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Speaker 1: It is a midweek Wednesday. Hey tell me this is

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Speaker 1: a slow week. It doesn't feel like it. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. We are live, We're in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: It's The Herd, Jmac. Major League Baseball. I know on

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Speaker 1: these shows, nobody likes anybody in power. They don't like.

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Speaker 1: They don't like people in Canada. If you're the Prime minister,

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Speaker 1: everybody's devisive. Nobody likes commissioners, but Rob Manfred Baseball has

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Speaker 1: been a case study in how to pivot in a

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Speaker 1: business that's got tradition and lore and history and a

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Speaker 1: lot of purists. Last night was three and a half

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Speaker 1: hours of great television for an exhibition. It was really good?

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Speaker 1: Was that not fun? That was as good as all? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean the Pro Bowls unwatchable, NBA All Star Games unwatchable.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna sound like a homer. But the

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Speaker 1: Fox production on that broadcast last night was magnificent, a

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Speaker 1: masterclass in TV production. Between that the ABS system, lots

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Speaker 1: of runs. Let's talk about it because Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago got over itself and decided

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Speaker 1: let's lean into entertainment. They didn't need to revolutionize, they

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Speaker 1: just kind of needed to retro fit. What the twenty

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Speaker 1: they want to watch? Home run derby ratings up last night?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure ratings will be significantly up. Miking Clayton Kershaw

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Speaker 1: a legend? Are Sandy Kofax? Miking him? I could have

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Speaker 1: sat and watched that for an hour. Here's a clip.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you're doing this, Clayton.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there, let's try to throw some cheese real quick.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, all right? Going cheese again? Oh yeah, that's smart.

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Speaker 1: I mean you and Paul Skeens are pretty much the

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Speaker 1: same guy right.

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Speaker 2: Down the middle. I'm so glad you didn't swing.

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Speaker 3: What do you want, smoltzy?

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Speaker 2: What do you want?

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Speaker 3: Cut her in? Slider in? I don't throw a cutter

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Speaker 3: smelty slider?

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Speaker 2: Son of them? All right? What's the count? Too, too,

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Speaker 2: so weird talking to you, guys. It's kind of.

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Speaker 3: Hey, sit him down, thanks guys. That was fun.

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Speaker 2: That was fun.

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Speaker 1: I kind of just sat and watched that. That's fascinating,

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Speaker 1: an inside glimpse, lean into entertainment, lean into technology. Now

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Speaker 1: some of baseball's growth, it's because Aaron Judge plays for

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Speaker 1: the Yankees, no tany plays for the Dodgers, and the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers have might as well have a Nationalague All Star team,

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Speaker 1: but they're stars in Kansas City and stars in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: and the sport just stop fawning over tradition and stop

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Speaker 1: taking itself so seriously and also wearing the real jerseys

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Speaker 1: for casuals and purists alike. That last two years have

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Speaker 1: been amazing by this sport. And so the National League

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Speaker 1: But they had a big six inning, a couple of

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Speaker 1: League roared back from a six nothing deficit because of Hello,

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Speaker 1: the Sacramento A's Brent Rooker, let's hear it, wait to

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Speaker 1: Sacramento A's bringing the American League back from a six

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Speaker 1: Didn't need to revolutionize the sport, speed it up, retro

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Speaker 1: That's the best All Star game in any sport I've

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Speaker 1: But now, and you know, listen, some of it is

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Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt that Joe Davis sounds like a young

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Speaker 1: Vin Scully. It just felt magnificent. It felt big, and

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Speaker 1: baseball has been in about a three year heater. Two

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Speaker 1: things can be true. You can respect tradition but not

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Speaker 1: be beholden to it. And that's what baseball has done

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Speaker 1: a very good job of. And last night fantastic, just

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Speaker 1: fantastic television. Beginning to end. I watched an hour and

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Speaker 1: a half of the pregame show. That's how much. I

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Speaker 1: was into it. Okay, so I said yesterday this. You

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Speaker 1: know it's July. So any little breadcrumb of an NBA

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Speaker 1: or star rumor, it's an inferno. I don't buy Lebron

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Speaker 1: James is going to get traded. He's still really good.

