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Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Za.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind Annie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and John Oser are

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Speaker 2: with me today. For the first time in about seven months,

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Speaker 2: we get to go over at Jaguars football highlights from

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Speaker 2: a real game. They had their first preseason game on

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Speaker 2: Saturday against the Chiefs and things looked pretty good right

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Speaker 2: out of the gate. We're gonna start out with big

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Speaker 2: things today as we start off with.

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Speaker 3: Fast as our first Bay Day.

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Speaker 2: Some of the problems last year was the slow starts

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Speaker 2: for the team as the Jaguars tried to get things going. Now,

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Speaker 2: this was a fast start, certainly with that new kickoff pool.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gone.

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Speaker 1: I looked crazy at first.

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Speaker 2: I'm as say, Tank had a much cleaner look for

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Speaker 2: his I thought I was supposed to Detac with a

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Speaker 2: long time ago in mine. But it was exciting to

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Speaker 2: be able to make a play like that.

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Speaker 4: It was cool Again, was confidence to be able to

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Speaker 4: be like, Okay, these kids will turn the room and

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be.

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Speaker 5: Ax Shine yard.

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Speaker 2: Right Brian, We've been talking about this new kickoff rule,

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Speaker 2: what it was gonna look like, and it was really

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Speaker 2: exciting right from the gate.

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Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that we knew was that

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Speaker 4: if a guy got free, he was gonna have a

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Speaker 4: great chance to make a play because everyone is so

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Speaker 4: congested on the other side of the thirty five yard line.

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Speaker 4: And listen, there were two or three times where he

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Speaker 4: should have been tackled where he ran back to the

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Speaker 4: middle of the field and all you saw were red

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Speaker 4: shirts surrounding him. He made a great play to get

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Speaker 4: to the outside. I mean, this is a talented guy,

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Speaker 4: and we didn't get to see enough of him last year,

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Speaker 4: but he's got the sort of body stature right. He's short,

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Speaker 4: he's compact, he's powerful, he's quick. It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 4: I really, I think the league got what they wanted

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Speaker 4: from this. There's gonna be some tweaks that they need

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Speaker 4: to make because when you give up a return like that,

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Speaker 4: coach is gonna go just kick it out of the

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Speaker 4: end zone.

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Speaker 5: We'll give it to him at the thirty yard line.

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Speaker 4: So they're gonna have to tweak it if they want

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Speaker 4: to keep it. But mission accomplished on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna look for a sweet spot in terms of, uh,

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Speaker 6: where to kick the ball from certain rules in the tweaks,

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, you could easily see the kickoff

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Speaker 6: team try to drop a guy back to prevent long returns,

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Speaker 6: not to start with it. So I think you're gonna

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Speaker 6: see special teams coaches play with this because there's a

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Speaker 6: there's no best practices with the kickoff yet. But credit

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Speaker 6: to Parker Washington. Mean now, they've been looking for something

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Speaker 6: from him for a while.

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Speaker 4: But what's interesting is is that Doug Peterson told me

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Speaker 4: on Friday he wasn't gonna do anything. I mean, they

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Speaker 4: were only going to do the most vanilla of looks

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Speaker 4: on the kickoff team, and on the most vanilla of

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Speaker 4: looks they.

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Speaker 5: Got the return.

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Speaker 4: So when they start getting clever and creative and changing

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Speaker 4: up the kicker and the return men and the formation,

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Speaker 5: Get really interesting.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely something that's gonna evolve as the season goes along.

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Speaker 2: As we saw even in the game on Saturday, things

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Speaker 2: looked very different from the first quarter through the end

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Speaker 2: of the game. Our second big thing today is gonna

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Speaker 2: be clean. See any turnovers in this game from the team,

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Speaker 2: which is an issue that we saw last year. Doug

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Speaker 2: Peterson talked about that being one of the things he

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Speaker 2: was focusing on just playing smart football, John, Is there

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Speaker 2: a time to make of it?

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Speaker 3: I know it was, you know, the starters were not

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Speaker 3: very long.

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Speaker 2: But to keep taking care of the football, that's that's huge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little.

