WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Is Everything OK with Tony Pollard?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 7>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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<v Speaker 7>Were on with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Patrick Walker

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<v Speaker 7>and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 8>It is Thursday, November ninth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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<v Speaker 8>episode number sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 8>We're live from SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star and

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<v Speaker 8>today we're gonna get you guys ready. Continue to get

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<v Speaker 8>you guys ready for Cowboys versus Giants. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 8>the Giants defense versus the Cowboys offense. We got some

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<v Speaker 8>injury updates that we will get to here in.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a moment.

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<v Speaker 8>It's some interesting comments by Mike McCarthy regarding Yrence Smith.

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<v Speaker 8>Will talk about that as well, real quick, if you

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<v Speaker 8>guys will indulge me here at the beginning the show,

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<v Speaker 8>I just want to take a chance to wish a

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<v Speaker 8>very happy birthday to very special woman in my life,

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<v Speaker 8>my mommy.

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<v Speaker 4>Heym Happy birthday, to my mom.

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<v Speaker 8>I know she's listening because as your mom does, Brian,

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<v Speaker 8>I know if there's only one that's going to listen

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<v Speaker 8>to show.

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<v Speaker 4>My mom is listening every single day.

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<v Speaker 8>And as she told me this morning, she was like,

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<v Speaker 8>I really don't care what anybody else has to say.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just listening to see my baby.

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<v Speaker 8>So hey, mom, happy birthday, Happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, So here we go. Let's get in.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's talk about the injury report. There were four guys

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<v Speaker 8>on the injury report.

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<v Speaker 9>Real quick. Since she's listening, she's done a good job

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<v Speaker 9>on her son, teaching him how to be a gentleman.

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<v Speaker 9>I will say this one thing that Derek does every

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<v Speaker 9>single time to any female. He will open the door

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<v Speaker 9>and let you walk and go in first. So total gentleman.

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<v Speaker 9>So good job.

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<v Speaker 10>Even face of the daily adversity he gets from his

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<v Speaker 10>left side, he remains staunch a gentleman.

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<v Speaker 8>My mom taught me well, no doubt about it. All right,

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<v Speaker 8>So let's jump in. Let's talk about these injuries. There

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<v Speaker 8>were four guys on the injury report. You have Marquise

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<v Speaker 8>Bell with a calf injury, also Diggie Zoo with a

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<v Speaker 8>hamstring injury. Both of them were limited. Yren Smith did

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<v Speaker 8>not practice with an illness. Cavante Turpin did not practice

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<v Speaker 8>with that shoulder, which I don't know what it's weird

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<v Speaker 8>because and now shoulders, so I don't know what it is,

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<v Speaker 8>but he's got something going on. Let's talk about those

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<v Speaker 8>injuries and kind of what we're expecting as the week progressive.

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<v Speaker 10>So right now in the conversations, I've had Marquise Bell

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<v Speaker 10>with his calf and OsO Diggi Zoo hamstring. Not a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of concern there from the Cowboys. Yesterday was a

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<v Speaker 10>walkthrough for Dallas. Testament to what Mike McCarthy said earlier

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<v Speaker 10>this week is that this Wednesday was set to be

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<v Speaker 10>lighter for them. So while the Giants had a full practice,

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<v Speaker 10>Cowboys kind of scale back based on the GPS numbers.

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<v Speaker 10>But I don't as we have this conversation, there's no

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<v Speaker 10>concern about Bell nor Osa going into the game against

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<v Speaker 10>the Giants. Today is going to be full injury report

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<v Speaker 10>for Thursday. We'll see if anything changes over the course

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<v Speaker 10>of today, but not a lot of concern there. Tyler Biada,

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<v Speaker 10>she was listed as full with the ankle. He's fine.

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<v Speaker 10>Jy Ron cursed to he was full. Tyrone Smith, Well,

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<v Speaker 10>Kvante Turpin, Let's go to Tyrone last Cavante Turpin. That's

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<v Speaker 10>going to be interesting to watch because he did return

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<v Speaker 10>from that injury in Philadelphia, scored his second touchdown for

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<v Speaker 10>the Cowboys, but then you could see that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 10>there for him after that. So we'll see if he

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<v Speaker 10>has availability for this weekend. Today will be key for

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<v Speaker 10>him as well as tomorrow. If he can't go, obviously,

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<v Speaker 10>the returner as a backup is going to be Rico.

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<v Speaker 10>Maybe Deuce Von gets activated this week if Cavante can't

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<v Speaker 10>go as welly.

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<v Speaker 8>Rico d punks as well. I know he's done kicks.

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<v Speaker 8>Does he do punts as well?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen him ever return a punt.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, either not a punt, which would mean here you go,

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<v Speaker 10>Douce if Rico not Rico. If Cavante can't go, Deuce Europe.

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<v Speaker 10>Tyron Smith obviously, like you said, listed with an illness,

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<v Speaker 10>did not participate in the walkthrough. No physical issue as

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<v Speaker 10>far as like the next thing or so, the fact

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<v Speaker 10>that that's not listed, we're trending in a good spot there.

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<v Speaker 10>Mike McCarthy was asked this week about the possibility of

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<v Speaker 10>the Cowboys keeping the formula they had last week going

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<v Speaker 10>into Philadelphia going forward, in which he did not Tyron

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<v Speaker 10>did not participate in the contact practices. It was walked

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<v Speaker 10>through and mock game only, and then he had an

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<v Speaker 10>exceptional game. Mike McCarthy said that is on the table,

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<v Speaker 10>possibly not just for this week, but possibly going forward

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<v Speaker 10>for the rest of the season. I'm completely on board

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<v Speaker 10>with that. He is no longer a daily driver. I

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<v Speaker 10>think it's fair that everyone in the organization and Tyron

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<v Speaker 10>understand that. So if you're only going to pull him

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<v Speaker 10>out on Sundays or Mondays or Thursdays, whenever the game

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<v Speaker 10>is there, we go.

