1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast spends a lot of time 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: on corner. Welcome to another edition of the Around the 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, presented by the United States Marine Corps. My 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: name is Dan hansis coming to you from a room 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: filled with heroes. Chris Westling to my left, Greg Rosenthal 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: to my right. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? What 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: a day? What today? No Mark Sessler because as we 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: told you last week, he was in Oakland covering the 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: last Raiders game didn't end how the people wanted. At 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: the end up there were ruined and thrown on the field. 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: The question will be is Mark ruined? Is he still 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: with the teaser? We'll see if he actually makes it 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: to this segment at the end of the show. A 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: little later in the show, we will check in with 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: great Mark Sessler and hopefully his cell phone is activated 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: and everything is good. He was going to encounter ruination. 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: I think it would have happened a while ago. That's fair, 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: all right, We got a great sunday of NFL football 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: in our league Week fifteen, the playoff. What well, It's 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: like like a lot of things, once you start using 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: something ironically, at a certain point, no one's got to 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: even understand that it's ironic that you don't really like that. 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: Maybe you like the whole. I'm willing to run that risk. Okay, Okay, 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Now I think I think I speak for all of us. Um, Greg, 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, you like to try to dip your toe 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: in the uh greater part of NFL media culture. But 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: always kind of viewed myself as a bit of an outsider. 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: West I think you feel the same way. Um. So 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: to say our league, you know, feels good. It's like, 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: oh wow, maybe some progress is being made. You know. 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm maybe they'll accept me, maybe they'll accept us. Doubtful. 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: That's aspirational. Um, all right, No, I don't care. I 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: like to be on the outside up high West. Yeah. 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: Read a book called Colin Wilson The Outsider. Now that'll 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: get you going about outside. Okay, another book recommendation from 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: the great Chris Westling. We're gonna go through all of 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: the Sunday games, uh, capping it with a little Bills 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: Steelers talk from hines Field, and after that, will you know, 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: give you a full picture of what's going on as 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: we hit the home stretches. When it's really great to 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: have Greg Rosenthall man that his awareness when it comes 42 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: to the playoff picture. The man is a human calculator. 43 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: He'll tell you where everything stands at the end of 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: Sunday's games, So make sure you stick around for that. 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: But we have a lot to us. Was tabulations on 46 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: tabulations for Macca nations. That's Greg's mind. When the yeah, 47 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: when do you figure playoffs? Think about Greg, I mean 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: the flexing between the I always know when to call 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: time out. It doesn't matter, like if I'm sitting at 50 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: home on a couch or in a newsroom and the 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: other guys on a field with eighty thou screaming fans 52 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: with like seven hundred different decisions to make, he can't 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: do it. I can do it. Greg can say, Andy, 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: eat on his knee and tell him how to run 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: the end of game situations. So you can do that. 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: You're great and uh the down and distance and time 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: out situations, and and you're great with figuring out playoff calculations. 58 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: So that's that when I talk about strengths right there, Greg, 59 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: that's near the top for you. You You know what else, 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: a game analysis? How about we get to that also, 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: your ability to navigate into like the internal workings the 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: NFL media machine to be like a respected guy like 63 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: you like to live inside and outside the box. You're 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of a bad boy, but you're also 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: right there and there, one ft in, one foot out. 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: If you can pull it off, why not? Well, I 67 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: even talk about week fifteen. Let's talk about week fifteen, 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: and we'll start with a game with big playoff ramifications 69 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: of the Texans and tightens with a lot on the 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: line in the a f C South, Watson of the gun, 71 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Watson hands off to Hide, wading to the left. Carlos 72 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: has the five Carlos to the Pilon. He's in touchdown, 73 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: Stay ten yard, get run, Guapo lead, Mark Vandermere el Guappo. 74 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: That's Carlos Hide Handsome. I guess he is. Texans Radio Network. 75 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: Carlos Hyde ran for a hundred and four yards, scored 76 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: a t d with less than eleven minutes to play, 77 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: Texans score tentstrate points in the fourth quarter, pulled out 78 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: to beat the Titans one in Nashville, a huge win 79 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: for the Texans, who put themselves in the driver's seat 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: in the a f C North a C South with 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: two games to play, and that includes, of course a 82 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: game against the Titans. Now West. This is why Houston 83 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: is so tough to figure out. On a good day, 84 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: they could beat anybody. Today was a good day. They 85 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: are tough to figure out, and I'm not sure anyone's 86 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna have them figured out after this game. What we 87 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: do know is that DeAndre Hopkins and Deshaun Watson are 88 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: absolute stars. And they took control of the game in 89 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, a game which I think the Titans 90 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: offense generally looked more impressive than the Texans offense, a 91 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: game when the Titan had about sixty five more total 92 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: yards than the Texans, but a game, and I put 93 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: stars next to this play when it happened, because it's 94 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: a four team points swing in the game. Anthony Firkser 95 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: loses the ball at the goal line, it's rolled an interception, 96 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: was closer to a fumble. Whitney Merciless brings it all 97 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: the way back down to the red zone and they 98 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: score on it Kenny Still's touchdown. So that was a 99 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: four team points swing in the game, and that the 100 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: Titans did recover to tie it up and then could 101 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: not stop DeAndre Hopkins. Because the Titans have two really 102 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: big weak spots right now. Their cornerbacks which are not healthy. 103 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: A Dory Jackson and Malcolm Butler are out and have 104 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: been out for a couple of weeks. And their kicking game, 105 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: which really surfaced early when Ryan sucked up, Ryan suck 106 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 1: up missed, had a block field goal, and then before 107 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: halftime Vrabel opted against a long field goal and tried 108 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: for a fake punt instead that was batted down and 109 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: that really came back to Hunt and they lost for 110 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: they lost by three points the margin of that field goal. 111 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: That this was such a big loss for the Titans 112 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: because the Texans all they have to do is win 113 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: a game next week on NFL Network on the Saturday 114 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: triple header. That would that would clinch spot for the text, right, 115 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm going back in, Hey, hey, Peter Schegar on the 116 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: grab drinks. I'll do that. I do remember Peter Scheger 117 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: as a young guy coming up one and I wanted 118 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: to get drinks while I was at Rotor back in 119 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: New York a little Fox Sports. No, they they could 120 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: just clinch a playoffs spot, not necessarily the division next Saturday. Uh, 121 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: they would need a Titans loss, you know, to to 122 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: clinch the division in Week sixteen. But the fact is 123 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: the Titans can get in, uh if the Titans aren't 124 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: gonna get in even if they win these last two 125 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: games necessarily and the fact that Tennessee had that spot. 126 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: And sometimes the division comes down to this, like you 127 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: don't like to think of it, but that play where 128 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: they're on the goal line and Ryan Tannehill throws a 129 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: good pass that ends up getting you know, dropped and 130 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: brought back that sometimes it can swing an entire division, 131 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: and you can swing an entire season one play. And 132 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: I think Vrabel he knew that after the game. He 133 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: was he was bitter, he was really cheesed off heading 134 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: to hit it, heading to the tunnel, and it was 135 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: almost like he could he he could read his mind. 136 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: We're never getting that one back, and we needed Derrick 137 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: Henry Um. He had been on an incredible role statistically 138 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: not bad at all for eighties six. Did the hamstring 139 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: injury or the quad injury, the leg injuries dealing with uh, 140 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: did that seem to hold him back at all? I 141 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: didn't think so. It just seemed more like gameflow and 142 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: the Texans did a pretty good job of not allowing 143 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: those big carries. Now there was an impressive goal line 144 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: stand by the Texans that the Titans ultimately scored on, 145 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: but they stuffed Henry twice within the final two yards 146 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: before the goal line, and then they stuffed the fullback 147 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: blasting game on a really nice play by Zach Cunningham 148 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: and then Tannell tanne Hill bootlegged. But that's why Henry 149 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: didn't get in the end zone. And I think I 150 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: would credit the Texans defense for not allowing the big 151 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: plays that you've been seeing from him, where he's just 152 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: going for seventy yards. The Texans are just a different 153 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: team when Fuller's on the field. I know he didn't 154 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: blow up, he's five for sixty one, but the whole 155 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: offense just makes a little more sense. Before we leave 156 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: this game, I do think we have to mention A. J. 157 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Brown is just a superstar, and I wish I had 158 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: made this point before he went eight for one fourteen 159 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: and one and that's three yard games for him in 160 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: the last month. He is just like he's the receiver 161 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: I want from the two thousand nineteen class, no matter 162 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: what I want, Terry McLaurin by far and then A J. 163 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Brown number. A J. Brown is just such a physical 164 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: beast that he's just he's I don't know if he's 165 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: a future number one, he's a number one right now. 166 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: Like he can dominate games right now, and it makes 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: them more dynamic, and it does make me think at 168 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: least they have a chance. I know they got to 169 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: play the Saints and then go to Houston, but I 170 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: do think they have a chance to win both those games, 171 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: which is what they'll need. He's awesome after the catch. 172 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: He's also being helped out quite a bit by the 173 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: Titans essentially being the best play action team in football 174 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: over the last what five six weeks. They're custom made 175 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: for play action with Derrick Henry playing well in Tannehill. 176 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Let's face it, having a big arm West. You could 177 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: start a team right now with any wide receiver in 178 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: the league. Is a twenty seven year old DeAndre Hopkins, 179 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: uh pro. I don't know him or Michael Thomas alright, 180 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: one of those two. I think Hopkins is probably the 181 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: better player in a vacuum. All right. He was a 182 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: great player on Sunday. Younger though, So you got a 183 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: factor that Let's move to a game with some big 184 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: playoff ramifications in the NFC. Prescott in the gun fake 185 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Now he's gonna be rushed by Fowler steps back from 186 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: that for as deep down the filth right upen at 187 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: the thirty five. It's Tavon Austin. He's gonna dance U. 188 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: That's the easiest fifty nine yard touchdown Prescott's ever throwed 189 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: or Austin's ever caught. And he's doing a little hole 190 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: down day into the end zone. Fifty nine yards Prescott 191 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: to Austin for the touchdown. Brad Sham the sham God. 192 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: Haven't heard from him in a while. K r l 193 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: D Yep, the good Cowboys are back. I didn't think 194 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: you see him again, did you, Dak Prescott throw two 195 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Zeke Elliott went over a hundred yards with 196 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: a couple of scores. Cowboys just pound on the ramps. 197 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Twenty one was the final at Gerald World. Greg The 198 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys seemed more likely to roll over and die after 199 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: the last few weeks of disappointment. Instead, they looked galvanized, 200 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: crippling the defending NFC Champs playoff hopes in the process. Yeah, 201 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: this is one of the most surprising results for me 202 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: of the season. It shouldn't be. I should think that 203 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: that what you've seen over the course and of an 204 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: entire season should weigh more than what you've seen the 205 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. But I just didn't think the 206 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys had it in them, especially their defense. But it 207 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: was like old timer's night. It was like everyone had 208 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: it all a great time. Here's Jason Witten catching a long, 209 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: great touch down with this you know one hand. It's 210 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: Sean Lee getting sacks and a game turn an interception. 211 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: It was just like everyone's happy, especially Dream so what 212 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: he's always wanted, his old guys that he's been too 213 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: loyal to, just continuing to do damage. What a schizophrenic 214 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: team they this team, they have a plus ninety point 215 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: differential for the season. Almost all of their losses have 216 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: been close, and almost all their wins have been blowouts, 217 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: right until last Thursday night, when to me, they just 218 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: got you know, steamrolled by the Bears, and really the 219 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: last two weeks against the Bills. In both those games 220 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: they had some opportunities. But last week was so dispiriting. 221 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: I took that, uh too seriously clearly. But the way 222 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: that they won not so much on offense, where it 223 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: was all the running game. I mean, Dak had what 224 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty yards other than that one. Uh 225 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: you broken play the defense to Marcus Lawrence and Shawn 226 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: Lee and Carrie Hyder had a big game and the 227 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: secondary they just dominated Los Angeles up front, Todd Gurley's 228 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: first six runs went for one yard. He ends up 229 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: with twenty yards on the game. Jared Goff gets hurt 230 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: hitting his thumb on a helmet, but at that point 231 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: the game was basically over and it affected golf the 232 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: rest of the way for sure, But that I think 233 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: it was twenty three by the time he suffered that injury, 234 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: So that game was a shot too. Like you see 235 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: that it happens every week. It feels like with a 236 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: quarterback hitting a face mask. But this that was a 237 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: whap on the helm. I've seen Andy Dalton season get 238 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: wrecked easier. Oh, he wasn't shooting straight the rest of 239 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: the way, and they kept him in, you know, deep 240 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: into garbage time and they got some numbers then. But 241 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: it does make you wonder if he'll be playing because 242 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: the Rams at eight and six are still mathematically alive, 243 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: but it's basically over that they need to win out 244 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: and the Vikings need to lose out. Yep, does either 245 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: seem likely? I don't know. I mean there's only no 246 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: games left, but it's probably the end of the road 247 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: for the Rams, and and in a disappointing way for 248 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: it to go out, because West, this was a team 249 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: that we're talking about it all last week. They seemed 250 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: to be peeking and figuring it out. So that's what 251 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: made it so disappointed, because they never felt like they 252 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: were in this game. It was just the Cowboys punched 253 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: them in the in the mouth to start the game, 254 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: and before you knew it, it was a blowout. By 255 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: the halftime, the other Rams were surging into this game, 256 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: and I really talked about how well their defense is playing, 257 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: and here they allow forty four points. I think Greg 258 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: let yourself off the hook for not getting the Cowboys 259 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: analysis correct. This team is resistant to analysis all year, 260 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: and especially after laying down last week. How could you 261 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: predict this game? The Rams are the team that's not 262 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: your fault, Greg, the Rams of the team where you 263 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: think they're turning. How can you predict either of these teams? Really? 