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Speaker 1: What is the Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Duff Podcast. The boys are back in

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Speaker 1: New Jersey and we don't have that much to talk

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Speaker 1: about with the Mets. It's been a couple days, but

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Speaker 1: we have some big things we haven't talked to you about.

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Speaker 1: Sean and Iyah obviously being hurt, so we'll give our

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Speaker 1: opinions and thoughts on what's going on there. Well, Baby

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Speaker 1: magic going on. Mister March is totally back, so we

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Speaker 1: got to talk about him. We also have a media

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Speaker 1: marvel at the end of the episode. Anything else I'm

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Speaker 1: forgetting here, James.

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Speaker 2: No, those are definitely the big things. A couple other

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Speaker 2: teeny tiny small things that we'll get through. But like

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Speaker 2: the big keys, this episode, don't tell the people has

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Speaker 2: not much to talk about. We have plenty to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Spring trains rolling right now, Manayah Baby are the two

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Speaker 2: But before we do get started, just want to let

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Speaker 2: you guys know the Foul Territory will be at Mets

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, So anyone who's down at Port Saint Lucy,

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Speaker 2: welcome in the Mets community.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's catching some heat right now for his takes

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Speaker 1: of saying the Mets are third place team in the

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Speaker 1: National League East. We'll wait and see. Let the play

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Speaker 1: with talking about Sean and I again. Injury right oblique

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Speaker 1: strain right now. To me, Initially it didn't sound as

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Speaker 1: bad as it could have been. Whenever it's not the

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Speaker 1: But it is still concerning because he's going to miss

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Speaker 1: the start of the season. I think he's going to

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Speaker 1: going to be a pretty short term. I elston for him,

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Speaker 1: But this is the concern that we've had with the

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Speaker 1: Mets rotation always, even it was last year, was eventually

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Speaker 1: someone's gonna get hurt, and that's when you start to

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Speaker 1: see some cracks and what is considered to be already

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Speaker 1: a not strong rotation by most.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just like I know, while they're saying the injury

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Speaker 2: Anytime you have any player with a muscle injury in February,

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Speaker 2: it's that should be caused for concern. Like there's plenty

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Speaker 2: I don't know how else the phrase is bad, especially

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hoping the oblique thing is just him being

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not really your front leg. It's more

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Speaker 1: No, but I mean like in terms of like when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part when you twist like any I don't

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, for two months, you start releasing it here,

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Speaker 2: like Sean and Iya did, you're in shape, you're loose

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Speaker 2: from the whole season, like you're strong from the season,

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Speaker 2: the new thing again. Again, I'm not a medical doctor,

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Speaker 1: Got to get our boy on here to talk about

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Speaker 2: Right, But it does feel like you're probably just changing

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Speaker 2: the chance for random, stupid, weird injuries like this one.

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Speaker 2: To Sean and I, and like the way he talked

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Speaker 2: Which also makes me scared, like this was something you

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Speaker 2: I would not be optimistic. I'm just saying like I'm

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Speaker 2: Seoum Knight's first pitch of the season, I think the

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Speaker 1: Well, we saw Paul Blackburn pitch yesterday against the Marlins.

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Speaker 1: It was a very bizarre I mean, I shouldn't very bizarre.

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Speaker 2: multiple change ups, which again I think only probably two

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Speaker 1: hennessis Cabrera, not Genesis hennessis Cabrera. He's fighting for one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's Lefty with who's a It was

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Speaker 1: Did you see the other day there was an infield

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Speaker 1: away from it. Anthony Ghost runs to foul territory, camps

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Speaker 2: There's also a big thing of spring training because for

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Speaker 2: putting everything into these spring training appearances because it's the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple other things to note from this game,

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Speaker 1: I was about to say, you know, if Anthy Volpi

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Speaker 1: played third base for the New York Mets, I don't

435
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Speaker 1: think people would be saying the same things that they

436
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Speaker 1: are with him playing shorts up for the Yankees. He

437
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Speaker 1: can't hit for shit the two years that he's played. No.

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Speaker 2: And right there, we just went through all of the

439
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Speaker 2: first round picks that were hitters out of high school

440
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Speaker 2: in the draft into twenty nineteen draft besides Waight, there

441
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Speaker 2: was one more here. It was Vaco.

