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Speaker 1: which is cult classic peak late nineties. Rose McGowan, Oh, honey,

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Speaker 1: Darren Ruz. The last time I saw you, we were

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Speaker 2: Well, I feel like you're a lad. I do love

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Speaker 2: But because how's a goat? How's a ghost different than

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on and off for a month at night, these

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Speaker 2: He's like he had me. It was very extorousist to

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Speaker 2: It was right outside the store.

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Speaker 2: Like I remember seeing the Extressist, I'm a Jew. I'm

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Speaker 2: like oh see that store across the street that he's like, yeah.

431
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: I was like, if lives there. I went in there

432
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: and evil spirit followed me home and I won't go

433
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,239
Speaker 2: in there again. And he's like, well, I'll go in there.

434
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, no, no, don't go on, please, don't

435
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 2: go in.

436
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: I go.

437
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: I don't want you to sit parent. I don't want

438
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: you know you're out with uncle Darreen. I don't want

439
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 2: you know, me losing you inside that inside of that house,

440
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: that store, you might not come out. So of course,

441
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: my I do have that side of me that kind

442
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 2: of likes to play pranks and stuff. And he's like, well,

443
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go in. I'm like, okay, but if you

444
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: don't come out, it's not my fall, and like don't

445
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: tell your dad and blah blah blah. And he so

446
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: like he went in and to prove that I was wrong,

447
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, don't go to the back,

448
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: don't go all the way into the back, just stay

449
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: in the front. And of course he walked right to

450
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: the back and then walked right out and goes, see,

451
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm still alive.

452
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: Oh I wish I had an ounce of that isn't

453
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: that cool? I can't. This is so funny that you

454
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: were talking about because I didn't realize your story was

455
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: about this kind of a thing because I'm kind of

456
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: obsessed with thrifting and you know the history of things.

457
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: We've had people on the show talk about how, you know,

458
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: so many items have attached you know, some kind of

459
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: entity or I guess human spirit attached to them. And

460
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm the thrifting queen. Honey, everything I own is from

461
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: a thrill story.

462
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: Honey. All that shit has you know, connections.

463
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: Has a history. Who knows where it came from.

464
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: I used to go to Rose Bowl, Santa Monica, Long

465
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: Beach flea Market. I love all that stuff. And certain

466
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: things do have you know, ghosts with them.

467
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: Okay, well, you should listen to the very first preview

468
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: episode of the show where I talk about the Oueji

469
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: board I bought at a goodwill.

470
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: I won't go near one.

471
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: Well, I'll learned my lasson. But that's so funny. Actually,

472
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: I spent last night looking up doll haunted dolls on

473
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: eBay because I know that that's like totally a thing,

474
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: and people straight up like will put these they'll have

475
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: the whole backstory of who the who the doll was

476
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: and the spirit that's attached to it, and I'll share

477
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: it in the intro of the show. I'll look up

478
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: some and I love the people.

479
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: I love that. No, And I used to, you know,

480
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: the more haunted the better. When I was in my twenties,

481
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: I was drawn to that. I brought home like this

482
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: gypsy you know, face that looked very dark.

483
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

484
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: It was sort of a plastic plaster gypsy sort of

485
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: face with like lipstick on and beautiful earrings. It must

486
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,239
Speaker 2: have been like part of a display or something like

487
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: maybe it was on a you know, read your fortune

488
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: booth or what have you. But it was twenty bucks

489
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: and it was just something I had in my wall.

490
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: And now you know, I'm very cognizant of what I

491
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: have in my house and display it and hanging and stuff.

492
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, even the people you have in there. You

493
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: don't know if somebody's got something.

494
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: Attached to that, Honey Jesus, you know, yeah, sage that place.

495
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: I know, Okay, I also know that you've had some

496
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: other things happen in your family.

497
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: Oh my mom, when she was a little girl, she

498
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 2: had epilepsy. She had grandma epilepsy, which is a really

499
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: dangerous form. You know. She had to take grand grands

500
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: called grand ma grand mall means big bad in French.