264 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: With how the Rams have been playing the last few 265 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: weeks and how their defense has been playing for half 266 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: the season, now you can't. But I think they're an 267 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: example of sometimes their defense looked better against bad competition, 268 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: and um, you know, the encouraging thing for the Cowboys 269 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: is that their offense is still capable of a game 270 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: like this, because it really was they mine. It wasn't 271 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: the passing game, it was the line opening up holes 272 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: for Zeke who had one seventeen and two their first 273 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: two of their first three touchdown drives is fifteen plays 274 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: for ninety yards, uh, and then fourteen plays for nine seven. 275 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: So that's I think it's a tough way to run 276 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: an offense, but it's the way they always look the best. 277 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: Which of these short third and two is that Zeke's 278 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: picking up Tony Pollard who got a lot of it 279 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: in garbage time but still goes twelve for one thirty one. 280 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean that they would love it if Dak Prescott 281 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have to throw that much. I would love Uh. 282 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: You know, Tavon Austin came into the league I believe 283 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: as an eighth overall pick and it never happened for him. 284 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Great stat line today. You heard the touchdown called the 285 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: beginning of this conversation. He finishes one for fifty nine 286 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: for one touchdown on one target. Well, you know what 287 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: he made it count and that was a big touch 288 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: on because that's when it felt like the game was, 289 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, slipping away at that point. Up from the Rams. 290 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: There was controversy at the beginning of the game, which 291 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: we should just hit real quick, that Dak Prescott the 292 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: was win the toss and the referee Walt Coleman, I 293 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: believe Walt Anderson, it was a Walt Walter White. I 294 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: think it was Walt Uh Walt Disney. Uh. He ruled 295 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: that that that Doc had made a selection he had 296 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: chosen to kick rather than shows to defer. But then 297 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: good job by Fox. They find more audio that clearly 298 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: shows that Walt uh missed it and uh they conferred 299 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: and common sense carried the day in New York allowed 300 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to you know, get the ball to start 301 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: the second half, which thank god, because initially Mike Preyer 302 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: came on the air and said that this was not 303 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: something that was reviewable, but apparently it was. Kudos to 304 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: the NFL, and I don't know why, but I'm always 305 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised when common sense carries the day. And finally, 306 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: on this game, Kai for Bath makes his Cowboys debut 307 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: and this sound started almost immediately you know. Well, yeah, 308 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: immediately right after the coin flip drama where the Cowboys 309 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: look terrible, Gregg and West are going off on Jason 310 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: Garrett in the newsroom, which is just like the most 311 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: NFL Twitter things. It's just like with this happened on 312 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: another team. This this not so it's it's never the 313 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: player's fault, it's always Garrett. But seven and seven that's Garrett's, 314 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, that's the Garrett cut type of records. This 315 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: is what happened next for the Cowboys. Ricky opening kick off, 316 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: four bad takes over his first week. Is a Dallas Cowboy, 317 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: at least on the active roster, and right out of 318 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: the game he can't move the ball to the forty 319 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: that's where the rams will set up. And he could 320 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: not have started any worse. It can only get better 321 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: from hair. Wait, what did he do the rest of 322 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: the game. I'll tell you what he did the rest 323 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: of the game three for three field goals, including a 324 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: fifty yard bomb that would have been good for eighty 325 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: and he hit all five extra points, so he was 326 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: perfect after that inauspicious start. Oh yeah, Kai has it 327 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: figured out? Guys? The guy? Hey what what high boys 328 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: are flying? With a monument overcoming adversity. Let us move 329 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: on slender center, Wentz firing and it is It isn't 330 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown. It is quod on the four quarter of 331 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: the zone. It is a clutch down on my ar 332 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: surrounding if the past goes deep into the en zone 333 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: to Craig Ward. Great pass point once and a great 334 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: clutch pot Ward, Great Ward, where have you been all online? 335 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: Merrill Reese squad. That's been great, great call by Reese, 336 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: Eagles Radio Network. Carson Wentz led the Eagles on a 337 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: seventy five yard touchdown drive in the final minutes, capped 338 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: by his third touchdown pass to Yes Greg Ward Jr. 339 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: The Eagles keep their NFC East title hopes alive thirty 340 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: seven win over the Redskins of FedEx Field Gregg. This 341 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: turned out to be one of the best games of 342 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: the day, go figure six scoring plays in the fourth quarter, 343 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: nine lead changes, and one of the all time bad 344 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: beats as time expired. Oh that's right. If you were 345 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: if you were on the Washington team, that would have 346 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: been bad beat, painful. But you if you weren't, you 347 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: just enjoyed a classic Carson Wentz performance in the second half. 348 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: It was one of those games from Wentz where it's 349 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: like kind of like, whatever your biases are coming into 350 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: the game with Wentz, you'll see what you want, because 351 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: he missed a lot of throws that were there, I 352 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: would say, in the second and third quarters of this game, 353 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: especially really the first half. In the second half, he 354 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: goes eighteen for twenty one for a hundred and forty 355 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: one yards in three touchdowns, including one of the best 356 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: touchdown passes I've seen all season. You guys, you guys 357 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: have probably seen that in the fourth quarter to take 358 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: one of his leads. I mean they had to bring 359 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: him back three separate times. In the second half. He 360 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: had the game winner to Greg Ward, which was a 361 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: fantastic play, and then he had a couple of other 362 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 1: third and fives. There was one to Ward and one 363 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: to Boston Scott where Carson Wentz just did his Carson 364 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: Wentz magic. And I think this is what Eagles fans 365 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: and what's been mostly a lost season, have wanted to 366 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: see out of their starting quarterback. Just I don't care 367 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: if their whole offense is just Ward, Urn Scotter and 368 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders in terms of that's who he's gonna throw 369 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: to like. He made it work, and he did it 370 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: on a day where his defense stunk. Maybe he's a 371 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: little scatter shot, maybe there's inconsistency. But the reason why 372 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: Wentz is such a fun quarterback to me is like 373 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: he is one of those guys you could feel it. 374 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: He's a guy like put up, you know, get on 375 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: my back. I will take you there. I'll get it done. 376 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: And he's done it back to back weeks. Is not 377 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: a good Eagles team, it's you know, the middle of 378 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: the road team. But the fact that he's kept him 379 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: relevant here, I think it's it's all on Wentz and 380 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: that the throw one of the ones you're referring to. Uh, 381 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: the Miles Sanders dart in the back corner of the 382 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: growing it through arms of Redskins defenders a clothes line through. 383 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how many other guys in the league 384 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: can make that pass. I it was impressed by the 385 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: running back combo of Miles Sanders in Boston, Scott, this 386 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: is not a game where you can say Wenz didn't 387 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: have any help. Dallas Goddard made a great one handed 388 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: catch on a pass thrown behind him, did his normal thing. 389 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: Greg Ward had four for forty in that last drive. 390 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: But most importantly, Miles Sanders had the best game of 391 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: his career, a hundred and seventy two yards from scrimmage, 392 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: including nineteen carries for one two and Boston Scott kind 393 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: of backed up his performance from the other night. I 394 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: know that doesn't look too fancy, was fifty five yards 395 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: from scrimmage, but it was a number of key third 396 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: down conversions and it was all because the Eagles defense 397 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: couldn't get a stop, which was the most surprising thing 398 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: of the entire game. The Eagles defense had a Gholston, 399 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: no QB hits, no sacks. Haskins had the best game 400 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: of his career, and he's been a sack machine, and 401 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: it was largely because he had time to throw and uh, 402 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: for the most party made good throws. If if if 403 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: sim Steven Simms caught, Yeah, slightly underthrown ball, but very 404 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: catchable in the fourth quarter, the Eagles would have been 405 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: down to touchdown there when they when they were going 406 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: for the game winning drive. So let's check in on 407 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: the state of the Eagles for the last month. You 408 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: and everyone else has said everything is so hard for 409 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: this offense. It's just so hard and even was in 410 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: the first half of this game. Even in the first 411 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: half you were saying the same thing. It was the 412 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: second half impressive enough to where you think of them 413 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: differently going into next week because it's the Cowboys, like 414 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: they have something to hang their hat on now a 415 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, they really have five guys. It's Ward 416 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: or Scott, Art Sanders and Scott and that was it. 417 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: I mean Arthega Whiteside. Uh, he's on the field, but 418 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: he might as well not be there to targets no catch. 419 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: This was my point last week. Ward and Boston Scott 420 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: have been in this team's possession all year. As they 421 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: played guys who can't catch and can't make big plays. 422 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: They just went to waste all year. I I don't 423 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: feel overly confident because they've done this against two pretty 424 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: poor defenses, but I think they have to feel like 425 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: you have something on offense. But it's what we've been 426 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: talking about with them all year. Once they fix one problem, 427 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: another one pops up. The defense hasn't been good really, 428 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: certainly not today, and they're they're much healthier. Anybody that 429 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: with great confidence makes a prediction about the Week sixteen 430 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: game Cowboys actually, I don't believe anything that's coming out 431 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: of their mouths. They are overconfident. Just use that as 432 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: an indicator whether they know what they're talking about, because 433 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: we've seen enough from both of these teams that it's 434 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: unpredictable what you're gonna get Sunday to say it is. 435 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: And yet I think it's it's okay to say that 436 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys should be the favorite. I don't care that 437 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: they're on the road that they if they're playing the 438 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: better team. Here's the thing, I'm not necessarily picking. I 439 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: probably will pick them and I and it wouldn't surprise 440 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: me if the Eagles win. I'm not saying that I 441 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: don't wouldn't feel confident. But their best game is just 442 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: clearly better. Because the Eagles have no best game. These 443 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: are their best games. Is winning these dog fights against 444 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: dog teams? All right? Let us move on. Dog team 445 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: fought to the fifties, less sideline forty to the thirties, 446 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: Stephon Gilmore to the chad and root to a second 447 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: pick six of the season, touch down Patriots gill locked 448 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: out one off what on an angle by Gilmore off 449 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: this Patriots shoplix late Gilmore closes it's a throat of 450 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: the front. Julie Luck jumps it for sixty four yard touchdown. 451 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: Was a second half start by him. Here. You know 452 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: it's nice. We had a nice little run there, made 453 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: a second turn it up Zolac. Zola gets the bongo drums. 454 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: Gillie Lock spet Von Gilmore, Gillie Lock, Yeah, Bargo about Bargo, Yeah, 455 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: loose baby bom Sochi Scott Zolac with the calf of 456 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: the page her Patriots Radio Network. Yes, Goldilocks return one 457 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: of New England's or interception sixty four yards of the house. 458 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: Patriots clinch a playoffer at Sunday over the Bengals, a 459 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: game that will be remembered less for its outcome and 460 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: more for the latest Patriots scandal that prefaced it. But 461 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. At eleven and two, the path's 462 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: remain in position for the all important first round by 463 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: and now we welcome formally the great Jeremy Bergman, fellow 464 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: native New Yorker. Okay, same thing, tortured Jets Van Burgo 465 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: tell us how the Patriots did it on Sunday? Uh, Well, 466 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: you know all week West was talking up how the Bengals. 467 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: You know this was a trap game for the Patriots. 468 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to play. Did a three game losing streak 469 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: by the you know, almost it would have been one 470 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: of the great predictions. He looked great for about two 471 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: quarters while nearly two quarters ten ten with about two 472 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: minutes left in the in the second quarter and Alex 473 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: Erickson muffs au punt and from there the Patriots rolled. 474 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: The Patriots kicked a field goal to go into the 475 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: half to take a lead, and then coming out of 476 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: the half. UH. Dalton throws two picks on the first 477 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: two drives, both to Gilmore who was in coverage on 478 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd second Gilmore. This is a big game for him. 479 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: You know, we're talking you know about t J. Watt 480 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: or Daniel Hunter in some spaces. Stephan Gilmore has been 481 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: the the deploy for pretty much the entire season, starting 482 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: with the Boogeyman defense. UH in the start of the 483 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 1: season so um and then J. C. Jackson got two 484 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: picks at the end, Dalton through four picks season high 485 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: and UH. You know, I think this is a reminder 486 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: that the Patriots secondary, even against inferior opponents, UH is 487 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: possibly the best, probably the best in the league. And 488 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: UH a reminder that the Patriots can beat up on 489 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: these teams. But the offense, uh look terrible again. I 490 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: mean Brady had a season leve and passing yards. Edelman 491 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: didn't look right. Nick kill Harry had a couple of catches. 492 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: SNeW was was dropped out right. Pass is all over 493 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: the place, thirty one drop backs for the Patriots, passing 494 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: a hundred sixteen yards rough did it didn't look as 495 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: bad as that sounds. Uh it did. I mean it's 496 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: aside from uh the pick six. The Patriots had two 497 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: scores in two touchdowns in the second half, and both 498 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: of them came on short fields. So they're not moving 499 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: the ball and they're averaging They average four point six 500 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: yards per play. Brady got hit six. They ran the 501 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: ball a little bit though, which they they have not 502 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: been able to do, and they get nikkil Harry involved 503 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: playing him about I think it was thirty six snaps 504 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: where he hasn't been too involved. He had a couple 505 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: of runs, he did get a touchdown, uh catch. They're 506 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: just looking for incremental improvement with with the line, I 507 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: would think, especially because they're gonna need a running game 508 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: and they're gonna need a turnover margin like this. It's 509 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: it's not an easy method to try to go win 510 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with turnover margin. But there plus twenty 511 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: four on the year, and a lot of that's been 512 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: against the bad teams in the league. But that that's 513 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: the only way they're gonna win games in the playoffs 514 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: against good teams is with this secondary picking off passes. 515 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: So by by that statement, you're saying you have no 516 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: hope that they're going to turn their offense around. I 517 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: have hope that they can be situationally a lot better. 