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Speaker 1: It's an expiring contract. Let's see what happens to the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. The Lakers could have even more leverage. But

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the betting odds today and they are

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Speaker 1: heating up that Dallas. Dallas is the favorite now to

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Speaker 1: get Lebron James. Well, if that's the case, Lebron wins again.

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Speaker 1: No state tax, upgraded coach Cooper flag reunited with Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Let's be honest about the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: I think JJ Reddick had a decent first year. I

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Speaker 1: like him. We don't know if he's ever going to

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Speaker 1: be as good as Jason Kidd. Maybe not. He got

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, I'm told, can't trade him seriously, not much

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Speaker 1: of a bench, not much size so or no state tax.

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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd unbelievable size, including a D. I mean I

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Speaker 1: said this, yet you have Luca. But here's a potential lineup. Now,

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Speaker 1: for simplicity's sake, I said, if you did a trade,

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Speaker 1: let's say you give them Coop, you give them Klayt Thompson, PJ. Washington,

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks lineup, Kyrie Irving, Cooper Flag, Lebron, Anthony Davis,

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Speaker 1: great big on rookie deals for years. So you're telling

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Speaker 1: me this is a punishment for Lebron. I would sign

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Speaker 1: up for that today. Better coach reunited with two guys

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Speaker 1: I've played very well with and won a title with

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Speaker 1: Kyrie and Anthony Davis and the great domestic star. And

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Speaker 1: here's the thing with Lebron. Lebron is forty one years old.

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Speaker 1: He does not want to be in the floor defending

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Speaker 1: at an elite level. He doesn't well Anthony Davis and

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Speaker 1: Lively are great rim protectors, so you don't have to

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flag is going to be a great offensive player

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. He's gonna be a really good defender. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so he may only average twenty four tops, I don't

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Speaker 1: know he'll defend year one. So if this is the

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Speaker 1: punishment for Lebron James, sign up now for it. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen. Here was Anthony Slater from

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Speaker 1: The Athletic on a potential Lebron trade out of LA.

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Speaker 5: The Lakers, you know, can go search for, you know,

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Speaker 5: a younger co star for Luka Doncics in the in

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Speaker 5: the market if they want to. Flexibility optionality has become

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Speaker 5: a popular term in the league, and that's clearly what

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Speaker 5: the Lakers they are prioritizing here. And it's understandable.

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Speaker 2: Just look at the ages.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: Lebron's gonna turn forty one next year. It's unbelievable what

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Speaker 2: But as you.

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Speaker 5: Mentioned, locking into longer term money on him, you know,

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Speaker 5: kind of handcuffed them a little bit on building around Luca.

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Speaker 1: Listen, if if Lebron won a fourth title and that

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Speaker 1: team with Anthony Davis, if you can keep Lively in

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis as rim protectors, because you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: get they have so much depth in Dallas in their

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Speaker 1: front line. They're huge, best center rotation in the league.

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Speaker 1: Lakers need, I mean DeAndre eight and you're going to

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Speaker 1: be over him by like January fifteenth. You're going to

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Speaker 1: that's what the new owners want. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: be tied to like gigantic, massive contract. You probably have

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Speaker 1: to give up Klay Thompson. He could come back to

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Michael Thompson, his dad, a very nice guy,

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Speaker 1: played for the Lakers. Send him draft picks size. But

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Speaker 1: if that's punishment, I said this. You know, sports is

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Speaker 1: the day the tariffs are going to ruin the economy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I looked at the stock market this week.

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Speaker 1: It's at forty four thousand plus the Dow. It just

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Speaker 1: depends on the day the moment, the reaction, investor sentiment.

