1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: This is the Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our podcast 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: one more Thing, get it wherever you like to get podcasts. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Reminds me for some reason, you saying that Katie when 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: I was single and childless. Thank you. What is her name, Gladys? 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: I want to sorry, Gladys. I want to call her Lola. 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: For some reason, Lola doesn't play the harp. Thank you, 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Gladys for laying the harp of me reminiscing about something 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: when I was a single and childless. There were a 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: few weekends where I would realize on Monday morning, as 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm driving to work to do the radio show, that 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: I hadn't said a word since I left work on Friday, 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: because I hadn't interacted with another human being at all. 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: I just saidn't a word to anybody. Hmmm. I don't 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: really know what to say to that. 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: What percentage of the population can make that same claim 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: I did not interact with another human being the entire weekend, 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: did not speak a word. It's fairly limited, I would guess, 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: but you know you do you what would you guess? 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: And if you as angry hermit. 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: I would guess that both my brothers have done it. 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: Semi regularly recently with their kids older and out of 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: the house, Like not even a phone call, Like that's bizarre. 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: Nobody talks on the phone. And I don't know if 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: that's a good example. Now back in the day, No, 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: we're talking back in the day. 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you had Gladys play the damn harp, then 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: you called her Lola, and now we're in the present day. 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: On what's going on here? 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: Somebody explained the crowd roles. Have we all lost. 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: What does Walter say in The Big Lebowski something about it? 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: We all lost our minds? Nobody cares about the rules anymore. 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: How much of an outliar do you think I am? 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: You think I'm in the one percent of the population 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: that has ever done that? Or it's fewer than five 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: five pretty small. 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: No, it's not five. It's one to one to two 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: and a half. 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: I don't think it's probably good for you. I also 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: had to do with like, like, you know, I have 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: a really big Friday night, maybe a long watching movies 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: or something, and you don't feel so good on Saturday, 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: maybe part of Sunday. You just don't leave the house. 43 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: You order a pizza. You know, it might be an 44 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: exaggeration to have not said a word to anybody. Might 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: have said thanks to the pizza guy when he handed 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: me to pizza, but it wouldn't have been more than 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: a couple of words. 48 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: Oh, in this day and age, even with phones, I've 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: done that where you take the recovery day, you turn 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: the phone off. 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So think about this though. The younger crowd 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: now with their lifestyle, like you know our producer Sean 53 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: or whatever, I'll but he had weekends where he never 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: said a word to anybody other than through maybe a 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: headset playing video games or a number of young people. 56 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: Now that you know you can DoorDash or whatever, you 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: don't have to call anybody to order food or something. Ill, 58 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 2: but it happens more often than you think. It'd still 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: be a small number. It makes me sad. All I 60 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: know is we're moving more than that direction then away 61 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: from it, I would guess. 62 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Which is good. You can see all the statistics on 63 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: how happy and care free young people are these days. 64 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I ever came out of a 65 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 2: weekend like thinking that was like a really good time, 66 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: or what an awesome weekend that was, or something I'm 67 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: not claiming that see. 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: And I'm of the day and age of cell phones 69 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: and whatnot, and it's amazing the hoops I will jump 70 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: through to avoid having to talk to somebody else. Yeah, 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: like you know, scheduling appointments online, ordering online, all that stuff. 72 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: I would much rather do that than have to call 73 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 3: and interact with someone. 74 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I avoid it now, not because I don't want 75 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: to talk to it. If I thought I could talk 76 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: to human being, i'd call right away. I don't want 77 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: to call and get your impossible to use automated phone 78 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: system that takes me twenty minutes and doesn't work. I'll 79 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: see if I can do it online. And the reason 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: it takes twenty minutes and doesn't work is because you 81 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: want me to do it online because it's the cheapest 82 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: thing for you. But that's a different topic. A couple 83 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: of quick things here. I just came across this. Don't 84 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: usually talk about this sort of thing on this podcast. 85 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: This money circulating in US is expanding rapidly. We have 86 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: a money supply surge going on right now. It's the 87 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: highest level in over a year. They think that will 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: likely lead to inflation surging higher. Don't like that story. 