are up because the NASAG 402 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: is very tech heavy and the big tech companies seemed 403 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: to be doing just fine, by the way, thanks to 404 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: h And let's take a look at Google, because Google 405 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: reported its financial numbers after the closing bell yesterday. Now 406 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: they reveal that it beat Wall Street's estimates for profits 407 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: and revenues. That's money coming in. And here's the thing though, 408 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: that got everyone really excited and why Google shares are 409 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: up this morning. Google is going to increase its spending. 410 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: Now that's not because their costs are going up necessarily, 411 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: although they probably are just a little bit, but it's 412 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: because they're spending more and more on AI. And Wall 413 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: Street loves hearing about big tech companies spending more on 414 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. It's a new growth part of our economy, 415 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: and Wall Street loves hearing about how everyone is putting 416 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: massive money into it. And when they hear about stories 417 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: about Chinese AI companies doing things cheaper, they freak out. 418 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: So they like hearing about Google spending more. That's why 419 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: the tech shares are up this morning. All right, One 420 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: big tech company though, that is not so happy right now. 421 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: It's really an automotive company. Sorry. I'll talk about tech 422 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: is Tesla, and Tesla has had some bad numbers, and 423 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: I'll talk about that in Moving America in just a second. 424 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: But I want to talk about Microsoft. 425 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 7: Now. 426 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: Microsoft didn't join in the party and hasn't joined in 427 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: the party this week in the tech rally. That's because 428 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: Microsoft is getting hacked. They have now I identified at 429 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: least four hundred major victims, clients, customers of Microsoft who 430 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: have been victimized by what they say are is a 431 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: Chinese criminal operation to cyber attack Microsoft. So Microsoft only 432 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: was up by zero point one percent yesterday, when some 433 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: of the other tech companies were up multiple percentage points. 434 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: By the way, one of the victims hold on to, 435 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, hold on to something, is the US Nuclear 436 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: Regulatory Agency Boy what could go wrong there. A lot 437 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: of these big tech companies that have defense contracts or 438 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: sensitive contracts like with the Nuclear Regulatory Agency, are going 439 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: to get audited for how well they're keeping up with 440 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: their cybersecurity efforts, and if they fail, they should lose 441 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: their contracts. That's my opinion. Here's an example, though, of 442 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: the broken law of supply and demand in America. Right now, 443 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: home prices are soaring and they reached another record high, 444 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: and of course they're all expensive also because of mortgage 445 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: rates at multi year highs. That mortgage rate is being 446 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: very stubborn. We're still stuck between six point eight percent 447 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: and seven percent on mortgages. Now, usually you would see 448 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: this help lower prices in America because first time home 449 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: buyers can't afford it, the demand goes down, they decide 450 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: to rent instead. But what's happening here is that a 451 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: bunch of people who are homeowners are holding out, keeping 452 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: their prices high on their homes in the hopes that 453 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: mortgage rates will go down Eventually. This can only go 454 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: on for so long, folks. We've got to get the 455 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: mortgage rates down in America. There's a number of ways 456 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: to do it, but right now it's just not happening. 457 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Remember it was just a few years ago when we 458 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: had mortgage rates in the two percent range and now 459 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: we are almost in the seven percent range. That is 460 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: a massive price. Like all right, ladies and gentlemen, start 461 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: your engines. It's moving America. Sponsored by Artillery Tea Company 462 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: artillerytco dot com. 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That would have been my advice 471 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: yesterday to the big Detroit automakers who instead decided to 472 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: use their lobbying and PR groups to complain about the 473 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: US Japan trade deal. Now here's where they went wrong. 474 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: They'd complained because now Japan, some of these Japanese companies 475 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: with their cars that are made in Japan, are going 476 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: to have less of a tariff than some of the 477 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: Detroit automakers who make their cars in places like Canada 478 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: and Mexico. And so they're basically saying, Hey, we're American companies, 479 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: why are we gonna have to pay more in tarifs 480 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: than Japan. Well, they answered their own question. You're building 481 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: American cars for US consumers, and you use things like 482 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: NAFTA to save yourself a few bucks by going just 483 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: across the border to Canada and just across the border 484 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: to Mexico. That feels like much more of a betrayal 485 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: to the American consumer and to the American worker than 486 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: a Japanese company in Japan making their cars in Japan, 487 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: or at least in Asia. I mean, don't do not see. 488 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't understand why they don't understand that they basically 489 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: scored an own goal on themselves. They're reminding the American 490 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: people that they're American companies, that are US companies that 491 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: are using NAFTA as a way to save money and 492 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: to take away jobs from American US workers. Now everyone remembers, oh, yeah, 493 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: you guys are still making cars in Mexico and trucks 494 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: in Canada. Wait a minute, why can't you do that 495 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: here in the US. They shouldn't have said anything. And 496 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: by the way, another reason why they shouldn't have said 497 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: anything is because the stocks of GM Ford and Stillantis 498 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: owned Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge or all up yesterday too. 499 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: Take the money and be quiet. This is a case 500 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: of when a PR firm and a lobbying firm tries 501 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: to justify its billable hours and does too much. Sometimes 502 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: silence is golden. Listen to me Detroit on this one, 503 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: all right. The much malign Tesla came out with its 504 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: financial report I was talking about this just a minute ago, 505 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: came out with its financial report late yesterday and for again, 506 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: this is for the April through June quarter, those three 507 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: months of the year, and the EV leader. By the way, 508 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: it's still the leader in electric vehicle sales by a 509 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: long shot in America. But they missed profit and sales expectations. Now, 510 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: Tesla is also going to cut back on production for 511 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: the US market in anticipation of Remember that seventy five 512 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: hundred dollars tax credit for buying an EV is expiring 513 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: at the end of September. Again, folks, as much as 514 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: Tesla is suffering right now, I want everyone to remember 515 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: it is still by far the number one EV seller 516 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: in America, buy a big margin. The other companies that 517 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: have some EV models here and there aren't really challenged Tesla. 518 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: It's just their market share that's getting eaten up. And 519 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: Wall Street doesn't like to see market share getting eaten up. 520 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: But it's still a very viable company. And remember it 521 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago in America where they said there 522 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: would never be another American auto company ever. Again, not 523 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: a big fan of evs, but you got to still 524 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: be impressed with Tesla. All right, this is something that's 525 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: quite interesting. Nebraska is now joining a lawsuit alleging that 526 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: GM has for years deceptively been collecting and selling its 527 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: customers data without their knowledge and consent. Here's how it worked. 528 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: After collecting driving data on its on Star system, remember 529 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: the on Star system, GM reportedly entered into agreements with 530 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: third party companies, a lot of them were insurance companies, 531 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: to assign a driving score to each customer. So if 532 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: you were singing songs a little bit too loudly or 533 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: breaking a little bit too hard, a bunch of other 534 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: companies knew about it, and you got a low driving score. 535 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't know where I came in on that one 536 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: for singing along to Abba. I promise that's not my favorite. 537 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: I promise I'm more of an Ozzie fan. Just kidding. 538 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, this is Nebraska joining into this lawsuit. Folks, 539 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: you know our phones are listening to you. You know 540 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: your cars are listening to you, and they sell it 541 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: to other companies and sometimes it can cost you money 542 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: while they make money off of your information. I think 543 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: the courts are going to come down pretty hard on 544 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: GM and any other company being found to do this, 545 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: and I think this is going to be a whole 546 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: new area for law firms and the legal community in 547 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 1: the coming years. Just we'll keep an eye on it 548 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: all right now for a law, but there are some 549 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: laws I think we can all get behind, no pun intended. 550 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: They ever been behind someone in the left lane who 551 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: just won't get out of the left lane on the 552 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: highway and they're just driving so slow. Listen, it's no joke. 553 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: It's not just about you want to be wanting to 554 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: be a leadfoot. These people cause accidents because they get 555 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: people aggressively passing them in the right lane, which is 556 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: not safe to do. You guys know the story. Well, 557 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: the state of Connecticut, which I didn't think was a 558 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: state that was actually interested in protecting drivers all that much. 559 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: But okay, the state of Connecticut has now enacted a 560 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: new law. Well they're going to enact it in a year. 561 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: They're going to give the drivers in Connecticut a year 562 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: to get used to this. But the cops in Connecticut 563 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: now will have much more latitude to slap tickets on 564 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: people who are hanging out in the left lane, either 565 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: just at the speed limit or below, and giving them 566 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: a severe fine. So get out of the left lane, please, 567 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: if you're not going to be going fast or passing someone. Please, 568 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: It's for everyone's safety, not just because I need to 569 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: get to somewhere, all right. Coming up, we have more 570 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: news and more revelations from Tulca Gabbard about the desperate 571 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: efforts by the Obama team to gin up the Russian 572 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: collusion narrative. It would be a joke, but it's not 573 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: a joke because so many people still believe it, and 574 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: they drive that crazy train. And there is a permanent 575 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: solution to securing our border that's really right under our nose, 576 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: is there. Well, I'm gonna ask an expert in Texas. 