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Speaker 6: I mean Trevor was in for two series and didn't fumble,

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Speaker 6: which is sort of the overall thing. I don't think

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Speaker 6: on in that situation. That feels like where his fumbles

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Speaker 6: came from in the past. But sure, better to not

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Speaker 6: have them than to have them. And I think the

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Speaker 6: fact that you got through the whole game with the

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Speaker 6: team committing no turnovers, they were clean. They took advantage

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Speaker 6: of some situations, meaning you got the return and then

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Speaker 6: advantage of it. So the Chiefs got down closer to

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Speaker 6: the red zone, the defense stopped it. So no, you

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Speaker 6: can't tell much, but better to see what we saw

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Speaker 6: to see worse.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you firsthand.

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Speaker 4: The second half of the first preseason game from a

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Speaker 4: broadcaster's perspective, can get really arduous, right because you've got

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Speaker 4: second and third and fourth team guys out there and

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Speaker 4: they're jumping off sides and they're making stupid mistakes. The

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Speaker 4: impressive part about clean to me was that in the

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Speaker 4: second half there weren't a lot of those. Yeah, there

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Speaker 4: was one here or there, but for the most there

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Speaker 4: was a situation where they had lost track of what

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Speaker 4: and coverage and Doug Peterson had to use a time

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Speaker 4: out in the fourth quarter. That's the only one to remember.

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Speaker 4: So the game was pretty clean from start to finish,

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Speaker 4: and in areas that generally are murky in preseason games,

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Speaker 4: it was a really good showing for the coaches and

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Speaker 4: players on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Night ran That's a good point that leads into our

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Speaker 2: final big thing, which is being consistent.

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson talked postgame.

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Speaker 2: About how he didn't feel like there was a drop

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Speaker 2: off no matter which squad was out on the field.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's what you're seeing out there in practice.

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Speaker 7: That's what I'm seeing anyway. And then tonight, with so

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Speaker 7: many guys playing in this game, you just there wasn't

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Speaker 7: really a drop off, you know, because sometimes when you

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Speaker 7: when you get out of that first second unit, sometimes

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Speaker 7: there's a letdown or a drop off with play and

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Speaker 7: I didn't see that tonight. Our guys played played fast,

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Speaker 7: they played hard. Were their mistakes, Sure, there were mistakes

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Speaker 7: up this week. But you know, I think top to bottom,

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Speaker 7: you know, the guys guys played. Credit to them, they

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Speaker 7: played fast and they played physical.

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Speaker 2: Brian, We've talked in the past about when the starters

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Speaker 2: are out there's kind of a huge drop off and

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Speaker 2: just not having that competition necessarily at every position, but

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Speaker 2: having so many players that are kind of fighting for

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Speaker 2: a spot. You felt like even when the second third

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And the word consistency comes to mind, right.

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Speaker 4: Listen, the difference between good players who can occasionally play

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Speaker 5: And if you go out there.

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Speaker 4: On the practice field early before any practice starts, you're

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Speaker 4: going to see the same five or six guys. Going

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Speaker 4: You're going to see Evan Ingram. Who's the best example

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Speaker 4: of this, And what I've noticed in recent weeks, Kai,

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Speaker 4: is that Evan Ingram, who's the first guy on the

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Speaker 4: things the same way, and you now are starting to

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Speaker 4: see other players follow him out. They've seen the clues

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Speaker 4: that greatness has left for them to pick up, and

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Speaker 4: they're starting to do that. I think that's one of

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Speaker 4: the reasons why they played clean into the second half,

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Speaker 4: why there wasn't a huge drop off from two to three,

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Speaker 4: is because guys like Evan Ingram are showing them how

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Speaker 6: I don't want to make too much of the depth

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Speaker 6: because I thought they weren't particularly deep team in twenty two,

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Speaker 6: and they wound up being deep in the right spots.

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Speaker 6: In twenty three, I thought they were deeper and injuries

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Speaker 6: hurt him. So sometimes depth can mean exactly where you

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Speaker 6: get hurt. But overall, think about it, this is Trent

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Speaker 6: Balke's fourth year as general manager, thirt year of a

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Speaker 6: Doug Peterson. They had to draft the last year where

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Speaker 6: they drafted thirteen guys. It takes time in this league

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Speaker 6: to get guys you want to get the type of

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Speaker 6: guys you want. It does feel like what they want

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Speaker 6: and quality is dipping a little bit further into the roster.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it didn't twenty two.