89 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: It ought to if the laws of monetary physics are 90 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: still true, and they are. 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: And then this one. This is an actual survey. This 92 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: isn't one of those done by According to walkintubs dot com, 93 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: older people always look at who paid for the survey. 94 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: A lot of time surveys have just the crap because 95 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: of who they paid for. This is actual research done 96 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: by a team of German researches in Germany and the 97 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: United States Journal of Psychology. Stuff about how what where 98 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: we think old age begins has been moving higher. This 99 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: is not surprising at all. Last lie, that's when do 100 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: you think old age began for you? Yes? Absolutely, last time. 101 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: I feel like I screwed up my back. 102 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: Oh really it started the shuffling like I'm ninety and 103 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: it's a lot better now. 104 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: But that ill, that has a lot to do with it, 105 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: because I was gonna mention my mom and dad have 106 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: different numbers on that, and for those reasons, my mom's 107 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: physical health is not near where my dad's is. So 108 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what she would say, but she would 109 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: probably say old age starts. Well, I can tell you 110 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: the average now is seventy five. If you actually ask 111 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: a senior, when does old age begin? It's now seventy five. 112 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: Seventy five is the new sixty five, because it used 113 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: to be not that many years ago. People said old 114 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: age started at sixty five. Now that would seem kind 115 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: of crazy, I think for a lot of people. Yea, 116 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: for me, it started at forty eight. That when you 117 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: start hurting yourself, you know, just doing the most basic 118 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: things like walking or something. Yeah. I was just in 119 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: the lunch room in one of the saleswomen who is 120 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: now in her forties, was talking about all forties or 121 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: not what I thought they would be talking about trying 122 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: to work out, and she keeps getting hurt and blah 123 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: blah blah. Yeah, but so now it's seventy five is 124 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: both sixty five. My dad says eighty eighties when old 125 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: age starts, but that's because he was still riding his 126 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: horse up till eighty two. My mom has not been 127 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: as physically as gifted as him and would put it 128 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: a little earlier, but probably about surprisingly. 129 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: The horse was seventy five. What it's an old horse, 130 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: shoe horse? 131 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: When are you going to get off of me? That 132 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: is the question. When do I have when do I 133 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: get to be an old age? That do only makes sense. 134 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: I suppose life expectancy and help. But my mom regularly 135 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: says when she was a kid, people in their sixties 136 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: were considered old. You that you were done with life 137 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: in your sixties. Nobody would have thought you played golf 138 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: or rode a horse or rode bikes or vacationed or 139 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: anything in your sixties. 140 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: You were just like a new career. 141 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: You were just in a rocking chair in your sixties, 142 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: which now, of course, seems crazy. You're the youngest amongst 143 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: Katie and he thoughts on this or does everything over 144 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: the age of forty five just seem ancient to you? 145 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: No, both my parent parents are in their early to 146 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: mid seventies, and they're both young as can be, So 147 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: I don't even think seventy five is old in my perspective. 148 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: And I, dude, everything started hurting on me last year. 149 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: And I had a stroke when I was thirty one, 150 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: so I'm ninety. 151 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: That's why we get along, so I had all better. 152 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: Having a stroke at thirty one would change your view 153 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: of it. I didn't have any health situation really at 154 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: all until I got cancer at forty nine. But dude, 155 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: my health went nuts at twenty nine. 156 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: A kidney problem came up out of nowhere a quote 157 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: mutated gene. I have a hereditary condition that is a 158 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: mutated gene because nobody else in my family has it. 159 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: And then I stroked out in twenty twenty. It was wild, 160 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: have no idea what caused that the stroke? Yeah, well 161 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: it was a mixture of not taking care of myself 162 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: in stress. Okay, they said, oh really, but some of 163 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: it was in your control. Yeah, I just I wasn't 164 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: exercising at all. Obese big time? 165 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: Were you really? I can't picture you obese at all? 166 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: Two hundred and ten pounds? Were you really? This is 167 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: new information, so that that's why you're always talking about 168 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: working out and you eat so healthy. Yeah, I had 169 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: I had to make a change. 170 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: The doctors were like, this you do They actually call 171 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: said that I dodged a bullet because I had three 172 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: tias over the course. 