WEBVTT - Ep. 80: Takeaways from Preseason Week 1 vs. Chiefs | Jags A.M. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to jag Za.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind Annie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and John Oser are

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<v Speaker 2>with me today. For the first time in about seven months,

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<v Speaker 2>we get to go over at Jaguars football highlights from

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<v Speaker 2>a real game. They had their first preseason game on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday against the Chiefs and things looked pretty good right

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<v Speaker 2>out of the gate. We're gonna start out with big

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<v Speaker 2>things today as we start off with.

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<v Speaker 3>Fast as our first Bay Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the problems last year was the slow starts

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<v Speaker 2>for the team as the Jaguars tried to get things going. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this was a fast start, certainly with that new kickoff pool.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked crazy at first.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm as say, Tank had a much cleaner look for

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<v Speaker 2>his I thought I was supposed to Detac with a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago in mine. But it was exciting to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to make a play like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was cool Again, was confidence to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>be like, Okay, these kids will turn the room and

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 5>Ax Shine yard.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Brian, We've been talking about this new kickoff rule,

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<v Speaker 2>what it was gonna look like, and it was really

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<v Speaker 2>exciting right from the gate.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, one of the things that we knew was that

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<v Speaker 4>if a guy got free, he was gonna have a

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<v Speaker 4>great chance to make a play because everyone is so

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<v Speaker 4>congested on the other side of the thirty five yard line.

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<v Speaker 4>And listen, there were two or three times where he

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<v Speaker 4>should have been tackled where he ran back to the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the field and all you saw were red

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<v Speaker 4>shirts surrounding him. He made a great play to get

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<v Speaker 4>to the outside. I mean, this is a talented guy,

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<v Speaker 4>and we didn't get to see enough of him last year,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's got the sort of body stature right. He's short,

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<v Speaker 4>he's compact, he's powerful, he's quick. It's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I really, I think the league got what they wanted

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<v Speaker 4>from this. There's gonna be some tweaks that they need

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<v Speaker 4>to make because when you give up a return like that,

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<v Speaker 4>coach is gonna go just kick it out of the

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<v Speaker 4>end zone.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll give it to him at the thirty yard line.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're gonna have to tweak it if they want

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<v Speaker 4>to keep it. But mission accomplished on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 6>They're gonna look for a sweet spot in terms of, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>where to kick the ball from certain rules in the tweaks,

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<v Speaker 6>I think, you know, you could easily see the kickoff

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<v Speaker 6>team try to drop a guy back to prevent long returns,

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<v Speaker 6>not to start with it. So I think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>see special teams coaches play with this because there's a

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<v Speaker 6>there's no best practices with the kickoff yet. But credit

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<v Speaker 6>to Parker Washington. Mean now, they've been looking for something

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<v Speaker 6>from him for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>But what's interesting is is that Doug Peterson told me

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<v Speaker 4>on Friday he wasn't gonna do anything. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 4>were only going to do the most vanilla of looks

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<v Speaker 4>on the kickoff team, and on the most vanilla of

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<v Speaker 4>looks they.

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<v Speaker 5>Got the return.

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<v Speaker 4>So when they start getting clever and creative and changing

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<v Speaker 4>up the kicker and the return men and the formation,

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<v Speaker 4>that's when it could.

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<v Speaker 5>Get really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely something that's gonna evolve as the season goes along.

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<v Speaker 2>As we saw even in the game on Saturday, things

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<v Speaker 2>looked very different from the first quarter through the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the game. Our second big thing today is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be clean. See any turnovers in this game from the team,

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<v Speaker 2>which is an issue that we saw last year. Doug

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<v Speaker 2>Peterson talked about that being one of the things he

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<v Speaker 2>was focusing on just playing smart football, John, Is there

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<v Speaker 2>a time to make of it?

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<v Speaker 3>I know it was, you know, the starters were not

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<v Speaker 3>very long.

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<v Speaker 2>But to keep taking care of the football, that's that's huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean Trevor was in for two series and didn't fumble,

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<v Speaker 6>which is sort of the overall thing. I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>you really see much of that until the pressure's really

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<v Speaker 6>on in that situation. That feels like where his fumbles

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<v Speaker 6>came from in the past. But sure, better to not

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<v Speaker 6>have them than to have them. And I think the

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<v Speaker 6>fact that you got through the whole game with the

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<v Speaker 6>team committing no turnovers, they were clean. They took advantage

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<v Speaker 6>of some situations, meaning you got the return and then

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<v Speaker 6>you had a point blank touchdown opportunity and you took

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<v Speaker 6>advantage of it. So the Chiefs got down closer to

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<v Speaker 6>the red zone, the defense stopped it. So no, you

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<v Speaker 6>can't tell much, but better to see what we saw

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<v Speaker 6>to see worse.

