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Speaker 1: This is Mandy be Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production

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Speaker 1: of the Black Epec podcast network and iHeartRadio. Welcome back, classmates.

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Speaker 1: It's another episode on a Friday of Selective Ignorance, and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by probably the baddest classmate, the one

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Speaker 1: who should be expelled and sent to the what was

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Speaker 1: the disruption school?

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Speaker 2: What are those called?

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Speaker 3: A second grade? Right? I literally was expelled from the

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Speaker 3: second grade.

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Speaker 1: Expelled out of second grade is nuts, y'all. I have

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Speaker 1: very very is joining us. You may remember his episode

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Speaker 1: with Ish. He is also someone if you are a

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Speaker 1: whore Hive member or just a classmate, you see him talking.

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Speaker 1: He did a lot on our Assembly Hall. But I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to kind of talk the topics with him this

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Speaker 1: week or this is America segment. We are talking Joe

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Speaker 1: Buden versus Native Land for celebrities say the darness things.

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Speaker 1: We are getting into Kevin McCall versus Chris Brown. And

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Speaker 1: then we actually have a classmate who sent in a

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Speaker 1: response to last week's letter. The am I Ignorant segment

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Speaker 1: around her doing the same thing, apparently having an abortion

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Speaker 1: with the perfect man.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: Into it very as stress, But I guess before we

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Speaker 1: get there, we'll do a quick little catchup. I do

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Speaker 1: want to say, if you haven't listened to this week's

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Speaker 1: episode featuring Glasses Malone, I was thoroughly surprised with how

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Speaker 1: much I enjoyed him. If he was local, I would

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Speaker 1: actually consider having him a monthly.

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Speaker 2: I like him.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were about to pick a number four.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know how what do you mean a number

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Speaker 3: four boyfriends? Aren't you trying to Oh no, no, no, no, okay,

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 1: I would never be in a romantic relationship with Glasses. However,

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Speaker 1: I so I've been on He's come on horrible decisions right,

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Speaker 1: and then he's also been a guest when I've done

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Speaker 1: Brilliant Idiots the most recent time. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's maybe his dynamic with Weezy or just leaning

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Speaker 1: into sex and dating with him because he speaks real

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Speaker 1: West Coast pimp like But in our episode on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be embarrassing to say. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: it again because I know I said it in the episode.

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Speaker 1: It was scary sitting across from him because although I

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Speaker 1: disagreed with damn near everything out of his mouth, he

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Speaker 1: at least could back up his opinion and Barry what's

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Speaker 1: crazy is On the episode that I recorded with you

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Speaker 1: in Ish, we talked about like the echo chamber of opinions.

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Speaker 2: And how people don't seem to be able to form

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Speaker 2: their own.

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Speaker 1: I was almost impressed that he believed the bullshit coming

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Speaker 1: out of his mouth, and so I was like, nigga, you're.

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Speaker 4: Like me.

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Speaker 3: Ignorant with a smile. You know me, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But no, no, no, no, he knew exactly what he

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Speaker 2: was saying, and he backed it up, and he had

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Speaker 2: real like analogies and deep dives into why he thought

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Speaker 2: the way he thought. And I was like, bitch me too.

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Speaker 3: I promise to listen to that episode, but tell me

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Speaker 3: one thing that you said. Oh man, that was that

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Speaker 3: was a mic drop.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because everyone is arguing right now on the internet.

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Speaker 1: The clip just dropped, and Tank is in the comments

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Speaker 1: fighting with people. Glasses is fighting with people. He pretty much, ah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, everybody got something to say about Drake.

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Speaker 1: So he pretty much said that Drake is not hip hop,

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Speaker 1: he's pop and he takes from the culture and makes

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Speaker 1: it digestible for people. His analogy was like of Americans

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Speaker 1: making taco bell and how fried chicken is a soul

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Speaker 1: foodle and so basically Drake would be KFC wow.

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Speaker 2: And so it was.

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Speaker 1: It was just interesting because did I agree with him? No,

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Speaker 1: But he was able to explain.

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Speaker 2: What we're not gonna do is rehash that conversation. I think.

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Speaker 2: I think here's the thing. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Right when we hear of pop, to me, we think

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Speaker 1: of popular and so I think it's why even though

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Speaker 1: Beyonce has transcended R and B, she started R and B,

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Speaker 1: she went pop because white people listen to you. So

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Speaker 1: to me, labeling black people who are first labeled into

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Speaker 1: certain genres as pop later just means that they've transcended

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Speaker 1: a genre because now they are so popular that the

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Speaker 1: world knows them, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I mean.

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Speaker 3: Michael Jackson was the king of.

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Speaker 2: What because he was popular.

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Speaker 1: The nigga okay, so so here and here's where when

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Speaker 1: that Mary J. Blige was the queen of hip hop

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Speaker 1: that bitch sings, and he was trying to say the

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Speaker 1: singing element of Drake makes him not just because the

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Speaker 1: bitch bop and where's don't make her hip hop, it's

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Speaker 1: when the thigh high boots and firs hip hop.

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Speaker 2: Like no, actually, if you really think about.

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Speaker 1: It, it's Italians. When I think of like the Firs,

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Speaker 1: I think of the mob.

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Speaker 3: Name of space that you go into. If you were

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Speaker 3: the thigh highs, you would just be like, Okay, she's

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Speaker 3: doing it. What do you mean that's the only place

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Speaker 3: you're walking. There's no other room that you're in that

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Speaker 2: He here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: And maybe because I lived in New York for thirteen

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Speaker 1: years and so you are in the Midwest, them white women,

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Speaker 1: maybe when the temperature drop them girls be having the

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Speaker 1: thigh highs on.

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Speaker 2: Now they get the boot. Okay, now for US.

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Speaker 3: High country high that's the year round.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what I think is hip hop

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Speaker 1: and black culture. If we're talking boots, it's the boots

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Speaker 1: with the fur. Everybody was her Hello, she hits the blow. Hello,

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Speaker 1: next thing you know they got.

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Speaker 3: I just want to warn everybody ahead of time. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: it's wire gets loose.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna do that, And the sound just vanishes.

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Speaker 2: We are not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: First, I don't hate on my vocals, shake it, and

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Speaker 1: yes I fucked up those lyrics. But the boots with

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Speaker 1: the fur, to me, is is black culture. Like white

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Speaker 1: women aren't putting boots with fur on unless it's uggs

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Speaker 1: and then they're wearing a little mini skirt with that.

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Speaker 3: Bitch and they're working.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Not. I'm just saying if I, if I, if I

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Speaker 3: see a cocke on women, I'm assuming not that they

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Speaker 3: ever do you? I want to be clear, do you?

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Speaker 3: But my first thought, the quiet thought to myself, will be.

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Speaker 2: Hm hmm, listen, listen, listen.

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Speaker 1: Well you know King Kylie is out, so the and

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Speaker 1: and then we got Alabama Barker, we got the white

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Speaker 2: I don't think Drake does that. But when I say because.

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Speaker 3: You're not putting up a good fight, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Fight, you saying that, Wait, black women are putting up

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Speaker 1: a fight to keep our culture.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to certain people, y'all, y'all elevate you see,

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Speaker 3: we don't know, we don't we don't elevate them.

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Speaker 1: If somebody crossing, do you hear this black king talking

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Speaker 1: about how black women are?

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Speaker 2: Do you hear this?

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Speaker 3: No? No, see, don't twist now.

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Speaker 1: Well, we listen before we get into some pod talk,

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Speaker 1: and this is America. If you're listening to this, it's Friday.

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Speaker 1: If you are in Atlanta, Georgia, pull up on me

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Speaker 1: tomorrow or Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I'll be there.