518 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: Yes that they can, that they can be good enough 519 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: that but you're gonna there's no way they're winning three 520 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: playoff games without the defense and special teams bawling out. 521 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: That's the rest of Greg. This is and this is 522 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: not news to you. You've been tracking this team very closely, 523 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: as you track all teams, but especially with your boys, 524 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots. But Tom Brady lives in the sub Gabbard zone. 525 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Now like this is not this is happening every week. 526 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: You go all the way back last let's see five 527 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: weeks now, starting with the Eagles win seventeen ten, four 528 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: point six yards pert tempt and the Gabber zone is 529 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: anything sub five yards per ten, uh, five point one 530 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: yards sub six, five point one against the Cowboys, six 531 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: point nine against the Texans with some garbage time at 532 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: the end, and then four point seven last week against 533 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and then four point four this week. I 534 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: mean this is Burgo. This is nothing new, and we 535 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: keep on saying, well, he'll turn it on, he'll turn 536 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 1: it's worth point. They won. Yeah, that's fair to point out, 537 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: but you know the score. But you're playing the Bengals, 538 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: who are a loss away from you know the first 539 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: uh picking the draft. There were fans more Patriots fans 540 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: than Bengals fans at this game. But the Bengals fans 541 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: who were there, uh, they were saying, uh, I have 542 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: the I have the Tiger. Go Bengals go as in 543 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: the Bayou go. But they're rooting for Joe Burrow. They 544 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: were paying more attention to the Heisman Trophy. Yeah, the 545 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: magic number is one because they're they're up to the Giants. Uh, 546 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: foreshadowing win over the Dolphins. Up two games. Sorry, well 547 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: you know two games ahead of the of the of 548 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: the Bengals. It is crazy. I mean they throw the 549 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: ball eight times, this a new thirteen yards five times 550 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: to Edelman, this is becoming a bigger concern. He looked 551 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: banged up or I heard that he was in this 552 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: game five targets for nine yards. And I don't know 553 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: what to take from the running game either, because the Bengals, 554 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: like I mean, against every team except the Jets can't 555 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: stop the run. And Michelle had a great game Birkehead 556 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: revenge game with a touchdown h late in the second half. Um, 557 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure how much to read into that 558 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: because of the opponent. It's it is crazy, though. This 559 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: is their tenth straight eleven win season, so they did 560 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: it all decade eleven plus no no other team in 561 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: NFL history has ever gone above seven straight of though, 562 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: So the way I kind of look at it like 563 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: as if this is the the end of the Patriots, 564 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: like the end the end is like they're winning eleven, 565 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: Like that's that's like a worthy end to what's been 566 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: the greatest dynasty and what's happening here. But it's true though, 567 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: like if disintegration of the Patriots, which just so happens 568 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: again is like you're the seven happens against the backdrop 569 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: of the latest scandal that is gripping this Team Spy Harder, 570 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: which featured of course Jay Glazer of Fox going on 571 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: the pregame show and having video evidence of what went down, 572 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: right down to a Bengal Stafford West is a proud 573 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: former since the Cincinnati resident that that guy for the 574 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: Bengals was very strong and his takedown of that Patriots videographer. 575 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: We have a spot for him on West Security, the 576 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: jackets of which you see on the sidelines of most NFL. 577 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: So the way he handled that and the way the 578 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: Patriots staffer immediately just do it. I'll do it. Hey, 579 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 1: what if I deleted? Nobody has to be the wiser 580 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: and that's right. Now, give me a break with how 581 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: then the Bengals got It's like a cop like pulling 582 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: somebody over. He's like, the Bengals guy, what do he said? 583 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: He made a comment like, well, you should have thought 584 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: about this before you did. It was like one of 585 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: those like Dad lines that we needed a naked light 586 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: bulb in there, maybe just one loan chair. It was. 587 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: It was a great grilling session by Bengal security. So 588 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: I guess I'm just pointing out, Greg, your quarterback looks done. 589 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: And he got another scandal hanging over your head. This 590 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: is is eleven and three is grade? Actually that thought 591 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: the video thing. I don't care about the scandal. No, 592 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: it's helped them though the video. As you guys said 593 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: in the previous show, you didn't think there's too much 594 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: of it. The video, which you can watch, thankfully, kind 595 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: of supports everything that they said that there would be 596 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: nothing that you can be gaining from this what they 597 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: were watching the sideline. I actually feel less confident about 598 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots after seeing that video. I don't think that 599 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: Belichick orchestrated at all, but certainly this should be investigated. 600 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: What it is it's happening. I just love that Wes 601 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: is just you know, Antonio Brownie's the gift that keeps giving. 602 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: They should sign Antonio brown Maybe I'm coming back around. 603 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean they needed they need someone who can get 604 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: open give um burgo. You stick around for another game? Yeah, 605 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: I got nothing to do. All right, let's roll. You're 606 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: actually writing up the Senate snap from that looks left 607 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: Matt throws taught Jones chopped down short of the end zone. 608 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: Is he ruled in or out? He's ruled? I got 609 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: the play. My goodness, Ryan to Jones has given it 610 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: laud of the lead twenty three, twenty two ten play 611 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: seventy yards in unbelievable West Durham and Dave Archer with 612 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: the call for the Falcons Radio network. All Right, we 613 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: had to do some Frankenstein work on that highlights because 614 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't deliver the the drama of what happened. Because 615 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: one play after an incredible Austin Hooper TD catch was 616 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: overturned on a suspect review, Julio Jones is awarded a 617 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: touchdown upon review after a suspect spot by game officials. 618 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: You got that right. Yeah, A lot going on in 619 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: the final seconds of the Falcons win over the Niners. Uh. 620 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: Those final six points came via a fubble recovery. Uh, 621 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: lateral shenanigans that only al Michaels could love. Wink wink, 622 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: Another one of those Burgo classic letdown game for the Niners. 623 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: How do you make sense of this one? I mean 624 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: this is a classic trap. Can you look at the 625 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: schedule and between the Saints, the Rams and the Seahawks 626 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: in the back four of their schedule, they're playing the Falcons, 627 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: who had put up forward against the Panthers last week. 628 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: They've been playing pretty well in the back half of 629 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: the of the season, and so the Niners should have 630 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: handled this team pretty easily. They've had a couple they 631 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: had a couple of injuries today. Richard Sherman, d Ford 632 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: Western Richburg were all out and that certainly had an effect. 633 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: But you would have thought maybe you were going to 634 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: get a shootout between these two sides, given how uh 635 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: the Niners had been playing against a team like the Saints, 636 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: and then how the Falcons has been playing on offense 637 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: all year. And really it was a defensive struggle up 638 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: until the fourth quarter when they started trading scores. Uh 639 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: Garoppolo Uh. Uh scored on a past to Kyle us Check. Uh. 640 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: The Falcons come back and score, and then uh, you know, 641 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: the Niners kick a field goal and the nine and 642 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: the Falcons get back down the field. Uh. The Falcons 643 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: get back down the field, and you have that wild 644 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: sequence of events. In eight seconds, there's a past to 645 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: Austin Hooper that he's catching in between his legs. He's 646 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: holding it, who's holding onto the ball with only one hand, 647 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: but it touches the ground, slips, it slips out of 648 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: his hand. It slips out of his hand, but the 649 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: call and I'm just glad because ball don't lie that 650 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: they got the touchdown the next play, because that's not 651 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: how they deserve to lose the Falcons. Where was we're 652 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: talking about replay again here? Where was the evidence that 653 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: overturns that call? Where did we see an angle that 654 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: showed the pigskin touching the field turf? I think you 655 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: definitely saw in his left hand or whatever it was, 656 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: you see him hold the ball, it touches some sort 657 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: some sort of surface, and then he his grip loosens, 658 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: meaning you know, it looked like his cleat though was 659 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: up against I don't think so. I think I think 660 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: it hit the terif I'm not gonna I that one. 661 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: Did it saw him at least fumble the ball in 662 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: the end zone. It's too costly, though, it's not too 663 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: costly for the forty diers. I know they people get 664 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: really into like, oh, they filed down to the fifth seed. 665 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: You know, Okay, that's fine. If they win their next 666 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: two games, they should They should be the one seed 667 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: if they beat the Seahawks. Not even if they beat 668 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: the right well that ends well. The Rams game could 669 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: affect whether it'd be the one seed or or just 670 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: winning the division in getting the two seed. But it's 671 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: not a killer. I've never seen a game where it's 672 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: two pass catchers going against each other quite like this. 673 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: George Kittle seventeen targets, thirteen catches, hundred and thirty four yards. 674 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: No one else on the team had more than four targets. 675 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: Julio Jones twenty targets, thirteen for one thirty four. No 676 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: one else on the team had more than twenty seven yards. 677 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: So it's just Julio versus Kiddle back and forth, and 678 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: I love that sounds great. A game where they're so 679 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: shorthanded at receiver in Atlanta compared to what they started 680 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: the year with and you just throw it to Julio 681 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: twenty times and he goes and wins it. Tough, He's 682 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: still got it. I think there's there's this idea in 683 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: fantasy circles that like Julio because he goes long stretches 684 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: without touchdowns is over the hill. Now he's amazing still 685 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: in all Pro you probably just said this exactly these numbers, 686 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: but they had exactly the same. Yes, is odd, very 687 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: odd point. It was. It was more um Stark with 688 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: the Niners, though, because you know they have been, you know, 689 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: succeeding on offense because they had been throwing to Deebo, 690 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: Samuel and Emmanuel Sanders getting that receiver game. Uh in 691 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: the last half of the season, uh beefed up. But 692 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: here there was Garoppolo was holding the ball too long. 693 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: He ended up dumping the ball off to most dirt 694 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: and Kittle a bunch. And it was actually the fact 695 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: that Kittle had such a big line and no scores. 696 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: It was indicative of how kind of broken and slow 697 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: the Niners offense looked all season or uh in this game, Uh, 698 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: their first scoring drive, um, and this you know, they 699 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 1: had a bunch. They made a bunch of big plays 700 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: against the Saints, right, they had the big touchdown to 701 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: Manuel Sanders and all that. Their first scoring drive was 702 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: twenty one plays for ten minutes and four three seconds, 703 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: the longest drive in football this season. And uh, you know, 704 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: it looked like they were going to control the clock 705 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: against the Falcons, and they were holding the Falcons um 706 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: scoreless for most of the game, but it didn't work 707 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: out at the end. I'm kind of amazed at their 708 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: defensive line, which I started the season thinking they could 709 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 1: be historic and now they're just great, you know, they're 710 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: they're not a stork. I'm just amazed that that's that 711 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: they couldn't just dominate the game enough to just win. 712 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: But that's what happened. Sometimes when you have an m 713 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: v P type of quarterback on the other side, you 714 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: don't know. They're also depleted. They don't have the depth 715 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: to do the rotation they were doing earlier in the year. 716 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: Does anyone think dan Quinn can possibly save his job? 717 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I think a win like this is a 718 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: potential game changer if they have to win out a 719 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: thing too. And I know it seems meaningless because what's 720 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: the difference between five and eleven and seven and nine 721 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: whether you should keep your coach, But these are the 722 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: type of wins I think gets ownership's attention that the 723 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: team hasn't quit, that they have there's a ceiling there. 724 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: I I think it's more likely Greg that he does go. 725 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: I think he's the first one like that. They've decided 726 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: this by around the bye week. I think they already decided, Hey, 727 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: where's here's what we're gonna do because to them, seven 728 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: and nine is a huge disappointment. So I think they're 729 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: gonna look at the whole season, even if they win 730 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: the next two and yeah, this it didn't feel good 731 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: for the Niners. When Matt Ryan goes takes the field 732 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: with about two minutes to play and three time outs, 733 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: it felt like a dangerous spot for the Niners. And 734 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: sure enough Ryan goes right down the field called it 735 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: I did I'll take that burgo kind of make one more. 736 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: All three of San Francisco's losses have come on the 737 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: very last player, the very last play, and last week 738 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: they gave up the game winning we're supposed to be 739 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: game winning drive to the Saints. So going forward, the 740 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: Niners at the death are they reliable? Late in the 741 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: fourth quarter asked for one more point? He made it 742 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: count and one And where can you find if you 743 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: can find him on Twitter at at j A Bergmann, 744 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: great follow. You could also see him in the two 745 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: thousand five Will Ferrell coming he got the gear right 746 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: and screaming. You can find him in our news room too, 747 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: if you can get past security get into our building. 748 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: He's always in like the first desk in the right corner. 749 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: If you knock on the door into the news room, 750 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: he'll probably be the guy that that answers the dog 751 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: and and and tell us Jeremy's will for all funny 752 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: off cameras he is on because he's a real hoot. 753 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 1: I'll never tell all right, fare I go, thank you, buddy. 754 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: And if Eally complains that you were up here too long, 755 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: send him up here. We'll have a conversation with him. 756 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: I'll let him know I love that. And it's like 757 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: a good Fellas some potential airtime. He's like, fine, I'll go, 758 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: go go. It's like a good Fellas when you know 759 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: the young ray Leota has some issues with the with 760 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: the progress reports from the school, and then they throw 761 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: the mail man in the pizza oven and say, no 762 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: more mail gets to their house. That's what you're gonna 763 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: do with you really comes up here, we'll have to 764 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: get the pizza. Very lombardion of you to bring it 765 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: back to Like a good Fellas reference, I have no 766 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: issues with. Really, he's a fine man. I love Dave alright, 767 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: that's uh. I will not throw Dave Eally in a 768 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: pizza oven. That is my solemn promise. Cut that drop, 769 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: thank you, Jeremy single back offense, Harry Jones, let on setbacks, 770 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: Rogers under Center, takes hand off, Jones bouncing luck fix 771 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: the turn, flicks the tackle. The trend of the five 772 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: pre pilot hands up. It is a tech stop beat 773 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: Prince Someone and the Packers one yard touchdown run, fire 774 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: and Jones fixed in the margin of thirteen three. Wayne 775 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: Lara Vie with the call for the Packers radio network. 