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<v Speaker 5>I can tell you firsthand.

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<v Speaker 4>The second half of the first preseason game from a

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<v Speaker 4>broadcaster's perspective, can get really arduous, right because you've got

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<v Speaker 4>second and third and fourth team guys out there and

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<v Speaker 4>they're jumping off sides and they're making stupid mistakes. The

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<v Speaker 4>impressive part about clean to me was that in the

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<v Speaker 4>second half there weren't a lot of those. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 4>was one here or there, but for the most there

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<v Speaker 4>was a situation where they had lost track of what

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<v Speaker 4>Kansas City was trying to do. There was some confusion

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<v Speaker 4>and coverage and Doug Peterson had to use a time

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<v Speaker 4>out in the fourth quarter. That's the only one to remember.

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<v Speaker 4>So the game was pretty clean from start to finish,

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<v Speaker 4>and in areas that generally are murky in preseason games,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a really good showing for the coaches and

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<v Speaker 4>players on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Night ran That's a good point that leads into our

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<v Speaker 2>final big thing, which is being consistent.

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<v Speaker 3>Doug Peterson talked postgame.

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<v Speaker 2>About how he didn't feel like there was a drop

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<v Speaker 2>off no matter which squad was out on the field.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think that's what you're seeing out there in practice.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I'm seeing anyway. And then tonight, with so

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<v Speaker 7>many guys playing in this game, you just there wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>really a drop off, you know, because sometimes when you

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<v Speaker 7>when you get out of that first second unit, sometimes

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<v Speaker 7>there's a letdown or a drop off with play and

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't see that tonight. Our guys played played fast,

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<v Speaker 7>they played hard. Were their mistakes, Sure, there were mistakes

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<v Speaker 7>and ms and things like that that we can clean

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<v Speaker 7>up this week. But you know, I think top to bottom,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, the guys guys played. Credit to them, they

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<v Speaker 7>played fast and they played physical.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian, We've talked in the past about when the starters

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<v Speaker 2>are out there's kind of a huge drop off and

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<v Speaker 2>just not having that competition necessarily at every position, but

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<v Speaker 2>having so many players that are kind of fighting for

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<v Speaker 2>a spot. You felt like even when the second third

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<v Speaker 2>string was in there, there was still a competition on

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<v Speaker 2>the field.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And the word consistency comes to mind, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, the difference between good players who can occasionally play

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<v Speaker 4>great and great players is consistency.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you go out there.

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<v Speaker 4>On the practice field early before any practice starts, you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to see the same five or six guys. Going

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<v Speaker 4>to see Trevor, you're gonna see Josh, you're gonna see Tyson,

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<v Speaker 4>You're going to see Evan Ingram. Who's the best example

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<v Speaker 4>of this, And what I've noticed in recent weeks, Kai,

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<v Speaker 4>is that Evan Ingram, who's the first guy on the

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<v Speaker 4>practice field every day is out there doing the same

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<v Speaker 4>things the same way, and you now are starting to

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<v Speaker 4>see other players follow him out. They've seen the clues

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<v Speaker 4>that greatness has left for them to pick up, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're starting to do that. I think that's one of

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<v Speaker 4>the reasons why they played clean into the second half,

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<v Speaker 4>why there wasn't a huge drop off from two to three,

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<v Speaker 4>is because guys like Evan Ingram are showing them how

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<v Speaker 4>to get it done in a consistent manner.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to make too much of the depth

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<v Speaker 6>because I thought they weren't particularly deep team in twenty two,

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<v Speaker 6>and they wound up being deep in the right spots.

