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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Chris Mann e Sports Illustrated NBA senior Ryder

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Speaker 1: joining us from Phoenix. He was in attendance for last

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Speaker 1: night's game between the Clippers in the Suns. Which your

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Speaker 1: big takeaway from last night there, Chris, You know, just

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Speaker 1: the resiliency of the Clippers. I mean we've seen it

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Speaker 1: throughout these playoffs, going down to Zip in both the

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Speaker 1: first and second round. But you know, this comeback and

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Speaker 1: win in this game was maybe even more impressive to be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they learned about the injury and well the

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Speaker 1: extent of the injury to Zoobach at the morning shoot around,

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Speaker 1: and to already down you know, Sergibaka, Kawhi Leonard and

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Speaker 1: now being down your best big man, going up against

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Speaker 1: a big, physical team with a guy like DeAndre eight

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Speaker 1: and to still be able to not only rally and win.

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Speaker 1: But they came out fast, Dan, I mean, they were

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Speaker 1: up twenty to five early in this game. They had

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Speaker 1: multiple opportunities in the second half to fold. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Clippers have this this this this history of not

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Speaker 1: showing up in big moments, that history, regardless of what

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Speaker 1: happens in this series I think has been, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: largely erased because of the performance of this team. But

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Speaker 1: you try to handicap this series. I wasn't surprised, said,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if the Clippers won last night,

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Speaker 1: because why not. Now they go back home where you

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Speaker 1: would expect the Clippers to win. So what do you

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Speaker 1: expect here in game six? You know, I have I

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Speaker 1: have no idea. You know, there's no there's an argument

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Speaker 1: to be made that you know, this was kind of

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Speaker 1: the Clippers shooting their shot here, This was everything they

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Speaker 1: had left in the tank. I mean, Paul George, look

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Speaker 1: at the minutes Paul George has played in this post.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like seven thirty five, which is like

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty more than anybody else in these playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, sitting in the interview room after the game,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he looked exhausted. Marcus Morris, who has battled

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Speaker 1: one minutes largely against DeAndre Ayton. He looked exhausted. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's only so many you know, proverbial bullets they have

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Speaker 1: sure they'll get a bounce off that home crowd. And

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Speaker 1: you know, one thing these these Clippers players said last

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Speaker 1: night to a man was that you know, they knew

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Speaker 1: they were down three one, but you know they looked

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Speaker 1: at it like a couple of breaks here or there,

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Speaker 1: the value oop, you know, better offense. In game four,

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Speaker 1: they could have been up three one in this series.

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Speaker 1: So they've got a little bit of confidence. But at

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Speaker 1: some point, all these injuries start to take their toll.

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Speaker 1: And if Zoobach can't go in this game six, I

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Speaker 1: just have a hard time seeing Aden struggle as much

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Speaker 1: as he did and the Sons play as poorly defensively

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Speaker 1: as they did. What is Kawhi leonard status. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: expect to see him in these playoffs, no matter if

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Speaker 1: he goes Game seven. I don't believe it. There's I

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Speaker 1: have not heard any indications. And Kauai, as we all know,

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Speaker 1: plays everything kind of close to the chest. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you get kind of you talk to Clippers personnel, um

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Speaker 1: via text message, you just don't don't get You don't

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Speaker 1: get positive indications that Kauhi is coming back. I don't

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Speaker 1: know the full extent of that injury if it is

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Speaker 1: something that may require surgery down the line, But there

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Speaker 1: are no indications yet that Kauai is you know, and

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Speaker 1: return his imminence. But is this an injury that is

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Speaker 1: going to stay with him or a condition that is

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Speaker 1: going to stay with him the rest of his career. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to say. With this injury specifically, now he

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Speaker 1: has had that knee problem that has need to be

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Speaker 1: I forget how old he is, right around thirty at

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Speaker 1: this point, but so I don't expect that to change

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Speaker 1: anytime soon. So the course of an eighty two games season,

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Speaker 1: we're going to see Kawhi at most play sixty sixty

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Speaker 1: five games for the rest of his career. This injury

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Speaker 1: felt a little bit different. This was one of those yeah,

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Speaker 1: an acl injury that requires some type of surgery. But

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Speaker 1: there's the day of Kawhi Leonard Dan playing eighty games

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Speaker 1: in a season. Those days are long stance over gosh,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember those days. When when's the last time