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Speaker 3: All right, stay with us here on Jags Am.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, we're gonna go over all of the highlights

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Speaker 7: I just wanted our guys to execute and play hard,

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Speaker 7: play fast, and I felt like they did that today.

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Speaker 7: It's a new season, new faces, you know, some old

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Speaker 7: it's just a different feel. It's a different team, you know,

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Speaker 7: a whole different year. So it's not anything about last year.

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Speaker 7: It's just about getting better and moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Jagg's turning the page the beginning of the season officially

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Speaker 2: as that preseason game number one is underway. So let's

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Speaker 2: look it back at some of those highlights. And we

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Speaker 2: didn't have to wait long for a highlight because the

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Speaker 2: first kickoff return from Parker Washington was a pretty good one.

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Speaker 3: Brian. We talked about it a little off the top,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know if we expected that right out

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't expect anything like that. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 4: you know, Doug had told us on Friday when we

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Speaker 4: going to do anything crazy. They weren't going to show anything,

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Speaker 4: and he didn't expect the Chiefs would either. This was

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Speaker 4: just a great play by Parker Washington, and this is

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Speaker 4: what the competition committee wanted. They knew that in that

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Speaker 4: tight area that if someone was able to get free,

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Speaker 5: And it's just a great play.

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Speaker 3: John.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking and Trevor even I think, pointed out

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Speaker 2: last week he felt like Parker was having a great

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Speaker 2: camp high stuffing there. I still don't know what he's

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Speaker 2: doing there, but he has been having a good camp

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Speaker 2: and to kind of see that progression in his second year,

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Speaker 2: John's been good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a kid who can make plays. Even when

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Speaker 6: he didn't quite know what he was doing last year,

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Speaker 6: he made a couple of plays when the ball was

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Speaker 6: and really incorporates himself in the offense.

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Speaker 1: Remember, he was hurt his first return last year.

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Speaker 6: He hurt his knee, so he really didn't get back

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Speaker 6: and get any receptions I think until Cincinnati when Christian

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Speaker 6: I don't really expect him to be one of your

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Speaker 1: But Brian, like we.

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Speaker 6: Talked about, they need these second year guys to be

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Speaker 4: He's also a guy with ability that you could craft

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Speaker 1: Have that well.

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Speaker 6: Doug has talked a lot about they're going to play.

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Speaker 6: He only played what seven plays, but probably good for

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Speaker 6: It's what they didn't do enough last year outside of

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Speaker 4: And Ryan Nielsen and Doug both said they expected especially

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Speaker 4: That was him playing exactly the way Ryan Nielsen wanted

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Speaker 5: Step in like that.

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Speaker 2: I know we'll get there eventually. Sure he will in

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Speaker 3: And I don't think this is a great play.

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Speaker 2: But the reaction from the team on his catch right here,

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Speaker 4: It was a great catch because Joshua Williams that corner

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my impression is they really like this kid, and

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Speaker 6: So all of that sort of came out when he

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Speaker 1: It was cool to see. I mean, this is a team.

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Speaker 6: The wide receivers on this team, especially Ingram and David.

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Speaker 2: It's very nice to see seeing everybody bond together. And

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Speaker 2: we want to talk about, Tank had a pretty good

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Speaker 3: No fumbles.

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Speaker 2: As we talked about, ball security was an issue at times,

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Speaker 1: Him he was not to love.

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Speaker 4: I think he's unfairly targeted with ball security issues. There

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Speaker 4: The issue with him last year was trust, right, and

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Speaker 5: You were on him early in training camp last year.

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Speaker 4: Everyone will be on him by the time this season ends.

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Speaker 4: He is going to be an impactful player this year.

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Speaker 2: He's going to need to be, especially if this team

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk with this catch from bether to Devin Duvernet,

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Speaker 1: Well, a couple of us.

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Speaker 6: First of all, CJ stood in with a hit, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Duverne is a fifth to six year guy, been around it,

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Speaker 6: Certainly, if you can get this some impact offensively out

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Speaker 4: Well, I think one of the reasons why people were

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Speaker 5: Not just as a returnman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems like Devon may give you.

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Speaker 6: I love Jamal, great kid and mattered a great deal

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Speaker 1: You sort of had to work to get him the ball.

