WEBVTT - 8/3/26: Trump Backs Down On Iran Strikes, US Forced Out Of Iraq, Munitions Run Low Amid War

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, everybody, Happy Monday. I have an amazing show

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed we do.

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<v Speaker 2>The Taco cycle continues on Iran. Trump backs down after

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<v Speaker 2>making a series of extraordinary threats.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop me if you've heard this one before.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll break down the very latest here. Meanwhile, Top brass

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<v Speaker 2>in military warning that we can choose. We can either

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<v Speaker 2>protect Israel or we can protect the homeland. So that

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<v Speaker 2>seems great. This comes as US four versus are withdrawing

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<v Speaker 2>from a rock and a series of warnings have gone

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<v Speaker 2>out to embassies across the region. Connerson Max Miller is

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<v Speaker 2>down and trying to defend himself. It appears that the

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<v Speaker 2>US and Israel may have been behind a hybrid war

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<v Speaker 4>We'll show you all the evidence.

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<v Speaker 3>But as Crystal said, let's go ahead and begin with

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<v Speaker 3>Taco Sunday of what we saw. Let's put a one

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<v Speaker 3>up here on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>The USA is locked and loaded, ready to go against

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<v Speaker 3>the Islamic Republic of Iran at levels of military terror,

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<v Speaker 3>strength and power not.

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<v Speaker 1>Seen since World War Two.

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<v Speaker 3>Despite this, we have just been asked by Iran and

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<v Speaker 3>other Middle Eastern countries to hold off any attack in

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<v Speaker 3>that the parameters of a deal has been agreed to.

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<v Speaker 3>This would include the immediate, complete and total opening of

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<v Speaker 3>the Horne moves straight and an end to Iran's nuclear threat.

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<v Speaker 3>On this request, I have agreed, for the future benefit

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<v Speaker 3>of the world and likewise the survival of a successful

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<v Speaker 3>and prosperous Iran, to cancel the attack subject to being

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<v Speaker 3>able to rapidly make a deal. The country of Israel

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<v Speaker 3>joins me in this commitment. Get to work, everybody, get

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<v Speaker 3>it done. Thank you for your attention to this matter,

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<v Speaker 3>President Donald J.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>So this comes on the heels of some leakage that

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<v Speaker 3>came out of the White House. What we can now

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<v Speaker 3>very clearly see was an op President Trump met on

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<v Speaker 3>Friday with his entire cabinet in which he convened a

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<v Speaker 3>big meeting about Iran. And in that meeting, what immediately

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<v Speaker 3>came out and leaks to Axio, CBS News and otherwise

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<v Speaker 3>was the US was planning a massive attack on Iran's

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<v Speaker 3>energy infrastructure in conjunction with the nation of Israel. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>immediately many people said, well, you know, if you were

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<v Speaker 3>going to do a big attack, which you necessarily leak

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<v Speaker 3>it in the first place, many speculated that it was

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<v Speaker 3>indeed an opening and a threat to try and get

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<v Speaker 3>Iran to capitulate. However, Iran did not capitulate, that they

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<v Speaker 3>did not come to the table, no deal actually was reached,

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<v Speaker 3>and when push came to shove, Trump ultimately just decided

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<v Speaker 3>to cancel it because of the dire warnings from his

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<v Speaker 3>own military. And we know this because Iran has released

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<v Speaker 3>this let's put it up here on the screen. They

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<v Speaker 3>say the plan to reopen the Strait of Hormuz is false.

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<v Speaker 3>A source close to the nuclear negotiation team this is

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<v Speaker 3>from Iranian state media told far As Media there is

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<v Speaker 3>no agreement regarding the reopening the Strait of Hormuz.

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<v Speaker 1>The news published about it is false.

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<v Speaker 3>Furthermore, a military source emphasized, as long as the United

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<v Speaker 3>States continues as hostile actions, the Strait of hormuves remains closed.

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<v Speaker 3>The passes of ships will only be possible through the

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<v Speaker 3>designated route and with permission from the Navy of the

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<v Speaker 3>Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Hours ago, some media outlets affiliated

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<v Speaker 3>with the enemy claimed Iran had agreed to reopening the

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<v Speaker 3>Strait of Hormuz, a plan which ships would enter the

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<v Speaker 3>Persian Gulf through the Iranian territorial waters and exit through

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<v Speaker 3>Omani territorial waters. Basically crystal from what we can see

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<v Speaker 3>so far is that this so called parameter of a

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<v Speaker 3>deal is based upon a meeting in which nothing was

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<v Speaker 3>agreed to between the Omani's and between the Iranians, in

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<v Speaker 3>which they were hashing out for themselves whether ships were

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<v Speaker 3>able to enter through Iran and exit through the Omani Route. Remember,

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<v Speaker 3>the United States is currently trying to route all traffic

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<v Speaker 3>through the Omani Route outside of Iranian territorial waters, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>which has been met with Iranian fire because of their

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<v Speaker 3>control of the Strait of Our Moose. In fact, just

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<v Speaker 3>hours after this deal was supposedly announced, Iran fired at

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<v Speaker 3>a tanker which was trying to do just that hours ago.

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<v Speaker 3>As of last night, so nothing has actually been agreed to.

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<v Speaker 3>The blockade is on Trump just completely basically. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, chickened out because we want him to taco.

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<v Speaker 3>We want that here on this show. But ultimately it

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<v Speaker 3>came down to bluster threats didn't follow through because the

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<v Speaker 3>entire Gulf was like, please do not do this. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't defend us, and then our infrastructure will also be destroyed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right, And I wouldn't be surprised at all

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<v Speaker 2>because has agreed to nothing if they continue to take

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<v Speaker 2>shots at strategic assets in the region, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their view is that they need to continue to make

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<v Speaker 2>us pay and force Trump to do more than chicken out,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not enough for him to just walk away

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<v Speaker 2>from the current insane threat that he's making. He actually

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<v Speaker 2>has to accept a defeat. And that's why you can

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<v Speaker 2>never you can never dismiss these wild ravings from him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we see assets moving to the region, we

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<v Speaker 2>see him making these very public threats, we see leaks

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<v Speaker 2>in the press about wild plans that are being hatched

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<v Speaker 2>and considered in the situation room, and you can't dismiss it,

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<v Speaker 2>even though we go through this cycle time and time again,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's impossible to see him also accepting the deal

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<v Speaker 2>that would be on the table, which would acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 2>we have been completely defeated. So we're now in this

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<v Speaker 2>no man's land where it is very precarious, where it

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<v Speaker 2>is very uncertain what the next move is ultimately going

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<v Speaker 2>to be, and you cannot rule out that he may

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<v Speaker 2>get frustrated at some point and do some wild you know,

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear attack on Pickaxe Mountain or try to seize carg Island,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Put a seven up on the screen. You

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<v Speaker 2>flagged this this morning. I mean, this gives you a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of just how desperate at of ideas they are.

