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Speaker 2: Reminds me for some reason, you saying that Katie when
Speaker 2: I was single and childless. Thank you. What is her name, Gladys?
Speaker 2: I want to sorry, Gladys. I want to call her Lola.
Speaker 2: For some reason, Lola doesn't play the harp. Thank you,
Speaker 2: Gladys for laying the harp of me reminiscing about something
Speaker 2: when I was a single and childless. There were a
Speaker 2: few weekends where I would realize on Monday morning, as
Speaker 2: I'm driving to work to do the radio show, that
Speaker 2: I hadn't said a word since I left work on Friday,
Speaker 2: because I hadn't interacted with another human being at all.
Speaker 2: I just saidn't a word to anybody. Hmmm. I don't
Speaker 2: really know what to say to that.
Speaker 1: What percentage of the population can make that same claim
Speaker 1: I did not interact with another human being the entire weekend,
Speaker 1: did not speak a word. It's fairly limited, I would guess,
Speaker 1: but you know you do you what would you guess?
Speaker 1: And if you as angry hermit.
Speaker 2: I would guess that both my brothers have done it.
Speaker 2: Semi regularly recently with their kids older and out of
Speaker 2: the house, Like not even a phone call, Like that's bizarre.
Speaker 2: Nobody talks on the phone. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's a good example. Now back in the day, No,
Speaker 2: we're talking back in the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you had Gladys play the damn harp, then
Speaker 1: you called her Lola, and now we're in the present day.
Speaker 1: On what's going on here?
Speaker 2: Somebody explained the crowd roles. Have we all lost.
Speaker 1: What does Walter say in The Big Lebowski something about it?
Speaker 1: We all lost our minds? Nobody cares about the rules anymore.
Speaker 2: How much of an outliar do you think I am?
Speaker 2: You think I'm in the one percent of the population
Speaker 2: that has ever done that? Or it's fewer than five
Speaker 2: five pretty small.
Speaker 1: No, it's not five. It's one to one to two
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's probably good for you. I also
Speaker 2: had to do with like, like, you know, I have
Speaker 2: a really big Friday night, maybe a long watching movies
Speaker 2: or something, and you don't feel so good on Saturday,
Speaker 2: maybe part of Sunday. You just don't leave the house.
Speaker 2: You order a pizza. You know, it might be an
Speaker 2: exaggeration to have not said a word to anybody. Might
Speaker 2: have said thanks to the pizza guy when he handed
Speaker 2: me to pizza, but it wouldn't have been more than
Speaker 2: a couple of words.
Speaker 3: Oh, in this day and age, even with phones, I've
Speaker 3: done that where you take the recovery day, you turn
Speaker 3: the phone off.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So think about this though. The younger crowd
Speaker 2: now with their lifestyle, like you know our producer Sean
Speaker 2: or whatever, I'll but he had weekends where he never
Speaker 2: said a word to anybody other than through maybe a
Speaker 2: headset playing video games or a number of young people.
Speaker 2: Now that you know you can DoorDash or whatever, you
Speaker 2: don't have to call anybody to order food or something. Ill,
Speaker 2: but it happens more often than you think. It'd still
Speaker 2: be a small number. It makes me sad. All I
Speaker 2: know is we're moving more than that direction then away
Speaker 2: from it, I would guess.
Speaker 1: Which is good. You can see all the statistics on
Speaker 1: how happy and care free young people are these days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I ever came out of a
Speaker 2: weekend like thinking that was like a really good time,
Speaker 2: or what an awesome weekend that was, or something I'm
Speaker 2: not claiming that see.
Speaker 3: And I'm of the day and age of cell phones
Speaker 3: and whatnot, and it's amazing the hoops I will jump
Speaker 3: through to avoid having to talk to somebody else. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like you know, scheduling appointments online, ordering online, all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I would much rather do that than have to call
Speaker 3: and interact with someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I avoid it now, not because I don't want
Speaker 2: to talk to it. If I thought I could talk
Speaker 2: to human being, i'd call right away. I don't want
Speaker 2: to call and get your impossible to use automated phone
Speaker 2: system that takes me twenty minutes and doesn't work. I'll
Speaker 2: see if I can do it online. And the reason
Speaker 2: it takes twenty minutes and doesn't work is because you
Speaker 2: want me to do it online because it's the cheapest
Speaker 2: thing for you. But that's a different topic. A couple
Speaker 2: of quick things here. I just came across this. Don't
Speaker 2: usually talk about this sort of thing on this podcast.
Speaker 2: This money circulating in US is expanding rapidly. We have
Speaker 2: a money supply surge going on right now. It's the
Speaker 2: highest level in over a year. They think that will
Speaker 2: likely lead to inflation surging higher. Don't like that story.