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Speaker 1: When this trade got done, Luca to the Lakers, it

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Speaker 1: was the end of the Mavericks franchise. And I said,

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Speaker 1: on this show in front of this microphone, no it's not.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Dallas fell apart physically, so it looked far worse than

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Speaker 1: it was. But Laker fans got a glimpse of what

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Speaker 1: Luca is singularly, a profoundly gifted offensive player, that's what

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Speaker 1: he is. And he kind of feels like he's aging quickly.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I've always said that you can talk

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Speaker 1: you pay close attention. Everybody said Lakers are going to

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Speaker 1: win titles and Dallas is done, and I kept saying, no,

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Speaker 1: they're not. They've got a great coach, it's an attractive place.

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Speaker 1: They got Kyrie, they've got Anthony Davis and a man

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Speaker 1: center rotation. And in the NBA, guards and bigs are

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Speaker 1: really important right now. You know, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: defend Jokic, gonna have to defend Wemby, you gotta defend Giannis.

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Speaker 1: You know you gotta have bigs. Okay, see, you won

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Speaker 1: a title, had two bigs Holmgren Hartenstein. So this is

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Speaker 1: just so funny. The way sports works is everybody thought

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Speaker 1: Dallas was doomed. If this thing came to fruition, sign

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Speaker 1: me up for Dallas minimum Western Conference finals. J Mac

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear it. I'm becoming a Mavericks fan.

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Speaker 1: My only question is would the GM Nico Harrison want

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Speaker 1: to make another deal. I would do that deal in

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Speaker 1: one second. I'd give you two bigs, three first round picks,

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Speaker 1: Klay Thompson, put in a third team and every I've

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Speaker 1: said this before, Austin Reeves with Lebron James, you're talking

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Speaker 1: yourself into Wow. Put Austin Reeves in Washington and he disappears,

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Speaker 7: If I'm the Lakers, there's no way I'm doing the deal.

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Speaker 7: But if you swap out Gafford for Lively, Lively's younger,

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Speaker 1: To play with Luca.

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Speaker 1: I think they're I love that team this year. In

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Speaker 1: the next year, your team with KD, Let's see what transpires.

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Speaker 1: And with that, Urban Meyer, three time national champions now

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Speaker 1: college football season. So it's interesting. But just about Nick.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can do that anymore. There's not

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Speaker 2: enough money.

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Speaker 1: Finally, I think the best player in college football and

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Speaker 1: he won't be eligible as Jermaine Smith. I think Ohio

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Speaker 1: State's receiver.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, and I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of somebody i'd have to go

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Speaker 1: back to Hugh Green that played for Pittsburgh where I

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Speaker 1: literally saw somebody and I thought, oh, he'd be an

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Speaker 1: elite NFL player as a sophomore in college. Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: at LSU felt like that, You're like, yeah, he's an

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Speaker 1: NFL player plan on Saturdays. He's way too good for

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Speaker 1: college football. How do you coach a guy that is

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Speaker 1: so good and so gifted? How do you keep him engaged?

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Speaker 1: How do you keep him focused? How do you keep

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Speaker 1: him happy? Because he didn't even look like a college player.

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Speaker 9: I've had to I can't say I've had a Jermaine

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Speaker 9: Smith Jeremiah Smith, but I've had a couple that you

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Speaker 9: just got to constantly challenge him. The best thing that

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Speaker 9: Ohio State has is incredible defense. So his biggest challenges

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Speaker 9: a lot of times aren't necessarily the games on Saturday.

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Speaker 9: It's the Tuesday and Wednesday practice. And I felt that

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Speaker 9: when I had to Nick Bosa, or I had Percy

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Speaker 9: Harvin or some of those guys who is so much

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Speaker 9: better than really everyone else. A lot of times bear

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Speaker 9: anybody else. Youuld play until you get to those big games.

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Speaker 9: Then you challenge the heck out of him in practice.

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Speaker 9: And that's a good thing about Jeremiah Smith and Ohio State.

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Speaker 9: His biggest you know, his biggest challenges A lot of

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Speaker 9: times are going against each other in practice. That's when

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Speaker 9: iron charps is iron. And I've dealt with that and

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Speaker 9: I know that's what's happening in Columbus. They got some

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Speaker 9: good corners and that's one of the biggest challenge to

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Speaker 9: motivate him every day to go to work.

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, not German. I made a mistake, jeremih Smith.