501
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: Literally it could kill you. And she was on pheno

502
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: barbaratol for it, you know. And when she was seven

503
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 2: or eight, she had such a huge epileptic fit. She

504
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 2: was pronounced dead for a few minutes and she came back.

505
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: They brought her back to life. But she said to

506
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: me about a few years ago, she goes, Darren, you know,

507
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: I had a psychic tell me that when I died

508
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: as little girl, the soul that I was born with

509
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: left my body in those minutes when I was dead,

510
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: and a walk on came in.

511
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 1: Stop.

512
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what a walk on is is a soul

513
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: that's sort of been just lingering and you know in

514
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: the air, you know, waiting to find a body to

515
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: come hijack onto earth understudy exactly all about here you go.

516
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 2: So like literally, so she feels and if your soul

517
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: is in pain in this incarnation wants to go and

518
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: to go, it'll go, you know what I mean. And

519
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: then the walk On's like, oh, cool body, I'm coming

520
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: in right. And then it came in so she feels like,

521
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: you know, she had to relearn how to play piano.

522
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: She had to relearn everything she had to because when

523
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: you're when you're young and you have that kind of

524
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: you die and come back, you have to relearn all

525
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: this stuff. But she's very different from her brother and

526
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: sisters because the soul is not who she was meant

527
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: to be at birth.

528
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: That's so crazy.

529
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: So I'm the son of a walk all.

530
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: A walk on. That's your next movie, you know, right,

531
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: that's so interesting. I guess I've never really heard about that,

532
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, that must be a thing.

533
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: It's creepy, It's fully creepy. Yeah, and she's a Capricorn.

534
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: Capricorn is a pretty witchy to begin with. And she's

535
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: you know, sort of like, you know, she's sort of

536
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: like has another worldly vibe in a cool way. I mean,

537
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: she's out there and it really in a really super

538
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, super interesting way.

539
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: But it makes you wonder, Yeah, because I feel like

540
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: people often think of our physical body as the same

541
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: thing as our soul, and it's it's it's not, it's

542
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: not We're just merely just a meat suit, a meat suit. Yeah,

543
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: bag of meat, bag of meat bag of bones.

544
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: Just you know, turn it to dust.

545
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: But you've always been a big horror guy, right, I have.

546
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: Even as a kid, I was super drawn to uh horror,

547
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: rocky horror, alien kiss. Even my music was horror like

548
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: kiss Alice Cooper, like you know, fangoria. I had a subscription,

549
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: like I just lived for it and my parents. And

550
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: luckily for me, my parents never really you know, like

551
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: judged it. They would let me do my thing or

552
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: to my alien chest burst r T shirt and stuff.

553
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: But when you were a little kid, were you somebody

554
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: that would want to go to like, let's go to

555
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: a spooky place, And.

556
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was super into it. I don't have the

557
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: fears that I have now as an adult. I was

558
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: much more sort of fearless as a kid. Yes, so

559
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: I would be drawn like bloody Mary, bloody Ray, bloody Mary.

560
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: I'd be in the bathroom in the dark, in the mirror,

561
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: saying that I hate that.

562
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like tell I was always too afraid

563
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: to do this.

564
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: I go in my closet. You know. I was the

565
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: one who would be like, oh, you guys, let's shot

566
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: off all the lights and scream or let's all let's

567
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: go in my closet. It's haunted, you know, if you

568
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: keep if you go to the back of my closet,

569
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: it is like another world. It's like the Lion the

570
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: Witch in the words.

571
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I would try that and

572
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: they'd go, we're not joining you in the closet. We

573
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: want you to come out of the closet. Honey, that's hilarious.

574
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: Would you ever see the Bloody Mary?

575
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: I think I might have seen something at some point. Yeah,

576
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: I was pretty you know. I also had a very

577
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: active you know, my parents dropped me off at a

578
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: double feature that they didn't fully event They thought it

579
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: was just Close Encounters to the Third kind, but it

580
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 2: was actually Close Encounters and The Manitou, which is a

581
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: really creepy exorcistrip off, but it's like Native American Indian.

582
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: It's like this woman grows this Native American spirit out

583
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: of the and she gives birtue out of her back.