577 00:29:45,560 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: When American Sunrise Early Edition continues, It's Thursday, July twenty fourth. 578 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Here this morning's top stories. We had another day filled 579 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: with new revelations alleging intentional misinformation from the Obama administration 580 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: about Russia and the Trump campaign. The list of potential 581 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: conspiratories is a familiar one, folks. But there weren't any 582 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: new revelations in the Jeffrey Epstein case, as a federal 583 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: judge in Florida refused a Trump administration request to release 584 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: Epstein case grand jury transcripts. Will the New York federal 585 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: judge asked to do the same thing, also keep everything 586 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: under cl we probably will. An Idaho judge sentences college 587 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: student killer Brian Coburger to life in prison with no 588 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: chance of parole, and then the judge asks all of 589 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: America to never think of Coburger again, with pleasure, your honor. 590 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: And the Health and Human Services Department acknowledges a new 591 00:30:54,520 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: report showing egregious ethical violations in America's Oregon transplant program, 592 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: including charges at organ donations were started on patients who 593 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: still showed signs of life. American Sunrise Early Edition continues 594 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: now Welcome back to this Thursday on American Sunrise Early 595 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: Edition special. Welcome to those of you on the Getter 596 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: and the rumble Chats who are up early and commenting 597 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: on all the news in this program. Thank you so 598 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: much for joining us. Also joining us right now is 599 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: Texas Public Policy Foundation senior fellow Ammon Blair. And Emmon, 600 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about illegal immigration, especially as some 601 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: of your solutions for it in just a second, But 602 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: first i'd like your take on the developing breaking story 603 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: of all the evidence that's come out implicating the Obama 604 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: administration and their promotion of the Russia collusion hoax, and 605 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: for all the things that the American people heard about 606 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: and heard about, all kinds of dealings, true and untrue, 607 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. The bottom line is what so 608 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: many Americans came away with was the belief that the 609 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: only reason why Donald Trump won the twenty sixteen election 610 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: was because of some kind of masterminded program by the Russians. 611 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: And this was something that millions of Americans believe then 612 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: and still believe now. I just want to let again 613 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: play this montage showing just how incredibly pervasive this delusion 614 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: was and still is an America. 615 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: Listen to this, Russia hacking the election to elect Trump? 616 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: What is the end of ours? 617 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: Every votes were definitely affected, But you're Russia hacked the 618 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: election to tilted to mister Trump. 619 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 4: The Russians definitively hacked the election. 620 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 6: Russia did hack the election, no doubt, the Russians hacked 621 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 6: the election. 622 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: Yes, Russia hacked the election. 623 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 5: Packed Russia hacked the election. 624 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: President elect Donald Trump still not sounding convinced that Russia 625 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: hacked the election. 626 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 6: The President does not want to come to terms, but 627 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 6: the fact that the Russians hacked the election. 628 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: President Trump says he still wonders if if the Russians 629 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 4: hacked the elections, if. 630 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 7: You can get them to accept that Russia hacked the election, 631 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 7: See if you can get them to accept who won 632 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 7: the civil war? 633 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: Emma, this is really a national delusion. And I'll just 634 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: say this, I'd love to get your take on it. 635 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: If there's no humility, you can't learn anything. And when 636 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: you lose an election, at least privately, there's a humbling 637 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: moment for you. This never happened in twenty sixteen, and 638 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: that is why we have a country that is still split. 639 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: No one is willing to admit they lost something, and 640 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: this is really really dangerous. 641 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 6: Your take, Yeah, Unfortunately, this is like the book nineteen 642 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 6: eighty four where narrative really wins. General Flinn talks about 643 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 6: that a lot about fifth generation warfare or narrative warfare 644 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 6: or in the military, information warfare, and so unfortunately, inputs 645 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 6: equal outputs. What are the people across the United States? 646 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 6: What are they watching right now? What are they listening to? 647 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 6: Are they listening to you, Are they listening to anyone 648 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 6: else that is actually putting out the facts, or are 649 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 6: they not listening at all? And so therefore, do they 650 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 6: still hold those same old ideas and concepts, and so 651 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 6: when they're approached with new information, you do, their cognitive 652 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 6: bias that's now been held for many years is going 653 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 6: to counter that. And so unfortunately, this is a complete 654 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 6: narrative battle that unfortunately they won in the very beginning, 655 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 6: and now we're having to try to approach it step 656 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 6: by step to try to weaponize the truth. 