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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Select by Joe and now your hosts Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, and Brian brought us well. The Draft Show

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Speaker 1: once again kicks off for the final night in Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I'm sad to say that is our final

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Speaker 1: of this show, and myself will cover the game. But

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Speaker 1: tonight we have a special guest. Two special guests, matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, two gentlemen that have spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: hours with me already working on this NFL draft studying tape.

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Speaker 1: Every night we can sharing ideas, blaming each other, a

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Speaker 1: lot of arguments and a lot of agreements. But tonight

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Speaker 1: about this NFL Draft and what they've seen from the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Been here all week and the gentleman I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about is Jeff Kavanaugh from one oh five three

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Speaker 1: The Fan and Kevin Turner from one oh five three

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Speaker 1: The Fan, my two scouting buddies. Gentlemen, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Draft Show. Thank you. It's an on earned privilege. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: watching and listening to the Draft Show and it'll be

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Speaker 1: fun to be a part of it now. You were

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Speaker 1: did from the Combine last year, so your Draft show

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Speaker 1: veteran kat, new experience for you here today. Yeah, first

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Speaker 1: time to come to the Senior Bowl and looking forward

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Speaker 1: to getting out to the Combine and and filling in

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Speaker 1: for Dane for this next hour. Yea, that's a tall task. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Dane Bugler headed on home to hang out with

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Speaker 1: for the next hour, we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about really, I'm gonna get We've had our opinions about

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Speaker 1: how we've seen this Senior Bowl unfold, and I'm interested

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Speaker 1: it and like I like I alluded to earlier, though

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Speaker 1: you guys watched the tape with me. We're about one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen players in goals to get to about

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Speaker 1: wanna ask you first, Jeff, your impressions though, of what

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Speaker 1: something anything different about the Senior Bowl, And as far

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Speaker 1: You watch him playing, it's like, yeah, that's the same

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Speaker 1: And I thought on Tuesday, for both practices, on both squads,

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Speaker 1: Go find it, Go find it. Okay, how about this

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Speaker 1: was Austin Johnson. Right. So I think there's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a recency bias, at least for me from

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Speaker 1: today where I didn't see what I hope to see

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Speaker 1: from him. Yeah, I was just a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: was thinking, this guy's gonna come and light them up.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get put violent. You're killing You're

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Speaker 1: killing this guy for like no, no, no, no, he'll

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Speaker 1: do you know what? All right? Then I will I

435
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Speaker 1: thought it wasn't I agree that it wasn't consistent, but

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Speaker 1: he flashed quite at Okay, how many times? And let's

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Speaker 1: put the Dallas Cowboy hats on here. We all come

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Speaker 1: to the Dallas carrying one. Yeah, we all cover to

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Okay with him or you? Okay with

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Speaker 1: with Nick Hayden. I'll take Johnson, I'll take Johnson. I'll

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Speaker 1: take Johnson, Okay, and then okay, you're gonna be okay,

442
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Speaker 1: he didn't rush the passer real well, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go, oh well, damn broad us. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what he knew, what he was talking about. If

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Speaker 1: you're getting any pass rush from Austin Johnson, it's more

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Speaker 1: than a case. But see, that's what I'm saying. We

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Speaker 1: saw it on the tape, and we keep going back

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Speaker 1: to these one techniques. It's funny, but it seems like

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Speaker 1: to me, it seems like much of them. It seems

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Speaker 1: like to me every I guess we got to figure

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Speaker 1: out who the fourth overall pick is gonna be. But

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Speaker 1: everybody's trying to figure out what that thirty four is

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Speaker 1: gonna be. Yeah, that's gonna be. That's gonna be an

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Speaker 1: interesting pick. Yeah, Can I name a one technique that

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to talk about thirty four or

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Speaker 1: what round or anything. It's just a guy I didn't

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Speaker 1: know yet. And then I watched him out here and

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's time to watch tape DJ Reader,

459
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Speaker 1: the guy from Clemson. That is a guy that you know.

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Speaker 1: Even in watching the agility drills, you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: guy who I don't have what he weighed in at,

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Speaker 1: but he's a he's a three twenty five thirty pound guy.

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Speaker 1: And you watched him go through those drills and you

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Speaker 1: watched him guy stuff, and that guy, that guy moved

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Speaker 1: around really well. So I don't I don't know round

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Speaker 1: or anything yet, but just in terms of a guy

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Speaker 1: that I didn't know yet, that fly for me, that's

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Speaker 1: one of us six three three forty and did not

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Speaker 1: move like he was three fourty. That's bigger than Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah's what yeah? Yeah? And and and and a very

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Speaker 1: good athlete. Geez Okay. It would be really easy for

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Speaker 1: me to talk about Noah Spence and I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about like no, no, and okay, let me let

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Speaker 1: me And this is this is really funny because I'm

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Speaker 1: glad we have Jeff on tonight for this, for this reason,

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Speaker 1: because nobody locks in on on the four more than you.

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Speaker 1: Nobody locks in on the fourth pick more than you.

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Speaker 1: Four the Cowboys, and you you now seemed to you're

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Speaker 1: you're kind of beating the drum that if everything were

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Speaker 1: to check out with Noah Spence, that you would consider

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Speaker 1: him at four. I would. I don't know why everybody's

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Speaker 1: looking at me crazy. I mean, we're talking about the best.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the base pass rusher in chocolate chip,

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Speaker 1: chocolate chip, what do you got? I like, Uh, Rocky Road,

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Speaker 1: Rocky Road, I got it. It's late January. Give me

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Speaker 1: some time to figure this out. As I'm well, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the pick for all the might as

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Speaker 1: well throw all the names. He's throwing it out there

489
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Speaker 1: is spitched, and I think he is the best pass rushing.