584
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: Oh and it's the Manitou. Okay, And it's it's a

585
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: really it's really scary. It's like a B movie. But

586
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: as a kid, it really screwed me up and haunted me,

587
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: and I had a very you know, explicit nightmares. I

588
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: also peed in my bed till I was twelve, So

589
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: I think that might have been something about like horror

590
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: and fear.

591
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: Did you why don't you do more horror movies?

592
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna be doing. I have two coming out,

593
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: well actually three, what that I'm working on that all

594
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: have elements of horror in them. One well, one is

595
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: very near. I can't talk about that, but that would

596
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: be pretty much pure horror comedy, which is exciting. The

597
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: other one is kind of like a dark comedy, but

598
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: it has a horror It's it's called Kill a boy Band.

599
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: It's basically a Jawbreaker meets Hard Day's Night because fangirls

600
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: who accidentally kill well, they might have accidentally killed a

601
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: member of a boy band and have to get the

602
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: body out of the hotel, and the body goes through

603
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: lots of you know, it's in the pool, a top

604
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: of the roof. It's very macabre.

605
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: You wrote it.

606
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: I adapted if from Hawaii novel Oh cool. Yeah. And

607
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: then the other project is is a dark it's a

608
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: dark story about it. I mean, I mean, I mean

609
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: talking about it's crazy. It's basically a twelve year old

610
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: girl who thinks she's been made pregnant by her imaginary friend.

611
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: So it deals with sort of a spirit, an entity

612
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: that she thinks is present, you know, because imaginary friends

613
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: are what are those? When a kid has one.

614
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: That I know that scares me? Whatever it is anytime

615
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: you're around a child that's like, can we make food

616
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: for Susie? Who's Susie?

617
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? So it's about that, and it's of course gets

618
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: into the truly terrifying idea she could have been raved

619
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: but she raped? Was it a teacher, a student?

620
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Was it the therapist? Yeah?

621
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: And it's it deals in those and so it has

622
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: that definitely has horror elements while not being straight up horror,

623
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: but it's sometimes I mean, things that aren't straight up

624
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: horror are even scarier.

625
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I ghost hunting with a friend and we

626
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: were with some other ghost hunters, and my friend and

627
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: I both decided that we were more scared of the

628
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: people than the ghost. Honey, some of these people.

629
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

630
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: Hey, you do you want to listen to some ghost voice?

631
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: Yes? Please?

632
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: Okay, it is time for EVP or ev plicse. Do

633
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: you know what the EVP is?

634
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: What is it? You?

635
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: An e VP is electronic voice right, that's right, that's right,

636
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah. It's when people ghos hunters catch right. Okay, Now,

637
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: all of these e vps the person certainly found something,

638
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: but I want you to guess what the ghost hunter gets.

639
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: They you know, they claim they caught the ghost saying okay,

640
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: I found these on YouTube. This one is from Bob

641
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: and Joan st l m O. I think that's Saint Louis, Missouri.

642
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: This is at the Latham Hospital. Tell me what this

643
00:32:49,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: sounds like to you. I'll play it again. Were they.

644
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: That's hard to hear. It just sounds a little far away.

645
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: A female voice, definitely, you'll play it once more, though

646
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I have a female voice.

647
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: What do you think it is?

648
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'll give you some options. Is it a you?

649
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Violet?

650
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: It could be you know a fan of Violet Chatski

651
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: the Dragon?

652
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

653
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: Is it b you a cute guy? Maybe the ghost

654
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: hunter was cute?

655
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

656
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: See he will kill violent. That's a creepy one. Or

657
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: d do you like Robin you know the singer.

658
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: Made Oh yeah, I think I'm gonna go with the Robin.

659
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: No, it's actually a you okay, Violet? Huh, but I

660
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: think that it's he will kill, which sounds creepy.

661
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: Let me hear what's more. Oh, yeah, it's just scary.

662
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: It is scary whatever, I like it.

663
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just super creepy. Is that what the

664
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: sounds like? She's in another the world?

665
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: Is that the demon from your home? Is that what

666
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: they would?

667
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: They never articulated any words.