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Speaker 1: I'll be at the one Music Fest here in Atlanta, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and I will actually be on stage with my DJ

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Speaker 1: DJ jazz Et from the radio station Hot one on

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Speaker 1: seven nine. Thank you. We'll be doing the set. Let

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Speaker 1: me pull up my phone. We'll be doing the set

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Speaker 1: with the girlies, y'all. It's really interesting. I ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: talk too much shit right now because I ain't on

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Speaker 1: stage yet, but just know Rashida is closing out the

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Speaker 1: set and so if you want to chew on her

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Speaker 1: bubble gum, you could come and see her. But let me, guys,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you what chew bubble gum that's talking about,

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Speaker 1: Like Eyo pussy. You an'll know the lyrics from Rashida.

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Speaker 2: This is an old song.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, y'all, you could catch me on the Southern Ladies set.

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Speaker 1: Shut up, you can catch me on the Southern Ladies

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Speaker 1: set at the One Music Fest. I'll be introducing bank Row, Knee,

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Speaker 1: Flip a t Kin, the Man, Rashida, it does say

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Speaker 1: and more. I can't let you know who the and

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Speaker 1: more is, but we do have the Southern Ladies set

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Speaker 1: happening on Saturday, so you could come see me on

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Speaker 1: this his age and you know, why are you?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? It's it's it's really interesting.

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Speaker 3: I never felt older until you say them names. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know so you always joke about I know you

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Speaker 3: when you say them names.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold you the I know Rashida from

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Speaker 1: Love and Hip Hop, and I know Kim the Man.

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Speaker 1: She was supposed to come on decisions, decisions back when

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Speaker 1: it was even horrible decisions. I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: The other woman, the first one I said, sings I'm

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Speaker 1: so atl I'm so mind you. I just found out

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Speaker 1: I'm so atl is not I'm so Atlanta. It's I'm

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Speaker 1: so about that life. And this is where I'm like

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Speaker 1: a bitch is old. I'm so about that life is

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Speaker 2: As their own.

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Speaker 1: So, Barry, I want you to know, even though you

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Speaker 1: have me by about five decades, I too, it was like.

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Speaker 2: Who are we introducing?

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Speaker 1: But I also feel like it's a geographical thing. I

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Speaker 1: think living in like, I would know a Connie Diamond,

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Speaker 1: a Billy b Alula Brook Like, because I've been in

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Speaker 1: New York for so long, I know the New York

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Speaker 1: rap girlies.

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Speaker 2: I don't know these Southern girlies just yet.

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Speaker 3: Can I make requests what, Barry, that you do your

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Speaker 3: homework on them so when they come onto the red carpet,

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Speaker 3: you can know their names. And then I don't want

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Speaker 3: I don't want you to say, hey, introduce yourself to

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Speaker 3: happen because no one likes that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, y'all don't have heard me already talk

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Speaker 1: about my experience with that.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to work.

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Speaker 1: When when I meet these ladies, they gonna think I'm

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Speaker 1: their biggest fan.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna know everything about them.

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Speaker 1: They husbands, they booz if they married, if they not,

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Speaker 1: They hit songs, they be cuts.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm periods.

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Speaker 3: Just the least you can do as a professional.

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Speaker 2: It's the least you could do. So I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: listening to.

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Speaker 1: Those songs all week preparing myself for this weekend. I'm

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Speaker 1: also really excited. I did wanna let you guys know

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Speaker 1: excited to see this weekend. Really excited. Black Thought is

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Speaker 1: taking the stage with Marriage Flies, Buster Rhymes and have

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Speaker 1: It for Mob Deep. So really excited for that set

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Speaker 1: that Saturday night too, So I'm gonna beat her all day.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is that I know you don't want

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Speaker 2: This isn't potting at this point. This is a reality show.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I guess when you have fifty eleven

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Speaker 1: sometimes you're agitated. I mean me and Wheezy sometimes will

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00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: record six episodes in the span of two days. So

442
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: you have things that you're dealing with in your personal life.

443
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: You have maybe a tone or an inflection or something

444
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: that bothered you three hours ago that's now like affecting

445
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: you in current time.

446
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 2: I think it was interesting to see. I'm not mad

447
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 2: that it wasn't cut out.

448
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: I do absolutely hate Native land hopping in this to

449
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: shade or pretty much like push people even away from

450
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: supporting a platform like.

451
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: This because they thought it was so bad. Because I

452
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: don't think any black platform, any black creative podcasts or

453
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: show should be talking down on another one. I will

454
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: say that.

455
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: Secondly, I don't like the divide, and I will align

456
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: myself with issus thoughts here where.

457
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: Shut up.

458
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: But Flip Flip may not have the degrees, but he's

459
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: built a multimillion dollar business. And so when we get

460
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: into the classiest discussion or the intellectual discussion and breakdown

461
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: of black people, it was almost triggering to me because

462
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: of this Florida education.

463
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Twang that I have, even though I have two degrees.

464
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: Because I discuss sex, there's a lot of people who

465
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: diminish what I'm able to accomplish and who I am

466
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: as a black woman speaking on a platform and what

467
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: I've been able to do simply because they feel like

468
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: I lack education, which is not the case. But again,

469
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: this idea that a degree puts you above someone else,

470
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,239
Speaker 1: I didn't like the classes talk from it.

471
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: I'm also.

472
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: Completely against because people do it to me and weasy

473
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: with decisions, decisions a lot, watching clips and making the

474
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: assumptions of who a person is, what they are, they're characteristics,

475
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: and for all of them to acknowledge that they never

476
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: watch the show and only take it from that. It

477
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: was discussing how they talked about Flip because I know

478
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: that I've been discussed in that fashion and you don't

479
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: know me, you don't watch the show, Like how dare you,

480
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: as another black person get on a microphone and diminish

481
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: another black person as if we're not fighting for our

482
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: lives facts?

483
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 3: The thing is, I mean, And we talked about the

484
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: pod as soon as Mark got on there, and we

485
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 3: were kind of and I've always expected him, like I'm

486
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: on the pod, but I definitely got introduced to a

487
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: new Mark since he's been on there.

488
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: The Dark Hill.

489
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: The thing is and I'm gonna say this and hopefully

490
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: he'll take it in love. My man is slick talking

491
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: and it's not it's not the big words thing. I mean,

492
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: I could keep up with anything he's talking about. The topic,

493
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: you know, me the little zingers, and I think that's

494
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 3: what the problem is. I mean, that's that's where this

495
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: all builds. I mean, there may be money issues that

496
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: behind the scene. There may be bigger issues behind the

497
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: scene that they Flip is real quick to drop hints

498
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: about stuff and that being annoying to people who are

499
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: trying to keep stuff on the loan. But if anybody

500
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: who truly watched that or even the lead up going

501
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: back two months, maybe yeah, RK be eating him alive

502
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 3: with the jokes. Eat you don't even pause, he don't

503
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: break you, no sip sip tea to hit him with

504
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: four lines and Flip be like ready to go.

505
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie, And that's just what it is.

506
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: But to me, to me, that's like, I mean, whether

507
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: it's what they do in Philly, I know in Florida,

508
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: John and somebody is like, you know, you gotta be

509
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: quick with the old with how you gonna talk to somebody?

510
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: I think that the issue and why even this shit

511
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: be tricky is because if you ain't listening, you ain't

512
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna catch it.

513
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: This is true, it'd be it do be like real

514
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: smooth down.

515
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes it's dead and they faces.

516
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: It is and they don't care.

517
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 3: He's been so he does it so frequently. If I

518
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: was them, I would be listening to everyone. I would

519
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: be staying at Brother in the eye twenty four seven

520
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: like he was that the I picked up on that,

521
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: and that's why, and especially talking about Evelyn and all

522
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: them they capped for their brother. Yes, I'm saying that

523
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: Mark was the villain, but and then we kind of

524
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: talked about this, that escalation was seventy percent Mark.

525
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

526
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: And if you're just gonna get caught up in the

527
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: educational smart intellectual thing and ignore how we got there,

528
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 3: that's what happened with black people all the time. They

529
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: show their arrest, but they don't show the crime.