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Speaker 1: If people are asking me about Bosa, don't compare them

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Speaker 1: as pass rushing. I'm not look at the camera. Don't

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Speaker 1: do that. Don't compare them like Joey Bosa is a

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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy some odd pound guy that wins

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Speaker 1: with technique and power. Yeah he's a good athlete. Yeah

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Speaker 1: he's gonna move guys around. And he can get into

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Speaker 1: the backfield. Nobody turns the corner like this guy. Yeah, Noah,

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Speaker 1: Spence turns the corner like we watched von Miller do

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Speaker 1: for the Broncos. Now, if that means because he came

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Speaker 1: in here at two fifty something, if that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: his weight, then it may mean that you would take

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Speaker 1: it more seriously if you're a three four team that

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Speaker 1: wants him to come off the edge. But to dismiss

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Speaker 1: the guy who's clearly the best pass rusher in this

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Speaker 1: draft in a league where pass rushing is the most

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Speaker 1: important thing your defense, does I think that would be

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Speaker 1: crazy case dismiss Here's the problem. No one is dismissing

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Speaker 1: that idea. Okay, so don't start that, Okay, don't twist words.

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Speaker 1: No one's everybody would say, let Jeff talk about Spence

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Speaker 1: because he's got one that's crazy idea. You're the one

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Speaker 1: that's You're you're driving the train now on this. Can

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Speaker 1: you tell this as a conversation that has happened off

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Speaker 1: the air, you know, like this is not six two five,

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Speaker 1: two fifty four your numbers. Here's the thing I want

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Speaker 1: to say this require this is about what to me

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Speaker 1: it's about and Jeff had the best idea ever is

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Speaker 1: we need to go back and find tape of him

517
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Speaker 1: dominating at Ohio State because my problem for three days

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Speaker 1: he was beating le Raven Clark from Texas Tech. You

519
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Speaker 1: love that reach. He was beating Spencer Drango from Baylor

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Speaker 1: le Raven Clark from Texas Tech. Okay, those are the

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Speaker 1: primary two guys. He was good schools and the good

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Speaker 1: academic schools outside these borders, of course, but those are

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Speaker 1: two players who he will dominate nine times out of

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Speaker 1: ten every time in college. At Easterday at Eastern Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: he had to go beat Kentucky was the best school

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Speaker 1: they played, and in North Carolina State and North Carolina State, Right,

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Speaker 1: Jeff had the best idea. We need to go back

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Speaker 1: and watch him play from two years ago when he

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Speaker 1: was an All Big Ten player, and then I think

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Speaker 1: I'll start to then we'll talk about your ex toc

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Speaker 1: issues and all the all the problems we'll have those,

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Speaker 1: we'll have those, and we'll get a chance to talk

533
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Speaker 1: to him. We'll get a chance to have those interviews.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. Yeah, But like I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: say right now, he's number four without I think he

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Speaker 1: will back, he would consider, he would consider. I think

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Speaker 1: he'd do it. I'm just gonna go and who's there,

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Speaker 1: Who's gone? One? Two? Three? Wait a minute, now, well,

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Speaker 1: I take my quarterback. Okay, he's gone, I take my quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Golf is gone. Treadwell or Spence or Tunsil, another guy,

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Speaker 1: Jack or Spen, Ramsey or Jack. Listen, there's five names

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Speaker 1: you gotta I'm gonna have to write him down. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna think about Okay, I'll tell you what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break right now. Yeah, fench writer,

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Speaker 1: I thought I could draw him off sides. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: foot one. But Braxton does have that. You watched him

639
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: when they were on the red zone stuff today and

640
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: doing one on one right, and one of the best

641
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: things he has is an ability to break you down

642
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: and then when he accelerates, you can't. I was talking

643
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 1: to Scott Lenahan after practice and asked him about that,

644
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: and he says, you know what, you gotta give him

645
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: credit one and give whoever's coaching him at Ohio State

646
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for real, because they we talk

647
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: about learning curves and you're and he does not look

648
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: like a quarterback or just an athlete playing wide receiver,

649
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: and that's what Lenahan was talking about. Lenahan saying, hey,

650
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: wherever coached him at Ohio State got him ready to

651
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: do this, and he goes, who Hey, hats off to

652
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: that guy or that staff for able to make that happen.

653
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: Not an expert on the Ohio State coaching staff, but

654
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: is Verbisky. Does he have a hand in that, which

655
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: would make sense because Brian Robisky, Yeah, I know, yeah,

656
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: his dad just got a job at his dad just

657
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: got a job as the offensive coordinator. I want to say,

658
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: I can't remember where he guys. I'm looking up all

659
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: these things as we speak here, but yeah, you know,

660
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: to me, that's the he's talking about. He's talking about

661
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: much smaller players, quicker players. We didn't see a lot of.

662
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: And I don't want to pretend that the quarterback play

663
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: out here was outstanding. I don't know how many opportunities

664
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: we've seen for him to go climb the ladder and

665
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: do a does Bryant catch on somebody? But the way

666
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 1: that we've seen him create separation is instant, instant explosiveness

667
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: and quickness. That's theay Randall Cobb used to create separation,

668
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: used to Pakarna, right, Yeah, well no, no, not at all.

669
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: But I heard someone It wasn't It wasn't me, So

670
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm not taking credit for this, but someone throughout the

671
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: name Percy Harvin. And I guess I think he's a

672
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: better I think he's a better receiver. It's not as fast, no,

673
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: but I think he's a better I think he's got

674
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: a better skill set. Let's wait till he runs the forty.