668
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: Are you okay?

669
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: I didn't get any of them that I just got,

670
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: you know, are you okay? I just got my heart being,

671
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: you know, exert exerted pressure on.

672
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: It's dangerous.

673
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: I know it scary.

674
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: I think about all the time people and I've talked

675
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: about on the show before when people just die all

676
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it could be a ghost. You don't know,

677
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: a ghost didn't spook them and they had a heart

678
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: attack or suicide, it could be the ghost like final destination.

679
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when I parked here coming in to

680
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: your studio.

681
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: Would you bring in here kind of dark energy?

682
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: No? The radio, I was. I got out of the

683
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 2: car and then the radio popped on out of the blue.

684
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: Never does that. I was like, of course I'm going

685
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: to see ros and talk about ghosts.

686
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Yep, And you just passed there.

687
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: Coming back I know, and Magnolia is I'm about to

688
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: go to Magnoli. It's actually work at a coffee house

689
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: there to do some writing. It was funny cause last

690
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: night you were do things like will you talk about someone?

691
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: And then the next day something you see that come

692
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: in like you conjure them. Like I was at Margaret

693
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: Chow's show last night and talking to some friends about

694
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: Friz of balk As you do, right, yeah, And the

695
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: next day today is her birthday. It's my friend like

696
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: texting me today on Instagram. I was like, oh my god,

697
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: it's a birthday. Isn't that witchy that we were talking

698
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: about her yesterday?

699
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: She has ghost stories. I want to I want to

700
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: get her in here.

701
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: Oh you have to so well, you know she she

702
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: used to own pan Pipes, the Witchcraft store on on Quanga.

703
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: Oh.

704
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: I didn't realize I lived in the Villa Carlado where

705
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: when Fruza lived there during the premiere of The Craft.

706
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: Wait what is the Villa.

707
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: Car It's a building on Franklin and Tamerond, across from

708
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: the Bourgeois Pig.

709
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: Wait. Wait, across some scienceology celebrity center.

710
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yes, back in the day, the Scienceology Celebrity Center

711
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: was a fancy hotel for really high end people. Villa

712
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: Carlotta was where all the drug drug addicts and prostitutes stayed.

713
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: It was like the low end one. So the Carlotta

714
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: is definitely haunted. I mean they've done I've actually done

715
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 2: a ghost, a ghost tour of the Carlata ones where

716
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: they brought on those EVPs and tried to measure stock

717
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: ghost activity.

718
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you lived in that building.

719
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: Yes, this the nineties when first it was there for

720
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: the premiere of the Craft. Circled the Craft because I

721
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: remember the night she went to the premiere. I was

722
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: like sort of like spying on it.

723
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: You're kidding?

724
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: No, is that wild?

725
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: That is so cool? Nineties it's so nice. And then

726
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: just a couple of years later Jawbreaker.

727
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: I know. But the funny thing about Jawbreaker is that

728
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: people I often hear and I heard it last night

729
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: that movie was scared me as a kid, or that

730
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: I got I was too young when I saw that,

731
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: it fucked me up or whatever. So that ghost to

732
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: show that something like Jawbreaker even can have a horror resonance.

733
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: Well, I mean seeing that big, huge Jawbreaker in her throat, Like,

734
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: that's a lot to take it and even like laughing.

735
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious. Ruse McGowan is like, carry she's yeah,

736
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: she's she kind of has like an evilness.

737
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: To her, Oh for sure. Oh they call her Satan

738
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: and Hills. Yeah, Jowbreakers essentially a foul story. He said

739
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: in high school. You know when Violet's making a deal

740
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: with the devil or Fern. Yeah, you know.

741
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: Well, because when that came out, I was nine years

742
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: of a child. Yeah, I was very young, and I

743
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: remember being obsessed with her because I was obsessed with

744
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: Scream and so I was obsessed with her. And then

745
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson as well, and so I mean Marilyn Manson

746
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: was huge for me as a little kid because he

747
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: was the one that everyone was like, that's the devil,

748
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: stay away from him. And I was like, he sounds cool.

749
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's cool.