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<v Speaker 6>In twenty three, I thought they were deeper and injuries

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<v Speaker 6>hurt him. So sometimes depth can mean exactly where you

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<v Speaker 6>get hurt. But overall, think about it, this is Trent

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<v Speaker 6>Balke's fourth year as general manager, thirt year of a

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<v Speaker 6>Doug Peterson. They had to draft the last year where

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<v Speaker 6>they drafted thirteen guys. It takes time in this league

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<v Speaker 6>to get guys you want to get the type of

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<v Speaker 6>guys you want. It does feel like what they want

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<v Speaker 6>and quality is dipping a little bit further into the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it didn't twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, stay with us here on Jags Am.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up, we're gonna go over all of the highlights

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<v Speaker 7>I just wanted our guys to execute and play hard,

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<v Speaker 7>play fast, and I felt like they did that today.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a new season, new faces, you know, some old

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<v Speaker 7>faces out there, you know, and it's just for us internally,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just a different feel. It's a different team, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>a whole different year. So it's not anything about last year.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just about getting better and moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Jagg's turning the page the beginning of the season officially

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<v Speaker 2>as that preseason game number one is underway. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>look it back at some of those highlights. And we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to wait long for a highlight because the

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<v Speaker 2>first kickoff return from Parker Washington was a pretty good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian. We talked about it a little off the top,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know if we expected that right out

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<v Speaker 3>of the gate, at least I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I didn't expect anything like that. As I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Doug had told us on Friday when we

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<v Speaker 4>met with him for the television meetings, that they weren't

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<v Speaker 4>going to do anything crazy. They weren't going to show anything,

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<v Speaker 4>and he didn't expect the Chiefs would either. This was

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<v Speaker 4>just a great play by Parker Washington, and this is

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<v Speaker 4>what the competition committee wanted. They knew that in that

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<v Speaker 4>tight area that if someone was able to get free,

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<v Speaker 4>this was possible.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's just a great play.

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<v Speaker 3>John.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking and Trevor even I think, pointed out

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<v Speaker 2>last week he felt like Parker was having a great

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<v Speaker 2>camp high stuffing there. I still don't know what he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing there, but he has been having a good camp

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<v Speaker 2>and to kind of see that progression in his second year,

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<v Speaker 2>John's been good.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he's a kid who can make plays. Even when

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<v Speaker 6>he didn't quite know what he was doing last year,

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<v Speaker 6>he made a couple of plays when the ball was

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<v Speaker 6>around him. If when he gets in the right spot

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<v Speaker 6>and really incorporates himself in the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember, he was hurt his first return last year.

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<v Speaker 6>He hurt his knee, so he really didn't get back

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<v Speaker 6>and get any receptions I think until Cincinnati when Christian

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<v Speaker 6>got hurt. A very limited sample size last year, so

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<v Speaker 6>I don't really expect him to be one of your

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<v Speaker 6>quote front line guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But Brian, like we.

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<v Speaker 6>Talked about, they need these second year guys to be

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<v Speaker 6>guys that you don't hold your breath when it's time

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<v Speaker 6>for them to play. He feels like that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He's also a guy with ability that you could craft

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<v Speaker 4>a package for and he's just really talented. I do

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<v Speaker 4>want to point out real quick, there were a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of guys that made blocks. Tyler Lacy had a blocky

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<v Speaker 4>serb Dullah, Tim Jones, Tank Bigsby. What was really impressive

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<v Speaker 4>about that play, beyond Parker's just ability, was how many

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<v Speaker 4>guys were down the field blocking all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's pretty cool to see just how wide open

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<v Speaker 2>the space is because of the way they have to

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<v Speaker 2>align now and just five yards apart, not kind of

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<v Speaker 2>running at each other. So to see how that goes

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<v Speaker 2>along with the season. Still one of our defensive highlights. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Serubdulah getting a sack in the first quarter I believe

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and partially because of the other two getting

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<v Speaker 2>there first. But always good to see when you can

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<v Speaker 2>get some pressure on the quarterback, even if it's Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>Maholmes who's very elusive.

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<v Speaker 5>He just kept coming right.

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<v Speaker 4>You see him coming all the way from the far side.

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<v Speaker 4>Trayvon Walker looped in from that three technique and misses

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<v Speaker 4>him right, and Abdula just got off the block and

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<v Speaker 4>kept playing. That's a guy with a sense for where

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<v Speaker 4>the quarterback is and that's shoot legal, so he would.

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<v Speaker 1>Have that well.

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<v Speaker 6>Doug has talked a lot about they're going to play.

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<v Speaker 6>All teams rotate their defensive line a little bit. This

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<v Speaker 6>team feels like it's going to rotate a lot. It's

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<v Speaker 6>one of Ryan Nielsen's things. So if Abdulah can get

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<v Speaker 6>in that mix of eight or nine, we can see this.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's important for that group as a whole,

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<v Speaker 6>not necessarily Abdullah, but the group as a whole to

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<v Speaker 6>have gotten a little bit of pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>On Mahomes in this game at some point.