530
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: You know what this makes me think of which I

531
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: hate to the conversation around being the bigger person because

532
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: I think essentially like people would have thought or assumed

533
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: that Mark in that instance should have just been the

534
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: bigger person. I feel like and brushed it off, and

535
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I think he did maybe act out of character for

536
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: and here's why, out of character well, or showed his character.

537
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: But here's my thing. Right, if this same conversation happened

538
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: in a CNN room, would he have showed his character

539
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: like that in front of a white man and so?

540
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: But by point and so to me, when we're talking

541
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: about black podcasters down in other black podcasters, let's be

542
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: very clear, Joe is not innocent here. Joe has talked about,

543
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Joe has talked about, Joe has talked about a lot

544
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: of Now he is, That's exactly what he's doing.

545
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: But if you're going to sit here and talk about

546
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: how these people can't have an opinion on Flip and

547
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: how Flip runs this business, and how Flip isn't dumb

548
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: or neanderthal or all these things, I think the same

549
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: thing can be said about how Joe has critiqued.

550
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: Nori and uh, Gillian Wallow and all of these other

551
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: black podcasters. Anyway, right now, I want to go back

552
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: to the being the bigger person, because if we're talking

553
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: about a ssentially black on black crime, I think that

554
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: the way we show up even with our peers, if

555
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna be the bigger person in a room full

556
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: of white people, Like I don't know, I just feel

557
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: like there has to be some level of saying with

558
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: your chests, like I said last week, like but be

559
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: consistent across.

560
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 2: The board or to me, I don't know.

561
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: This is this was given show your ass, and I

562
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: think he showed his ass. And to me, I just

563
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: think that there's more power in controlling yourself with these whites,

564
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: which clearly didn't fuck with him anyway because of whatever

565
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: anti Semitic things that they claimed he said.

566
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: And why he lost his position over there.

567
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: I just feel like the way he stood up ready

568
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: to fight, flip, you're not gonna tell me there hasn't

569
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: been things set in those rooms full of white people,

570
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: and that he responded the same way. I don't believe

571
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: that he might do that.

572
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: Not just we both watched the pot. We watch all

573
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: kind of pots, but we watched we do well. I listen,

574
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: I'll give you that where those the word sucker lad

575
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: lie on the list of everything you've ever heard on

576
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 3: that podcast, I'm assuming everybody, and it looked like it

577
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: everybody was shocked.

578
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: That it meant that much. Yeah, the sucker part, Yeah, I.

579
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: Mean, and you can see their faces, your boy, and that.

580
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: Was like, you know what it's given, you know what

581
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: it's given. Actually, okay, so sucker is not a crazy word.

582
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: I do want to respect Mark's marriage at this point,

583
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: but I feel like a woman back in the day

584
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: broke his.

585
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Heart and it got back that.

586
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: She called him a sucker to somebody and broke him.

587
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: This is all allegedly, This is all just me coming

588
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: up with a conspiracy theory as to why this work

589
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: meant so much.

590
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: It's given. It's given that a woman in the in

591
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: the biggest.

592
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: Rejection that probably he's ever felt in life, called him

593
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: a sucker, rigger than him.

594
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: It's definitely triggered.

595
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 2: Bar What is a what is a fighting word to you?

596
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: Is there a word that would make you like.

597
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: To me spitting act? Is there a word there's the

598
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: six and stones may break my bones, but words will

599
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: never hurt me?

600
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: Bullshit?

601
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: Is there an actual word that someone could call you

602
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: that is immediate fighting words?

603
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: As a man?

604
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: I would say me personally because I had angry issues

605
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: as a kid. As I said, the second I've done

606
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 3: to counseling, done the work that there's probably not a

607
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: word now, but a non black person using the N

608
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: word aggressively.

609
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I know.

610
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: I would have an out about experience.

611
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I actually as yes, And you know what in

612
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: all of my iracialists say, don't hard e r me

613
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: in a disagreement anywhere?

614
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, hold on anywhere but the airport. Someone

615
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: can get away.

616
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Someone can get away with calling

617
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: me a hard e r in the airport because you're

618
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 1: not getting y'all no fly bro. I promise that you're

619
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: not getting me on.

620
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: A You know that Bell got.

621
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: Hold on Barry. Are you ready?

622
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: You could hard e r me and I could see

623
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: a hundred of these up and call me pussy bitch.

624
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm walking away and y'all can talk about me hard

625
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: e r me in the airport. I'm not ending up

626
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: on a no fly list. So anywhere else, though, you

627
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: getting these hands, but I'm not gonna hold you. I'm

628
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: not fighting in the airport.

629
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what the black version of Carren is.

630
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: That's that's when you gotta go. Oh my god, I

631
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: need black girl tears. I need your west side to

632
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: just drop that single tip like Denzel.

633
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: I can't believe you called me the headwork.

634
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: And just lie stare in the camera. Get to get

635
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: the good.

636
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: I gotta get the tears.

637
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I can do that. I can do that, But Barry,

638
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: that's actually what I'm not gonna get up and fight.

639
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: Not at the airport. Saw the video from the nails

640
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: Neils line thing.

641
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: We're not doing that. We're not doing that.

642
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean to me, like I said, I

643
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: think the action was overboard. I'm not mad at Joe

644
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: wanting to capitalize off of it, and and overall, I

645
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: do think Angela Rie, Tiffany Cross, Andrew Gillam. I'm not

646
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: sure Bacari Sellis was on this episode, but I and

647
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: I always say that because from the clip that I watched,

648
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: I didn't see Bakari talking. I only saw the three

649
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: of them, and it's not the clip. I did go

650
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: to the episode because I sent you to two episode.

651
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: But basically, I just think that in this creative space,

652
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: the same way I'm gonna have to know these girls

653
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: that I'm introducing at the One Music Fest on Saturday

654
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: on tomorrow is the same way that I think if

655
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: we're going to critique other creatives, we need to know

656
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: the full story what they could have done is watched

657
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: another episode to see the types of conversations, because to

658
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: be fair, I think Mark is doing a phenomenal job

659
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: bringing other conversations to the platform. I literally tweeted it.

660
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: I was unaware at the outrage coming.

661
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: From those comedians going overseas and what's crazy is y'allill

662
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Speaker 1: hear that. I believe y'all will hear me talk about

663
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: my thoughts now that it's over. I did record an

664
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Speaker 1: episode speaking about it, specifically that y'all will hear on Tuesday,

665
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: so check it out. But I talked about like even

666
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: just being able to hear that, y'all will hear me?

667
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: Give Marcus Flower was again because it allowed me to

668
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: go down the rabbit hole of what it was. Of course,

669
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: my super producers are petty and asked if I would

670
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: ever go to Saudi Arabia.

671
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: I was almost gonna say, what you would do for

672
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: a check, but it's none.

673
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: Of my best I would do a whole lot for you.

674
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. These bills ain't gonna pay themselves.

675
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: This is fact, and baby, I can't.

676
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: Spend this money when I go to heaven, because I'm

677
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 2: going to heaven I'm like Trump, but when I say

678
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: I'll do something strange for a piece of change. God.

679
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: But the one thing on this topic that we really

680
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: haven't discussed, which is kind of there, but it's not there,

681
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: truck me. Obviously, I'm a blurred, a black nerd, got

682
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: the little stuff behind me. Do anim do all the things?

683
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: It's being an intellectual or being smart, or being nerdy

684
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: and being black, And that's kind of I know we've

685
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 3: chosen with these two to choose the intellectual side. It's

686
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: just being different being And this kind of goes to

687
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: the conversation we had with this.

688
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: Wait, you think you and I have chosen to identify

689
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: along the intellectual side.

690
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying the way people have looked at this

691
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 3: between Ish and Mark, that they looked at it.

692
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: You mean flipping Mark, flipping Mark. I don't know why

693
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: I said, yes, you missed this to make it Yes, Okay,

694
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: So yes, they did decide.

695
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: To draw that line and barrier between unfortunately educated blacks

696
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: and uneducated blacks. And I'll say that because that's literally

697
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: what it seemed to be. The fact that they even

698
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: said come back home, is that me and I listened

699
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: to it.