Speaker 1: It ought to if the laws of monetary physics are
Speaker 1: still true, and they are.
Speaker 2: And then this one. This is an actual survey. This
Speaker 2: isn't one of those done by According to walkintubs dot com,
Speaker 2: older people always look at who paid for the survey.
Speaker 2: A lot of time surveys have just the crap because
Speaker 2: of who they paid for. This is actual research done
Speaker 2: by a team of German researches in Germany and the
Speaker 2: United States Journal of Psychology. Stuff about how what where
Speaker 2: we think old age begins has been moving higher. This
Speaker 2: is not surprising at all. Last lie, that's when do
Speaker 2: you think old age began for you? Yes? Absolutely, last time.
Speaker 2: I feel like I screwed up my back.
Speaker 1: Oh really it started the shuffling like I'm ninety and
Speaker 1: it's a lot better now.
Speaker 2: But that ill, that has a lot to do with it,
Speaker 2: because I was gonna mention my mom and dad have
Speaker 2: different numbers on that, and for those reasons, my mom's
Speaker 2: physical health is not near where my dad's is. So
Speaker 2: I don't know what she would say, but she would
Speaker 2: probably say old age starts. Well, I can tell you
Speaker 2: the average now is seventy five. If you actually ask
Speaker 2: a senior, when does old age begin? It's now seventy five.
Speaker 2: Seventy five is the new sixty five, because it used
Speaker 2: to be not that many years ago. People said old
Speaker 2: age started at sixty five. Now that would seem kind
Speaker 2: of crazy, I think for a lot of people. Yea,
Speaker 2: for me, it started at forty eight. That when you
Speaker 2: start hurting yourself, you know, just doing the most basic
Speaker 2: things like walking or something. Yeah. I was just in
Speaker 2: the lunch room in one of the saleswomen who is
Speaker 2: now in her forties, was talking about all forties or
Speaker 2: not what I thought they would be talking about trying
Speaker 2: to work out, and she keeps getting hurt and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. Yeah, but so now it's seventy five is
Speaker 2: both sixty five. My dad says eighty eighties when old
Speaker 2: age starts, but that's because he was still riding his
Speaker 2: horse up till eighty two. My mom has not been
Speaker 2: as physically as gifted as him and would put it
Speaker 2: a little earlier, but probably about surprisingly.
Speaker 1: The horse was seventy five. What it's an old horse,
Speaker 1: shoe horse?
Speaker 2: When are you going to get off of me? That
Speaker 2: is the question. When do I have when do I
Speaker 2: get to be an old age? That do only makes sense.
Speaker 2: I suppose life expectancy and help. But my mom regularly
Speaker 2: says when she was a kid, people in their sixties
Speaker 2: were considered old. You that you were done with life
Speaker 2: in your sixties. Nobody would have thought you played golf
Speaker 2: or rode a horse or rode bikes or vacationed or
Speaker 2: anything in your sixties.
Speaker 1: You were just like a new career.
Speaker 2: You were just in a rocking chair in your sixties,
Speaker 2: which now, of course, seems crazy. You're the youngest amongst
Speaker 2: Katie and he thoughts on this or does everything over
Speaker 2: the age of forty five just seem ancient to you?
Speaker 3: No, both my parent parents are in their early to
Speaker 3: mid seventies, and they're both young as can be, So
Speaker 3: I don't even think seventy five is old in my perspective.
Speaker 2: And I, dude, everything started hurting on me last year.
Speaker 3: And I had a stroke when I was thirty one,
Speaker 3: so I'm ninety.
Speaker 1: That's why we get along, so I had all better.
Speaker 2: Having a stroke at thirty one would change your view
Speaker 2: of it. I didn't have any health situation really at
Speaker 2: all until I got cancer at forty nine. But dude,
Speaker 2: my health went nuts at twenty nine.
Speaker 3: A kidney problem came up out of nowhere a quote
Speaker 3: mutated gene. I have a hereditary condition that is a
Speaker 3: mutated gene because nobody else in my family has it.
Speaker 3: And then I stroked out in twenty twenty. It was wild,
Speaker 3: have no idea what caused that the stroke? Yeah, well
Speaker 3: it was a mixture of not taking care of myself
Speaker 3: in stress. Okay, they said, oh really, but some of
Speaker 3: it was in your control. Yeah, I just I wasn't
Speaker 3: exercising at all. Obese big time?
Speaker 2: Were you really? I can't picture you obese at all?
Speaker 2: Two hundred and ten pounds? Were you really? This is
Speaker 2: new information, so that that's why you're always talking about
Speaker 2: working out and you eat so healthy. Yeah, I had
Speaker 2: I had to make a change.
