WEBVTT - Conversations About The Color Purple 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.400 What's up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.520 Sealer's podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:08.720 low glasses Malone. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:21.439 So it's it's called lollipopp or oli pop. It's a 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:25.840 prebiotic botanical plant fiber bullshit. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.200 Why is it bullshit? It's good for you. It's good 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:31.960 for your good health. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.600 If you drink that, you gotta wear diapers. 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.639 It's not like that bad because it's like they make 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.159 it an a vintage colon um hm cola. 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:43.280 And what's good for you don't even mix in my mind. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.720 Yeah, I agree with you there. I think that's some bullshit. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.199 But it's like it's like it's like how everybody is 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:57.840 doing those uh like Beyond burgers, like they got like 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:07.200 vegan chicken strips, like chickens chicken. It is no, it's not. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.399 It's the same thought because like this is not like 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.399 high in sugar and it's made to help your good health. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:17.000 So it's it's flavored to taste like cola, like how 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.840 they taste excuse me, those plants and then flavorom that 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.880 tastes like beef or chicken. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:28.679 When I when I did that. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.240 That plant tastes like coca cola. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:35.560 Yeah, yes, know not yes, it does. It's not a 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.040 good version of just like beyond meat. Don't taste like meat. No, 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.720 I don't like they can season it. But when you 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:47.000 actually if you most people don't taste they fucking food anyway. True, 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.880 most people don't taste they fucking food to know the difference. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.160 So I'm a textra person, so that automatically, when I 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.280 taste it, I was like, that is not meat. It's not. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.080 They got all kinds of chicken lists. Remember we had 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.960 them Chicken list chickens trips that time. It was like somewhere, man, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:02.559 let's put. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:09.000 Me in this bridge is talking to you. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:09.600 You know what I'm saying. 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.440 No, y'all should just eat the oyster mushrooms. They're good. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.239 They're like, you can eat those, you can fry those 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.320 up like chicken. And I promise you to taste like chicken. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.760 I'm not I would I do that when I get chicken. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.200 I'm just saying, if you were to want to do 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.880 some vegan meals, you can do an oyster mushroom. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.480 I don't believe in vegans or vegan people in general, 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:31.520 because anytime you start it's like it's like a woman 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.400 imagine a woman that's like she's like a like an 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:40.320 advocate of you know, like woman's right and anti rape, 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.840 but then in behind scenes she does rape fantasies. That's 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.160 how it is to me when you're getting vegan meat products. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.480 Okay, but I was lost when she said oyster mushroom 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:51.360 tastes like chicken. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.799 That's a texture of it and everything, and you put 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.720 it in the oyster chicken. I'm trying to tell you, guys, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.360 like it's good taste. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.480 Buds can't even create that in my brain. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.080 Yeah, that's shit crazy, and that's that bullshit though. But 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.560 all these vegans, like I seen somebody trying to give 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.200 me a vegan meat loaf, and I'm like, it's called 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.280 a meat loaf, because why would I have a vegan 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:17.880 meatloaf that's called a fucking meatloaf? Vean, Like, why would 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.320 you have a meatless meat loaf? 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.760 I feel them, like why you call it? 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.280 I'm cool with a jackfruit taco, right, So that's a 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.359 jack but like, why are you a jack fruit? It's 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.720 like a plant, like a fruit, jackfruit. It's like an apple. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:31.280 It's like apple. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:35.440 It's a texture is like shredded beef. Basically you could 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:36.040 pull it. 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.040 It tastes like beef. See that's the difference, though, don't 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:39.680 taste like beef. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.520 Okay, that's why I think vegans is full of shit. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.720 Like if you was a real vegan, you wouldn't be 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.560 trying to eat imposture meat. 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.200 There you go, that's a good, good point. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.880 I was eating a lot of mushrooms, a lot of 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:58.160 beans like stuff like that. Vegan. Yeah, I did it 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.680 for like six or seven months or. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.640 I won a whole year without eating meat. But I 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.360 wasn't really fucking with like beyond shit. I was like, Okay, 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.280 if I'm not gonna eat meat, I'm gonna eat just 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:14.680 vegetables like I eat mushrooms and this, like you know, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.080 excuse me. I wasn't a vegan. I was a vegetarian. 