700
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 3: I was like, I mean the the one thing, and

701
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: I think you said you're going to play the club

702
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: from Joe. I mean you know that Joe rad can

703
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: go anywhere. Sometimes.

704
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 2: I told you they can go home.

705
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: I told people they could go listen to that. Joe

706
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: went on a monologue, I entered clips. I'm not inserting

707
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: a monologue from Joe because then I feel like Ian

708
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: might come to me and want a paycheck from this episode.

709
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: So no, I'm not gonna insit in the clip.

710
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: I like what he said, I love that he supported

711
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: and stood up for flipping that in that moment. But

712
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: I think again, it does go back to Barry what

713
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: I was talking about in terms of us constantly drawing

714
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,479
Speaker 1: these lines, the fact that yes, we drew lines even

715
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: between Drake Roal hip hop artists and not real hip

716
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: hop artists. And also what I really don't like is

717
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: we constantly lean into the fact that we as black

718
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: people are not a monolith.

719
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: Right However, we love to align ourselves with.

720
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 1: The struggle, the hood, factors of it, all of these

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00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: things that when also someone like an intellectual like an

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00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: Angela Ry or anyone who's gone to college, then shuns

723
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: the same part of okay, We're not a monolith. I

724
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: think we can all exist. You even identifying as the

725
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: black nerd. Those exist. There's black liberals, there's black conservatives.

726
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: It's why I've also said, don't really care for what

727
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: she says, but don't hate Candace Ouans. I know that

728
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: we like, I love that as black people we can

729
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 1: have all of these different voices and show that we're

730
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: not a monolith. And so when we have black people

731
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: acting like they're better than other black people publicly, you

732
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Speaker 1: know what these whites are doing.

733
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Speaker 2: Seeing I see this, this is what we want it easier,

734
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: like literally.

735
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: But the thing that's so funny, I mean, like I said,

736
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 3: we both watched Mark Sincy been on there. I don't

737
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: know if Angela and really know him, if they are

738
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: the way they were talking about it, like every day

739
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: he's holding the Bible and reading the young kids from

740
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: guys and to make sure they're I mean, that's not

741
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: completely who he is. He has passions that way. He's

742
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: an activist definitely, but he's hood. He's the first one

743
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Speaker 3: to say it. And the thing that's so funny, knowing

744
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: the audience, knowing knowing the podcast people is what you

745
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: can do from this spectator role. They all have a

746
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: street embraced street code, a brother willing to fight over

747
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: the words suck, crazy. They all should have had an opinion,

748
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: and none of them said it out loud. Your girl,

749
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 3: MoMA was the closest one of saying that you are

750
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: as for that, because the other world, if they were

751
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: telling if this happened on another pod and they were

752
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: telling the story exactly the way they happened here, they

753
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: would have called Mark every kind of soft thing in.

754
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Speaker 1: The world, because how you getting that emotional and irate

755
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: off the word sucker?

756
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: Which is why their role to which is why my theory,

757
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: y'all let's just blame women.

758
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: That's what black men like to do anyways, And so

759
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm leaning into that logic saying that a woman broke

760
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: that man's heart.

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Speaker 3: My headphones again, I don't know the zoom. Can you

762
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: hear me?

763
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: We're not doing that. We're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get into celebrities. Say the darnis

765
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: things y'all were talking about. Kevin McCall versus Chris Brown

766
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: and if you've been under a rock, bitch, I don't

767
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: know what to tell you. Basically, Kevin McCall if you

768
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: do not know, hold on, let me let me give

769
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: you guys the correct background.

770
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: Because of course, Barry, who was born.

771
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: In nineteen twelve, wasn't really sure about who Kevin McCall was.

772
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 2: So let me get into explaining that to you. Y'all

773
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: already know I have a breakdown.

774
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: Here here we go. So Kevin McCall, for those of

775
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: you who do not know, is a producer, singer, slash writer.

776
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 2: I guess. Hold on, I have a breakdown of him, y'all.

777
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 2: Hol on, mayu mayu mayou? Okay, here we go, all right.

778
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: Kevin McCall is best known as a singer, songwriter, and

779
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: producer associated with Chris Brown's CBE label, most notably for

780
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: co writing, producing, and being featured on Chris Brown's hit

781
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: song Deuces which did Want to gram Me? He also

782
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: was a part of the song nobs Strip and allegedly

783
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: almost thirty other Chris Brown songs. He's been in headlines

784
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: for his very public and past relationship with America's Next

785
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: Top Model and former Real Housewives of Atlanta star Iva Marcill,

786
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: where they share a child together. Now basically this week,

787
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: he was in the headlines twice. Now Bury this part

788
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: you probably don't know.

789
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: So. Earlier this week, it went viral that Bryson Tiller

790
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: gifted Chris Brown a Lamborghini for bringing him onto this

791
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 2: stadium tour that did end up grossing over one hundred

792
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: million dollars.

793
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: Right wait, you went to the show? Yes, when I

794
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: say he ate y'all, if you ever get the chance,

795
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: like not even on No, we're gonna talk about Chris

796
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: Brown like he's Michael Jackson right now. But if you

797
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: ever get the opportunity, because you love live music, you

798
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: love a performer, Chris Brown needs to be on your

799
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: bucket list. If you have not seen him perform live yet,

800
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: I've got to see him perform shit four times in

801
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: the last two years because I went two or three

802
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: times to the.

803
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: Eleven eleven tour.

804
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I've never paid for I've actually I've

805
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: been seeing I've been seeing Chris Brown perform live since

806
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: like twenty twelve. I've been a really really big fan

807
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: of his. I know his team. We're not cousins, but

808
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: i know his cousin and so you know, I've been around.

809
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: What I'll just say, you know, you know wow, what

810
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: listen well and shout out to al Prada, who used

811
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: to be his tour manager. But I've been seeing him

812
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: perform his albums and so it was amazing, like literally

813
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: being able to see him go from be like right

814
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: after right after everything happened with him and Rihanna. I

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00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: remember going to a show that he did it like

816
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: an amphitheater in Dallas, and so to see him go

817
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: from an amphitheater to even seeing him in an arena.

818
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: I got to see him at Barclay last year as

819
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: well as State Farm Arena, and then got to see

820
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: him at MetLife. It was like it made me feel

821
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: like how I felt when I got to see J

822
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: Cole perform at Rolling Loud in front of one hundred

823
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: thousand people. Because back in twenty ten, I paid twenty

824
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: dollars to skip the line after paying only like twenty

825
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: dollars for my ticket at Revolution Live in Fort Lauderdale

826
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: to see J Cole perform. Was this was this born tickets,

827
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: This was this was first off for J Cole before

828
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: now I'm technically dream bill. I traveled and paid for

829
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,479
Speaker 1: everything J Cole. I buy his albums and everything. Chris

830
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: Brown is one of those artists I do the same

831
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: for it but basically getting back to the beef at.

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Speaker 3: Hand, let me add one comment.

833
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 2: Please please, please please, I mean.

834
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Speaker 3: Especially even my age, and we don't have to go

835
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Speaker 3: through the list.

836
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Speaker 2: But he's ninety six years old.

837
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: And I study music more than I study podcasts. He

838
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: has demanded the shuffling of the top five performers of

839
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: all time of a lot of times. I'm not going

840
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 3: to say who where, but.

841
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: Damn he does about to make you do the list.

842
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 3: I was about to be like, I know you were,

843
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: and I'm not going on the regular.

844
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: Name four people better than Chris Brown after.

845
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: But I'm not saying who's who and where's anybody you?

846
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: If you are truly a fan, you have to look

847
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: at the top five again. Yeah, okay, at least considerate.

848
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 3: You have to at least consider it.

849
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: Can I know who else is in that top five

850
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: that you're putting? Chris Brown was?

851
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: The Reddit don't even know me yet. The Twitter's very black.

852
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: Twitter does not know me yet, And I don't want

853
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: this to be I know he didn't. This will not

854
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: be where I'm introduced to them.