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Speaker 1: Finally Texas Ohio State playing the opener. We all want

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Speaker 1: to see arch Manning. I want to see arch Manning.

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Speaker 1: What what will you need to see? How are you

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Speaker 1: going to view that game? I don't care a lot

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Speaker 1: about stats. I want to see what happens when he

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Speaker 1: faces pressure. That's what I want to see. That this

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Speaker 1: will be the best front he faces. My guess is

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Speaker 1: what are you looking for from arch Manning?

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Speaker 9: Really interesting to hear and I got a strong opinion

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Speaker 9: because I coached Tebow when after he won the Heisman

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Speaker 9: Trophy as a sophomore, he won the national championship as

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Speaker 9: a junior. His senior year, the scrutiny, the expectations we'd

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Speaker 9: beat Tennessee by fourteen points. He'd throw the ball and

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Speaker 9: he'd be getting hammered by the media.

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Speaker 2: He didn't play well enough.

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Speaker 9: So I think this will be the player with the

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Speaker 9: highest expectations in the last decade. I put it at

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Speaker 9: the Tebow level, where is anything going to be good

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Speaker 9: enough other than a perfect game? And he plays in

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Speaker 9: the SEC. He's going to face SEC defenses each week.

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Speaker 9: He's placing the play the ouse state buckets early. I

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Speaker 9: think he's a tremendous talent.

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Speaker 2: But Sark, I'm.

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Speaker 9: Glad he's got a head coach like Sark that knows

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Speaker 9: how to handle pressure like this, because the pressure on

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Speaker 9: him will be immense, and it's going to be pressure.

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Speaker 9: I think it's we have. It's just kind of pressure

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Speaker 9: on a player. I'm saying since Tim Tebow's senior year

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Speaker 9: at the University of Florida, it was it was NonStop,

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Speaker 9: even win to get We went twelve and zero his

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Speaker 9: senior year and nothing was good enough. And I worry

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Speaker 9: about that. That wears on you, that wears on the staff.

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Speaker 9: But it most importantly it's going to wear an arch manning.

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Speaker 1: So I did a national championship bubble yesterday I think

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Speaker 1: there's five to six teams. Yeah, okay, So here I

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Speaker 1: have Clemson, Bama, Notre Dame. I don't know if Clemson

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Speaker 1: has the athletes they I don't know if they match

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Speaker 1: up with Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Penn State. I just

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Speaker 1: don't know if they do. But I like their coaching.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback Bama Notre Dame. I have to watch them play

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Speaker 1: because I don't know what they are at quarterback at

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Speaker 1: Bama's playing a guy who hasn't played he's been there

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Speaker 1: three years. But there are five teams that I believe

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Speaker 1: look different. I love the staffs. I just they're different

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Speaker 1: to me, Like the backfield for Penn State is just different.

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Speaker 1: It's all NFL guys. Anything you disagree with.

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Speaker 9: Here, No, I'm would probably throw one other team on

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Speaker 9: the bubble, though, I would throw that LSU team on

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Speaker 9: the bubble. You know, I think coach Kelly is a

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Speaker 9: heck of a coach, and they got a returning quarterback

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Speaker 9: that I think is a stud. So I would throw

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Speaker 9: one more out there, and LSU is never going to

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Speaker 9: be short. They were the one team, and I know

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Speaker 9: you can't just stereo type of team. They were the

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Speaker 9: one team when I coached the SEC them and Georgia

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Speaker 9: came walking out of that tunnel. They look different, and

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Speaker 9: that stadium is a tough place to play, so I

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Speaker 9: like it. Thought I'd like your tough five, but I'd

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Speaker 9: throw one more bubble team in there, and that's.

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Speaker 1: Lsu urban Meyer, three time national champion coach, is always

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Speaker 1: you're making time for us and we love that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Good to see Helen.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you urban Meyer on our show, which

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Speaker 1: is you know, Fox Sports College Football hind Big Noon,

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Speaker 1: Big Noon. Things happen on that show from what I

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Speaker 1: From what I hear, I read a lot and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. There's a lot of moving parts

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Speaker 1: on that show. I'm not going to get into it,

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Speaker 1: but now nurse things moving there. The wheel is spinning there,

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Speaker 1: that's what I hear. May want to pull up a

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Speaker 1: stool and sit down and read about it.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays

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Speaker 3: and Noon Easter nin a em Pacific.