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:19.520 So it's like cause, you know, like if I did, 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.040 I would eat eggs and mushrooms. But I wasn't getting 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:27.880 imposter meat to make myself feel like you know what 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.000 I'm saying, like why would I do this? 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:30.200 Oh? 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.640 I got like a question for you, sir, like am 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.840 I where am I? I'm on a farm? Where am I? 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.080 What do you mean? Who are you on a farm? 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:45.839 Because they have vegetables. Oh, nigga, everybody that clicked this link. No, 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:47.200 they're listening to No Ceilings. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.440 Okay, I thought it was on a farm or something. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:50.880 He's talking the vegans and everything. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.760 I was like, nigga, you don't have to say you 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.560 on No Selllings, nigga. If you click the link to 0:04:55.680 --> 0:05:00.440 the podcast, it was like No Ceilings podcasts, Glasses Malone here, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.680 King Engineering, nigga. They know they the expression just like 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.720 this is coming on the radio and it's like song 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.840 number six and it's just pop on like Nia. It's 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:09.200 not act. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.520 It might pop on that song number five. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.320 It's a podcast and the only way you can hear 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:19.680 it is if you click the No Ceilings link and 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:20.160 click it. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:24.000 Okay, good, I'm on No Ceilings. I'm happy now. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.800 Again for like the twentieth time. But go for what 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:27.120 you know. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.920 Oh, we don't get paid for saying that you don't 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.600 get paid for this shit? Really not. Ain't no Ceilings, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.359 no pay. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.960 He'll pay. But no, this is what I wanted to 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:39.520 talk to you all about, because this is shit. Is 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.520 fucking me up. So I've been watching I've watched The 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.240 Color Purple three times in the last week to get 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.840 prepared for the new color purple. Oh yeah, coming out 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.320 with a new color purple. So I've been prepared for 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.080 the new color purple, right, but I was watching the 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.800 old color purple. And you know what fucked me up? 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:02.120 Mister wasn't that bad. When I was young, I thought, 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.119 I know, I know, I swear to God, right, Like, look, 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.880 I thought mister was a terrorist. I'm like, this is 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.680 the worst man in the history of humans. But then 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.760 I thought about it, right, And as I revisited the film, 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.240 and I watched it again, and I was like, so 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:21.159 he didn't even want Seay to be his wife, right, 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.560 He wasn't into her attractively. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:24.360 Right. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.240 But the father or the stepfather that we come to 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:31.280 find out is the stepfather, right, is he's trying to 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.640 get rid of Sely. So he sells Sealy off and 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.760 mister takes her like, Okay, well, look i'm gonna buy you. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.039 You're gonna be my wife, right, and we're gonna do 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:45.200 this thing together. So therefore there was already like this disconnect, 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.200 and he took her on as a project. So when 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:52.760 he finally gets her, right, when he finally gets her 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.599 to his house, right, he got her doing stuff right. 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.320 He helped the kids hair, and she's calling the kids 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.040 hair in the kids hair is nappy because obviously the 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.000 kids mom died, right, right, so she combed the hair. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.599 She's complaining the whole fucking time about combing the kids hair. No, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.480 she's not, she is complaining. You remember, tell the truth. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.520 He was like, shut her up the kids. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.760 No, no, that's not you jumped from one part to another. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.320 He said, why is her hair so nappy like? And 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:19.640 nobody combed her hair. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:21.760 And then she said she had to shave it off. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:22.360 I remember, he. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.000 Said, why would she say? She said, shut your hair. She's like, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.680 you can't. And he listened because he's mind you back 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.040 in that time, right, you will take your wife at 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.200 fourteen to fifteen because you want to have big families, 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.040 big families who consider wealth. You know, there wasn't no 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.200 more slaves in the early nineteen hundred, so you needed 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.280 kids to work the forums and shit, right, so you 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.840 had big families. And mister had a big family, had 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.800 a lot of kids. It wasn't just harpo, right, So 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.560 he had all these kids, right. So Couz was like, 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.360 he had a big family. So he came and got 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.400 a wife, right is seely right? He the step pops 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:59.120 pond seely off on cuz right, So he getting her 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.720 to comb the daughter hair. She called her daughter complaining 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.560 in the whole time, right, and he like yeah. She's like, well, 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.280 we gotta just cut it off and start over. He's like, 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.880 you can't cut no little girl's hair off and she 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.560 just keep on talking. Now this is the part I 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.360 don't agree. Right. When he wanted to reprimand her, he 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:18.080 slapped her. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.520 All she said was I can't. It hurts her? 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.600 No, yes that she kept complaining, we. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.640 Can't we get a I watched this movie every time. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:27.160 That's the only thing she said. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:28.040 Yes, she said I can. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.280 She didn't keep going. Every time he says something out 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.839 of her, she covered her. It was the third time 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.280 he said something. You know what he did? You know 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.800 what happened after he slapped her. She figured out a 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.640 way to shut her ass up. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.600 She covered the damn baby's mouth. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.040 Which is what you would do if you was calling 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:51.280 your kids here. No, yes, you would, yes, shut up, 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.800 let me calmb your hair. Yes, I would say your son. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.960 I was tenderheaded, so I know, like that hurt. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.360 Yeah, but who cares? Is just tender headed. That's why 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:00.360 it's called tender headed. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.240 I know, but I used to be. I didn't want 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.680 nobody to cut, like, do anything to my hair, Like. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.000 You don't cares what you care? We trying to make 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:08.760 you look presentable on the outside. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.240 I feel that we don't want you to go outside. 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.000 Noo, I didn't say that. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.240 Hold on, hold on on. You just backed up when 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.080 mister was saying about don't cut his little girl's hair off, 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.600 because you just said you didn't want your hair cut 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:22.360 at all. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.319 I did it, So you just backed. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:25.160 Up mister's position. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.839 And I say, mister is not that bad. I say, 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.280 mister was a great, outstanding him and being I said, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.319 he wasn't that bad. So right, the thing I didn't 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.760 agree with how he reprimanded her. I don't believe in 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:42.360 shaming somebody slapping them, because slapping somebody is a really 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:46.040 weird way to you know, even slapping a kid. And 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.000 then it hit me, right, I start having all of 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:52.320 these crazy thoughts about marriage, right and right. No for real, right, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.959 no for real because a lot of the times the 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.360 way shit is set up, like when you look at marriage, 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.800 when they get you to the altar, they say do 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:06.760 you promise to honor and obey your husband? Like marriage? 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:08.480 The term marriage is set up. 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.800 It's a contry, but it's a contrary. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.560 Everybody knows leg minus the legal ramifications that you signed 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.400 when you go down to the courthouse, just when you 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.280 just when the motherfucking man that's bringing y'all union together. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:25.319 Whereas whether it's a licensed person or a pastor or preacher, whoever, 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:30.480 bringing your union together, right, they say these things to you, right, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.960 And so the first thing she did was not obey. 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.520 He told her shut her up, like I don't want 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.160 to hear her screaming. I'm trying to figure out all 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:39.720 this other shit. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.199 So you're saying she would obey that. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.240 One, then it would have never been a slap. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:52.960 No punishment. No, I definitely have to agree of no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.040 that's not man. Let's look at it this way. I 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.520 got a good example. That was his daughter, right now, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.240 What if it was her daughter and he wanted to 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.559 do what she was doing? Who you think what happened? 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:05.560 What would you think would happen? 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.280 I don't think she them, No, you don't think the. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.520 Man would have no say so whatsoever? Because the lady 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.560 said this is my daughter and it's not yours. He 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.120 had no say so, even with his own daughter, with 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.720 somebody who should have respected his wishes on his own daughter. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.959 Get no, you don't because you're okay with her saying no. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.400 No, I'm not okay with any of that. I just said. 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.160 All she said was I can't it hurts her? 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:29.800 Does she figured out that she got slapped. 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:31.920 No, then she got slapped after that, and then. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:32.600 She figured out. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.520 I mean yeah, because she got fucking slapped, she don't 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.520 want even slapped again. What are y'all talking about? 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.199 So that means she could have did it the first time. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.160 I got another question, do you have any Do you 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:45.479 got any dogs? Animals? 