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Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 2: We got lots, just say, we got lots to save?

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Speaker 3: What a backer here?

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Speaker 2: And we hope you say because we got lots, just say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got lots to say. Here's Bobby in that. Everybody

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Speaker 2: walk home. I went on a walk yesterday as my wife.

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Speaker 2: She's very pregnant, and so we're doing lots of walking.

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Speaker 2: And there is a football alse stadium. It's not so

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Speaker 2: much stadium, but it's a big football field with a

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Speaker 4: Hill school, yes, the middle school.

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Speaker 2: Why do they have such a big football stadium.

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Speaker 4: For six graders? I have no idea. It's unbelievable and

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Speaker 4: it only goes sixth grade. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: It's an awesome Yeah, everything about it is amazing. And

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Speaker 2: and I was just like appreciating how fresh it was.

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Speaker 2: I knew it was, how the lines are painted new.

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, that field looks so good. She goes,

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Speaker 2: that's only for up to sixth grade. Yeah, why do

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Speaker 2: they need a stadium that big.

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Speaker 4: I really don't know, because I was saying the same thing.

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Speaker 5: I was going, Okay, they've got this incredible stadium, but

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Speaker 5: you're talking about you. I guess they have a fifth

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Speaker 5: and sixth grade football team, But that's like the most

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Speaker 5: incredible facility for fifth and sixth graders that they're not

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Speaker 5: even going to move up and get to play on

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Speaker 5: it after sixth grade. They're actually transferring to another school

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Speaker 5: around here, paying more money to.

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Speaker 4: Go to just as nice facilities.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's playing football at Georgia and then

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Speaker 2: going to play for the Arizona Cardinals. You're like going down,

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Speaker 2: even though you're getting older and going up, you're going

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, these kids are It's crazy the amount of money,

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Speaker 5: particularly here in Nashville. When I first got here and

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Speaker 5: at all these schools and the facilities. I mean, growing

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Speaker 5: The weight room was terrible. You go to some of

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Speaker 5: these schools and I'm like these are ten times better

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Speaker 5: in college at USC. And then in some cases when

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Speaker 5: even when I got to the pros before they've redone

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Speaker 5: terms of weight room, locker room, they're better than that.

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Speaker 4: Like when you go to NBA over there and look

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's because the money in this town.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of artists in town, like massive country artists,

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Speaker 2: that's generally where it's from.

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Speaker 4: I think some of it's from that.

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Speaker 5: I think that it's also here in just Nashville itself

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Speaker 4: Like, there's a lot lot of money there. I don't

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Speaker 5: It's just I mean, it is a very affluent area,

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Speaker 4: I mean, check this out. I did hear that NBA

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Speaker 5: It's an all boys school in seventh grade, Montgomery Bell Academy.

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Speaker 2: Do they call it NBA though, as Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 5: And there was somebody that had passed away that went

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Speaker 5: and he donated that to the school in as will,

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Speaker 5: and I was like, Okay, that will help your endowment

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Speaker 2: That would be e leap for a major university to

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Speaker 2: Well, I saw that. Thatughts pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: I do have a lot of because now that we

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Speaker 2: It's all about little body parts on players. It's always

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Speaker 5: Yeah, short arms, short, the hands aren't big enough, they're

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Speaker 5: That's what they do. And that's why I always think

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Speaker 5: in a lot of these cases, you can help yourself

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Speaker 5: by the way you run, by the way you drump.

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Speaker 5: But they're also critiquing all the little details of trying

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Speaker 5: I'm like, this isn't even real football. These are guys

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Speaker 5: they've been training for. They're elite athletes, there's no doubt

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Speaker 5: about it. But turn on the football film and watch

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Speaker 5: we see at some of these combines.

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Speaker 2: I have three they're talking about this year, and then

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Speaker 4: It's just like two t rex is fighting it out.

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Speaker 5: Hey, now it's even. And he also ran on what, oh,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I was like a four to four, right,

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Speaker 5: How the edge from Texas A and M. He had

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Speaker 2: Another one is the tackle at Utah. I think you

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Speaker 2: say his name, Fano, Spencer Fano. He's thirty two and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh gosh, it's too bad. And you know what happens.

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Speaker 2: Whenever an offensive tackle has short arms, they go looks

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Speaker 4: I mean that's usually the hundred percent that is.

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Speaker 2: Fatten him up like it's a turkey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, come on, boy, I have your protein shakes.

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Speaker 2: Will Campbell last year his arms were thirty two and

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Speaker 4: I don't have that I didn't do.

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Speaker 5: I would love to see from you're talking about elite tackles,

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Speaker 5: that thirty three is seen as the kind of the cutoff.

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Speaker 5: But these guys or less than an inch from being at.

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Speaker 4: That's the longest arm ever.

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Speaker 5: And it's just one of them. The other one was

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Speaker 5: the inch doesn't matter. I do have small hands. Now

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Speaker 5: over the years, can you picket? From twenty twenty two?

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Speaker 5: I think that to me is the most notorious case

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Speaker 5: of small hands. He measured in at eight point five inches.

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Speaker 5: The threshold for quarterback hands is.

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Speaker 5: I thought you were going to nine. I was going

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Speaker 2: He was drafted at number twenty overall, which, by the way, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: would you look up Kawhi Leonards hands because I was

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Speaker 2: But Kawhi's hands made even the Lebron's hands look small.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to the Kawhi hans in a second.

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Speaker 2: But Jared Goff in twenty sixteen his was right at

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Speaker 5: You know what, there are these little things that can

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Speaker 5: helping facilitate and they are taking these these.

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Speaker 4: Measurements of your hands and this that and the other

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Speaker 4: and spread out. Yeah, you get a little extra.

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Speaker 5: I mean, diego Pavia, they said. And the thing was,

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Speaker 5: what's six foot in their program at Vandy? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: and then his measurable or his measurement.

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Speaker 4: Was five ten.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was. I think it was five

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Speaker 5: Really, I think so looking back like they're doing on

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Speaker 5: a solid undersaying yeah, we're gonna put you at six

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Speaker 2: Bud Joe Row's hand size. Now this is back in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty draft number one, regardless, but they said that

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Speaker 2: he had tiny hands. Patrick Mahomes he had nine in

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Speaker 2: a quarter. But the headlines were, well, Patrick Mahomes small hands.

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Speaker 2: Tank is NFL draft stock.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray not just hands but height.

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Speaker 4: Right, just overall stature.

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Speaker 2: And you talk about Kyler, I think they were exaggerating

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Speaker 2: his height a bit, especially at Oklahoma but he had

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Speaker 2: the smallest hands of any of the passers taken in

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Speaker 2: the first round that year, yet posted the lowest funnel

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Speaker 2: rate in highest QBR Avenue rookie that season. Drake May's hands,

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Speaker 2: as big as he is, were just nine in and

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Speaker 4: So can we just stop talking about hand size and

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Speaker 4: anything like that. It really doesn't matter. Jayla melrow eight

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Speaker 4: They're not that tall.

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Speaker 5: Fingers, big hands, big palms, Yeah, big palms, big thick, thick, ye.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got the biggest eleven and three quarter fingers.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go over to Jordan Palmer, renowned quarterback coach,

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Speaker 4: You know Jordan. I do know Jordan very well.

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Speaker 2: Palmer, who by the way, Jordan, Matt and I were

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Speaker 5: at their experience, have they played, have they been through adversity?

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Speaker 5: Because there's some guys like Ty Simpson that's just played

440
00:19:50,936 --> 00:19:53,696
Speaker 5: one year, right, and he doesn't have the same amount

441
00:19:53,776 --> 00:19:56,656
Speaker 5: of experience as like a Fermando Mendoza who's been through

442
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Speaker 5: a lot of ups and downs and all these different situations.

443
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Speaker 5: How do you go about dealing with those guys? And

444
00:20:02,056 --> 00:20:04,136
Speaker 5: do you think that's one of the valued traits that

445
00:20:04,256 --> 00:20:06,936
Speaker 5: NFL scouts look at, is the experience factor?

446
00:20:07,896 --> 00:20:08,096
Speaker 7: Yeah?

447
00:20:08,336 --> 00:20:09,096
Speaker 4: I think it is.

448
00:20:09,455 --> 00:20:12,815
Speaker 3: And uh, just the adversity How strong is you're handling

449
00:20:12,856 --> 00:20:16,056
Speaker 3: adversity muscle? It's just the hardest one to score some people.

450
00:20:16,056 --> 00:20:18,295
Speaker 3: It's really obvious, right you hear? I think back to

451
00:20:18,336 --> 00:20:20,696
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson. I did his draft brick and all that

452
00:20:21,136 --> 00:20:24,775
Speaker 3: his childhood was so difficult and so well documented. He

453
00:20:24,816 --> 00:20:27,336
Speaker 3: had talked about it so much that there was never

454
00:20:27,455 --> 00:20:29,215
Speaker 3: going to be a how's this guy going to handle

455
00:20:29,256 --> 00:20:33,336
Speaker 3: hard times question with him? But then there is guys

456
00:20:33,455 --> 00:20:37,256
Speaker 3: where maybe they just because somebody hasn't been through hard

457
00:20:37,296 --> 00:20:41,776
Speaker 3: times doesn't mean they can't. I mean, cass, I think

458
00:20:41,776 --> 00:20:43,616
Speaker 3: of my brother. If you think about like middle school,

459
00:20:43,656 --> 00:20:46,976
Speaker 3: high school, and college outside of like a broken collarbone

460
00:20:47,016 --> 00:20:50,896
Speaker 3: and girlfriend broke up, and like that wasn't like real,

461
00:20:51,136 --> 00:20:53,336
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it wasn't it was

462
00:20:53,936 --> 00:20:56,455
Speaker 3: you know, moderate amount of adversity compared to what a

463
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Speaker 3: lot of people go through. So that doesn't mean that

464
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Speaker 3: he's not going to be able to handle it. Well,

465
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Speaker 3: I just don't have any data or information in front

466
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Speaker 3: of me. So I think it's the hardest thing to

467
00:21:07,016 --> 00:21:09,616
Speaker 3: evaluate when you have a guy that doesn't have a

468
00:21:09,656 --> 00:21:12,455
Speaker 3: bunch of well documented adversity he's been through, whether it's

469
00:21:12,455 --> 00:21:14,735
Speaker 3: because they only played in one year or because life's

470
00:21:14,776 --> 00:21:17,455
Speaker 3: been pretty cushed so far. Then you got to get

471
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Speaker 3: into the psychological element of like, okay, but if we do,

472
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Speaker 3: if he does, when he inevitably does go through a diversity,

473
00:21:22,376 --> 00:21:25,856
Speaker 3: how how do we, you know, anticipate him handling it.