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<v Speaker 2>They've taken to like crowdsourcing strategies for an attack.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, this is from CNN.

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<v Speaker 2>They say exclusive US military as troops for creative and

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<v Speaker 2>unconventional ideas to punish Iran. The request from a senior

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<v Speaker 2>officer at the US military command carrying out President Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's war with Iran came in an email. We need ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>We are looking for new, creative and unconventional ways to

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<v Speaker 2>pressure and punish Iran, an officer and US sent Comm's

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence branch wrote in a message sent Wednesday to a

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<v Speaker 2>broad group of military analysts, according to a source familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>Second source also said a senior US military officer sent

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<v Speaker 2>the message last week, soliciting new ideas for how to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with Iran. The crowdsourcing style query, which military officials

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<v Speaker 2>said was unusual over email, is one sign of the

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<v Speaker 2>limited and potentially unpalatable options available to Trump to force

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<v Speaker 2>Iran into a deal on his terms. Hoping to find

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<v Speaker 2>an alternative, official at Sencom kicked off the brainstorming session

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<v Speaker 2>via email to see if anyone had a better idea.

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<v Speaker 2>The second source SITCOM is looking at everything, acknowledging it

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<v Speaker 2>needs to reevaluate the strategy. I mean this is wild,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean saber, think about think about this?

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<v Speaker 4>How long?

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<v Speaker 2>How many decades has the US military been thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>and wargaming and planning out what they would do vis

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<v Speaker 2>a vis Iran, considering we thought every possible scenario. And

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<v Speaker 2>so if you think, you know, if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Levin or you're missing listening to Ben Shapiro and

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<v Speaker 2>you're hearing all this confidence from people, Oh, we just

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<v Speaker 2>need to strike them harder, we just need to bomb

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<v Speaker 2>them a little bit more, and it's all going to

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<v Speaker 2>work out. The US military doesn't think, so they are

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<v Speaker 2>literally out of ideas and having to go to the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know were we got nothing? You guys got

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<v Speaker 2>any thoughts on what we could do here?

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<v Speaker 3>Forty seven years, trillions of dollars and all I got

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<v Speaker 3>was this lousy email.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Sus top basically where we're at. You're going to the

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<v Speaker 3>junior officer corps and be like, hey, we've only spent

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<v Speaker 3>our entire careers planning for this. This has been the

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<v Speaker 3>number one thing, the op plan on the desk and

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<v Speaker 3>sent com commander. It's literally his job every year to

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<v Speaker 3>update the plan. And they executed that plan. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a tremendous failure. So what does that say about them?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sure there's some junior military officer and other

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<v Speaker 3>who's trying to come up with some better ideas, and

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<v Speaker 3>they could try, but the end of the day, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what we have in front of us is very simple,

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<v Speaker 3>is within the bounds of what Trump actually this is.

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<v Speaker 3>And this, this dispels the entire thing. This is not

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<v Speaker 3>a military problem. This is a political problem, because if

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<v Speaker 3>this had a military solution, it would have already been done.

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<v Speaker 3>When it comes to unconventional ideas, and you know, let's

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<v Speaker 3>take past wars where the US was bought in, like

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<v Speaker 3>World War two or others. What would happen in a

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<v Speaker 3>situation like this is they would have buy in from

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<v Speaker 3>the business community, from the intellectuals, from all of society

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<v Speaker 3>who are all working together to creatively solve this very

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<v Speaker 3>very thorny issue. But here the vast majority of the population,

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<v Speaker 3>we want out any corporation that's not a defense contract

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<v Speaker 3>or other that's engaged in trying to do this. We're like, whoah,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't want to continue this war. We want this

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<v Speaker 3>over with, done for. And that's the biggest problem that

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<v Speaker 3>the White House faces politically.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want a ground invasion.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure it could happen, but that's not necessarily something that

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<v Speaker 3>any of us want at all.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we want the total opposite.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why within the confines of what Trump has,

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<v Speaker 3>where he has to have minimal casualties and he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to inflict maximum damage, there is no military solution to

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<v Speaker 3>this problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Period.

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<v Speaker 3>The sooner that we get to capitulation and to acknowledging

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<v Speaker 3>de facto Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz, the

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<v Speaker 3>better we all are off. And in fact, you can

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<v Speaker 3>even see any even signs of peace quote unquote, or

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<v Speaker 3>even lack of action. You know, oil isn't like eighty

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<v Speaker 3>something dollars a barrel. You know, if this comes and

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<v Speaker 3>stays for the next two weeks, you will see dipping

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<v Speaker 3>below four dollars, and it'll just continue to be this

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<v Speaker 3>on and off cycle. But I do think that your

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<v Speaker 3>point about how the Iranians will very likely continue to

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<v Speaker 3>punish is because they see that the problem of oil

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<v Speaker 3>continuing to go up and down, and you know, up

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<v Speaker 3>and down is giving the White House the runway necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't want, because remember, the blockade is still

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<v Speaker 3>in power, and their economy is still suffering. They have

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<v Speaker 3>a much higher capacity for suffering than we do. They've

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<v Speaker 3>lost I mean, so many more people in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the engagements.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're going to talk about one of them. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can just put.

