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Speaker 6: Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 7: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 7: Were on with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Patrick Walker

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Speaker 7: and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 8: It is Thursday, November ninth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 8: episode number sixty seven.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 8: We're live from SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star and

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Speaker 8: today we're gonna get you guys ready. Continue to get

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Speaker 8: you guys ready for Cowboys versus Giants. We'll talk about

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Speaker 8: the Giants defense versus the Cowboys offense. We got some

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Speaker 8: injury updates that we will get to here in.

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Speaker 4: Just a moment.

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Speaker 8: It's some interesting comments by Mike McCarthy regarding Yrence Smith.

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Speaker 8: Will talk about that as well, real quick, if you

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Speaker 8: guys will indulge me here at the beginning the show,

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Speaker 8: I just want to take a chance to wish a

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Speaker 8: very happy birthday to very special woman in my life,

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Speaker 8: my mommy.

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Speaker 4: Heym Happy birthday, to my mom.

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Speaker 8: I know she's listening because as your mom does, Brian,

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Speaker 8: I know if there's only one that's going to listen

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Speaker 8: to show.

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Speaker 4: My mom is listening every single day.

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Speaker 8: And as she told me this morning, she was like,

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Speaker 8: I really don't care what anybody else has to say.

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Speaker 4: I'm just listening to see my baby.

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Speaker 8: So hey, mom, happy birthday, Happy birthday.

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Speaker 4: All right, So here we go. Let's get in.

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Speaker 8: Let's talk about the injury report. There were four guys

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Speaker 8: on the injury report.

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Speaker 9: Real quick. Since she's listening, she's done a good job

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Speaker 9: on her son, teaching him how to be a gentleman.

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Speaker 9: I will say this one thing that Derek does every

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Speaker 9: single time to any female. He will open the door

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Speaker 9: and let you walk and go in first. So total gentleman.

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Speaker 9: So good job.

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Speaker 10: Even face of the daily adversity he gets from his

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Speaker 10: left side, he remains staunch a gentleman.

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Speaker 8: My mom taught me well, no doubt about it. All right,

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Speaker 8: So let's jump in. Let's talk about these injuries. There

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Speaker 8: were four guys on the injury report. You have Marquise

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Speaker 8: hamstring injury. Both of them were limited. Yren Smith did

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Speaker 8: not practice with an illness. Cavante Turpin did not practice

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Speaker 8: with that shoulder, which I don't know what it's weird

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Speaker 8: but he's got something going on. Let's talk about those

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Speaker 8: injuries and kind of what we're expecting as the week progressive.

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Speaker 10: So right now in the conversations, I've had Marquise Bell

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Speaker 10: lot of concern there from the Cowboys. Yesterday was a

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Speaker 10: walkthrough for Dallas. Testament to what Mike McCarthy said earlier

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Speaker 10: this week is that this Wednesday was set to be

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Speaker 10: lighter for them. So while the Giants had a full practice,

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Speaker 10: But I don't as we have this conversation, there's no

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Speaker 10: the Giants. Today is going to be full injury report

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Speaker 10: for Thursday. We'll see if anything changes over the course

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Speaker 10: Jy Ron cursed to he was full. Tyrone Smith, Well,

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Speaker 10: Kvante Turpin, Let's go to Tyrone last Cavante Turpin. That's

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Speaker 8: Rico d punks as well. I know he's done kicks.

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Speaker 10: possibly not just for this week, but possibly going forward

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Speaker 10: for the rest of the season. I'm completely on board

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Speaker 10: with that. He is no longer a daily driver. I

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Speaker 11: Let's do it.

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Speaker 10: Because if he can continue to play at the level

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Speaker 4: Amber and Brian, you disagree, agree.

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Speaker 3: I just wish they'd all practice. Myself. I hate the

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Speaker 3: veteran day. I get what Mike's trying to do. I

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Speaker 3: does a lot of walkthroughs and stuff. I applauded for

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Speaker 3: you know, I if Tyron's going to play the way

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Speaker 3: Practices or not, we've seen him not practice before and

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Speaker 3: guys that don't practice are the ones that play major

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Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of not practicing. And if it's

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Speaker 3: work on red zone offense, tight red zone offense, pick routes,

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Speaker 3: There's something too that I think this team lacks that

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I completely agree with that. I would rather see

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Speaker 9: him practice. And who's not to say he can't. He's

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Speaker 9: So that's a tough one. But maybe they why can't

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Speaker 10: I think when you're talking about Tyron, and I don't disagree.