474
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Speaker 4: And I think.

475
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Speaker 3: That that right there, when teams have to guess or

476
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Speaker 3: make an educated guess on that, I think there's the

477
00:21:33,495 --> 00:21:35,696
Speaker 3: one of the lines between the bus and the guys

478
00:21:35,696 --> 00:21:37,896
Speaker 3: that made it is they were whiffed on that one.

479
00:21:38,576 --> 00:21:40,296
Speaker 3: These guys can figure out if somebody can't throw it,

480
00:21:40,376 --> 00:21:41,776
Speaker 3: or if they're too dumb to do it, or if

481
00:21:41,776 --> 00:21:43,336
Speaker 3: the bright the lights are too bright for him. You

482
00:21:43,336 --> 00:21:46,336
Speaker 3: can typically figure that out in this process. But the

483
00:21:46,376 --> 00:21:49,535
Speaker 3: inevitability of adversity and success, because I know guys who

484
00:21:49,576 --> 00:21:52,215
Speaker 3: have a success problem. They're great when they're backs against

485
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Speaker 3: the wall. It's just when everything starts going while they

486
00:21:53,936 --> 00:21:56,656
Speaker 3: screw it up. I've seen that too. So it's essentially

487
00:21:56,735 --> 00:21:59,096
Speaker 3: the inevitability of how well you handle those two things.

488
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Speaker 3: And I spent a lot of time talking about the

489
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Speaker 3: best the inevitability of success and adversity, how well you

490
00:22:03,576 --> 00:22:05,576
Speaker 3: handle those two things is actually how good you are.

491
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Speaker 2: You mentioned there's therapists that you work with and that

492
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Speaker 2: work with your guys. I think of a guy like

493
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Speaker 2: Kay Klublick, who I know from Austin because he played

494
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Speaker 2: the high school ball there and I spent a lot

495
00:22:29,816 --> 00:22:32,255
Speaker 2: of time there. And you went to Clemson and was

496
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Speaker 2: the dude and probably if you asked him, isn't where

497
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Speaker 2: he wants to be As far as whenever the mock

498
00:22:38,576 --> 00:22:39,775
Speaker 2: drafts come out, you know they don't have him the

499
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Speaker 2: first round. He probably was that two years ago. Like,

500
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Speaker 2: is that something that you talk to a therapist about,

501
00:22:44,416 --> 00:22:45,176
Speaker 2: Like how do you get through that?

502
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

503
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Speaker 3: So one of the things my guy used to do,

504
00:22:48,376 --> 00:22:50,736
Speaker 3: right now is they work with a guy named Tom Rodriguez.

505
00:22:51,455 --> 00:22:54,696
Speaker 3: He's a therapist, he's a manager in family counseling, Bible based, secular,

506
00:22:54,735 --> 00:22:57,096
Speaker 3: all of it. But what we do is my guys

507
00:22:57,136 --> 00:22:59,856
Speaker 3: meet with him ten times so for an hour so

508
00:23:00,096 --> 00:23:03,616
Speaker 3: ten weeks individual and he's created a curriculum on helping

509
00:23:03,616 --> 00:23:04,936
Speaker 3: them truly identify their.

510
00:23:04,776 --> 00:23:05,656
Speaker 4: Purpose in life.

511
00:23:06,616 --> 00:23:09,416
Speaker 3: Last night we all had dinner and everyone shared their

512
00:23:09,416 --> 00:23:11,775
Speaker 3: purpose statements and it was emotional and awesome, and it

513
00:23:11,816 --> 00:23:14,616
Speaker 3: was the conclusion of the straft prep pace. Many of

514
00:23:14,616 --> 00:23:16,416
Speaker 3: them going to the NFL continue to work with Tom

515
00:23:17,016 --> 00:23:21,136
Speaker 3: and in the process of identifying your purpose in life

516
00:23:21,136 --> 00:23:23,336
Speaker 3: and bringing clarity like if you can't say in twenty

517
00:23:23,376 --> 00:23:25,736
Speaker 3: five words or less, it ain't clear to you. Then

518
00:23:25,896 --> 00:23:27,696
Speaker 3: we go through things like your five quar treus, what

519
00:23:27,696 --> 00:23:30,576
Speaker 3: are things that are undeniably true about you? And when

520
00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:32,975
Speaker 3: you start to unpack and take inventory, these guys are

521
00:23:33,056 --> 00:23:35,176
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty or another or not these guys are twenty one,

522
00:23:35,256 --> 00:23:37,616
Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty three, twenty four. When you start to

523
00:23:37,656 --> 00:23:41,616
Speaker 3: unpack those things and essentially take inventory of what you

524
00:23:41,616 --> 00:23:44,656
Speaker 3: actually think about things, most of these guys have never

525
00:23:44,776 --> 00:23:47,416
Speaker 3: answered the question honestly of why do you love football

526
00:23:47,455 --> 00:23:48,856
Speaker 3: so much? Why do you care so much? Why do

527
00:23:48,936 --> 00:23:51,176
Speaker 3: you try so hard at it? It's just like we

528
00:23:51,696 --> 00:23:53,416
Speaker 3: just got stuff tomorrow. We just keep going, you know

529
00:23:53,455 --> 00:23:54,856
Speaker 3: what I mean. I got next I got next week,

530
00:23:54,896 --> 00:23:57,495
Speaker 3: next month. And so this is a great time to

531
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Speaker 3: really take inventory of those things. And at the end

532
00:24:00,136 --> 00:24:01,975
Speaker 3: of the day, we end up spend a lot of

533
00:24:02,056 --> 00:24:04,656
Speaker 3: time talking about something I call FOPO, which is feared

534
00:24:04,656 --> 00:24:07,696
Speaker 3: of other people's pay. Essentially what the outside world the

535
00:24:07,735 --> 00:24:09,656
Speaker 3: influence that it has over you. And so what we

536
00:24:09,735 --> 00:24:12,975
Speaker 3: try and do is give guys tools to be able

537
00:24:13,136 --> 00:24:15,856
Speaker 3: to stay true to who they are. At the end

538
00:24:15,856 --> 00:24:18,936
Speaker 3: of the day, I love themselves, right, We're all broken,

539
00:24:18,975 --> 00:24:21,015
Speaker 3: and we all are sinners, and we all need to improve.

540
00:24:21,016 --> 00:24:22,295
Speaker 3: But like at the end of the day, like you

541
00:24:22,376 --> 00:24:25,296
Speaker 3: love these things that you know God helped you become,

542
00:24:25,336 --> 00:24:27,575
Speaker 3: and these gifts that you've been given, And so we

543
00:24:27,616 --> 00:24:29,535
Speaker 3: really kind of unpack those things and trying to make

544
00:24:29,576 --> 00:24:32,336
Speaker 3: everything grounded in truth instead of trying to address a

545
00:24:32,376 --> 00:24:35,896
Speaker 3: situation like your draft stock slips or the fan base

546
00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:39,616
Speaker 3: things you're a bum, or they traded for this guy.

547
00:24:38,856 --> 00:24:42,015
Speaker 3: They clearly don't. They like somebody else better than you.

548
00:24:42,256 --> 00:24:44,096
Speaker 3: These things that this end up coming up if you

549
00:24:44,096 --> 00:24:48,416
Speaker 3: play the game long enough, but not worrying about blocking

550
00:24:48,495 --> 00:24:52,096
Speaker 3: things out and more about getting grounded in who you are.

551
00:24:52,136 --> 00:24:54,455
Speaker 3: But you've got to spend some time for these guys

552
00:24:54,455 --> 00:24:57,096
Speaker 3: to really unpack and build a relationship, get honest with

553
00:24:57,176 --> 00:24:59,295
Speaker 3: you know who they really are. And this has served

554
00:24:59,296 --> 00:25:02,216
Speaker 3: some of my guys really really well through the hard times.

555
00:25:02,056 --> 00:25:04,856
Speaker 5: When you're going through this process, Right, you've got the combine,

556
00:25:05,056 --> 00:25:08,176
Speaker 5: then you going into your pro days? Which one would

557
00:25:08,215 --> 00:25:10,616
Speaker 5: you say holds more weight because once you say, Pro

558
00:25:10,735 --> 00:25:14,456
Speaker 5: day is more of the tangibles, right, your speed, your size,

559
00:25:15,176 --> 00:25:18,216
Speaker 5: how high you can jump, and showing off your physical ability,

560
00:25:18,256 --> 00:25:21,856
Speaker 5: but the Pro day is more relatable to actual football

561
00:25:22,215 --> 00:25:24,416
Speaker 5: and getting ready to go and how they evaluate you,

562
00:25:24,536 --> 00:25:25,936
Speaker 5: particularly at the quarterback position.

563
00:25:26,936 --> 00:25:29,856
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think at the combine you can help

564
00:25:29,896 --> 00:25:33,816
Speaker 3: yourself a ton. I also don't think you can hurt

565
00:25:33,856 --> 00:25:37,336
Speaker 3: yourself a ton. Okay, so it's I think it's less relevant.

566
00:25:37,896 --> 00:25:40,416
Speaker 3: I don't think you can help yourself a ton on

567
00:25:40,455 --> 00:25:42,816
Speaker 3: the Pro day. I do think you can hurt yourself

568
00:25:43,336 --> 00:25:46,416
Speaker 3: at the Pro Day if you just have the worst

569
00:25:46,416 --> 00:25:48,616
Speaker 3: thrown duty of your life. In Indy, I watched justin

570
00:25:48,656 --> 00:25:52,096
Speaker 3: Herbert not throw well in Andy? Why does that not matter?