173 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: Of a week. 174 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well it'll get your attention, want it? 175 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Huge? Kind of like what I mean. 176 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: Michael Angelo had had the big shock diabetes diagnosis and 177 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: had to make a complete change on his life. 178 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: Eye opening. That's why I've been saying for a long 179 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: time that I'd like to have a minor heart attack. 180 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I think a minor heart attack would 181 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: get my attention and I wouldn't need donuts and stuff anymore. 182 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: I don't want a major heart attack and don't want 183 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: to die. I got kids to raise. But I think 184 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: a minor heart attack just a little a huh, like 185 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: flicking my ear huh. Wake up. 186 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: Well, good luck with that plan. That's between you and 187 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: the almighty, who you'll be meeting sooner than later. But 188 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: that's an interesting way to approach life. Note to self, 189 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: take blood pressure this afternoon. Yes, oh yeah, it's always 190 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: a good idea. One final note on brain health, because 191 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: during your little screen about not having contact with any 192 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: human being for an entire weekend, you know, so much 193 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: of what we are is neurologically pre determined, honestly, and 194 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: if you're a neurological outsider or outlier, you just are. 195 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: And you can, as I always say, you can operate 196 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: within a certain narrowish lane of the way you're made. 197 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: You can intentionally be more outgoing because you know it's 198 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: good for you, blah blah blah, but you are who 199 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: you are. Having said that, we were talking about handwriting 200 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: and why so many states are trying to bring back 201 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: handwriting incursive. I was intrigued because there wasn't a lot 202 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: of information in the article we had, and I was 203 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: reading into it. And apparently, according to neuropsychologists, there's something 204 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: about handwriting that involves all sorts of of different parts 205 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: of your brain that govern language and creativity and physical 206 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: stuff and whatever, and they all have to interconnect and 207 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: work together to yield handwriting and it's really good for 208 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: your brain. Well, I mean, it's a use it or 209 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: lose it thing with your brain. 210 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: I'm completely aware of that, and of just the idea 211 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: of that's why journaling and that sort of stuff is 212 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: so important. There's something about writing down thoughts that can 213 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: get them out of your head and arrange them in 214 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: ways that they don't get arranged otherwise. And people have 215 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: known this for centuries and if you don't do it, 216 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: you should try it. I do it every day, sometimes 217 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: twice a day. But writing things down organizes them in 218 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: your head or gets them out of your head, like 219 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 2: if you got to you know, why do I keep 220 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: thinking about this thing that's driving me nuts? Write it 221 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: down a couple of times and it can go away. 222 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: Trust me, I've done it. I don't know how many times, 223 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: but I do they know that printing doesn't do the 224 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: same thing as cursive because I print, I've had success 225 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: with it. And that's why I just don't understand why 226 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: they're bringing back cursive specifically. I really can't imagine why 227 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: it would be different. I can't. 228 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, which doesn't mean that it's not. I 229 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: just can't imagine. 230 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: One question that I don't think they've answered, because I've 231 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: looked into this and read some stuff about it. They're 232 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: not sure if typing works the same way as I 233 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: was just talking about or not, because you are picking 234 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: specific letters and having to manipulate your fingers and everything 235 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: like that. 236 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and what about playing a musical instrument And 237 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: although you can't compel a kid to play the guitar, 238 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: but you can have them right in school and it's 239 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: good for the brains. 240 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: They've brought back. If you didn't hear us talking about this, 241 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: they brought back cursive, I think down twenty two states, 242 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: and I just wondered, why, what's the argument for it. 243 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: I'm seeing that curse. According to the Google cursive. 244 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: Engages more areas of the brain than when you print. 245 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: I if that's true. It's true. I do know because 246 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 2: I know some of these people. There's just a hanging 247 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: on the cursive because I've always done it. I'm good 248 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: at it, and my grandma did it. That's why that 249 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: drives some of it. But if it's better for you, 250 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: it's better for you, and I'm fine with that. All 251 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: I know is. 252 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: That the environment of the beast, the human beast, is 253 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: evolving at five thousand times the speed that the beast 254 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: can adapt to it. 255 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably more like five hundred thousand times of speed. 256 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, how about five million times? 257 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: But the point being, yeah, what are we going to 258 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: do with that? 259 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: I was hoping he'd say, yeah, how about fifty million times? 