Speaker 3: The doctors were like, this you do They actually call
Speaker 3: said that I dodged a bullet because I had three
Speaker 3: tias over the course.
Speaker 2: Of a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well it'll get your attention, want it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Huge? Kind of like what I mean.
Speaker 3: Michael Angelo had had the big shock diabetes diagnosis and
Speaker 3: had to make a complete change on his life.
Speaker 2: Eye opening. That's why I've been saying for a long
Speaker 2: time that I'd like to have a minor heart attack.
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I think a minor heart attack would
Speaker 2: get my attention and I wouldn't need donuts and stuff anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't want a major heart attack and don't want
Speaker 2: to die. I got kids to raise. But I think
Speaker 2: a minor heart attack just a little a huh, like
Speaker 2: flicking my ear huh. Wake up.
Speaker 1: Well, good luck with that plan. That's between you and
Speaker 1: the almighty, who you'll be meeting sooner than later. But
Speaker 1: that's an interesting way to approach life. Note to self,
Speaker 1: take blood pressure this afternoon. Yes, oh yeah, it's always
Speaker 1: a good idea. One final note on brain health, because
Speaker 1: during your little screen about not having contact with any
Speaker 1: human being for an entire weekend, you know, so much
Speaker 1: of what we are is neurologically pre determined, honestly, and
Speaker 1: if you're a neurological outsider or outlier, you just are.
Speaker 1: And you can, as I always say, you can operate
Speaker 1: within a certain narrowish lane of the way you're made.
Speaker 1: You can intentionally be more outgoing because you know it's
Speaker 1: good for you, blah blah blah, but you are who
Speaker 1: you are. Having said that, we were talking about handwriting
Speaker 1: and why so many states are trying to bring back
Speaker 1: handwriting incursive. I was intrigued because there wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of information in the article we had, and I was
Speaker 1: reading into it. And apparently, according to neuropsychologists, there's something
Speaker 1: about handwriting that involves all sorts of of different parts
Speaker 1: of your brain that govern language and creativity and physical
Speaker 1: stuff and whatever, and they all have to interconnect and
Speaker 1: work together to yield handwriting and it's really good for
Speaker 1: your brain. Well, I mean, it's a use it or
Speaker 1: lose it thing with your brain.
Speaker 2: I'm completely aware of that, and of just the idea
Speaker 2: of that's why journaling and that sort of stuff is
Speaker 2: so important. There's something about writing down thoughts that can
Speaker 2: get them out of your head and arrange them in
Speaker 2: ways that they don't get arranged otherwise. And people have
Speaker 2: known this for centuries and if you don't do it,
Speaker 2: you should try it. I do it every day, sometimes
Speaker 2: twice a day. But writing things down organizes them in
Speaker 2: your head or gets them out of your head, like
Speaker 2: if you got to you know, why do I keep
Speaker 2: thinking about this thing that's driving me nuts? Write it
Speaker 2: down a couple of times and it can go away.
Speaker 2: Trust me, I've done it. I don't know how many times,
Speaker 2: but I do they know that printing doesn't do the
Speaker 2: same thing as cursive because I print, I've had success
Speaker 2: with it. And that's why I just don't understand why
Speaker 2: they're bringing back cursive specifically. I really can't imagine why
Speaker 2: it would be different. I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, which doesn't mean that it's not. I
Speaker 1: just can't imagine.
Speaker 2: One question that I don't think they've answered, because I've
Speaker 2: looked into this and read some stuff about it. They're
Speaker 2: not sure if typing works the same way as I
Speaker 2: was just talking about or not, because you are picking
Speaker 2: specific letters and having to manipulate your fingers and everything
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and what about playing a musical instrument And
Speaker 1: although you can't compel a kid to play the guitar,
Speaker 1: but you can have them right in school and it's
Speaker 1: good for the brains.
Speaker 2: They've brought back. If you didn't hear us talking about this,
Speaker 2: they brought back cursive, I think down twenty two states,
Speaker 2: and I just wondered, why, what's the argument for it.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing that curse. According to the Google cursive.
Speaker 3: Engages more areas of the brain than when you print.
Speaker 2: I if that's true. It's true. I do know because
Speaker 2: I know some of these people. There's just a hanging
Speaker 2: on the cursive because I've always done it. I'm good
Speaker 2: at it, and my grandma did it. That's why that
Speaker 2: drives some of it. But if it's better for you,
Speaker 2: it's better for you, and I'm fine with that. All
Speaker 2: I know is.
Speaker 1: That the environment of the beast, the human beast, is
Speaker 1: evolving at five thousand times the speed that the beast
Speaker 1: can adapt to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably more like five hundred thousand times of speed.
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, how about five million times?