571
00:25:54,176 --> 00:25:56,095
Speaker 3: One of the purest spinners of the football is at

572
00:25:56,096 --> 00:25:59,215
Speaker 3: all time great, right, But somebody lays an egg on

573
00:25:59,256 --> 00:26:03,575
Speaker 3: their pro day, on a curated, scripted rehearsed typically in

574
00:26:03,576 --> 00:26:07,295
Speaker 3: an indoor facility. And so for my guys that are

575
00:26:07,376 --> 00:26:08,976
Speaker 3: high picks, I've had a lot of first rounders come

576
00:26:08,975 --> 00:26:12,056
Speaker 3: through here. You know, if they throw at the common,

577
00:26:12,096 --> 00:26:14,136
Speaker 3: they throw out the combine. I always tell these guys cattle.

578
00:26:14,215 --> 00:26:15,816
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, by the way, this is not a

579
00:26:15,856 --> 00:26:17,176
Speaker 3: big deal. If this is hard for you, trust me.

580
00:26:17,215 --> 00:26:19,336
Speaker 3: The NFL is way harder than this. You know, like,

581
00:26:19,376 --> 00:26:21,136
Speaker 3: if this is hard for you, like we got you

582
00:26:21,176 --> 00:26:25,136
Speaker 3: got big your problems. But on the pro day, we're

583
00:26:25,176 --> 00:26:28,215
Speaker 3: there to confirm what what these teams believe. When you

584
00:26:28,215 --> 00:26:29,735
Speaker 3: get a first rounder and you got GMS there and

585
00:26:29,735 --> 00:26:34,255
Speaker 3: head coaches and ownership there, this is about confirming. And

586
00:26:34,416 --> 00:26:37,255
Speaker 3: I think about Sam Donald. Sam Donald pro Day. It

587
00:26:37,336 --> 00:26:38,856
Speaker 3: was in sunny La.

588
00:26:39,616 --> 00:26:40,136
Speaker 4: No, it was.

589
00:26:40,256 --> 00:26:45,016
Speaker 3: Sideways rain, it was windy, and you had Cleveland n one,

590
00:26:45,296 --> 00:26:50,336
Speaker 3: the Giants at two, the Jets it three indies and indoor,

591
00:26:50,416 --> 00:26:52,616
Speaker 3: but they were at six. The Bills that seven. You know,

592
00:26:52,656 --> 00:26:54,856
Speaker 3: what I mean. It was like, oh no, no, we're

593
00:26:54,856 --> 00:26:57,536
Speaker 3: not changing the date. No, we're throwing in the rain.

594
00:26:58,336 --> 00:27:00,456
Speaker 3: And so that was a great one because he threw

595
00:27:00,536 --> 00:27:04,176
Speaker 3: like it wasn't raining, and it was like it was great.

596
00:27:04,215 --> 00:27:05,975
Speaker 4: I'm glad I would have ordered rings.

597
00:27:06,416 --> 00:27:09,336
Speaker 3: You know, the pro days more relevant, I think, because

598
00:27:09,376 --> 00:27:10,376
Speaker 3: there's there's more mistake.

599
00:27:10,656 --> 00:27:13,136
Speaker 2: You were talking earlier about the situation of players in

600
00:27:13,176 --> 00:27:16,176
Speaker 2: and where they are, and if my memory serves you

601
00:27:16,256 --> 00:27:18,776
Speaker 2: did or you still work with Trevor Lawrence and he

602
00:27:18,856 --> 00:27:21,456
Speaker 2: hasn't changed, but there's been so much change around him

603
00:27:21,455 --> 00:27:23,896
Speaker 2: in the exact same spot. Has that led, what you

604
00:27:23,936 --> 00:27:25,096
Speaker 2: think to his success?

605
00:27:25,336 --> 00:27:27,775
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's resilience. You know, he's a perfect

606
00:27:27,816 --> 00:27:30,576
Speaker 3: example of when he played in middle school, he was

607
00:27:30,616 --> 00:27:32,495
Speaker 3: the best middle schooler. When he played in high school,

608
00:27:32,495 --> 00:27:34,416
Speaker 3: he was the number one recruit. When he went to college,

609
00:27:34,495 --> 00:27:37,696
Speaker 3: he won a national championship as a true freshman. You know,

610
00:27:38,536 --> 00:27:41,136
Speaker 3: his down year, I think they lost twice that year.

611
00:27:41,376 --> 00:27:43,376
Speaker 3: He hadn't been through anything. And then kind of like

612
00:27:43,735 --> 00:27:46,656
Speaker 3: historically had kind of like the worst rookie year ever

613
00:27:46,856 --> 00:27:49,736
Speaker 3: for a high pick, you know, the Urban Meyer thing.

614
00:27:49,735 --> 00:27:53,056
Speaker 3: Halfway through this but like it was a dumpster fire

615
00:27:53,215 --> 00:27:55,816
Speaker 3: and he was playing poor Ley right and there was nobody.

616
00:27:55,816 --> 00:28:00,616
Speaker 3: It was like a triple whammy. But the amount of internal,

617
00:28:01,536 --> 00:28:04,176
Speaker 3: you know, self generated confidence that the that guy has,

618
00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:06,936
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised that at some point at all clicked.

619
00:28:07,536 --> 00:28:10,215
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised that they continue to hire different coaches

620
00:28:10,215 --> 00:28:13,176
Speaker 3: and bring different people around the are, but it was

621
00:28:13,256 --> 00:28:15,255
Speaker 3: kind of an epp. I was not surprised when Bryce

622
00:28:15,296 --> 00:28:17,776
Speaker 3: Young got benched came back in and played well. These

623
00:28:17,776 --> 00:28:20,535
Speaker 3: guys that have that unwavering self generated confidence, it's a

624
00:28:20,576 --> 00:28:22,696
Speaker 3: matter of a time or another way to say that

625
00:28:22,776 --> 00:28:24,296
Speaker 3: is there will be a time and a place where

626
00:28:24,296 --> 00:28:25,535
Speaker 3: all they have to do is play the best of

627
00:28:25,536 --> 00:28:26,975
Speaker 3: their ability and they'll be in every game with a

628
00:28:27,056 --> 00:28:27,856
Speaker 3: chance to make a run.

629
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Speaker 7: At the end.

630
00:28:29,056 --> 00:28:30,975
Speaker 5: What do you think about this draft class coming up?

631
00:28:31,016 --> 00:28:33,615
Speaker 5: Guys like Garrett and as Meyer, Carson Beck, I mean,

632
00:28:33,696 --> 00:28:36,255
Speaker 5: Drew Aller coming off an injury late in the season,

633
00:28:36,616 --> 00:28:40,536
Speaker 5: all those guys that have potential in early on in

634
00:28:40,536 --> 00:28:43,576
Speaker 5: the season, you're talking about first round potential, but now

635
00:28:43,736 --> 00:28:46,016
Speaker 5: there's kind of like this bridge area that you don't

636
00:28:46,016 --> 00:28:48,056
Speaker 5: really know where they might go. But they are also

637
00:28:48,096 --> 00:28:49,456
Speaker 5: guys that have proven that they can.

638
00:28:49,376 --> 00:28:50,216
Speaker 4: Play at a high level.

639
00:28:51,176 --> 00:28:53,056
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, like our first thing we were talking

640
00:28:53,096 --> 00:28:56,496
Speaker 3: about how you went seventh round and played forever. I

641
00:28:57,256 --> 00:28:59,216
Speaker 3: don't like to look at the internet here. You know,

642
00:28:59,296 --> 00:29:01,976
Speaker 3: I just been doing this forever. So I know the

643
00:29:02,016 --> 00:29:03,456
Speaker 3: people that are writing all this stuff, I know they

644
00:29:03,496 --> 00:29:05,216
Speaker 3: don't know what they're talking about. So I don't know what.

645
00:29:05,216 --> 00:29:06,456
Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen.

646
00:29:06,536 --> 00:29:08,816
Speaker 4: So so I don't.

647
00:29:08,616 --> 00:29:11,176
Speaker 3: Really even know what the rankings are right now.

648
00:29:11,176 --> 00:29:13,256
Speaker 4: And I get hired by teams. I just met my reports.

649
00:29:14,136 --> 00:29:17,416
Speaker 3: But uh, I don't look at it like this is

650
00:29:17,456 --> 00:29:19,815
Speaker 3: a good draft class. There's four first round picks. This

651
00:29:19,896 --> 00:29:21,696
Speaker 3: is a bad draft class. There's only for one and

652
00:29:21,736 --> 00:29:25,815
Speaker 3: first rounder because between club Nick Jalen Daniels is a

653
00:29:25,816 --> 00:29:29,496
Speaker 3: guy that's probably gonna go later and play for a

654
00:29:29,576 --> 00:29:35,856
Speaker 3: long time, and Carson Beck is first, second, third, most

655
00:29:35,936 --> 00:29:38,496
Speaker 3: ready to play in the NFL right now. In my opinion,

656
00:29:39,616 --> 00:29:43,296
Speaker 3: I think nus nus Myer. You know, he had an

657
00:29:43,456 --> 00:29:45,776
Speaker 3: he had an injury his senior year. They've talked about

658
00:29:45,816 --> 00:29:47,096
Speaker 3: it. It was an oblique and it was this No, it

659
00:29:47,096 --> 00:29:47,616
Speaker 3: was a mistake.

660
00:29:47,656 --> 00:29:47,736
Speaker 5: No.