776 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones ran for two scores. Davante Adams had another 777 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: touchdown catch. The Packers beat the Bears. That moves Green 778 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: Bay to eleven and three. They locked remain locked into 779 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: that number two seed, the huge matchup against the Vikings 780 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: looming in week sixteen. The Bears, well, there're seasons effectively 781 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: over um they are eliminated from playoff contention in the NFC, 782 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: And you know not, it's not the same thing as 783 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: the Rams, because I didn't. I kind of bought in 784 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: a little bit on the Rams recent hot streak and 785 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 1: then they lay an egg in this game with the Bears. 786 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever really truly bought in 787 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: that they were gonna make this great miracle run in 788 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: the end. And but I also thought maybe they could 789 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: make it a game on Sunday because the Packers aren't 790 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: playing so hot right now, but it kind of more 791 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: or less played to script where Green Bay gave you 792 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: enough offense. It's just kind of what they are right now. 793 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: A team that's not gonna be blowing the doors off anybody, 794 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: but they score the two or three touchdowns necessary, kick 795 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: a couple of field goals sometimes and they'll get the W. 796 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna work when the competition 797 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: jumps up a notch, but it was enough to be 798 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: a Bears team Uh that just you know, didn't have 799 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: it this year. And that's and that's uh, that's all 800 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: you gotta say about them, really, but we'll say more 801 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: so were you are you impressed with this Packers offense 802 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: or were you today? Because we've been in lockstep that 803 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: even though they're winning, we're just not impressed with the 804 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: fact that they lack a chain moving element to this offense. 805 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: It's all sizzle, no steak, all style, no substance, all flash, 806 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: no sustainability. You know what they need? They need like, yeah, 807 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: they need like a two thousand, fourteen Randall Cobb. They 808 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: need somebody beyond just uh Aaron Jones at Davante uh 809 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: uh Davante Adams. There was a moment in this come 810 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: about two thousand eleven, Aaron Rodgers taking a checkdown every 811 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: once in a while. Well, I'll say this. I'll say 812 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: this because I I'm I'm with you that Rogers is 813 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: been his own worst enemy in some cases. But I 814 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: just keep on getting reminded of you know this, in 815 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: this game, in the first quarter, Rogers hangs in the pocket, 816 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: gets drilled, unfurls a gorgeous deep ball that should have 817 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: been a seventy yard touchdown. Marquez Valda's scantling has two 818 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: steps on the defender and he doesn't even drop it. 819 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: It just shoots through his open hands, and it's like, 820 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,760 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? And he was basically removed 821 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: from the game plan after that. They do that every week, 822 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: that he does something they don't like, and then they removed. 823 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: That's what they did in this case. And then I 824 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: looked at I looked at the numbers for the Packers 825 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: on offense, because it does feel one dimensional, especially their 826 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: passing game. And sure enough, you've got Davante Adams, who 827 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: missed like a quarter of the season with that toe injury. 828 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: He is by far their most productive receiver in terms 829 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: of catches, yards, touchdowns. Then their next to most productive 830 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: receivers are running backs and Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams, 831 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: and then you get to Jimmy Graham in two thousand nineteen, 832 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: So two thousand nineteen, Jimmy Graham is snaps today, Yeah, 833 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: before the next wide receiver shows up, which is Jeronimo Allison, 834 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: who hasn't done much this year. Then you get to 835 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: MBS and then finally Alan Lozard, who has made some plays. 836 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: He is though he's their guy the last three weeks, 837 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: he's their number two receiver. They've kind of settled in 838 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: on a rotation which is like Rogers maybe is holding 839 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: the ball too long, but it's a product of the 840 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: fact that he has receivers that aren't getting open and 841 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: he's trying to make it happen, but there's nothing happening. 842 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: Lazard is an undrafted guy, and if he's going to 843 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: be the guy that steps up, it shows you that 844 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: they just haven't done a good job helping Rogers with weapons. 845 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: But there's been there's been a lot of consternation and 846 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: we've we've added to it. You know, what is with 847 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 1: this team's identity. You know, our our friend Aaron Nagler said, 848 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: maybe this team is you know, identity is just winning ugly, 849 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: which for this team, but the way they came into 850 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: this season, they are finding ways. The fact that they 851 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: have eleven wins says something. The defense has come along 852 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: a little bit lately after a pretty long slump. But 853 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: close out a game Aaron Rodgers, it was on him 854 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 1: a little bit late. He nearly fumbled it, he nearly 855 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: had an interception. He had some mental strange decisions in 856 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. And I've noticed their offense, especially late 857 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: in game struggles. Their last five drives here where all 858 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: they needed at any point was was about a five 859 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: minute drive or a field goal drive. And you win 860 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: the game and you knock your rivals out for the season. 861 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: One first down punt, then three and out, three and out, 862 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: three and out, three and out. That's all in the 863 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. So they were begging Mitch to come back 864 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: in this game, and the Bears almost did, and Mitch 865 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: couldn't do it. And I'll say this, the Bears rolled 866 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 1: up eight d and one yards and fifty five points 867 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: in the previous two weeks. Uh and Trabiski, after a 868 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 1: nothing first quarter, finished with three eight yards on fifty 869 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: three passes, but you know what his I'll remember this 870 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: game for a fourth quarter interception that he fired right 871 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: into the arms of Dean Lowry. And it's the type 872 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: of failure that you'll remember this season by just Trabinsky 873 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: taking the book. They got the ball after a punt 874 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: after another three and out by the Packers at their 875 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: own forty down eight with a chance to save their season, 876 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: and um, Trabinsky just wasn't up for it. And I 877 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: just wonder, this will be interesting. He is two games 878 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: left here, what what the Bears do and we'll have 879 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: time to talk about that. But this this was a 880 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: chance in a big spot on the road to make 881 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: something happen. And again the Bears in their offense just 882 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: they weren't up for it. They made it as painful 883 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: as possible for Bears fans. I mean, I know they get, yes, 884 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: you want to be in a meaningful game in mid December. 885 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: At least they gave them that. But having it basically 886 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: end on the Packers after getting their hopes up a little, 887 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: that's as tough as it gets. And by the way, 888 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: you know Khalil Mack and that defense they hit Rogers 889 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: four times and had one sack. So you know they 890 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: they needed everybody to step up in this game and 891 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: keep the season alive. And you know what nobody did. 892 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: And as a result, in July, baby, let's move up 893 00:45:54,640 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 1: and pip helmet that capacity. They dropped the ball a 894 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: cup by a Viking couching around good foibles, the tifty 895 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: to the forty goes tifty six shirt defensive touchdown by 896 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 1: a funny ohable Paul Allen, Vikings Radio Network, a funny 897 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,720 Speaker 1: oh Dunnabo scooped up a loose ball gallop to Gloria. 898 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: Game changing play in the game that quickly turned into 899 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: a vicious blowout thirty nine ten in favor of the 900 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: Vikings over the host Chargers West. This game was ten 901 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 1: nine in the second quarter. Your locke was looking pretty good. 902 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: But then the Charges. You know, they had seven turnovers, 903 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: and you know, bad things happen when you turn it 904 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: over seven times in a football game. Listen to this 905 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: string of possessions, which I assure you have not heard 906 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: anything so offensive today. Interception fumble returned for touchdown, end 907 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: of half, fumble, punt turnover on downs, fumble, interception, interception 908 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: end game. That was their last nine possessions of the game. 909 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: The phill play the whole game. Phil played the whole game. 910 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: And here's what's going on with Phil. His arm is shot. Phil, 911 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 1: his arm is shot. And you know how we talk 912 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: about see it throw a quarter quarterbacks who have to 913 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: see the receiver come open before they actually released the ball. 914 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: Rivers has always been the opposite of that. He is 915 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: the most timing based quarterback in the NFL. He throws 916 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: two spots and he wants the receiver to be there. 917 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: That has turned this year into throwing the ball up 918 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: and praying that when the ball finally descends out of 919 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: the air, the receiver just happens to be there. And 920 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: sometimes the defensive back is there instead. And that's what 921 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: happened today. Melvin Gordon fumbled twice. Watched the final twenty 922 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: five minutes from the bench, costly fumbles. The This was 923 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: a bad job locking by me and an even worse 924 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: job by the charge. It showed boldness, but it was 925 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: always a dangerous lock because the Vikings have shown all year, 926 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, they're a better team. But the Chargers had 927 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 1: some juice going into the game. I mean, Phil doesn't 928 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 1: make any sense. For Phil, just like call him Phil 929 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 1: uh to join Eli walking into the sunset this year? 930 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: Or do you think this is a guy that's gonna 931 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 1: try to, you know, make right after what's been pretty 932 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: much a down season for him. I wonder where this ends. 933 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't think he's opened up so far stadium with 934 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: the Chargers, but I think he might try to play 935 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: somewhere else. Does Anthony Lynn open up so far with 936 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: the Chargers? I think so. I think he has a 937 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: better chance than Phil. I wouldn't rule out I think 938 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: Rivers could get a job somewhere. I do. I think 939 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 1: he's shown enough this year, although it's getting tough and uh. 940 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: One thing the last couple of years have taught us, 941 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: especially with offensive line play falling so far behind the 942 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: athleticism of pass rushers, your old quarterback has to either 943 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: have a great offensive line or be so good at 944 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball quickly that it's not a 945 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: factor because these old quarterbacks just you put him with 946 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: a good line. I think he'd be a pretty solid 947 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, but they don't have that, and that's you 948 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: don't want to go into a season with that if 949 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: I guess if you're the Chargers. For the Vikings, though, 950 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 1: This is an impressive win, you know. I know it's 951 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: all on turnovers, but they've needed it. I don't think 952 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 1: they've played quite their best lately. The big concern for 953 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: them is they lose Dalvin Cook to a shoulder injury 954 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: and that you know it's been happening where he doesn't 955 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: make it through the game and now you have a 956 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: much bigger game next week. And Madison wasn't playing his 957 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: backup Alexander Madison with an ankle injury. Mike Boone saw 958 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: a lot of playing time. Um Kirk Cousins did hit 959 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: six out of six on the opening drive on the road, 960 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: so that's worth noting. And Daniel Hunter, I'm not sure 961 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: we can say defensive player of the year, and in 962 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: a year with t J. Watt playing so well with 963 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, de Bosa brothers, I'm not sure he's better 964 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: than all those guys, but he's making a strong case. 965 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,280 Speaker 1: He had two forced fumbles, a fumble recovery, a sack. 966 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: He was all over. This is all when the game 967 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: was still close. So they play the Packers next week, right, 968 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: what they do? They host the Packers and they are 969 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 1: bankable in that don't and they take you know, they 970 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: get into first place, this is their chance to have 971 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: their first win the season against the winning team and 972 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: they will do it though, West and this will be 973 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: fun to track, especially for you and I. You mentioned 974 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: that's a banged up backfield. Who knows what they have 975 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: it is. You're gonna put a lot. It's gonna be 976 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: a lot on Kirk to move the ball in a 977 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,479 Speaker 1: big spot again for the NFC North on the line. 978 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: I can't wait to ignore the other fifty two players 979 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,280 Speaker 1: on his team after the game when it's on Monday 980 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 1: night football on and we're telling we're taping that night, 981 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: especially timed podcasts guaranteed that it does not matter one 982 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: bit what anyone else on that roster does except for Kirk. Cousins. 983 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about. Oh I gotta right 984 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: power rankings, Lady, Dad, Dan, We should all be watching 985 00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: this game together Christmas Live, Live, live podcast, Well live, Cousins, 986 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: uh and you know, come to the garage, guys, All right, 987 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: let's go, Spencer were Sprinton action to the right side 988 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: in the right flat, Mahomes holding it under pressure, Pump 989 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: faking moving to his right, trying to keep the play alive. 990 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: Keeps it alive and finds in the end zone for 991 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: two points. Sammy Watkins and the Chiefs to snow Angels 992 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: in the end zone with a two point play. Didn't 993 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: look like figure skating at Rockefeller's Center as he was 994 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: going back and forth and back and forth and then 995 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: finally spinning and finding in the back of the end zone. 996 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins for two in the Chiefly twenty three to three. 997 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: Mitch Halters in the Chiefs Radio network, Patrick Mahomes through 998 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: for three forty two scores, Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey. 999 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: They were making plays in Kansas City rolls to a 1000 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 1: three win over the Broncos. The wind keeps Kansas City 1001 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: a step behind New England for the second playoff. By 1002 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: Greg Uh. Maybe we're still waiting for the Chiefs to 1003 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: achieve full lift off on offense, but today that's more 1004 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: encouraging progress for their defense. Three points against the Denver 1005 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: team that was kind of looking on the up and up. Yeah, 1006 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: continuation of what they've shown us on defense, which with 1007 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,439 Speaker 1: a really good past defense and a good pass rush 1008 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: with Chris Jones, Uh and Frank Clark playing well today. 1009 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: But the story was the offense. I don't care that 1010 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: it says twenty three points. This did look like the 1011 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: Phillis offense that I've been waiting to see for a month. 1012 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was one of, if not the best, 1013 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes game of the year. It could have easily 1014 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: been a forty burger. You know, the weather was tricky, 1015 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: so they settled for some field goals. Mahomes is one, 1016 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: you know, bad decision of the day. He did get 1017 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: picked off late, uh, kind of in garbage timer. They 1018 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: could have had more, but man, in such bad weather, 1019 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: I was amazed how he showed everything. I mean touch 1020 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: on some throws, he had some heaters, he had great accuracy, 1021 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: he moved well somehow in the snow. I sort of 1022 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: didn't understand it because it looked like the snow was 1023 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: killing the Broncos and his his throws were just fantastic 1024 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: all day. I feel like it's been said before. I 1025 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: remember I believe a fifty to nothing Patriots with sixty something. 