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Speaker 10: I'm you know, I've played sports, team sports, I've coached

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Speaker 10: you're not on the practice field, you're missing something that's

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Speaker 10: just this bottom line. I think from the Cowboys perspective,

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Speaker 10: you have to weigh that up against who you're talking about.

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Speaker 10: If we're talking about like, for example, a veteran rest

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Speaker 10: The next thinger will suffered in practice, you lost him

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Speaker 10: I'm fine with that because at his stage in his career,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they don't run the ball particularly well, and

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean they give him a veteran day,

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Speaker 9: I mean, well, we noticed when he was out from

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Speaker 3: The thing with Tyron Smith is that he could walk,

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Speaker 3: not particularly good in areas, you know, I don't think

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Speaker 3: just walking through is the right thing to do.

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Speaker 2: And then you know they've they He prides himself on practice.

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Speaker 3: Mike always talks about how much he likes to practice

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Speaker 2: You know, this team has.

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Speaker 10: Because you're again you're you're you're playing the risk rewater

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Speaker 11: It's the right side that needs to get it figured out.

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Speaker 2: They were ready last week.

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Speaker 3: We're all we're all fighting the mission, but we got

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Speaker 3: you know, we got somebody over here in Kat too,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, do we want to

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Speaker 4: Sounds like Sean Lee. That's where they will Sean Lee

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Speaker 2: But I just, like I said, I think practice.

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Speaker 3: I think practice is important, and I know Alan Iverson

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Speaker 9: no athletes. I'm not athletes whatsoever. No, sorry, so I'm sorry,

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Speaker 9: that's just working out. I'm no athlete. But if I

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Speaker 9: It's just there's no other way to replicate that moment

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Speaker 11: I agree.

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Speaker 10: I think if he has an average or even slightly

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Speaker 10: do it again. So to your point, your one hundred

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Speaker 10: it's exclusive. The conversation is to tyring because of where

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Speaker 8: All Right, here's what I'm to do. I want to

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Speaker 4: If he's telling the truth, he's running as fast as

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Speaker 2: We did the receipts.

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Speaker 8: They didn't say a name, they just said the fastest, well,

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Speaker 9: Let's go the chronometer and go yeah.

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Speaker 8: But my question is, if that is true, does it

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Speaker 8: know as a scout type guy, but if he's running

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Speaker 11: To use it.

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Speaker 3: I think when you talk to anybody in the organization,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just looking.

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Speaker 3: They're looking to see if they if they can find

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Speaker 3: Britt Brown's gonna get this guy in the best shape

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Speaker 10: Well, first, we want to believe you, Martavis. We need

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we need the receipt.

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Speaker 10: But but I'll say, if we're talking strictly on if

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Speaker 10: The answer is no, if we're talking strictly speed, because

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Speaker 10: got speed. You wouldn't necessarily have speed with that size.

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Speaker 10: With that size, but I'm right there with Brian. It's

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Speaker 10: And then you know Seede Lamb's going to be Ceede Lambs.

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Speaker 10: So I think it's just, you know, it's kicking the tires,

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Speaker 8: Though, yeah, you know that there are ways you can

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Speaker 4: Maybe it is can he make a play for you?

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Speaker 8: Like literally you get into one of these type games,

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Speaker 9: How successful would you say the Cowboys have been at

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Speaker 10: It's possible it's a little bit more of a gap

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Speaker 10: different caliber there, but you know it's still possible. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I'm just saying. I was, Yeah, I was thinking more

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I was trying to look it up.

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Speaker 8: Because I was thinking he's coming right off the couch,

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Speaker 4: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 8: Let's talk about the New York Giants defense. Since the

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Speaker 8: last time the Cowboys played them, they did trade away

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Speaker 8: what I think is probably safe to say their best

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Speaker 8: defensive player, or at least among their very best defensive

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Speaker 8: players in Leonard Williams. Brian how much did that change

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Speaker 8: their defense when they traded him away?

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Speaker 3: It hurt them in a way, and because they're trying

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Speaker 3: to kind of figure out what's going on inside it tackle,

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Speaker 3: but you're still going to have to deal with Dexter Lawrence,

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Speaker 3: you know, he in my opinion, you know, with Thibodeaux

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Speaker 3: is listed as an outside linebacker, he really plays like

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Speaker 3: an edge.