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<v Speaker 3>It up here now a five for example, all of

0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.520
<v Speaker 3>what's being done in our name, you know, right now,

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<v Speaker 3>it appears to the United States we dropped a two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand pound bomb on a family home on Keshiam Island,

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<v Speaker 3>killing a husband, a wife, and their two year old son.

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<v Speaker 3>The paper found no indication of a nearby military target.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see the crater. I mean, it is stunning,

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<v Speaker 3>like genuinely crazy scenes out of Gaza. Why did we

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<v Speaker 3>kill these people for no reason? You know, absolutely not,

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<v Speaker 3>and their blood was shed for literally nothing in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And it shows also the point about scentcom

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<v Speaker 3>being like we need more ideas, we've run out of targets.

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<v Speaker 3>It appears if we're going around we're hitting family homes

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<v Speaker 3>with two thousand pound bombs. We're just bombing random stuff

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<v Speaker 3>in and along the straight up our moves or where

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<v Speaker 3>Iranian air defense capabilities are head and so you can

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<v Speaker 3>see like it is just a never ending cycle of

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<v Speaker 3>we bomb simply for the sake of bombing all blying

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, an actual diplomatic solution, and that diplomatic

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<v Speaker 3>solution will will involve the greatest strategic defeat of the

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<v Speaker 3>United States in modern history.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's simply people.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to swallow it until we get until we

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<v Speaker 3>get used to that idea. Then this is just going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the status quo. And the President has not

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<v Speaker 3>suffered nearly enough to be able to get him to

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<v Speaker 3>that point because we all know, you know what it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to look like. It's just it is

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<v Speaker 3>the simple reality of the current facts that are in

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<v Speaker 3>front of us.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this two thousand pound bomb dropped on a

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<v Speaker 2>family home, trusts, constant threats to commit war crimes against

0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:19.840
<v Speaker 2>civilian and infrastructure, the of course triple bombing of a girls' school,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't think anyone could say with a straight

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<v Speaker 2>face for sure was unintentional. We act just like the

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<v Speaker 2>Israelis now. You know, we spend a long time covering

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<v Speaker 2>the genocide in Gaza, saying that with all of the

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<v Speaker 2>qualms and critiques that we have of the way the

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<v Speaker 2>US military behaved in Iraq and Afghanistan, there were some

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<v Speaker 2>lines and I don't think that we can really say

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<v Speaker 2>that anymore, you know, I don't think that we would

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<v Speaker 2>give in a similar scenario. I mean, we backed the

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<v Speaker 2>entire Gaza genocide, so how can we even say separate

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves from any of this. This is exactly the way

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<v Speaker 2>that Israel behaves is the way we behave and we

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<v Speaker 2>think nothing of taking your tax dollars and using it

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<v Speaker 2>to buy two thousand pound bombs that we drop on

0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.440
<v Speaker 2>family homes, you know, in Iran. So that is what

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<v Speaker 2>our country is at this point, and people should be

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<v Speaker 2>horrified by that. Do you have any expectation that the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration will engage in any sort of investigation to

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<v Speaker 2>find out.

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<v Speaker 4>What happens here?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Because there was theoretically an investigation into the girls school bombing,

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<v Speaker 2>and Trump came out and said, oh, well, we'll never

0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.600
<v Speaker 2>know what happened, meaning they'll never release the results. They

0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.880
<v Speaker 2>know exactly exactly what happened there. A couple things with

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<v Speaker 2>regard to the let's crowdsource and brainstorm the next move

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<v Speaker 2>here because we're out of ideas. Do you think Iron's

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<v Speaker 2>ount of ideas? No, they know exactly what they would

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<v Speaker 2>do next. They know exactly the way that they would escalate.

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<v Speaker 2>They have lots of ideas for how they could cause

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<v Speaker 2>even more pain and tighten the grip on the global economy,

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<v Speaker 2>which is obviously a primary strategy for them. So while

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<v Speaker 2>we're running around, I don't know what we do next.

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<v Speaker 2>We kind of blew our load with all the targets

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<v Speaker 2>and none of it's really having an impat And don't

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<v Speaker 2>really want to do this ground invasion because it will

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<v Speaker 2>be a complete and total disaster and probably won't work anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't really want to do the whole tactical nuclear weapon

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<v Speaker 2>on Pickax Mountain.

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<v Speaker 4>Because of what that will unleash.

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<v Speaker 2>Iran has a plan and a strategy and has been

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<v Speaker 2>executing it quite effectively, so their coherence versus are chaotic. Incoherence,

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<v Speaker 2>I think tells you a lot to begin with here,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's go in. Put a six up on the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of how Iran is thinking about this, this

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<v Speaker 2>is from treet de Parsi. He's reflecting on the latest

0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Taco cycle. He says, yet another apocalyptic threat followed by

0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.160
<v Speaker 2>another self congratulatory climb down. The pattern is becoming tiresome.

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<v Speaker 2>By now, unable to escalate his way on of the

0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.760
<v Speaker 2>self inflicted debacle, Trump tries to bluff his way out,

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<v Speaker 2>except Tehran is not falling for it. Rather, it is

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<v Speaker 2>confidently raising the stakes, calculating Trump will only fully commit

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<v Speaker 2>to a diplomatic solution once he has internalized that he

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<v Speaker 2>does not have a military option. It's a risky strategy

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<v Speaker 2>with potential attacks in Egypt and cyber attacks in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>Will get to that in just a moment, but one

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<v Speaker 2>that the new and far lesser strained military leadership believes

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<v Speaker 2>is more likely to achieve security than giving into Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>So the next few days will undoubtedly be eventful, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's holding a Q and A session Friday. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>you can sign up over at his substack, which of

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<v Speaker 2>course we recommend that you do. But you know, the

0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.960
<v Speaker 2>reality here is Sager. It's easy for us to sit

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<v Speaker 2>here and say, hey, Taco all the way like, let's

0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.320
<v Speaker 2>get the hell out of here. That's what's going to

0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:29.880
<v Speaker 2>be best for the US. That's what's going to be

0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.320
<v Speaker 2>best for the war, for the world. This war is

0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.600
<v Speaker 2>an utter and complete disaster if you're Trump. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, also if you are a member of the

0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.120
<v Speaker 2>military brass the deep state, you're ideologically committed to the