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Speaker 1: All right. Our three, we finally had Dana White. He's busy,

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Speaker 1: he's in New Orleans. UFC three eighteen. That's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a great card, highlighted by one of those classic fights.

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Speaker 1: Can remember when McGregor and Nate Diaz would meet two

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Speaker 1: and three times and you're like, Saturday, you knew what

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Speaker 1: you were going to be doing. And I think we

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Speaker 1: got Dustin Foier, wh who's one of the all time

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Speaker 1: most likable fighters, most interesting, most entertaining against Max Holloway.

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Speaker 1: There meeting for a third time. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: waste Jana White's time. He's the CEO in the UFC

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Speaker 1: President He is joining us live from New Orleans, and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate his busy guy. So what's interesting in the

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Speaker 1: history of UFC. The best fighters I've ever seen are

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Speaker 1: John Jones, who was unbelievable in his prime, and I

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Speaker 1: think Kabebe who made even con McGregor look completely upmatched.

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Speaker 1: But Dustin Pourrier, who fights Holloway tomorrow, is one of

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Speaker 1: the more entertaining, likable, interesting guys. He's on that second

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Speaker 1: tier of guys that when he fights, I have to watch.

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Speaker 1: Did you envision him when you found him being this great,

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Speaker 1: this captivating for this long Dana.

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Speaker 2: Which who Max and Dustin?

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, yeah, well you never know, you never

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Speaker 6: know obviously, Uh you know, when he first faced Connor,

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Speaker 6: they were really uh early in their careers and and

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Speaker 6: Connor won that fight. Uh, And you never know how

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Speaker 6: a guy is going to bounce back from a loss.

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Speaker 6: But if you look at Poorier's last eleven fights, I

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Speaker 6: mean it's it's all been straight killers, and seven of

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Speaker 6: them are former world champions. So he's absolutely uh a

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Speaker 6: very special fighter, as is Max Holloway, which is what

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Speaker 6: makes this fight so intriguing.

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Speaker 1: And the history of the UF seen nobody's landed more

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Speaker 1: strikes than Holloway and the poreel sit in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the ring and throw blows. Is you know what's

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Speaker 1: interesting about your sport? And I was talking to a

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Speaker 1: member of the staff. When Caitlin Clark came to the WNBA,

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Speaker 1: they weren't prepared for it. They weren't well run, they

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Speaker 1: weren't well organized. She's overwhelmed them. The officiating's bad. You

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Speaker 1: got you and the Fertita has run a great sport.

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Speaker 1: So when Connor McGregor arrived, you were prepared for it.

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Speaker 1: But like Caitlin Clark, he was so damn popular, so fast,

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Speaker 1: and I want you to talk about that. You have

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Speaker 1: not only been on the ground floor, but you had

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Speaker 1: your Caitlin Clark. You had a superstar emerge that was

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Speaker 1: literally the most viral human being in American sports. So

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Speaker 1: as the WNBA is struggling with Caitlin, go back to

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Speaker 1: the Connor days of what it's like to run a

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Speaker 1: sport and here comes a superstar, a Taylor Swift into

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Speaker 1: your lap. Do you remember? Was it great that it

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Speaker 1: create anxiety? And he take us back to that time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: No, I mean the first time that I ever sat

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Speaker 6: down and had dinner with Connor McGregor in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 6: He flew out from Ireland and I left the dinner

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Speaker 6: and I called Lorenzo for Tita, and I said, let

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Speaker 6: me tell you what. I don't know if this guy

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Speaker 6: can fight or not, but if you can even throw

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Speaker 6: a punch, he's going to be a huge superstar front

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Speaker 6: And obviously, you know, we leaned into that, and you're right, listen, Caitlin.