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Speaker 1: Oh. I think he's trying to become a picture now Kiva.

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Speaker 2: Prospect twins exactly Noway, But again like that, it's hard.

444
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Speaker 2: You gotta play a lot of baseball. Lot of those

445
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Speaker 2: high schoolers wind up being freaks. Baby didn't wind up

446
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Speaker 2: being a freak. Still winds up being a really, really

447
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Speaker 2: good baseball player. That's not something that And then when

448
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Speaker 2: you look at the way his Mets roster is coming

449
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Speaker 2: together right now with the magical injury, there is an

450
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Speaker 2: open spot for an infielder on this pitch. I know

451
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Speaker 2: that Tacomo and all the Mets beat riders are really

452
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Speaker 2: pounding the drum for I think was his name, Donnie

453
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Speaker 2: don Donovan Walton.

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Speaker 1: Ben Walton, Yeah, which is an interesting pounding of the

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Speaker 1: drum for all people.

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Speaker 2: Apparently he's kind of this. This spring training is like

457
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Speaker 2: Zach Short Joey Wendell, where they're like, you know, he

458
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Speaker 2: does everything right.

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Speaker 1: And he can play that's the worst, dude. I think

460
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Speaker 1: we honestly need to stop the heat and he can

461
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Speaker 1: play shortstop thing because I think at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, and I don't I think I mentioned this

463
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Speaker 1: last episode you did, Francisco Lindor's penciled in at shortstop

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Speaker 1: every single day. He's not coming out of a game early.

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Speaker 1: If he is, the Mets are up by fifteen runs

466
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Speaker 1: or they're down by fifteen runs. So put whoever the

467
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Speaker 1: fuck they want to play at shortstop. I don't care

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Speaker 1: when it's that big of a difference. I think there's

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Speaker 1: literally no reason to have to force a backup shortstop

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Speaker 1: on this roster. I would much rather have a guy

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Speaker 1: like Brett Baton who could play second and third and

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Speaker 1: maybe even corner outfield if we desperately need it.

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Speaker 2: I am down for the concept of the backup shorts

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Speaker 2: up on the roster because Francisco Indor was micd up

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Speaker 2: for one of the games last weekend, and I think

476
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Speaker 2: Ronnier carries and was like, how much was your back

477
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Speaker 2: really bothering at the last season he was like a lot.

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Speaker 2: So there might be some impotence by the Mets this

479
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Speaker 2: year to give him a couple more days off. But

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Speaker 2: if you're giving him days off, it can't be for

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Speaker 2: Dona no like there has. If you're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: true backup shortstop, it has to be someone's a little

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Speaker 2: bit more option and give a better option, give a

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Speaker 2: little bit more oom from the middle of the lineup

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Speaker 2: someone that. Yeah, that hopefully, but again I still think

486
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Speaker 2: that they seem like they're really really complacent. Let it

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Speaker 2: when you start the season in the minor leagues, which

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Speaker 2: I also again think is probably the right idea considering

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Speaker 2: all these things we're talking about Rep. Baty right now.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's all super fair, But just I

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Speaker 2: wonder if that last roster spot, if Baby is the

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Speaker 2: guy that could differentiate himself there, if he just tears

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Speaker 2: the cover off the ball this spring and he becomes

494
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Speaker 2: the primary lefty on the bench to start the year,

495
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Speaker 2: like there's there, there is probably a world where something

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Speaker 2: could open up for him like that.

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Speaker 1: No, definitely, and I mean listen, if he continues to

498
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Speaker 1: hit this well, maybe everybody's favorite radio host Brandon Tierney

499
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Speaker 1: could make his wish could come true and talk about

500
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Speaker 1: how the Mets would be trading Brett Batty for Marcus Stroman,

501
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Speaker 1: which was, I mean one of the top five dumbest

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Speaker 1: takes I think I've heard in the last calendar year.

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Speaker 1: That's that's stupid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so, this is this is not gonna

505
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Speaker 2: be our first official sanctioned media marvel of the year,

506
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Speaker 2: because we're waiting for the ncason to do that, but

507
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Speaker 2: this is definitely our first spring training media marvel and

508
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Speaker 2: just get for the people to see it. Brand Tierni

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Speaker 2: thinks a great idea for the mess to trade Brett

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Speaker 2: Baity for Marcus.