260 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 2: Uh, And we're not even close to how fast it's 261 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: going to go as soon as AI and everything kicks in. 262 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: So well, we're all doomed, doomed to insanity, misery, drug addiction, 263 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: public fornication. 264 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: Who knows we who knows you wish public tornication? Maybe 265 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: some babies would be born. So if I was one 266 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: percent of the population that didn't talk to anybody over 267 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: the weekend, that number will be seventy five percent here 268 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: in about ten years. 269 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I think and the survivors will write that history, but 270 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: not incursive because the brains have stuffed working. That's something too. 271 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: Funny not to end on strong. This was actually real. 272 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: Remember this promo. I never watched the show bad The 273 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: most horrifying dumpy attack Heather caught on. 274 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: Team That was when animals attack, right, that was in 275 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: the heyday of when Big Fox went with like super 276 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: pandery shows like when animals attack in celebrity boxing and stuff. 277 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: Well, that would so the world's most terrifying donkey attack 278 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: caught on tape, Yes, the most horrifying dumpy Heather caught 279 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: on tape. 280 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, not like a somewhat horrifying one of your second 281 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: or third most horrifying donkey attacks. They got the mcgillo, 282 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: they got the the all time champ. 283 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 2: The most horrifying donkey attack, right, take the top five, 284 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 2: take that other s and get it out of here. 285 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: Your marginally dangerous donkey exactly somewhat horrifying donkey attacks. 286 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: Oh watch that. 287 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That's also when they were doing the Man 288 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: versus Beast, which I loved. That was so. 289 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: Crap horrific. 290 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: We're so funny. Then Michael against a shark too. Yeah, 291 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: that was that was more reason. But Katie, this is 292 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: when you were but a wee girl. 293 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, Fox Big Fox used to do some great idiotic, 294 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: pandering TV shows. 295 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: They had whoever was the current fastest runner raced a 296 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: giraffe I think for inexplicable reasons, and a guy what 297 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: did he wrestle up there? Oh, he tried to out 298 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: eat It was a hot dog eating Tobyashi at the 299 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: time before Joey Chestnut, the top hotdog eater in the world. 300 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: Kobyashi tried to played a hot talks faster than a 301 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: and the bear just like just went like golden entertainment. 302 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: Oh it was, it was. It was terrible because they'd 303 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: show like the only really good piece of footage to 304 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: promote it and at the beginning and over and over again. 305 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: Then you had to wait till the end of the 306 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: show and sit through, you know, just just stupidity. 307 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: Well, and the animals usually won, like just very easily 308 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: as you would expect. There was some NFL linemen or 309 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: some big tough guy who did a tuggle war with 310 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: the Ryan Attack. 311 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about that one. Oh this is good stuff. 312 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: Stupid show. I just remember you had the guy in 313 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: the giraffe and they released him and the guys run 314 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: as fast again in the giraffe just disappeared. What's the 315 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: point of this? When Animals Attack was on for weeks, 316 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: that was an ongoing show, right, That was the heyday 317 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: of Fox. Bring that back. I think they just ran 318 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: out of ideas. 319 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: And sometimes they'd have real footage, but because not everybody 320 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: had a cell phone at that point and ring cameras 321 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: weren't omnipresent, it was a lot of reenactments, very disciplined. 322 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't care how good your reenactment is, it's not 323 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: the same as actual footage. 324 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: So quick question for you, what if you happen to 325 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: miss this unbelievable radio program. 326 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: The answer is easy, friends, just download our podcast, Armstrong 327 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: and Getty on demand. It's the podcast version of the 328 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: broadcast show, available anytime, any day, every single podcast platform 329 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: known demand. 330 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: Download it now, Armstrong and Getty on Demand. Conan O'Brien 331 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: went to Harvard and was involved in National Lampoon there 332 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: and then went on to write for The Simpsons and 333 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live and have his own show. And even 334 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 2: with all that success, I think he's more successful now 335 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 2: at age sixty than he's ever been in his career. 336 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: He just sold his podcast De Lli O to Serious 337 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: XM FORO one hundred and fifty million dollars, and he's 338 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: got millions of people that tune into his various works now, 339 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: so good for him. Funny guy, creative guy. An interesting 340 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: thing about his personality that I heard in an interview 341 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: I want to bring up, but first let's hear a 342 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: clip of him on The Tonight Show last night with 343 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: Jimmy Fallon, first time he'd been back to The Tonight 344 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: Show since he got it taken away from him back 345 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: in the day. 346 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: This really nice young guy in a white shirt in 347 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 4: a baseball cap starts chatting with me, and he's saying, 348 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: you know, Conan and I love the podcast, and so 349 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: I really love the old late night clips. I watch 350 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: him all the time, and you know, I also really 351 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: like the stuff you did with the Simpsons. 