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<v Speaker 2>US empire. We have to acknowledge that basically the end

0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.840
<v Speaker 2>of the US Empire admitting defeat and meaning that admitting

0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.000
<v Speaker 2>that we can't control the waterways. I mean, what are

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<v Speaker 2>we as an empire if we aren't, you know, out

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<v Speaker 2>there to secure free trade, free global trade and commerce

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<v Speaker 2>around the world. If we have to acknowledge, no, we

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<v Speaker 2>can't do this with iron even if we wanted to,

0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.160
<v Speaker 2>they get to have a say that is basically the

0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.600
<v Speaker 2>end of US Empire. And so that's why even a

0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of the military brass that had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>reservations going into this, which were expressed clearly not force

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<v Speaker 2>fully enough to Trump, why they're still going to be

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure this thing out and trying to come

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<v Speaker 2>up with a solution. Okay, if we do, you know,

0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.520
<v Speaker 2>some insane bombing campaign, if we do some sort of raid,

0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.639
<v Speaker 2>maybe there's some sort of hacking up, maybe we can

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<v Speaker 2>take on a few more regime leaders, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>throw a lot at the wall because they've realized that

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<v Speaker 2>it is kind of all on the line here, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're ideologically committed to the continuance of the

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<v Speaker 2>US Empire. And so that's why in a lot of

0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.240
<v Speaker 2>ways them and Trump are in the same boat at

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<v Speaker 2>this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Right that explains at one point five trillion dollar military

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<v Speaker 3>spending because they're like, oh, we just have to spend

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<v Speaker 3>even more on the exact same weapons that got us

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<v Speaker 3>into the same situation.

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<v Speaker 1>That we're in right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We could have more weapons. Wouldn't matter, It literally wouldn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't change anything about Iranian capitulation zero. What it would change, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>is the American ability to defend other far fling parts

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<v Speaker 3>of our empire. But this is going to create like

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<v Speaker 3>the husbandry of resources, which is a disaster ultimately to

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<v Speaker 3>the prestige and to the image. Because it was inconceivable,

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<v Speaker 3>even to extreme military skeptics like me, that we would

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<v Speaker 3>be in this situation today. I mean, all the script

0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.320
<v Speaker 3>was written, though, to be fair, when we look at

0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:17.359
<v Speaker 3>the drone threat, when we look at the interestet we

0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.600
<v Speaker 3>talked about here for years and years, from the Ukraine

0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:24.359
<v Speaker 3>conflict to the Operation Midnight Hammer, the Reduction of Thad.

0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.960
<v Speaker 3>The script was there, but nobody expected I think the

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<v Speaker 3>Third Act to go in the direction that it ultimately did.

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<v Speaker 3>So now what's going to happen In my opinion, this

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<v Speaker 3>like Phase two style type thing where we have no

0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.200
<v Speaker 3>war and no peace. It's going to happen for a

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<v Speaker 3>very long period of time for the exactly the situation

0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.680
<v Speaker 3>that you just laid out. It's just like Afghanistan. Admitting

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<v Speaker 3>defeat is so catastrophic to the image and prestige and

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States and its military that we will

0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:57.320
<v Speaker 3>throw good money after bad ten times over just to

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<v Speaker 3>not have to admit defeat. And Trump will have to

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<v Speaker 3>be brought to a crushing economic situation to ultimately recognize

0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.040
<v Speaker 3>the de facto Irani and Romani control of the Strait

0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 3>of Hormuz. Many, you know, the cranks of the people

0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.000
<v Speaker 3>like us who are like, why are we in this?

0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.280
<v Speaker 3>We will all be vindicated in the end, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the interim, like you said, there are very

0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.960
<v Speaker 3>very powerful people here in Washington, many of whom didn't

0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.720
<v Speaker 3>even agree or want to launch the war in the

0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:26.440
<v Speaker 3>first place, who are now like, we have to put

0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.600
<v Speaker 3>it all on the line, this very First World war mentality.

0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.840
<v Speaker 3>You could see it through all ages, in all warfare.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though you have a useless and stupid situation, you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>for the future, for us as a nation to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to survive, we have to continue to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's how you end up in these prolonged and

0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.760
<v Speaker 3>disastrous quagmires in Vietnam, perfect example.

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<v Speaker 1>Highly recommend everybody you know. You know, if you read

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<v Speaker 1>and look at.

0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.240
<v Speaker 3>The exact situation from how you go to a few

0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:56.440
<v Speaker 3>thousand military advisors to five hundred thousand American troops on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>It took five years.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nothing, but the logic in which it all happened

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<v Speaker 3>is exactly the way that it is right now. I

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 3>don't think we'll end up with ground troops at least

0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.040
<v Speaker 3>in a prolonged occupation sense like we are with it,

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<v Speaker 3>but that doesn't make it any less catastrophic.

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<v Speaker 2>We're basically all sitting here waiting around for either a

0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:24.080
<v Speaker 2>catastrophic economic crisis or a catastrophic political crisis, because those

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.479
<v Speaker 2>are the things that would force this to an end.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the Iranian understanding. So when will that come?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, We're We've talked endlessly about the strategic petroleum reserve,

0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.040
<v Speaker 2>about the oil markets. There's all sorts of you know,

0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:42.440
<v Speaker 2>interconnectivities in the economy that very hard even for experts

0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 2>to predict when something is going to break in a

0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.600
<v Speaker 2>catastrophic manner. We're basically waiting around for that or we're

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:50.840
<v Speaker 2>waiting around for the sort of political crisis, you know,

0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:55.760
<v Speaker 2>visa Vietnam, like a similar level political crisis that forces

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's hand, enforces an end here, although I think he's

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:03.400
<v Speaker 2>more impervious to those horses, you know, than previous presidents were.

0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:05.800
<v Speaker 2>And for him, as long as he is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>staying out of prison and getting rich, then he only

0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 2>cares so much. But the economic crisis, he doesn't want

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.760
<v Speaker 2>to be remembered as Herbert Hoover. So so that's kind

0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 2>of where we are, is just sitting here and wondering

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 2>when the global economic system is going to completely fall

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.800
<v Speaker 2>apart in a way that forces their hand. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a terrible place to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and it could take years, years and years.