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Speaker 1: he was ever closed to that? Twenty twelve, maybe twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 1: him almost a full season, that last full season with

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Speaker 1: the world. I mean, Toronto won a championship with Kawhi,

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Speaker 1: you know, being load managed throughout. I think the Clippers,

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Speaker 1: you know, you could argue if Kawhi Leonard was healthy, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, they'd be the favorites to win the championship

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Speaker 1: this year. There's there's a pathway for them to win

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Speaker 1: or any team that has Kawhilan to win. With him

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Speaker 1: being load managed, it's just kind of a factive life

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Speaker 1: for him going forward. Have we been unfair We the

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Speaker 1: media been unfair to Paul George in our expectation level.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think social media probably has. But

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Speaker 1: social media's unfair to everybody. Social media mostly boxing fans

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Speaker 1: hate me, like so, I mean, it's like it doesn't

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Speaker 1: it is kind of what it is when it comes

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Speaker 1: to critiques. Now, I'm sure if Paul George could hop

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Speaker 1: in the time machine, he would go back and not

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Speaker 1: say what he said in that clip you played like

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Speaker 1: he would not call himself playoff Pe like that has

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Speaker 1: kind of stuck to him like White on Rice there,

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Speaker 1: to back early playoff exits in Oklahoma City, you blow

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Speaker 1: a three one lead with the Clippers, that is going

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Speaker 1: to be something you are tagged with for the rest

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Speaker 1: of his career. But when you're a superstar and you

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Speaker 1: don't win championships, I mean, Lebron James gets criticized stility,

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Speaker 1: He's won multiple championships. That that just kind of comes

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Speaker 1: with the territory when it comes to being a player

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Speaker 1: of that status. Yeah. PG thirteen we were okay with,

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Speaker 1: like that was a nice cute nickname, you know, but

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm struggling to think of the top of my head,

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Speaker 1: who else has given themselves nicknames, but usually like Shock

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Speaker 1: gave Paul Pierce the truth and that's stuck, and that

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Speaker 1: worked well for Paul Pierce over his career. If somebody

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Speaker 1: even if you don't live up to it, you didn't

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Speaker 1: give it to yourself, Like it wasn't you that's called

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Speaker 1: someone that lives up to those expectations. Well, Dion called

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Speaker 1: called that. I mean, if somebody calls you himself MVP,

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Speaker 1: you lived up to it. But if you're playoff p

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Speaker 1: this is the best postseason he's had since he's Indiana days,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe better because of the He's put in

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Speaker 1: thirty five percent going into that game five, and you

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Speaker 1: look at the first half and he was pretty passive,

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Speaker 1: and you could see kind of the critics start to

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Speaker 1: warm up. And I think even I wasn't listening to it,

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Speaker 1: but I had seen tweets about the broadcast. We're criticizing

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Speaker 1: Paul George for that first half, and then to come

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was a playoff p level

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Speaker 1: performance for Paul George. Talking to Chris Mannox, the Sports

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Speaker 1: Illustrated NBA senior writer, why do boxing fans hate you? Uh?

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Speaker 1: They think my scorecards suck. I do that for the

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Speaker 1: zone and uh, boxing is polarizing that everybody thinks they

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Speaker 1: they know exactly what they're talking about. It's it's probably

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Speaker 1: one of the worst sports for that. Okay, I'm just

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Speaker 1: I just what's there? Watch a big fight, watch a

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Speaker 1: big fight finitor on social media. It's it's interesting. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't do social media, That's true. PAULI does, though,

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Speaker 1: so Hill can you can text you? By the way

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Speaker 1: social media yesterday with Scottie Pippen. Were you monitoring social media?

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Speaker 1: I was. I saw the I saw mclovin's tweets first

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Speaker 1: interview with Scottie. I mean, I thought you did everything

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Speaker 1: just and I'm kind of paraphrasing here, but like, does

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Speaker 1: Scott needs of help? You know after this? You know

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Speaker 1: what what what's going through his mind right now? That

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Speaker 1: he's been upset about the Tony Kukoach play for decades now,

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Speaker 1: Phil Jackson is a racist in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: Players that have played for him have never charged him.