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.880 No? I do not. Okay, I'm not an animal. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.520 Okay, most people got little animals and stuff before they 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.040 train them. If they do something, they slap them and 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.040 they hit them in the buck. But then they leave 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:58.600 the whole wheel to them. So that's normal though, for punishment. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.520 But but I've been thinking about this as a lot right, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:07.160 Like if your woman won't obey you, if you're like 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.960 in a marriage, how can you truly protect and provide 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:10.280 for her? 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:11.240 Like? 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.480 How can you really measure that? Right? Like let's say, 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.800 you know what I mean, you tell your old lady like, 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:21.520 don't go to this party, and she go anyway, and 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.680 then something happened to her. How can you protect her? 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:25.439 And she should listen? 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.280 That's my point. So when I start reassessing the color 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:34.200 purple and looking at mister's character, I think mister's character 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:38.080 was really misunderstood. Like he never wanted Seeley in the 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:39.240 first fucking place. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.840 Yeah, but I think what made that whole situation even 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:47.120 worse was remember how he basically ran her down in 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.319 the fucking field and when she was on her way 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:50.880 to school and damn near trying to rape her. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.120 I think I believe. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.200 That's why a lot of people took it and was 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:56.400 like hell no, Like. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.280 I have a question, because it's funny that you say 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.240 that's a point. When you've seen this years ago, you 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.959 feel a certain way, right ya. I thought mister was like, okay, 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.600 but now you feel this way now. But just think 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.560 about the people that feel this way when they seem 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.680 mister in the very beginning. He wasn't a villain to 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.720 everybody in the beginning. So I don't think so because 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.400 you now got to this point and understood it, about 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.280 the people that was in that point, that was growing up. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.319 They probably understood what Mistres's position was. It's these new 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.880 people that's growing up that look at it differently. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.840 That's true. But I think also it's like because. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.440 I had no problem. I didn't even like color purple 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.520 because I thought it was bullshit from the start. 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.600 Why'd you think the color bourbons? 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.200 Yeah, because I thought they exaggerated on everything that was there. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.839 I thought they blew up everything that was there. Because 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.840 like I have a grandfather that was born in nineteen 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.040 oh five. Yeah, they came across it, but he had 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.480 came across the wagon train, you know, were born in 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.960 eighteen hundreds, you know what I'm saying. So looking at 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.440 a relationships, seeing my grandma and my dad, you know, 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.720 my grandfather and stuff, and them telling me the real 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.280 stories of growing up and the times and stuff. Then 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.040 I started looking at that and it was like, Okay, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:05.960 And like you said, they made mister be a villain. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.840 They wasn't really a villain. Like I said, he really 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:10.640 wasn't a villain. 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.400 But for the most part, they made men villains in 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:13.920 that film. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.440 Well, I think that was a byproduct of it. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.040 I remember another reason why he was a villain because 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.480 after she didn't want to sleep with him. Remember he 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:24.680 kicked her out the house. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.320 Why should he not kick her out those. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.160 Hold on, and then after that that's great, but then 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:33.080 he refused to let them be in contact. So he 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.920 he kept all the letters that her sister wrote to her. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:40.000 I think that was crappy, That was that was cruel. Yeah, 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:40.400 but I. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.080 Think that that was the only family member she had. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.720 But I know he was a new family member. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.040 Yeah, no, that's the only family member that loved her. Like, yeah, 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.640 she married him, like he said, he didn't want her, No. 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.400 No, no, no, he had a different type of love, a. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.520 Whole other woman under her, the same. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.800 Roof that don't matter for real, you could. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:14:59.480 Love all your wife. 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.720 Oh my god, here we go, Like I said. 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.040 That never said that? So then why can't? 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:07.160 So? 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.880 Why can't? Why couldn't he had developed the love for 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.240 Celi the way he loved her and then love the 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:12.880 way he loves Shop. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:14.880 I mean he could have, But all I'm saying is 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.920 he pretty much let her know like this is who 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.040 should have been my wife? 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.800 Hold On? Do we agree though that he didn't like 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.080 Seely for any like attractiveness. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.880 Or she was remember you say you ugly and so. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.840 She knew this. So he had found somebody he was 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.560 sexually attracted to that he been said, so like, I'm 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.600 like you, what's the problem. Ceely knew what was going on. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.240 Celi didn't have no problem with that. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.960 I'm saying Ceely was sold. Ceely was. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.280 That's but that's but that's really what marriage is. 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.360 To talk to the dad that's old her. Get that. 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.440 That's the step. You know, he was some ship and 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.840 he was a villain. He was the actual only. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.359 Villain because you know, you know today's. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.240 Know if he's actually a villain, they were buy you 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.360 in today's because he wasn't really her dad. 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.400 It was he was having sex with his step daughter 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:04.720 and had two babies with her. 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.520 You said, step daughter. See that's where you're going. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:06.640 Now. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.560 I see where you say. It's not her real dad's daughter. 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:09.360 Oh my god. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.400 But I disagree if you raised her, well, hold on, 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.760 I agree. If you raised her like a daughter, that's 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:18.960 not right. If you raised her like a daughter, I 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.000 don't agree with that. But if he just came into 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.360 the picture like a year or two, man, do your thing. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:29.400 They actually thought that was their father were. 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:35.680 In the house, the mother, the mother's doing the false bullets. Yeah, 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:37.720 blame the mother on that one. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.240 No, I do blame her because she chose that man. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:45.240 When she died, she died tripping, that's what they said. 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.320 Like he told her like, if you say something to 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:51.080 your mother, she gonna die. But no, I was thinking 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.480 about it, right, Okay, So even the thing, like even 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.480 with the thing with Neddie, right, he was because he 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.880 really was attracted to Neddie, like he really fucked with 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.760 That's who we wanted to get to be his wife, right, 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.760 He wanted Nettie and the step Pops was like, no, 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.239 this is my little thing, you know what I mean. 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.240 He trying to keep that thing to himself, which is crazy. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:13.720 He was trying to get that. 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:18.639 Right, So when when she came, she's living with them, 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.080 eating off of them, so he was he thought that 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.520 was his invice. So even when he started to press her. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.840 You know, at that back in the nineteen hundreds, men 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.840 were way more aggressive about like, you know, trying to 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.600 pursue a woman. Now, I do think it is a 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.840 weird line. At that time, that's super rapey. 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.200 Explain that line to me, well, it's. 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.680 Like because ray today is different than rape, and that's 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:51.400 so ray today is a woman not saying yes. Back 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.360 then it's a little different, like because today people think 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.199 a woman saying no it's rape. It's not. If a 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.360 woman doesn't say yes, it's rape. Agree with she don't 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.960 got to say no. Literally, they have used like a 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:07.199 real like real prosecution on people like yo, Like she 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.040 didn't say yes. She was in shocks, so she couldn't 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.760 say no, Yeah, this is a real thing. She's too 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.280 drunk or she's sure, like he's a real and you 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.600 can't really contest him because it's not as crazy as 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.240 it sounds. But back then men were super pursuing of women, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.800 like they'd be all on them, trying to get them. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.760 So I agree it did get a little raypie when 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.720 he was on her, But I think he could have 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.280 been a little confused about what was going on, Like 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:31.760 he knew she was saying no, but he thought he 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.040 had a chance. But listen, but listen, o hold no. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:35.159 No. 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.200 I got to defend him because when I was growing up, 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.520 there was a time period where women would say no 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.560 meaning yes. That's what we was taught growing up, and 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.560 women would do that I heard that there was a 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.240 time period where women would be saying no, but be 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.640 peeling off their clothes and shit and like no, we can't, but. 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:55.639 Oh you know what, So yeah, I don't want to 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.000 do this. You know when she was talking, you won't 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.959