675
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: When Braxton turns a four to three. Yeah, wearing shorts,

676
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: you really might If he's faster than Percy Harvin, more

677
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: power to him. Zack Smith is the receiver's coach at

678
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. So Zach Smith is the man responsible

679
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: for getting u forgetting him, getting him ready to play.

680
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: So give him a hats off to our tip of

681
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: the cap. Too good for you, coach, Yeah, well done, Bobby.

682
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: Bobby wants a prediction for an under the radar player

683
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: who you think will make an impact in the actual

684
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl in the game. Take it to the game,

685
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, take it to the game. I like that.

686
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: How about DeAndre Washington, the Texas technical? You would go there,

687
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't you like what we saw from him today? I

688
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: liked watching him in the past game and in the

689
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: run game. I think that's a dude that can make

690
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: an impact on this game. I'll do you one more.

691
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: We'll go Tyler Irvin on the other squad. Oh there

692
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: you go. Nice job, Okay, very nice. You want to

693
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: go smaller and quicker? Okay, all right, keep an eye

694
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: on Jordan Hayton, wide receiver from UCLA. They're playing him

695
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys coaches are playing him on the outside. They're

696
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: playing him in the slot. I think they've got some ideas.

697
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: There was something you should have tweeted about today from

698
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: practice at the North Bunch did Who's that? They ran

699
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: a reverse? So, yeah, didn't You didn't want to You

700
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: didn't want to get into that, Okay, I don't need

701
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: to get into all that, you know, not trying to

702
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: give away trained secrets here. Random name Darrell Adams tight

703
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: ends South Carolina South? Do you know what? You know? What?

704
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Hatch a nice catches today And I saw him blocking

705
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: really well today before. Yeah, I watched he ran some

706
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: nice routes. Yeah, but he can. He's one of those

707
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: guys who go get it. I like. I like that guy,

708
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: and I remember not loving the tape that much earlier,

709
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: like maybe two weeks ago, getting away block or a

710
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: little bit. He looks pretty good out there. Another guy

711
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: who had a good week two and he's a guy

712
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: we haven't watched yet or I haven't watched yet. Is

713
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: the other Baylor guy jay Lee too right, big six

714
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: three guy hadn't seen anything, but it had knew nothing

715
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: about him, a lot of winning in one on one

716
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: he had some big wins and one on ones for sure.

717
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: Ard Briles was down there owning on all over it.

718
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we got it covered. Anybody liked

719
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: to tie it in from Ohio State making some plays. Yeah,

720
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: I didn't think today was his best day. I know

721
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: on the goal line Carson Wentz left one a little

722
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: bit behind him, but he couldn't bring it in again intercepter.

723
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: But before that, I thought, I thought that for all

724
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: three days we saw him just as a big body

725
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: guy that maybe he didn't get really open, but hey,

726
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: Jason Witten doesn't get really open. That's on Twitter last night.

727
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: They asked me, is that a that be a Jason

728
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: Witten comparison? You know, a big guy that can can

729
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: get down there, And I'd say, in the early days,

730
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: we can run. Yeah, Whitten kid. Really, you know, I

731
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: think Whitten was a four six two the that guy

732
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: wasn't running away from anybody, but just in traffic and

733
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: using his body and making contested catches. I thought he

734
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: did you know who else did that? Well? That and

735
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: Katie you mentioned him comparing him to Braxton Miller Burbridge,

736
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: the kid at Michigan State. Yeah, Like I watch him

737
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: run routes and it's like, this guy's not gonna get separation.

738
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of explosiveness, but when it comes

739
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: to the contested ball, he goes and gets it. Yeah,

740
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: he had a couple that. Yeah, but man, it's said

741
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: body catching stuff. He had the worst drop of this

742
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: entire week as far as i'm that's slanted, cla and

743
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: just and like accidents happened. That's how he has to win, though,

744
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: is getting inside He's winning on the outside. No, No,

745
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: And that's what Dane was even talking about when we

746
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: were doing a Senior Bowl live when the one on

747
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: one routes and stuff like that. Dane's like that, you know,

748
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: Murray's gonna feel real comfortable on this one. No speed,

749
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, he's gonna have to win inside is what

750
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to do. Okay, anymore, Kalo wants to know,

751
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: and we kind of touched on this. We didn't really

752
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: talk about him in much detail though, but is Dak

753
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: helping himself, hurting himself or just kind of there. I

754
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: don't know that I watched him enough to know, Like

755
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: I tried to watch that group of quarterbacks, and the

756
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: only note that I made is I thought that all

757
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: of them were inconsistent in terms of delivering the ball

758
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: in accuracy. Like Dak is probably a better thrower than

759
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: I thought. He was coming into some sec SEC records

760
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 1: for passing and something you need to go back. Yeah,

761
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: I had a different, a little bit different impression of

762
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: him because I've seen him light our alma mater up

763
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: not this passing, but a year before. And yeah, and

764
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: so I was thinking, all right, and you know, let's

765
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: let's see we got here. And he didn't throw the

766
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: ball in these practices as well as I thought, or

767
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: that I had seen him throw. We need to sit

768
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: down and study him, because I'm sure they've at the

769
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: Valley Ranch. It's one throw after another after another after another.

770
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: You get an idea about that type of a player.

771
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: But you know, they're gonna run some things in this game.