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Speaker 1: With that before. It's that that's an ugly thing to

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of dot connecting that Scotty was

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Speaker 1: The Damian Lillard situation in Portland. I can you clearly

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Speaker 1: like what is the situation? Because I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: he wants out? Is this passive aggressive? Is there something

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Speaker 1: if this is salvageable with Damian Lillard. I grow more

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Speaker 1: and more skeptical by the day, Dan that it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, I said this on my podcast this morning,

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Speaker 1: But like Damian Lillard is like the guy breaking up

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Speaker 1: And so when that's your priority, golf was absolutely secondary.

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Speaker 1: I was mad for you John the way you were

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Speaker 1: informed that it just wasn't fair to you. They could

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Speaker 1: do that privately. Did anybody ever apologize to you for that?

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Speaker 1: So the reasoning for that is because I had tested positive,

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Speaker 1: and people I believe in the broadcast knew or they

431
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: were about to find out, they didn't want me to

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Speaker 1: go ahead and shaking anybody's hand on the crowd or

433
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Speaker 1: interact with the crowd. Now being on the COVID tracing list,

434
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Speaker 1: I had really been mindful about not doing any of that.

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Speaker 1: And the only basically moment what I forgot was after

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Speaker 1: finished in the third round, I had played so good

437
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Speaker 1: that I completely forgot what I had been going through

438
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: and I shook my playing partner's hands. Now both of

439
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: them had had COVID, so I feel like he was okay.

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Speaker 1: But you know, they didn't want me to go on

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Speaker 1: the crowd, and at first I didn't want me to

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Speaker 1: go inside to side my scorecard. So it was a

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Speaker 1: bit of a confusing ad and that's why they told

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Speaker 1: me on the spot now knowing that as the second

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Speaker 1: time they put me in a vulnerable spot a national

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Speaker 1: TV on the same hall on the same tournament, well

447
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: it was it felt a little bit, you know, one

448
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: was more personal, but they did what they had to do.

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Speaker 1: And yes, the people in Charts did They told me

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Speaker 1: that it could have been handled better. But also, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm listening to Foundo and nance. They didn't know,

452
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Speaker 1: and they went, they ended their broadcast, and we saw

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Speaker 1: the emotion. Like I thought the worst. I thought something

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Speaker 1: had happened in your family. And yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: did react like it, I guess. Yeah, but at that

456
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Speaker 1: point and had played so good, and you know, knowing

457
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Speaker 1: that it was a possible, the fact that I had

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Speaker 1: to leave and and just everything combined the fact that

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Speaker 1: my parents were coming in Monday right after the tournament

460
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Speaker 1: and I hadn't seen him in a while, I think

461
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Speaker 1: a lot of emotions got mixed in there together, and

462
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Speaker 1: it was just upsetting because he didn't expect that to happen. Right,

463
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Speaker 1: I was the first one through all this to happen,

464
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Speaker 1: And I mean, it is what it is. And I

465
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Speaker 1: mean my wife didn't even know. Very few people know.

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Speaker 1: She thought something happened to my parents as well. So

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, I think in that sense is where things

468
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Speaker 1: that could have handled could have been hailed better. Go

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Speaker 1: back to the US Open and Phil Mickelson's on the

470
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Speaker 1: driving range, and I thought that was a cool moment

471
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Speaker 1: that Phil was just hanging there just with your family. Yeah,

472
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: he returned the favor. I've stayed. I've been fortunate to

473
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Speaker 1: be able to stay a few times to watch him win.

474
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Speaker 1: I did in Mexico. It out the PGA. You know,

475
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Speaker 1: he broke a pretty impressive record, and he came in

476
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Speaker 1: and took care of Kelly. You know, Kelly was, to say,

477
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Speaker 1: a nervous rank the least because he was he was

478
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Speaker 1: he was stressing and whole and the baby, and he

479
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: was helping her out. I mean, they brought some chairs

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Speaker 1: to the range. I don't even know where they got

481
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Speaker 1: the chairs for him, and he took care of her,

482
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Speaker 1: and he did an amazing job. You know that shows

483
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Speaker 1: what a quality man he has. What did you save

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Speaker 1: from the final round? Would I do? What? What did

485
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Speaker 1: you save? Like? Do you do you save anything from

486
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Speaker 1: the final round and keep it separate like your scorecard?

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Speaker 1: You get that? I don't know if I get that.