1026 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah that And I remember I believe it was Tom 1027 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: Brady who said that snow is not really a huge 1028 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: detriment to an offense. It's more like rain and muddy 1029 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: fields that could cause drama. But it was it was 1030 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 1: like driving snow. And yes, the footing you can get 1031 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: receivers more open, but it was more just the quality 1032 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: of his actual passes. Uh and Travis Kelsey helped him 1033 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: out by making some great catches and Tyreek Hill and 1034 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: it's just I think this was if you're a Chiefs fan, 1035 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 1: this is exactly what you wanted to see everything kind 1036 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 1: of about. Yeah, the Casey offense is on track right now. 1037 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: They don't have a much of a running game that's 1038 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,720 Speaker 1: been there all year and that was no better today, 1039 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,280 Speaker 1: So that's kind of their one weakness. But the passing 1040 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 1: game to me, Uh looked in full flight. Well, I 1041 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 1: think we both said around there by time a month 1042 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,439 Speaker 1: of go, we expect him to not lose another game 1043 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 1: until that Ravens game in the a f C title 1044 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: showed him. To me, these are by far the two 1045 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: best teams in the n f C, the Chiefs and 1046 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens, right, and I do think they're ceiling is 1047 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 1: right there with the r Ravens. The problem, of course 1048 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 1: now is they're either gonna have to win the Chiefs 1049 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,919 Speaker 1: that is two road games or at least one road game, 1050 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 1: you would think to get to the Super Bowl. But 1051 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 1: like I said, with the defense playing well and Tyrone, 1052 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: Matthew and Wan Thornhill had another great game. I mean, 1053 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: honey Badger was all over the place. It was a 1054 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: very telling sequence where he picked off a pass that 1055 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: was uh overturned by a very questionable penalty and the 1056 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: next play Thornhill picked out a pass of Drew Lock 1057 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: and I think Matthew had a sack and a couple 1058 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: more passes defense that they look good. They looked like 1059 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: the Chiefs that are producer Ryan Bartlett's hoping to see. 1060 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it's PTSD UM. I don't know, but one of 1061 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,959 Speaker 1: those teams that you just mentioned, the Ravens are Chiefs. 1062 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: There's a good chance one of them's got to go 1063 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: to Gillette Stadium and win in Foxboro to get to 1064 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: that age the title game the Chiefs. Yes, Um, so 1065 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: that's still gotta happen, and that will be a big 1066 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 1: test when it happens. But yes, what we have seen 1067 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: to this point from these three teams, it does seem 1068 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: like New England's the clear cut number three in the conference, 1069 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: even if they end up with I agree, and the 1070 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: Chiefs have to feel good. I know is early, but 1071 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 1: they beat the other two, and so at least I 1072 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: think that they should feel good about that, and they 1073 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 1: should feel good that they they run this division like 1074 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: no other team other than the Patriots, of course, run 1075 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,320 Speaker 1: a division. They are twenty six and three against the 1076 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: a f C West since two thousand and fifteen, including 1077 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: nine and one against the Broncos, and they beat them, 1078 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: beat the like the Broncos have been competitive all year 1079 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: except for when they play the Chiefs and then they 1080 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: get just you know, slapped around. Um. All right, let 1081 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: us move on to another team that got slapped around 1082 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: today seven and a half ago, they lead by eleven 1083 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,919 Speaker 1: second and one of the seven team they run Drake 1084 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,839 Speaker 1: Whiteside ten five four touch shown for ten and Drake 1085 00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,280 Speaker 1: and maybe puts this game away thirty four to seven 1086 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: team midway through the fourth quarter. The Bronze could not 1087 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: take even one more flat trouble. First, I might have 1088 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 1: that one cut just so our gear is it Dave 1089 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: passion ron Wolfy. That was Wolfy with the call our 1090 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: old friend with like the dabbled in frost and the 1091 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: Breeze quote from Oh Yeah Yeah, with the moon with 1092 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: the moon and the the Jesse the body Ventura voice 1093 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,799 Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio Network with the call yes, Kenyan Drake four touchdowns? 1094 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: Whoa David Johnson is? Like what Kyler Murray through for 1095 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: two nineteen yards in a score Cardinals in a six 1096 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: game losing streak by beating up on the Browns. All right, 1097 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: let's bring in the great muscular both in body frame 1098 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 1: and in the mind. Most importantly, Nick Shook, who tracked 1099 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: this game for us from his Cleveland mansion, Shook another 1100 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 1: disappointing effort by the Browns in a season full of them. 1101 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: I like how my character is added the mansion, like it, 1102 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 1: like myself out I just assumed, you know, it's much 1103 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine cost of living is. It's just a 1104 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 1: lot more affordable in Ohio compared to southern California. And 1105 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 1: that paycheck that only went so far out here is 1106 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: sending you straight to the nice neighborhood on the right 1107 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: side of the tracks, right from from the second floor 1108 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: apartment in the west side of l A to the penthouse, right. 1109 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: Shaker something like, don't don't worry about the facts, Nick, 1110 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 1: You're just you know, another character and Dan's play the truth. 1111 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: The truth is you know, your create your own story. 1112 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: Um anyway, Yeah, so the Browns. Of course it shook you. 1113 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: You worked with the Browns earlier this season, and uh, 1114 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds, with some of the way 1115 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: things had been shaking out in the a f C, 1116 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: if they would have won today, maybe there would be 1117 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of buzz um, you know, as we're 1118 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: taping this Sunday night football is going on. But like 1119 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: some buzz about the Browns having a Paulson, as it 1120 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: turns out that was all or not, because again, did 1121 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: they just not show up here pretty much? I mean 1122 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: from the jump the Cardinals, they look like a much 1123 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: different team than it looks like two weeks ago when 1124 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: they got destroyed by the Rams. You kind of saw 1125 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: signs of it last week when they lost to the 1126 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 1: Steelers in a close one, but they carried their momentum 1127 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: over this weekend and they were definitely the more prepared 1128 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 1: team I think. I mean, they came out and punched 1129 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: the Browns right in the mouth. The wolf the uh 1130 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 1: explanation of the flat shovel to the face. That that 1131 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,439 Speaker 1: was pretty much how they started the game and also 1132 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 1: how they ended the game, and the Browns were just 1133 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: kind of left too stagger and try to regain their balance, 1134 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 1: and for a moment there they did, but ultimately the 1135 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals were too much, which is hilarious to think about 1136 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: because they were three nine and one entering this game, 1137 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: and just we made a big deal about the brown 1138 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: schedule and how it's supposed to be so easy down 1139 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 1: the back half, and honestly, except for that win over 1140 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, they haven't really looked that convincing against the 1141 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 1: teams that they're supposed to beat, and they didn't look 1142 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: like anything like it today. So yeah, tough day for 1143 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: the Browns. No doubt Dorsey has such a interesting job 1144 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: ahead of him because I think we all looked at 1145 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: this roster entering the season and it looked like it 1146 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: was filled with top tier talent and it's still kind 1147 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: of is. But I'm sure there are improvements that can 1148 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: be made, the offensive line a chief among them, perhaps, 1149 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 1: But at the same time, like, do you make big 1150 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: changes in the off season with this roster or do 1151 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: you make a change on the sideline, like what would 1152 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: be the move for the Browns in the off season, 1153 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: because this has been obviously quite disappointing right Well, I mean, 1154 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: you have some guys who are in their contract years 1155 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 1: who you might see leaves. Uh, some guys that you 1156 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: considered stars are very valuable players who have not played 1157 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: up at that level to Marius Randal being one of 1158 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: those guys who fit both of those descriptions. And you 1159 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: also have to look at the team and wonder if 1160 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: a coaching change is going to help them or not, 1161 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: or you know, you kind of have to. I think 1162 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: you have the almost pulled their players and you kind 1163 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: of figure out what their opinion of their own coaches, 1164 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: which might seem divisive or backhand or whatever it would be. 1165 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you have to understand dan 1166 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: fully the situation and the perspective of your players, because 1167 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: you do have some guys who are proven, a guy 1168 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 1: like Jervis Landry has proven. But a guy like Jervis 1169 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Landry also got into a little bit of a sidelines 1170 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 1: bat with Freddy Kitchens today down in the boat. Yeah, 1171 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: right exactly, And so you know it's it's a matter 1172 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: of is does he have this team still or not? 1173 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: And I think that should influence your decision at some 1174 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: of that decision at the end of the season. But 1175 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: they didn't play like he had them today, I mean 1176 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: their defense, Uh, couldn't stop in those bleed. Their offense 1177 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: tried its best, but even in key situations like that 1178 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 1: fourth or that third down failure to convert. You know, 1179 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,919 Speaker 1: early in the fourth quarter, they settled for a field 1180 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 1: goal and then they missed the field goal and everything 1181 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: just kind of unravels from there. As soon as they 1182 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: missed that kick, it was like, man, this is where 1183 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: everything's just gonna snowball, And sure enough it didn't. And 1184 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 1: you only really wonder, and I think this is gonna 1185 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: be very influential on the status of Kitchen's job moving forward. 1186 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: Is is it gonna snowball into the final two weeks 1187 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 1: of the season or are they going to rebound and 1188 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 1: then you know, maybe when one of those last two 1189 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 1: or get another upset over the Ravens or something like that, 1190 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 1: which I don't think he's going to have been, but 1191 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, hypothetically, if that does happen, then that would 1192 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: reinforce his status as the head coach. But if he 1193 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: goes in the opposite direction, then I think it makes 1194 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 1: your decision almost inevitable. Right rap Sheet reported Sunday morning 1195 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: that the Browns are standing behind Freddie Kitchens right now, 1196 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,959 Speaker 1: and I think the next two weeks. You you said 1197 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: the phrase, they looked the Cardinals looked like they were 1198 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: more prepared. And this year the team with Kenyan Drake's 1199 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: the one that had the running back with four rushing 1200 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: touchdowns a hundred thirty seven yards on the ground. Kyler 1201 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Murray had another fifties twenties eight yard run by you 1202 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: know Kirk it it's I I don't I wouldn't ask 1203 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: the players. I mean that sounds like, you know, asking 1204 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: the homeless guy on the street or whatever. It does 1205 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: not sound Brown's way to do it work for the Browns. 1206 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 1: So you have that kind of group. I mean, it's 1207 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Otto Beckham getting thirteen targets for sixty six yards against 1208 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: one of the worst past defenses in the league. It's 1209 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 1: a mess. I don't need to see the next two weeks. 1210 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: What are the next two weeks gonna tell me? The 1211 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Browns are one of, if not the most consistent team 1212 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: in the entire NFL. They look the exact same every week, 1213 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 1: which is a little sloppy and a little mediocre. There's 1214 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: never a good game. They always every Browns game is 1215 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,919 Speaker 1: kind of the same. There are seven and nine team 1216 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 1: like they could be worse but that's that's what they've 1217 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 1: been pretty much every single game. Tell him Greg, Yeah, 1218 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: they've been. They've been consistently disappointing the entire season. I 1219 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: think that's ultimately what has to influence your decision. I 1220 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: mean I mentioned the players that pulling the players at 1221 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: the end of the season just to like kind of 1222 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: get a feel for how they viewed the coach, because 1223 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 1: this is the first time coach. You know, it's like, 1224 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 1: does he connect with them? Maybe it's a conversation with 1225 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 1: the team captains. I don't know who's a team captain. 1226 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. We got a lot to get to 1227 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 1: with the Browns of the off season, but uh, and 1228 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: a lot to get to for the rest of the show. 1229 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: But uh, Nick uh as always you kill it. You 1230 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 1: speak with confidence and knowledge, and that's what we look 1231 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 1: for in our gunners that we bring in. Well, you look, 1232 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to cover the punt correctly, and I'm trying 1233 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 1: to fill off this mansion directly to once at by 1234 01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: the time, all right, buddy, get to that gym alright 1235 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: later a minute. Let's move on second down. In sixteen, 1236 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Russ takes the shot gun snap has time looks fire's 1237 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 1: got a man opens its touchstoffs Shawks from twenty yards down. 1238 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Luke Kickley looks to the nearest syline and says, coach, 1239 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: I can't cover everybody and lock it. Jeff ran to 1240 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 1: the quarter of the end zone and nobody was underneath him. 1241 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Rest finds him and the Seahawks score their third touchdown 1242 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: in the game. Steve Rabele Seahawks Radio Network with the call. 1243 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson went twenty of twenty six or two eight 1244 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,479 Speaker 1: six two touchdowns, including that connection to Tyler Lockett. Game note, 1245 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 1: looking healthy, looking like he's closer to Tyler Lockett and 1246 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: they need that. And Chris Carson now they defined a 1247 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 1: number one guy with Shot Penny out of the picture 1248 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 1: with the a c L injury. He goes for one 1249 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 1: thirty three two touchdowns. The under man Seahawks got it 1250 01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: done over the Panthers and Charlotte and they were manned Seahawks. 1251 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you how they're undermanned. You know, I'll 1252 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 1: give you this because you're a guy with two and 1253 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: f sacks couldn't make the game. Is that what happened? 1254 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 1: You know? Because I locked up the Seahawks and I 1255 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: got hit with some me or eat and that extended 1256 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 1: throughout the weekend on Twitter and I almost unlocked them. 1257 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: But that, to me, that's even worse. It's like, stand 1258 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 1: by it. They passed my test, they passed the Vegas test. 1259 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 1: I stuck with them, and they played on Sunday without 1260 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney. That's the two and a half sack guy. 1261 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 1: Maybe he's got like three or something. I don't know. 1262 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Ezekiel and Sashakil Griffin, Michael Kendrick. By the time this 1263 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: game was over, they lost Bobby Wagner and Quadre Digs 1264 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 1: to ankle injuries. Wagner it looks like he escaped serious injury, 1265 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 1: but it was a scary looking injury. Digs Pete Carroll 1266 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 1: said after the game, Uh, looks like he's gonna miss time. So, 1267 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this team, especially on defense, is beat up 1268 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: right now, and that that's not great timing wise, when 1269 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 1: you look at where the schedule is heading and as 1270 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 1: we inch closer to January. But you know, luckily they 1271 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 1: still have the indestructible Russell Wilson behind center. He leads 1272 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: to Seahawks on touchdown drives on each of their first 1273 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: three drives, and they kind of coasted to the finish line. 1274 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 1: I will say this thirty to ten with you know, 1275 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: six minutes it was thirty to ten, and uh, I'll 1276 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: say this for the Panthers and another huge game for 1277 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. They scored two quick touchdowns and it's a 1278 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: six point game with less than four minutes to play, 1279 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,520 Speaker 1: and they're facing the Seahawks a third and long with 1280 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 1: a chance for the Panthers to take the field, and 1281 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 1: Wilson does what he does, which is step up, get 1282 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: a big completion to seal the game and keep Kyle 1283 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Allen off the field. Chris Westling, you don't want Kyle 1284 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 1: Allen on the field with a game hanging in the bounce. 