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<v Speaker 11>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 10>Because if he can continue to play at the level

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<v Speaker 10>he played in Philly without practicing, there's your magic sauce

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<v Speaker 10>right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Amber and Brian, you disagree, agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wish they'd all practice. Myself. I hate the

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<v Speaker 3>veteran day. I get what Mike's trying to do. I

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<v Speaker 3>think some of the issues you have on major days

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<v Speaker 3>you practice. He doesn't practice him anyway. You know, he

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<v Speaker 3>does a lot of walkthroughs and stuff. I applauded for

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<v Speaker 3>keeping his team healthy, but they make a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>mistakes during games, and I think when you practice, you

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<v Speaker 3>practice with the intent of not making mistakes and being

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<v Speaker 3>ready for the game. I think there's an element of

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<v Speaker 3>attention to detail that you lose when you don't practice. So,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I if Tyron's going to play the way

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<v Speaker 3>he did, great, you know absolutely. The availability of Tyron

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<v Speaker 3>Smith with us is it's really fifty to fifty anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So whether he.

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<v Speaker 3>Practices or not, we've seen him not practice before and

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<v Speaker 3>he's played. He just played a great game last week.

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<v Speaker 3>It's first time in a long time he played a

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<v Speaker 3>really a great game. But there's a side of me

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<v Speaker 3>that just does not dig the aspect of not practicing.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like you lose something there. And the

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<v Speaker 3>guys that don't practice are the ones that play major

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<v Speaker 3>roles weekly.

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<v Speaker 2>In the games.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a fan of not practicing. And if it's

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<v Speaker 3>walked through is whatever, I don't care. But you only

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<v Speaker 3>have so many of these things, so many opportunities. This

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<v Speaker 3>classroom stuff. Yeah, you can learn. You know, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>technology now. You could take your pads home and watch

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<v Speaker 3>tape and prepare that way and be mentally ready. But

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<v Speaker 3>there's something to actually going out there and working on

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<v Speaker 3>run blocking. There's something to actually go out there and

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<v Speaker 3>work on red zone offense, tight red zone offense, pick routes,

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<v Speaker 3>rub routes, you know, physically going out and doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something too that I think this team lacks that

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<v Speaker 3>right now. I think some of the mistakes you see

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<v Speaker 3>them make is because they don't practice nearly enough.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I completely agree with that. I would rather see

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<v Speaker 9>him practice. And who's not to say he can't. He's

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<v Speaker 9>not gonna pull a muscle in the second snap of

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<v Speaker 9>the game.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>It's that can also happen with you not practicing, like

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<v Speaker 9>practicing that muscle, but with him, we've seen it, injuries happen, whatever.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's a tough one. But maybe they why can't

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<v Speaker 9>they come up with something where it's not just like

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<v Speaker 9>either he practices or not, but it's like a limited

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<v Speaker 9>type of amount of snaps in practice, like he's still

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<v Speaker 9>getting some work in, but not for the full practice period.

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<v Speaker 10>I think when you're talking about Tyron, and I don't disagree.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm you know, I've played sports, team sports, I've coached

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<v Speaker 10>some sports, and I agree with Brian and that when

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<v Speaker 10>you're not on the practice field, you're missing something that's

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<v Speaker 10>just this bottom line. I think from the Cowboys perspective,

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<v Speaker 10>you have to weigh that up against who you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 10>If we're talking about like, for example, a veteran rest

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<v Speaker 10>Dade for like a jay Ron Curse, I don't agree

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<v Speaker 10>with that. I think a guy like Jayron Curs should

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<v Speaker 10>be on the field. But when it's Tyron Smith and

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<v Speaker 10>you see his durability issues over the past several years,

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<v Speaker 10>and you say to yourself, Okay, what's more important him,

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<v Speaker 10>him Tyron only Tyron. Is it more important to make

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<v Speaker 10>sure that Tyron is getting the practice reps or is

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<v Speaker 10>it more important that he is available for the games?

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<v Speaker 10>The next thinger will suffered in practice, you lost him

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<v Speaker 10>for the subsequent game, and then you struggled on the

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<v Speaker 10>offensive line. So I think it's a conversation exclusive to

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<v Speaker 10>Tyrone Smith. And if we're keeping it exclusive to Tyrone Smith,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm fine with that because at his stage in his career,

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<v Speaker 10>it's kind of it's not dissimilar from Zach Martin. Zach

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<v Speaker 10>Martin doesn't technically need to practice to go out there

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<v Speaker 10>and ball on a weekly basis. Tyron is in that

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<v Speaker 10>same air difference being Zach is more durable. So we're

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<v Speaker 10>not having this practice conversation about Zach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they don't run the ball particularly well, and

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<v Speaker 3>they've struggled on the right side running the ball, and

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<v Speaker 3>him and Steal for some reason have regressed from what

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<v Speaker 3>they've done. Is it practice, is it coaching? There's something

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<v Speaker 3>that they're missing right.

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<v Speaker 11>Now on the right side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I totally you know, Zach Martin, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>he is Zach Martin's is a great player, Zach Martin,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean they give him a veteran day,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, well, we noticed when he was out from

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<v Speaker 9>training camp, remember that, Yeah, he was out. And then

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<v Speaker 9>at the start of the season there were times where

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's been really all all years so far

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<v Speaker 9>worthy oh I you know, uh have struggled with just

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<v Speaker 9>being really good. But even with Zach, I forgot why

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<v Speaker 9>game it was specifically that even a guy like him

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<v Speaker 9>was not having a good day. And that was at

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<v Speaker 9>the beginning of the year, and we talked about it

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<v Speaker 9>on the show, and I remember maybe it was like

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<v Speaker 9>the reasoning behind it was a reflection of him being

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<v Speaker 9>absent throughout training camp and missing those things.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing with Tyron Smith is that he could walk,

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<v Speaker 3>He could get hurt walking up the stairs to get

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<v Speaker 3>on the airplane. That's that's where you're at right now

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<v Speaker 3>with Tyron Smith. And I understand them trying to protect

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<v Speaker 3>him and all that. And but when you're when you're

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<v Speaker 3>when you have major breakdowns and and you're and you're

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<v Speaker 3>not particularly good in areas, you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>just walking through is the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know they've they He prides himself on practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike always talks about how much he likes to practice

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<v Speaker 3>and all that, but he doesn't practice these guys in

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<v Speaker 3>that way.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this team has.

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<v Speaker 3>Been fresh in the playoffs and all that, and it

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't carried through to the whole playoffs.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, and I think the other thing you

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<v Speaker 8>got to consider that when you're talking about offensive lineman

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<v Speaker 8>is continuity. We talk about it all the time. We

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<v Speaker 8>have to work as a unit, and what have we

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<v Speaker 8>talked about also when it comes to some of the

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<v Speaker 8>challenges they've had have had issues sometimes when it comes

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<v Speaker 8>to handling twist and being able to kind of pass

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<v Speaker 8>guys off. And I've seen in the running game sometimes

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<v Speaker 8>the issue is that guys aren't getting off to that

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<v Speaker 8>second level. And that's all about timing. That's all about

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<v Speaker 8>working with the guy besides you and knowing when you're

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<v Speaker 8>letting go and releasing that player and trade passing that

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<v Speaker 8>player offf so you can get to the next guy.