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Speaker 1: You don't get the scorecard. I have no idea. I

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Speaker 1: think the trophies enough, That's all I'm going to say.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, that is good. Yeah, I mean I

491
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Speaker 1: was looking for something for you to donate to the

492
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Speaker 1: man Cave here John, like your socks or shoes or something.

493
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Speaker 1: My shoes outfit, hat, glove, the USGA took it off

494
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Speaker 1: for them, you see him. What I can give you

495
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Speaker 1: is the Yardist book I used that week. I would

496
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Speaker 1: love that. Yeah, I do have that. That would have

497
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Speaker 1: That would be awesome. Concerns going to the British Open, None,

498
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Speaker 1: not really, I'm I'm not concerned about the tournament. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to a golf course where I

500
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: played links golf for the first time. That was about

501
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: twelve years ago. I think it was two thousand and nine,

502
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: and you know when I got my start on the

503
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Speaker 1: on the UK. So I would love to go back

504
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: and and UH as the latest champion and hopefully still

505
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: has number one in the world. So you know, I'm

506
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Speaker 1: excited to go, really really really eager. Yeah, and you

507
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: get to uh golf in a sweater. It's it's winter

508
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: time over there, isn't there You never know I know

509
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: the number one day it could be freezing the next day.

510
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean you do get to enjoy wearing

511
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Speaker 1: a sweater, which living in Arizona is something you miss.

512
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: I played golf in Ireland in March and it's snowed.

513
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: You can get everything in one day. I've seen rain, sunshine,

514
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Speaker 1: not snow, but I've seen hell win, no win. I

515
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: mean the weather. It's about this. I'm predictable as he gets.

516
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Speaker 1: The strangest weather you ever played in. Strangest, Yeah, toughest.

517
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Speaker 1: Uh got a cut all amateur events in Spain and

518
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Speaker 1: severe hailstorms. You know, when it's amateur events, you don't

519
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Speaker 1: have weather equipment, so you go out there and deal

520
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: with it. I have seen the lightning strike almost on

521
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Speaker 1: the golf course when we were junior players, and all

522
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Speaker 1: sorts of things, but so pro the crazy has happened

523
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Speaker 1: in Oakmon in twenty sixteen with him get to play

524
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Speaker 1: in it. But the storm that went through because they

525
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: got us the golf course just early map was about

526
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Speaker 1: as harsh as I've seen. Well, hopefully you'll get good

527
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Speaker 1: weather when you go over there. And congrats again, I

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Speaker 1: love the shirt. Congrats on being the number one player

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Speaker 1: in the world. And more importantly, you know you got

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Speaker 1: a baby there and there's nothing like that. Every single

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Speaker 1: morning walk in and see his face smiling. Can't have

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Speaker 1: a bad day, John, That's true, you can't have a

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Speaker 1: bad day. Thank you, Thank you, Bud. That's John rom

534
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Speaker 1: the US Open champ and the number one player in

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Speaker 1: the world. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine

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Speaker 1: until noon East six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at

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Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up everybody? It's me three time pro bowler Levarrington

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new

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Speaker 1: the co host of Sylvie and Waddle, the very popular

552
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Speaker 1: ESPN one thousand radio show in Chicago. In Sylvie us

553
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: on the program, when did you realize that what you

554
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Speaker 1: were going to talk about on Monday was going to

555
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Speaker 1: change after the interview with Scottie Pippen, Right after your

556
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Speaker 1: interview was done. You know, we obviously were on this.

557
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Speaker 1: As you joked yesterday, Dan, this is a gift to

558
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Speaker 1: Chicago sports radio, and so we thank you for that. Personally. Friday,

559
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: we were all over at too and the joke Wattle

560
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: has always said to me, you know, he's the former Bear.

561
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: He's lived here forever, so he's a Chicagoan, but he

562
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: doesn't get what we get for me as a sports fan,

563
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: and that I covered the last three Bulls Championships as

564
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Speaker 1: a reporter, young reporter down the dial, that I always

565
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Speaker 1: get worked up about Scottie. That a lot of the

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Speaker 1: times I've defended Scottie, I have fought for years on

567
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Speaker 1: ESPN one thousand about Scottie getting his due, that Scotty

568
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: not being just the top fifty player, but being the

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Speaker 1: top thirty player, Scotty being a revolutionary player. And then

570
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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, I felt like a scorned lover.