352 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, he's so nice. 353 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying, thank you so much. 354 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: Then we both go through the TSA thing. He goes through. 355 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 4: I go through. I collect all my stuff, you know, 356 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 4: the way you're kind of distracted. I put my belt on, 357 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: get my shoes back on, I turn around, see the 358 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 4: guy white shirt hat, and I go, you know what, 359 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: let's do selfie. Come on, come on, do selfie. And 360 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 4: the guy goes, okay, let's go your knucklehead, and I 361 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 4: get I'm like in a headlock. Yeah, and he does 362 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: a selfie and just as he's taking it, I look, 363 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 4: my guy's over there. This is just a guy who's 364 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 4: also wearing a white shirt in a baseball cap, which 365 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 4: is pretty eff in common. So rewind that story now 366 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: and see it from his point of view. He's waiting 367 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: for his wife to come through. Connor O'Brien comes through 368 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 4: and he's like, hey, Sephie, get. 369 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: That I'm talking about. And I told. 370 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 4: The guy I feel so, but you can delete it, 371 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 4: and he was looked like he was on the fence 372 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 4: about deleting it. I felt terrible, but I love moments 373 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: like that where I'm go right back down to whatever 374 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: you think you've achieved in life. 375 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: Me there's a guy who thinks I met Connor O'Brian. 376 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: He's just an insane a hole. 377 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: That would be confusing. You're standing there, Conor Brian all 378 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: of a sudden shows. 379 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 5: Up, What what? Okay, that's a great story, Oh lord? 380 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 5: And well told. 381 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: God. 382 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien flying commercial and taking off his belt and shoes. 383 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: I mean, when was that or does he still do that? Maybe? 384 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I wonder does He doesn't even 385 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 2: ts a PreCheck. It's not that expensive, man. So one 386 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: thing I want to did you so Conan O'Brien's probably 387 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: really closer to your era, Katie as being the big 388 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: late night king in ours? Yeah? Oh yeah, huge. I 389 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: love him. I think he's hysterically funny. 390 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 4: He is. 391 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: He is a funny, funny guy. Yeah. 392 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 393 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: I love watching his stuff where he goes out in 394 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: the public and just messes with people. He's got a 395 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: great series on YouTube were I think if you just 396 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: type in Conan he has his own channel and it's 397 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 3: just all this stuff of him with like Kevin Hart 398 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: having the intern drive and. 399 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: Just completely screwing with her the whole time. It's just wonderful. Yeah, 400 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: and uh what another Conan. The thing is, Oh, I've 401 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 2: heard Adam Sandler on a different podcast talking about how 402 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: when Conan So, Conan was a writer there and a 403 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: lot of those big stars from Sarah and Live were there, 404 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: and then when Conan got his own show, they were 405 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: all so excited for him because they all liked him, 406 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: and Adam Sandler and David Spadeen, Chris Farlane, all those 407 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: people went over to somebody's house to watch his first 408 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: show because they were all so excited that he was 409 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: getting his big shot to be a big deal, and uh, 410 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: I need it turned out to be a big deal. 411 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: And like I've mentioned a few times, he just sold 412 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: his podcast for one hundred and fifty million dollars. Too serious. 413 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: After all his success, so good for him. But even 414 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: with all that, he was on some buddy else's show 415 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: and talking about how and I think this is true 416 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: for a lot of people, how no matter what has 417 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 2: happened in his life, he's still the same guy who 418 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: was in high school. When in high school he was 419 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: a very awkward, not very well liked, weirdo with not 420 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: very many friends. And he said he's still that, he 421 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: still sees himself that way. He's still always uncomfortable. He 422 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: just he said he doesn't at this point, he's sixty 423 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: years old. He doesn't expect anything will ever change that. So, 424 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: no level of crowds, cheering money, success, anything has changed 425 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: to he was in high school and even without the 426 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: crowd's money and everything like that. I feel the same 427 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: way too. So why is who we were in high 428 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: school baked into who we are for the rest of 429 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: our lives. Whose cruel trick was that? 430 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: I guess back when I would have been a cave boy, 431 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: it just didn't matter. Life was so completely different for 432 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: the first ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine 433 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: percent of mankind's existence. It was, you know, all right, look, 434 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: you're you're of breeding age, you're a fighting age, you're 435 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: of tracking down a mast to done, putting a spirit 436 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: of age. 437 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 2: Let's get this done. When you're gonna be dead by 438 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: age twenty four most likely. Yeah, yeah, so it didn't matter. 