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<v Speaker 8>If you're not practicing that timing won't get there because

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<v Speaker 8>we as we know, they haven't played enough games in

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<v Speaker 8>a row, as we have been talking about, haven't done

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<v Speaker 8>that enough to get to a point where you feel

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<v Speaker 8>like that continuity is right there. So I do wonder

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<v Speaker 8>if you if you're not getting the practice time, where

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<v Speaker 8>do you get that continuity.

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<v Speaker 10>Because you're again you're you're you're playing the risk rewater

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<v Speaker 10>equation because you're one hundred percent right. The more practice

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<v Speaker 10>reps you get, the more continuity you build. But if

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<v Speaker 10>he suffers the next singer in practice and he's not

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<v Speaker 10>on the field the next game, then guess what, You're

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<v Speaker 10>not getting the continuity in the game. So you're losing

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<v Speaker 10>it somewhere. And really, again that's why I said this

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<v Speaker 10>conversation for me is exclusive to Tyrant and that you know,

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<v Speaker 10>how do you manage that, like is he more valuable

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<v Speaker 10>in getting these practice reps, which are valuable, But is

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<v Speaker 10>it more valuable to get him those and risk him

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<v Speaker 10>not playing the next one or two games, or if

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<v Speaker 10>you say, hey, he's at a stage in his career

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<v Speaker 10>where where he's good enough to go through walkthroughs in

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<v Speaker 10>mock games and still also mentally build chemistry with Tyler

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<v Speaker 10>and then it shows on the left side as it

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<v Speaker 10>did in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 11>It's the right side that needs to get it figured out.

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<v Speaker 2>They were ready last week.

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<v Speaker 3>They felt like that if he might something might happen

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<v Speaker 3>to him in play three, play four, I mean a

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<v Speaker 3>dooga was ready to go. If you want to, like

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<v Speaker 3>watch the movie Top Gun and have somebody on cat

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<v Speaker 3>to you know ready, you know techna, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all we're all fighting the mission, but we got

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we got somebody over here in Kat too,

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<v Speaker 3>ready to launch. If yeah, somebody goes down, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean, do we want to

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<v Speaker 2>launch a cat? You know, we're good, we're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're battling here, you know that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But there, that's that's that's the that's Tyrone Smith now,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and as great as he is that's that

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<v Speaker 3>there's no other player I can ever remember where you

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<v Speaker 3>need him so badly, but you're just scared every time

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<v Speaker 3>did he ever takes a snap?

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds like Sean Lee. That's where they will Sean Lee

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<v Speaker 4>too in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just, like I said, I think practice.

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<v Speaker 3>I think practice is important, and I know Alan Iverson

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<v Speaker 3>disagrees with me. But the only thing I think it

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<v Speaker 3>is important for for football, I think it's important.

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<v Speaker 9>Well I'm thinking, I'm like, okay, how can I compare

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<v Speaker 9>this in my own life or relate to Obviously, I'm

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<v Speaker 9>no athletes. I'm not athletes whatsoever. No, sorry, so I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 9>that's just working out. I'm no athlete. But if I

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<v Speaker 9>don't pick up a paintbrush all week and then I

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<v Speaker 9>do over the weekend, it might take me. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 9>mean my skill is disappear or gone. It's still there,

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<v Speaker 9>but it might take me like an hour or so

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<v Speaker 9>for me to kind of all right, let me get

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<v Speaker 9>back in the groove in the pace. And you can't.

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<v Speaker 9>It's just there's no other way to replicate that moment

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<v Speaker 9>unless you practice on the field out there, and even then,

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<v Speaker 9>even then, practice is not replicating what you're gonna face

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<v Speaker 9>during the game.

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<v Speaker 11>I agree.

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<v Speaker 10>I think if he has an average or even slightly

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<v Speaker 10>above or below average game against the Eagles, then it's

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<v Speaker 10>not on the table. As far as the conversation for

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<v Speaker 10>Mike McCarthy and the coaching staff, I think the fact

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<v Speaker 10>that he was able to go out there not show

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<v Speaker 10>any rush, not need any ramp up time as far

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<v Speaker 10>as the first couple of series or whatever, gives them

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<v Speaker 10>confidence that, hey, if you did it once, you can

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<v Speaker 10>do it again. So to your point, your one hundred

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<v Speaker 10>percent correct. But that's what I mean when I say

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<v Speaker 10>it's exclusive. The conversation is to tyring because of where

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<v Speaker 10>he is in his career, how elite he can still

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<v Speaker 10>be when he's on the field physically and mentally. So

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<v Speaker 10>he's shown you that he doesn't need the ramp up

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<v Speaker 10>and that's why I think it's on the table for.

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<v Speaker 8>All Right, here's what I'm to do. I want to

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<v Speaker 8>move on to another topic real quickly. I want to

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<v Speaker 8>hit before we go to break. We talked a little

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<v Speaker 8>bit earlier in the week about Martavis Bryant. Cowboys actually

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<v Speaker 8>finalized that they signed him to the practice squad. He

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<v Speaker 8>said something I think it was yesterday that did raise

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<v Speaker 8>my eyebrow for a second. He said he's been running

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<v Speaker 8>twenty to twenty two to twenty three miles per hour

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<v Speaker 8>in some of his training. So it brought up an

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<v Speaker 8>interesting thought in my mind, like how fast is that

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<v Speaker 8>relative to other NFL players? So I went on our

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<v Speaker 8>next Gen stat website and max speed for a wide

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<v Speaker 8>receiver in the twenty twenty three season twenty two point

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<v Speaker 8>forty four miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 4>If he's telling the truth, he's running as fast as

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<v Speaker 4>the fastest wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>We did the receipts.

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<v Speaker 8>They didn't say a name, they just said the fastest, well,

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<v Speaker 8>the fastest wide receiver time this year. It's a stained

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<v Speaker 8>speed of point five seconds sustainful point five seconds was

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<v Speaker 8>twenty two zero point four to four miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's go the chronometer and go yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>But my question is, if that is true, does it

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<v Speaker 8>change your thoughts on maybe what your expectations might be

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<v Speaker 8>for this guy, Because, as we talked about earlier the week,

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<v Speaker 8>my expectations was literally can help you out, maybe you

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<v Speaker 8>know as a scout type guy, but if he's running

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<v Speaker 8>as fast as the fastest guy in the league at

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<v Speaker 8>the wide receiver position might be able.