571
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Speaker 1: And I really it's really broken my heart regarding all

572
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Speaker 1: the bitterness that he has shown, and your interview just

573
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: took it to this whole new level that GQ couldn't go,

574
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: especially with the way he was talking to you. But

575
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Speaker 1: he believes what he's saying, but nobody believes him right right,

576
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Speaker 1: And it's kind of like a buddy Dan. We all

577
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Speaker 1: have him, we all know him that he says, Oh,

578
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Speaker 1: this person in my life sucks, this person in my

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Speaker 1: life is not loyal, this person in my life isn't

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Speaker 1: good for business. Well maybe if you've got all these

581
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Speaker 1: people who are bad, maybe it's you. Maybe you need

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Speaker 1: to look in the mirror. And I've always found it interesting.

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Speaker 1: We know he hated Kraus, hated Kraus, They didn't love

584
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Speaker 1: Jerry ryans Or as the owner, and he was the

585
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Speaker 1: guy who signed the checks. But we always thought they'd

586
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Speaker 1: a bond with Michael and Scottie and Phil, and that

587
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: they were loyal together, even if it was just with

588
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: a common denominator of disliking management. But now Scottie thinks

589
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: that Michael's selfish and that Phil was a racist who's

590
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: left standing and maybe it's Scotti that's the issue here,

591
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: and I think it's sad. I really like he wants

592
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: to sell bourbon and he wants to sell books, But

593
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Speaker 1: I just don't think that's a reason to go and

594
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Speaker 1: ruin the relationships of one of the greatest teams of

595
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: all time. Yeah. I was just trying to understand the

596
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Speaker 1: logic of all of this, and I couldn't help but

597
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: go back to April. Last April, Sylvie, and if that

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Speaker 1: documentary doesn't come out, is Scottie Pippen saying what he's

599
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Speaker 1: saying this week? It's funny because we had a We

600
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Speaker 1: had a great relationship with Jason Hair, the director, and

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Speaker 1: I know he reached out to Waddle yesterday. They knew

602
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: each other from BC. Jason the director was a BC ballboy,

603
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: so he knew Waddle when he was a player. And

604
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Speaker 1: I think he felt a little guilty it the way

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Speaker 1: Scottie came across. And my whole rationale has been the

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Speaker 1: documentary didn't make Scotty look that way. Scotty made himself

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Speaker 1: look that way, just like Scotti made himself look that

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Speaker 1: way yesterday. There are so many great things in Scottie

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Speaker 1: Pippen's career, and I think unlike others from the nineties Dan,

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Speaker 1: where you see this new way of playing basketball. I

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Speaker 1: think the appreciation has grown for Scottie through the years

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Speaker 1: that we realized, Wow, this guy was the first. This

613
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Speaker 1: guy is exactly the way the modern day basketball player was.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think it's just an excuse going

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Speaker 1: back to the documentary and this whole notion that Michael

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Speaker 1: commissioned it, and Michael got the documentary, he watted. I'm

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Speaker 1: a Michael fan. I covered Michael. I think after watching

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Speaker 1: all the episodes, we come away saying, boy, Michael was

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Speaker 1: kind of a bully. Michael could have been a big jerk.

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Speaker 1: Michael a lot of times was in it for Michael.

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Speaker 1: We still look at him highly. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: that the documentary was a fluff piece to Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: What was your show like yesterday with local reaction? You know,

624
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Speaker 1: it's it's full phones. Everyone wants to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have we have a hot baseball in town.

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Speaker 1: The socks are good, the Cubs are good. We got

627
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Speaker 1: a justin fields. Finally, maybe you'll have me on to

628
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Speaker 1: talk about a quarterback that's good. Finally in Chicago, um,

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Speaker 1: but but yeah, I mean this is and like I

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Speaker 1: reached out to Wilbon yesterday because I think he feels

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Speaker 1: like me, and he said, obviously being in Phoenix, it's

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00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't resonate in Phoenix, but in Chicago. Just like

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Speaker 1: a year ago, Dan, when we're sitting in the pandemic

634
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Speaker 1: and we're rehashing arguments that are twenty two years old

635
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Speaker 1: or twenty five years old, we're doing the same thing

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Speaker 1: a year later in twenty twenty one. It's amazing and

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Speaker 1: it's sad. I mean again, like the eighty five Bears,