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Speaker 1: Strom and listen, I think it's a great idea for

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Speaker 1: the Yankees. I think they make that trade one hundred

513
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Speaker 1: out of one hundred times. You get rid of Marcus

514
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Speaker 1: Stroman's contract and you get a free young player. You

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Speaker 1: make that move every single day of the week. The

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Speaker 1: only trade that would ever happen where the Mets would

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Speaker 1: bring back Marcus Stromange, which I think is a zero

518
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Speaker 1: percent chance of happening, would be as if they somehow

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Speaker 1: can swap Starling Marte I think for Stroman because of

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Speaker 1: a catastrophic pinching injury and need to get endings right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is also the time in the sports calendar

522
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Speaker 2: there's nothing to talk about though. Now you kind off

523
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Speaker 2: you're a radio host, I tip the cap. You have

524
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Speaker 2: to make up fake trades that make no sense, that

525
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Speaker 2: would not benefit half the teams in the trade. So

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Speaker 2: shout out to Bran Tiern. He's best invents at that.

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Speaker 2: One more thing I do want to talk about. I

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Speaker 2: forgot to mention cool guy as he started to wrap

529
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Speaker 2: up here quickly is one of the short episodes we're

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Speaker 2: ever going to do. Ever, was the fact that Starling

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Speaker 2: Marte still just not appear in anything. At what point

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Speaker 2: do we think this is like a soft like a

533
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Speaker 2: soft exile.

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Speaker 1: I don't you want to know why? Because Mendoza has

535
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Speaker 1: been very open publicly about how he wants Starling Marte

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Speaker 1: on this team. I know he's not gonna say I

537
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Speaker 1: don't want him, that would be an insane thing to say,

538
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Speaker 1: but he's been very open publicly about wanting Starling Martin

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Speaker 1: in his value here and all the videos that we've seen,

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Speaker 1: the players at least loves having Starling Martiro, Like Wan

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Speaker 1: Soto's rubbing his head and putting suntan lotion on him.

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Speaker 1: Him and Jose Siri are buddies, which is so funny

543
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Speaker 1: because all we heard about was Wan Soto and Jose

544
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Speaker 1: Siri had problem with each other, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: these guys might be best friends. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you've seen the videos, but can't stay away from each other.

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Speaker 1: So could it be an exile? Maybe could it be

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Speaker 1: Starle Maartap being like, I don't know, guys, if I'm

549
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Speaker 1: just hitting, do I really need to even like play

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Speaker 1: in February? Like we know how bad my muscles are, Like,

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Speaker 1: let's let's take it easy. I think it might be

552
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Speaker 1: more of that. Have we seen Nimo play as well?

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Speaker 2: By the way, no, he does this, I feel like

554
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Speaker 2: every spring tree.

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Speaker 1: But that's so That's also what I'm kind of saying too,

556
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Speaker 1: is like two guys will bad muscles just don't play.

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Speaker 2: Also, did Starling Martey and Alexanierz do the picture where

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Speaker 2: they were literally crossing sorts with their best Yes, yeah,

559
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Speaker 2: okay that's the guys too long, But just the way

560
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Speaker 2: that Tim Healey worried this sweet, I'll read it for

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Speaker 2: you guys right now. Sure, no mohere than when Starling

562
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Speaker 2: Marte right in thee will get into Group FU league games.

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Speaker 2: Carlton Doza said he has some good days some not

564
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Speaker 2: so good days in his running progression. The Mets remain

565
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Speaker 2: confident this is the part that killed me. The Mets

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Speaker 2: remain confident he could physically be a major leaguer.

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Speaker 1: Still, the Mets remain confident that maybe he starts the

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Speaker 1: year on the al really think he.

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Speaker 2: Could be a major league still.

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Speaker 1: I think that ties it. Well.

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Speaker 2: This ties into the other thing we forgot to talk about,

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Speaker 2: which was the fact that Mets made kind of the

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Speaker 2: sneaky like DFA Waiver Whire moved earlier this week for

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Speaker 2: Alexandra Carnario. Alexander Canario came over to the Cubs. Originally

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Speaker 2: I want to say it was Chris Brian trade some

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Speaker 2: twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I thought might be right. I thought that feels like

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Speaker 1: that could or not. Ooh, I don't think it is.