1285 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 1: I get up well, Christian Christian McCaffrey. For anybody who's 1286 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: wondering if if this string where the Panthers are just 1287 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 1: bending over and just letting team other teams do whatever 1288 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 1: they want to them. He's still playing at an all 1289 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: pro level. Still looks phenomenal. And I heard you exclaim 1290 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 1: if you times today, Dan, how good Christian McCaffrey looks. 1291 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Just a fantastic season he is. Here's here's some numbers. Uh, 1292 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: a hundred seventy five yards on a touchdown. Today, He's 1293 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 1: now over two thousand yards for scrimmage, and if he 1294 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 1: can manage a hundred and eighty six receiving yards over 1295 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: the next two weeks, he'll join Roger Craig and Marshall 1296 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Falk one of the best stats uh in the NFL 1297 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 1: one thousand, one thousand club. He could be the third guy. 1298 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,919 Speaker 1: So any and I need to talk about shutting him down. Listen, 1299 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 1: these are football players. They play a football season. He's 1300 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: as you say, West, there's only sixteen of these and 1301 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 1: this guy, you can never take away the history from him. Uh, 1302 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 1: if he's able to go one thousand, one thousand. So yes, 1303 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 1: while there's common sense, and Greg, I know you're gonna 1304 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 1: come in with a contrarian angle on this one. I 1305 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: agree with you, but okay, um, but if he has 1306 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 1: a chance to do that, that's some special stuff. So 1307 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope he gets that chance, and I 1308 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 1: hope he doesn't. No, I agree they should keep you 1309 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 1: just keep your players on the field. There's people paying money. 1310 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: It's sixteen games. Please, it's a great sign for Lockett. 1311 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 1: I think more than anything, if you're a Seahawks fan 1312 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 1: that they guessing went into this game saying, let's get 1313 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett going, this is too important, and they throw 1314 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 1: to him nine times. He has eight for one twenty. 1315 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: That's huge. Josh Gordon finally makes a big play as 1316 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 1: a receiver. It's good to see. I mean, he has 1317 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:20,080 Speaker 1: really not produced much for the Seahawks, not not as 1318 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 1: productive as a quarterback where he was intercepted on his 1319 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 1: only throw and Greg as the playoff calculator. The Seahawks 1320 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: now eleven and three, the Niners eleven and three. But 1321 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks have the head to head win. The Seahawks 1322 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 1: currently the number one thing they are and in the 1323 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: key is they went out and they do get the 1324 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 1: one scene. So that is that is the upshot of 1325 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 1: everything today. For that they do have to win out. 1326 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 1: They have to the No they're not. I mean, you've 1327 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 1: got the Packers in the mix now too, you got 1328 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 1: the Vikings. Technically the Seahawks finish home Cardinals and then 1329 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 1: home Niners intrusting. All right, let's move on. What a 1330 01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: what a what a heroic to the ends all the 1331 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 1: touched up shot, Primus got the hat trick, is gonna 1332 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 1: touch down three today Bibra Shard Paramouny and well that 1333 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 1: catch he goes over a hundred yards for the first 1334 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 1: time in his career. How about that for a bram 1335 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: spranking new Buck. Here this year Jane dagger House Box 1336 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,959 Speaker 1: Radio Network, Jameis Winston is doing the damn thing. In December, 1337 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Listen to this. That West your aerial history. 1338 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Buff became the first player in NFL history to throw 1339 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 1: for four hundred fifty yards and consecutive games. Yes, leaving 1340 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Bucks to seventeen win over the Lions. 1341 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: The moribundant Detroit Lions, uh four touchdowns one pick for 1342 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Winston West. Are the Bucks really gonna walk away from 1343 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,840 Speaker 1: this marriage? Should they? Where are we at? Where are 1344 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 1: you at? Well? If you don't walk away, you're gonna 1345 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 1: get the same results next year with this quarterback. But 1346 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,200 Speaker 1: you know that's what are these results? I can't I 1347 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 1: can't make sense on any of this. Now. They'll tell 1348 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 1: you into and out of games and you end up 1349 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 1: with a five record or thereabouts, and this game is 1350 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: exactly what you would expect. I missed the first quarter 1351 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,799 Speaker 1: because I had to drive home and get my laptop, 1352 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 1: which I forgot that that was a bummer. That came 1353 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,719 Speaker 1: back to a report that Jamis Winston threw another interception 1354 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 1: on the opening drive, which now makes five games this 1355 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 1: year which he's done that and he is amazingly four 1356 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 1: and one in those games. Well that, yeah, it gets 1357 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 1: him in the right mindset of like, all right, let's go. 1358 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,960 Speaker 1: He also had two yards by the end of the 1359 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 1: first quarter in this game. I saw Mike Sando of 1360 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: The Athletic tweeted that he could not find another quarterback 1361 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,120 Speaker 1: in the database that had more passing yards through twenty 1362 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,759 Speaker 1: three minutes of a game than Jamis Winston did today. 1363 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 1: At one at that point in the game, it was 1364 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,600 Speaker 1: mid second quarter, the Bucks had three fifteen yards and 1365 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 1: the lines had two. Here's my thing. Anyone capable of 1366 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 1: making the throws that he makes is good at quarterbacking, 1367 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,679 Speaker 1: And I know then yeah, okay, yeah. Turning the ball 1368 01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 1: over is massive and it's hurting his team when you know, 1369 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: lose again, and maybe that's maybe that's forever, but a 1370 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 1: lot of it is luck and happen, like maybe you 1371 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 1: can improve this. He's twenty five years old and he's 1372 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: gonna be maybe leading the leading scoring team in the NFL. 1373 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: By the time and let me piggyback off that, West, 1374 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:20,360 Speaker 1: and then you can respond, Is it's so crazy that 1375 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 1: one of these years, and we always talk about a 1376 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,560 Speaker 1: difference between eight and eight, ten and six, Uh, is 1377 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 1: it's very slim, razors razor thin that one of these 1378 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,080 Speaker 1: years they end up ten and six and Winston gets 1379 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 1: hot in January? Is it so crazy to imagine a 1380 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 1: scenario where Jameis Winston gets his way into the playoffs 1381 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 1: and then starts doing crazy things. Well, let me answer 1382 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 1: these and if if the answer is yes, West, that's 1383 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,680 Speaker 1: why you gotta keep him in the building, if you 1384 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 1: believe he has that potential, because the whole thing is 1385 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 1: about winning the Super Bowl. Is that in his bone 1386 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: somewhere tucked than his d n A Are we seeing 1387 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 1: that peeking out? Or is this all just lipstick on 1388 01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,320 Speaker 1: a pig what we've been seeing this month. I'll answer 1389 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: those questions separately because they are too sotally, totally separate things. 1390 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 1: It's not crazy at all. We've seen all kinds of 1391 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks get hot, from Joe Flacco to Eli Manning, so 1392 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 1: of course Jamis Winston could do that. We've seen Jameis 1393 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 1: Winston get hot for stretches. But for Greg to say 1394 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: this is good quarterbacking, no, it's not. It's it just 1395 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,679 Speaker 1: does a lot of high level quarterbacks that's good passing. 1396 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 1: It's not good quarterback. He's a good passer who makes 1397 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 1: bad decisions and has a has a career record of 1398 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 1: seven and forty. If he was if it was good quarterbacking, 1399 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 1: his record is an important part of quarterbacking, though of 1400 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 1: course it is saying I hear you, it's just tricky 1401 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,640 Speaker 1: because these throws it. It also shows what I think 1402 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 1: people liked out of him coming out of school, which 1403 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,559 Speaker 1: a lot of times it shows kind of a next 1404 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 1: level mental processing, which is why the whole turnover thing 1405 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: is confusing because a lot of things he does he 1406 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,720 Speaker 1: reads defense and he and he kind of thinks through 1407 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,120 Speaker 1: on his good plays really well for a relatively young quarterback. 1408 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 1: I know he's been in the league five years, but 1409 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 1: five years old. It's it's not like he's just kind 1410 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 1: of a big arm that's getting out there and throwing 1411 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,880 Speaker 1: it like he does things that gets quarterback gurus like 1412 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: arians excited. It's also totally ignoring the fact that he's 1413 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,560 Speaker 1: frenetic most of the time. He's not under control a 1414 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 1: lot of the time and that's why he makes mistakes. Also, 1415 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 1: it should be noted in his defense, No Mike Evans 1416 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 1: today when he goes back to back four and fifty 1417 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 1: yards and for the second half, right, No Chris Godwin, 1418 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,760 Speaker 1: who introduces no Way Arians is gonna let him go. 1419 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,720 Speaker 1: That's how I feel, because I think he's gonna look 1420 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 1: at the stats at the end of the year and 1421 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 1: the Bucks are going to be second or first in 1422 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 1: points and yards, and he's gonna be just like I 1423 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 1: don't want to go to the unknown the siren call, 1424 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 1: he won't be able to ignore it. Two more things 1425 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 1: about this game. Shack Barrett what a year, Ties Warren 1426 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Sap sack record for the franchise, and Bruce Arians after 1427 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,560 Speaker 1: the game, this impending free agent is going nowhere, so 1428 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 1: they they will either franchise tag him or sign him. 1429 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 1: But he's not going anywhere. And David Blow made a 1430 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 1: couple of throws to the point where they got within 1431 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,320 Speaker 1: a touchdown and they were kind of some at least 1432 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,639 Speaker 1: the the m and Doula. One was a great catch 1433 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: and then the other one was kind of busting coverage, 1434 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,760 Speaker 1: but he threw the game away. Nicks bag for Mark Sessler, who, 1435 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,040 Speaker 1: of course, no, no, no, this was just an all 1436 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 1: around big game. Those are those are the only two 1437 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: plays for the Lions all game. David Blow then threw 1438 01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,520 Speaker 1: the game away with a pick six and then another interception, 1439 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 1: and then that play got called back, so he threw 1440 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 1: another interception after that. Best case scenario, Matt Patricia's someone's 1441 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator next year. Is that fair? Well, this was 1442 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 1: not a fair fight. The Lions are playing with second 1443 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 1: and third stringers at how many positions? I don't Does 1444 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 1: he get a third year? I don't know. Why do 1445 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: you bring him back? I mean they were three three 1446 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: in one. All right, let's move on Barkley with the 1447 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 1: right of Banning and a shotgun shot Manning on a 1448 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:56,880 Speaker 1: play fake looks right, throws, right, passes, Oh, he's still 1449 01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 1: the five Blacks into the end for a touchdown fifty 1450 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,320 Speaker 1: one yards Banning The team haven't heard much from Bob 1451 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 1: Poppa this year. On the podcast w F A N 1452 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 1: in New York, it looks it looked like the end 1453 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 1: of the Eli era at the meadow Lands. Let's hope 1454 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,719 Speaker 1: it is, because thirty twenty the win over the Dolphins 1455 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 1: on Sunday was a nice way to go out to 1456 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,680 Speaker 1: the old quarterback. Giants. Fans loyal enough to attend to 1457 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 1: match up between the Giants and Dolphins gave their two 1458 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 1: time m v P Super Bowl MVP standing ovation as 1459 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 1: he walked off the field. He went over three yards 1460 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,960 Speaker 1: with two touchdowns and yes, three interceptions and the New 1461 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:39,240 Speaker 1: York Giants snappy franchise record tying nine game losing streak. 1462 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,280 Speaker 1: And I don't know what else you really need to 1463 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 1: know about this game. I don't even know if you 1464 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: need to know that, but I'll tell you that. Uh, yes, 1465 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,800 Speaker 1: Eli did some Eli things and it was really Um, 1466 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,519 Speaker 1: it was nice little moment at the end of the 1467 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 1: game in the tunnel as he left the field. Um, 1468 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 1: his family was there and he was taking pictures with 1469 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 1: his daughter and his chill aldren and um, this certainly 1470 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,200 Speaker 1: felt like a good way for it to end. I 1471 01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,160 Speaker 1: don't even know why you would at this point. Maybe 1472 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,639 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones comes back next year, next week. I don't 1473 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 1: know what his injury situation is, but why even running 1474 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:13,800 Speaker 1: lie out there again? Just go out with the win 1475 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: at home? And well, it's the secure that they're gonna play. 1476 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,720 Speaker 1: You know who is their third. Yes, that's why. That's 1477 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You you just kind of ended here. 1478 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,680 Speaker 1: You put in Alex hand Daniel Jones, do not win, 1479 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,479 Speaker 1: go get Chase Young and fly. Well, they maybe shouldn't 1480 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,080 Speaker 1: try to win games because it's gonna change with the 1481 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,720 Speaker 1: strength of schedule. And who knows what happened, but the 1482 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,800 Speaker 1: Dolphins did pass them. Whereas the Dolphins moved up a 1483 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 1: spot in the draft there they would now be at three. 1484 01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:49,040 Speaker 1: And I believe the Redskins are right too. Uh and yeah, 1485 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,600 Speaker 1: the Dolphins have by the way they do think by 1486 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,920 Speaker 1: the way the kids being in the just the way 1487 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,639 Speaker 1: the last two weeks have played out and the kids 1488 01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 1: in the tunnel, he's retiring, it seems it just feels, Yeah, 1489 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,439 Speaker 1: it just feel he also feels like a guy that 1490 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 1: doesn't want to go to another place or be anyone's backup. 1491 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: So in the fact that the kids were there, laugh, 1492 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 1: you know that you got the wife's there lasting, the 1493 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 1: kids in the tunnel there as they should. I'm happy. 1494 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't know a little final moment. I don't know 1495 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: if this is accurate. It's tankathon dot com, but it 1496 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,560 Speaker 1: has the Giants at number two with the strength of 1497 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:23,680 Speaker 1: schedule advantage over the Dolphins and Redskins fellow three and 1498 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 1: eleven teams. Sounds like a reputable website. Serious they have 1499 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,640 Speaker 1: a great layout of their web. Uh and one one 1500 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 1: note on the Dolphins that there's just so much work 1501 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 1: that needs to be done for this team. And everyone's 1502 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, everyone's talking about the quarterback and going and 1503 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 1: getting that guy and finding the guy. But they have 1504 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,720 Speaker 1: the worst running game in the league. They have an 1505 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 1: offensive line that is completely needs a makeover. And when 1506 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 1: you're leading rusher in two thousand nineteen, is Ryan Fitzpatrick. 1507 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 1: That Ryan Fitzpatrick, the Harvard guy, the Beard guy, like 1508 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 1: seven years old, the guy with all the kids. Oh 1509 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 1: my god, you have a lot of work to do. 1510 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,759 Speaker 1: And it's not just finding a quarterback. Got to start somewhere. 1511 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 1: They said. It fascinating to me. NFL record to date, 1512 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,840 Speaker 1: more players have suited up for the Dolphins and any 1513 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,280 Speaker 1: team in NFL history, and we got two weeks left 1514 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,479 Speaker 1: to go. I wonder if they've also made the most 1515 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,680 Speaker 1: waiver claims in NFL history. It's kind of the way 1516 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 1: to do it. Just try all that all these guys 1517 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 1: out in your tanking season. They still got the Bengals. 