439 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're searching for yourself at age forty eight as 440 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: a cave man. Well that's a rarity. 441 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 5: I just don't know who I am. 442 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: I've seen it work both ways too. I've known a 443 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: few people that were big deals in high school and 444 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: adult life has not worked out for them that well, 445 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: but they still see themselves as the big deal, and 446 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: it just it's kind of weird to be around. 447 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: You know, you don't I look that great for you, 448 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: But okay, good for you. Well, I still got the 449 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: nose in the air congrats looking good. 450 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: Makes it hard to feel bad for them, though, right right, right, right? 451 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't Yeah, I suppose so I don't recall 452 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: running into anybody who really answered to that description recently, 453 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. 454 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: I think I would pity them all the more. But again, 455 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: I haven't rushed up against them, so I don't know. 456 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: But getting back to the whole caveman thing, So I guess, 457 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, typical if you're going to have like a 458 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: midnight a midlife crisis, or you know, what am I doing? 459 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: Why am I doing this? Is this how I want 460 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: to spend the rest of my life? It'd be like 461 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: at age seventeen as a caveman, right right, all of 462 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: this eating meat and sitting around a fire. 463 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: And I wonder if that's the biggest problem, If that's 464 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: the biggest problem modern humans have is our brains and 465 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: consciousness just was not designed to go past like hardly 466 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: past age twenty. Breed, win a battle, die next, right, right, Yeah. 467 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: And I'd imagine if there were scientists fifty thousand years ago, 468 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: if you were to say to them, what do you 469 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: suppose happens to the brain around age eighty? They would say, 470 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: what the hell are you talking about? Why do you care? 471 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? 472 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: Are you going to become disillusioned with life at age 473 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: forty five? Forty five? Who do you know is forty five? 474 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: Says the caveman, Right, yeah, yeah, And if they are, so, 475 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: what if you'll excuse me, there's a tiger chewing on 476 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: my leg. 477 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: But if you have imposter syndrome, I would say, if 478 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien still has imposter syndrome, you ain't getting rid 479 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: of yours either, no matter what you achieved. 480 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: That's what I learned. Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I 481 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: became aware that. Well, I suppose I can go ahead 482 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: and say it. My daughter, like so many of us, 483 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: has a bit of that. And we are touring law 484 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: school the other day and the two fabulous young women 485 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: who were taking us around on the tour admitted to 486 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: flaming imposters syndrome. And they're so sweet. They said, everybody 487 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: has it. Everybody has it, don't worry about it. You 488 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: can do this, You'll be fine. And it was great, 489 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: and I think more people need to know that. I 490 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: tried to teach my kids that, you. 491 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: Know that feeling you're big success, Well, dad has it 492 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: every day every day. 493 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Fake it till you make it seriously. 494 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: But it's hard to convince people. They think, Oh, you're 495 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: just saying that to make me feel better, right. I 496 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: remember an interview I saw with Paul Begala. 497 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: He is one of the people that got Bill Clinton 498 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: elected president, and he was talking about what was like 499 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: to be at the White House and walk in there 500 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: every single day, and he said, if you don't walk 501 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: into the White House every day with imposter syndrome, there's 502 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: something seriously wrong with you. Because everybody feels like I 503 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: can't believe I'm here. Why am I here? Of all people? 504 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: Me right right? 505 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: I am not good enough for this, I am not 506 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: important enough for this. I see the ghost of you know, 507 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson standing there in the corner. Hi, Tom, did 508 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: you see the game last night? 509 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: So I bet again? Kind of getting to the other 510 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: side of it, I feel like I have known some 511 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: people who don't seem like they've ever had any self 512 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: doubt one second in their lives. And are they just 513 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: in it off really well or do they actually not 514 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: ever have any self doubt? 515 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: I think those people probably exist. Katie, your your opinion. 