855
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: I will say.

856
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it because it's already been done. But

857
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let it be known.

858
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: That I agree with him.

859
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: Ty Dolla Sign recently went on a podcast and oh,

860
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: I think it was Drink Champs. Actually, so ty Dolla Sign,

861
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: who was a part of also writing some top hits

862
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: by Chris Brown, literally said he had the best stadium

863
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: tour this year, after saying and I went to all

864
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: of them, So I do want to say that means

865
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: Ti Dallas Sign and myself believe that Chris Brown's show.

866
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: Was better than Actually I didn't go to both of them,

867
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: but was better than Kendrick Lamar and Scissors gen X,

868
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 2: and was better than Beyonce's country tour.

869
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: Now I'm a big Bee fan, but I'm not in

870
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: the country, so I didn't go the proclamation. That's a

871
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: full argument. We would have to get a meal and

872
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: sit down and talk.

873
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: Did you go to Renaissance? Yes, okay, so what how

874
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: would you compare.

875
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: Even starting with Kendrick. Kendrick and Siss crushed it. It

876
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 3: was just a different energy, Okay. It was just a

877
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: different energy. I mean from the Christ Show, even though

878
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 3: he did some of his ballads. He did a lot

879
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: of his ballads he did that was a long, high energy.

880
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: But the way Kendrick. I mean even if you just

881
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: watched the clips from Kendrick's on his world tour to

882
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: be across Europe and them, it was a different vibe.

883
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: It was just a different I mean it was both

884
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: both for hip hop. Yeah yeah, but it was just

885
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 3: it's like doing jazz and doing hip hop.

886
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: You can't compare these black tours.

887
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: He really want to say, maybe didn't you just say

888
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: these black creatives can't talk about other black creatives. Well,

889
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: we gotta put the other black creatives down, crazy, because

890
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: I'm not playing any of them down. I do think

891
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: Beyonce's I went to the Renaissance Show twice and to me,

892
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: while Chris Brown is, I would say the better performer

893
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: from going to that, I mean different types of for sure.

894
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: But I will say nobody, no show that I've ever

895
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: been to you, I've been to a lot. The graphics

896
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: and stage design of Beyonce are untouched. This is true, bro, Beyonce.

897
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: And I'm watching these videos and these photo shoots and

898
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: I say, Fitch, you in about fifty eleven different looks

899
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: so like and the way it goes, and she when

900
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: I say, I've never seen production value like I saw

901
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: from Beyonce production value and listen, you know our tour, Barry.

902
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: I'll be trying to be like, can we get a

903
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: graphic designer to make our visuals look like Beyonce?

904
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: Bitch, Like what is the budget? God, damn, they look good.

905
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: Not to be nostalgic, not to tap into the given.

906
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: When Mike passed, when he was working on that big

907
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: tour and I saw the I know, they made a

908
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: little documentary movie out of it. This that that looked

909
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: like it was gonna be the greatest of all time.

910
00:49:54,480 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: But since it didn't happen, I do see renaissances. Yeah,

911
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 3: if you did. You see the Michael Jackson movie clip

912
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: of him preparing for the tour, I think this is it.

913
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: I might have to look at it, but I'll even

914
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: say I don't know if it would capture because I

915
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: did see the Renaissance trust. Yeah, but I saw the

916
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: Renaissance like documentary, right, and seeing them preparing for what

917
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: the show was and then seeing.

918
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: What it became.

919
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could visually understand what the

920
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: show was because the behind the scenes of that Renaissance

921
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: documentary didn't encapsulate what the finished product actually ended up being.

922
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: Credit, I am saying you're gonna drop tears on the

923
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: behind the scenes. Watch his famous quote, You've heard it

924
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: a hundred times, you just didn't see it. Michael's working

925
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 3: with one of his music directors and he's trying to

926
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: wrestle and everything. He's like such, let us sizzle Jay

927
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: is used that verse a couple of times. It is

928
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: watch it. I'm just gonna say we don't watch it.

929
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch it, but we can shuffle the top five. Okay.

930
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: Well, basically getting back to Kevin McCall and Chris Brown,

931
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: he went on the back on fig podcast Slash live

932
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: stream with Trel Smack.

933
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: Heather wasn't there, but shout out that's fam over there.

934
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: On the West Coast, and he sat with them and

935
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: pretty much burst into tears.

936
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: I am gonna insert the clip here in case you

937
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: haven't heard it. That was the clip.

938
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: Was exciting.

939
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: Shut up, shut up, shut up.

940
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: But basically, yeah, he cried about having to be on

941
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: b BT EBT and pretty much said that Chris Brown

942
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: owes him. Can he get twenty five thousand dollars for whatever?

943
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: Four songs apparently he's owed money from because he just

944
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: paid ninety you know he just had a ninety plus

945
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: million dollars tore. It was given pocket watching, for sure,

946
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: but it was also given like my nigga, get the

947
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: fuck on, Like who says it all the time? Hold on,

948
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: if you made me, go make another one. If you've

949
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: made this hit, make another one if you if you

950
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: did it, do it again to me?

951
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: Yes, of course.

952
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: However it did come out because now clips every surface

953
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: that a couple of years ago he sold his back

954
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: catalog or he sold his publishing for five hundred thousand dollars.

955
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: He talked about on a Vlad interview that he blew

956
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: millions of dollars.

957
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: He was complaining about paying child support. He's allegedly a

958
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: woman beater.

959
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: And has also not seen his children and damn near

960
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: a decade now he does not have custody and has

961
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: not seen his children with Eva Marcile, who's the former

962
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Atlanta star And as y'all know, there

963
00:52:54,480 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: is no empathy for me with a nigga who did it.

964
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: Do the paperwork?

965
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: What you want me to do? If you made these millions,

966
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 2: you spent it, you sold your publishing. What is old

967
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: to you, bro?

968
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: And then to me to know that I do think

969
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: you unwell like he Also when when when when? When

970
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: bryceon Taller gifted Chris Brown O lambo, He out right

971
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: on the internet talk about some light skin bussy alluding

972
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: that Chris Brown was gay.

973
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: He also recent tweets have resurfaced where he pretty much

974
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: said that Chris Brown and his daughter would be in

975
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: a casket like he just he just said some unforgiven ship.

976
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: Now would you interview him?

977
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I would interview damn near anyone. However, I,

978
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: and this is gonna sound problematic, do not want to

979
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: sit with an unwell person. I barely have conversations with

980
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: my own biological sister because I don't think that having

981
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: a conversation with someone and promoting a conversation with someone

982
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: who is unstable or unwell or maybe unmedicated or undiagnosed,

983
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 1: is not something that I feel right in my spirit

984
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: to do. And so, because he clearly has these manic

985
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: outbursts and episodes and things like that, unless he chooses

986
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: to do the path of therapy and medication like we

987
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: just heard Gucci Mane discussed on The Breakfast Club this

988
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: past week, unless he's taking steps.

989
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: To be better, Nah I'm good.

990
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: And the fact that he went on there crying, begging

991
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: for money is if literally, a couple days before he

992
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: didn't call that nigga gay online, Get the fuck out

993
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: of it now. I wanted to ask you, because I don't

994
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: like really talking about people. I wanted to ask you,

995
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: what was barry? What could someone do to burn a

996
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: bridge that you would not rebuild? And I asked that

997
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: because literally Chris Brown's response was boy like, he hold

998
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: on and I actually have what he said. Chris Brown

999
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: actually responded and said, remember this. You can't walk across

1000
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: a burnt bridge. And you know what's funnier than a troll,

1001
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: a broke one. I know that's right.

1002
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: Ah, Now, you ain't gotta kick him. You ain't got

1003
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: to kick him. Let him be down.

1004
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no no. If you take it low with me,

1005
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm taking it to hell.

1006
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: So I love Chris Brown for that response, because, bitch,

1007
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: we're not reburning this month, We're not rebuilding this bridge

1008
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: that you burn, nigga.