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Speaker 1: Actually wait, let's see. No, I'm gonna look it up.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, you're right. It was Chris Broyan, So Caleb

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Speaker 1: Killy and Alexander Canario for Chris Bryant.

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Speaker 2: T you guys who got close to the major league

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Speaker 2: exactly funny for one year Chris Bryant. But Canario is

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Speaker 2: a crazy powerful outfielder with tons of swinging miss like

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Speaker 2: that's just the game. He's taking warhacks, he's putting a

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Speaker 2: back in the ball. If he can just gonna go

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Speaker 2: a long way. If now he's gonna strike out like

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Speaker 2: he does usually about there at the time, and I

589
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Speaker 2: think a lot of people felt weird about this move.

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Speaker 2: They're like, the Mets have seven outfielders, Canario has no options.

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Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure when a player gets DFAED, every

592
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Speaker 2: team gets a chance to put in an offer, and

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Speaker 2: I believe it goes in order of the way last

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Speaker 2: season ended. Correct. Yeah, at least I know that happens

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Speaker 2: in season. So if that is true, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: that's true. If he got all the way down to

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Speaker 2: the Mets, that means most of the team's passed on him.

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Speaker 2: So people are like, why would the Mets be the

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Speaker 2: team to win form? They have too many otfields. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna give up Casher in the dfame if that many

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Speaker 2: teams passed him the first time, so christ chance that

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Speaker 2: many teams will pass on him the second time. If

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Speaker 2: he were to DFA and brandis spring training ends, and

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Speaker 2: then if you can see him to triple A, that's

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Speaker 2: a huge win to get a guy with Alexander Canario

606
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Speaker 2: triple A. He gets to be down there for this year,

607
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Speaker 2: but also for situation like Starling Marte where there's a

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Speaker 2: non zero chance he starts the year in the IL.

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Speaker 2: His great insurance get give this guy Canario a couple

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Speaker 2: of bass beginning of the year. Allow Nick Plumber from

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Speaker 2: a few years ago. I never no, you might get

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Speaker 2: one miracle home run. You never know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's just a good It's just a

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Speaker 2: good fringy move for David Starts, who loves good FRINGI moves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, alc Canario, he had a couple I think like

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Speaker 1: twenty what was the year they popped off, twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: he had thirty seven home runs in the minors. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that was his big like whoa, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: Like he was always a fringy prospect. That happened to

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Speaker 1: put him on the map, and he just never really

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Speaker 1: got the chance. The Cubs have weirdly had a very

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Speaker 1: crowded outfield for like the last three years, despite having

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Speaker 1: like almost no all star players in that outfield, which

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Speaker 1: is kind of funny, but they just have a ton

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Speaker 1: of guys that exist and played that position. So he'd

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Speaker 1: been boxed out and I like it. I really like that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really good, like getting in on

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Speaker 1: the margins type move that the Mets are making that

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Speaker 1: doesn't hurt them ever, he also, I know he's not

630
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Speaker 1: exactly a good fielder, but last year his most played

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Speaker 1: position for.

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Speaker 2: The Cups and TRIPLEA was center fields.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and at least there was like, let's see

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Speaker 1: if you could just do this for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And in his small samples that he had at the

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Speaker 1: major leagues, and I say small, he's had forty two

637
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Speaker 1: played appearances, he wasn't chasing at the major league level.

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Speaker 1: He was striking out, but he wasn't chasing. And when

639
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Speaker 1: he did hit the ball, he hit it very hard.

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Speaker 1: So those are all really encouraging things.

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Speaker 2: And I know this is your new big thing you're

642
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Speaker 2: into this offseason. Yeah, something that you can pick up

643
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Speaker 2: very quickly is bat speed and Alexander Canario had some

644
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Speaker 2: of the best batspeed in the majors when the few

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Speaker 2: at bats he had.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like you can't teach that. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Jose ozo Car is playing well. He could be the

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Speaker 1: Jose Azocar role if they really want him to. Like, no, again,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna lose sleep if you dfa Jose Jose

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Speaker 1: Azocar over Canario. Who Canario could still have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of ceiling. We know what Ozo car Is.