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Speaker 2: Jihad Ward is the other one.

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Speaker 3: So you know, if that right there, Lawrence Thibodeaux Ward,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of their past Russian group. And as we

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Speaker 3: all know, this is a very blitz heavy team. I

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Speaker 3: think percent of the time they're gonna blitch you here

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Speaker 3: and the down they do it on, which I thought

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Speaker 3: was interesting. I was like, where they do this, it's

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Speaker 3: second down, like fifty eight percent of the time they're

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Speaker 3: gonna blitz, and you kind of watch the tape, You're like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I see what they're doing here. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: it really does start with I could very well see

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Speaker 3: them in this game, guys taking Dexter Lawrence and putting

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Speaker 3: him right over the nose of Tyler Biattish and say

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Speaker 3: block because he's done that a couple of the games

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Speaker 3: I was watching, the last two the Jets, he caused a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of problems inside. He caused problems.

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Speaker 3: Against the Raiders as well, just pushing the center back

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Speaker 3: into the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So that's where you're going to have to deal.

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Speaker 3: Thibodeau is a guy that Thibodau had one of his

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Speaker 3: best games, by the way, against the Jets when he

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Speaker 3: watched tab. He had three sacks in that game and

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Speaker 3: he looked like the player that we all kind of

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Speaker 3: thought he was going to be. So that's kind of

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Speaker 3: what they got going up front with their with their group.

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Speaker 8: You mentioned Thibodeau. Where where is he going to typically?

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Speaker 8: Where are you going to typically seeing him line see

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Speaker 8: him line up, and who's going to be the cowboy

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Speaker 8: player that's primarily going to see him most of the day.

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Speaker 3: Well, if I'm the Giants, I'm gonna put him over

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Speaker 3: on the right side because he plays both sides.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he can play. So what I'm gonna do is

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put.

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Speaker 3: Him on the on on the on the Giants left

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Speaker 3: your right and I'm gonna test. I'm gonna test Terrence

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Speaker 3: Steele in this one to see if he can hold up.

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Speaker 3: You know, these teams they look for weaknesses along the line,

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Speaker 3: and I think a couple of spots that the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: have had some concerns have been at their center spot

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Speaker 3: and then at right tackle a little bit. So they'll

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Speaker 3: take their two best players and put them in those spots.

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Speaker 2: I believe.

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Speaker 8: Thinking about the skill set of Thibodeau and the skill

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Speaker 8: set of Steel and where still is okay and where

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Speaker 8: he's struggling this year, how does that match up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the The thing with Thibodeau is he

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Speaker 3: you know, for a big guy, he doesn't play with

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Speaker 3: a whole lot of power. He's more of a try

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Speaker 3: to kind of beat you with Try to get to

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Speaker 3: your shoulder, try to beat you with some quickness, try

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Speaker 3: and dip underneath you. You know, the hand placement, all

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Speaker 3: that stuff could be a lot better for him. He

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Speaker 3: relies more on he's gonna get the edge and he's

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Speaker 3: gonna be able to get underneath you to get to

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Speaker 3: the quarterback. So, uh, I think where I think where

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Speaker 3: Steel needs to be a little careful is as much

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Speaker 3: as he's had some of the issues on the edge

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Speaker 3: and gets over maybe overthinks it a little bit and thinks,

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Speaker 3: I have to be outside. I have to be outside,

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Speaker 3: and then that, and then Thibodeau comes back inside.

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Speaker 2: That's where I.

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Speaker 3: Would worry a little bit right now, being really heavy

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Speaker 3: trying to stay outside on the outside foot on his

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Speaker 3: right foot, and then Thibodeau taking him back inside because

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Speaker 3: he's capable of doing both rushes that way.

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Speaker 9: The best who's the best stop in the run.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be Lawrence. It's gonna be this this when

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Speaker 3: you watch them play, Lawrence is the defensive tackle makes

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Speaker 3: a lot of plays inside because if you run the

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Speaker 3: ball at him, he's going to just disengage the blocks

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Speaker 3: and get He also can work a couple of gaps

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Speaker 3: down is what he can do. They've got uh uh

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Speaker 3: Bobby Bobby Okarike, the okaik the linebackers a good player

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Speaker 3: for them. He's he's a kind of a downhill player.

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Speaker 3: So the defensive tackle and then the middle linebacker or

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Speaker 3: the two of the best players when it comes to

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Speaker 3: defending the run. You're thinking about running the ball this week,

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Speaker 3: or try to run the ball actually.