750
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I got one more for you. This one. This

751
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: one comes from Doctor Freeze zero zero seven on YouTube.

752
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: It is at a location in Raymond, California. Doesn't say

753
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: much about the location, but it was captured. As it

754
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: was captured, there was a white mist that they also caught.

755
00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: But guess what this one says it's a little bit

756
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: deep roof of voice. I'll do it one more time.

757
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: That one's really scary, that a little bit more kind

758
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: of like get Out horror. Yes, yeah, it's definitely a demon.

759
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: Okay, let's guess.

760
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: Is it the choices.

761
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: A cheat out? You know, like when you're directing a

762
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: movie and the actors not looking at the camera. Cheat out?

763
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: Could be that. Now this was in Raymond, California? Is

764
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: it be everybody loves Raymond? Is it c get Out?

765
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: Which is already what you guessed. Maybe it was a

766
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Peel fan. Yeah, maybe they like.

767
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: That this is where Jordan got the inspiration.

768
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: Or is it d I Killed the Tan dream?

769
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, that's it.

770
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: It's get Out. Oh that is not something somewhere you

771
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: want to be well, speaking of get out with what

772
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: I have to now that you're here, I haven't had

773
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: anybody here yet with some demons attached.

774
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

775
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: First of all, my heart's palpitating.

776
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. All the darkness and you think

777
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 2: this is like the scariest, one of the scarier moments

778
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: for you.

779
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: When did this happen?

780
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: This was about a year ago. Yeah, still fresh two

781
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 2: years ago. Yeah, and it was scary. It was super scary.

782
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: Well, I'm my heart is palpitating. It has nothing to

783
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: do with this girl.

784
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: And it's black. I love how i'd say package is

785
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: a black? Is that the Halloween packaging? Or is it

786
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: always in a pitch back?

787
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Welcome to seven eleven?

788
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: That is gothic?

789
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: Wait what were you telling me about? There was a

790
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: bathtub story.

791
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the Villa Carlotta. It's a very old building

792
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: with lots of ghosts, like they should they edited I shot,

793
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: I mean not I Shoty Warhol. Paul Morrisey edited Andy

794
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: Warhol's Frankenstein there. I mean, g stuff.

795
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't know any what is that building now?

796
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: Now it's condos. It's all ready furbished. It's like there's

797
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: a valet. It's fancy. Becka.

798
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: I lived there.

799
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: One bedroom was eight hundred dollars or eight fifty and

800
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: it was beautiful, like high ceilings. It was the same

801
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: architectures the Chateau Marmont. I mean, it's beautiful, but they

802
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: shot like Smashing Pumpkins zero music video in the lobby.

803
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: The lobby was incredible, but lots of ghosts in that place.

804
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: And they said I had heard or I might have

805
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: made up. I don't know if, because once again I

806
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: am a imaginative writer type director or whatever. So like

807
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: I heard that like two lovers, female lovers, lesbians like

808
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: you know, died in my apartment that we were in

809
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: in the Villa Carlata, our apartment two o seven. But

810
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: once again I might have made that up. I was

811
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: in my twenties, you know. We had a good time. Yeah,

812
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 2: but when me and my ex moved out of there,

813
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: we gave it to our friends and an Anthony. It's

814
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: actually Anthony Russo who directed it at Adventures Endgame Cool.

815
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: And Anne was the goth girl and jawbreaker. She's been

816
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: in all my I always give her a part in

817
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: all my movies. She's the one who's like, you got

818
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: a still born, you know, when she sicks her nails.

819
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

820
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: So everyone likes to get an apartment in that building

821
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: because it's really hard to get into and it's a beautiful,

822
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: magical building, you know, and all that. So I said

823
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: to Anne, you know, do not whatever you do, don't

824
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: take a bath, you know. I was telling her, you know,

825
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: about the ins and outs of the of the apartment.

826
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 2: And she's like, what are you talking about?

827
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: Why?

828
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, because you know, these two lesbians

829
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: who lived here back in the twenties or thirties killed

830
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: each other in the bathtub, you know, slit the wrists

831
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: and bled to death in the bath and they didn't

832
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: find them, and over the water over flowed into the

833
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: lobby below. Blah blah blah. And I forgot and I

834
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: think I was telling I think it was a joke.