1518 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 1: Who knows. Yeah, if you're not gonna try before the 1519 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 1: season starts, that's the way to do it. All right, 1520 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 1: let's move on. You got two seconds left to play. 1521 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 1: Did it right? But you already know what it's gonna be. 1522 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hill mirror car steps up, fires 1523 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,559 Speaker 1: the hail Mary high up into the air, right side 1524 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 1: of the end zone. Jump ball up in the air. Incomplete, 1525 01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 1: and in the final act, the Raiders have lost to 1526 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:52,720 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars in the Oakland Alameter Colosseum, and the 1527 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:57,440 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders are no more know how deflating Rerent Musburger 1528 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 1: and Lincoln Kennedy what they called k CBS Gardner Minshew 1529 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,400 Speaker 1: through two touchdown passes to Chris Conley in the final 1530 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 1: five fifteen and the jack spoiled that final scheduled game 1531 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:16,160 Speaker 1: at Oakland Coliseum a sixteen win. This is not how 1532 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,160 Speaker 1: NFL football in Oakland was supposed to end. Damn, I 1533 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,639 Speaker 1: wish we had some boots on the ground for this game. 1534 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:28,680 Speaker 1: Oh wait, joining us now via the telephone line is 1535 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,600 Speaker 1: the great Mark Sessler, who was there to take it 1536 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 1: all in. First of all, Mark, are you safe. I 1537 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 1: am safe at the moment. But I'm gonna be honest 1538 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 1: with you because you know, we've we've exited Super Bowls 1539 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: before where this is a little bit of a different 1540 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,760 Speaker 1: situation here outside of the Colosseum, I'm on some sort 1541 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 1: of a concourse where people are flowing towards a tunnel 1542 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 1: that leads to a bart station, and I've literally been 1543 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,360 Speaker 1: told by two security people get out of here sooner 1544 01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 1: you may suffer the consequence. So point we will TVD 1545 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,880 Speaker 1: on where I will be an hour from now. Wait, 1546 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,920 Speaker 1: what I mean, what is the vibe there? Obviously we 1547 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,639 Speaker 1: we heard some things about some fighting on the field. 1548 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 1: It wasn't not a chaotic scene, right like what's happening 1549 01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 1: once the CBS cameras go away at the coliseum. It's fine, 1550 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just you know, I grew up in the suburb, 1551 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,599 Speaker 1: so there's an element I'm not. It's honestly, it's totally good. 1552 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,680 Speaker 1: I would say this because I think that you know, 1553 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,679 Speaker 1: and I tweeted out some of the stuff that happened 1554 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,760 Speaker 1: after the game, uh, and it was a five per 1555 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,720 Speaker 1: cent of the fans acting up in a huge chunk 1556 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 1: of them being fine. I think that. I think the 1557 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 1: fact that it's evolved into the loss that it did, 1558 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:40,839 Speaker 1: where at halftime I did a phoner with Sky Sports 1559 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,839 Speaker 1: and I'm owing a hundred and eighty six on predictions 1560 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,960 Speaker 1: on sky Sports this year. But I told him that 1561 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,320 Speaker 1: if the Sessler family owned a house versus renting, that 1562 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 1: I would bet, without any questions or any doubt that 1563 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders were going to take that game, because they 1564 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 1: just rode that feverish emotion in the first half, and 1565 01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 1: then you know, I was wandering around, so I didn't. 1566 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm not a month and for TFF on this particular 1567 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 1: about but I cannot believe the way that it ended. 1568 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,479 Speaker 1: I think the fans are extremely deflated and disappointed, and 1569 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,639 Speaker 1: it let some of the mess the end, which was minor, 1570 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and yeah, it's like bad job by the Raiders, 1571 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 1: who have had a season that had some nice highs. 1572 01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,600 Speaker 1: But you're up sixteen to three, You're against the Jaguars 1573 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 1: team that has been historically awful over the last five weeks. 1574 01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,800 Speaker 1: That's a game that you gotta you just gotta close out. 1575 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,040 Speaker 1: You gotta close it out for your fans, who have 1576 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,800 Speaker 1: been as loyal as any fans in football. Right to 1577 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 1: the very end. So it is just it stinks the 1578 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,679 Speaker 1: way it went out. And one big play Mark, I'm 1579 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,479 Speaker 1: not sure what your vantage point was on the field, 1580 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,120 Speaker 1: but a big play in this game. Uh. Derek Carr 1581 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 1: slides for the first down with the two oh five 1582 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 1: to play, even signals with a like hand gesture to 1583 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 1: the crowd in Oakland. He begins celebrating a victory. They 1584 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,320 Speaker 1: ruled that he slid out of bounds. After the game, 1585 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,719 Speaker 1: he says, that was one of the most shocking moments 1586 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,599 Speaker 1: of my life. Don't want to say much more. I'll 1587 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,120 Speaker 1: keep my money in my pocket because what happens after that? 1588 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 1: They go three and out, miss a field goal, drop 1589 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,880 Speaker 1: a third down throw which they could have run it there, 1590 01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,879 Speaker 1: dropped the third down throw, miss a field goal penalty, 1591 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 1: they get moved in five yards, misses again, and then 1592 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,280 Speaker 1: they allow Gardner Minshew And this is a cruel twist 1593 01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,000 Speaker 1: of irony for you, Mr Sessler, to march the Jags 1594 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,760 Speaker 1: down the field to win the game. Shouldn't end it 1595 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 1: this way, no, you know, it was the wrong day 1596 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,080 Speaker 1: for magics from Mr Minshew. And at that point, because 1597 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,840 Speaker 1: my my goal was to get on the field a 1598 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 1: sap so I was actually watching that series of plays, 1599 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 1: which were the absolute key moments in the game, with 1600 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 1: two very gruff, elderly security men that would not allow 1601 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 1: me to essentially move beyond from point A to B, 1602 01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 1: and I had to wait until the time to take 1603 01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 1: down and and we kind of were joking by the 1604 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 1: end of the final two minutes that game because of 1605 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,800 Speaker 1: the way it unfolded. It took like another thirty five 1606 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,000 Speaker 1: minutes plus. I thought I'd signed it well, and it's like, 1607 01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:00,000 Speaker 1: but it was. It was an absolute picture of collapse 1608 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,280 Speaker 1: ups and I just think that the stadium was completely 1609 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,800 Speaker 1: caught off guard. There were people today and for good 1610 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,519 Speaker 1: reason that we're they were watching the game, but they 1611 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,679 Speaker 1: were also I just waltzed around the place out celebrating, hugging, 1612 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,640 Speaker 1: drinking beers with each other out of the concourses, and 1613 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,400 Speaker 1: I think they just thought this thing was in the 1614 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,000 Speaker 1: bag and I and for good reason, and the way 1615 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,639 Speaker 1: it ended it is could not have been a more 1616 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,840 Speaker 1: sour note to what other otherwise felt like a huge celebration. 1617 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,640 Speaker 1: What was the celebration and kind of your pregame experience 1618 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 1: and and everything like the rest of the day, I well, 1619 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 1: no because I am a raging professional and I really 1620 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,600 Speaker 1: wanted to, uh, but I also I was like, you know, 1621 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,080 Speaker 1: what what am I doing not eating meat products? Because 1622 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,759 Speaker 1: it was like seeing some of the most insanely grilled 1623 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 1: food stuff that you'll ever imagine. And just the people that, 1624 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, even if this place gets a rap for 1625 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 1: if you show up in a Chief Jersey, you will 1626 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 1: not leave alive. And Jaguars fans, which were about you know, 1627 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,439 Speaker 1: two percent of the crowd, we're floating around and they 1628 01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,720 Speaker 1: were treated fine. And I just think today really was 1629 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 1: uh an example for me of how great this fan 1630 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,040 Speaker 1: base is. And you know, talking to a bunch of 1631 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,519 Speaker 1: them for this piece I'm working on, most of them 1632 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 1: are like, yes, of course, we would never abandon them. 1633 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 1: This isn't the you know, the cults leaving in the 1634 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,840 Speaker 1: middle of the night, or the Browns uh turning into 1635 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens out of nowhere ridiculously, And it's not. It's 1636 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,679 Speaker 1: like they're they're gonna move and and and and travel 1637 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,320 Speaker 1: and go to Vegas and they kind of fit that city. 1638 01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,599 Speaker 1: But this crew here, the people that live in Oakland, 1639 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 1: I think there is no doubt, um an aura of 1640 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,479 Speaker 1: heartbreak to it. And especially at the end of the 1641 01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,600 Speaker 1: game watching people here today kind of like give like 1642 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,200 Speaker 1: low kisses to the stadium as they were leaving, and 1643 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, just not wanting to go. They just didn't 1644 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 1: want to go there out here drinking canned beers and uh, 1645 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,559 Speaker 1: you know, the cops at this point are have had enough, 1646 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,479 Speaker 1: but it's like they don't want to leave, and I 1647 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,360 Speaker 1: don't blame them. It's so I'm honestly very I feel 1648 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 1: lucky to have been here and seen it, because it's 1649 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:59,440 Speaker 1: a huge concept to even imagine the Raiders beat in California. 1650 01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't care if flipping between North count Southern California, 1651 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,600 Speaker 1: but to leave entirely is it's kind of shocking on 1652 01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:11,240 Speaker 1: an NFL level. You touched on the Browns leaving for Baltimore, 1653 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,080 Speaker 1: and you endured that as a fan. I think we've 1654 01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,360 Speaker 1: all been kind of struck by the contrast between, well 1655 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 1: those of us old enough to remember the contrast between 1656 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,280 Speaker 1: that season in Cleveland and what the love fest that's 1657 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 1: going on in Oakland this year. Do you have any 1658 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,639 Speaker 1: thoughts on that or did you personally encounter any Raiders 1659 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 1: fans who had vitriol for their team before the game. 1660 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,880 Speaker 1: Or during the game. I think the vitriol that I 1661 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,280 Speaker 1: that I caught wind of was towards uh, you know, 1662 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,760 Speaker 1: and it's not surprising, I guess towards Mark Davis because 1663 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: I think they felt like the Al Davis living in 1664 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 1: Well would never have done this, would never have made 1665 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,760 Speaker 1: this move that he you know, he's a guy. I mean, 1666 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,680 Speaker 1: he already moved to l A. Well. I mean, so 1667 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 1: he moved to l A and back. But when they 1668 01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,519 Speaker 1: when they decided that they could make more money. I 1669 01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 1: was told by a few raiders people that you know 1670 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,719 Speaker 1: Al Davis based Lee was told he could have stayed 1671 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,479 Speaker 1: in l A and made much more profit, and he 1672 01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,080 Speaker 1: decided not to. And so obviously that was a bumpy ride. 1673 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 1: But I think that the victual is pretty low. I 1674 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,200 Speaker 1: think it's disappointment, sadness, and but I think this is 1675 01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,360 Speaker 1: a fan base that's gonna it's the right fan base 1676 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 1: to do this, even though it doesn't feel right like 1677 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,519 Speaker 1: they're gonna travel. Like I there's no doubt the people 1678 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 1: that I spent time with today, they feel like they'd 1679 01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,840 Speaker 1: fit in a weekend and in Vegas without too much trouble, right. 1680 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,479 Speaker 1: But the way today played out, it just as a 1681 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:33,560 Speaker 1: reminder you can't script sports and and that fans, the 1682 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 1: reality is you can give as much as you want 1683 01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,800 Speaker 1: to the experience, and that's what you're gonna get out 1684 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 1: of it, because you might not get anything back. You 1685 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 1: might just get you might get misery on a day 1686 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 1: like this back if you're putting all your hopes on 1687 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,360 Speaker 1: the result, like I thought, like leaving a city is 1688 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:53,280 Speaker 1: pretty much the worst thing UH sports franchise can do. 1689 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,679 Speaker 1: But I was wrong. Losing a sixteen to three lead 1690 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,280 Speaker 1: to the Jaguars on the day or leaving the city 1691 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,880 Speaker 1: when John Gooden didn't go for it on fourth and 1692 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,679 Speaker 1: one at the forty nine just gutless play calling decides 1693 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,559 Speaker 1: to punt when they have twelve men on the field 1694 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,599 Speaker 1: on another fourth and one for the Jaguars is terribly 1695 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,360 Speaker 1: poorly coached and they botched the end of the situation 1696 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 1: like this has been the worst franchise in terms of 1697 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,080 Speaker 1: wins losses in the last eighteen years. They have one 1698 01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,000 Speaker 1: winning season and the fact that these fans are showing 1699 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,120 Speaker 1: up in mass like this after that eighteen season run, 1700 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 1: can you there aren't many cities that would do that, 1701 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 1: and all they get is is a kick in the 1702 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,280 Speaker 1: in the you know one on the way out the 1703 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,519 Speaker 1: Raiders at a one oh two and five record at 1704 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 1: the Oakland Coliseum when leading by ten plus points after 1705 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 1: three quarters before losing on Sunday. Mark any final thoughts, Well, 1706 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,760 Speaker 1: I'll say this, Greg, uh, that was well said by Greg, 1707 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,400 Speaker 1: and I did encounter a number of Raiders fans here. 1708 01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:50,040 Speaker 1: They just wanted to say that Greg's situational football awareness 1709 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,800 Speaker 1: is something that they are that they unbrace, they enjoy, 1710 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,920 Speaker 1: and when they make that move to Vegas, that will 1711 01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 1: still be something that they care about. Um, but I 1712 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,679 Speaker 1: would say that says that's the final thing that it's sad. 1713 01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm kind of walking out and I'm about to get 1714 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,120 Speaker 1: into this tunnel. I don't know where it goes. It 1715 01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,200 Speaker 1: goes into total darkness. I see a hillside. I don't. 1716 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,639 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have never really felt this way 1717 01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,640 Speaker 1: at a live game where there's just this sort of 1718 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,799 Speaker 1: weird sadness mixed with kind of like losing a family 1719 01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,599 Speaker 1: member situation. And I don't know, it's obviously not putting 1720 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,320 Speaker 1: it into words very well, but it's it's it's kind 1721 01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 1: of that day. I don't think anyone here because of 1722 01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,320 Speaker 1: As Greg mentioned, the final result, you can't just kind 1723 01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 1: of kiss goodbye as this beautiful thing. It's kind of 1724 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 1: tinged with a little bit of darkness, and I think 1725 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 1: that's what the move feels like too, stepping any ross sage. 1726 01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Not yet, but I mean the night is young. Mark. 1727 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,240 Speaker 1: It's good to hear you are in fine spirits, uh 1728 01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,960 Speaker 1: and alive. Please head back down the coast now and 1729 01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,559 Speaker 1: rejoin us for the next edition of Around the NFL podcast. 1730 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,160 Speaker 1: I will see you Tuesday. All right, buddy, Let's now 1731 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 1: move to Sunday Night Football. Sixteen seconds left. Here's the snap. 1732 01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 1: Hodges looks, looks, runs, Sue left, direct track, fires it 1733 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,760 Speaker 1: into the end zone. It is picked up, it is intercepted. 1734 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,720 Speaker 1: It is picked up by the Bills. That should do it. 1735 01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,559 Speaker 1: Levi Wallace comes up with the pick. His teammates surround 1736 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 1: him down in the end zone. Interception for the Bills. 1737 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,679 Speaker 1: With six seconds left, Wallace comes up with the pick. 1738 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,840 Speaker 1: The Bills are going to the postseason. John Murphy with 1739 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:28,040 Speaker 1: the call for the Bills. Radio network, Oh that Buffalo defense. 