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<v Speaker 6>He only played what seven plays, but probably good for

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<v Speaker 6>their confidence that as a group, they caused some disruption.

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<v Speaker 6>It's what they didn't do enough last year outside of

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<v Speaker 6>Treyvon and Josh.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting you say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the media members was saying about

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<v Speaker 2>the defense that it kind of looked like a hockey

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<v Speaker 2>shift at times, really players coming on and off. And

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<v Speaker 2>Doug has come on the record and said he that's

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<v Speaker 2>what he likes about the scheme that they're running right now,

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<v Speaker 2>similar to when he was in Philadelphia, kind of utilizing

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's skill set at different points so you're not getting

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<v Speaker 2>as tired and you can maintain through g.

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<v Speaker 4>And Ryan Nielsen and Doug both said they expected especially

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<v Speaker 4>with Trey Bunn bulking up. He told us at Friday's

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<v Speaker 4>two hundre eighty five pounds, that's fifteen pounds t everything

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<v Speaker 4>was last year and he wanted to have his hand

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<v Speaker 4>on the ground inside and that three technique on the

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<v Speaker 4>inside shoulder of the guard. They didn't do enough of

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<v Speaker 4>that with him. They dropped him back into coverage last year.

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<v Speaker 4>That was him playing exactly the way Ryan Nielsen wanted

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<v Speaker 4>him to. So it was fun to see early on

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<v Speaker 4>and by the way, his eyes must have been like

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<v Speaker 4>saucers early on in the game with the chance to

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<v Speaker 4>hit the quarterback to just let that guy's side.

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<v Speaker 5>Step in like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we'll get there eventually. Sure he will in

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season. We hope Brian Thomas junior, first round pick,

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<v Speaker 2>getting his first catch of the year, kind of getting

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<v Speaker 2>some experience under his belt.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think this is a great play.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we'll get the exact angle of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reaction from the team on his catch right here,

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously been talking about Brian Thomas Junior kind of

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<v Speaker 2>getting him out of a shell, and he's definitely got

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<v Speaker 2>out of the shell after this, celebrating a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and just everybody's reaction on it is so funny. You

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<v Speaker 2>can look at a different person every single time. What

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<v Speaker 2>a great catch.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a great catch because Joshua Williams that corner

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<v Speaker 4>is hanging all over him, and what you don't see

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<v Speaker 4>until you see this angle is there's a safety who's

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<v Speaker 4>bearing down on him over the top. And to have

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<v Speaker 4>the concentration to fight off the one defender and understand

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<v Speaker 4>the other one was coming and make the catch tells

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<v Speaker 4>you he's used to making big catches.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my impression is they really like this kid, and

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<v Speaker 6>he's a kid who is easy to like because he

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't say a whole lot. I'm not around him the

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<v Speaker 6>way players are, but I haven't gotten the impression that

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<v Speaker 6>he's come in and thinks he's that guy and all

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<v Speaker 6>that so, and he's good and they know he's important.

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<v Speaker 6>So all of that sort of came out when he

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<v Speaker 6>caught that pass out of sidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cool to see. I mean, this is a team.

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<v Speaker 6>The wide receivers on this team, especially Ingram and David.

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk, sort of define it. They pull for each other.

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<v Speaker 6>In twenty two, that was a real calling card of

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<v Speaker 6>the bunch, is that they really didn't care who got

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<v Speaker 6>the catches. It feels like that that they're encouraging each other.

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<v Speaker 6>It feels like there is a camaraderie there. I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>gonna say it wasn't there last year, but it sort

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<v Speaker 6>of goes up and down. It feels like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be back this year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very nice to see seeing everybody bond together. And

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<v Speaker 2>obviously as things go with the rookie as he evolves,

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be great as well. Second year player. Another one

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<v Speaker 2>we want to talk about, Tank had a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>day for himself.

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<v Speaker 3>No fumbles.

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<v Speaker 2>As we talked about, ball security was an issue at times,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of big runsie core off and then also

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<v Speaker 2>that return that he got a little tripped up on.

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<v Speaker 2>But John, we know you love Tank, so it was

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<v Speaker 2>nice to see for.

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<v Speaker 1>Him he was not to love.