1009
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: But if you win and you could just keep walking,

1010
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: Chris got so much going on in his life this

1011
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: shouldn't even make CAD.

1012
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: Now, Hey, you know what it is, Chris is rich, bitch,

1013
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: and just like me, I work as hard as I

1014
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: do so that I can respond to be petty like

1015
00:55:59,000 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: he does.

1016
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: Like he's like me.

1017
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm not having sympathy for you, my nigga. You talked

1018
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: about my kids, you talked about my life, and now

1019
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: you're sitting here begging me for money. Nigga, what you

1020
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: need to do is go stuck up on canned goods

1021
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: because allegedly EBT and SNAP is about to end coming

1022
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: November first. It's this government shut down don't come to

1023
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: a close. So you need to go getting non go

1024
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: get nonperishables, which with whatever is left on your balance.

1025
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: Sorry, I mean, wow, wow, I mean the's people out

1026
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: there in hard times.

1027
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I mean, I'm only being betty to him.

1028
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: I do, I do. I know there's about four point

1029
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: five million households that are about to be affected with that.

1030
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: But what he needs to do is go figure out

1031
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: what food pantries he needs to go sign up for

1032
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: instead of crying on this motherfucking pod.

1033
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 3: Is real, that's real. I never there is no entitlement

1034
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 3: in my world. No one in my world is entitled

1035
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: to anything. I have two adulting daughters. I have their back,

1036
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 3: but they're not absolutely entitled to anything. I just love them,

1037
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: so I give and support them. And no matter who

1038
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 3: it is to be talking about Rockefeller, whatever, was like,

1039
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: you owe me, you owe me. I hate that I

1040
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: watched the five Harbach just like you. And when Eddie

1041
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 3: came tried to get back in the bands like bruh,

1042
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: no I can sing. Nope, I'm sorry. You're on your own, Barry.

1043
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a bridge burnt and somebody tried

1044
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: to come and walk over that bridge?

1045
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: And what did they do for the bridge to be burned?

1046
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: I'll be personal, but I won't go into I know

1047
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: they heard I haven't talked to my father actively for

1048
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: like ten years, but okay, that's family stuff, so I

1049
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 3: leave it there. Okay, but I've had friends. If you

1050
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: betray me, you betrayed. I'm a giver of friends. I

1051
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 3: know you talk about the too. You support your friends, Yes,

1052
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: not to me things, but if you betray me for real,

1053
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: for real?

1054
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: What is a betrayal? Is it a lie that they

1055
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: slept with an egg says that they sold from you?

1056
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: What does betrayal look like?

1057
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: There was one friend who and I didn't have a lot,

1058
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: but I gave for him to attendant event with us.

1059
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 3: It was traveling the whole thing, and I paid money

1060
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 3: to help them go. Stay Perry. I got it. When

1061
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 3: we get back to blah blah blah, and of course

1062
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: we get back any ghosty and he kind of my

1063
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: face with it. And I was actually in the position

1064
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 3: of authority at the time, so I couldn't just show

1065
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: out because I had to protect my role and just

1066
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: the reputation and everybody knew and it was kind of public,

1067
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 3: so like tricky. So he just gonna in your face

1068
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: that happy hour buying the shrimps and everything, and I was.

1069
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: Like, but it was happy hour. It was only five dollars.

1070
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: I see now you know you ain't paid.

1071
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: Very sad Very said in Atlanta, nigga, they got crab

1072
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: claws for five dollars over at the Boogoloo.

1073
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: I can't believe the South these prices.

1074
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: The food can't be real here because the way they

1075
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: are pricing this food during a happy hour is unreal.

1076
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: Got unlimited crab legs as much as you could eat

1077
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: for dollars unlimited, nigga.

1078
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna turn into a crab.

1079
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: So when you when you get my ticket to the show. Listen,

1080
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take it. Y'all hurt everybody time stamped this.

1081
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: You know, she gets to edit it, She get to

1082
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: edit and things. I'm gonna make sure we remember. At

1083
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: this point, at minute one hundred, she said she got me.

1084
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 3: I just I'm real big about my word. You can

1085
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: talk about me. Don't like something. You know you've been

1086
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 3: in the WHR High They cracked jokes every day every day.

1087
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: Don't don't say that I said something that I didn't say,

1088
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: because all I can do is stand on my words,

1089
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 3: stand on my truth, stand on my honesty, stand on

1090
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 3: my faith. And for you to say I said something,

1091
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 3: he did something, say I broke somebody my word to

1092
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 3: somebody that bothers. It's not calling me a sucker, I mean,

1093
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: because that's them fighting words. But uh, that's my only

1094
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: real thing. I mean, everybody's like playing the gay jokes.

1095
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,479
Speaker 3: I'm not gay, I'm at aosexual, but those little things,

1096
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: the mama jokes. I mean, I was in Saint Louis,

1097
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 3: you were raised on those things. I am dark skinned.

1098
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 3: To me, I'm very dark skinned. This camera doesn't show

1099
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 3: how I'm dark being black in the black community.

1100
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: This camera don't show how dark I am me. It's

1101
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: kind of crazy.

1102
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't show how I know you didn't took the

1103
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: dimmer down. We all know, we all know you didn't

1104
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: got that O. I'm like, that light looks like it's

1105
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: she by candlelight just to make sure it's not too bright,

1106
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: and I got a wle serpent light. But just I mean,

1107
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 3: it's just that's my only real thing. I mean for you,

1108
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: I know you you you a disrespect person. We all

1109
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: we all know what it is. I don't know, just

1110
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 3: like you talk about Mark, I don't know who disrespected

1111
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 3: you at some point in your life.

1112
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: Everybody, but I've been I've been an underdog. I've been

1113
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: fighting my whole life. My whole life, I had to fight.

1114
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 3: And even though why you said that, what what accent

1115
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 3: was that? That was in no way whiopy know about it?

1116
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, let me live. You know how bad

1117
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: with accents? Okay? But any real quick, I guess to

1118
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: wrap this up, I do you feel sorry for Kevin? Should?

1119
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: Should you bring grace to this cookout? Should should?

1120
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: I think anybody can ask for a handout. I think

1121
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 3: anybody can ask for sisters. I think it does not

1122
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 3: mean and you should not guilt try to guilt them,

1123
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: nor should you attack them at for whatever reason they said. No,

1124
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: if I had ten dollars, and I refuse to give

1125
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: you your ten dollars, if they were having a contractor

1126
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 3: speed about. You didn't pay me from this album, you

1127
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: didn't pay me from the writiness, it would be one thing.

1128
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 3: That's one blue mind. Yep, not only saved George but

1129
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 3: kept making more. I need you to make me right,

1130
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 3: make me whole again, though you've already paid me. Yeah,

1131
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 3: me and not five dollars he said, he blew millions.

1132
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 2: He blew millions, and then it was on that pot

1133
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 2: asking for twenty five thousand.

1134
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: Right.

1135
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: Anyways, Kevin McCall, sir, go and find a therapist. That

1136
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: is going to be the final word on that. And

1137
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, don't give that nigga a dot.

1138
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 3: That's not my business. If you want to give him money,

1139
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 3: just know what's your choice. It's your grace.

1140
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: Is giving that nigga a broke troll? I love it.

1141
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 3: I love it, brokie Christmas is coming be good.

1142
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm I mean whatever.

1143
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: Anyways, before we got out of here, I did get

1144
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: an email over to the email again if you want

1145
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: to submit, and am I ignorant? If you have a

1146
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: question or you feel like you are ignorant, maybe you're

1147
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: not and you want me to help decide, make sure

1148
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: you send that over to Selective Ignorance pod pod at

1149
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That Selective ignorancepod at gmail dot com.

1150
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: Now this one, I ain't gonna say your name, sis,

1151
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: but this is what she had to say. And I

1152
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: love that Barry is here to help me decipher this.

