1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 2: Robin Hood did have a third quarter profited, beating it 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: income up two hundred and seventy one percent to five 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty six million. Crypto revenue, however, did fall 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: short of estimates. That was even though it chumped three 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: hundred percent, So the margat was expecting quite a bit there, 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: But robin Hood shares a little bit softer after ours. 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: Let's get more. Now, bring in Bloomberg Tech co anchor 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: Ed Ludlow in San Francisco. 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: Ed, Yeah, thank you, team, and believe it or not, 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: you find me downtown at an in person earning score 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: of all things, where not just the institutional sell side participates, 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: but the institutional byside, the retail buyside, and robin Hood's customers. 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: They all got to post questions to Vlad Tenev, Robinhood CEO. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 4: There's a lot of. 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: Emphasis on October strong third quarter, got that October October October. 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: So I think the best place to start is take 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: us through the lens of your customers what was happening, 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: and I'll tell you that the underlying trends, the behaviors 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: that you're saying. 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, thank you for being here 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: with us in person to celebrate retail investors being a 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: big part of the financial markets. October has been a 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: continued strong month, and then you notice Q three was 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: particularly strong, record net deposits, record trading revenues, revenues across 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: the board, prediction markets have also been on fire. So 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: what you're seeing is continued sustained engagement powered by the 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Robinhood flywheel, more customers, deeper engagement, more Gold subscribers bringing 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: more assets, and the trading volumes have continued to increase 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: as well. So it's just been strong across the board. 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: I would say there's not one area that's particular outlier, 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: but continued strength across the board. 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: Markets are a tailwind and head right. 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: And so my question is what is and where is 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: the natural embedded hedge. If markets ton on you change direction, 36 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: what happens. 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: It's a good question, and we try not to get 38 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: so hung up on output metrics like trading volumes, because 39 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: trading volumes, as we've seen in the past, do tend 40 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: to fluctuate with market activity. That said, what we look 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: at is our market share, and we know that. You know, 42 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: even though trading volumes can go with markets and can 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: go up and down long term or huge beneficiaries of 44 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: both the growth in the US economy and also the 45 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: generational wealth transfer where hundreds north of one hundred trillion 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: of assets and wealth is going to be handed down 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: from older generations to younger generations. These younger generations are 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: folks that are digitally native, tech savvy. They don't particularly 49 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: really want to do their finances at brick and mortar 50 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: institutions in person, and they really values or experience and cost. 51 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: And so I think we track our market share, which 52 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: has been growing pretty much across the board, across every asset. 53 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: We're now up to a third of a trillion in 54 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: assets held at robin Hood, which has been extraordinary in 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: terms of growth as well. And then there's the secular 56 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: tailwinds of you know, the US economy still remains the 57 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: hotbed of innovation. It's where it's the epicenter of AI 58 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: electric vehicles innovation, and I think young people are going 59 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: to be the generation inheriting all of this wealth. 60 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: So Robin at the center. 61 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: Because of young people in generation that's driving what you're 62 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: seeing in prediction markets. I don't want to recount the 63 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: data too much they but just in a month, folk 64 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: tell you contracts and predictions have it clipped what you 65 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: did in. 66 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: The entire thad quota. 67 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: So maybe talking about some of the underlying trends and 68 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: activity would give us a better understanding of who's driving 69 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: it and what's happening. 70 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Ed. 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: I think the interesting thing about prediction markets is it 72 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: rounds out the offering in sort of like completes the 73 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: time at which Robinhood customers can continue to engage with 74 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: the platform. For a while, we were offering predominantly US equities, 75 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: which was very much a US East Coast working hours 76 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: type of event. Markets are open, you know, nine to 77 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: four East Coast hours, and then we've expanded that over 78 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: time with us introducing twenty four hour market, we've added 79 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: crypto and now prediction markets. A lot of the events, 80 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: particularly in sports, are happening nights and weekends, so Robinhood 81 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: is becoming increasingly a twenty four to seven platform where 82 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: you can trade and invest global markets at all times 83 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: of the day. And I think our customers do tend 84 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: to be digitally native and quite savvy. That tends to 85 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: lean younger, but we also have customers that are in 86 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: their seventies and eighties, and as long as you're comfortable 87 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: doing your finances on a mobile device and you want 88 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: to be at the frontier of technology, I think it's 89 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 1: something that transcends just young people. Of course, we always 90 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: want to be relevant to the next generation. But Robinhood, 91 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: I feel like you should be at a disadvantage if 92 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: you're using any other platform. 93 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: I think that's increasing. 94 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: The competition is sleeping on this a little bit right 95 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 3: that you think you can build the financial super app 96 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: for an entire family, multiple generations, to participate in different 97 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: products and categories. 98 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: Why have you got an advantage in going off to that. 99 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Well, I think that nobody has our combination of product 100 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: depth and product velocity. So we have a lot of products. 101 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: We still have a huge amount left to build, but 102 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: if you think about what we offer now, I think 103 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: we have the best banking product out on the market 104 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: that's being rolled out. I think we have the best 105 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: credit card with three percent cash back on all categories 106 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: that just passed half a million card holders and eight 107 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: billion and annualized spend. We've always been strong across investing 108 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: in trading and now retirement as well. You know, twenty 109 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: five billion of assets that customers are entrusting with us 110 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: in retirement accounts at is a big number, and this 111 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: is like very serious, long term money. I think we 112 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: have the best digital advisor with Robinhood Strategies. Where every 113 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: other advisor charges you more the more money you have 114 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: on the platform. Robinhood Strategies inverts that model, and once 115 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: you get to one hundred thousand managed, everything above that 116 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: has no management feed. So the incentive is actually to 117 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: grow with us, and we want to make it a 118 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: no brainer. 119 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: To have all of your assets under Robinhood. 120 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: This is very much tuget at the individual. You have 121 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: a ten year plan where within ten years you want 122 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: more than half of revenue to come from the institutional 123 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: side and from international markets, not just the United States. 124 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: So what's the roadmap to get there? 125 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that somewhat paradoxically. You might 126 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: not expect this, but that road mask it is paradoxical. Well, 127 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: the roadmap is really continuing to build for retail for 128 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: the time being, because when we talk to our institutional 129 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: potential customers actually a lot of them are in this 130 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: room and they've come up and they said, we would 131 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: love to use, you guys for an institutional offering. You know, 132 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: they might be using a legacy provider where they can't 133 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: trade twenty four to five, or they're not getting good 134 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: stock loan rates, or the margin rates are not good. 135 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: And pretty much nobody has a unified offering between crypto 136 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: and traditional assets, which I think is being increasingly valuable. 137 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: So the things that we're offering to retail, rock bottom 138 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: margin rate's, great user experience twenty four are access to 139 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: all markets are things that institutional wants as well. And 140 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: I think for the time being, we're in this great position. 141 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: We have so much to do on retail that we 142 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: want to stay very focused for that. But we have 143 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: been building out our institutional business with bitstamp, which is 144 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: now you know, was the tenth business line to get 145 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: to above one hundred million in annualized revenue, Prediction Markets 146 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: being the eleventh. So I think before long you'll see 147 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: that really continue to accelerate and become a bigger chunk 148 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: of what we're offering. 149 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: Lat Tenef is the Robin Hood CEO, and is he 150 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: just pointed to prediction markets also eight one hundred millionized 151 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 3: eight one hundred million annualized revenue and I think run 152 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: rate wise three hundred million. 153 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: A lot of focus on that right now,