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<v Speaker 6>I know he was too good in camp last year

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<v Speaker 6>to be as ineffective as he was all year and

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<v Speaker 6>to continue that. If you watch him, he clearly has skills.

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<v Speaker 6>He clearly brings something to the table. Good for him

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<v Speaker 6>to see that when the uniform was on on Saturda.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to overplay and say this means he's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be an all Pro, but I think that

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<v Speaker 6>does give him some confidence. And I would just be

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<v Speaker 6>surprised if he's not a lot more of a factor

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<v Speaker 6>this year, not as based on this game and just

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<v Speaker 6>based on everything they're saying about him, everything we've seen

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<v Speaker 6>from him.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian, I think he can matter.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's unfairly targeted with ball security issues. There

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<v Speaker 4>were other players on this team that have had trouble

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<v Speaker 4>with the ball. The quarterback last year had twenty one

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<v Speaker 4>turnovers and in his first season on the starting lineup.

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<v Speaker 4>Travis CTN had a couple of really costly fumbles, one

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<v Speaker 4>against the Giants here that cost him a chance to

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<v Speaker 4>win the ball game. So people said, well, he didn't

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<v Speaker 4>take care of the ball. You know what, he had

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<v Speaker 4>one fumble, right, he had to go off his hands,

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<v Speaker 4>he had one fumble.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a really good player.

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<v Speaker 4>And the power and the speed and the versatility he's got.

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<v Speaker 4>The issue with him last year was trust, right, and

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<v Speaker 4>you could say, well it was ball security not as

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<v Speaker 4>much as it was protection issues. And both Press Taylor

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<v Speaker 4>and Peterson have said this year, we trust this kid.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think even the coaches looked back and regret

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<v Speaker 6>that a little bit that they kind of went away from.

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<v Speaker 6>I get why they did it when you have a

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<v Speaker 6>player like Travis DTN and in a lot of close games,

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<v Speaker 6>it's hard to go away from the guy for a

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<v Speaker 6>guy that you want to show confidence in. But I

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<v Speaker 6>think when they got together in February, that was probably

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<v Speaker 6>an area where they said, you know what, if we

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<v Speaker 6>had to do over again, we'd probably stick with him

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<v Speaker 6>a little more. I think there's a concerted effort and

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<v Speaker 6>it seems like tanks are going to make a payoff.

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<v Speaker 5>You were on him early in training camp last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone will be on him by the time this season ends.

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<v Speaker 4>He is going to be an impactful player this year.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to need to be, especially if this team

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<v Speaker 2>wants to succeed this year.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk with this catch from bether to Devin Duvernet,

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<v Speaker 2>another new edition in the offseason. Didn't look he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looked up, found the ball and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it was a broken player, if that was the

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<v Speaker 2>plan all along, but to come back and get this

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<v Speaker 2>catch and then roll in and get a touchdown, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's nice to have the versatility from the wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver group. They had versatility before, but just in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of being able to do different things and expecting something

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<v Speaker 2>from everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a couple of us.

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, CJ stood in with a hit, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and a other nice ball. This is NFL stuff here

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<v Speaker 6>at the end of the play, meaning the Chiefs defenders

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<v Speaker 6>you see doesn't locate the ball and DuVernay does so.

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<v Speaker 1>Duverne is a fifth to six year guy, been around it,

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<v Speaker 1>been doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>Certainly, if you can get this some impact offensively out

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<v Speaker 6>of him every four or five games, huge bones.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think one of the reasons why people were

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<v Speaker 4>uncomfortable with you wall adnew leaving was because he gave

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<v Speaker 4>them something in the offense.

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<v Speaker 5>Not just as a returnman.

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<v Speaker 4>This is an All Pro Pro Bowl return band who

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<v Speaker 4>also clearly can give you something down the field. He's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be a nice addition to there are more weapons

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<v Speaker 4>and if Parker Washington deva duber. These kinds of guys

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<v Speaker 4>can really give you a lyft over the course of

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<v Speaker 4>a seventeen game season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it seems like Devon may give you.

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<v Speaker 6>I love Jamal, great kid and mattered a great deal

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<v Speaker 6>to this team.

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<v Speaker 1>You sort of had to work to get him the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye. Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if he was a receipt well he

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<v Speaker 6>caulls him passes, but overall within the scope of the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Probably didn't love when he had to be your

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<v Speaker 1>third or fourth guy.