Speaker 2: But the point being, yeah, what are we going to
Speaker 2: do with that?
Speaker 1: I was hoping he'd say, yeah, how about fifty million times?
Speaker 2: Uh, And we're not even close to how fast it's
Speaker 2: going to go as soon as AI and everything kicks in.
Speaker 1: So well, we're all doomed, doomed to insanity, misery, drug addiction,
Speaker 1: public fornication.
Speaker 2: Who knows we who knows you wish public tornication? Maybe
Speaker 2: some babies would be born. So if I was one
Speaker 2: percent of the population that didn't talk to anybody over
Speaker 2: the weekend, that number will be seventy five percent here
Speaker 2: in about ten years.
Speaker 1: I think and the survivors will write that history, but
Speaker 1: not incursive because the brains have stuffed working. That's something too.
Speaker 2: Funny not to end on strong. This was actually real.
Speaker 2: Remember this promo. I never watched the show bad The
Speaker 2: most horrifying dumpy attack Heather caught on.
Speaker 1: Team That was when animals attack, right, that was in
Speaker 1: the heyday of when Big Fox went with like super
Speaker 1: pandery shows like when animals attack in celebrity boxing and stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, that would so the world's most terrifying donkey attack
Speaker 2: caught on tape, Yes, the most horrifying dumpy Heather caught
Speaker 2: on tape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not like a somewhat horrifying one of your second
Speaker 1: or third most horrifying donkey attacks. They got the mcgillo,
Speaker 1: they got the the all time champ.
Speaker 2: The most horrifying donkey attack, right, take the top five,
Speaker 2: take that other s and get it out of here.
Speaker 2: Your marginally dangerous donkey exactly somewhat horrifying donkey attacks.
Speaker 1: Oh watch that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That's also when they were doing the Man
Speaker 2: versus Beast, which I loved. That was so.
Speaker 1: Crap horrific.
Speaker 2: We're so funny. Then Michael against a shark too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was that was more reason. But Katie, this is
Speaker 2: when you were but a wee girl.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Fox Big Fox used to do some great idiotic,
Speaker 1: pandering TV shows.
Speaker 2: They had whoever was the current fastest runner raced a
Speaker 2: giraffe I think for inexplicable reasons, and a guy what
Speaker 2: did he wrestle up there? Oh, he tried to out
Speaker 2: eat It was a hot dog eating Tobyashi at the
Speaker 2: time before Joey Chestnut, the top hotdog eater in the world.
Speaker 2: Kobyashi tried to played a hot talks faster than a
Speaker 2: and the bear just like just went like golden entertainment.
Speaker 1: Oh it was, it was. It was terrible because they'd
Speaker 1: show like the only really good piece of footage to
Speaker 1: promote it and at the beginning and over and over again.
Speaker 1: Then you had to wait till the end of the
Speaker 1: show and sit through, you know, just just stupidity.
Speaker 2: Well, and the animals usually won, like just very easily
Speaker 2: as you would expect. There was some NFL linemen or
Speaker 2: some big tough guy who did a tuggle war with
Speaker 2: the Ryan Attack.
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about that one. Oh this is good stuff.
Speaker 2: Stupid show. I just remember you had the guy in
Speaker 2: the giraffe and they released him and the guys run
Speaker 2: as fast again in the giraffe just disappeared. What's the
Speaker 2: point of this? When Animals Attack was on for weeks,
Speaker 2: that was an ongoing show, right, That was the heyday
Speaker 2: of Fox. Bring that back. I think they just ran
Speaker 2: out of ideas.
Speaker 1: And sometimes they'd have real footage, but because not everybody
Speaker 1: had a cell phone at that point and ring cameras
Speaker 1: weren't omnipresent, it was a lot of reenactments, very disciplined.
Speaker 1: I don't care how good your reenactment is, it's not
Speaker 1: the same as actual footage.
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Speaker 2: Download it now, Armstrong and Getty on Demand. Conan O'Brien
Speaker 2: went to Harvard and was involved in National Lampoon there
Speaker 2: and then went on to write for The Simpsons and
Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live and have his own show. And even
Speaker 2: with all that success, I think he's more successful now
Speaker 2: at age sixty than he's ever been in his career.
Speaker 2: He just sold his podcast De Lli O to Serious
Speaker 2: XM FORO one hundred and fifty million dollars, and he's
Speaker 2: got millions of people that tune into his various works now,
Speaker 2: so good for him. Funny guy, creative guy. An interesting
Speaker 2: thing about his personality that I heard in an interview
Speaker 2: I want to bring up, but first let's hear a
Speaker 2: clip of him on The Tonight Show last night with
Speaker 2: Jimmy Fallon, first time he'd been back to The Tonight
Speaker 2: Show since he got it taken away from him back
Speaker 2: in the day.