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Speaker 1: He's he's fast.

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Speaker 2: Having options is good. I feel like sometimes you felt

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Speaker 2: Now that there is options that you know are at

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Speaker 1: Under the new rules, the ball stays live. Again.

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Speaker 6: This play is dead right now. Last year, it's still

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Speaker 1: Good that it happened.

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Speaker 6: at that in special teams meetings all week saying okay,

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Speaker 6: here's the first example of why this is. You know,

445
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Speaker 6: screwing returners. Make sure you don't do this. So this

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Speaker 6: teaching point for the league.

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Speaker 4: Well, Derek Prince or Generic Prince, the running back, just

448
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Speaker 4: he watched the bounce and he just walked away.

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Speaker 1: Clearly he thought that was right muscle memory. He told

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Speaker 1: him that was a touchback.

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Speaker 4: It was only mchole Hardman who had the sense ability

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Speaker 4: to get back there and to you know, at least

453
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Speaker 4: try to down it. Otherwise Jaguars will fall on it. Right,

454
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Speaker 4: the touchdown for them. You guys were on that conference

455
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Speaker 4: call last week where they went through all the rules

456
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Speaker 4: with Walt Anderson and we prepared for it on the broadcast,

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Speaker 4: and yet I mean it was just thirty yard touchback.

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Speaker 5: Touchback comes to the twenty.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's just so many different moving parts and

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Speaker 4: nobody knows somebody knows them all. I don't, right, not

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Speaker 4: a lot of people know them all. And this is

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Speaker 4: going to be an ongoing.

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Speaker 2: My last all season as we saw it, and the

464
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Speaker 2: refs need to kind of consult with everybody and look

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Speaker 2: over things again.

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Speaker 3: I think that's important Doug pointing out just look at.

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Speaker 5: It, saying do you know what that one is?

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Speaker 6: Because you can certainly see where special teams coaches will

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Speaker 6: play with the option of trying to have that ball

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Speaker 6: bounce because all of a sudden, the idea of creating

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Speaker 6: chaos for the returner and uncertainty in the return about.

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Speaker 5: What's in the surefield.

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Speaker 6: You can easily see how that could incorporate if and

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Speaker 6: I think Heath said it when they first drafted Cam

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Speaker 6: Little that he had really good control on kicks like

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Speaker 6: that and was able to get spin on it. I

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Speaker 6: didn't put two and two together. You can see why

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Speaker 6: from seeing that play the other night.

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Speaker 4: By the way, something that came up I don't know

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Speaker 4: whether you guys noticed it after a safety, how do

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Speaker 4: you normally kick the ball back with a free kick

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Speaker 4: from the twenty yard line.

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Speaker 5: I generally used a punter. They did not do that.

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Speaker 4: That's the first time that had happened, right, So they

485
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Speaker 4: went right to the dynamic kickoff with the kickoff from

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Speaker 4: the thirty five yard line. So that's a new change

487
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Speaker 4: that they didn't talk about on the conference call. And

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Speaker 4: those are the kinds of little.

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Speaker 1: Things that I still don't fix on side kick.

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Speaker 5: You don't consider, well they will next year.

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Speaker 2: We're going to see as it all goes along. Fun

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Speaker 2: for all of us, you guys. Coming up after the break,

493
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Speaker 2: We're going to do some hot takes after our first

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Speaker 2: preseason game is under our belt.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back games to Jagsam.

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Speaker 2: We finally have football to talk about, actual game, real

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Speaker 2: game football. I know it's the preseason, but we'll take

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Speaker 2: we can get at this point. What are your hot

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Speaker 2: takes after the first preseason game, Brian, where are you

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Speaker 2: going with your.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know there's ten of eleven is a good night.

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Speaker 4: The Daguars have eleven players on the roster from that

506
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Speaker 4: big franchise record third team member draft class from a

507
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Speaker 4: year ago, and ten of them played the other night.