835
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: I was going to tell her I'm in this kidding

836
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But I forgot to tell her I

837
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: was kidding. And I guess in a few years she

838
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: lived there, she never took a bath. Oh no, And

839
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: she told me that recently. She's like, Darren, you never

840
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: told me, She goes, I never used the bath there,

841
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: because you've said those lesbians kill each other in it.

842
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: But there's a possibility that you didn't make it up.

843
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: You're right. Everything comes from somewhere, you know, in that building. Yeah,

844
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: for sure, I was living there.

845
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm obsessed with that building.

846
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 2: It's really wild. I mean you could research it online.

847
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: The Villa Carlata. Yeah, it has a storied. You know

848
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: who lived there when I was There also Lisa Marie

849
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: Presley's ex Danny Keo, oh you said dat back. He

850
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 2: had this very exotic wood carved Indian bed from India

851
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 2: that I me and my ex boyfriend bought from him.

852
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 2: Had it was like, you know, six feet off the ground,

853
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: you were you felt like you were a ladin on

854
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: this bed. It was like wood carved bed from India.

855
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: Oh cool, It was like a double. It was not

856
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: like the most comfortable thing, but you felt like you

857
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: were like, you know, in this exotic you know, sort

858
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: of like Arabian nights scenario.

859
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that actually. Note that reminds me of because

860
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: I did all this research last night when I was

861
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: looking up haunted items. Yeah, and tons of people said me,

862
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: this article about this thrift store. Did you buy a

863
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: chance to see this headline? There was a thrif store

864
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Speaker 1: that had haunted furniture and it was a big carved

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Speaker 1: in wood bed canopy situation. And it was in North

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Speaker 1: Carolina and this couple, this man and this woman bought

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Speaker 1: it for one thousand dollars and they reported that they

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Speaker 1: kept having continuous nightmares and their dogs, much like your dogs,

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Speaker 1: were barking at There was a dresser with it. It

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Speaker 1: was a dresser in a bed and the dogs would

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Speaker 1: not stop barking. So they returned it and the actual

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Speaker 1: thrill store, which is a Christian owned thrift store, they decided,

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Speaker 1: the officials of the store or whatever, decided to put

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Speaker 1: a warning on it that said, the previous owners have

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Speaker 1: reported that this is haunted, so be warned in a

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Speaker 1: thousand bucks. So I don't know. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: anyone bought it again, but if anyone wants it North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: look it up.

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Speaker 2: That's very I commend the people who put the sign up.

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Speaker 2: That's responsible and really caring. That's a nice well looking

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Speaker 2: at after their fellow human being.

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Speaker 1: Because somebody in our Facebook group was talking about how

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Speaker 1: actually here I would pull it up. It is from Chris.

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Speaker 1: He said, my roommate is a lawyer and he told

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Speaker 1: me that they reviewed the Amneville horror House and it

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Speaker 1: falls under what they call stigmatized property. Oh interesting, So

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Speaker 1: he actually put in the Facebook group a whole Wikipedia

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Speaker 1: thing about stigmatized property and this is so interesting, says.

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Speaker 1: These can include death of an occupant, murder, suicide, and

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Speaker 1: belief that the house is haunted. So and wait, what

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Speaker 1: are the examples. Yes, the examples would be the Amnieville

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Speaker 1: Horror House because of all that. Yeah, so I think

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Speaker 1: that it is it is something that yeah, you should

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Speaker 1: kind of I get it, you're trying to make the sale,

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Speaker 1: but come on, oh yeah you should let people know.

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Speaker 2: You really should. I remember writing a book report about

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Speaker 2: the Amityville Horror I read that book when I was

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Speaker 2: in first grade. I think first, I want to say

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Speaker 2: first grade. How old are you in first grade? Like

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Speaker 2: six or seven? Yeah, I was a little you know, darkling,

901
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Speaker 2: You're just like me. Yeah, it's weird. I think it's

902
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: just this thing you are. It's like part of your DNA.