661
00:29:47,776 --> 00:29:50,095
Speaker 3: So if you watch his junior tape, it answers all

662
00:29:50,096 --> 00:29:51,816
Speaker 3: the questions that you didn't see a senior year in

663
00:29:51,896 --> 00:29:53,736
Speaker 3: terms of velocity and all that stuff. So when you're

664
00:29:53,736 --> 00:29:56,815
Speaker 3: talking about like your left oblique is bugging you on

665
00:29:56,856 --> 00:30:00,136
Speaker 3: every throw, it's like, well, cool, good luck with that, right,

666
00:30:00,536 --> 00:30:02,296
Speaker 3: and he got through it. And so there's just guys that,

667
00:30:02,456 --> 00:30:07,536
Speaker 3: like situationally, would have been higher picks if X, Y

668
00:30:07,616 --> 00:30:10,776
Speaker 3: and Z happened. Okay, that's their draft drinking. I'm looking

669
00:30:10,816 --> 00:30:12,616
Speaker 3: at it like, can this guy play? And then in

670
00:30:12,656 --> 00:30:14,736
Speaker 3: two years can this guy start contributing? And then in

671
00:30:14,776 --> 00:30:16,696
Speaker 3: four years does this guy like act like a vet

672
00:30:16,696 --> 00:30:19,576
Speaker 3: and actually start helping the room. Because in my draft

673
00:30:19,616 --> 00:30:21,936
Speaker 3: class oh seven, in which there's an argument to be made,

674
00:30:22,056 --> 00:30:25,056
Speaker 3: is the worst in the NFL history. The guy that

675
00:30:25,096 --> 00:30:27,336
Speaker 3: outplayed all of us, the guy that played the most

676
00:30:27,456 --> 00:30:33,616
Speaker 3: years was undrafted quarterback Matt Moore, not JaMarcus Russell, not me,

677
00:30:33,976 --> 00:30:37,296
Speaker 3: not the Heisman winner, Troy Smith, not Brady Quinn. It

678
00:30:37,336 --> 00:30:40,616
Speaker 3: was Matt Moore's the guy that got sixteen in or whatever. Right,

679
00:30:41,056 --> 00:30:43,056
Speaker 3: So I look at this class and I go, there's

680
00:30:43,056 --> 00:30:46,416
Speaker 3: a bunch of vets in this class, and maybe one

681
00:30:46,456 --> 00:30:48,336
Speaker 3: or two of them ends up being a really good starter.

682
00:30:49,976 --> 00:30:52,216
Speaker 2: When working with a guy and their tools. Does someone

683
00:30:52,256 --> 00:30:56,096
Speaker 2: ever commence with something that is so fundamentally not right

684
00:30:56,456 --> 00:30:58,056
Speaker 2: but it's right for them?

685
00:30:59,816 --> 00:31:02,816
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my mind goes to Philip Rivers immediately.

686
00:31:03,696 --> 00:31:07,456
Speaker 3: I can't break down on what he does. I don't

687
00:31:07,536 --> 00:31:11,815
Speaker 3: know where throwing motion. I don't know how to I

688
00:31:11,816 --> 00:31:16,575
Speaker 3: don't know how to like simulate it. Definitely see that

689
00:31:17,416 --> 00:31:20,216
Speaker 3: I've got one college guy right now that everyone would

690
00:31:20,416 --> 00:31:24,056
Speaker 3: want to change and I but I understand the sequencing

691
00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:27,296
Speaker 3: element of it and what and then with his body,

692
00:31:27,016 --> 00:31:30,256
Speaker 3: why he's able to really kind of protect some of

693
00:31:30,296 --> 00:31:33,216
Speaker 3: these joints and and still create the velocity he has.

694
00:31:33,256 --> 00:31:36,136
Speaker 3: And so it's more injury prevention instead of tweaking the

695
00:31:36,136 --> 00:31:37,056
Speaker 3: throwing mechanics.

696
00:31:37,096 --> 00:31:40,056
Speaker 4: But we spent a lot of time talking about the movement.

697
00:31:40,096 --> 00:31:42,536
Speaker 3: I believe that the majority of mechanical issues quarterbacks have

698
00:31:42,576 --> 00:31:44,816
Speaker 3: stem from a movement that precedes the throw. I think

699
00:31:44,856 --> 00:31:47,016
Speaker 3: this game is all about movement. Cast My whole philosophy

700
00:31:47,016 --> 00:31:48,656
Speaker 3: has changed over the last eight years. Don't believe anything

701
00:31:48,696 --> 00:31:51,416
Speaker 3: I used to believe. I just spent years studying the

702
00:31:51,416 --> 00:31:53,456
Speaker 3: body and how it works. And I don't have a

703
00:31:53,496 --> 00:31:56,296
Speaker 3: subjective opinion about anything. Everything is based off how the

704
00:31:56,296 --> 00:31:59,376
Speaker 3: body works and how movement is created, which is why

705
00:31:59,696 --> 00:32:01,616
Speaker 3: all of my clients are inbound right now. I don't

706
00:32:01,616 --> 00:32:05,736
Speaker 3: have a pitch deck and so we spend an amount

707
00:32:05,776 --> 00:32:07,856
Speaker 3: of time talking about movement, and so that's where the

708
00:32:07,856 --> 00:32:10,416
Speaker 3: biggest changes are made. I don't believe these guys are

709
00:32:10,456 --> 00:32:13,256
Speaker 3: broken and need to be fixed. But at the same time,

710
00:32:13,336 --> 00:32:14,776
Speaker 3: you don't have to be sick to get better.

711
00:32:30,736 --> 00:32:34,056
Speaker 5: Yeah, talk about that evolution of the biomechanics right from

712
00:32:34,056 --> 00:32:36,656
Speaker 5: the ground up, the hips, all that stuff, And you

713
00:32:36,776 --> 00:32:40,016
Speaker 5: talked about a lot from the technology standpoint, being able

714
00:32:40,016 --> 00:32:42,456
Speaker 5: to put somebody up on a board, film that and

715
00:32:42,576 --> 00:32:45,816
Speaker 5: see how their body functions. And see you talk about

716
00:32:45,856 --> 00:32:49,296
Speaker 5: sequencing and how important that is. Where it starts with

717
00:32:49,336 --> 00:32:52,855
Speaker 5: the lower half hips generating that power. But everything's on

718
00:32:52,896 --> 00:32:57,616
Speaker 5: that platform. But just the advancement in that area from

719
00:32:57,656 --> 00:32:59,656
Speaker 5: when we grew up to what it is today and

720
00:32:59,696 --> 00:33:03,096
Speaker 5: what you guys are doing, it's crazy, man.

721
00:33:03,296 --> 00:33:05,376
Speaker 3: Quarterback development, I'm just going to say at the NFL level,

722
00:33:05,696 --> 00:33:09,896
Speaker 3: so for sure, college and high school quarterback development is

723
00:33:09,976 --> 00:33:15,536
Speaker 3: about ten years behind baseball and fifteen behind golf. I'm

724
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:18,296
Speaker 3: doing some things right now with clients and when I

725
00:33:18,496 --> 00:33:22,376
Speaker 3: talk to the staff or the GDM or the whatever

726
00:33:22,576 --> 00:33:25,736
Speaker 3: or the agent. They say, I've heard that what I'm

727
00:33:25,776 --> 00:33:28,936
Speaker 3: doing is brilliant. I've heard the word genius. I've heard

728
00:33:28,936 --> 00:33:32,136
Speaker 3: cutting edge, I've heard outside the box, and I'm quick

729
00:33:32,136 --> 00:33:35,016
Speaker 3: to cut them off and go, uhh, this is exactly

730
00:33:35,176 --> 00:33:37,896
Speaker 3: what they do in baseball, which is way behind it.

731
00:33:38,296 --> 00:33:41,856
Speaker 3: This is exactly what they do in golf. These are

732
00:33:41,856 --> 00:33:45,216
Speaker 3: not original thoughts, right, but what happened in the quarterback

733
00:33:45,216 --> 00:33:47,456
Speaker 3: world is everything's based off of subjectivity.

734
00:33:47,456 --> 00:33:47,936
Speaker 4: Again, I'm just.

735
00:33:47,896 --> 00:33:50,336
Speaker 3: Saying an NFL up, so for sure on now, okay,

736
00:33:50,896 --> 00:33:54,496
Speaker 3: it's based off of subjectivity. So Cassi and I out

737
00:33:54,496 --> 00:33:57,336
Speaker 3: grew up hearing things like have a good base, don't

738
00:33:57,336 --> 00:33:59,736
Speaker 3: get too wide, get your hips into it, gets your

739
00:33:59,736 --> 00:34:00,616
Speaker 3: tow your target.

740
00:34:01,016 --> 00:34:02,136
Speaker 4: Okay, pull that front.

741
00:34:02,016 --> 00:34:04,136
Speaker 3: Arm down whatever that was a Bob Johnson to tell me,

742
00:34:04,176 --> 00:34:06,536
Speaker 3: keep your el boat up, that front shoulder blocked off.

743
00:34:06,616 --> 00:34:10,375
Speaker 3: None of those things mean anything, like those aren't those

744
00:34:10,376 --> 00:34:12,776
Speaker 3: aren't like your doctor wouldn't use those terms. Just you know,

745
00:34:12,856 --> 00:34:15,176
Speaker 3: like be pretty good and like get a little bit

746
00:34:15,176 --> 00:34:18,016
Speaker 3: of exercise like that's not that's not a directed and

747
00:34:18,096 --> 00:34:21,616
Speaker 3: so we we we've kind of removed subjectivity from this.

748
00:34:21,736 --> 00:34:23,536
Speaker 3: You either did it or you didn't do it. And

749
00:34:23,576 --> 00:34:25,776
Speaker 3: so the first phase of working with us is really education,

750
00:34:25,856 --> 00:34:28,736
Speaker 3: explaining like you go all the way through catch you

751
00:34:28,856 --> 00:34:30,936
Speaker 3: to USC and played on multiple NFL teams to an

752
00:34:30,936 --> 00:34:34,176
Speaker 3: incredible career and may still not actually understand the body

753
00:34:34,176 --> 00:34:36,416
Speaker 3: as well as my high school guys do. Understand what

754
00:34:36,456 --> 00:34:39,456
Speaker 3: the obliques do where they attach, what they're responsible for

755
00:34:40,056 --> 00:34:41,736
Speaker 3: right where they attached to the Latin.

756
00:34:41,776 --> 00:34:43,576
Speaker 4: Then now what that happens. So we go through the

757
00:34:43,576 --> 00:34:44,096
Speaker 4: whole process.

758
00:34:44,136 --> 00:34:46,856
Speaker 3: We don't even learn that, and it's kind of like

759
00:34:46,896 --> 00:34:48,896
Speaker 3: you go to college and be an economics major and

760
00:34:48,936 --> 00:34:51,896
Speaker 3: not know how to make money. That's on your four

761
00:34:51,936 --> 00:34:54,136
Speaker 3: point no, you have no idea how to make money, right,

762
00:34:54,696 --> 00:34:59,736
Speaker 3: And so the advancement, I don't know that it's an advancement.