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Speaker 9: Like to see something a little bit of established or

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Speaker 9: starting to establish that wherever you can, at whatever point,

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Speaker 9: I think, just to start building up a little bit

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Speaker 9: more confidence in that area of the game.

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Speaker 4: So let me throw this at you.

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Speaker 8: I was looking at some of the numbers around the

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Speaker 8: Giants rush defense. They are twenty fifth in rush defense

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Speaker 8: in the league. Not only that, they're twenty eighth in

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Speaker 8: yards per carry. They're allowing four point six yards per carry.

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Speaker 8: When you think about that and considering the fact that

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Speaker 8: they've allowed one hundred and twenty five plus rushing yards

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Speaker 8: in seven of their nine games, give up a WAP

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Speaker 8: in two twenty two at Miami, it looks like it

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Speaker 8: maybe it.

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Speaker 4: Could be a game where you could get right with

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Speaker 4: your running games.

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Speaker 11: So you're seeing there's a cha, there's a chance.

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Speaker 2: There's a chance.

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Speaker 3: But but to me, it's gonna have to be can

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Speaker 3: you block? Can you block that defensive tackle?

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Speaker 2: Lawrence? I think, can can you know? Then?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, evidently when you look at the

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Speaker 3: games and stuff like that, the thing about it is

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Speaker 3: to me, and when I watched the Giants play, I

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Speaker 3: just the thing I worry the most about them is like,

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Speaker 3: if you just commit to saying, Okay, we're gonna we're

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Speaker 3: gonna throw the ball here today. We're gonna try and

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Speaker 3: throw the ball the pressure there, blitz pressure. And maybe

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Speaker 3: this is a time where Dallas could say, well, let's

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Speaker 3: try and load up and run the ball here, and

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Speaker 3: let's try and be successful at it. But I think

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Speaker 3: the Giants kind of also know that too, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: I think they're they're sitting there thinking, well, Dallas wants

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Speaker 3: to try and get right running the ball here, you know,

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Speaker 3: and so how do you play? I mean, they're the

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Speaker 3: reason I think the Giants give up plays. And they're

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Speaker 3: really their linebackers are like really aggressive, uh with him,

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Speaker 3: and uh they McFadden's another one.

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Speaker 2: They overrun.

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Speaker 3: They're really they they they really bite heavy when you

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Speaker 3: like give them that run action. They're coming forward because

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Speaker 3: they're committed to they're committed to trying to play the run.

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Speaker 3: Because of what Derek was talking about Xavier McKinny of

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Speaker 3: the safety, these guys are all trying to fly down

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Speaker 3: inside there to stop the run because they have had

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Speaker 3: some problems with it. But Dallas has got to prove

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Speaker 3: to me that they can run the ball. You know,

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Speaker 3: if you go into a game and you're playing against

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Speaker 3: the twenty fifth best run defense in the league and

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Speaker 3: you don't.

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Speaker 2: Have success running the ball. Now you've really really got

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Speaker 2: some problems in this one. But it's going to be

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Speaker 2: have to block.

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be about having to block

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Speaker 3: the making sure that you take care of lowrence and

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Speaker 3: then take care of their linebackers.

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Speaker 11: I think.

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Speaker 10: I mean, like you said, they rank pretty poorly as

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Speaker 10: far as run defense is concerned, and kind of going

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Speaker 10: to Brian's point, they if they feel like that's where

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Speaker 10: you're going to try to attack them first, attack them

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Speaker 10: in the air first, and then use that to kind

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Speaker 10: of set up your run and then there you go.

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Speaker 11: There's your rushing attack right there.

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Speaker 10: Because they're not great at pass defense, which Brian will

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Speaker 10: get to in a moment. So I mean, however you

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Speaker 10: want to attack it, this is a game where you

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Speaker 10: can get the run game going. I just wouldn't go

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Speaker 10: at it probably merely. I mean, and you're doing so

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Speaker 10: well as far as explosiveness with Ceedee Lamb and Jake Ferguson, like,

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Speaker 10: don't hank that, keep that going, apply use that to

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Speaker 10: apply pressure and keep that momentum moving forward and then

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Speaker 10: they'll start backing off and then here comes that twenty fifth,

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Speaker 10: twenty sixth rank run defense unable to stop Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 10: Rico Dala.

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Speaker 9: But okay, this might be a dumb question, but it's okay.