516 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: I just think, don't think there are many. 517 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: I feel like if you hmm, I feel like they're 518 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 3: probably just hiding it. Well, it's like a natural, a 519 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: natural thing for someone to feel. 520 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would guess eighty percent of the 521 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: people you perceive are that way are faking it, and 522 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: maybe twenty percent of those people actually have whatever genetic 523 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: gift it is to be, you know, super comfortable and 524 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: no impostor syndrome. I you know, I didn't really have 525 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: it until I became an adult, and I get I 526 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: don't know. 527 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: I don't know either, but it's partially because I hadn't 528 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 2: achieved anything. So what would I be an impostor about? 529 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: I was just going to say. 530 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: As I kept running into things that were increasingly difficult, 531 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: I would think, oh boy, I could I could really 532 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: fail at this? Does anybody around here realize I could 533 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: completely fail at this? 534 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 2: I still Katie because I wear a suit to work 535 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: most days. I still like walking down the street in 536 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 2: a suit. Feel like people could look at me and say, 537 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: what was that guy to wearing a suit for? He's 538 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: not a suit guy trying to kids about you? Right? 539 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: You just could tell by looking at me that's not 540 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: a guy who wears a suit kind of act. 541 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 5: Is that? 542 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: Hey, you think he borrowed that suit or stay or 543 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: someone's trying to impress. 544 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: Look at the dip in the suit trying the kid right, exactly, 545 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: That's what I think. 546 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Strong and Getty show. But I 547 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 2: mentioned the David Copperfield show that we went to the 548 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: Magician and how he was working too sexy for a 549 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: show with lots of kids. There lots of kids younger 550 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: than my kids. Of course, the younger kids didn't get 551 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: some of the jokes. But like he asked a dad, 552 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: stand up, sir, here, you're your wife and your kids. 553 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: When's the last time you and your wife had sex 554 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: in front of their kids? Wait? What? Okay? And the 555 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: last time you had it? So seven days ago? He 556 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: writes down the number seven for the trick, and last 557 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: time he had sex. How long did the session last? 558 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: And dad says twenty minutes. But I'm not answering that 559 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 2: question in front of my kids. It's weird. 560 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start calling sex the session from now on, 561 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: and he sam for a session, honey, a fantastic session. 562 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the rich old bastard just figures. I got one act. 563 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm not changing it for these bunch of rugrats. I 564 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: actually told my kids that it was a thing with aging. 565 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes when people get old, they just kind of lose 566 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: track of what's appropriate and what's not. Because that's true, right, 567 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: and I think he might be there. You'd think some 568 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: of the world's most famous performers would have figured that 569 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: out by now, or had people. 570 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: He's hell, he's hell old. The thing that made me 571 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: laugh the hardest. And I couldn't say this on the show. 572 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: It's inappropriate, and I know some of you don't like 573 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: this language. So part of the deal he was he 574 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: made this. It's a long drawn out story, but he's 575 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: got this little Yoda baby Yoda type character or whatever, 576 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: and trying to get him home. Anyway, all of a sudden, 577 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: we're all staring at the ceiling, and all of a sudden, 578 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: a spaceship appears and it's floating around. He said, look 579 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: at that a spaceship. That made me laugh. But anyway, 580 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: so the other thing we did was we went to 581 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: the sphere and that's the great big Giant ball. If 582 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: you haven't heard anything about it, it got a lot 583 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: of attention when it first opened because you two played there. 584 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: But it's not just a concert venue. In fact, I 585 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: don't think it's primarily going to be a concert venue. 586 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: I think it's mostly going to be like movies and 587 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: stuff like that. And so we watched this movie about 588 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: planet Earth and the Big Bang, and it was an 589 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: opportunity to show you oceans and mountains and deserts. And 590 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: I did get a little bit uh carsick motion sickness 591 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: because you're floating around all this stuff and it's so giant. 592 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: It's I forget how many K it was, eighteen K 593 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: screen boy, and yeah, no way, I'm going to this 594 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: eighteen K screen. I mean that the vertigo of sitting 595 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: like at the top of vertical stands. Yeah, it's like 596 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: walking up a mountain in one hundred and seventy thousand 597 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: speakers and it's really remove it all. Yes, so that's cool. 598 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: So when the elephants come stomping through, the base is 599 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: like unlike anything you've ever heard before. I mean even 600 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: a great concert. The base is just stunning. And then 601 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: the seats move too, so you get a full Like 602 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: the elephants are stomping through, it's loud and you're kind 603 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: of bouncing around. M It sort of sounds like sensory overload. Yeah. Yeah, 604 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: And I got a kid with sensory issues, so he 605 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: was he actually holding my hand the whole show. 606 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: Yes, Joe, did the those woofers? Did they hit the 607 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: brown note? The brown notice a note that all bassists 608 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: know about, and that is a particular note if your 609 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: amp is set up just right, that can cause people 610 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: to poop themselves. 