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<v Speaker 11>To use it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you talk to anybody in the organization,

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<v Speaker 3>they will tell you they're kicking the tires on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're just looking.

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<v Speaker 3>They're looking to see if they if they can find

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<v Speaker 3>something that can help them, you know, maybe two three

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<v Speaker 3>weeks from now, you know, that's that's where they're at.

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<v Speaker 3>Britt Brown's gonna get this guy in the best shape

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<v Speaker 3>he can. The guy's gonna practice, Hopefully, he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>some opportunities to learn what's going on in the playbook

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<v Speaker 3>and get some reps out there, and then maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that for that stretch run and you get to December,

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<v Speaker 3>you might see him on a call up, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and because if they feel good enough that way, don't

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think this was one to go out and

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<v Speaker 3>replace somebody right now. I think this was let's get

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<v Speaker 3>let's let's go two or three weeks, see where we're at,

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<v Speaker 3>and then if it's if it's good to go, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>go with it. If it's not, then there's really no

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<v Speaker 3>harm there.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, first, we want to believe you, Martavis. We need

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<v Speaker 10>those receipts, my friend somebody.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, we need the receipt.

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<v Speaker 10>But but I'll say, if we're talking strictly on if

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<v Speaker 10>the speed, if that's accurate, if that changes my thought process,

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<v Speaker 10>The answer is no, if we're talking strictly speed, because

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<v Speaker 10>you have speed, you got Cooks, you got turping, you

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<v Speaker 10>got speed. You wouldn't necessarily have speed with that size.

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<v Speaker 4>I was about to say the size, you have speed.

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<v Speaker 10>With that size, but I'm right there with Brian. It's

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<v Speaker 10>still a look Sie situation for the Cowboys. He his

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<v Speaker 10>signing doesn't, as we have this conversation, displace anyone. It

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<v Speaker 10>doesn't displace Gallop, Tobart, Turping, it certainly doesn't displace Cooks.

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<v Speaker 10>And then you know Seede Lamb's going to be Ceede Lambs.

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<v Speaker 10>So I think it's just, you know, it's kicking the tires,

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<v Speaker 10>like Brian said, And if it works out for you,

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<v Speaker 10>then you figure out what that success looks like schematically

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<v Speaker 10>for you. And if it doesn't, then what it really

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<v Speaker 10>cost you, you know, pennies on the dollar of that, So.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be a bigger red zone target.

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<v Speaker 8>Though, yeah, you know that there are ways you can

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<v Speaker 8>figure out how to use him. I would think, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and again, the success as we talked about how do

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<v Speaker 8>you define success?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it is can he make a play for you?

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<v Speaker 8>Like literally you get into one of these type games,

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<v Speaker 8>can he be the guy? Can he be the difference

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<v Speaker 8>in that Philadelphia game when you're figuring out how you

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<v Speaker 8>can try to get in the end zone there at

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<v Speaker 8>the end of the game. Maybe he's that difference maker

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<v Speaker 8>for you. And if you can find a guy that

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<v Speaker 8>can play that kind of role, it's a good thing

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<v Speaker 8>for you. December and into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 9>How successful would you say the Cowboys have been at

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<v Speaker 9>utilizing New York acquisition new talent when plugging them being

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<v Speaker 9>the offense, because it makes me wonder like people that

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<v Speaker 9>come into mind, why Hilton?

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<v Speaker 2>T Y Hilton?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember the first time it was a game against Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 3>he had like a thirty It was yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was a time where Ty Hilton as

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<v Speaker 3>a plug in player, Like his first four receptions were

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<v Speaker 3>all first downs. So that was kind of one of

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<v Speaker 3>those Wow, Okay, here's the guy off the couch all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden gets plugged in.

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<v Speaker 2>The game and now he's helping you win games.

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<v Speaker 10>It's possible it's a little bit more of a gap

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<v Speaker 10>between t Y and Martevias simply because of how more

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<v Speaker 10>recently t Y was in the league. Yeah, and this

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<v Speaker 10>is a guy t Y at at height of his career.

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<v Speaker 10>He was in a Hall of Fame discussion, right, So

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<v Speaker 10>different caliber there, but you know it's still possible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>different position, but you know Jason Peters came in and contributed.

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<v Speaker 10>So yeah, so it's definitely possible. If that's what you're asking.

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<v Speaker 10>It's just a matter of waiting and seeing what happens

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<v Speaker 10>with it. Basically, it's got the skill set.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm just saying. I was, Yeah, I was thinking more

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<v Speaker 9>those offensive when it comes to offensive weapons, where sometimes

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<v Speaker 9>they struggle to find the right spot or the right way,

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<v Speaker 9>Like look at Kevanta Turpey. I mean different copletely, different

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<v Speaker 9>story here, but how long it took them to get

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<v Speaker 9>to the point that there are now in finding ways

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<v Speaker 9>to use him. So it's more like Hollar guys like that,

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<v Speaker 9>Like sometimes they struggle and it takes them a while

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<v Speaker 9>to really when it starts clicking and they start taking

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<v Speaker 9>advantage of those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I was trying to look it up.

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<v Speaker 8>I had I didn't realize until I was kind of

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<v Speaker 8>reading around about him yesterday. He actually played this last

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<v Speaker 8>year in the XFL. Yeah, and I hear it here

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<v Speaker 8>just looking at some of his receiving numbers. He had

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<v Speaker 8>one hundred and fifty four yards receiving on fourteen receptions.

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<v Speaker 8>So not anything that you're like, oh my gosh, that

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<v Speaker 8>was that was like.

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<v Speaker 4>A wonderful season. But he has played football.

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<v Speaker 8>Because I was thinking he's coming right off the couch,

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<v Speaker 8>he actually has been playing football, so that that does

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<v Speaker 8>help a little bit. And then you see what you

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<v Speaker 8>can do here. Obviously you got the trainers here that

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<v Speaker 8>can get him into football shape, and then you see

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<v Speaker 8>if you can take advantage of some of that size

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<v Speaker 8>and speed to give you a little something.