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 3>So that's why we really need to buckle in. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>put a four up here on the screen. This is

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<v Speaker 3>very important. Also, you know we were talking here a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit about the empire. Well, it turns out that

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<v Speaker 3>Saudi Crown Prince MBS is one of the main reasons

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<v Speaker 3>that these attacks did not go forward. The Kingdom, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, even released their readout of the call where

0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:49.200
<v Speaker 3>they explicitly said the Crown Prince asked President Trump not

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<v Speaker 3>to resume major air strikes on Iran. You never see

0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.280
<v Speaker 3>that out of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. What they

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<v Speaker 3>see here is that Salmon spoke to President Trump on

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Saturday express concern over his plans for massive new strikes,

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<v Speaker 3>because of course Iran had actually published a list of

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<v Speaker 3>sites that would be struck in retaliation, many of them

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<v Speaker 3>in Saudi Arabia, which would have sent oil prices absolutely skyrocketing.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote the Saudi's express concern, asked for clarity about the

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 3>plan of action. NBS urged Trump to de escalate and

0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 3>from launching the strikes. The apparently the Saudi Defense Minister,

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.120
<v Speaker 3>who I think is the brother known as KBS, came

0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:31.320
<v Speaker 3>to Washington thirteen hour flight for a single meeting just

0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 3>with the Vice President J. Dve Hans, in which he

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.640
<v Speaker 3>begged him please do not go forward with these new strikes,

0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 3>and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Flew back to Saudi Arabia.

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 3>That's how twenty six hours on a plane for a

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.639
<v Speaker 3>one hour meeting in which they saw the situation that

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 3>dire that they couldn't even just pick up the phone,

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:51.720
<v Speaker 3>I think again, just underscoring he's oh, he's got he's

0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:55.159
<v Speaker 3>definitely got Let's not, let's not you know, cry too

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.760
<v Speaker 3>many tears for the for the rich princes of the

0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 3>House of Riod, but you know, or the House of Sods. Sorry,

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:05.159
<v Speaker 3>but I do think it underscores just how much of

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 3>a pain position that they are in. How the UA

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 3>so Saudi's in that position too, where remember they're exporting

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 3>some oil. The UAE and Bahrain are apparently pissed off

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.680
<v Speaker 3>at the United States for not escalating the conflict because

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 3>they're done.

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>They're locked in right now.

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 3>And they're also I mean, UA is not getting pounded

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:24.120
<v Speaker 3>as much, but Bahrain and Kuwait absolutely are. And they're like, hey,

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:25.959
<v Speaker 3>why have we been buying all these weapons? We need

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 3>more interceptors, and Trump and them are like, yeah, you

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 3>needed interceptors, so does Ukraine, and so do we. So

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 3>basically we're the only ones getting them because we're the

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 3>ones who make it, which is what's making everybody rethink

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 3>their alliance. But I do think you know, to the

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 3>empire point, when you imagine this, you have an empire

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 3>of antiquity, you have the provinces of which you have

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 3>guaranteed their security. You start a war, which is disastrous

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 3>for said provinces, and then the provinces I guess usually

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:55.959
<v Speaker 3>would say, hey, you need to come and defend us.

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 3>But when it gets revealed that you can't defend them,

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 3>then of course you're gonna have to go back to

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 3>the Imperial capital and say please, please, don't stop, because

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 3>you don't have the capacity to defend us, which means

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 3>that you're actually going to inflict pain. And that is,

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 3>as you said at the beginning of the end. None

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:13.119
<v Speaker 3>of this will happen overnight. It happens over many, many years.

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 3>But you know, you can it is very easy, I think,

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:20.160
<v Speaker 3>at least in this position now, to say generally, based

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.919
<v Speaker 3>upon the course of history, we know where this story

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 3>is going to go, and none of it is good

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 3>for the US's ability to defend you know, quote unquote allies.

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, you know, I talk a lot here

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 3>and I have for many years about NATO and all that.

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't care about Estonia and Latvia or any of

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 3>the far flung posts, you know, nineteen nineties additions. But

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 3>I do care a lot about Japan and South Korea,

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 3>about really like the UK, I mean, you know, Australia,

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 3>actual critical trading partners, allies of the United States, and

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 3>right now we're in a situation where that's in question,

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:57.200
<v Speaker 3>and that's what I think should scare everybody.

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 4>Do you care about SAYU to Spain because the place

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 4>I never knew existed.

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Didn't even very interested. Now now, I mean, I got

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, it is fascinating, totally.

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.360
<v Speaker 2>No, I started going down that history rabbit hole too.

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.640
<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that in a minute. So just one

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 2>last thing on in terms of the allies, the Saudis

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.959
<v Speaker 2>have enough sort of size and societal strength and position

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that I think they feel like, you know, they'll be

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 2>they'll be okay out of this uh war.

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 4>They don't like the attacks.

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 2>This is very bad for them, very bad for their economy,

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 2>all of that stuff, And so that's why they're coming

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 2>and like, hey, could we not do this? You know,

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 2>this hasn't worked out the way that you said it

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>was going to work out, because there were was reporting

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 2>that early on when Trump was saying, hey, it's going

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:43.479
<v Speaker 2>to be four days, no problem, We're going to take

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 2>them out. It's going to be great. That Iranian has

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 2>been a pain in your butt. Now you'll have more

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 2>ascendance in the region. They were like, great, cool when

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 2>this hasn't gone the way they wanted. Now they want

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 2>out now, they want a deal, They want this to

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 2>be done. They want to go back to sort of

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>normal course of order. Not that that's entirely possible, but

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Rain and UAE are more in the boat of sort

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 2>of like the US Empire protectors, like this is genuinely existential.