772
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: They're gonna run some breed option stuff, and he's gonna

773
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: probably look great throwing it on the move and stuff

774
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: like that. We killed Brandon Allen, and rightfully so for

775
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: running and tucking the ball. Dak did it today and

776
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: like blew through the secondary so fast. I was like

777
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: that touchdown running. He had a good stellar shoes and

778
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, sign me up for that. Briskt

779
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: did that today too. He played better today. I minded

780
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: a lot less when it's an athletic guy who can

781
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: actually get yards, who's doing it? Um, we have to

782
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: answer this one because it's it's it's a special question

783
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: from Dane Brugler. All Right, Dane. He says he thought

784
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: the North offensive line played a lot better today and

785
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: he wants to know if Jack Allen can start in

786
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. He'll hang up and listen. I thought Jack

787
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: Allen was really good. I thought Jack Allen was really

788
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: good all week. And I think Jack Allen if Nick

789
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: Martin's gonna play center, Um, that the kid from Michigan.

790
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: I think all those guys Glasgow have something. I think

791
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: Jack Allen though, to me, was the best center this week.

792
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: I thought he was really good. He also played a

793
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: little bit of guard. Nick Martin did the same thing.

794
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: I show that they have some versatility. But I thought

795
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: Jack Allen was the best center this week. Yeah, it's

796
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: funny because Jack Allen to me and I and Dane

797
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: knows this, this is my old this is my Perry

798
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: Mason reference where Dane knows the answers to the question.

799
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: You know, Perry Mason shortly, Dane is going to tweet

800
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: in and well, yeah, exactly, that's what Dane does what

801
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: we love him for it. But yeah, I think when

802
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: you watched watched Allen on film, there's that the one

803
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: technique or the three technique, and he's and he's snatching

804
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: that guy. I mean he's reaching front side and in

805
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: positioned himself in turn and then the balls going to

806
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: the outside and he's in position. So I agree with

807
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: you because I did see that a couple of times

808
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: when they were doing some run scheme stuff where he

809
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: was getting he was stepping hard front side and getting

810
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: up on his guy and all that. And then those

811
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: times when you see him second level. I know went

812
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: back and watched the Baylor game last year that they played,

813
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: and he he had some second level blocks it. But

814
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: I thought, overall, the offensive lines we're better now. Again,

815
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: we still have a couple of weak spots and that's

816
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: where they were better than they were on day one.

817
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Exact day one, every defensive lineman was a Hall of

818
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: Famer and past. To be fair, these drills aren't real

819
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: easy for offensive Lineman and you've got Noah Spense lined

820
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: up wide and he's just you know, screaming, and poor

821
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: Murphy from Stanford is like there's another Oh, here we go.

822
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: You know, he just opens up and tries to cut

823
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: him off. So yeah, Dan's right though, I thought overall,

824
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 1: and and I do. I do like Alan the Center,

825
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: and I do like Martin. I think just a couple

826
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: of good combos. And the guy we didn't see here

827
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: today was or this week was Kelly the Center Alabama,

828
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: Alabama that we didn't see. And he's another good center.

829
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: So just because no one said a nice word about him.

830
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: Yet there's a guy named Austin Blythe that I thought

831
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: had an okay day the last Iowa. Yeah, yeah, not bad,

832
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: not bad at all. Okay, you want another one, Yeah,

833
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm good this one. This one's not. It's not so

834
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: much prospect related. I think it's interesting given the conversation

835
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: we were having, Rob wants to know, how do you

836
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: how does it affect your search for a one technique

837
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: that David Irving is there with what seems to be

838
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: some upside and does that affect you're thinking at all? Well,

839
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: it is worth throwing in the very Terrell mcclean's back,

840
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: and we still and we all want to love Terrell McClean.

841
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: But Terrell McClean plays three games and all something something

842
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: bad happened has not worked out for him two years,

843
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: two times in the I R. You know, okay, so

844
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: you have two, but David Freeging one text that you

845
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: can't count on. No, no, no, I play I play

846
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: David Irvan. Either play him at end or I playim

847
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: at three. Okay, I don't play him inside there? I mean,

848
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: is he want you know, you want to feel like

849
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: though he can be a point of attack, plaim at

850
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: the three, let him play on that shoulder, let him

851
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: go up the field. That's what he can do. That's

852
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: kind of amazing that you think somebody should play three

853
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: because you think everyone should play one. So well, it's

854
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: great if you okay, I'll give you three. Well children.

855
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: Rankings Sheldon Rankings was awesome this week. Another one too,

856
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins Washington Dolphins. One yeah, inside outside spin move, yeah,

857
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: all right, just to you assess the situation, all right, Sheldon.

858
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankin's is gonna go in the first round. Yeah,

859
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: it's realistic. It's realistic to think that between his cost

860
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: and the coach's affinity for him, that Nick Hayden could

861
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: wind up here again. Sure so, but we're trying to

862
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: get better. We're gonna trying to run him out of town,

863
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: aren't we. I know, I am all right, well, really

864
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: he could be on the team. I'm just looking for

865
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: a starter. But I'm saying, okay, so Tyrone Crawford's a starter. Three,

866
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: you have Irving in the mix, McLean in the mix,

867
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: and you have an ir maybe nice maybe Hayden in

868
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: the mix. All of these things back up at the one.

869
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: All of these things don't deter you from wanting a

870
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: defensive tackle as high as thirty four. See that's why

871
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: I think thirty if that's why I think thirty four

872
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: is gonna be an interesting pick. See if they were.

873
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: If we're killing off a twelve and four year and

874
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are picking twenty five and we're talking about

875
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: having the twenty fifth pick in the second round, then

876
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna be more okay. Well,

877
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: like I feel like a lot of people might not

878
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: be okay with that. At thirty four, it's almost the

879
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: first round pick. But let's let's thot some other names. Then, right.