763
00:35:00,096 --> 00:35:00,376
Speaker 4: It is.

764
00:35:00,456 --> 00:35:02,376
Speaker 3: It is a huge advancement. It's totally different than what

765
00:35:02,416 --> 00:35:03,696
Speaker 3: I did. I used to be told to keep my

766
00:35:03,696 --> 00:35:07,416
Speaker 3: elbow up and fall through. But it's not an advancement,

767
00:35:07,456 --> 00:35:09,776
Speaker 3: it's this was like what they've been doing. And so

768
00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:11,416
Speaker 3: when I say, like all my clients are on retainer

769
00:35:11,416 --> 00:35:14,536
Speaker 3: for the year. For example, an NBA superstar James Harden,

770
00:35:15,336 --> 00:35:17,416
Speaker 3: when he has two or three bad night shooting he's not.

771
00:35:17,696 --> 00:35:19,456
Speaker 3: He's not going to stick around after practice and get

772
00:35:19,496 --> 00:35:21,896
Speaker 3: some shots up with the coach. He's shooting. Coach is

773
00:35:21,936 --> 00:35:24,656
Speaker 3: flying in tonight and they're gonna address this right now,

774
00:35:25,416 --> 00:35:27,136
Speaker 3: right And if he rolls his ankle, the trainer on

775
00:35:27,176 --> 00:35:29,656
Speaker 3: the team is going to icen stem. His trainer's flying

776
00:35:29,696 --> 00:35:31,416
Speaker 3: in to address this. You play with Grady, You get

777
00:35:31,456 --> 00:35:33,576
Speaker 3: where I'm going with this. So it's like, why don't quarter?

778
00:35:33,656 --> 00:35:35,216
Speaker 3: Why is Tom Brady the only guy that does that?

779
00:35:36,096 --> 00:35:38,616
Speaker 3: And so that's what we do for a lot of guys,

780
00:35:38,736 --> 00:35:41,016
Speaker 3: is we build that system. And so it is an

781
00:35:41,056 --> 00:35:44,816
Speaker 3: advancement based off but it's an advancement by default. Right,

782
00:35:44,976 --> 00:35:47,696
Speaker 3: But other sports were what I'm doing still behind.

783
00:35:48,576 --> 00:35:50,936
Speaker 2: We got two final questions. Let's say a really rich

784
00:35:51,016 --> 00:35:52,936
Speaker 2: mom has a kid who's pretty good in high school?

785
00:35:53,016 --> 00:35:53,976
Speaker 2: Can they just hire you?

786
00:35:54,976 --> 00:35:57,136
Speaker 3: They can hire Jared on my team. He runs Summit

787
00:35:57,176 --> 00:35:59,736
Speaker 3: Youth Division. He's amazing. He's actually I played at Tennessee

788
00:35:59,776 --> 00:36:04,616
Speaker 3: for four years. No really rich people that take their

789
00:36:04,656 --> 00:36:08,136
Speaker 3: planes out here, Yeah.

790
00:36:06,856 --> 00:36:10,056
Speaker 4: You'll take them then? It really really really rich.

791
00:36:11,056 --> 00:36:13,656
Speaker 3: The kid does doesn't have a liquor and look at

792
00:36:13,816 --> 00:36:15,936
Speaker 3: absolutely rip it from water.

793
00:36:19,016 --> 00:36:21,656
Speaker 5: You think if I would have had this type of coaching,

794
00:36:21,696 --> 00:36:24,216
Speaker 5: I might have been drafted higher than you back in

795
00:36:24,256 --> 00:36:24,576
Speaker 5: the day.

796
00:36:25,816 --> 00:36:28,816
Speaker 3: I think if you would have started three, if you

797
00:36:28,856 --> 00:36:33,576
Speaker 3: would have been drafted higher than me, I don't know you.

798
00:36:33,536 --> 00:36:34,736
Speaker 4: Would have had it, but I we would.

799
00:36:34,776 --> 00:36:36,096
Speaker 3: I would have had you over here with Mike though,

800
00:36:36,096 --> 00:36:37,736
Speaker 3: and get that baseball out of your throat on motion,

801
00:36:37,816 --> 00:36:41,176
Speaker 3: that's for sure, that right now, a little over and

802
00:36:41,256 --> 00:36:42,416
Speaker 3: let you had a lot of lateral.

803
00:36:42,176 --> 00:36:44,096
Speaker 4: Trunk flections, so you got to overshow. That's what I

804
00:36:44,096 --> 00:36:45,456
Speaker 4: was going to say, lateral.

805
00:36:45,136 --> 00:36:48,776
Speaker 3: Trunk flection, which leans the oblique and so that right

806
00:36:48,856 --> 00:36:49,936
Speaker 3: leg kicks up in the air.

807
00:36:50,296 --> 00:36:50,896
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does.

808
00:36:50,976 --> 00:36:53,815
Speaker 8: He says that every show was exactly what he talked

809
00:36:53,816 --> 00:36:55,776
Speaker 8: about and knew that oblique was going to get me

810
00:36:55,816 --> 00:36:58,776
Speaker 8: at some point. Hey, you remember, I remember at Minnesota

811
00:36:59,336 --> 00:37:01,016
Speaker 8: you just ripping a dig. I think it was the

812
00:37:01,016 --> 00:37:01,776
Speaker 8: house call too.

813
00:37:02,416 --> 00:37:02,616
Speaker 7: Yeah.

814
00:37:02,736 --> 00:37:05,136
Speaker 4: See, OK, just let it, let it, let it go.

815
00:37:05,216 --> 00:37:07,936
Speaker 3: But now I ripped it dig took it downside my Yeah.

816
00:37:08,696 --> 00:37:11,096
Speaker 4: Are you guys still doing the charity Flag Football Tournament?

817
00:37:11,496 --> 00:37:11,816
Speaker 4: We are.

818
00:37:11,856 --> 00:37:16,536
Speaker 3: It's coming up March twenty first in Yeah, in about

819
00:37:16,536 --> 00:37:19,616
Speaker 3: two weeks to en a week's dude, it's the coolest thing.

820
00:37:19,656 --> 00:37:22,336
Speaker 3: I've been on the board of a foundation before, and

821
00:37:22,376 --> 00:37:24,656
Speaker 3: I've been intimately involved with a couple of foundations for

822
00:37:24,696 --> 00:37:27,416
Speaker 3: a long time, and I was blown away that.

823
00:37:29,576 --> 00:37:31,736
Speaker 4: You have a sold out golf tournament.

824
00:37:32,736 --> 00:37:39,056
Speaker 3: And record breaking you know, donations, and then you run

825
00:37:39,096 --> 00:37:41,416
Speaker 3: the numbers and how expensive it is to run a

826
00:37:41,456 --> 00:37:44,136
Speaker 3: golf tournament. So the margin on it, you know, and

827
00:37:44,176 --> 00:37:45,976
Speaker 3: I was always blown away. I'm like, man, that's good,

828
00:37:46,176 --> 00:37:49,016
Speaker 3: like thirty five percent margins good, that's crazy. And so

829
00:37:49,096 --> 00:37:50,496
Speaker 3: I have the idea of years ago, I'm like, well,

830
00:37:50,496 --> 00:37:52,456
Speaker 3: flag football is like the cheapest thing to do. I

831
00:37:52,496 --> 00:37:56,336
Speaker 3: wonder if we could start, you know, of like I can,

832
00:37:56,616 --> 00:37:59,656
Speaker 3: I know a couple of famous people and starting events.

833
00:37:59,656 --> 00:37:59,976
Speaker 4: So we did it.

834
00:38:00,056 --> 00:38:01,456
Speaker 3: I think this is our fifth year doing it. First

835
00:38:01,536 --> 00:38:04,176
Speaker 3: year we did a high school. We had people buy

836
00:38:04,216 --> 00:38:07,096
Speaker 3: a team for twenty five grand. The money goes in

837
00:38:07,136 --> 00:38:09,216
Speaker 3: the middle all that stuff. Well, I think to date

838
00:38:09,256 --> 00:38:12,056
Speaker 3: we've raised over I think it's eight point seven million.

839
00:38:12,096 --> 00:38:16,256
Speaker 3: We've worked with over ninety charities. The margin of what

840
00:38:16,376 --> 00:38:20,496
Speaker 3: goes actually back to the charities is staggering, doesn't exist,

841
00:38:21,336 --> 00:38:25,856
Speaker 3: and it's become a who's who deal. From Aaron Josh Allen,

842
00:38:25,976 --> 00:38:28,456
Speaker 3: Jered goff sam Donold San Donald won it last He's

843
00:38:28,496 --> 00:38:31,376
Speaker 3: our first guy to win the Celebrity Flag Football Tournament

844
00:38:31,416 --> 00:38:32,576
Speaker 3: and Super Bowl in the same year.

845
00:38:32,576 --> 00:38:33,096
Speaker 4: It's pretty good.

846
00:38:33,096 --> 00:38:39,176
Speaker 3: Omen uh, Bryce Young, I mean we just a SLEW guy,

847
00:38:39,216 --> 00:38:42,496
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, Mike Vick. We got Johnny Manzel coming this year.

848
00:38:42,496 --> 00:38:45,096
Speaker 3: So it's a couple of retired guys and then a

849
00:38:45,096 --> 00:38:48,176
Speaker 3: lot of the best players, you know Jordan Love come

850
00:38:48,176 --> 00:38:51,416
Speaker 3: into it, and uh, it's really cool. So we sell

851
00:38:51,496 --> 00:38:54,816
Speaker 3: the teams, I believe for a quarter million, and none

852
00:38:54,856 --> 00:38:57,936
Speaker 3: of us make a pinion on this, and I am

853
00:38:57,976 --> 00:38:59,776
Speaker 3: c the event. I always have different people. I've had

854
00:38:59,816 --> 00:39:02,096
Speaker 3: Brandon Marshall and see it. I've had Hushminzada mce it.

855
00:39:02,296 --> 00:39:09,056
Speaker 3: This year it's uh uh, Desmond Howard and Marcella Swiley.