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Speaker 9: If they're bad at it, that's stopping the run anyways, regardless,

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Speaker 9: why does it matter whether they know or.

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Speaker 10: Because they'll throw they scheme for they'll throw extra bodies

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Speaker 10: at it, they'll put more bodies in the box and

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Speaker 10: things like that.

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Speaker 2: So you haven't proved it. You've proven you can't run

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Speaker 2: the ball. I mean you've had well you I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: say proven you you struggle running the.

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Speaker 4: Ball, shown you can.

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Speaker 3: So if yeah, if if their their their thought has

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Speaker 3: to be. You know when you look at Wink Martin

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Speaker 3: del their defensive coordinator, if I'm him, I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: if I if I would worry more about Dak and

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Speaker 3: CD and Ferguson than I would anybody else. Those are

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Speaker 3: the guys I need. Because you haven't proven to me

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Speaker 3: that you can run the ball against anybody you know,

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Speaker 3: good or bad. You know that mean they just haven't

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Speaker 3: had success doing it. And you know, Philadelphia, we knew Philip.

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Speaker 3: But there's team you know, there's teams that we might

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Speaker 3: believe we saw last week with our own eyes. Philadelphia

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Speaker 3: plays poor pass defense. You know that might be the

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Speaker 3: way to beat Philadelphia. Now, don't run the ball. And

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Speaker 3: it might be people don't want to run the ball

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Speaker 3: because it's like, no, we'll throw the ball in these

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Speaker 3: guys because if we could block their fronts, then we

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Speaker 3: can throw the ball in the secondary.

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Speaker 8: But you know, honestly, I think if I were the Giants,

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Speaker 8: I take the opposite approach Brian, and what you're saying,

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Speaker 8: I would actually say I would come into this game

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Speaker 8: saying I got a cool Dak Prescott off.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I'm playing past these.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm I'm like, I'm keeping seven back. Yeah, and

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Speaker 8: I might blitz every once in a while. But also

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Speaker 8: the other parts of that too, is when you got

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Speaker 8: a team like Theirs, where offensively they're going to struggle,

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Speaker 8: you want to keep the game close. So the last

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Speaker 8: thing you do is give a big plays. So I'd

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Speaker 8: be like, I'm not giving up any big plays. I'm

717
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Speaker 8: keeping everything underneath me. I'm going to force Dallas to

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Speaker 8: drive methodically down the field and not make a mistake.

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Speaker 8: That's how I think I would approach it if I

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Speaker 8: were the Jackson, and maybe they will, but that's how

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Speaker 8: I think they have to approach it, right. I think

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Speaker 8: that's the only shot they got in approaching this game,

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Speaker 8: and I.

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Speaker 10: Would love for them to approach it that way because

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Speaker 10: they're going to get absolutely eaten alive. And that's why

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Speaker 10: I say keep the moment. I'm going keep the electricity

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Speaker 10: going in this passing attack because if they for them,

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Speaker 10: I could see how that makes sense.

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Speaker 11: But that's a bad play for them. That's a bad play.

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Speaker 11: They don't really.

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Speaker 3: They're no, They're they're struggling because their offense is so bad.

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Speaker 4: Their offense is so bad and affects everything else.

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Speaker 3: It affects how they have to play defense, and they

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Speaker 3: have to. They have to now they're they're banged up

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Speaker 3: in the secondary right now. I mean, we'll see Dorr

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Speaker 3: Jackson gotta suffered. He hurt his neck in the Buffalo game,

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Speaker 3: concussion and then he got to get out or is

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Speaker 3: he I talked to my guys with the Giants this morning.

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Speaker 3: He was there's there's a chance that he's going to

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Speaker 3: be available, So that means would be him and Banks

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Speaker 3: would likely be at the corner. Nick McLeod played last

742
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Speaker 3: week and he wasn't terrible in the game where they're

743
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Speaker 3: bad as Cordell Flock is the nickel and he's been struggling.

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Speaker 3: He plays really loose, and that's a problem for them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes he's up on it, sometimes he's back.

746
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Speaker 3: He gives up plays, he gives up routes. He doesn't

747
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Speaker 3: tackle particularly well. So I I don't know if they

748
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Speaker 3: want to sit there and blitz Dak in this game.

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Speaker 3: I would make, like you guys were talking about to me,

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Speaker 3: make Dallas have to drive the ball, because when Dallas

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Speaker 3: drives the ball, are they going to make a mistake

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Speaker 3: you know, legal motion?