1153
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: So if you recall last week, I read a thread

1154
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: of a woman who secretly chose to have an abortion

1155
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: of a baby from a man that she's with, who

1156
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: she believed to be perfect, who she made the decision

1157
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: without talking to him. And so this is what this

1158
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: listener had to say. All right, this is our classmate here. So,

1159
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: by the way, there's a lot of o's on this

1160
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: to start this, so I feel like she already know

1161
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: where we're going.

1162
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: So, Mandy, I just finished listening and I had to

1163
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: write in lol, because I've been in home Girl's position.

1164
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: I too aborted a pregnancy from a good man who

1165
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: checks off most women's checklists.

1166
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: He was considered a good catch.

1167
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: A forty year old man that has no kids and

1168
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: wanted some badly, especially with me. But I just couldn't

1169
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: see me spending my life with him because as good

1170
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: as he was, there were things about him I just

1171
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: didn't love. And I wasn't trying to create a broken home.

1172
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: If I have kids, I want to have a family.

1173
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: Suck.

1174
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: I aborted and never told him about it, and it

1175
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: wasn't to protect him. It was because I knew he

1176
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: would have begged and maybe even tried to press me

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01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: to keep it. So I don't know, are we ignorant

1178
01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: for that?

1179
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: Think so?

1180
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: But I feel like that's what it that It was

1181
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: for her too. She knows he would try to convince

1182
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: her otherwise, and her mind was made up. I'm not

1183
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: saying it's right by no means, but sometimes.

1184
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: We have to do what's right for us.

1185
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: Now, I'm just gonna read you real quick, sis, and

1186
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read all these bitches out here who fucking

1187
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: on niggas that they don't really fully like, that they

1188
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: don't want to procreate with. Do you want to know

1189
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: what's ignorant fucking these motherfucker's raw? How about if you

1190
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: want to take the ignorance out of it. If you

1191
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: are having sex and laying down with a man that

1192
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: you don't want to procreate with, bitch, wrap it up,

1193
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: use a condom, or simple as much, get on birth control.

1194
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 1: This idea that you don't want to create a book

1195
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: a broken home, yet you would rather lay on a

1196
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: table and go through an abortion and possibly not only

1197
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: impact your body, but literally do something that you know

1198
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: would affect this man.

1199
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: If you are having sex.

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01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: With a man that wants children and you don't want

1201
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: children with him, the ignorant part is having sex with

1202
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: him raw literally wrap it up and make the safe, respectable,

1203
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: non ignorant decision and literally using some sort of barrier

1204
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: and birth control. Because I do think the ignorant part

1205
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: about how we are moving in today's society with the

1206
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: laws that are keeping us from really choosing if we

1207
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: want to have an abortion or not, especially in certain

1208
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: red states, the health that we're impacting on ourselves, and

1209
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: the emotional impact that we can have on others when

1210
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: literally our body our choice. If you know you don't

1211
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: want to have a baby with a man, the logical

1212
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: thing to do would be is just to wrap it up,

1213
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: simple as that Barry what are your thoughts?

1214
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 3: As you know we had this chat and those were

1215
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: a son of I'm like this n word here just

1216
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 3: went first for no reason, but uh, first and foremost

1217
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: safe place. Women's choice, women's rights, your body, your choice,

1218
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 3: hard stop. So there's no cutting this all apart and

1219
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 3: saying something different.

1220
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: But this was.

1221
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: This was triggering in so many ways. The I'm not

1222
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 3: gonna tell him, Yeah.

1223
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 2: Has this happened to you? I mean, clearly you would

1224
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: have known, but you don't tear.

1225
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: I would hope that I had a good enough reputation

1226
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 3: and relationship with anyone I had unprotected sex with that

1227
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 3: they would have felt comfortable having a conversation with me.

1228
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 3: I'm not perfect. I have had unprotected sex before. I

1229
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 3: would hope.

1230
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: Father you a father, nigga.

1231
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: I mean outside of my marriage.

1232
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 2: It is over by the way he said, MS, ladies,

1233
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: here we are.

1234
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 3: It's it's so touchy and I don't want to fall

1235
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 3: into the internet traveler or you hear what he said,

1236
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 3: I it is your choice, but letting. I always ask

1237
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 3: more questions. We talk all the time. We have a

1238
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 3: long thread and I'm I'm never really judging, but I'm

1239
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 3: always asking more questions.

1240
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: Can I ask you though, as you as as a

1241
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: man believing in your body, your choice, and essentially a

1242
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: woman making the final decision, do you then believe that

1243
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: it is a conversation that should be had with the

1244
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: male partner? And then what are your thoughts because both

1245
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: women also express that they felt like they would be

1246
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: gas lit or beg to keep a baby that they

1247
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: didn't want. What what then do you have to say

1248
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: to what that dynamic could look like.

1249
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 3: If you're saying he's perfect, why do you then also

1250
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 3: make the judgment that he would be a jerk about it,

1251
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 3: or he would force you to do this. It's give

1252
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 3: me the give me the right to at least give

1253
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 3: my opinion. I don't think you. I don't think giving

1254
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 3: giving somebody an information takes away their right to make

1255
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 3: the final decision. I would always hope that they would

1256
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 3: give them an honest, true opportunity to give some information.

1257
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean, oh, just have the baby and I'll

1258
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 3: take care of it. I mean that, like you said,

1259
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 3: pregnancy is a risk thing. It's not a small thing.

1260
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 3: So they still have the right to take everything into consideration.

1261
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: But to I mean, just in the two stories, it

1262
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 3: wasn't the jerk who got them, Brandy, it wasn't. That's

1263
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 3: the that's the part that throws me off. The perfect

1264
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 3: guy who wants gets I mean, because we talk about it.

1265
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to get trapped. I don't want to

1266
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 3: him trapping me out on why are you having unprotected

1267
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 3: sets with the perfect person relevant to you? Of course, Well,

1268
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 3: we wants to have kids and you you don't have

1269
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 3: enough trust relationship with him to even tell him that

1270
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:21,879
Speaker 3: you're pregnant.

1271
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

1272
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 3: What was the perfect party? Was the second? You get.

1273
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: Even? In this one?

1274
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: She said that this man was a good man who

1275
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: checked off most women's checklists, like he was considered a

1276
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: good catch, which is which is interesting because also just

1277
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: a forty year old man with no kids that wanted

1278
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: her badly. I don't who wanted who wanted kids badly?

1279
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: I guess he didn't really, she didn't dive into what

1280
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 1: made him a good man. But I guess being forty

1281
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: with no kids makes you eye.

1282
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, it makes you wonder who

1283
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 3: would she wants to have kids with, because she says

1284
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 3: she kind of still I don't know what her decisions

1285
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 3: are being made about when she would have a kid

1286
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 3: or if she would have kept a kid. But yeah,

1287
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 3: based on the scenario that she's putting forward, what was

1288
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: gonna get better?

1289
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1290
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: She she did just mention she couldn't imagine spending the

1291
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: rest of her life with him. But again even that, like,

1292
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: so having unprotected sex with a man that like, I

1293
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: just don't understand y'all the text. So yeah, I do

1294
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: believe that ignorance comes from your decision to lay down

1295
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 1: unprotected with a man that you don't see a future with,

1296
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: let alone a family with, because we do know.

1297
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 3: The consequence of that, you wouldn't be honest with.

1298
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a good point that I mean, I

1299
01:11:59,360 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 2: don't want.

1300
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 3: To touch on abortion rights too much, just honest, open

1301
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 3: communication between a male and a female who are having it.

1302
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: Who are having sex.

1303
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 3: It's just as simple you, I mean, And I know

1304
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 3: it's going to be triggering to some other guys out

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Speaker 3: there and even probably some women out there. This That

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Speaker 3: is what I mean, because if I'm if it was

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Speaker 3: your boy, his right now and I was stepping into

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Speaker 3: his shoes, he would say, but if she had the

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Speaker 3: kid he had, he would have to step up it

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Speaker 3: would be no conversation, no choice, right, But in the

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Speaker 3: reverse of her wanting to do something different, no conversation.