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<v Speaker 10>And he's played on a big infil state as far

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<v Speaker 10>as almost said programs at college football on the brain,

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<v Speaker 10>as far as organizations will concern Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>there's a lot of eyes and bright lights in Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 10>as well, and he and under Mike Tomlin, there's a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of expectation there and he produced up there. So

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<v Speaker 10>it's not like he's unfamiliar with stepping into big shoes

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<v Speaker 10>and trying to get some stuff done.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's take our first break. Will we come back.

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<v Speaker 8>We're going to jump into the Giants defense versus the

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<v Speaker 8>Cowboys office. We'll be Backdallas, Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's talk about the New York Giants defense. Since the

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<v Speaker 8>last time the Cowboys played them, they did trade away

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<v Speaker 8>what I think is probably safe to say their best

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<v Speaker 8>defensive player, or at least among their very best defensive

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<v Speaker 8>players in Leonard Williams. Brian how much did that change

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<v Speaker 8>their defense when they traded him away?

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<v Speaker 3>It hurt them in a way, and because they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of figure out what's going on inside it tackle,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're still going to have to deal with Dexter Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he in my opinion, you know, with Thibodeaux

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<v Speaker 3>is listed as an outside linebacker, he really plays like

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<v Speaker 3>an edge.

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<v Speaker 2>Jihad Ward is the other one.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, if that right there, Lawrence Thibodeaux Ward,

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of their past Russian group. And as we

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<v Speaker 3>all know, this is a very blitz heavy team. I

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<v Speaker 3>think percent of the time they're gonna blitch you here

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<v Speaker 3>and the down they do it on, which I thought

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<v Speaker 3>was interesting. I was like, where they do this, it's

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<v Speaker 3>second down, like fifty eight percent of the time they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna blitz, and you kind of watch the tape, You're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I see what they're doing here. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it really does start with I could very well see

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<v Speaker 3>them in this game, guys taking Dexter Lawrence and putting

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<v Speaker 3>him right over the nose of Tyler Biattish and say

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<v Speaker 3>block because he's done that a couple of the games

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<v Speaker 3>I was watching, the last two the Jets, he caused a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of problems inside. He caused problems.

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<v Speaker 3>Against the Raiders as well, just pushing the center back

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<v Speaker 3>into the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where you're going to have to deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Thibodeau is a guy that Thibodau had one of his

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<v Speaker 3>best games, by the way, against the Jets when he

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<v Speaker 3>watched tab. He had three sacks in that game and

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<v Speaker 3>he looked like the player that we all kind of

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<v Speaker 3>thought he was going to be. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>what they got going up front with their with their group.

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<v Speaker 8>You mentioned Thibodeau. Where where is he going to typically?

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<v Speaker 8>Where are you going to typically seeing him line see

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<v Speaker 8>him line up, and who's going to be the cowboy

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<v Speaker 8>player that's primarily going to see him most of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if I'm the Giants, I'm gonna put him over

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<v Speaker 3>on the right side because he plays both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he can play. So what I'm gonna do is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna put.

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<v Speaker 3>Him on the on on the on the Giants left

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<v Speaker 3>your right and I'm gonna test. I'm gonna test Terrence

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<v Speaker 3>Steele in this one to see if he can hold up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, these teams they look for weaknesses along the line,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think a couple of spots that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>have had some concerns have been at their center spot

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<v Speaker 3>and then at right tackle a little bit. So they'll

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<v Speaker 3>take their two best players and put them in those spots.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe.

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<v Speaker 8>Thinking about the skill set of Thibodeau and the skill

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<v Speaker 8>set of Steel and where still is okay and where

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<v Speaker 8>he's struggling this year, how does that match up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's the The thing with Thibodeau is he

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for a big guy, he doesn't play with

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<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of power. He's more of a try

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of beat you with Try to get to

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<v Speaker 3>your shoulder, try to beat you with some quickness, try

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<v Speaker 3>and dip underneath you. You know, the hand placement, all

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff could be a lot better for him. He

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<v Speaker 3>relies more on he's gonna get the edge and he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be able to get underneath you to get to

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback. So, uh, I think where I think where

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<v Speaker 3>Steel needs to be a little careful is as much

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<v Speaker 3>as he's had some of the issues on the edge

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<v Speaker 3>and gets over maybe overthinks it a little bit and thinks,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to be outside. I have to be outside,

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<v Speaker 3>and then that, and then Thibodeau comes back inside.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would worry a little bit right now, being really heavy

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<v Speaker 3>trying to stay outside on the outside foot on his

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<v Speaker 3>right foot, and then Thibodeau taking him back inside because

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<v Speaker 3>he's capable of doing both rushes that way.

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<v Speaker 9>The best who's the best stop in the run.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be Lawrence. It's gonna be this this when

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<v Speaker 3>you watch them play, Lawrence is the defensive tackle makes

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of plays inside because if you run the

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<v Speaker 3>ball at him, he's going to just disengage the blocks

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<v Speaker 3>and get He also can work a couple of gaps

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<v Speaker 3>down is what he can do. They've got uh uh

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Bobby Okarike, the okaik the linebackers a good player

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<v Speaker 3>for them. He's he's a kind of a downhill player.

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<v Speaker 3>So the defensive tackle and then the middle linebacker or

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<v Speaker 3>the two of the best players when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>defending the run. You're thinking about running the ball this week,

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<v Speaker 3>or try to run the ball actually.

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<v Speaker 9>Like to see something a little bit of established or

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<v Speaker 9>starting to establish that wherever you can, at whatever point,

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<v Speaker 9>I think, just to start building up a little bit

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<v Speaker 9>more confidence in that area of the game.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me throw this at you.

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<v Speaker 8>I was looking at some of the numbers around the

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<v Speaker 8>Giants rush defense. They are twenty fifth in rush defense

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<v Speaker 8>in the league. Not only that, they're twenty eighth in

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<v Speaker 8>yards per carry. They're allowing four point six yards per carry.

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<v Speaker 8>When you think about that and considering the fact that

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<v Speaker 8>they've allowed one hundred and twenty five plus rushing yards

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<v Speaker 8>in seven of their nine games, give up a WAP

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<v Speaker 8>in two twenty two at Miami, it looks like it

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<v Speaker 8>maybe it.

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<v Speaker 4>Could be a game where you could get right with

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<v Speaker 4>your running games.

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<v Speaker 11>So you're seeing there's a cha, there's a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>But but to me, it's gonna have to be can

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<v Speaker 3>you block? Can you block that defensive tackle?