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Speaker 2: Are they going to give up a sack? Are they

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Speaker 2: gonna you.

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Speaker 3: Know, what's going to happen in this game. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: the plan for me would Yeah, I would worry, But

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Speaker 3: like I said, I would worry about Dak a lot

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Speaker 3: in this game. If I was the Giants, I would

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Speaker 3: do everything in my power to make sure you take

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Speaker 3: care of him first and then work from the others

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Speaker 3: if you.

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Speaker 11: Can do it.

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Speaker 10: If you can, I don't think they don't have the

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Speaker 10: horses to do it. And here's here's something that that

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Speaker 10: I found that's actually promising to in the regards of

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Speaker 10: a concern that you and we had coming out of

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Speaker 10: the San Francisco game. Dak Prescott and these receivers excel

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Speaker 10: at exposing zone coverage, but when a defense switches to man,

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Speaker 10: the Cowboys were struggling.

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Speaker 11: Dak was struggling with that.

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Speaker 10: Well, they went into a Philadelphia game where Philly was

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Speaker 10: averaging roughly seven plus ish percent zone defense, but they

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Speaker 10: dropped that and it was almost a fifty to fifty spot. Okay,

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Speaker 10: Dak Prescott versus man coverage in Philly thirteen for twenty

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Speaker 10: one eight two touchdowns plus ten point eight so almost

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Speaker 10: eleven percent completion percentage above expectation. So Dak Prescott, and

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Speaker 10: this is why I say keep that momentum going with

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Speaker 10: Ceedee Lamb and Jake Ferguson, because now it's starting to

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Speaker 10: come together where Dak Prescott can pick apart man coverage

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Speaker 10: as well as he can pick apart zone. The Giants

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Speaker 10: don't have a recourse for this. They just they don't.

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Speaker 8: The more the season is going on, the more it's

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Speaker 8: becoming apparent, at least to me, that I think the

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Speaker 8: issues that the offense was dealing with early in the

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Speaker 8: season were growing pains. They were figuring out this offense.

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Speaker 8: They figuring out how to get dak At made it

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Speaker 8: in this offense, and I think now they're starting to

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Speaker 8: figure it out. And that's why I think they've been

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Speaker 8: on this roll these last couple weeks.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go and take our final break. We'll

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Speaker 8: Let's turn our attention to the Cowboys offense. Here's a

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Speaker 8: question I have for you, guys, is there a noticeable

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Speaker 8: difference for you between Tony Pollard of previous seasons and

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Speaker 8: of twenty twenty three, Because I know there's been a

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Speaker 8: but how much of that is about Tony Pollard. How

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Speaker 10: He's different to me, and I'm not surprised because be clear,

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Speaker 10: in what ways I think as the season where is along,

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Speaker 10: RB one and have to do the dirty work and

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Speaker 10: to doing, and that's going to take some of his explosiveness,

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Speaker 10: some of his home earn ability, particularly as you get

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Speaker 10: midway and in the back end.

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Speaker 11: Of the season.

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Speaker 10: So because there's some plays on a film where I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 10: normally the Tony Pollard previously to twenty twenty three would

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Speaker 10: have hit that lane and gotten ten fifteen yards, maybe

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Speaker 10: that's a home run ball. But Tony Pollard in twenty

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Speaker 10: twenty three he either doesn't see that lane or he

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Speaker 10: hits that lane, but not with the same explosiveness. So

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Speaker 10: just leads me to wonder how much of carrying the

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Speaker 10: RB one load and doing that dirty work in the

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Speaker 10: heavy lifting has siphoned some of his explosiveness, which also

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00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 10: is why RB two, which was Tony Pollard, now it's

875
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,479
Speaker 10: ric o' daudo has those fresh legs and he's showing

876
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 10: that explosiveness.

877
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 11: That's just the dynamical figure, go figure.

878
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 10: And we talked you say that sacentiously because we talked

879
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 10: about this in training camp, what does Tony Pollard RB

880
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 10: one look like? And we said, I know, Adburn on

881
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 10: the same page with this. We don't think that it

882
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 10: looks anything like Tony Pollard RB two because you have

883
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 10: to take on more duties and you're taking more hits

884
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 10: because you're getting more reps. And as the weeks roll along,

885
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 10: you start to find out this is why Ezekiel Elliott

886
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 10: in December would deal with the PCO issue, This is

887
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 10: why Ezekiel Elliott would deal with this ailment and that ailment.