856
00:39:09,056 --> 00:39:10,016
Speaker 4: You're gonna mc it with me.

857
00:39:10,656 --> 00:39:14,576
Speaker 3: Super fun and it gets really competitive. So then what

858
00:39:14,656 --> 00:39:18,416
Speaker 3: happened is non quarterbacks were like, I want to come run,

859
00:39:18,736 --> 00:39:20,336
Speaker 3: So I think am and ros Saint Brown's been to

860
00:39:20,336 --> 00:39:24,096
Speaker 3: every one, maybe one he missed. DK Metcalf was everyone

861
00:39:24,136 --> 00:39:26,376
Speaker 3: around last year at PUKA, so we did. We just

862
00:39:26,416 --> 00:39:28,536
Speaker 3: it ends up being kind of like a Who's who deal.

863
00:39:28,576 --> 00:39:31,576
Speaker 3: It's super competitive. And we do it at a junior

864
00:39:31,616 --> 00:39:33,736
Speaker 3: college on the street Sant saddle Back, which is a

865
00:39:33,736 --> 00:39:38,376
Speaker 3: brand new, unbelievable facility. And yeah, and it's it's amazing

866
00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,616
Speaker 3: because we don't have anything like we have all these

867
00:39:40,656 --> 00:39:42,496
Speaker 3: between myself and another guy that does what I do,

868
00:39:42,536 --> 00:39:44,696
Speaker 3: a team of people you know called three DQB that

869
00:39:44,896 --> 00:39:48,416
Speaker 3: they train a lot of quarterbacks. We're both in Orange County,

870
00:39:48,656 --> 00:39:51,136
Speaker 3: so there's all these superstar NFL people in Orange County

871
00:39:51,136 --> 00:39:53,096
Speaker 3: all the time, but there's no like event in Orange County.

872
00:39:53,136 --> 00:39:55,016
Speaker 3: They're just like dudes who live here or rent houses here.

873
00:39:55,296 --> 00:39:58,296
Speaker 3: So this is like the NFL community comes to my hometown,

874
00:39:58,816 --> 00:40:01,736
Speaker 3: you know, every March and h and this year, tickets

875
00:40:01,736 --> 00:40:04,736
Speaker 3: are fifty dollars, which I mean you can't park.

876
00:40:04,536 --> 00:40:07,496
Speaker 4: At an NFL game for less than for fifty bucks.

877
00:40:08,616 --> 00:40:13,056
Speaker 3: And we have vendor village, we have halftime performance, we

878
00:40:13,136 --> 00:40:16,976
Speaker 3: have a kid zone run around, punt pass kick contest

879
00:40:17,576 --> 00:40:19,696
Speaker 3: going on. We're gonna have a kid's flag event during it,

880
00:40:20,776 --> 00:40:24,256
Speaker 3: and it's just up close access. We have VIP tickets available,

881
00:40:24,696 --> 00:40:28,456
Speaker 3: like it's it's some VIP capanas being sold. It is

882
00:40:28,576 --> 00:40:32,616
Speaker 3: just a day and it's out here in South Orange County, California,

883
00:40:32,616 --> 00:40:34,816
Speaker 3: and it's a lot of the biggest names in quarterback.

884
00:40:35,056 --> 00:40:39,296
Speaker 3: All the money goes to charity, and it's uh yeah,

885
00:40:39,336 --> 00:40:40,856
Speaker 3: it's going to be sold out and buzzing.

886
00:40:40,936 --> 00:40:41,696
Speaker 4: It's super fun.

887
00:40:42,096 --> 00:40:44,656
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday, March twenty first, it is Saddleback College Stadium

888
00:40:44,656 --> 00:40:47,736
Speaker 2: in Orange County. That's awesome, Jordan. We always appreciate the time.

889
00:40:47,776 --> 00:40:49,536
Speaker 2: You're one of our favorite guests, so we'll let you

890
00:40:49,616 --> 00:40:51,496
Speaker 2: get back to your day. I feel like I'm taking

891
00:40:51,576 --> 00:40:53,616
Speaker 2: him from his day, like his I mean, he should

892
00:40:53,696 --> 00:40:57,056
Speaker 2: be putting the script together right now. Let's run that boot,

893
00:40:57,096 --> 00:40:58,416
Speaker 2: all right, get your hips down here.

894
00:40:58,856 --> 00:41:00,496
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna tell him how a good base get

895
00:41:00,496 --> 00:41:01,616
Speaker 3: their elbow up and follow through.

896
00:41:01,776 --> 00:41:04,456
Speaker 4: Yeah, fall through. Pull that front arm down, pull that

897
00:41:04,536 --> 00:41:06,776
Speaker 4: front arm down. Ye, pull it down. Then all right, Georgian,

898
00:41:06,816 --> 00:41:08,416
Speaker 4: Thank you, Buddy. Good to see Thanks Bud.

899
00:41:08,776 --> 00:41:21,896
Speaker 7: Thanks guys.

900
00:41:25,576 --> 00:41:27,056
Speaker 9: All right, what do you got over their castle? What's

901
00:41:27,056 --> 00:41:29,976
Speaker 9: topic number one? Topic number one? I mean, well, you've

902
00:41:29,976 --> 00:41:32,256
Speaker 9: got to talk about this Scott in Combine. I mean

903
00:41:32,896 --> 00:41:35,216
Speaker 9: it was the fastest in history that they said defensive

904
00:41:35,256 --> 00:41:38,616
Speaker 9: backs averaged four point four to four. Wide receivers average

905
00:41:38,656 --> 00:41:41,016
Speaker 9: four point four to four. Running backs average four point

906
00:41:41,016 --> 00:41:44,856
Speaker 9: four to five linebackers. This was surprising me. Four point

907
00:41:44,936 --> 00:41:48,096
Speaker 9: five to five. Tight ends average four point.

908
00:41:47,856 --> 00:41:51,496
Speaker 4: Six y three. Did you see, by the way, Sadigrane

909
00:41:51,496 --> 00:41:52,616
Speaker 4: four point three nine? Right?

910
00:41:52,816 --> 00:41:55,536
Speaker 5: Yeah, who does that? A two forty five? I mean

911
00:41:55,696 --> 00:41:59,896
Speaker 5: some of these times were just ridiculous. Defensive line four

912
00:41:59,936 --> 00:42:02,576
Speaker 5: point eight three, in offense five point one, which you

913
00:42:02,616 --> 00:42:04,976
Speaker 5: think offensive linemen sometimes the are five point one. The

914
00:42:05,016 --> 00:42:07,496
Speaker 5: onlyquarterback group, I mean, the quarterback group was the only

915
00:42:07,496 --> 00:42:09,936
Speaker 5: group that did not have the best time ever, but

916
00:42:09,976 --> 00:42:11,976
Speaker 5: it was the second best at four point six. And

917
00:42:12,016 --> 00:42:13,816
Speaker 5: I think a lot of that had to do with

918
00:42:13,856 --> 00:42:14,976
Speaker 5: your boy from Arkansas.

919
00:42:15,336 --> 00:42:18,016
Speaker 2: Well, we had two guys that flew. So our quarterback

920
00:42:18,056 --> 00:42:20,896
Speaker 2: Taylor Green, who was good. He ran a four to

921
00:42:20,936 --> 00:42:23,976
Speaker 2: three to six, fastest of any quarterback. We only won

922
00:42:24,016 --> 00:42:26,416
Speaker 2: two games six We only won two games, which is

923
00:42:26,456 --> 00:42:28,896
Speaker 2: what's crazy. And we had a good offensive line, but

924
00:42:28,936 --> 00:42:30,376
Speaker 2: our offense did score a bunch of points.

925
00:42:30,656 --> 00:42:32,176
Speaker 4: But he ran a four to three to six. And

926
00:42:32,336 --> 00:42:34,936
Speaker 4: Mike Washington junior, you're running back, he ran a four

927
00:42:35,016 --> 00:42:35,776
Speaker 4: three three.

928
00:42:36,296 --> 00:42:38,336
Speaker 2: We had two of the fastest guys because he was

929
00:42:38,336 --> 00:42:41,296
Speaker 2: the fastest quarterback, Taylor Green was and Washington was fastest

930
00:42:41,336 --> 00:42:41,856
Speaker 2: running back.

931
00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:42,936
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.

932
00:42:42,976 --> 00:42:45,456
Speaker 2: Taylor Green, though, also had the highest of any quarterback,

933
00:42:45,576 --> 00:42:47,376
Speaker 2: and his broad jump was the furthest. But he also

934
00:42:47,376 --> 00:42:49,856
Speaker 2: set records like of all time except when it's time

935
00:42:49,896 --> 00:42:52,096
Speaker 2: did not matter in the combine, that's when we win.

936
00:42:52,256 --> 00:42:55,936
Speaker 5: Taylor Green jumped a forty three point five vertical forty

937
00:42:55,936 --> 00:42:56,536
Speaker 5: three point five.

938
00:42:56,576 --> 00:42:58,696
Speaker 2: That to me, it doesn't mean anything to me because

939
00:42:58,736 --> 00:42:59,096
Speaker 2: I know.

940
00:42:59,216 --> 00:43:04,536
Speaker 5: That is so explosive, it's ridiculous. I mean it to

941
00:43:04,616 --> 00:43:06,536
Speaker 5: be able to stand there with your feet on the

942
00:43:06,536 --> 00:43:09,016
Speaker 5: ground and jump that high, that just means you're just

943
00:43:09,096 --> 00:43:10,976
Speaker 5: a different type of athlete.

944
00:43:11,056 --> 00:43:14,576
Speaker 2: When they say the most, I go, wow, that is elite.

945
00:43:14,736 --> 00:43:17,456
Speaker 2: But when you give those numbers, I've never measured a vertical, right,

946
00:43:17,496 --> 00:43:19,496
Speaker 2: Guys like Kevin, if you're a measure vertical.

947
00:43:19,376 --> 00:43:21,176
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when I played football, do you know

948
00:43:21,216 --> 00:43:21,856
Speaker 4: what your number was?

949
00:43:22,256 --> 00:43:24,656
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, come on, Kevin, give us

950
00:43:24,696 --> 00:43:25,855
Speaker 2: a number, give us a shot.