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<v Speaker 6>During a looks like he may be a little better

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<v Speaker 6>within the normal scheme of the offense than Jamal was,

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<v Speaker 6>so uh, maybe that's an upgrade.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Having options is good. I feel like sometimes you felt

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<v Speaker 2>maybe limited by certain things on the offense last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that there is options that you know are at

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<v Speaker 2>your disposal. That has to be big for them. And

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<v Speaker 2>then finally we're gonna do the chief's kickoff safety situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Doug tried to explain it a little bit as we

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<v Speaker 2>learn about this kickoff as things go, the Chief's called

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<v Speaker 2>for safety because of taking the ball back, and they

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<v Speaker 2>and and the way it's described exactly is kind of.

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<v Speaker 6>Under the old rule, this is a touchback. As soon

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<v Speaker 6>as the ball crosses into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Under the new rules, the ball stays live. Again.

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<v Speaker 6>This play is dead right now. Last year, it's still

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<v Speaker 6>live until he pulls it back in. So he gave

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<v Speaker 6>himself a safety. I think what Doug basically did was,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I know that doesn't feel right. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know why I need to get them not to review it.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm not sure he knew exactly why. It sounds

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<v Speaker 6>like Heath and Zach had a general idea that something

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<v Speaker 6>was wrong and said, hey, challenge, you know, couldn't challenge

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<v Speaker 6>went to the official officials, got it right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 6>What Doug said in the post game press conference is

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<v Speaker 6>probably the most telling thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Good that it happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, and I'll guarantee you every team will be looking

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<v Speaker 6>at that in special teams meetings all week saying okay,

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<v Speaker 6>here's the first example of why this is. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>screwing returners. Make sure you don't do this. So this

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<v Speaker 6>teaching point for the league.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Derek Prince or Generic Prince, the running back, just

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<v Speaker 4>he watched the bounce and he just walked away.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly he thought that was right muscle memory. He told

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<v Speaker 1>him that was a touchback.

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<v Speaker 4>It was only mchole Hardman who had the sense ability

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<v Speaker 4>to get back there and to you know, at least

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<v Speaker 4>try to down it. Otherwise Jaguars will fall on it. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>the touchdown for them. You guys were on that conference

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<v Speaker 4>call last week where they went through all the rules

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.840
<v Speaker 4>with Walt Anderson and we prepared for it on the broadcast,

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<v Speaker 4>and yet I mean it was just thirty yard touchback.

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<v Speaker 5>Touchback comes to the twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's just so many different moving parts and

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<v Speaker 4>nobody knows somebody knows them all. I don't, right, not

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people know them all. And this is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be an ongoing.

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<v Speaker 2>My last all season as we saw it, and the

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<v Speaker 2>refs need to kind of consult with everybody and look

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<v Speaker 2>over things again.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's important Doug pointing out just look at.

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<v Speaker 5>It, saying do you know what that one is?

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<v Speaker 6>Because you can certainly see where special teams coaches will

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<v Speaker 6>play with the option of trying to have that ball

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<v Speaker 6>bounce because all of a sudden, the idea of creating

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<v Speaker 6>chaos for the returner and uncertainty in the return about.

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<v Speaker 5>What's in the surefield.

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<v Speaker 6>You can easily see how that could incorporate if and

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<v Speaker 6>I think Heath said it when they first drafted Cam

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<v Speaker 6>Little that he had really good control on kicks like

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<v Speaker 6>that and was able to get spin on it. I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't put two and two together. You can see why

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<v Speaker 6>from seeing that play the other night.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, something that came up I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>whether you guys noticed it after a safety, how do

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<v Speaker 4>you normally kick the ball back with a free kick

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<v Speaker 4>from the twenty yard line.

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<v Speaker 5>I generally used a punter. They did not do that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the first time that had happened, right, So they

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<v Speaker 4>went right to the dynamic kickoff with the kickoff from

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<v Speaker 4>the thirty five yard line. So that's a new change

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<v Speaker 4>that they didn't talk about on the conference call. And

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<v Speaker 4>those are the kinds of little.

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<v Speaker 1>Things that I still don't fix on side kick.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't consider, well they will next year.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to see as it all goes along. Fun

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<v Speaker 2>for all of us, you guys. Coming up after the break,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to do some hot takes after our first

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<v Speaker 2>preseason game is under our belt.

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<v Speaker 1>Moved the freight.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back games to Jagsam.