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Speaker 2: Clark is a massive superstar. I'm a fan.

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Speaker 6: So all the stuff that I got going on right now,

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Speaker 6: I actually had my assistant look to see when I

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Speaker 6: have season tickets to the Aces, so I had them

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Speaker 6: find out, you know, when she was coming to town,

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Speaker 6: and I'm clear on my schedule so I can go

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Speaker 6: to that game and watch her play live.

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Speaker 2: I agree with what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you are apparently I just read this the

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Speaker 1: other day and this made news. Are going to have

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Speaker 1: a card at the White House. So you've gone to

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Speaker 1: an island, you travel around the country, Now you're going

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Speaker 1: to have something at the White House. Obviously, I mean

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Speaker 1: they're security and all these things. Were you shocked when

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Speaker 1: that was offered to you or did you know that

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Speaker 1: was coming?

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Speaker 2: I did not know was coming. Yeah, but when he

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Speaker 2: offered it up, I was like, oh yeah, I'm all

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Speaker 2: in on this.

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Speaker 6: So we've already sent a logistics team out there that

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Speaker 6: have walked the White House. There's calls going back and

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Speaker 6: forth every day between Craig We're sorry and my head

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Speaker 6: of production and the White House. And then we will

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Speaker 6: have all these renderings done within the next ten days

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Speaker 6: and where to fly out and sit down and walk

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Speaker 6: them through it and see what he wants and what

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Speaker 1: So you're also getting involved in boxing with Canelo and Crawford.

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Speaker 1: So you and I have talked about this. We both

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Speaker 1: grew up boxing fans. I grew up with Mohammad Alian Fraser.

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Speaker 1: I grew up with Sugar Anne Hearns and Hagler you

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Speaker 1: did too as a Boston guy, and then you're part

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Speaker 1: of UFC. I prefer UFC. I think it's more consistent.

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Speaker 1: I think the quality the women's division. But I still

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Speaker 1: have a soft spot for a great boxing match. I

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Speaker 1: saw Paquial fight six times. So as you go into boxing,

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Speaker 1: why did you choose to do it?

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Speaker 6: You know, I've been talking about it for a long time.

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Speaker 6: You know, I've had a lot of criticism of boxing

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Speaker 6: over the years, and now here I am. It's time

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Speaker 6: to put my money where my mouth is and tickets

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Speaker 6: go on sale today. Actually for Canelo Crawford Legion Stadium

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Speaker 6: September thirteenth. Tickets on sale today. You know, for me

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Speaker 6: to be able to my first boxing match that I'm

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Speaker 6: going to promote other than McGregor Mayweather is Canelo versus Crawford,

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Speaker 6: you know, two of the greatest fighters of our era

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Speaker 6: and in a big, massive fight in a stadium in

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Speaker 6: Las Vegas. I mean, this whole thing just sort of

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Speaker 6: fell in my lap. I have other plans in twenty

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Speaker 6: six and what I'm going to do with boxing, but

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Speaker 6: this fight here, Yeah, this this just sort of happened

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Speaker 6: Shake Turkey and I ended up doing this deal for

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Speaker 6: me to promote this fight.

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Speaker 1: So Max Holloway and Dustin Poorier tomorrow. One of the

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Speaker 1: hard things for you, even a Nick Connins WWE, although

650
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Speaker 1: USC is different obviously, is finding your next star. Now,

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, you have a draft, you have seven

652
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Speaker 1: rounds of draft. They come to you. But in your world,

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Speaker 1: where do you find Take me behind the scenes on

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Speaker 1: the standard, where do you find your next Dustin Poier?

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Speaker 1: Where do you find your stars? Are you flying around

656
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Speaker 1: the globe to find Do you have a team of

657
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Speaker 1: people that do that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 6: I have matchmakers that are always looking for up and

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Speaker 6: coming talent.

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Speaker 2: But where it really comes from? Right now?

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Speaker 6: We do a show called Data White's Contender Series, Yes,

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Speaker 6: starts in August, and the best unsigned fighters in the

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Speaker 6: world fight each other on this show to see who

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Speaker 6: warns a contract. And it's been unbelievable for creating talent.