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Speaker 2: It's also so fine to me that when these guys

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Speaker 2: are listed on all the MLB sanctioned sites reference in

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Speaker 2: Savant before they become sanctioned Major League. Yes, they they

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Speaker 2: have their They're like when they were signed Heighten wait

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Speaker 2: listings and Alexander Canarios listed five to eleven, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty five pounds.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what he's on on Baseball Reference? What

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Speaker 1: five eleven, two twelve.

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Speaker 2: He's had okay, sixty fifty pounds. That is perfect. But

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Speaker 2: I think Brian risos Let's sat like one forty five

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Speaker 2: on there, which is funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think he's one forty five. I think

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Speaker 1: my favorite one was Oswaldo Cabrera. I think was one

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Speaker 1: twenty five, which is just like a little boy. We

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Speaker 1: can't be serious here, but I think that's pretty much

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Speaker 1: all we have to talk about in terms of Mets baseball.

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and take a look at the reviews

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Speaker 1: here and read out a couple, because we did tell

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Speaker 1: you guys that we were going to read some out.

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Speaker 1: And I'll read out one of the longer ones too,

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Speaker 1: because I kind of blueball you guys a little bit

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Speaker 1: on the last one. If that was your review, so

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Speaker 1: let's see. Oh we got one. Jacob user name is taken,

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Speaker 1: all right, he says, I'm a r Wow, this is

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Speaker 1: very long. I'll read it whatever.

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Speaker 2: Why not.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Rangers fan from Texas. But the perspective that

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Speaker 1: Mets up brings has made the Mets my second favorite

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Speaker 1: team to watch and root for. It helps out my

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Speaker 1: NFL fandom means lifelong and midy. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that word is. With the city of Philadelphia and a

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Speaker 1: general distaste for Washington d DC sports teams, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: that one hurts. Mark and James strike the perfect balance

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Speaker 1: of being excited fans while also viewing the game through

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Speaker 1: the modern lens of efficiency and analytical evaluation. Nobody else

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Speaker 1: in baseball media pulls it off without being inconsistent or

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Speaker 1: blindly carrying water for the team. Like the title of

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Speaker 1: this review, every fan fan base wishes they had a

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Speaker 1: pod like this. I'd listen to James talkball for hours

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Speaker 1: and hours Draftnick Mark, eighty five million YouTube views means

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Speaker 1: a ton, Thank you very much. People already do listen

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Speaker 1: to him and talk ball for hours. Here's a question

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Speaker 1: for us. This is actually good. We can answer this,

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Speaker 1: what's your favorite market inefficiency in baseball? It can be

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Speaker 1: historical the value on base percentage present day, such as

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Speaker 1: pitch de k Yeah, I guess what what is your

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Speaker 1: favorite inefficiency? You got one, James, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think I think something is hard to track. I

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Speaker 2: know that my friends at Pitcherless are doing a really

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Speaker 2: good job right now trying to quantify it. But pitchers

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Speaker 2: command pictures that have command is something that's not It's

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Speaker 2: not easy to track, like year of the year, sometimes

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Speaker 2: even start to start. But if a picture's on basically

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Speaker 2: no matter how bad the stuff is, like they'll be

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Speaker 2: able to dice you up like any single way.

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Speaker 1: What It's funny that you said, because I'd been really

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Speaker 1: diving into command plus recently, because I've been looking at

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff plus. But I look at command

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Speaker 1: plus and you can find a lot more production players

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Speaker 1: that are producing quality at the exact time based on

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Speaker 1: command plus. Where we know stuff plus is like future

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Speaker 1: value could be type thing.

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Speaker 2: The stuff plus is kind of like the pop and

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Speaker 2: like how good someone can be. But I was listening

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Speaker 2: to I think was a Pitching Ninja podcast clip of

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Speaker 2: Luke Weaver talking about Zach Grank and he was talking

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Speaker 2: about Granky facing Eric Lower, and I think we all

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Speaker 2: remember watching Eric Lauer and the Padres and Bruis over

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Speaker 2: the years as someone who was incredibly unspectacular to the eye.