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<v Speaker 2>We finally have football to talk about, actual game, real

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<v Speaker 2>game football. I know it's the preseason, but we'll take

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<v Speaker 2>we can get at this point. What are your hot

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<v Speaker 2>takes after the first preseason game, Brian, where are you

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<v Speaker 2>going with your.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know there's ten of eleven is a good night.

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<v Speaker 4>The Daguars have eleven players on the roster from that

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<v Speaker 4>big franchise record third team member draft class from a

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<v Speaker 4>year ago, and ten of them played the other night.

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<v Speaker 4>The only one that didn't was Anton Harrison. We know

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<v Speaker 4>he hasn't practiced with the concussion the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>but everyone else made a play at big speed. Brenton

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<v Speaker 4>Strange was on a beautiful crossing route and Mac Josie's

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<v Speaker 4>missed it right, I mean, otherwise he probably scores you,

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<v Speaker 4>Sir Abdula. We talked about Tyler Lacy had a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of tackles. Even Eric Allen, who spent last year on

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<v Speaker 4>the practice squad as a safety, stepped up and made

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<v Speaker 4>place Parker Washington. You just go from you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>second all the way down to the eleventh pick, and

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<v Speaker 4>all of them are on the field, and all of

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<v Speaker 4>them made plays in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 5>Call it flashing.

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<v Speaker 4>They show you things that you need to see to

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<v Speaker 4>believe that they're taking steps forward. They've been a major

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<v Speaker 4>storyline of training camp and as of the first preseason

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<v Speaker 4>game on Saturday night, they all passed well.

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<v Speaker 6>It shows you they're fitting and you know, guess what,

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<v Speaker 6>it takes a while in this league for young players

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<v Speaker 6>to know their place, to know how to contribute. So

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<v Speaker 6>I agree with Brian. I think that's a huge storyline.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you see guys like Bigsby Washington out of

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<v Speaker 6>that ten, if five matter this year, then you've got

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<v Speaker 6>six guys out of that draft class who are contributing

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<v Speaker 6>in a major way, you'll definitely take that. I went

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<v Speaker 6>with it's gonna take more than two weeks to fix

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<v Speaker 6>the running game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my way of not having.

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<v Speaker 6>To say relax again because every year after the first

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<v Speaker 6>preseason game I get emails from people. You know, I

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<v Speaker 6>got one the other night. Devin Lloyd was awful. Yea,

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<v Speaker 6>and he played what five play?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean more than that, but point being, I think.

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<v Speaker 6>Doug after the game had that proper perspective of the preseason.

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<v Speaker 6>Week one these days is so close to being a

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<v Speaker 6>practice that coaches when they come out of it, they're

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<v Speaker 6>not up and down.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not the emotion because they know what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>We see helmets and uniforms and think this is the

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<v Speaker 6>real thing we're watching. There's no game planning, etc. There

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<v Speaker 6>was panic over the running game. They didn't run early

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<v Speaker 6>in the game. That's not going to look right in

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<v Speaker 6>the first couple of preseason games. It's gonna take until

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<v Speaker 6>September or October for cohesion to come in.

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<v Speaker 4>So well, once again, you're playing with a backup at

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<v Speaker 4>left guard, which we did all season last year. Ezra

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<v Speaker 4>Cleveland didn't play because the heel injury that slowed him down.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week on Travis played eight or nine plays.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so that's a timing issue.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's Force told me last week that the running

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<v Speaker 4>game thing, it sometimes takes a game or two in

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<v Speaker 4>the regular season before you understand what the guy next

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<v Speaker 4>to you is doing, especially when you have a brand

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<v Speaker 4>new starting center.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Take some time, and we'll all just take time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for mine, it's a little bit of reference

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<v Speaker 2>of last year. So last season officially in the rear

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<v Speaker 2>view mirror, easy for us to say obviously a new

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<v Speaker 2>season has begun. I think we've all covered enough teams

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<v Speaker 2>where sometimes it's the same kind of team rolling themselves

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<v Speaker 2>out there. There was obviously a lot of changes and

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<v Speaker 2>coaching staff, players brought in, drafted as well. It's different,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels different. You'll hear it from the players themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>The locker room is different for them, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>even just coming out having a fast start showing some

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<v Speaker 2>of the issues that were there last year were at

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<v Speaker 2>top of mind even that they're addressing that, and Doug

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<v Speaker 2>I think had a really poignant offseason point to himself

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<v Speaker 2>and realizing, hey, I have to play these young guys more.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about this second year players because I can't

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<v Speaker 2>do that again and just go revert back to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>running Travis into the ground or whatever. It might be

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<v Speaker 2>different players there as well, because when Christian Kirk goes down,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to expect Parker Washington to step in. And

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<v Speaker 2>he learned that maybe the hard way at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of last season.