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Speaker 6: We've already had three world champions come off that show.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, that's that's really where it is right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, UFC three to eighteen, Halloway Pooria tomorrow the Smoothie

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Speaker 1: King Center in New Orleans is great, by the way,

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Speaker 1: it's a great, great venue. It's going to be wild

671
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Speaker 1: because Potier is actually from there. Holloway's from the Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: Before I let you go forever, there was this stupid

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Speaker 1: stigma about you can't have pro teams in Vegas, and

674
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Speaker 1: you know, it was ridiculous. I mean, it just apps.

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Speaker 1: I mean, nobody monitors sports gambling like Vegas. They don't

676
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Speaker 1: want games thrown. So now you've got hockey, UFC, You've

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Speaker 1: got a baseball coming, You've got the Raiders. For people

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Speaker 1: that haven't been to Vegas in a while, are you

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Speaker 1: surprised how willing over the last five years pro sports

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Speaker 1: have been. I mean, you were the first in that,

681
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Speaker 1: really you you because boxing was all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that people have finally embraced Vegas over

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Speaker 1: the last half decade.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it was the gambling issue. I think

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Speaker 6: that you know, they were so stuck on the gambling issue.

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Speaker 6: I'm stacking over. You could tell if you grew up

687
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Speaker 6: in Vegas. When you think about the un LV running Rebels,

688
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Speaker 6: they were like the pro team when I was a kid,

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Speaker 6: and they were so well supported and uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: financially and people buying tickets, and the list goes on

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Speaker 6: and on. I knew that. Listen, if you're going to

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Speaker 6: go to an away game for your team anytime during

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Speaker 6: the year, which one are you gonna pick? You're definitely

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Speaker 6: going to Vegas. It's it's a no brainer. You go

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Speaker 6: in there. You have an unbelievable weekend, tons of hotels,

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Speaker 6: the greatest restaurants in the world, the best shopping, There's

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Speaker 6: always something to do, and it's just a noble I mean,

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Speaker 6: there are so many sports. Do you There's gonna be

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Speaker 6: a ping pong league there pretty soon. Vegas is the

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Speaker 6: sports capital of the world right.

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Speaker 1: Now, dustin Porri before we go. When but a boxer

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Speaker 1: gets older, and do they say to you, hey, Dana,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be my last fight. Do you approach

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Speaker 1: them sometimes and go, you know what, man, we care

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Speaker 1: about your health. We care about you as a guy.

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Speaker 1: When you get a poorier who's still very good, how

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Speaker 1: who makes the decision?

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Speaker 4: Dana?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Do you ever lead that and say? Gay guy?

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Speaker 1: I think he had about two fights left.

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Speaker 2: Well, poorier in Holloway are ranked number four and number

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Speaker 2: five in.

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Speaker 6: The world and the nastiest division in the sport, so

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Speaker 6: you know, it's not like they're they're on this huge

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Speaker 6: decline or anything like that. And you know, Fourier was

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Speaker 6: the one that said I think I'm ready to retire,

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Speaker 6: and he wanted to do it here, you know, in

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Speaker 6: his home state. And think about this highest grossing event

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Speaker 6: in arena history tonight over seven or Saturday Night and

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Speaker 6: over seventeen thousand in attendance. So still a huge superstar, still,

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Speaker 6: you know, on top of his game, and a legitimate

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Speaker 6: badass fight for his last fight, you know, his retirement fight.

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Speaker 6: So now there's stuff I would never go to a

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Speaker 6: guy like poor and say, hey, you should think about,

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Speaker 6: you know, retiring. There have been guys, but it's usually

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Speaker 6: guys that are on a skid and don't want to

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Speaker 6: retire it. Those are usually the ones that I say,

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Speaker 6: you know, you should probably hang it up.

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Speaker 1: So I'm buying it tomorrow. Max Holloway, Dustin Poier, UFC

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Speaker 1: three eighteen, Danny, you're a busy guy. I always appreciate

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Speaker 1: you stopping buying giving the Herd ten minutes