951
00:43:26,016 --> 00:43:26,176
Speaker 4: Run.

952
00:43:26,896 --> 00:43:30,176
Speaker 2: So when they run forties, like you got that right?

953
00:43:30,216 --> 00:43:31,736
Speaker 2: Oh man, God, I don't know, my god, but I

954
00:43:31,896 --> 00:43:32,456
Speaker 2: understand it.

955
00:43:32,536 --> 00:43:37,216
Speaker 5: Oh No, anything that's probably above thirty seven, I would say,

956
00:43:37,216 --> 00:43:39,976
Speaker 5: thirty seven, thirty eight, you're jumping out of the building.

957
00:43:40,376 --> 00:43:42,976
Speaker 5: When you get up into the forties, you're just a

958
00:43:43,016 --> 00:43:45,336
Speaker 5: different type of athlete. There was a tight end from

959
00:43:45,376 --> 00:43:48,456
Speaker 5: Vandy that jumped to forty five forty five inches. I mean,

960
00:43:48,536 --> 00:43:50,456
Speaker 5: it's pretty significant, I believe you.

961
00:43:50,536 --> 00:43:52,936
Speaker 2: But it's almost like when the news stories go, Americans

962
00:43:52,936 --> 00:43:55,296
Speaker 2: will forty two billion tons of buffalo wings are in

963
00:43:55,296 --> 00:43:56,376
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and I'm like, I know that's a

964
00:43:56,376 --> 00:43:58,296
Speaker 2: big number, but what does that mean per person? Like

965
00:43:58,376 --> 00:44:00,216
Speaker 2: I need stuff broken down.

966
00:44:00,456 --> 00:44:02,896
Speaker 5: I just think Taylor Green is probably one of those

967
00:44:02,896 --> 00:44:08,816
Speaker 5: guys that's captivated every GM and everybody in that building

968
00:44:08,856 --> 00:44:11,776
Speaker 5: that was watching because of the freakish numbers that he

969
00:44:11,816 --> 00:44:14,056
Speaker 5: put up. He said to all time records in almost

970
00:44:14,336 --> 00:44:15,256
Speaker 5: all these categories.

971
00:44:15,296 --> 00:44:17,616
Speaker 4: He also has a good arm. He's got a good arm.

972
00:44:17,656 --> 00:44:18,616
Speaker 4: He's a good quarterback.

973
00:44:18,936 --> 00:44:23,096
Speaker 5: I wonder for him how much this is going to

974
00:44:23,096 --> 00:44:25,936
Speaker 5: improve his draft socket quarterback. And at the same time,

975
00:44:27,176 --> 00:44:29,696
Speaker 5: are some teams going to look at him and say,

976
00:44:29,736 --> 00:44:31,936
Speaker 5: this guy's not just a quarterback, but he's a pure

977
00:44:32,096 --> 00:44:34,776
Speaker 5: athlete as well, and he could help us in different ways,

978
00:44:35,136 --> 00:44:37,576
Speaker 5: you know, And that's always the discussion that sometimes takes

979
00:44:37,616 --> 00:44:40,336
Speaker 5: place with us. Somebody that has those type of skill

980
00:44:40,376 --> 00:44:43,536
Speaker 5: sets that well, if he doesn't work out as a quarterback,

981
00:44:43,576 --> 00:44:46,176
Speaker 5: maybe they move him to wide receiver or something like that.

982
00:44:46,216 --> 00:44:48,536
Speaker 4: But I know this kid can play quarterback position.

983
00:44:48,976 --> 00:44:50,696
Speaker 2: I think this will get him drafted. I think he

984
00:44:50,736 --> 00:44:52,696
Speaker 2: probably would would have been a free agent and he

985
00:44:52,776 --> 00:44:54,336
Speaker 2: get to pick where he goes. And you know, he

986
00:44:54,376 --> 00:44:55,776
Speaker 2: probably could have had a couple years in the league

987
00:44:55,776 --> 00:44:57,496
Speaker 2: playing scout team. But I think because he's able to

988
00:44:57,496 --> 00:44:59,616
Speaker 2: show a fast, how strong, how explosive he is, I

989
00:44:59,616 --> 00:45:02,136
Speaker 2: think now he'll get drafted, which is great for him

990
00:45:02,536 --> 00:45:05,656
Speaker 2: because he was great at Arkansas for two years. It's

991
00:45:05,656 --> 00:45:06,456
Speaker 2: disappointing to make it.

992
00:45:06,776 --> 00:45:09,536
Speaker 5: I still go back to like Anthony Richardson, who was

993
00:45:09,736 --> 00:45:13,336
Speaker 5: out of Florida that got drafted based off of not

994
00:45:13,456 --> 00:45:16,016
Speaker 5: his productivity in college. He only played one year and

995
00:45:16,016 --> 00:45:18,056
Speaker 5: then I don't even know if he played that whole season.

996
00:45:18,376 --> 00:45:19,256
Speaker 4: But he went out.

997
00:45:19,056 --> 00:45:23,776
Speaker 5: There and just yes, athleticism off the Yeah, it was incredible,

998
00:45:23,816 --> 00:45:25,536
Speaker 5: and to watch him throw and do all that stuff.

999
00:45:26,056 --> 00:45:28,416
Speaker 4: He's gonna get traded by the way he did.

1000
00:45:28,456 --> 00:45:30,576
Speaker 2: Ask He hasn't been traded yet as far as I've seen, No,

1001
00:45:30,616 --> 00:45:32,296
Speaker 2: as far as right now, no, Yeah, but he did.

1002
00:45:32,416 --> 00:45:34,376
Speaker 2: They did go yeah, go ahead and look for a trade.

1003
00:45:34,576 --> 00:45:36,736
Speaker 2: I didn't think he was terrible, he just couldn't stay healthy,

1004
00:45:37,176 --> 00:45:39,855
Speaker 2: and he was great and then he was awful. And also,

1005
00:45:39,896 --> 00:45:42,056
Speaker 2: I think the version of the quarterback we're seeing now

1006
00:45:42,176 --> 00:45:44,456
Speaker 2: is come in, they'll start you immediately.

1007
00:45:44,776 --> 00:45:45,576
Speaker 4: Then you're gonna get.

1008
00:45:45,456 --> 00:45:47,815
Speaker 2: Benched, and then you're gonna wait and you're gonna learn,

1009
00:45:47,856 --> 00:45:49,336
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna come back. And if you're better

1010
00:45:49,376 --> 00:45:52,496
Speaker 2: the second time, then you're good. Then you're still young

1011
00:45:52,576 --> 00:45:54,776
Speaker 2: enough to know that there's development to take place. But

1012
00:45:54,816 --> 00:45:56,656
Speaker 2: these coaches don't have time to wait. So you're gonna

1013
00:45:56,656 --> 00:45:58,656
Speaker 2: bring in a guy like Daniel Jones to come compete

1014
00:45:58,656 --> 00:46:00,656
Speaker 2: with you, and they're gonna go with the guy that

1015
00:46:00,696 --> 00:46:02,896
Speaker 2: they think is gonna give him consistency throughout the year

1016
00:46:02,936 --> 00:46:06,336
Speaker 2: because they don't have time for the growth model in

1017
00:46:06,376 --> 00:46:09,696
Speaker 2: the NFL, because every team is going out there year

1018
00:46:09,736 --> 00:46:12,616
Speaker 2: and year out and trying to win now or jobs

1019
00:46:12,616 --> 00:46:14,696
Speaker 2: are on the line. GM's jobs are on the line,

1020
00:46:14,736 --> 00:46:17,056
Speaker 2: and so they're going to always try to get a

1021
00:46:17,096 --> 00:46:19,376
Speaker 2: guy in there that can give him the best opportunity now.

1022
00:46:19,416 --> 00:46:22,816
Speaker 2: And that's the tough part about guys that need time

1023
00:46:22,896 --> 00:46:25,976
Speaker 2: to develop, which every quarterback when you come in the league.

1024
00:46:25,976 --> 00:46:28,856
Speaker 2: I don't care how much experience that you've had at

1025
00:46:28,856 --> 00:46:32,696
Speaker 2: the college level. It's going to take some adapting and

1026
00:46:33,016 --> 00:46:34,856
Speaker 2: time on task for you to realize how to be

1027
00:46:34,896 --> 00:46:38,816
Speaker 2: a professional, how to win games in the NFL, because

1028
00:46:39,016 --> 00:46:41,736
Speaker 2: it's really difficult. But next play twenty years in college

1029
00:46:41,736 --> 00:46:45,616
Speaker 2: and he still needed a year, you know, through a pension.

1030
00:46:45,376 --> 00:46:48,936
Speaker 5: From twenty six year old rookie. He's like twenty he

1031
00:46:49,056 --> 00:46:50,896
Speaker 5: will be twenty eight this year. I was like, Wow,

1032
00:46:50,976 --> 00:46:54,016
Speaker 5: it's getting up there to serious. I think he's up there.

1033
00:46:54,296 --> 00:46:56,896
Speaker 4: No, he might not be the USC basketball player twenty six.

1034
00:46:56,936 --> 00:46:59,416
Speaker 4: You got kick off the team? Oh yeah, what chick

1035
00:46:59,496 --> 00:46:59,736
Speaker 4: off for?

1036
00:47:00,496 --> 00:47:02,296
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's been on a lot of teams.

1037
00:47:02,496 --> 00:47:06,696
Speaker 2: Yea six usual when you see someone that's been on

1038
00:47:06,736 --> 00:47:09,016
Speaker 2: a whole lot of teams at college. Yeah, there's a

1039
00:47:09,056 --> 00:47:10,256
Speaker 2: reason they've been on a whole lot of times.

1040
00:47:10,256 --> 00:47:12,096
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know, some of them are chasing a

1041
00:47:12,136 --> 00:47:14,696
Speaker 5: little bit of that bag, but most of them are. Look,

1042
00:47:14,816 --> 00:47:17,815
Speaker 5: you haven't worked out, you're frustrated. I'm gonna go see

1043
00:47:17,856 --> 00:47:19,216
Speaker 5: if I can play here. See if I can play here,

1044
00:47:19,216 --> 00:47:20,056
Speaker 5: See if I can play here.