1740 01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 1: Four interceptions of Devlin Duck, Hodges two for the Great Trade, 1741 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:38,679 Speaker 1: Avious White and Levi Wallace following a Jordan Jordan Ployer 1742 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 1: pick in the fourth quarter and successive tries that close 1743 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:46,040 Speaker 1: it out to ten. The Bills are tenanted for and 1744 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 1: they're going to the dance for the second time in 1745 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 1: twenty years. It'll be the second time in three years, 1746 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,720 Speaker 1: depending on how you want to look any ways to 1747 01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,360 Speaker 1: look at it. Sean McDermott, nice job, man, six and one. 1748 01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,880 Speaker 1: The Bills are on the road this year and they 1749 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 1: quiet a Steelers team that really, you know, entered this 1750 01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,639 Speaker 1: Action West looking like, uh, one of the hottest teams 1751 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,360 Speaker 1: in football. But there was always that question, was Duck 1752 01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,639 Speaker 1: Hodges in a big spot against this type of defense 1753 01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,599 Speaker 1: couldn't go badly? It went very badly. Well, I think 1754 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,360 Speaker 1: when we looked at this game, it's no surprise how 1755 01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 1: it played out. We didn't trust either quarterback against either 1756 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,360 Speaker 1: of these defenses, and we saw the Steelers limitations in 1757 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,680 Speaker 1: the passing game. I know their fans don't want to 1758 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,200 Speaker 1: hear this, but it's already been a successful season for 1759 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,560 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh being in control the number six seed with a 1760 01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,560 Speaker 1: four string undrafted rookie at quarterback and a slew of 1761 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:40,439 Speaker 1: injuries at the skill positions on offense. They've gone about 1762 01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,280 Speaker 1: as far as a quarterback like Duck Hodges can take them. Well, 1763 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,160 Speaker 1: they have two big games coming up, and if they 1764 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,160 Speaker 1: win those two games, uh, and we'll see if the 1765 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,000 Speaker 1: Ravens play their starters in week seventeen, they're going to 1766 01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So I I don't think they'll look at 1767 01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,760 Speaker 1: this as some lost cause. But credit needs to go 1768 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,760 Speaker 1: to the Bills for what I think was the best 1769 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,680 Speaker 1: moment since two thousand. I mean since I don't know, 1770 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,719 Speaker 1: is this their biggest way than twenty years? Because making 1771 01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs because Andy Dalton beat two beats an opponent 1772 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,160 Speaker 1: for you, and you sneak in and that's fun and 1773 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,320 Speaker 1: you got the monkey off your back. But this is 1774 01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,800 Speaker 1: Sunday night football. This is earning your way. This is 1775 01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 1: ten and four, and it's doing it the kind of 1776 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,559 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott way with a real team that I don't 1777 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,599 Speaker 1: think UM has lucked its way into ten and four. 1778 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,400 Speaker 1: The schedules obviously helped, But tonight they had the better 1779 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,479 Speaker 1: running game and they had the better defense. I mean, 1780 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:32,960 Speaker 1: their defense made bigger plays. They had nine tackles for 1781 01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,320 Speaker 1: loss whereas I think the Steelers had five. They had 1782 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,800 Speaker 1: more quarterback hits, they had the interceptions, they were the 1783 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,640 Speaker 1: big play defense. I think I think I predicted on 1784 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:44,479 Speaker 1: Thursday Show this game would end seventeen and like we 1785 01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,320 Speaker 1: were saying, this is this was how it was gonna 1786 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:47,960 Speaker 1: be and it was gonna come down to I thought, 1787 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,240 Speaker 1: who was the quarterback that kind of killed their team? 1788 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,800 Speaker 1: And Uh, while no one is going to be throwing 1789 01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,320 Speaker 1: bouquets at the feet of Josh Allen, you will give 1790 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,880 Speaker 1: him credit for making the big throw. Tyler Croft was 1791 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,720 Speaker 1: targeted once in this game, and it came in a 1792 01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:05,880 Speaker 1: huge spot on third down. There was a uh ten 1793 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,920 Speaker 1: to tend game and the Bills their previous possession of 1794 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 1: scoring chance. They had first and goal and didn't even 1795 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,160 Speaker 1: let Alan throw the ball. They ran the ball once. 1796 01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,080 Speaker 1: They intended a trick play with Frank Gore that didn't work, 1797 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,400 Speaker 1: leading to another loss on a run that ran it 1798 01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,479 Speaker 1: on third end goal for nothing, a loss of yards, 1799 01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,120 Speaker 1: settled for the field goal, and it made you think, God, 1800 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,040 Speaker 1: they're never gonna let Josh Allen try to win a 1801 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,200 Speaker 1: game in this big stage. But they did let him 1802 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,760 Speaker 1: run that play, and credit to the Bills because it 1803 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,599 Speaker 1: paid off. Alan hits Croft. Uh on the right side 1804 01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,400 Speaker 1: of the end zone and that was the winning score. 1805 01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,760 Speaker 1: That was an all passing drive, essentially on a day 1806 01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,760 Speaker 1: where they leaned on the run. That touchdown drive was 1807 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,720 Speaker 1: on Alan's arm and he hit a deep play down 1808 01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,599 Speaker 1: the field to John Brown. And they've barely hit those 1809 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,160 Speaker 1: plays this year, but they've had a couple over the 1810 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,560 Speaker 1: last two weeks. Josh Allen also had a rushing touchdown 1811 01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:00,360 Speaker 1: in this game, set up by an incredible Devin Singletary run, 1812 01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:02,880 Speaker 1: and to me that that's the story here. They did 1813 01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:06,400 Speaker 1: have more juice. I mean Singletary, although he had fumbles 1814 01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,040 Speaker 1: in this game, he had more juice than any Pittsburgh 1815 01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,840 Speaker 1: running back. And Josh Allen, even if it wasn't perfect, 1816 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 1: certainly had a lot more juice than Duck Hodges to 1817 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:17,479 Speaker 1: dave Is White is the All Pro cornerback opposite Stefine 1818 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 1: Gilmore on my list. Smokey Brown already as a career 1819 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,839 Speaker 1: high and receiving yards this year. He's been a great signing. 1820 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,640 Speaker 1: And Jordan Phillips, who the Bills I believe picked up 1821 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,560 Speaker 1: all the waivers from the Dolphins last year after a 1822 01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,559 Speaker 1: disciplinary measure. Uh is up the nine and a half 1823 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,719 Speaker 1: sacks on the year for a defensive tackle. We should 1824 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,160 Speaker 1: give Brian Dable some love. I mean, they he's their 1825 01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,559 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for the Bills, and they throw a lot 1826 01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,960 Speaker 1: of looks at you, and they on both their touchdown drives, 1827 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,920 Speaker 1: they did a lot of creative things formationally. They went 1828 01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,840 Speaker 1: for a fourth and six early in the game and 1829 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 1: converted it with set up some points, so they were 1830 01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,640 Speaker 1: aggressive in spot. He's done a good job just kind 1831 01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,400 Speaker 1: of keeping defenses off balance with with with just what 1832 01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,880 Speaker 1: a a weird offense. But it affect enough the Bills. 1833 01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:04,120 Speaker 1: Don't blink. They haven't always won these games against the 1834 01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,679 Speaker 1: upper teams in the n FC. In fact, we're going 1835 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:08,240 Speaker 1: into this game we talked about it was like, go 1836 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,080 Speaker 1: get that big win, and I count this one is 1837 01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,560 Speaker 1: a big win, beating the eight and five Steelers in 1838 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,080 Speaker 1: their building in prime time, in front of Al, Chris 1839 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 1: and Michelle. But I also I'll say this one other 1840 01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,840 Speaker 1: takeaway from the game. It's a lot of Avio mcnifico 1841 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,040 Speaker 1: um and you know, right off, Duck Hodges off this game. 1842 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,760 Speaker 1: But I feel like this gave us the ceiling of 1843 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers that their defense and you know there's certain players, 1844 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,640 Speaker 1: and maybe the game goes a different way t J. 1845 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,240 Speaker 1: Watt with that punch out attempt if he hits Josh 1846 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,519 Speaker 1: Allen's ball instead of like his thigh or whatever. He 1847 01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:39,479 Speaker 1: ended up. Yea, they fumbled on the ten. They fumbled 1848 01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:43,240 Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line to close the first I 1849 01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,280 Speaker 1: mean they maybe in and if the Steelers go on 1850 01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,840 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, they can win some games just 1851 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,920 Speaker 1: because of the defense and and Hodge Hodges and company 1852 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,200 Speaker 1: making a couple of plays. But to me, I feel 1853 01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,080 Speaker 1: like this is kind of how their season will eventually 1854 01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,639 Speaker 1: end as well, where they'll be in a close game 1855 01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,880 Speaker 1: and they'll need their team to make a big playing offense, 1856 01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:02,880 Speaker 1: and it's just not gonna be there for him. It 1857 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,880 Speaker 1: felt hopeless in those last two possessions because Hodges just 1858 01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,439 Speaker 1: quite frankly, seemed a little in overhead. Well. I think 1859 01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,439 Speaker 1: that even the Steelers would acknowledge that Duck Hodges ceiling 1860 01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,960 Speaker 1: in the future, is probably a backup quarterback. I mean, 1861 01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,280 Speaker 1: he just doesn't have the physical talent he saw in 1862 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,719 Speaker 1: that last store that was intercepted. He can't throw against 1863 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,519 Speaker 1: the grain moving to his left and still have enough 1864 01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,320 Speaker 1: arm strength to get the ball in a position whereas 1865 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,360 Speaker 1: receiver can make a play on it and it sets 1866 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 1: up on Saturday night Saturday afternoon rather Bills Patriots quite 1867 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,720 Speaker 1: a triple header on NFL Network, not just being a 1868 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,559 Speaker 1: company man. I can't they lucked out. They really did. 1869 01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,760 Speaker 1: Bucks Texans early is a meaningful game versus a hot, 1870 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,280 Speaker 1: hot team versus Texans. Then you've got the Bills Patriots 1871 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,920 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, you have the Rams forty, which matters 1872 01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:48,400 Speaker 1: at night, but the Bills, they've really lucked out. Those 1873 01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,960 Speaker 1: are three of the best games of the week. And 1874 01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,920 Speaker 1: the Pats game is so interesting because this Patriots offense 1875 01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,160 Speaker 1: against the Bills. We will get into it during the week. 1876 01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:01,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to point out one tiebreaker um oddity though, 1877 01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,640 Speaker 1: which takes not not a lot of juice, but it 1878 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:07,640 Speaker 1: does change it is that calculated time the Patriots are 1879 01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,840 Speaker 1: gonna win the a f C East if they beat 1880 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:14,040 Speaker 1: the Dolphins in week seventeen, no matter what happens next 1881 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,320 Speaker 1: week against the Bills, because why does it always work 1882 01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,559 Speaker 1: out this common opponents tiebreak? So the Bills could win 1883 01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,680 Speaker 1: that game and still not get it, but it's a 1884 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,640 Speaker 1: still a huge game. Saying the Bills could beat the 1885 01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:27,040 Speaker 1: Steelers in Pittsburgh. They could go to Foxborough and beat 1886 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,880 Speaker 1: the Bills next week, Patriots the Patriots next week. They 1887 01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:33,760 Speaker 1: can Week seventeen, close out with another win against Go 1888 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,799 Speaker 1: twelve and four and not be the A c S champion. 1889 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,639 Speaker 1: That is possible. And then I told Greg that's so frustrating. 1890 01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:41,480 Speaker 1: I feel like this always works out with the tiebreakers 1891 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,760 Speaker 1: and the Patriots, and then Greg goes not in two 1892 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:47,280 Speaker 1: thousand and two, it didn't like years ago. Yeah I 1893 01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:51,360 Speaker 1: was in college, Greg, Yeah, forty in April. Greg, I'll 1894 01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,720 Speaker 1: give you a lot. That's your example. I'll give you 1895 01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,920 Speaker 1: a lollipop if you can name the head coach in 1896 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback the last time the Bills hit a ten 1897 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:04,320 Speaker 1: win season. Uh Wade Phillips now and uh Frank Greig. 1898 01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:10,160 Speaker 1: Doug Flutty who is now fifty seven years old, was 1899 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback the last time the Bills hit a ten 1900 01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:16,479 Speaker 1: win season. So congratulations to our buddy Zack behind the 1901 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:22,800 Speaker 1: glass Zack Zach Sailey of course, and big say the 1902 01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:26,759 Speaker 1: biggest Bills fan we know, Patrick, member of the Shield 1903 01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:31,200 Speaker 1: Champions softball squad. Are good buddy, Colations. Congratulations to you guys, 1904 01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,920 Speaker 1: you're you're playing in the dance You're you're going dancing, 1905 01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,519 Speaker 1: and and Greg any other playoff tabulations before we sign 1906 01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,080 Speaker 1: off that people might want to know. As we take 1907 01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:41,720 Speaker 1: a look at the playoff picture, you can check it out, 1908 01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,280 Speaker 1: by the way, the NFL dot com slash playoff picture, 1909 01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,200 Speaker 1: which gives a nice snapshot of where we're at. Well, 1910 01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers can still get in with two more wins, 1911 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,840 Speaker 1: but that loss certainly should give a little bounce to 1912 01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:57,799 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, helps their chances and uh, the Chiefs 1913 01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,920 Speaker 1: trying to get that by. Even if if the Bills 1914 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,439 Speaker 1: did beat the Patriots, that would open up to buy 1915 01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,439 Speaker 1: which to me is absolutely vital for both of those teams, 1916 01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:08,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs and put at the bottom of the A f C. 1917 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,479 Speaker 1: Now the Steelers are eight and six, They're at Jets 1918 01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,360 Speaker 1: and then at Ravens. You gotta win that game against 1919 01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,760 Speaker 1: the Jets, take take any drama out of the proceedings. 1920 01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,720 Speaker 1: If they somehow lost next week and fall to eight 1921 01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,720 Speaker 1: and seven, that opens the door up, it does, uh 1922 01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:25,400 Speaker 1: for damn. Even the Browns are not eliminated, right if 1923 01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,160 Speaker 1: if they somehow crumble, But we're not gonna talk about that. 1924 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,200 Speaker 1: We're getting too crazy with the calculator. The Bills Browns 1925 01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,120 Speaker 1: aren't eliminated. I think the Browns were eliminated tonight. Are 1926 01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:37,719 Speaker 1: they done? I think they were out with the Steelers loss. Yes, okay, 1927 01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:39,640 Speaker 1: well that's good. So you have the So it's the 1928 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:43,040 Speaker 1: Steelers and the second place team in the a f 1929 01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:47,040 Speaker 1: C South in the wild card, the Bills claiming that 1930 01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,360 Speaker 1: it would be either the Bills or the Patriots most 1931 01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:51,720 Speaker 1: likely the Bills on the five seed, and then either 1932 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,479 Speaker 1: Steelers or tighten Slash Texans in the six and then 1933 01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 1: the Browns are out barring a tie. So I knew 1934 01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,720 Speaker 1: there was a confusion, but their sential. And then in 1935 01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,040 Speaker 1: the NFC we've got the Seahawks now as the number 1936 01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,519 Speaker 1: one seed. The Packers still locked in at number two. 1937 01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,880 Speaker 1: But the Vikings are the interesting team here. They are 1938 01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:14,680 Speaker 1: tenant four and they have the Packers up next on 1939 01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,479 Speaker 1: the schedule. They need to lose both games and the 1940 01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,759 Speaker 1: Rams need to win both their games otherwise the Vikings 1941 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,759 Speaker 1: will make the playoffs, as will be the second place 1942 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,759 Speaker 1: team in the NFC West, either forty or the Seahawks. 1943 01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,880 Speaker 1: I think the NFCS it's almost simple to explain, which 1944 01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,560 Speaker 1: is that the Cowboys Eagles for that one spot, and 1945 01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,360 Speaker 1: the other five seeds are all up for grabs. You 1946 01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:39,920 Speaker 1: know one through five is open, so yes, you can 1947 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,719 Speaker 1: figure out the different routes to it. But Seahawks, Packers, 1948 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,240 Speaker 1: Vikings forty nine or Saints. I know the Vikings haven't 1949 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,360 Speaker 1: clinched yet, but they're almost definitely in those five seeds. 1950 01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,160 Speaker 1: Could you shake them up and do it a lot 1951 01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,080 Speaker 1: of different ways? If I'm a Saints fan, I'm feeling 1952 01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:55,000 Speaker 1: a little better that maybe they can sneak into that 1953 01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,880 Speaker 1: by I'm gonna test your calculator right now, Greg, Can 1954 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,719 Speaker 1: the Vikings are can things be true? Can the Vikings 1955 01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:07,320 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs entirely? Can they win the one seed? Well, 1956 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:11,280 Speaker 1: they certainly can miss this. Can they get the one seed? Still? 1957 01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,439 Speaker 1: Can they finish twelve and four and get that one seed? 1958 01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:18,120 Speaker 1: The calculators cramming, it's cranking. I don't have that. I 1959 01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,720 Speaker 1: don't have that right now? Has the tiebreak in the 1960 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:25,200 Speaker 1: scenarios between them? And like the seat tough questions? One 1961 01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,200 Speaker 1: was a tough one. I wanted to see how much 1962 01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:31,080 Speaker 1: of a handle you had? Not all softballs here. Gregg's 1963 01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,280 Speaker 1: had just exploded. So now it's now it's a two 1964 01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:39,160 Speaker 1: hander in West. All right, there you go. It's gonna 1965 01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,040 Speaker 1: be fun. And we have two Sundays left in the 1966 01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,120 Speaker 1: regular season, and you know we'll be here and I'm 1967 01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:48,080 Speaker 1: looking forward to that triple header. I can sniff the playoffs. 1968 01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,960 Speaker 1: We're almost here. Keith and dev are coming into the 1969 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,040 Speaker 1: town on Wednesday, and you know Tito's is coming out 1970 01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:54,880 Speaker 1: to watch them football. And said, oh yeah, you know 1971 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:58,000 Speaker 1: Tito doesn't get to come out anymore and play. Tito 1972 01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,639 Speaker 1: and his friend Soda. Well the squeeze, Mr Lemon Tard 1973 01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:05,040 Speaker 1: being a daddy. Yeah, we're here cranking getting the paycheck. Yeah, 1974 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,960 Speaker 1: not on Saturday. Saturday is gonna be a fun day. 1975 01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,439 Speaker 1: That'd be fun with the old man. All right, I'm 1976 01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,920 Speaker 1: happy to watch a Patriots game without you. Chuck ahead, 1977 01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,160 Speaker 1: all right, let's go. This is Dan hands Is signing 1978 01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 1: off for Quiet Storm, and I've sent you the mailman, 1979 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:26,519 Speaker 1: the old Boss, Ricky Hollywood, Ryan Tara Zack on the 1980 01:40:26,600 --> 01:41:09,640 Speaker 1: top of the world until Tuesday. S