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Speaker 1: Buddy Ryan and Mike Ditka hated each other, and now

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Speaker 1: maybe we're finding out that one of the greatest all

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Speaker 1: time American sports teams all hated each other. But you're

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Speaker 1: messing with a brand. That's what Scottie's doing. You're you're

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Speaker 1: you're messing with a scrapbook for people. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what probably bothers fans is, No, we choose to

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Speaker 1: remember this team these moments like this. You don't you

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Speaker 1: don't you know, don't disrupt this. You know, Now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden we're looking in you know, Michael is

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Speaker 1: orchestrating Steve Kerr's last second shot against Utah, and Phil

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Speaker 1: wanted Tony in there because he's white to take the shot.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's a lot. That's a lot unpack. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot to unpack. And I couldn't believe like the

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Speaker 1: Phil stuff, and they fought or fill. All they did

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Speaker 1: was fight for fill. And now twenty plus years later

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Speaker 1: you're coming out. But the cur stuff, Dan, the cur stuff,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how you orchestrate something. All that is

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Speaker 1: his game planning, you know what. Orchestrating a play, whether

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Speaker 1: it's for the cameras or not. You orchestrated a way

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Speaker 1: to clinch your championship by finding Steve Kerr for the

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Speaker 1: open shot. So it wasn't about making Michael look good.

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Speaker 1: It was about winning that fifth title at that time

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Speaker 1: and setting Steve Kerr up for the best shot, whether

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Speaker 1: or not you know, he was playing to the cameras

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. Look, we all know athletes, they

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Speaker 1: even say it when they get miked up. Sometimes miked

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Speaker 1: up athletes are a little more outgoing. Or we'll play

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Speaker 1: to the cameras. Brady's done it, Russell Wilson's done it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe with playing it up a little bit more. But

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Speaker 1: what did it lead to? It led to a championship

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Speaker 1: clinching shot that wasn't his, And I don't know why

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Speaker 1: Scottie could ever argue with that. Did anybody have a

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Speaker 1: problem with John Paxson shaking a shot against the Phoenix Suns?

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Speaker 1: I mean, now I go back and I start to

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Speaker 1: do inventory here, like, wait, who took the last shot? Oh?

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Speaker 1: John Paxson, he's white. I mean crazy, it's crazy. And Dan,

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Speaker 1: there's like to the point about the documentary and whether

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Speaker 1: it was orchestrated. There's a very famous moment from the

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Speaker 1: Bulls Championship ninety one video, the first championship against the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: I'm a nerd like this. I watched this video like

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Speaker 1: a hundred times in college. And Phil turns to Michael

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. He goes Michael, who's open? And

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Speaker 1: Michael didn't answer. Then he repeated himself, Michael, Who's open.

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Speaker 1: He goes Packs and he goes give the ball to Packs,

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Speaker 1: and Packs ended up scoring ten or twelve points in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to clinch Game five. They win their

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Speaker 1: first championships. So you know, I'm all four orchestrating championships.

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Speaker 1: I think we could all use more of those. How's

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Speaker 1: your quarterback situation there, Sylvie? I love it. Finally, I

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Speaker 1: think I maybe have a quarterback that we can all

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Speaker 1: love together. Like Cutler, Pippin is similar to Cutler. They're both.

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Speaker 1: They're both is polarizing as they come. So Jay, if

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Speaker 1: you go in Chicago and you ask a hundred people

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Speaker 1: did you love Cutler? Did you hate Cutler? You're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a fifty fifty split. Another one of these sports

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Speaker 1: radio things that if we open up, the phone lines

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Speaker 1: would go crazy. The only problem I have with Matt

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Speaker 1: Maggie is he's not giving the opportunity of Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: to win the job. I didn't like that he said, no,

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields has no chance. I get it, it's hard

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Speaker 1: and maybe he can't win the job right away, and

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Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton is better from the start. But give

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Speaker 1: the kid a chance to win it. And I think

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Speaker 1: you're limiting yourself by saying he can't win the job.

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Speaker 1: Glad you're doing better. My best to waddle there, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. You got it, Dan, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me appreciate you. You're welcome for yesterday. Thank you again.

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Speaker 1: We've always appreciated it. The gift. Yes, that's Mark, Silverman,

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Speaker 1: Sylvie and Waddle ESPN one thousand in Chicago,