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Speaker 4: The only one that didn't was Anton Harrison. We know

509
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Speaker 4: he hasn't practiced with the concussion the last couple of weeks,

510
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Speaker 4: but everyone else made a play at big speed. Brenton

511
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Speaker 4: Strange was on a beautiful crossing route and Mac Josie's

512
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Speaker 4: missed it right, I mean, otherwise he probably scores you,

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Speaker 4: Sir Abdula. We talked about Tyler Lacy had a couple

514
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Speaker 4: of tackles. Even Eric Allen, who spent last year on

515
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Speaker 4: the practice squad as a safety, stepped up and made

516
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Speaker 4: place Parker Washington. You just go from you know, the

517
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Speaker 4: second all the way down to the eleventh pick, and

518
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Speaker 4: all of them are on the field, and all of

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Speaker 4: them made plays in the preseason.

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Speaker 5: Call it flashing.

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Speaker 4: They show you things that you need to see to

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Speaker 4: believe that they're taking steps forward. They've been a major

523
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Speaker 4: storyline of training camp and as of the first preseason

524
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Speaker 4: game on Saturday night, they all passed well.

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Speaker 6: It shows you they're fitting and you know, guess what,

526
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Speaker 6: it takes a while in this league for young players

527
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Speaker 6: to know their place, to know how to contribute. So

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Speaker 6: I agree with Brian. I think that's a huge storyline.

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Speaker 6: And if you see guys like Bigsby Washington out of

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Speaker 6: that ten, if five matter this year, then you've got

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Speaker 6: six guys out of that draft class who are contributing

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Speaker 6: in a major way, you'll definitely take that. I went

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Speaker 6: with it's gonna take more than two weeks to fix

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Speaker 6: the running game.

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Speaker 1: It's my way of not having.

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Speaker 6: To say relax again because every year after the first

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Speaker 6: preseason game I get emails from people. You know, I

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Speaker 6: got one the other night. Devin Lloyd was awful. Yea,

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Speaker 6: and he played what five play?

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Speaker 1: I mean more than that, but point being, I think.

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Speaker 6: Doug after the game had that proper perspective of the preseason.

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Speaker 6: Week one these days is so close to being a

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Speaker 6: practice that coaches when they come out of it, they're

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Speaker 6: not up and down.

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Speaker 1: There's not the emotion because they know what it is.

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Speaker 6: We see helmets and uniforms and think this is the

547
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Speaker 6: real thing we're watching. There's no game planning, etc. There

548
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Speaker 6: was panic over the running game. They didn't run early

549
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Speaker 6: in the game. That's not going to look right in

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Speaker 6: the first couple of preseason games. It's gonna take until

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Speaker 6: September or October for cohesion to come in.

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Speaker 4: So well, once again, you're playing with a backup at

553
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Speaker 4: left guard, which we did all season last year. Ezra

554
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Speaker 4: Cleveland didn't play because the heel injury that slowed him down.

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Speaker 1: Last week on Travis played eight or nine plays.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's a timing issue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Force told me last week that the running

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Speaker 4: game thing, it sometimes takes a game or two in

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Speaker 4: the regular season before you understand what the guy next

560
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Speaker 4: to you is doing, especially when you have a brand

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Speaker 4: new starting center.

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Speaker 5: So that's going to.

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Speaker 3: Take some time, and we'll all just take time.

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Speaker 2: I think for mine, it's a little bit of reference

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Speaker 2: of last year. So last season officially in the rear

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Speaker 2: view mirror, easy for us to say obviously a new

567
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Speaker 2: season has begun. I think we've all covered enough teams

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Speaker 2: where sometimes it's the same kind of team rolling themselves

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Speaker 2: out there. There was obviously a lot of changes and

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Speaker 2: coaching staff, players brought in, drafted as well. It's different,

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Speaker 2: it feels different. You'll hear it from the players themselves.

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Speaker 2: The locker room is different for them, and I think

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Speaker 2: even just coming out having a fast start showing some

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Speaker 2: of the issues that were there last year were at

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Speaker 2: top of mind even that they're addressing that, and Doug

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Speaker 2: I think had a really poignant offseason point to himself

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Speaker 2: and realizing, hey, I have to play these young guys more.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this second year players because I can't

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Speaker 2: do that again and just go revert back to you know,

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Speaker 2: running Travis into the ground or whatever. It might be

581
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Speaker 2: different players there as well, because when Christian Kirk goes down,

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Speaker 2: you have to expect Parker Washington to step in. And

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Speaker 2: he learned that maybe the hard way at the end

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Speaker 2: of last season.