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence? I think, can can you know? Then?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, evidently when you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>games and stuff like that, the thing about it is

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<v Speaker 3>to me, and when I watched the Giants play, I

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<v Speaker 3>just the thing I worry the most about them is like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you just commit to saying, Okay, we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna throw the ball here today. We're gonna try and

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<v Speaker 3>throw the ball the pressure there, blitz pressure. And maybe

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<v Speaker 3>this is a time where Dallas could say, well, let's

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<v Speaker 3>try and load up and run the ball here, and

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<v Speaker 3>let's try and be successful at it. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Giants kind of also know that too, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're they're sitting there thinking, well, Dallas wants

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<v Speaker 3>to try and get right running the ball here, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and so how do you play? I mean, they're the

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<v Speaker 3>reason I think the Giants give up plays. And they're

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<v Speaker 3>really their linebackers are like really aggressive, uh with him,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh they McFadden's another one.

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<v Speaker 2>They overrun.

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<v Speaker 3>They're really they they they really bite heavy when you

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<v Speaker 3>like give them that run action. They're coming forward because

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<v Speaker 3>they're committed to they're committed to trying to play the run.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of what Derek was talking about Xavier McKinny of

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<v Speaker 3>the safety, these guys are all trying to fly down

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<v Speaker 3>inside there to stop the run because they have had

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<v Speaker 3>some problems with it. But Dallas has got to prove

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<v Speaker 3>to me that they can run the ball. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you go into a game and you're playing against

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty fifth best run defense in the league and

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<v Speaker 3>you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have success running the ball. Now you've really really got

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<v Speaker 2>some problems in this one. But it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>have to block.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to be about having to block

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<v Speaker 3>the making sure that you take care of lowrence and

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<v Speaker 3>then take care of their linebackers.

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<v Speaker 11>I think.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, like you said, they rank pretty poorly as

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<v Speaker 10>far as run defense is concerned, and kind of going

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<v Speaker 10>to Brian's point, they if they feel like that's where

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<v Speaker 10>you're going to try to attack them first, attack them

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<v Speaker 10>in the air first, and then use that to kind

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<v Speaker 10>of set up your run and then there you go.

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<v Speaker 11>There's your rushing attack right there.

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<v Speaker 10>Because they're not great at pass defense, which Brian will

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<v Speaker 10>get to in a moment. So I mean, however you

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<v Speaker 10>want to attack it, this is a game where you

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<v Speaker 10>can get the run game going. I just wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 10>at it probably merely. I mean, and you're doing so

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<v Speaker 10>well as far as explosiveness with Ceedee Lamb and Jake Ferguson, like,

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<v Speaker 10>don't hank that, keep that going, apply use that to

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<v Speaker 10>apply pressure and keep that momentum moving forward and then

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<v Speaker 10>they'll start backing off and then here comes that twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 10>twenty sixth rank run defense unable to stop Tony Pollard,

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<v Speaker 10>Rico Dala.

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<v Speaker 9>But okay, this might be a dumb question, but it's okay.

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<v Speaker 9>If they're bad at it, that's stopping the run anyways, regardless,

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<v Speaker 9>why does it matter whether they know or.

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<v Speaker 10>Because they'll throw they scheme for they'll throw extra bodies

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<v Speaker 10>at it, they'll put more bodies in the box and

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<v Speaker 10>things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you haven't proved it. You've proven you can't run

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<v Speaker 2>the ball. I mean you've had well you I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>say proven you you struggle running the.

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<v Speaker 4>Ball, shown you can.

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<v Speaker 3>So if yeah, if if their their their thought has

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<v Speaker 3>to be. You know when you look at Wink Martin

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<v Speaker 3>del their defensive coordinator, if I'm him, I'm like, okay,

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 3>if I if I would worry more about Dak and

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 3>CD and Ferguson than I would anybody else. Those are

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 3>the guys I need. Because you haven't proven to me

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 3>that you can run the ball against anybody you know,

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 3>good or bad. You know that mean they just haven't

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 3>had success doing it. And you know, Philadelphia, we knew Philip.

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 3>But there's team you know, there's teams that we might

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 3>believe we saw last week with our own eyes. Philadelphia

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 3>plays poor pass defense. You know that might be the

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 3>way to beat Philadelphia. Now, don't run the ball. And

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 3>it might be people don't want to run the ball

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 3>because it's like, no, we'll throw the ball in these

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 3>guys because if we could block their fronts, then we

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 3>can throw the ball in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, honestly, I think if I were the Giants,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 8>I take the opposite approach Brian, and what you're saying,

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 8>I would actually say I would come into this game

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 8>saying I got a cool Dak Prescott off.

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. I'm playing past these.

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm I'm like, I'm keeping seven back. Yeah, and

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 8>I might blitz every once in a while. But also

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.239
<v Speaker 8>the other parts of that too, is when you got

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 8>a team like Theirs, where offensively they're going to struggle,

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 8>you want to keep the game close. So the last

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 8>thing you do is give a big plays. So I'd

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 8>be like, I'm not giving up any big plays. I'm

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 8>keeping everything underneath me. I'm going to force Dallas to

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 8>drive methodically down the field and not make a mistake.

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 8>That's how I think I would approach it if I

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 8>were the Jackson, and maybe they will, but that's how

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 8>I think they have to approach it, right. I think

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 8>that's the only shot they got in approaching this game,

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 8>and I.

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 10>Would love for them to approach it that way because

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 10>they're going to get absolutely eaten alive. And that's why

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 10>I say keep the moment. I'm going keep the electricity

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 10>going in this passing attack because if they for them,

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 10>I could see how that makes sense.

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 11>But that's a bad play for them. That's a bad play.

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 11>They don't really.

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 3>They're no, They're they're struggling because their offense is so bad.

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 4>Their offense is so bad and affects everything else.

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 3>It affects how they have to play defense, and they

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 3>have to. They have to now they're they're banged up

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 3>in the secondary right now. I mean, we'll see Dorr

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Jackson gotta suffered. He hurt his neck in the Buffalo game,

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 3>concussion and then he got to get out or is

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 3>he I talked to my guys with the Giants this morning.

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 3>He was there's there's a chance that he's going to

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 3>be available, So that means would be him and Banks

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 3>would likely be at the corner. Nick McLeod played last

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 3>week and he wasn't terrible in the game where they're

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 3>bad as Cordell Flock is the nickel and he's been struggling.