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Speaker 2: No conversation is crazy. Yeah, it is crazy. It is crazy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what makes it hard for everybody who

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Speaker 3: hates the misogynists or whatever term they're using about guys

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Speaker 3: these days, is these moments that you're like, it's not

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Speaker 3: one side it out here. People on both sides are

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Speaker 3: being poor hemans.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because you said being poor humans. We talked

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Speaker 1: about what decision was ignorant. She's not ignorant for this,

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Speaker 1: but with this decision I wanted to go into is

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Speaker 1: this is she a good person or bad person for it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because and last week I talked about morality, and I've

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Speaker 1: also questioned it's what it means to show up as

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Speaker 1: a good person, what it means to show up as

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Speaker 1: a bad person. And I think that in terms of

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Speaker 1: what you owe someone is, especially someone you're sleeping with.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, the bare minimum is an honest conversation,

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Speaker 1: whether it be about your your your feelings, but a

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Speaker 1: lot when you choose to lay in bed and open

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01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: your legs to a man. The bare minimum is being

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01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: able to have an honest conversation about what you're doing

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Speaker 1: with your body because you're allowing them in it. And

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Speaker 1: so it does make you a kind of shitty person

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Speaker 1: to feel like you can pick and choose what things

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Speaker 1: you should about your body, especially with someone that you're

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Speaker 1: laying with.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question to put you

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Speaker 3: on the spot for a second. Make her one of

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Speaker 3: your girlfriends first off, I mean not one of them particularly,

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Speaker 3: but make her a friend. Make her one of your people.

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Speaker 3: And she's over the Martiniz or whatever y'all doing.

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Speaker 1: She tells you this story, I would respond in the

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Speaker 1: same way, which is why, Like when me and Carla

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Speaker 1: had the conversation, I'm very blunt, I'm very honest. I

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Speaker 1: have a friend, it's so funny, just found out she's

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: six months pregnant, and I felt a way like, damn, bitch,

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Speaker 1: I'm finding out six months. And the crazy part is

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Speaker 1: we was having like a group conversation, me and a

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Speaker 1: group of girls, and I ended up talking about not

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01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: only Cardi B and her decided to have the baby

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01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: by Stapanna, how motherfucker super she was. I talked about

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01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: another friend that I know that two other friends that

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Speaker 1: got pregnant knowing a guy within three months. She knew

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01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: this guy two months and was pregnant and is choosing

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Speaker 1: to keep this baby. So she's like, the way you

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01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: were talking about them other girls, I felt like I

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01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 1: couldn't share because I already knew what you was gonna say,

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01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 1: And so I was like, yep, still feel that way, damn.

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01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 1: But to me, I'm very honest with how I believe

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01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 1: people should be showing up in these I'm gonna call

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Speaker 1: it interpersonal relationships, because a lot of times they're romantic,

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01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: they're just sexual. They don't have the layers that are

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01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: really required for I think people to have before bringing

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01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: life into this world together. So they're just very they

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01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 1: don't know each other. And so I would say the same,

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Speaker 1: the same thing I just said to this bitch, I

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Speaker 1: would say to a friend, like, Bro, you dead as

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01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: wrong for not telling this nigga you aborted the baby,

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Speaker 1: and mind you why.

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Speaker 3: I was sixteen years old before that you were buried.

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Speaker 3: The only thing is I don't know that she not.

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Speaker 3: I didn't redood let her memorize it. Does she say

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Speaker 3: how long they've been together?

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Speaker 2: That's the thing I wonder if they're even really together.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: She said that he's considered a good catch. She wants

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01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: it with me, but I can't imagine spending the rest

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Speaker 1: of my life with him. There were things about him

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01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: I just didn't love like So I just don't even

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01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: know if they were really together, if they was just fucking.

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01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. All I know is she's

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01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: a grown ass adult. And maybe let me tell you

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01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: right now, at sixteen years old, when I got pregnant,

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01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: I had to man the fuck up and not only

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01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: let this nigga know that I was having a baby

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Speaker 1: because I was pregnant, but then I wasn't gonna.

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Speaker 2: Have the baby.

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Speaker 1: And to be fair, at sixteen years old, I was

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: guilt trip. Yes, that nigga swore up and down I

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: was killing his seed. He had a boy already. He

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01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: just knew I was giving him a girl. Mind you,

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01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: it's a dot and so at sixteen years old, yeah,

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01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: it was fucked up. I felt gas lit. I felt

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01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: like a terrible fucking human being. I did make a

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01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: decision that was not the same decision as the person

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01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: that I laid up with. I did get pregnant off

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01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: of the first time, fucking a nigga because my dumb

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: ass thought that no way I was gonna get pregnant

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: in the first year of me fucking I was dumb,

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: I was naive, But what I did was make a

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Speaker 1: grown ass, goddamn decision to lay with this man unprotected,

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01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: and when shit got fucking real, I had to have

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01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: that realize conversation with him.

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01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 2: So I think that for any grown ass woman.

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01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: Acting like they're just not emotionally capable to hold a

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01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 1: real goddamn ass adult conversation, you not adult or mature

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01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: enough to be fucking wrong, then simple.

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Speaker 3: As that, right. I mean, once again, your body, your choice.

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01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 3: If you can make such a strong decision on yourself

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01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 3: but still not have the confidence in yourself to have

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01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 3: a simple conversation, that just strikes me as an.

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 2: Imbalance period, motherfucking period. Barry gonna have to do this again, y'all.

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01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 2: Let me know what y'all think about Barry from nineteen

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01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 2: twelve joining us.

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01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 5: In a twenty twenty five have conversation, and everybody who

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01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 5: represents the Orlando School District, if you want somebody to

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01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 5: come forth and say.

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01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 3: She does not represent us in any way with her

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01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 3: new words, I completely understand. I try not to take

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01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 3: it in because it may accidentally become part of my repertoire.

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 3: I was like, no, Barry, that wasn't a word ignored,

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01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 3: just skip. But it's all good. It's a good conversation.

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01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: I see some of the risk and these type of conversations,

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01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,440
Speaker 3: but I see the need for some of these conversations

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01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 3: as well. Of going back to the mark the thing

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01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 3: is I mean, and actually going back to our podcast

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01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 3: we did with you in Ish, I said, I've always

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01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 3: said I can do a little ratchet, I can do

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01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 3: a little committy, I can do a little hip hop,

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01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 3: but I always think there has to be a little

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01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 3: room for a conversation that's going to broaden our minds

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01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 3: and help us as a community take the next step

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 3: or even have just a conversation that we've been uncomfortable

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01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 3: to have it. And I'm always.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be pro that absolutely well, Barry, thank you for

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01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: joining me on this Friday episode.

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01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: Y'all already know it's selective ignorance.

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01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: If you want to watch the full video and see

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01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: all of the action figures that probably cost hundreds of

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01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. Sitting right beside behind Barry you can

1442
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 1: join our Patreon support this podcast.

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01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 2: It is self funded. I ain't making no money, y'all.

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01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: This is all me right now.

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01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 3: We're not doing that.

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01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 2: We're not doing.

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01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 5: Boy.

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01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: See.

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01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: You can see him fighting with his middle finger if

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01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: you join us on Patreon, where you can watch the

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01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: full video. It's patreon dot com backslash Selective Ignorance Pod.

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01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: Y'all, Thank y'all so much for tuning in. Barry, thank

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01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 2: you for joining me.

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01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do this again when with stuff

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01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: get on the timeline that are like, hey, yo, I

1456
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: got things to say that ain't gonna make me lose

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01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: my job.

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01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 3: Facts, Carrie, you know I have opinions on everything, but

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01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 3: I these bills.

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01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 1: And guess what, whether the government shut down, whether the

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01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: world ends, you know what's not finna stop these bills.

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01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: These bills gonna keep on coming.

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01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: Anyways, y'all, y'all, make sure you check out next week's

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Speaker 1: episode again. New episodes dropped every Tuesday and every Friday.

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01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: Thank you again so much for tuning in.

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