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<v Speaker 4>If you think of last year as you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>a piece of paper with a picture on it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not hanging in the locker anymore like it has been

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<v Speaker 4>all off season, but it's kind of tucked away where

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<v Speaker 4>they can kind of still get to it.

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<v Speaker 5>There's still that sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Of what we didn't do well last year, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and not in terms of on the field, but off

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<v Speaker 4>the field, in the locker room, on the practice field.

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<v Speaker 4>What didn't fit right around here, and Trevor talked about

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<v Speaker 4>that last week is that has to be a driving force,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not in their face every day. They've changed

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<v Speaker 4>the way they do business in the locker room and

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<v Speaker 4>it was obvious in camp and obvious on Saturday night

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<v Speaker 4>that so far, so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think there.

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<v Speaker 6>Is an awareness that it's the sixteen minute, seventeen game season.

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<v Speaker 6>I think they all knew that, but I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>the thing that's in the front of their mind. It

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<v Speaker 6>feels to me like.

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<v Speaker 1>A more.

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<v Speaker 6>An older team, a more experienced team, a wiser team

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<v Speaker 6>of Hey, you know, whatever happened last year, we have

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<v Speaker 6>to take this one day at a time, all those

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<v Speaker 6>cliches and be pros from now until January and.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it going. So it feels it feels right, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels positive.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see what happens in the joint practices, right, I

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<v Speaker 6>hope we're about to find we.

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<v Speaker 2>Shall say with us here on Jagsam. We'll be right

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<v Speaker 7>Guy's a great he may and a great guy for

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<v Speaker 7>all you guys like listen, young black successful.

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<v Speaker 1>He's single, by the way, just let everyone know he

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<v Speaker 1>is single. So if you guys need somebody, he's your guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you that gave Davis a great wingman, great guy

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<v Speaker 2>to have in the wide receiver room with you.

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<v Speaker 1>That says a lot right there. I mean, it's nice.

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<v Speaker 6>It sort of speaks what he talked about earlier in

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<v Speaker 6>the show that they like this kid. People forget when

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<v Speaker 6>they come in his first round picks that they are

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<v Speaker 6>kids and they're sort of looking around, not knowing what's

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<v Speaker 6>going on and not even really sure how to fit

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<v Speaker 6>in right like, so, uh yeah, that's a really good sign.

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<v Speaker 4>It's great to see Gabe get involved as well with

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<v Speaker 4>that twenty yard That was a beautiful thrill by Trevor.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely all right, we got joint practice coming up on

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday and Thursday, the Bucks are going to be in town.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you guys most looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 2>I just enjoy kind of the competition, not going against

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<v Speaker 2>yourself in practice. I know Doug always says that he

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<v Speaker 2>takes these reps almost as seriously, or.

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<v Speaker 1>If not more than Yeah, it's important week.

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<v Speaker 6>He he really thinks that these are ones where you

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<v Speaker 6>can control what.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to get out of it. You can get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot out of it.

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<v Speaker 6>And the starters won't play on Saturday because Doug wants

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 6>him to be getting this and then it's taken the

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 6>place almost of that fourth preseason game. You lost the

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<v Speaker 6>reps here matter and then you sort of use Saturday's

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<v Speaker 6>game to get a look at the guys who won't

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<v Speaker 6>get as many reps this week.

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<v Speaker 4>There isn't a bigger challenge to run the football than

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<v Speaker 4>Vita Vea in the middle of that defensive line. I mean,

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 4>he is massive, quick and strong. This is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a nice test for that interior threesome. Can they

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<v Speaker 4>move him and create some seams in short yardage running situations.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of times when you watch that stuff on

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<v Speaker 4>the practice field, you're just like, yeah, all right, great,

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, big guys hitting each other. This week, there's

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<v Speaker 4>some real meaning to it with him in the middle

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<v Speaker 4>of that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely gonna be a lot of matchups to watch. Come

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<v Speaker 3>out to practice if you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday and Thursday, those are the joint practices with the Bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be live outside at practice for both days joining

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<v Speaker 2>me there, so make sure you tune in with us

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday and Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>See then