880
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: Let's guys who weren't here this week, like Kenny Clark

881
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: from UCLA. Here you go. Is there a guy that

882
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: you hope falls to you in the third round? That

883
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: might be that type of guy. See, that's where I

884
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: think that two me defensive tackles are gonna be hot though.

885
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna, they're gonna and you're gonna sta. We got

886
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: them all stacked up in there like ourselves to say,

887
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: the club sandwich. Somebody made a really good point on Twitter.

888
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't remember Billing even talk about Bill.

889
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: With the amount of dudes here like where I mean,

890
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: there's a realistic shot you could get some pretty good

891
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: value at this position in the third round. This well,

892
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: this may be just like running back last year, where

893
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: if you don't take the guy a defensive tackle with

894
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: thirty four, you're not gonna get your chance to get

895
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: a guy that you like in the third round. See, Okay,

896
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. That's a good point. Let

897
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: me ask you this question, though. If we have eighteen

898
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 1: names on our board in the first round, eighteen names,

899
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: and we get the thirty four one of them is

900
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: gonna be there, what position do you think the last

901
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: player is gonna be you know that last guy left,

902
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: the last guy left, because we took Jason Witton in

903
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. He was our last player. His

904
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: grad was a one to one nine, which made him

905
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the first round, and we took

906
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: him a third. He was the last player that we

907
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: had on the board in the first round. What position,

908
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: because that could tell you what direction you're gonna go,

909
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: and could it be one of these one of these

910
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: one technique? I think it is that because of just

911
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 1: how many of them that there are. I mean, there's

912
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: just there's gonna be a bunch of them. I've I've

913
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: got get at my board right now, I've got four

914
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: and then I mean i've got I'm lay them as

915
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: DT's not one in three. I haven't separated him, but

916
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: I've got four right there off the top. And then

917
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, who knows who you'll bump up into that

918
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: as we keep going. What position do you think could

919
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: it be? You know what position? I don't think anybody

920
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: that I have in here as a one will be

921
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: in the second round. Um well, just you know, just

922
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: just love you guys. What position though? What position do

923
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: you think could be a could be a Could it

924
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: be a quarterback? Could one of those quarterbacks slide? Sure

925
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: could be. It could be my guy. It could be

926
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: my guy from Lynch. It could be my guy Lynch.

927
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: I don't I don't. I don't think he I don't

928
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: think he is. But you know, I'll be honest, I

929
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: think there's a snowballs chance in hell that one of

930
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: the three, the Big three is there at thirty four. Honestly,

931
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't see Carson Wentz as a top ten pick,

932
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: but I don't see him lasting that long. I don't know.

933
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm just see That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to

934
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: figure out what the what's the best position going to

935
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: be at thirty four. It may be defensive tackle. I mean,

936
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: I know there's that's there's up the corners we like,

937
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: but I think we like him. Morris sort of third

938
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: round guys, the Howard Kidd from Baylor, Jackson from Houston,

939
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: A couple of guys that we're out here, uh, second

940
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: round because I'm looking at defensive tackles and we're talking Billings,

941
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: We're talking drawn, Jaren Reid, Yeah, Buckner, if mel Austin Johnson,

942
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: Austin Johnson, a Shawn Robinson, Kenny Clark, like that's that's

943
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: five or it sounds like that that that might be

944
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: the direction that their board gets pointed to. It's like, okay,

945
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: as it starts to as all those names start coming off,

946
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: and now you've you've wiped out thirty one names. You've

947
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: taken thirty one names off that board now or actually

948
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: thirty well you're gonna pick it thirty four, so you

949
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: take it thirty three names off that board. It might

950
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: that defensive tackle group might be the one that's lined

951
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: up said, okay, let's go grab one of those guys.

952
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not being narrow minded at all here,

953
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: but at thirty four, I am thinking about I've kind

954
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: of looked at three positions that I think you're gonna

955
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: get the best value, best type of player in that area,

956
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: and defensive tackles one of them, and I think wide

957
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: receiver and running back. Okay, there you go the running

958
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: back because we haven't figured out a second round running

959
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: back yet. Yeah. Well, depending on what you like with

960
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: the alb and i'd ask you that I'm not on

961
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: the Alabama train. For I'm not on the Alabama train.

962
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: I got the wrong group of people sitting here, if

963
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: you want to like the Alabama ram, I'm meant to

964
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: ask you because know and we've talked about it, but

965
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Elliot's here and then you just kind of

966
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: have this cluster you do. And that's what we got

967
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Did our boy did our boy

968
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: from Tech maybe play his way? I've got a two

969
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: on Dixon. There you go. That's what I'm asking. See,

970
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't like Booker more than him from you talk.

971
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: That's I'm saying. Booker's another guy too. We got to

972
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: find out about his medicals and if his knee's okay,

973
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm not running back. Group is going to be really

974
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: deep again because you're still talking about Dixon too. You

975
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: gotta watch that well. And I don't like him at

976
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: thirty four though I don't know. That's part of the

977
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: problem though, is that like I put him in the

978
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: second round and then you talk about thirty four and

979
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know thirty four and if well, hey,

980
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: you put him in the second round, that's board. Now

981
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna be there at sixty nine. It's no,

982
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: you're right about that. That's see. It's not window dressing though.

983
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: I don't think it's window dressing. It wouldn't take him

984
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: at thirty four. You talked about him as a second

985
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: round guy. Sixty was a second round pick last year.