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>UA is barely a country. I mean, it really isn't

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 2>quite a proper country, and their whole thing is built

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 2>on their brand as this luxury respite for the global elite,

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>the global money launderers to come and stay and enjoy

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and park their money. Being in a war zone is

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 2>not part of that deal. So they've got a real

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 2>existential problem. And then Bahrain has a problem as well

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>because their leadership doesn't have a lot of legitimacy. You've

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of sites there or sympathetic to Iran,

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>so they haven't an existential issue as well. So I

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 2>think for those countries you can understand they're in this

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of like all or nothing place as well. Where

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 2>to end the war now is going to be somewhat

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 2>unacceptable for them because they've you know, that threat will remain,

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 2>and that threat will loom and will undermine the very

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 2>sort of underpinnings of their of their states such as

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 2>they are. So I think that's part of why you

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 2>see a different response there. Let's put a three up

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 2>on the screen. You know, I'm not really sure what

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>to make of this, but in terms of what the

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Iranians are up to or could be up to, there's

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>a report from the New York Times, and we've seen

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>some other reporting that the Iranians have. It looks like

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>potentially the Iranians have hacked US water supply systems in

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 2>seven different states that we know of, Minnesota being one,

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Michigan being the other. I don't think we know what

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 2>the other five states are specifically. This is one of

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.719
<v Speaker 2>those saga where they say, well, it bears the hallmarks

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>of an Iranian hack.

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 4>We don't know for sure. It's possible. You know.

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I take it sort of more seriously than perhaps I

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 2>otherwise would, for two reasons. Number one, because Trump wants

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 2>to downplay it, Like if this was some sort of

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 2>a you know, an intel op from the US government

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 2>or from the Israelis, it feels like Trump would embrace it.

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they're coming after us. That's why we've got

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>to attack them, We've got to neutralize the threat, et cetera.

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>He has very much wanted to downplay these and even

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 2>tried to blame the Minnesota government for hacking their own

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 2>water system.

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 4>Okay, sure.

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 2>And then the other reason is because true to Parsi,

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 2>of course, we have a lot of respect for thinks

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 2>that it's possible that this was the Iranians as well

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 2>as a sort of warning shot. They didn't do anything

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.719
<v Speaker 2>here that really caused problems. It was more of an

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>announcement of their capabilities of hey, you know, nice water

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 2>supply system you have. They're connected to the internet. Shame

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 2>if something would happen to it. Again, I'm not sure,

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 2>and neither are the analysts who are quoted in this

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.479
<v Speaker 2>New York times pace, but it's definitely something to consider

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.239
<v Speaker 2>and pay attention to because we feel very protected here

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 2>in the US. We have, you know, a lot of

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 2>our own geographic advantages which are tremendous, and we know

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>that Iranian missiles can't reach our homeland.

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Our shores here.

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a reminder that in a world that is completely interconnected,

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 2>they still do have potential ways to you know, disrupt

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>life here. As well and get at us and mess

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 2>with us. And of course we know that also from

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>every time we to the gas pump and see what

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 2>the price is.

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 3>I am always skeptical of these types of stories. Everyone

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 3>should be too. It does make sense in the way

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 3>they traded to put it, and that it would be

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.239
<v Speaker 3>the horizontal escalation in terms of you mess with our

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 3>power plants, We're going to try.

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>And mess with yours.

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 3>And it has always been kind of a glaring cybersecurity

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 3>problem that we have major holes and problems with our

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 3>utility companies energy. I mean even in terms of our airlines.

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, United or American gets grounded every other week

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 3>because of an IT problem.

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>We don't know why, but that's hundreds.

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Of billions of dollars you know, at stake if that

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 3>we were to have a sustained shutdown.

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's very possible that could be there. Obviously, we'll

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>watch it.

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Like you said, too, Trump downplaying it does seem to

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 3>actually make me think, hmm, maybe there was actually something there.

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Because if it were real, or if it were something

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 3>that or sorry, if it weren't real, if it was

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 3>like a manufactured thing to try and to escalate the war,

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 3>then people who would want to use it as a

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 3>pretext would certainly be crying. So we'll see they make

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 3>knowing this administration, they may turn around and do sometime

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 3>in the future. All right, let's get to the military.

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 2>One of the things that we have learned from this

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>war is what a failure the US basing strategy has

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 2>been throughout the region. And now we have this extraordinary

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 2>development we can put up here on the screen. After

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 2>how many years have we been in Iraq because of

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>this war, it appears that we are approaching an actual

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 2>full withdrawal from Iraq. As bases in the Kurdistan region

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 2>face attacks from Iran and their proxies, Patriot air defense

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>systems that detect and shoot down incoming missiles and drones

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>have already been removed. According to Al Monitor and their sources,

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 2>let me go ahead and read you a little bit

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 2>of this article. They say the US military has started

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 2>to draw down its last remaining forces from Iraq station

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 2>in the vicinity vicinity of Ourbiel's Airport in the Iraqi

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Kurdistan region. Well placed sources tell al Monitor Patriot mobile

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>air to surface air defense systems that detect and shoes

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 2>down incoming missiles, drones, and other airborne enemy equipment have

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 2>already been removed from the military compound. The pullout started

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 2>last week and is ongoing, with the bulk of the

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 2>US forces and their heavy equipment out. All of the

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Patriot anti missile batteries had been redeployed to an undisclosed destination,

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>they said, adding that other defensive weapons systems remained in

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>place as of the time of publication. Regional officials claim

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 2>the pullout was sager routine and in line with the

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>US commitment to withdraw all its forces from Iraq by

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>a September thirtieth deadline that was agreed with Baghdad. So

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I think we can read the tea laves here, and

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean this is pretty extraordinary. Basically, Iran wants us

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.239
<v Speaker 2>out of the region, and in a way, we are

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 2>being forced to oblige because we can no longer protect

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>our forces throughout the region. We have to marshal our

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 2>resources as we run low on all sorts of missiles

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 2>and missile interceptors and all the rest. So we have

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>to strategically reposition to make sure we can attack I

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 2>guess the most vital assets at this point, and so

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 2>after all of this. It is now the Iran war

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 2>that has actually forced us to fully withdraw from Iraq,

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 2>where we never should have been in the first place.

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, that's kind of where I was going to start.