Speaker 4: This really nice young guy in a white shirt in
Speaker 4: a baseball cap starts chatting with me, and he's saying,
Speaker 4: you know, Conan and I love the podcast, and so
Speaker 4: I really love the old late night clips. I watch
Speaker 4: him all the time, and you know, I also really
Speaker 4: like the stuff you did with the Simpsons.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, he's so nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Then we both go through the TSA thing. He goes through.
Speaker 4: I go through. I collect all my stuff, you know,
Speaker 4: the way you're kind of distracted. I put my belt on,
Speaker 4: get my shoes back on, I turn around, see the
Speaker 4: guy white shirt hat, and I go, you know what,
Speaker 4: let's do selfie. Come on, come on, do selfie. And
Speaker 4: the guy goes, okay, let's go your knucklehead, and I
Speaker 4: get I'm like in a headlock. Yeah, and he does
Speaker 4: a selfie and just as he's taking it, I look,
Speaker 4: my guy's over there. This is just a guy who's
Speaker 4: also wearing a white shirt in a baseball cap, which
Speaker 4: is pretty eff in common. So rewind that story now
Speaker 4: and see it from his point of view. He's waiting
Speaker 4: for his wife to come through. Connor O'Brien comes through
Speaker 4: and he's like, hey, Sephie, get.
Speaker 2: That I'm talking about. And I told.
Speaker 4: The guy I feel so, but you can delete it,
Speaker 4: and he was looked like he was on the fence
Speaker 4: about deleting it. I felt terrible, but I love moments
Speaker 4: like that where I'm go right back down to whatever
Speaker 4: you think you've achieved in life.
Speaker 2: Me there's a guy who thinks I met Connor O'Brian.
Speaker 4: He's just an insane a hole.
Speaker 2: That would be confusing. You're standing there, Conor Brian all
Speaker 2: of a sudden shows.
Speaker 5: Up, What what? Okay, that's a great story, Oh lord?
Speaker 5: And well told.
Speaker 1: God.
Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien flying commercial and taking off his belt and shoes.
Speaker 2: I mean, when was that or does he still do that? Maybe?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I wonder does He doesn't even
Speaker 2: ts a PreCheck. It's not that expensive, man. So one
Speaker 2: thing I want to did you so Conan O'Brien's probably
Speaker 2: really closer to your era, Katie as being the big
Speaker 2: late night king in ours? Yeah? Oh yeah, huge. I
Speaker 2: love him. I think he's hysterically funny.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 2: He is a funny, funny guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love watching his stuff where he goes out in
Speaker 3: the public and just messes with people. He's got a
Speaker 3: great series on YouTube were I think if you just
Speaker 3: type in Conan he has his own channel and it's
Speaker 3: just all this stuff of him with like Kevin Hart
Speaker 3: having the intern drive and.
Speaker 2: Just completely screwing with her the whole time. It's just wonderful. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh what another Conan. The thing is, Oh, I've
Speaker 2: heard Adam Sandler on a different podcast talking about how
Speaker 2: when Conan So, Conan was a writer there and a
Speaker 2: lot of those big stars from Sarah and Live were there,
Speaker 2: and then when Conan got his own show, they were
Speaker 2: all so excited for him because they all liked him,
Speaker 2: and Adam Sandler and David Spadeen, Chris Farlane, all those
Speaker 2: people went over to somebody's house to watch his first
Speaker 2: show because they were all so excited that he was
Speaker 2: getting his big shot to be a big deal, and uh,
Speaker 2: I need it turned out to be a big deal.
Speaker 2: And like I've mentioned a few times, he just sold
Speaker 2: his podcast for one hundred and fifty million dollars. Too serious.
Speaker 2: After all his success, so good for him. But even
Speaker 2: with all that, he was on some buddy else's show
Speaker 2: and talking about how and I think this is true
Speaker 2: for a lot of people, how no matter what has
Speaker 2: happened in his life, he's still the same guy who
Speaker 2: was in high school. When in high school he was
Speaker 2: a very awkward, not very well liked, weirdo with not
Speaker 2: very many friends. And he said he's still that, he
Speaker 2: still sees himself that way. He's still always uncomfortable. He
Speaker 2: just he said he doesn't at this point, he's sixty
Speaker 2: years old. He doesn't expect anything will ever change that. So,
Speaker 2: no level of crowds, cheering money, success, anything has changed
Speaker 2: to he was in high school and even without the
Speaker 2: crowd's money and everything like that. I feel the same
Speaker 2: way too. So why is who we were in high
Speaker 2: school baked into who we are for the rest of
Speaker 2: our lives. Whose cruel trick was that?