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Speaker 4: If you think of last year as you know, like

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Speaker 4: a piece of paper with a picture on it. It's

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Speaker 4: not hanging in the locker anymore like it has been

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Speaker 4: all off season, but it's kind of tucked away where

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Speaker 4: they can kind of still get to it.

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Speaker 5: There's still that sense.

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Speaker 4: Of what we didn't do well last year, you know,

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Speaker 4: and not in terms of on the field, but off

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Speaker 4: the field, in the locker room, on the practice field.

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Speaker 4: What didn't fit right around here, and Trevor talked about

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Speaker 4: that last week is that has to be a driving force,

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Speaker 4: but it's not in their face every day. They've changed

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Speaker 4: the way they do business in the locker room and

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Speaker 4: it was obvious in camp and obvious on Saturday night

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Speaker 4: that so far, so good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there.

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Speaker 6: Is an awareness that it's the sixteen minute, seventeen game season.

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Speaker 6: I think they all knew that, but I think that's

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Speaker 6: the thing that's in the front of their mind. It

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Speaker 6: feels to me like.

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Speaker 1: A more.

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Speaker 6: An older team, a more experienced team, a wiser team

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Speaker 6: of Hey, you know, whatever happened last year, we have

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Speaker 6: to take this one day at a time, all those

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Speaker 6: cliches and be pros from now until January and.

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Speaker 1: Keep it going. So it feels it feels right, it

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Speaker 1: feels positive.

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Speaker 6: We'll see what happens in the joint practices, right, I

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Speaker 6: hope we're about to find we.

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Speaker 2: Shall say with us here on Jagsam. We'll be right

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Speaker 7: Guy's a great he may and a great guy for

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Speaker 7: all you guys like listen, young black successful.

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Speaker 1: He's single, by the way, just let everyone know he

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Speaker 1: is single. So if you guys need somebody, he's your guy.

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Speaker 2: Tell you that gave Davis a great wingman, great guy

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Speaker 2: to have in the wide receiver room with you.

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Speaker 1: That says a lot right there. I mean, it's nice.

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Speaker 6: It sort of speaks what he talked about earlier in

627
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Speaker 6: the show that they like this kid. People forget when

628
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Speaker 6: they come in his first round picks that they are

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Speaker 6: kids and they're sort of looking around, not knowing what's

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Speaker 6: going on and not even really sure how to fit

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Speaker 6: in right like, so, uh yeah, that's a really good sign.

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Speaker 4: It's great to see Gabe get involved as well with

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Speaker 4: that twenty yard That was a beautiful thrill by Trevor.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, we got joint practice coming up on

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Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday, the Bucks are going to be in town.

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Speaker 3: What are you guys most looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: I just enjoy kind of the competition, not going against

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Speaker 2: yourself in practice. I know Doug always says that he

639
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Speaker 2: takes these reps almost as seriously, or.

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Speaker 1: If not more than Yeah, it's important week.

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Speaker 6: He he really thinks that these are ones where you

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Speaker 6: can control what.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to get out of it. You can get

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Speaker 1: a lot out of it.

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Speaker 6: And the starters won't play on Saturday because Doug wants

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Speaker 6: him to be getting this and then it's taken the

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Speaker 6: place almost of that fourth preseason game. You lost the

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Speaker 6: reps here matter and then you sort of use Saturday's

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Speaker 6: game to get a look at the guys who won't

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Speaker 6: get as many reps this week.

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Speaker 4: There isn't a bigger challenge to run the football than

652
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Speaker 4: Vita Vea in the middle of that defensive line. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he is massive, quick and strong. This is going to

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Speaker 4: be a nice test for that interior threesome. Can they

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Speaker 4: move him and create some seams in short yardage running situations.

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Speaker 4: A lot of times when you watch that stuff on

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Speaker 4: the practice field, you're just like, yeah, all right, great,

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Speaker 4: you know, big guys hitting each other. This week, there's

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Speaker 4: some real meaning to it with him in the middle

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Speaker 4: of that thing.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely gonna be a lot of matchups to watch. Come

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Speaker 3: out to practice if you can.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday, those are the joint practices with the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: We'll be live outside at practice for both days joining

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Speaker 2: me there, so make sure you tune in with us

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 3: See then