888
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 10: And it's just not there like it was. Not to

889
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 10: say he can't still hit the home run. I believe

890
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 10: he can, but this is a different version of Tony

891
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 10: Pollard and people just need to get used to it.

892
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 10: You're not going to see the one you saw in

893
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 10: twenty twenty two and twenty twenty one that now is

894
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 10: Ricodoudo because that's how it plays out in the RB

895
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 10: one RB two dynamic.

896
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 9: Yep, where are all the z caters now? It's just

897
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 9: one of those things you presented a perfect because now

898
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 9: I do see some people online wanting to see more,

899
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 9: and it's okay. The stories before now to be fair,

900
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 9: to be fair, the old line has not been what

901
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 9: you like it to be, so there we got to

902
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 9: take that into account. There are a lot of times

903
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 9: because of the on line playing the way that they are,

904
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 9: I feel like there are times where Tony is given

905
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 9: more responsibility as a blocker to kind of help. He's

906
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 9: done well, but it's still taking away from you just

907
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 9: being that guy that runs with their legs and takes

908
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 9: off with the ball. So I think, yeah, he hasn't

909
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 9: been that guy. He's gone. He has a lot more

910
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 9: responsibilities on his back that he's having to endure game

911
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 9: after game. But again, you got to look at the

912
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 9: old line and how that looks. And we very very

913
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 9: well known that the old line is the one kind

914
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 9: of create well not kind of they are the ones

915
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 9: creating those holes for you and it just it hasn't

916
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 9: been there for the for the running backs really this season.

917
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the old line and the tight ends can't get

918
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: him to and through the hole. That's that's the biggest

919
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 3: issue right now. They're trying to scheme ways of doing this,

920
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: whether it's pulling guys, it's uh, you know, with some

921
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: of the combination blocks, but they don't win at the

922
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: point of attack nearly enough. The right side surely hasn't

923
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: won like it used to win with Steel and you know,

924
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: I think you're dealing with his injuries of him trying

925
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: to come back.

926
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: They just haven't been as strong. And then when they

927
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: have had opportunities, unfortunately they had a big run the

928
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: other day, got called back for holding. You know, with

929
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: scoon Maker, you know, they've.

930
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: Had some that have got to and through and and

931
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: you know when they can, they can, you know they can,

932
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: They're capable of doing that. He's clearly different. I don't

933
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: think he's healthy enough right now. I think the injuries

934
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: has hurt him. It's unfortunate for him because he's trying

935
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 3: to you know, he's trying to, you know, get another contract.

936
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 3: He's playing on a franchise tag right now, and you're

937
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: starting to hear the whispers Woul Dallas consider drafting a

938
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: running back in the first round. Now you're starting to hear,

939
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: you know, you're starting to see people talk about, well,

940
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: did they just need to move on from all these

941
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 3: running backs and address that in the next to next year.

942
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: So I think as long as the offensive line continues

943
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 3: to struggle, you'll see Tony Pollard struggle.

944
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 10: And Tony, to his credit because he had a touchdown

945
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 10: that was deleted because of the illegal formation penalty. So

946
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 10: I mean, he's he's grinding and he's doing what he

947
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 10: can do. It's just it's a different seat. So it's

948
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 10: a different Tony because it's different requirements, and like we

949
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 10: all agreed, offensive line isn't helping him at all.

950
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 11: But then you'd go back to the tight ends and

951
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 11: there also.

952
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 10: But then when you go back and you look at

953
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 10: let's say the Charges game, for example, dek extends to

954
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 10: play hits Pollard, he turns that into a sixty yarder

955
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 10: that before he was tackled. You're like, Okay, this looks

956
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 10: like twenty twenty two Tony Pollard. But the fact he

957
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 10: didn't feel this guy right here that felt like the

958
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 10: twenty twenty three Tony Popp right and.

959
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 8: Also just he even talked about after the game. He's

960
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 8: like that, that's one that I should have taken into

961
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 8: the house. And I don't know if he had that

962
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 8: extra gear at that point to take it to.

963
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: The house or not.

964
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 11: It's doing the dirty work.