986
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: I feel a hell of a lot better about it

987
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: there than I do it. I know what he's saying

988
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: because I do the same thing, Like I put a

989
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: bunch of guys in the second round. Then it's like,

990
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: would you take him at thirty four? And I'm like, man,

991
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: thirty four is kind of high thirty round. I'm like, yeah,

992
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like it really. Second quick quick question

993
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: for everybody here in the panel. Dave Hellman, Okay, Braxton

994
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: Miller or Jaren Reid thirty four? Oh Man, thirty four? Uh?

995
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 1: Thirty four? Thirty four read? I mean you're talking about

996
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: probably a starter, Yeah, Katie, Jaron Reid, I'm gonna acknowledge

997
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: the possibility that we all look really, really foolish by

998
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 1: doing it. Jaron Reid, I think you can. I think

999
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: I think Jaron Reid. I think the board is going

1000
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: to point to Jaron Reid or one of those defensive tackles.

1001
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: But letting Andrew Billings make it to thirty four, that

1002
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: would be fun. Let's do that that'd be great. Come on,

1003
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: let's do that? Would it just positive? Come on? NFL

1004
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: Andrew Billings look at the games when he had the

1005
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: high struggling in those games. Well, you know, like you

1006
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: didn't think that Randy Gregory would be there at sixty,

1007
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: and you didn't think that Lyle Collins wouldn't get drafted

1008
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: its fair Shack Lawson at thirty four. I am intrigued.

1009
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: I am intrigued by that though, And I'm I think

1010
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: it's fascinating the way that people can And I'm not

1011
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: accusing you of this, but like tunnel vision, you know, like,

1012
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: is Braxton Miller really thirty four caliber? Well, that's what

1013
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He play his way into that Kent pick.

1014
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: He's a potential pick, all right, He's not. He hasn't

1015
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: been out here being a polished, awesome wide receiver. He's

1016
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: been glimpses of fantastic athleticism. I kind of think. I

1017
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: kind of think like people came into this week like, well,

1018
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: who's who is this guy? And now it's he's like, Okay,

1019
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: he's pretty impressive. But I worry that you're like overreacting

1020
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: like this guy's a first round Some people will take

1021
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: him around thirty four, whether it's before round. See, I

1022
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: don't want to be the guy that's what's gonna happen.

1023
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: Because if you turn around and say, Okay, he's gonna

1024
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: wait till the middle of the second round, wait till

1025
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be there. See, you're gonna have to

1026
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: to me that one's gonna have to be maybe, and

1027
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call to reach, but you're gonna have

1028
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: to hit that one early. That's not one of me.

1029
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: One of those who get that gets back around too,

1030
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: same thing I just said. And maybe it doesn't, but

1031
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: I feel better about it at sixty than thirty four.

1032
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: Such a high. How would you stack him up, Brian,

1033
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: with guys like Boyd and Richard Higgins and Duckson and

1034
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: Coleman and those guys. And Will Filler's a guy you like? Right? Yeah? Like,

1035
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: how does he stack up with those guys? See, I

1036
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: would to me, I think that when you talk, Boyd

1037
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: is a guy. I mean, that's all those are all

1038
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: like second round names to me, right, So I mean,

1039
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: and and you know I don't. I was proud of

1040
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: you guys for taking read because I had him down

1041
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 1: in the bottom of those I'm scout, scout dad, I'm

1042
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm like the I had him down in the bottom

1043
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: of the second round there, Braxton, Yeah, I got him

1044
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: right there in the middle of that big girl. See.

1045
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying though to me. And if one

1046
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: of you would have went, you know, I can understand

1047
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: it though, because you're you're you're looking at that. You're

1048
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: looking at the potential of the player, right, And I

1049
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: don't want scouts look at the player and they go,

1050
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: I want to speed athletic. Kavana just said something I

1051
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: really liked, And honest, if it's sixty, I like drafting

1052
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: a guy at sixty because of potential. If I'm trafting

1053
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: him thirty fourth or for that matter, fourth, I want him.

1054
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: I want it now. But aren't you pretty convinced now

1055
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: that he can win some Yes, exactly, yes he can't.

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Speaker 1: This is why you try to put him look really

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Speaker 1: dumb to him over Tyler Boyd now because I am

1058
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Speaker 1: convinced that he can win all the time I think

1059
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: he can. Well, here's another thing, Braxton Miller had doesn't

1060
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: have a history of being durable. That that's very real thing.

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00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: That's fair real thing to roll mcclean's on Ir Brexton.

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00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: Miller wasn't wasn't dable practice today. He wasn't durable today.

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00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: Point I saw Jim Mauer walking with him. I don't

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00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: want to see that very much. You don't. I don't

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00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: want to see Jim Marrow his arm around him. That's

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Speaker 1: wrong with you, little number one. Jim Ouer being in

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Speaker 1: the SHOT's just not good for anymore. Take tread Will

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00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: at four. You don't have to worry about slash second round.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. You were all over that and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you just dumped him. I got no

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00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: problem with you, said, tread Will, you opened the door.

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Speaker 1: Just who did that? Treadmiller spens just to night treadble

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Speaker 1: Er Spence was an unfair question. It's harder going, Hey,

1074
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: that's sad, and we'll let you know a little bit. Yeah, okay,

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00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a little break and then we're gonna

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00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: finish up there. That great discussion, guys, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Coming back, we'll try and get to I just want

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Speaker 1: to get a couple more of these players. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about a bunch of guys, but I just want to

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00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: make sure we get a couple more before we wind

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Speaker 1: Draft Showboys. We are back here the Draft Show from Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: It's our final night here in Mobile for our show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't tease me, like, yeah we're here, Dave Hellman, Oh

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Speaker 1: you mean you're happy to be here? Yes, I'm happy

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Speaker 1: that I get to watch the game. I'm not happy

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Speaker 1: about like the drive back with Modest and Dad grind

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Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, yeah, we've got to we're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: gonna cover this Senior, but we're gonna. We're gonna stick

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Speaker 1: it out though, Dave Hellman and Kik Garrison and for

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Speaker 1: anybody that I are going to be here, I think

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Speaker 1: I decided I'm gonna live tweet the drive back with

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll even periscope. Yeah, oh that'd be fun. It'll stay.