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 3>He plays really loose, and that's a problem for them.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, sometimes he's up on it, sometimes he's back.

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 3>He gives up plays, he gives up routes. He doesn't

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 3>tackle particularly well. So I I don't know if they

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 3>want to sit there and blitz Dak in this game.

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 3>I would make, like you guys were talking about to me,

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 3>make Dallas have to drive the ball, because when Dallas

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 3>drives the ball, are they going to make a mistake

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, legal motion?

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Are they going to give up a sack? Are they

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna you.

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Know, what's going to happen in this game. So yeah,

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 3>the plan for me would Yeah, I would worry, But

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 3>like I said, I would worry about Dak a lot

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 3>in this game. If I was the Giants, I would

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 3>do everything in my power to make sure you take

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 3>care of him first and then work from the others

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 3>if you.

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 11>Can do it.

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 10>If you can, I don't think they don't have the

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 10>horses to do it. And here's here's something that that

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 10>I found that's actually promising to in the regards of

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 10>a concern that you and we had coming out of

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 10>the San Francisco game. Dak Prescott and these receivers excel

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 10>at exposing zone coverage, but when a defense switches to man,

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 10>the Cowboys were struggling.

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 11>Dak was struggling with that.

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 10>Well, they went into a Philadelphia game where Philly was

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 10>averaging roughly seven plus ish percent zone defense, but they

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 10>dropped that and it was almost a fifty to fifty spot. Okay,

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 10>Dak Prescott versus man coverage in Philly thirteen for twenty

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 10>one eight two touchdowns plus ten point eight so almost

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 10>eleven percent completion percentage above expectation. So Dak Prescott, and

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 10>this is why I say keep that momentum going with

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 10>Ceedee Lamb and Jake Ferguson, because now it's starting to

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 10>come together where Dak Prescott can pick apart man coverage

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 10>as well as he can pick apart zone. The Giants

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 10>don't have a recourse for this. They just they don't.

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 8>The more the season is going on, the more it's

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 8>becoming apparent, at least to me, that I think the

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 8>issues that the offense was dealing with early in the

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 8>season were growing pains. They were figuring out this offense.

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 8>They figuring out how to get dak At made it

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 8>in this offense, and I think now they're starting to

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 8>figure it out. And that's why I think they've been

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:05.959
<v Speaker 8>on this roll these last couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go and take our final break. We'll

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<v Speaker 8>Let's turn our attention to the Cowboys offense. Here's a

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<v Speaker 8>question I have for you, guys, is there a noticeable

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<v Speaker 8>difference for you between Tony Pollard of previous seasons and

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<v Speaker 8>of twenty twenty three, Because I know there's been a

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<v Speaker 8>lot with regard to the offensive line and their woes,

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<v Speaker 8>but how much of that is about Tony Pollard. How

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<v Speaker 8>different is he than he's been in past years.

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<v Speaker 10>He's different to me, and I'm not surprised because be clear,

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<v Speaker 10>in what ways I think as the season where is along,

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 10>he's starting to find out what it means to be

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 10>RB one and have to do the dirty work and

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 10>the heavy lifting that say Ezekiel Elliott had become accustomed

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 10>to doing, and that's going to take some of his explosiveness,

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 10>some of his home earn ability, particularly as you get

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 10>midway and in the back end.

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<v Speaker 11>Of the season.

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<v Speaker 10>So because there's some plays on a film where I'm like, okay,

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 10>normally the Tony Pollard previously to twenty twenty three would

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 10>have hit that lane and gotten ten fifteen yards, maybe

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 10>that's a home run ball. But Tony Pollard in twenty

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 10>twenty three he either doesn't see that lane or he

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 10>hits that lane, but not with the same explosiveness. So

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 10>just leads me to wonder how much of carrying the

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 10>RB one load and doing that dirty work in the

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 10>heavy lifting has siphoned some of his explosiveness, which also

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 10>is why RB two, which was Tony Pollard, now it's

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.479
<v Speaker 10>ric o' daudo has those fresh legs and he's showing

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 10>that explosiveness.

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 11>That's just the dynamical figure, go figure.

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 10>And we talked you say that sacentiously because we talked

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 10>about this in training camp, what does Tony Pollard RB

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 10>one look like? And we said, I know, Adburn on

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 10>the same page with this. We don't think that it

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 10>looks anything like Tony Pollard RB two because you have

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 10>to take on more duties and you're taking more hits

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 10>because you're getting more reps. And as the weeks roll along,

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 10>you start to find out this is why Ezekiel Elliott

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 10>in December would deal with the PCO issue, This is

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 10>why Ezekiel Elliott would deal with this ailment and that ailment.

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 10>And it's just not there like it was. Not to

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 10>say he can't still hit the home run. I believe

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 10>he can, but this is a different version of Tony

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 10>Pollard and people just need to get used to it.

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 10>You're not going to see the one you saw in

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 10>twenty twenty two and twenty twenty one that now is

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 10>Ricodoudo because that's how it plays out in the RB

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 10>one RB two dynamic.

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<v Speaker 9>Yep, where are all the z caters now? It's just

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 9>one of those things you presented a perfect because now

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 9>I do see some people online wanting to see more,

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 9>and it's okay. The stories before now to be fair,

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 9>to be fair, the old line has not been what

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.320
<v Speaker 9>you like it to be, so there we got to

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 9>take that into account. There are a lot of times

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 9>because of the on line playing the way that they are,

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 9>I feel like there are times where Tony is given

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 9>more responsibility as a blocker to kind of help. He's

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 9>done well, but it's still taking away from you just

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 9>being that guy that runs with their legs and takes

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 9>off with the ball. So I think, yeah, he hasn't

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 9>been that guy. He's gone. He has a lot more

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.919
<v Speaker 9>responsibilities on his back that he's having to endure game

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 9>after game. But again, you got to look at the

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 9>old line and how that looks. And we very very

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 9>well known that the old line is the one kind

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 9>of create well not kind of they are the ones

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 9>creating those holes for you and it just it hasn't

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.800
<v Speaker 9>been there for the for the running backs really this season.

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the old line and the tight ends can't get

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 3>him to and through the hole. That's that's the biggest

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 3>issue right now. They're trying to scheme ways of doing this,

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 3>whether it's pulling guys, it's uh, you know, with some

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 3>of the combination blocks, but they don't win at the

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 3>point of attack nearly enough. The right side surely hasn't

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 3>won like it used to win with Steel and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're dealing with his injuries of him trying

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<v Speaker 3>to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>They just haven't been as strong. And then when they

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<v Speaker 2>have had opportunities, unfortunately they had a big run the

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<v Speaker 2>other day, got called back for holding. You know, with

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<v Speaker 2>scoon Maker, you know, they've.