1045
00:47:20,136 --> 00:47:21,776
Speaker 4: Hate that. I'm going to go over to this.

1046
00:47:21,856 --> 00:47:25,976
Speaker 2: You posted a picture throwback to you participating in the combine,

1047
00:47:25,976 --> 00:47:26,816
Speaker 2: but it was a blank picture.

1048
00:47:26,896 --> 00:47:28,616
Speaker 4: That's right. This is a nice little joke. Thank you.

1049
00:47:29,776 --> 00:47:32,816
Speaker 2: And someone asked Grok to verify if that blank photo

1050
00:47:33,016 --> 00:47:36,536
Speaker 2: was you, and Grok is obviously not Gronk. Grok you

1051
00:47:36,616 --> 00:47:39,736
Speaker 2: familar with Grok, he's AI oh great, yeah yeah, And

1052
00:47:39,776 --> 00:47:42,776
Speaker 2: Grok said that's Matt Castle and a legit throwback from

1053
00:47:42,816 --> 00:47:44,336
Speaker 2: two thousand and five pre draft workout.

1054
00:47:44,416 --> 00:47:52,176
Speaker 4: Solid pick nobs see that even AI hey ies got me. Dude,

1055
00:47:52,576 --> 00:47:54,456
Speaker 4: all right, give me one more. I want to talk about.

1056
00:47:54,496 --> 00:47:58,776
Speaker 5: Texans acquiring running back David Montgomery from the Lions in

1057
00:47:58,816 --> 00:48:00,536
Speaker 5: the trade. I think it's a great trade for the

1058
00:48:00,576 --> 00:48:02,776
Speaker 5: Houston Texans. Now, they did give up some capital here.

1059
00:48:02,776 --> 00:48:04,696
Speaker 5: They give up two draft picks, and they gave up

1060
00:48:04,736 --> 00:48:09,696
Speaker 5: offensive line and juice scrugs. But that combination between Gibbs

1061
00:48:09,696 --> 00:48:13,216
Speaker 5: and Montgomery was pretty legit. I'm interested to know why

1062
00:48:13,256 --> 00:48:16,056
Speaker 5: they made that trade with David Montgomery and why they

1063
00:48:16,096 --> 00:48:17,416
Speaker 5: felt two draft picks.

1064
00:48:17,456 --> 00:48:18,976
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly where they are. I think they're

1065
00:48:18,976 --> 00:48:20,176
Speaker 4: the fourth round is the fourth?

1066
00:48:20,336 --> 00:48:20,416
Speaker 5: Right?

1067
00:48:20,416 --> 00:48:23,136
Speaker 4: At first it was just a fifth, fourth, fourth or seventh.

1068
00:48:24,336 --> 00:48:27,096
Speaker 2: Here's my theory, they didn't need to go, and they

1069
00:48:27,136 --> 00:48:29,576
Speaker 2: didn't go as much with Gibbs and Montgomery last year,

1070
00:48:29,696 --> 00:48:31,616
Speaker 2: two years ago, that was the That was the move.

1071
00:48:31,696 --> 00:48:32,376
Speaker 4: He was a rookie.

1072
00:48:32,936 --> 00:48:35,016
Speaker 2: Last year, Montgomery played, but Gibbs.

1073
00:48:34,696 --> 00:48:36,736
Speaker 4: Was the guy and he's going to remain the guy.

1074
00:48:36,736 --> 00:48:39,696
Speaker 2: And when Gifts wasn't on the field, you were playing

1075
00:48:39,776 --> 00:48:42,296
Speaker 2: lesser than you were when he was on the field.

1076
00:48:42,696 --> 00:48:45,816
Speaker 2: So I do think they'll replenish that spot with somebody

1077
00:48:45,816 --> 00:48:49,016
Speaker 2: who can take twelve carries a game. But they didn't

1078
00:48:49,016 --> 00:48:51,776
Speaker 2: need a two headed monster there anymore, So I think

1079
00:48:51,816 --> 00:48:55,216
Speaker 2: that gave them the advantage of trading someone who still

1080
00:48:55,256 --> 00:48:57,896
Speaker 2: has a little tread on the tire and to a

1081
00:48:57,896 --> 00:49:00,176
Speaker 2: team who needed a running back. No doubt, the Texas

1082
00:49:00,216 --> 00:49:01,815
Speaker 2: will take every running back that was hurt. Are you hurt,

1083
00:49:01,856 --> 00:49:02,576
Speaker 2: we love to sign.

1084
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Speaker 5: We're going to sign you, and then the next person

1085
00:49:04,296 --> 00:49:06,376
Speaker 5: going to hurt. They had a lot injuries at that position.

1086
00:49:06,496 --> 00:49:09,016
Speaker 5: David Montgomery can still go, for sure. But I agree

1087
00:49:09,016 --> 00:49:11,296
Speaker 5: with you because when you look at Gibbs, he's going

1088
00:49:11,376 --> 00:49:13,576
Speaker 5: to be your featured guy. You just need somebody to

1089
00:49:13,616 --> 00:49:15,736
Speaker 5: come in and spell him and somebody to hold down

1090
00:49:15,736 --> 00:49:17,456
Speaker 5: the fort. God forbid something was to happen to him,

1091
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Speaker 5: because you've always got to have depth at that running

1092
00:49:20,056 --> 00:49:23,296
Speaker 5: back position, because they get it's the nature of the beast.

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Speaker 4: Say in that position, you're gonna get banged up, Kevin

1094
00:49:25,896 --> 00:49:27,576
Speaker 4: anything on the Patriots minute over there.

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Speaker 6: No, I kind of want to retract on something I

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00:49:30,576 --> 00:49:35,296
Speaker 6: said a couple weeks ago. Actually, yes, yes, I've been

1097
00:49:35,296 --> 00:49:38,616
Speaker 6: thinking about a log a lot. And after they lost

1098
00:49:38,616 --> 00:49:40,496
Speaker 6: Super Bowl, you know, we were talking about, Hey, do

1099
00:49:40,496 --> 00:49:42,296
Speaker 6: you feel good about the future.

1100
00:49:41,976 --> 00:49:42,896
Speaker 4: And I was pretty down.

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00:49:47,216 --> 00:49:49,216
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I just want to go back and say,

1102
00:49:49,216 --> 00:49:51,336
Speaker 6: you know what, we got Rabel, we got Drake may,

1103
00:49:51,336 --> 00:49:52,496
Speaker 6: we got a bright future.

1104
00:49:52,976 --> 00:49:54,016
Speaker 4: We're gonna be fine.

1105
00:49:54,176 --> 00:49:56,176
Speaker 2: And I can't wait to see what we do next year.

1106
00:49:56,296 --> 00:49:58,016
Speaker 4: What do you want to see them do in the draft?

1107
00:49:58,336 --> 00:50:00,296
Speaker 6: I'd like to see him get more receiver help. I

1108
00:50:00,336 --> 00:50:01,496
Speaker 6: don't know what they're going to do with Digs. I

1109
00:50:01,536 --> 00:50:02,856
Speaker 6: know he's got a couple more years, but it sounds

1110
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Speaker 6: like he may or may not stick around.

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Speaker 2: Dix is like that twenty six year old basketball player

1112
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Speaker 2: I was talking about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like the reason eve been on so many teams, Yeah, yeah,

1114
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's because the quality of play either,

1115
00:50:14,376 --> 00:50:16,136
Speaker 4: I agree the line and no line too.

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00:50:16,176 --> 00:50:17,776
Speaker 6: I think are the number one and number two.

1117
00:50:17,816 --> 00:50:19,816
Speaker 2: Things can't go wrong with either one, but I think

1118
00:50:19,816 --> 00:50:21,576
Speaker 2: we need help on both of them. Well you just

1119
00:50:21,616 --> 00:50:29,936
Speaker 2: said three positions. Yeah, well.

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Speaker 4: We need linebacker.

1121
00:50:29,016 --> 00:50:31,736
Speaker 2: Oh wait, okay, now drafts in your the first round,

1122
00:50:31,776 --> 00:50:33,256
Speaker 2: not a player, what position would.

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Speaker 4: You go to? Defensive end? Defensive lineman.

1124
00:50:34,976 --> 00:50:37,936
Speaker 5: There's a lot of them in this draft too. Boy, yeah,

1125
00:50:37,976 --> 00:50:40,056
Speaker 5: that would be good. How would you like Rvel Reese?

1126
00:50:40,136 --> 00:50:41,376
Speaker 5: But there's no way you guys are going to.

1127
00:50:41,376 --> 00:50:43,456
Speaker 4: Get the short arm though. You got all the short

1128
00:50:43,536 --> 00:50:44,736
Speaker 4: arms like that don't mean your thing.

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00:50:44,776 --> 00:50:46,496
Speaker 2: You just draft the short arm guys exactly.

1130
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Speaker 4: We'll call the New England short arms New England short arms.

1131
00:50:49,256 --> 00:50:52,296
Speaker 4: But you're drafting thirty one too. So yeah, but there's

1132
00:50:52,296 --> 00:50:53,816
Speaker 4: some depth at defensive end.

1133
00:50:53,856 --> 00:50:56,456
Speaker 5: There's a ton of depth in this draft, particularly on

1134
00:50:56,456 --> 00:50:57,296
Speaker 5: the defense side of the ball.

1135
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Speaker 4: I think it'll be a defensive driven draft.

1136
00:50:58,976 --> 00:51:02,016
Speaker 5: They've got great depth at the wide receiver position, but

1137
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Speaker 5: in tier defensive linement and defensive end it's huge.

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00:51:05,816 --> 00:51:09,256
Speaker 4: Yeah. So well that'll do her. Thank you all. We

1139
00:51:09,296 --> 00:51:14,176
Speaker 4: will see you soon. Who knows when we'll see you again? Yeah,

1140
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Speaker 4: and we will it's Kevin. Let's kickoff Kevin. That's Brandon Ray.

1141
00:51:16,776 --> 00:51:18,976
Speaker 4: That's Matt Castle on Bobby Bones. We've had lots to

1142
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Speaker 4: say goodbye, everybody.

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