Speaker 1: I guess back when I would have been a cave boy,
Speaker 1: it just didn't matter. Life was so completely different for
Speaker 1: the first ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine
Speaker 1: percent of mankind's existence. It was, you know, all right, look,
Speaker 1: you're you're of breeding age, you're a fighting age, you're
Speaker 1: of tracking down a mast to done, putting a spirit
Speaker 1: of age.
Speaker 2: Let's get this done. When you're gonna be dead by
Speaker 2: age twenty four most likely. Yeah, yeah, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're searching for yourself at age forty eight as
Speaker 1: a cave man. Well that's a rarity.
Speaker 5: I just don't know who I am.
Speaker 2: I've seen it work both ways too. I've known a
Speaker 2: few people that were big deals in high school and
Speaker 2: adult life has not worked out for them that well,
Speaker 2: but they still see themselves as the big deal, and
Speaker 2: it just it's kind of weird to be around.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't I look that great for you,
Speaker 1: But okay, good for you. Well, I still got the
Speaker 1: nose in the air congrats looking good.
Speaker 3: Makes it hard to feel bad for them, though, right right, right, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't Yeah, I suppose so I don't recall
Speaker 2: running into anybody who really answered to that description recently,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I would pity them all the more. But again,
Speaker 1: I haven't rushed up against them, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: But getting back to the whole caveman thing, So I guess,
Speaker 1: you know, typical if you're going to have like a
Speaker 1: midnight a midlife crisis, or you know, what am I doing?
Speaker 1: Why am I doing this? Is this how I want
Speaker 1: to spend the rest of my life? It'd be like
Speaker 1: at age seventeen as a caveman, right right, all of
Speaker 1: this eating meat and sitting around a fire.
Speaker 2: And I wonder if that's the biggest problem, If that's
Speaker 2: the biggest problem modern humans have is our brains and
Speaker 2: consciousness just was not designed to go past like hardly
Speaker 2: past age twenty. Breed, win a battle, die next, right, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'd imagine if there were scientists fifty thousand years ago,
Speaker 2: if you were to say to them, what do you
Speaker 2: suppose happens to the brain around age eighty? They would say,
Speaker 2: what the hell are you talking about? Why do you care?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are you going to become disillusioned with life at age
Speaker 2: forty five? Forty five? Who do you know is forty five?
Speaker 1: Says the caveman, Right, yeah, yeah, And if they are, so,
Speaker 1: what if you'll excuse me, there's a tiger chewing on
Speaker 1: my leg.
Speaker 2: But if you have imposter syndrome, I would say, if
Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien still has imposter syndrome, you ain't getting rid
Speaker 2: of yours either, no matter what you achieved.
Speaker 1: That's what I learned. Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: became aware that. Well, I suppose I can go ahead
Speaker 1: and say it. My daughter, like so many of us,
Speaker 1: has a bit of that. And we are touring law
Speaker 1: school the other day and the two fabulous young women
Speaker 1: who were taking us around on the tour admitted to
Speaker 1: flaming imposters syndrome. And they're so sweet. They said, everybody
Speaker 1: has it. Everybody has it, don't worry about it. You
Speaker 1: can do this, You'll be fine. And it was great,
Speaker 1: and I think more people need to know that. I
Speaker 1: tried to teach my kids that, you.
Speaker 2: Know that feeling you're big success, Well, dad has it
Speaker 2: every day every day.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Fake it till you make it seriously.
Speaker 1: But it's hard to convince people. They think, Oh, you're
Speaker 1: just saying that to make me feel better, right. I
Speaker 1: remember an interview I saw with Paul Begala.
Speaker 2: He is one of the people that got Bill Clinton
Speaker 2: elected president, and he was talking about what was like
Speaker 2: to be at the White House and walk in there
Speaker 2: every single day, and he said, if you don't walk
Speaker 2: into the White House every day with imposter syndrome, there's
Speaker 2: something seriously wrong with you. Because everybody feels like I
Speaker 2: can't believe I'm here. Why am I here? Of all people?
Speaker 2: Me right right?
Speaker 1: I am not good enough for this, I am not
Speaker 1: important enough for this. I see the ghost of you know,
Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson standing there in the corner. Hi, Tom, did
Speaker 1: you see the game last night?
Speaker 2: So I bet again? Kind of getting to the other
Speaker 2: side of it, I feel like I have known some
Speaker 2: people who don't seem like they've ever had any self
Speaker 2: doubt one second in their lives. And are they just
Speaker 2: in it off really well or do they actually not
Speaker 2: ever have any self doubt?
Speaker 1: I think those people probably exist. Katie, your your opinion.
Speaker 1: I just think, don't think there are many.