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<v Speaker 3>Had some that have got to and through and and

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 3>you know when they can, they can, you know they can,

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 3>They're capable of doing that. He's clearly different. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he's healthy enough right now. I think the injuries

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 3>has hurt him. It's unfortunate for him because he's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, he's trying to, you know, get another contract.

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 3>He's playing on a franchise tag right now, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>starting to hear the whispers Woul Dallas consider drafting a

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<v Speaker 3>running back in the first round. Now you're starting to hear,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're starting to see people talk about, well,

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 3>did they just need to move on from all these

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<v Speaker 3>running backs and address that in the next to next year.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think as long as the offensive line continues

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<v Speaker 3>to struggle, you'll see Tony Pollard struggle.

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<v Speaker 10>And Tony, to his credit because he had a touchdown

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.799
<v Speaker 10>that was deleted because of the illegal formation penalty. So

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, he's he's grinding and he's doing what he

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<v Speaker 10>can do. It's just it's a different seat. So it's

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 10>a different Tony because it's different requirements, and like we

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<v Speaker 10>all agreed, offensive line isn't helping him at all.

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<v Speaker 11>But then you'd go back to the tight ends and

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<v Speaker 11>there also.

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<v Speaker 10>But then when you go back and you look at

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<v Speaker 10>let's say the Charges game, for example, dek extends to

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 10>play hits Pollard, he turns that into a sixty yarder

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 10>that before he was tackled. You're like, Okay, this looks

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 10>like twenty twenty two Tony Pollard. But the fact he

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 10>didn't feel this guy right here that felt like the

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 10>twenty twenty three Tony Popp right and.

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<v Speaker 8>Also just he even talked about after the game. He's

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<v Speaker 8>like that, that's one that I should have taken into

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<v Speaker 8>the house. And I don't know if he had that

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 8>extra gear at that point to take it to.

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 4>The house or not.

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<v Speaker 11>It's doing the dirty work.

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 8>But the one thing that keeps popping up in my

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<v Speaker 8>head is a conversation that I know you had it

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.359
<v Speaker 8>with Pete. I had it with Skip Pete. He even

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 8>talked about it to the media in general, is his

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 8>belief was in order to get the best out of

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 8>Tony Pollard, Tony Pollard needed that extra back taking that, Yeah,

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 8>you needed that. In order to get the very best

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 8>out of him. You have to manage his number of reps.

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 8>And I'm wondering, again, I don't know that we've seen

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 8>enough to make a definitive stavement, but I'm wondering if

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 8>that's all playing out now to where just that added

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 8>amount of number of reps, added number of hits, that

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 8>the cumulative of that, the cumulative of that maybe affects

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 8>him in a way to where you don't get the

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 8>same level of explosiveness that you would have gotten in

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 8>past years with him. We don't know for sure, but

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.399
<v Speaker 8>I do think, because I agree with you, Brian, until

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 8>the offensive line starts doing their part and the tight

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 8>ends start doing their part, it's hard to really evaluate him.

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 8>I don't think he's getting a fair shot at this,

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 8>But I do wonder if some of that is what

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 8>skip Pete talked about and why he thought it was

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 8>necessary to have both the Zek Elliott and a Tony

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 8>Pollard in this run offense.

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 9>Do you think let's just create this scenario if Seek

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 9>was still here and they were still that combo together,

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 9>would they still be having the same type of issues

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 9>right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I don't think. I don't think.

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, right, so it wouldn't be the it's not that

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 9>difference maker. So going back to your point, this is

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 9>just me backing up your point that it is all

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 9>stemming down from the O line and there's no it's

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 9>no fur judgment to look at him and evaluate his

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 9>level of playing playing level because there's no other I.

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 10>Think I think all of it feeds into each other.

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 10>So obviously there's offensive line issues and that makes it

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 10>difficult for him to be as productive as he probably

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 10>would be otherwise. But you can't take away from the

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 10>fact that once he became RB one, there's different tasks

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 10>that are required. It's just dirty work and it's more

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 10>passed pro and it's more A and B gap runs.

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 11>It's more dirty work.

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 10>So by the time you get to uh that pointing

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 10>the Chargers game, late in the game where you need

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.959
<v Speaker 10>him to find two high gears, he found the first

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:06.360
<v Speaker 10>one and it was like, Okay, here we go. But

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 10>he didn't feel this guy because he didn't find that

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 10>the highest top top gear that probably was there when

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 10>he would have been on fresher legs. Because Zeke had

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 10>done most of the work. Well, I almost can almost

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 10>guarantee you. Now, this is theoretically, but if you put

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 10>Rico in that same play, it's probably a touchdown. Does

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:22.479
<v Speaker 10>that mean Rico's better than Tony, No, but it means

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 10>that Rico has the fresher legs. It's the RB two conversation.

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 10>It's why and we've done We've covered the Cowboys long enough,

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<v Speaker 10>all of us to understand how that works with fans.

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 10>It's Felix Jones. You should give him more. Let Julius

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 10>go and give it to Felix, and then Felix. Yeah,

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 10>he's a capable running back. But then it's like, oh, well,

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.240
<v Speaker 10>let's give it to Lance Troy Hamburg.

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 11>Right, it's the brick.

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 4>People were like, you gotta get Joy Hamberg.

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:47.760
<v Speaker 11>It was like, okay, well.

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Look at it. The reason why we're doing radio.

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 10>Let's look at Tony and you know, get rid of

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.320
<v Speaker 10>Zeke and make Tony the top dog. And now Tony's

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 10>the top dog. And they're like, ooh, Rico. So it's

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.320
<v Speaker 10>just you know, and if hypothetically, if it were Rico

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 10>as RB one next season, and then they'd be like, oh dude.

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:03.839
<v Speaker 8>It's the meme, right, it's the meme of the guy

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 8>walking with the girl that's always looking at home like

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 8>the other girl.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, it's always one at Arby two always works. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>we appreciate you guys doing to back. Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll wrap this thing up, tell you what we think

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<v Speaker 8>is gonna happen this Sunday, Cowboys versus Giant Stealing for

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<v Speaker 8>Patrick Walker.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian brought us at Amber Garcia.

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