1134
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to document what it's like just riding

1135
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: with me with a pain in the rear. I am yeah, okay,

1136
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, this will be our last night of doing

1137
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: the shows. We will not have a show on Friday.

1138
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: We'll be back next Friday at our normal time from

1139
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: Valley Ranch at eleven am. I want to thank Katie

1140
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: and Jeff are showing up today and helping us out.

1141
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: But before we close this thing out, I want to

1142
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: continue my little game. And I was playing with you

1143
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: guys about guys that might have helped, might have hurt.

1144
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: Give me just an opinion on them, about what you

1145
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: think you saw or what you might might have some

1146
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: ideas about. And a guy I want to get into

1147
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: is Sheldon Day, defensive tackle from Notre Dane plays defensive

1148
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: end some too. Yeah, I know what the old I

1149
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: know what the old ball coach down there thinks. I

1150
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: watched him Marinelli. Yeah it was all over that guy

1151
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: in a good way, not in like a mean way.

1152
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: Him playing defensive end. Yeah, he's got him playing in

1153
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: some defensive tackle. You know. My issue is that I

1154
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: was thinking, Okay, maybe he's a little too light. Now

1155
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: we know he's he's not even six one. So there's

1156
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: one thing. We had him at like two eighty five,

1157
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: wait him at two eighty five before we did need

1158
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: to find the way in. But so my problem is

1159
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: is he too liked to play the one tech. Sure enough,

1160
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: he goes out there, lines up at the one tech

1161
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: and did something that we saw a little bit on

1162
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: his college tape. But it was very prevalent this week

1163
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: in practice, especially in yesterday's practice, timing the snap and

1164
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: bursting to the inside and winning. Yeah, and that's and

1165
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are kind of like, well,

1166
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna get killed, And he might be when he

1167
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: get when some when they get their hands on him

1168
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: and they're able to push him a little bit. Yes,

1169
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't hold up very well, but he gets lower

1170
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: than everyone, and he's quicker than he's telling him after

1171
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: watching after watching tape, and I'm nicer to people on

1172
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: giving grades. Oh yeah, after watching tape, I no doubt

1173
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: I had a fourth round grade on him. Okay, here,

1174
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: I want to hear what having you guys fight five?

1175
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: I bumped him up to day two. Well six, Okay,

1176
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: he's six zero zero six, which makes him six one basically. Okay, Yeah,

1177
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: he's he's he's at least he's over six foot tall.

1178
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: He's two hundred and eighty six pound. There, Jeff Capitall.

1179
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: I thought he had a good week out here. I

1180
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: thought today was his best day because watching him play

1181
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: at the defensive end spot, I saw him with that

1182
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: initial quickness and with his ability to use his hands

1183
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: to keep people off of him and get back into

1184
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: the pocket. So I saw that from Sheldon day today.

1185
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 1: Still my problem is comparing it to the tape because

1186
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: on the tape, like what I what I wrote mostly

1187
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: is that he's not going to win at the point

1188
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: of attack, and he's too easy to move, and he

1189
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: doesn't get enough of a pass rush to make up

1190
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: for that. In my estimation when we finished watching him.

1191
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: You don't want to know the number the round I

1192
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: put on him, but yeah, I moved him up one

1193
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: based on watching him, and I think if you picked

1194
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: him in the fifth round, I can get with you, okay,

1195
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: But in terms of just a guy that do you

1196
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: think this guy is going to go out there at

1197
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: one of your defensive tackle spots and hold up over

1198
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: the course of an NFL game. I don't think he

1199
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: will the end. The stuff at end intrigues me. This

1200
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: is not a poor man j Aaron Donald. No no, no, no, no, no,

1201
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: you just talked about. But that's what's that's what the

1202
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: comparison will be. Yeah, Aaron Donald lived in the backfield

1203
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: when we went into last year's draft, and you even

1204
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: looked at that he lives in the lives and his

1205
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: numbers and his tape told you that that's where Aaron

1206
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: Donald resides. When the ball is snapped, he lives back there.

1207
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: It's where he gets all the time. Sheldon Day is

1208
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: just washed out of the play way too much for me.

1209
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm imagining this and we talk about this all the

1210
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: time from your days as a scout, like Will and

1211
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: the scouts are in there, You're at thirty four, You

1212
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: got these one texts you can and Rod Marinelli's like,

1213
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: we don't need that, Like we can get Sheldon Day

1214
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. I worked with him and mobile

1215
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: a good solid, strong pass, Russian, relentless, violent, And the

1216
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: scouts are just like, what are you doing now? What's

1217
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: wrong with Sheldon Day in the fourth round? See, I

1218
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: think everybody's right. I think Sheldon Day has to win

1219
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: on this first move. If Sheldon Dada went on his

1220
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: first move, he is no good to you. And if

1221
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: he gets caught rushing you down the middle, he is toast.

1222
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: Fourth round you're taking, you know what I want to pick?