903
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Speaker 2: It's what attracts you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like it's an attraction to. That's what

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Speaker 1: I was just saying on our friend Michael Barrotti's podcast,

906
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Speaker 1: is that I've always been so attracted to and it

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Speaker 1: goes along with drag things that are seem like everyday live,

908
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Speaker 1: but there's just something is it gets it, It gets

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Speaker 1: flipped on its head somehow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what that's how I describe horror. Actually, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because I heard you say that on Michael's podcast, And

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Speaker 2: it's like when something in everyday life suddenly goes wrong. Yes,

913
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Speaker 2: it can be, and that's that's horror. It's it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's that thing of I'm not safe in

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Speaker 2: my in my regular environments for some reason suddenly. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's terrifying that idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what drag kind of is to me

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Speaker 1: as well, which is like, you know, you're fooling around

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Speaker 1: with gender and being just over the top, but still

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Speaker 1: in an everyday environment. I love a drag queen that's

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Speaker 1: like put in a place where there's no other drag

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Speaker 1: queens and oh yeah, it's like, what's that one thing

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Speaker 1: that's making this kind of an otherworldly experience?

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Speaker 2: Totally. That's how I felt when I saw Frankenfurter, and

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Speaker 2: that was mixing. I mean, that was called the Rocky

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Speaker 2: Horror Picture Show. So as far as I'm concerned, Frankenforter

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Speaker 2: was you know, rock, horror, drag, all those things in

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Speaker 2: one package.

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Speaker 1: Totally. And when you think about the two uh, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I can't think of their names right now.

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Speaker 1: Who are the the two normal people? And Janet Brad

932
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Speaker 1: and Janet of course when they go into that world, right,

933
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Speaker 1: they're not from that kind of world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's enormies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're about here.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me that out.

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Speaker 1: Tell people what you got going on. Where we can find.

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Speaker 2: Y'all on Instagram. It's just my name Darren Stein at

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Speaker 2: D A R R E and Stein st E I

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Speaker 2: N Instagram, Twitter, and you'll be seeing some films from

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Speaker 2: me very soon.

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Speaker 1: And where can they find the demon that's attached to you?

943
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Speaker 2: There's no demon attached to me. It's been exercise. It's

944
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Speaker 2: been gone for a.

945
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Speaker 1: While, literally exercise on the treadmill. That's what happened. When

946
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Speaker 1: the doctor they said you need to exercise.

947
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Speaker 2: And like we're gonna give you the Linda Blair treatment,

948
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Speaker 2: touch some you know, wires to you. But then when

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Speaker 2: I pulled up to your studio, am I radio turn

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Speaker 2: on again? Inexplicably? Is? I don't know? I will let

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Speaker 2: you know TBD to be continued.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, we'll have to do a check up in

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Speaker 1: a couple of months. Well, thank you so much to

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Speaker 1: Darren Stein. Guys. As always, you know, check out the

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Speaker 1: Facebook group ghosted by Rob's Dress for Laus, join us,

956
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, post your thoughts, feelings, comments, concerns, all that

957
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: kind of fun. Stuff, and please give us a five

958
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: star rating on Apple Podcasts. Write a nice review, that

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00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: would be great. I'm all over the place on you know,

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Speaker 1: social media, Roth Durez Fales And if you want to

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Speaker 1: see me in person this weekend, if you're in West Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be at the Abby hosting the brunch there,

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Speaker 1: which I believe the show starts at one pm and

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Speaker 1: that's always a good time. And Repol's drag Con is

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Speaker 1: happening this weekend, which yeah, I might, I might be there.

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Speaker 1: You might see me. I'll be around and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm recording tons of episodes this week, so we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot coming at you. And Honey, they will

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Speaker 1: not do his little point. So keep telling your friends

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Speaker 1: about the show. I'm so happy that we keep growing.

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Speaker 1: I keep hearing such great things from all the people

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Speaker 1: that are listening to it. I love you guys so much,

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Speaker 1: but both living and dad. But if I didn't ask

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Speaker 1: you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Okay, Bye, Star

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Speaker 1: bans On There a podcast network