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like, well, let's actually look at the history of

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 3>the space of Kurdistan. This was one of the jump

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 3>off points between the United States and ISIS where we

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 3>fought side by side the United States Special Forces and

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the Kurdish troops that helped defeat ISIS

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 3>both in Iraq and in Syria. But then let's actually

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 3>take a step back even further and let's think about

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 3>why these bases and all of that have to be

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 3>driven out in the first place. Is the truth is,

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 3>we invaded this country of Iraq, and yeah, we deposed

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 3>Saddam Hussein and we turned it by our own admission,

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 3>into an Iranian proxy state, in which the Iraqi Prime

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Minister has had to come here to Washington and effectively demand,

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 3>as of a few weeks ago, that we leave. And

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 3>remember that was an agreement that was agreed to in

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 3>the Oval Office in which Trump and the Iraqi PM said, yes,

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 3>the United States is to exit the country, but it's

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 3>going to do so not on terms that are ours

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.959
<v Speaker 3>and not in terms of a quote unquote prosperous Iraq

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 3>that has the ability to thrive as a democracy is

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 3>George W. Bush and all that's sold to us, but

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 3>one in which there are major Iranian military proxies which

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 3>have the ability to shoot drones at American service members.

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 3>And don't forget this is also where multiple service members

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 3>were dyed in a mysterious air crash of those two tankers.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Let's not forget that. And there's still a lot of

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 3>questions that surround it. In addition to just last week

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 3>that unexploded drone that actually was exploded by some EOD

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 3>tech and ended up killing a nearby American service member.

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 3>That happened in Iraq alongside those three casualties that also

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 3>happened in Jordan. So we still have forces that are

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 3>there on the ground having to leave basically unceremoniously, and

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 3>in the midst of all of this, especially not on

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 3>our own terms, does demonstrate ultimately the benefit to Iran

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 3>and to their strategy. This also comes on the heels

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 3>of the empty we've seen previously of the Aladeid Air

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Base in Doha, which was a huge base of operations.

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 3>I used to live very nearby it SEC seventeen's and

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 3>these transport planes that were.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Coming in I was there in two thousand and eight.

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 3>The would be coming in all hours of the day

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 3>bringing in supplies and troops and all this other stuff

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 3>for the war in Iraq. To have to abandon that

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 3>for the drone or the missile threat is crazy. We

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.320
<v Speaker 3>also have seen similar situation in Kuwait and Bahrain in

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 3>which the air defense either was knocked out or non existent,

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.439
<v Speaker 3>troops having to go sleep in hotels. So we've seen

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 3>this now time and time again, where being driven out

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 3>not just the basis, but of the ability to use

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 3>them for the function that we ultimately wanted, which is

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 3>the major problem. And I think that you compare this,

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 3>as we've talked about previously with the military failure. The

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 3>truth is is like we are living through what is

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 3>technically called like a revolution in military affairs. I won't

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 3>go into all of it, but it is a fascinating

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 3>intellectual exercise in which you know the ways in which

0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 3>warfare is conducted and understood is complete lately. Change I've

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 3>talked to here previously about the battleship and World War

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 3>two and how what changed about the what changed in

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.760
<v Speaker 3>the theory of the battleship to ability to project power

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 3>and how that was blown up in a single second

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 3>whenever aircraft were able to sink them in a matter

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 3>of seconds. It completely changed the understanding of naval warfare

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 3>at that time. Well this time, you know, it also

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 3>happened in the nineteen nineties. Again bore everybody with the details.

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.760
<v Speaker 3>But the drone threat and the missile threat in particular,

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 3>along with the interceptor math and the exchange between those

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 3>two is another one I think that we're all living through.

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 3>And I saw some discussion about that today and you

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 3>can actually see it with B three, which is really shocking.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, first of all, when we read this headline,

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 3>some might even ask why are we protecting Israel in

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 3>the first place. But the top the US general in

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 3>the region has now warned the Pentagon quote hey lacks

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 3>sufficient forces to protect Israel. He says that a shortage

0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>of navy destroyers used to defend against Iranian ballistic missile

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 3>attacks will now have to force the head of European

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Command to prioritize the US homeland instead. He says that

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 3>the Pentagon this week he lacks sufficient naval forces to

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 3>continue protecting Israel from incoming ballistic missiles, illustrating how the

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.760
<v Speaker 3>ongoing Iran war has imposed the constraints on the military

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 3>and that he will be forced to choose between defense

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 3>of the US quote homeland as in basis, over that

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 3>of Israel, who, like some others, spoke on the condition

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 3>of anonymity here to the Washington Posts. But what I

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 3>think this demonstrates, first of all, is that same empire

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 3>problem that we had previously. Don't forget that we had

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 3>a situation where the United States was expending more of

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 3>our interceptors than Israel was expending of their own, even

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 3>though they have them. Why for no reason that has

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:45.720
<v Speaker 3>ever been revealed here to the public. Let's not forget

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.320
<v Speaker 3>that in the Operation Midnight Hammer in thirteen days, the

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 3>United States expended twenty five percent of the entire THAD inventory,

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 3>twenty five percent of everything that we had, just to

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 3>shoot down missiles that were headed towards Israel, not towards

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 3>the United States. So see now how the defense of Israel,

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 3>not just in terms of them dragging us into this

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 3>war or being complicit, et cetera, convincing Trump to do it,

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 3>but even just the sheer military defense of them, what

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 3>it has cost us and allies that are actually.

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Meaningful and helpful to our country.

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I think when you pour these two things together, or

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 3>a pair of these two things together, and then show

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 3>these golf allies, which, by the way, you know, I'm

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 3>not some big golf defender, but if you're going to

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 3>look at it in a balance sheet, you'd say, we

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 3>get a hell of a lot more from Kuwait or

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Bahrain or any of these places than we do from Israel,

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 3>this tiny little country with no even oil or in

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 3>terms of our trading, and especially if you're to put

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>them together, you would obviously prioritize one over the other.

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not just the one saying that.

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Remember we even played Saudi's on their own television in

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 3>the midst of the war, who were furious saying they're

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 3>defending Israel but they can't even defend us. It's such

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 3>a crazy situation total.

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's just pause on the wild nature of

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>even having to say, well, we've got a tough choice

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>on our hands, defend Israel or defend the whole Like,

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>how is this even being framed as?