657 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I again, it's one thing to push back on 658 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: an election result. Of course, many Trump supporters have a 659 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: lot of evidence to back them believe that there was 660 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: some chick canery and not a massive amount of chic 661 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: canery in the twenty twenty election with all those mail 662 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: in ballots, But you didn't have the CIA going after 663 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: and creating a dossier and doing all this kind of 664 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: stuff to kind of prove things that weren't there. There's 665 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: been an investigation into it. We've learned about, for example, 666 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: that China set up using phony driver's license a lot 667 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: of mail about that's definitely worth looking into state by state. 668 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: But we don't have the director of the CIA creating 669 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: a warrant out to go a spy on Joe Biden 670 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: and his family or the DNC where the line was crossed. 671 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: That's the difference for those of you who are watching 672 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: and wondering what the difference is. All right now, I 673 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: want to get to your position paper because I like 674 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: having permanent solutions to things and not just talking about 675 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: things that are going on right now. We love what's 676 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: going on with the border right now. The Trump administration 677 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: has basically effectively ended our illegal immigration, massive, massive crisis 678 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: at the southern. 679 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 6: Everyone wants to think that Dan Crenshaw talks about this 680 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 6: all the time, that Mexico is like the nineteen nineties 681 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 6: era Columbia, where we're facing like Pablo Escobar and we're 682 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 6: facing the Median cartel. In all reality, we're dealing with 683 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 6: a rich Afghanistan to the south of US. The Mexican 684 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 6: cartels have taken over, have co opted the federal government 685 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 6: all the way down to the local level. We're not 686 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 6: dealing with the nineties era Columbia. And so because of that, 687 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 6: our law enforcement, whether that's in DHS or DOJ, outmanned, outgunned, outfunded, 688 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 6: and out maneuvered by foreign terist organizations in a nation 689 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 6: state that supports them. So at this time, unfortunately where 690 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 6: we're at, the only organization in the United States that 691 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 6: has the ability to counter foreign terist organizations in state 692 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 6: sponsored countries is the Department of Defense. And therefore, just 693 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 6: like what happened in nineteen sixteen with Pontovilla and the 694 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 6: insurgency that happened on our southern border, is going to 695 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 6: continue to happen until we actually do counter terrorism and 696 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 6: counterinsurgency against the Mexican cartels and hold Mexico accountable. 697 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: Emma, tell me if I'm right about this in this assessment, 698 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: you can pay me now or you can pay me 699 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: later type things. If there are a bunch of Democrats 700 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: and liberal groups that are angry about National Guard troops 701 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: in our cities and the migrants that are there and 702 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: trying to clear them out. Well, again, either going to 703 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: have to have them in your cities or are you 704 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: gonna have to have them at the border to keep 705 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: them out in the first place? What would you rather have? 706 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: You can have them at the border where in a 707 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: non residential areas if that's what you're worried about, or 708 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: you can have them have to be in Los Angeles. 709 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's really the kind of choice that maybe 710 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: should be presented to the American people, shouldn't it, oh? 711 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 6: One hundred percent. Unfortunately, what we're seeing is the far 712 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 6: left to activist groups, the anarchist groups are now forming 713 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 6: alliances with other organizations to attack federal la enforcement, and 714 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 6: unfortunately there's not a lot of prosecutions going on with 715 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 6: those that are assaulting the agents. Therefore, it now it 716 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 6: necessitates the National Guard going out there and protecting our 717 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 6: law enforcement so they can actually do their job. So 718 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 6: that's why the Trumpet administration said that he wanted to 719 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 6: mobilize twenty thousand troops. Really, that's what it is. It 720 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 6: is to protect our law enforcement because unfortunately, when you 721 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 6: go into La it looks like a third world country. Look, 722 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 6: you're having to wear masks like we had to in 723 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 6: the Middle East, like when we were partnered up with 724 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 6: partnering nations in the Middle East, had to wear masks 725 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 6: to protectect themselves and their families from the foreign est 726 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 6: organizations and also the corrypt governments. And so unfortunately we're 727 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 6: seeing a third world country live on our streets in 728 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 6: the United States. 