Speaker 3: I feel like if you hmm, I feel like they're
Speaker 3: probably just hiding it. Well, it's like a natural, a
Speaker 3: natural thing for someone to feel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would guess eighty percent of the
Speaker 1: people you perceive are that way are faking it, and
Speaker 1: maybe twenty percent of those people actually have whatever genetic
Speaker 1: gift it is to be, you know, super comfortable and
Speaker 1: no impostor syndrome. I you know, I didn't really have
Speaker 1: it until I became an adult, and I get I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know either, but it's partially because I hadn't
Speaker 2: achieved anything. So what would I be an impostor about?
Speaker 2: I was just going to say.
Speaker 1: As I kept running into things that were increasingly difficult,
Speaker 1: I would think, oh boy, I could I could really
Speaker 1: fail at this? Does anybody around here realize I could
Speaker 1: completely fail at this?
Speaker 2: I still Katie because I wear a suit to work
Speaker 2: most days. I still like walking down the street in
Speaker 2: a suit. Feel like people could look at me and say,
Speaker 2: what was that guy to wearing a suit for? He's
Speaker 2: not a suit guy trying to kids about you? Right?
Speaker 2: You just could tell by looking at me that's not
Speaker 2: a guy who wears a suit kind of act.
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 2: Hey, you think he borrowed that suit or stay or
Speaker 2: someone's trying to impress.
Speaker 1: Look at the dip in the suit trying the kid right, exactly,
Speaker 1: That's what I think.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Strong and Getty show. But I
Speaker 2: mentioned the David Copperfield show that we went to the
Speaker 2: Magician and how he was working too sexy for a
Speaker 2: show with lots of kids. There lots of kids younger
Speaker 2: than my kids. Of course, the younger kids didn't get
Speaker 2: some of the jokes. But like he asked a dad,
Speaker 2: stand up, sir, here, you're your wife and your kids.
Speaker 2: When's the last time you and your wife had sex
Speaker 2: in front of their kids? Wait? What? Okay? And the
Speaker 2: last time you had it? So seven days ago? He
Speaker 2: writes down the number seven for the trick, and last
Speaker 2: time he had sex. How long did the session last?
Speaker 2: And dad says twenty minutes. But I'm not answering that
Speaker 2: question in front of my kids. It's weird.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start calling sex the session from now on,
Speaker 3: and he sam for a session, honey, a fantastic session.
Speaker 1: Maybe the rich old bastard just figures. I got one act.
Speaker 1: I'm not changing it for these bunch of rugrats. I
Speaker 1: actually told my kids that it was a thing with aging.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when people get old, they just kind of lose
Speaker 1: track of what's appropriate and what's not. Because that's true, right,
Speaker 1: and I think he might be there. You'd think some
Speaker 1: of the world's most famous performers would have figured that
Speaker 1: out by now, or had people.
Speaker 2: He's hell, he's hell old. The thing that made me
Speaker 2: laugh the hardest. And I couldn't say this on the show.
Speaker 2: It's inappropriate, and I know some of you don't like
Speaker 2: this language. So part of the deal he was he
Speaker 2: made this. It's a long drawn out story, but he's
Speaker 2: got this little Yoda baby Yoda type character or whatever,
Speaker 2: and trying to get him home. Anyway, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: we're all staring at the ceiling, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: a spaceship appears and it's floating around. He said, look
Speaker 2: at that a spaceship. That made me laugh. But anyway,
Speaker 2: so the other thing we did was we went to
Speaker 2: the sphere and that's the great big Giant ball. If
Speaker 2: you haven't heard anything about it, it got a lot
Speaker 2: of attention when it first opened because you two played there.
Speaker 2: But it's not just a concert venue. In fact, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's primarily going to be a concert venue.
Speaker 2: I think it's mostly going to be like movies and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. And so we watched this movie about
Speaker 2: planet Earth and the Big Bang, and it was an
Speaker 2: opportunity to show you oceans and mountains and deserts. And
Speaker 2: I did get a little bit uh carsick motion sickness
Speaker 2: because you're floating around all this stuff and it's so giant.
Speaker 2: It's I forget how many K it was, eighteen K
Speaker 2: screen boy, and yeah, no way, I'm going to this
Speaker 2: eighteen K screen. I mean that the vertigo of sitting
Speaker 2: like at the top of vertical stands. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 2: walking up a mountain in one hundred and seventy thousand
Speaker 2: speakers and it's really remove it all. Yes, so that's cool.
Speaker 2: So when the elephants come stomping through, the base is
Speaker 2: like unlike anything you've ever heard before. I mean even
Speaker 2: a great concert. The base is just stunning. And then
Speaker 2: the seats move too, so you get a full Like
Speaker 2: the elephants are stomping through, it's loud and you're kind
Speaker 2: of bouncing around. M It sort of sounds like sensory overload. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I got a kid with sensory issues, so he
Speaker 2: was he actually holding my hand the whole show.