611 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: But the other thing they had at the sphere, and 612 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this because there is an article 613 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal. 614 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about this on the radiation. Stop giggling. Look, Katie, 615 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: the audience does not responding. They're a bad audience. You 616 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: know what, You as the bass player, you're in charge 617 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: of punishing them. 618 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: I expect more, Joe. 619 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: See, That's that's what's so delightful about me, you know, 620 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: be so many colors, so many different. 621 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: Levels of humor. 622 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: Before I move on to the AI thing. Back to 623 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: the Sphere show. So I'm sitting there and and I 624 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: was trying to decide how I'm going to talk about 625 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: this so I don't get myself in trouble with various groups. 626 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention the group but it became 627 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: clear to me that culturally, and this is another country 628 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: because they don't speak English. Culturally, some people just talk 629 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: through shows because they were all from a certain area 630 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: of the world, and they just talked through the entire 631 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: show and giving them the look. But they were just 632 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: so engrossed and out loud like regular voice, not even 633 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: whispering like regular voice conversation, that I thought this, this 634 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: is clearly a cultural thing. This isn't a wow, This 635 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: isn't a couple of rude people who need to be 636 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: reminded to be quiet. They come from a part of 637 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: the world where you just talk through shows. I guess 638 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: so in these parts of the world that I won't 639 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: mention because I don't want to get in trouble. If 640 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: you go to a movie theater, is everybody just sitting 641 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: there talking out loud through the whole movie? Because that's 642 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: why I was happening here. You think he's gonna kiss her, 643 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: I keep expecting her to kiss her. 644 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. 645 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: Good on you for figures, you know, having that thought 646 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: process prior to telling him to shut the hell up. 647 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: Well, they wouldn't have understood me because they clearly didn't 648 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: speak English. But Yeah, a couple of young couple sitting 649 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: beside me, and then a couple of older people behind me, 650 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: all from similar part of the world, and they just 651 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: talked fully out loud the whole show, even in like 652 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: super quiet parts, dramatic parts and everything like that. Just 653 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: so do blas and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Weird. 654 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: I guess that's just a cultural thing. In the United States, 655 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: we were quiet during shows, some might say respectful of 656 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: other people's experience. 657 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: You know, I totally get why you did what you did. 658 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: It sounds super cool. You got kids. They need to 659 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: have experiences and see the world. Blah blah blah. They 660 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: have been exactly when you were there doing that. Judy 661 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: and I were walking through the woods taking pictures of birds, 662 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: and I am so happy that that's what I was doing. Yes, 663 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: I was spectacle at all. 664 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: I was actually thinking watching this thing at the sphere. 665 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure while why anybody would ever need to 666 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: go anywhere or do anything. Ever again, if this becomes normal, 667 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: it was the the clarity of the eighteen K screen, 668 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: the sound and all encompassing. I don't know why I 669 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: would need to walk inside one of those great big 670 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: cathedrals in Europe. I had the full I've been to one, 671 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: so I know I don't have smello vision yet. This 672 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: is the first time I've ever had the awe feeling 673 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: that you get from doing things in person from a screen, 674 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: and I thought, I think they finally replicated the in 675 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 2: person experience for seeing a sunset being on the ocean. 676 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: What interesting. 677 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 4: Now? 678 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: You are are famously hard of smelling, heard of tasting. 679 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: You don't taste things normally, okay. 680 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: Which I think has to do with zero factory center 681 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: in your brain or something like that. 682 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: I disagree. You've got to have the smell, you've got 683 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: to have the humidity, You've got to have the feeling 684 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: of the air in a place interesting to really experience it. 685 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: Anyway, So I read the mustiness of an old church, 686 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: even the dusty. Yes, the smell of the hymnals Thanks 687 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: get pretty musty after a session day. 688 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: Am I talking in this voice? I don't know. I'm 689 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: going to ignore that attempted humor. 690 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and get shall