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't know which way should we go. But it

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 4>shows you how.

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Committed they are to the endless support of this small

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 2>country in the Middle East, which is I think quite insane,

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>quite insane. At this point, Let's go ahead and put

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 2>B two up on the screen, just to show you

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>some of the state of play here. In terms of

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 2>the economy. Trump says the Iran talks or to resume

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 2>after the US called off a major attack. Oil prices

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 2>are down after the latest taco so once again the

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 2>market's taking seriously whatever Trump is saying here and buying

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 2>himself some war time. Let's also put before up on

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>the screen. This goes to what we're speaking about previously

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>about how locked in the deep state and the military

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 2>brass is. You've got a US commander who plans, he

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 2>claims he's got a two week plan to escalate strikes

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 2>in Iran. The idea here just basically being let's bomb

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 2>the more and bomb them harder, and maybe that'll work.

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 2>This is also something that was leaked to the Wall

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Street Journal prior to Trump backing down, so I think

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 2>this could also potentially be seen as part of just

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 2>the you know, using the weaponizing the press to try

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>to make a credible threat against Iran that would hopefully

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>cause some sort of you know, create some sort of

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 2>leverage for the US and negotiations, and force Iron to

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 2>concede things that they have been unwilling to concede. This

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 2>obviously didn't work, But I also don't doubt Soger that

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 2>there are plenty of people inside of the Pentagon who

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 2>find coming to a deal that acknowledges defeat at this

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 2>point to be completely unacceptable. In are floating a lot

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 2>of wild plans, wild desperate plans, because wild and desperate

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 2>plans are all we have at this point.

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>That's very true, you know.

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 3>I also think we should pair some of this with

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 3>the sheer insanity of what it actually looked like like

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 3>what this war if Trump had actually pressed the button

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.720
<v Speaker 3>and said it would let's go to before. For example,

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 3>this was the actual plan, all leaked out to the

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Wall Street Journal. It was a two week plan to

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 3>escalate strikes. As Trump reiterates for the Iran's missile attack,

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 3>the question is how long the new air campaign will last.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 3>This Encom commander had pushed a ten to fourteen day

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 3>intensive air strike aimed to cripple Iran's missile capacity. Despite

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 3>warnings that the US is running low on defense munitions. Basically,

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 3>what Admiral Cooper had been pushing, who is the leader

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 3>of Sencom, was well, what we can do is we

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 3>can cripple the Iranian ballistic missic capacity a little bit

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 3>more if you give me all the spare munitions and

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 3>interceptors in the entire arsenal. That was his plan, and

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 3>in addition to that, Trump was also saying we would

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:42.800
<v Speaker 3>hit some of these critical infrastructure.

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 1>But one of the things that we learned.

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 3>After the pause of or after the pause or whatever

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 3>you want to call the initial ceaspire was even though

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 3>we'd said we destroyed ninety five percent of Iran's ballistic

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 3>missic capacity, it turns out the number was more like

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 3>thirty percent. And then that thirty percent a lot of

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 3>it was able to be dug out as a now

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 3>evidence by the fact that they were able to hit

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 3>one of our bases which killed several US service members,

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 3>and I've been able to use them all across the

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 3>region in the interim. So I do think that you know,

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 3>when we talked previously about Sendcom asking for unconventional ideas,

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 3>this idea and this plan is so you know, ludicrous

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 3>in its actual proposal to basically just continue what what's

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 3>already had been done and to quote finish the job

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 3>in terms of the targets, as if those targets had

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 3>done anything what they were supposed to do in the

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 3>first place, which was bring down the regime, even in

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 3>conjunction with all of these insane Israeli air strikes. So

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 3>I just want to make sure people know that's what

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 3>the actual plan.

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Was on the table.

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and quite to the contrary, it just strengthened the

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 2>government by all accounts, as best we can tell from

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 2>the outside. Put the last element in this block up

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 2>on the screen here, guys, B six. This is just

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 2>important to note where we are at this point. This

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 2>is from the New York Times. It's framed under what

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 2>they call news analysis, which is somewhere between you know,

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 2>reporting and opinion. This is Stephen Erlinger, who they say

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 2>has covered issues related to Ron since the Islamic Revolution

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy eight. And the analysis here is going

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 2>to be very similar to things you've been hearing on

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 2>the show for quite a while, they say. And around

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the US of pars headed for a strategic defeat, Allies fear,

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 2>with none of President Trump's aims accomplished and the straight

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:26.399
<v Speaker 2>deformat is closed, US allies see dysfunction and vulnerability from

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 2>the war. To see this sort of analysis in the

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 2>New York Times, you know, which is very hawkish, very

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 2>pro American empire outlet, is I think a significant development

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 2>in and of itself and a sign of the times

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 2>of how undeniable the.

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:45.919
<v Speaker 4>Defeat has become in this war.

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I like how they frame it in

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.320
<v Speaker 2>terms of our allies fear, but very much the you know,

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 2>the writing is on the wall here in terms of

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 2>what we've been unable to accomplish and how on every

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 2>objective that we claimed during this war that we had,

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 2>we have gone backwards from where we started. So everything

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 2>that you know, whether it's Iranian pursuit of a nuclear weapon,

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>whether it's wanting to topple the regime, whether it's wanting

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 2>to back up the protesters in the streets, whether it's

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 2>in terms of the straight of horm who's on every

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>single one of these metrics that have been floated at

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 2>times as objectives of the war. We have undeniably gone

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 2>in the opposite direction and have much much less leverage

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.800
<v Speaker 2>in order to secure the aims than we did before

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 2>we started this foolish war, and that is now being

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 2>openly acknowledged in mainstream publications like the New York Times.

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 3>Yep, exactly right. Yeah, I mean to the extent that

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 3>it's just saying what a lot of people already know.

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's not actually important for what it says,

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 3>but it's important for where it appears at the front

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 3>page on Sunday, and that just means things are a

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 3>lot worse, you know, once they get to that point,

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 3>you can just bet that it's actually much much worse

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 3>in terms of what all of us on the bleeding

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 3>edge can see, all right, should we get to Max Miller.

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Indeed,