Speaker 1: Yes, Joe, did the those woofers? Did they hit the
Speaker 1: brown note? The brown notice a note that all bassists
Speaker 1: know about, and that is a particular note if your
Speaker 1: amp is set up just right, that can cause people
Speaker 1: to poop themselves.
Speaker 2: But the other thing they had at the sphere, and
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this because there is an article
Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this on the radiation. Stop giggling. Look, Katie,
Speaker 1: the audience does not responding. They're a bad audience. You
Speaker 1: know what, You as the bass player, you're in charge
Speaker 1: of punishing them.
Speaker 3: I expect more, Joe.
Speaker 2: See, That's that's what's so delightful about me, you know,
Speaker 2: be so many colors, so many different.
Speaker 1: Levels of humor.
Speaker 2: Before I move on to the AI thing. Back to
Speaker 2: the Sphere show. So I'm sitting there and and I
Speaker 2: was trying to decide how I'm going to talk about
Speaker 2: this so I don't get myself in trouble with various groups.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention the group but it became
Speaker 2: clear to me that culturally, and this is another country
Speaker 2: because they don't speak English. Culturally, some people just talk
Speaker 2: through shows because they were all from a certain area
Speaker 2: of the world, and they just talked through the entire
Speaker 2: show and giving them the look. But they were just
Speaker 2: so engrossed and out loud like regular voice, not even
Speaker 2: whispering like regular voice conversation, that I thought this, this
Speaker 2: is clearly a cultural thing. This isn't a wow, This
Speaker 2: isn't a couple of rude people who need to be
Speaker 2: reminded to be quiet. They come from a part of
Speaker 2: the world where you just talk through shows. I guess
Speaker 2: so in these parts of the world that I won't
Speaker 2: mention because I don't want to get in trouble. If
Speaker 2: you go to a movie theater, is everybody just sitting
Speaker 2: there talking out loud through the whole movie? Because that's
Speaker 2: why I was happening here. You think he's gonna kiss her,
Speaker 2: I keep expecting her to kiss her.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Good on you for figures, you know, having that thought
Speaker 3: process prior to telling him to shut the hell up.
Speaker 2: Well, they wouldn't have understood me because they clearly didn't
Speaker 2: speak English. But Yeah, a couple of young couple sitting
Speaker 2: beside me, and then a couple of older people behind me,
Speaker 2: all from similar part of the world, and they just
Speaker 2: talked fully out loud the whole show, even in like
Speaker 2: super quiet parts, dramatic parts and everything like that. Just
Speaker 2: so do blas and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Weird.
Speaker 2: I guess that's just a cultural thing. In the United States,
Speaker 2: we were quiet during shows, some might say respectful of
Speaker 2: other people's experience.
Speaker 1: You know, I totally get why you did what you did.
Speaker 1: It sounds super cool. You got kids. They need to
Speaker 1: have experiences and see the world. Blah blah blah. They
Speaker 1: have been exactly when you were there doing that. Judy
Speaker 1: and I were walking through the woods taking pictures of birds,
Speaker 1: and I am so happy that that's what I was doing. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was spectacle at all.
Speaker 2: I was actually thinking watching this thing at the sphere.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure while why anybody would ever need to
Speaker 2: go anywhere or do anything. Ever again, if this becomes normal,
Speaker 2: it was the the clarity of the eighteen K screen,
Speaker 2: the sound and all encompassing. I don't know why I
Speaker 2: would need to walk inside one of those great big
Speaker 2: cathedrals in Europe. I had the full I've been to one,
Speaker 2: so I know I don't have smello vision yet. This
Speaker 2: is the first time I've ever had the awe feeling
Speaker 2: that you get from doing things in person from a screen,
Speaker 2: and I thought, I think they finally replicated the in
Speaker 2: person experience for seeing a sunset being on the ocean.
Speaker 1: What interesting.
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: You are are famously hard of smelling, heard of tasting.
Speaker 1: You don't taste things normally, okay.
Speaker 2: Which I think has to do with zero factory center
Speaker 2: in your brain or something like that.
Speaker 1: I disagree. You've got to have the smell, you've got
Speaker 1: to have the humidity, You've got to have the feeling
Speaker 1: of the air in a place interesting to really experience it.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So I read the mustiness of an old church,
Speaker 2: even the dusty. Yes, the smell of the hymnals Thanks
Speaker 2: get pretty musty after a session day.
Speaker 1: Am I talking in this voice? I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: going to ignore that attempted humor.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and get shall