965
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 8: But the one thing that keeps popping up in my

966
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 8: head is a conversation that I know you had it

967
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 8: with Pete. I had it with Skip Pete. He even

968
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 8: talked about it to the media in general, is his

969
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 8: belief was in order to get the best out of

970
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 8: Tony Pollard, Tony Pollard needed that extra back taking that, Yeah,

971
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 8: you needed that. In order to get the very best

972
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 8: out of him. You have to manage his number of reps.

973
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 8: And I'm wondering, again, I don't know that we've seen

974
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 8: enough to make a definitive stavement, but I'm wondering if

975
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 8: that's all playing out now to where just that added

976
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 8: amount of number of reps, added number of hits, that

977
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 8: the cumulative of that, the cumulative of that maybe affects

978
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 8: him in a way to where you don't get the

979
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 8: same level of explosiveness that you would have gotten in

980
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 8: past years with him. We don't know for sure, but

981
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 8: I do think, because I agree with you, Brian, until

982
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 8: the offensive line starts doing their part and the tight

983
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 8: ends start doing their part, it's hard to really evaluate him.

984
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 8: I don't think he's getting a fair shot at this,

985
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 8: But I do wonder if some of that is what

986
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 8: skip Pete talked about and why he thought it was

987
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 8: necessary to have both the Zek Elliott and a Tony

988
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 8: Pollard in this run offense.

989
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 9: Do you think let's just create this scenario if Seek

990
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 9: was still here and they were still that combo together,

991
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 9: would they still be having the same type of issues

992
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 9: right now?

993
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think. I don't think.

994
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, so it wouldn't be the it's not that

995
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 9: difference maker. So going back to your point, this is

996
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 9: just me backing up your point that it is all

997
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 9: stemming down from the O line and there's no it's

998
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 9: no fur judgment to look at him and evaluate his

999
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 9: level of playing playing level because there's no other I.

1000
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 10: Think I think all of it feeds into each other.

1001
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 10: So obviously there's offensive line issues and that makes it

1002
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 10: difficult for him to be as productive as he probably

1003
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 10: would be otherwise. But you can't take away from the

1004
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 10: fact that once he became RB one, there's different tasks

1005
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 10: that are required. It's just dirty work and it's more

1006
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 10: passed pro and it's more A and B gap runs.

1007
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 11: It's more dirty work.

1008
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 10: So by the time you get to uh that pointing

1009
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 10: the Chargers game, late in the game where you need

1010
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 10: him to find two high gears, he found the first

1011
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 10: one and it was like, Okay, here we go. But

1012
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 10: he didn't feel this guy because he didn't find that

1013
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 10: the highest top top gear that probably was there when

1014
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 10: he would have been on fresher legs. Because Zeke had

1015
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 10: done most of the work. Well, I almost can almost

1016
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 10: guarantee you. Now, this is theoretically, but if you put

1017
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 10: Rico in that same play, it's probably a touchdown. Does

1018
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 10: that mean Rico's better than Tony, No, but it means

1019
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 10: that Rico has the fresher legs. It's the RB two conversation.

1020
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 10: It's why and we've done We've covered the Cowboys long enough,

1021
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 10: all of us to understand how that works with fans.

1022
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 10: It's Felix Jones. You should give him more. Let Julius

1023
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 10: go and give it to Felix, and then Felix. Yeah,

1024
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 10: he's a capable running back. But then it's like, oh, well,

1025
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 10: let's give it to Lance Troy Hamburg.

1026
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 11: Right, it's the brick.

1027
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: People were like, you gotta get Joy Hamberg.

1028
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 11: It was like, okay, well.

1029
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: Look at it. The reason why we're doing radio.

1030
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 10: Let's look at Tony and you know, get rid of

1031
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 10: Zeke and make Tony the top dog. And now Tony's

1032
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 10: the top dog. And they're like, ooh, Rico. So it's

1033
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 10: just you know, and if hypothetically, if it were Rico

1034
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 10: as RB one next season, and then they'd be like, oh dude.

1035
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 8: It's the meme, right, it's the meme of the guy

1036
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 8: walking with the girl that's always looking at home like

1037
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 8: the other girl.

1038
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: Right, it's always one at Arby two always works. All right,

1039
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 4: we appreciate you guys doing to back. Tomorrow.

1040
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 8: We'll wrap this thing up, tell you what we think

1041
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 8: is gonna happen this Sunday, Cowboys versus Giant Stealing for

1042
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 8: Patrick Walker.

1043
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: Brian brought us at Amber Garcia.

1044
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,960
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1045
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,040
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1046
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1047
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