729 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it shouldn't get to that point, but you know, 730 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: and memo to people like Mayor Eric Adams who complains 731 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: about the migrant situation and the costs to New York 732 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: City but never called for securing the border in the 733 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: first place. I mean, again, the cause and effect gene 734 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: didn't get to Eric Adams, I guess. And and I 735 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: want to talk about something with you that I've been 736 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: talking about for the last few days, which is this 737 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: blue city's in Red States Phenomena and Texas is a 738 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: really good example of that. You know, I have a 739 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: city like Houston where I think somebody like thirteen hundred 740 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: illegal Yeah, thirteen hundred illegal aliens were rounded up in 741 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: June alone. I mean you have a great governor in 742 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: Texas who's been trying to keep that border secure on 743 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: his own, especially when Biden was president. In Greg Abbott, 744 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of you know, the majority of voters. 745 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: This is a solid red state still, despite delusions of 746 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats that they're one day going to win it. 747 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: But if the biggest cities in Texas, like Houston are 748 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: still a free for all for illegal immigration, what does 749 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: it matter? I mean, I don't know how we deal 750 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: with this exactly. I know, obviously your solution about National 751 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: Guard at the border itself would help solve that, But 752 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: what about the leaders of cities like Houston itself who 753 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: don't want to get on board. 754 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, Unfortunately it's not just city leaders we're looking at this. 755 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 6: Let's talk about Texas. We're looking at county officials, We're 756 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 6: looking at small towns, We're not looking at law enforcement. Look, 757 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 6: there are only three municipalities in the state of Texas 758 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 6: that have actually signed an ICE agreement. 759 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: Three. 760 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 6: We have our DPS director who testified against Tom Homan's 761 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 6: plan at the eighty ninth legislature. So if you look 762 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 6: right now on ICE's website, you will see that DPS 763 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 6: we don't have any state law enforcement that is actually 764 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 6: signed on to the agreement with ICE. So whether that 765 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 6: is going to be policies like in Houston or Dallas 766 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 6: where there are quote unquote sanctuaries for illegal aliens, or 767 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 6: it's actually the Cinoble mission where they actually don't they 768 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 6: don't do anything at all. And unfortunately that's what we 769 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 6: have here. And yesterday there was a good testimony by 770 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 6: Sheriff Roy Boyd or the day prior and talking about 771 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 6: he was in Goliad County. He's a sheriff of Goliad 772 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 6: County and he's now the Operation Low Star Task Force commander. 773 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 6: You have a single sheriff having to create his own 774 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 6: task force for statewide law enforcement and mass deportation efforts. 775 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 6: And that is because we have sheriffs, we have local 776 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 6: law enforcement who are unwilling to help the Trip administration, 777 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 6: Tom Homan and Secretary Nome actually enact this plan. So 778 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 6: we may talk about Houston and large cities, but we're 779 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 6: seeing that spread throughout the entire state of Texas. 780 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just amazing. And I think that the Republican 781 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: Party and maybe even a common sense group of people 782 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: who just want better policies need to start to draft. 783 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 1: You have an actor plan to secure the border, Ammon Blair. 784 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: We need an action plan to really start addressing some 785 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: of these big cities with common sense candidates. And if 786 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: that means some of them will be Republicans, some of 787 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: it will be independent, whatever it has to be. I 788 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: don't believe that the longtime citizens of these major cities 789 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: are this deluded, are as far left as they are depicted. 790 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: But again, these elections are ginned up in many ways. 791 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about voter fraud. I'm talking about 792 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: things like getting the unions in a particular city to 793 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: vote in primaries where everyone else has to work. It's 794 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: a Tuesday in the middle of the week and there's 795 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 1: a major primary, and every union worker in the city 796 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: has the day off not only to go vote, but 797 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: to election year. We've got to find a way to 798 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: level that playing field, am And Blair Texas Public Policy 799 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: and says to thank you so much for joining us. 800 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. I know it's only Thursday, but 801 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: I jumped the gun. That's my problem, all right, having 802 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: me all right, I appreciate it. Coming up. Columbia University 803 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: agrees to pay more than two hundred million bucks in 804 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: fines to the Trump administration. David Brody and I will 805 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: discuss the one argument that probably served as the tipping 806 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: point in this story. When American Sunrise Early Edition continues 807 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: live shot of Philadelphia this morning, and that intersection just 808 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: drives me crazy. From this spantage point, I just don't 809 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: see how there are more accidents. But okay, everyone be 810 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: safe out there in Philly so that you can be 811 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: healthy enough to go beat each other up at tailgates 812 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: at Eagles games, because you know that's what you really 813 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: want to do over there. Just kidding. Welcome back to 814 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: American Sunrise Certainly Edition. I'm Jake Novak. It is a Thursday. 