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Speaker 2: But Luke Weaver was like Lower, you know, he had

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Speaker 2: this gray fastball. He was so good at putting it

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Speaker 2: in the right of these hands, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I guess that, like again, like that that deeper understanding

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Speaker 2: it is a great fastball. You could just put that

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Speaker 2: fastball there every single time. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the clip, Granky knew that pitch was coming because he

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Speaker 2: knew everything about everybody, and he stepped like two inches

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Speaker 2: back in the box or like out out away from

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Speaker 2: the plate, and he just yanked a fastball over the

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Speaker 2: fence for a home run. And that was like, that

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Speaker 2: was the big thing that Luke Weavers talking about, how

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Speaker 2: good of a how much of a savant Ganky was.

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Speaker 2: But do you think that pictures would command the pictures

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Speaker 2: that can just spot the ball. That's probably one of

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Speaker 2: the greatest inefficients. Inefficiencies we had. One of the reasons

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Speaker 2: is it's hard to know if they're gonna be able

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Speaker 2: to spot it every single time.

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Speaker 1: Correct Yeah, that's the big thing is it's when you

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Speaker 1: throw ninety nine. You throw ninety nine every time when

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Speaker 1: you have command. You can still miss a spot and

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Speaker 1: give up a tank.

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Speaker 2: And if you throw niney nine you missed a spot,

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Speaker 2: good chance they're still missing it. To like, that's one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite fallacies. People like, it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 2: you throw a hundred, kids can still hit it. Not

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Speaker 2: always now there one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Their offensive numbers are way worse against one hundred miles

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Speaker 1: per hour than they are against ninety seven miles from now,

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Speaker 1: it's a fact.

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Speaker 2: We got one more here from t Hearn's seven point eight.

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Speaker 2: You guys provide the best day of analysis. Great, great

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Speaker 2: job breaking down clay homes. So mah nice. So we're

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Speaker 2: gonna this is kind of the fun of spring training,

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Speaker 2: the joy of creators like us, where there's so many

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Speaker 2: little tiny things that happened that actually could wind up

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Speaker 2: being valuable, a lot of things that won't be valuable,

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Speaker 2: but a little tiny things. We're gonna get microscope and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have really good time this next month and

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Speaker 2: get you guys ready for the season with us.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so make sure you are subscribed to that's the

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Speaker 1: podcast channel over on YouTube if you want to see

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Speaker 1: the video version of this. If you're listening to us

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google drops a rating, drops a review,

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Speaker 1: download and subscribe. You can follow James on Twitter app.

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Speaker 2: James Underscore Giano and one more thing. Guys, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit more maybe in the coming weeks, maybe

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Speaker 2: do a big social media posts about possibly searching for

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Speaker 2: an intern or two as the season gets rolling. So

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Speaker 2: before we do that, if any you guys are listening

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Speaker 2: big time fans here, listeners that are consistent, hit us

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Speaker 2: up first, tell us things. If you guys have done

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Speaker 2: if you guys have ever made TikTok's assistantly, if you

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Speaker 2: guys are active on Twitter. We have our eyes on

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Speaker 2: a few people in the community right now. We know

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Speaker 2: we've been watching a couple of you guys. But if

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Speaker 2: anybody wants to jump before we pose this to the

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Speaker 2: public and you're still listening at the end of the episode,

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Speaker 2: that definitely you're definitely someone that we want. Hit us up.

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Speaker 1: You think you have value to us. It could be

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Speaker 1: something that we're not even thinking of. Just come and

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Speaker 1: tell us what you think your value could be for us.

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Speaker 2: We're very open minded. Right now, we're just ready. We

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Speaker 2: would like to add.

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Speaker 1: The team before the season starts, definitely, so make sure

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Speaker 1: you hit us up. I have my DMS open as well,

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Speaker 1: so I won't be Hollywood this time when it comes

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Speaker 1: to intern search there. We appreciate you guys. James, where

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Speaker 1: can they follow you on Twitter? In case they want

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Speaker 1: to DM.

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Speaker 2: You follow me at james Ons. Of course, Ciano much

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Speaker 2: more likely to get a response for me than.

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Speaker 1: Mark, definitely, but I might respond at draft Deck Mark

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Speaker 1: with the CEA. Guys, thank you so much for listening

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Speaker 1: and watching this episode. We will catch you all on

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Speaker 1: the next one. Peace Out, peace out, guys. Let's come Mets.

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