815 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: Let me remind you of the following scenario, just for 816 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: everyone who might be a little confused about this. If 817 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: a white student from South Africa was a new incoming 818 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: student at the University of Alabama and the first thing 819 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: he did was contact the local KKK to arrange marches 820 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: and rallies and to harass black students on campus, I 821 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: think everyone in America, at least ninety five percent of us, 822 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: would be in favor of deporting that student or at 823 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: least punishing that student, expelling that student. So why do 824 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 1: we allow people coming from the Middle East, places like Syria, 825 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: places like Lebanon, places like Saudi Arabia to come to 826 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: our American campuses and harass the Jewish students immediately get 827 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: together with Prohamas organizations in a particular city and do 828 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: this again. We all see the double standard. And that 829 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: is why, as I bring David Brody in to discuss, 830 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: that is why Columbia University is finally decided to cough 831 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: up two hundred million dollars. Yes, they're spending one dollar 832 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: to get ten dollars back, because that two hundred million 833 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: dollars will secure two point two billion dollars in federal funding. 834 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have wanted to go in front of 835 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: a jury in a civil case, definitely not a criminal case, 836 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: in front of a jury in New York City, even 837 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: in New York City, liberal in New York City, and 838 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: have a lawyer go after them, a plaintiff's lawyer, and 839 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: say that same scenario, because we know if these were 840 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: black students, or if these were gay students who were 841 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: being specifically targeted by a so called student, really an 842 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: activist sent over here to bother us that the jury, 843 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: even in New York wouldn't be very wouldn't be very 844 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: comfortable with that. David, I think that was really the 845 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: scenario that got them in trouble. And Harvard better be 846 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: listening because there's a Boston jury that's going to hear 847 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: the same argument unless they make a deal too. Well, 848 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. 849 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a more than a warning shot. 850 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 3: There is clearly a price to pay, literally a price 851 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: to pay. Okay, it's a drop in the bucket, but 852 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 3: it's a warning shot to not just Columbia, but to 853 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 3: Harvard and many others to say this will not be tolerated. 854 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: And I'm glad the Trump administration is doing this. 855 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: You know. 856 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 3: One of the things to me that was interesting beyond 857 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 3: the money. Forget the money for a second, but they 858 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 3: are actually going to Now part of this deal codifies 859 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 3: into their whatever there is or ordinances I say ordinances, 860 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: their chapter, their their rules and regulations there at Columbia, 861 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 3: that they the Middle East curriculum will be reviewed. 862 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: Which I think is interesting. 863 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 3: Now whatever that means and how that takes shape, I mean, 864 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 3: I think that's a story worth monitoring in the future. 865 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,919 Speaker 1: The point is is that it's not just about money. 866 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 3: We know, it's never really been about money, even though 867 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 3: that makes the headlines. It really is what in the 868 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 3: world are they doing as it relates to disciplinary reactions, 869 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 3: which is also codified and lost some new disciplinary reactions. 870 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,399 Speaker 3: We'll see if Columbia abides by it, and we'll see 871 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: how much they can skirt it. But at least there 872 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 3: is a step in the right direction. And to me, 873 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 3: this is just putting higher Ed all of these liberal 874 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 3: institutions on notice to say not on our watch, not 875 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 3: on our watch. 876 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, look, Columbia was always a liberal institution. 877 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: I get that. But when you talk about the Middle 878 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: East Studies department, listen, I graduated Columbia thirty three years ago. 879 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: I was a international politics major. I took a lot 880 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: of courses and they were plenty of professors in that 881 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: department who were common sense, who were very, very scholarly, 882 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: and did not basically make the entire curriculum bashing Israel. 883 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: There is nobody like that now in the program. I 884 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: understand there are some other maybe some teaching assistants, I 885 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 1: don't know, but there's nobody like that. We had people 886 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: like Elie Kaduri, who was you know, passed away at 887 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: a young age, who was an incredible scholar. We had 888 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 1: people like that there, and yes there was a Rabble 889 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: Rouser two, but I gotta tell you there was nothing 890 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: like this. And Columbia was plenty liberal back then too. 891 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure that in the nineteen eighty eight election they 892 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: went ninety percent, you know it for Michael Ducoccus. So honestly, 893 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: it's possible we can get back to sanity. And if 894 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: you want to stay sane, stick with us. For the 895 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: next two hours. We have American sun Rise with David T. 896 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: Bates and Doctor g and I'll be with you in 897 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: the nine am hour this time. Speak to you again 898 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: on this show tomorrow at second