1223
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: Fourth round? I think I think when you were talking

1224
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: about the fifth round, and so I just didn't see

1225
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw him an explosive player, but I

1226
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: didn't see a guy winning all the time. And I'll

1227
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: tell you what's gonna happen. He deserves kudos for the

1228
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: motor motor. Yeah, and there's a reason why he went

1229
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: to Notre Dame. I will tell you this though. I

1230
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: guarantee Rod Marinelli and the staff will sit down and

1231
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: they will watch him on tape because they I wonder

1232
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: if they've really studied him. Okay, they've coached him, they've

1233
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: coached him, but I wonder if they've really studied him,

1234
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: like against Stanford, against USC the games that we watch

1235
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: were there's big linemen are hammering him. That's intriguing to me.

1236
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: That's intrigue. I mean, yeah, you get to coach him,

1237
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: you get to see what he's all about. You like him,

1238
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: now go back and watch him. But what wins out

1239
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: with the coaches, I don't know. I mean, you know,

1240
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: he better be the tape. Better be the tape. A name,

1241
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: A name comes to mind right now, Ryan Russell, Uh, yeah,

1242
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: that you know, crazier things have happened. Maybe you like

1243
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: the guy maybe the tape isn't impressive and it doesn't

1244
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: bother you. So I don't know. I want to get

1245
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: into another name. I'll give you here. Uh. We talked

1246
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: about a little bit about these quarterbacks. I'm interested what

1247
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: you guys think of the kid. You brought him up,

1248
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Irvin from San Jose State. He got absolutely clocked

1249
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: out there a few times. I mean, he's a he's

1250
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: one ninety. I'm just saying he's on tape. He was

1251
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: probably one seventy five. How about that? How about that

1252
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: Auburn tape though, him running up inside there, I thought

1253
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: he was I thought he was a four net. You

1254
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: already used that joke telling him, yeah, that's a draft show.

1255
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: I can use a joke. He's tough, but he's it's

1256
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: real tape. No, I know he was blowing it up

1257
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: in there. I mean it's like San Jose was running

1258
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: the ball against Auburn. Fear, he has no fear. Is

1259
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: a guy that you consider late in the draft if

1260
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: you don't bring Dunbar back, Like I don't think it's

1261
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: a guy that you really would consider if you bring

1262
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: Dunbar back. Yeah, but if you don't. But he you know,

1263
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: the one huge question about him, aside from his size

1264
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: and all that is canny pass protect. Sure enough, he

1265
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: got a chance to pass protect today and a big

1266
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: and the competition drill right technically won. He technically won.

1267
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: Whenever one in the press box and I'm talking about

1268
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: Jeff and Brobs going cut him, cut him, and you

1269
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: tall it's Jared Morris came in and that he had

1270
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: it was gonna run him over, and Tyler ARV said, nah,

1271
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: not here. So listen, if it's third down and we

1272
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: got Irvan in the game, we're not here to pass pro.

1273
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: We are releasing. We're going somewhere. Miles killer Brew, m

1274
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: this is gonna take a lot. This wing me on,

1275
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: Miles killer Brew, you're going You're not going there already. No,

1276
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: he didn't move a little bit better. It did surprise

1277
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: me a little bit, but you're I was, you know what,

1278
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: this is the complete opposite of Sheldon Day for me.

1279
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna change my mind and Shill, I didn't

1280
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: actually like Sheldon. I thought Killer Brew's tape was really bad.

1281
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: I thought I was. I was very surprised when it

1282
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: was Dane who came in and he was like, listen,

1283
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: there's guys that are he's gonna be great at the

1284
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: combine and the way he's built, the way he runs,

1285
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: and then we turned on the tape, and on the

1286
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: tape we're like, okay, but he's not a football player,

1287
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna go to the combine and he's gonna

1288
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: run fast. He's gone, and they're gonna be like, he

1289
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: is a really good athlete. But watching on tape, he

1290
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: did not play safety. Well, he did not understand angles.

1291
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: There was a hesitancy to his game of caution, you know,

1292
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, so lose kat here. I think

1293
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: he's got a radio. But again he's got to go

1294
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: to Hey, this is your favorite thing to repeat over

1295
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: and over again in the world. Yeah, when you get

1296
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: into the late part of the draft, you're looking traits tea.

1297
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: If he's a super athletic, can he play a special

1298
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: team somebody? Right now? The problem is that somebody will

1299
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: take him earlier. Well, somebody's gonna take him as the

1300
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: football player, right and I can't be that team. Yeah,

1301
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: I would take him as the Yes, here's a guy

1302
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: who has the size I want, who has the speed

1303
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: I want, who maybe I can turn into something somebody's

1304
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna take him as that's our safety. It's not me

1305
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: that's said that'll be interesting. Okay, one more guy here

1306
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: before we get out of here. You brought him up.

1307
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: Two was Adolphus Washington. Yeah. I thought that he was

1308
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: one of those guys that when he lined up and

1309
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: it was time to penetrate, this isn't just one on one.

1310
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: This is one on one. This is the run game,

1311
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: this is the past game, the eleven on eleven Adolphins.

1312
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: Washington looked pretty advanced in terms of a guy who

1313
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: knows how to win coming off of the ball, right.

1314
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: You know, he could do the dip and rip, he

1315
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: had the arm over move, he showed a spin move.

1316
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: Adolphus Washington I thought was the guy that if you

1317
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: weren't gonna give it to Rankins as the guy who

1318
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: was sort of unstoppable out here, I would give it

1319
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: to Washington. I think Rankins is the better player because

1320
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: if he stopped initially, he's powerful enough, and I don't

1321
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: think Washington is the same sort of player in that spot.

1322
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: But in terms of a guy who could play the

1323
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: three technique that's not going to be easily washed away

1324
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: and can win in terms of pass rush, I thought

1325
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: Adolphus Washington had a good week. Yeah, I think. And

1326
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of three techniques in this draft. Yeah,

1327
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: and and and the problem is where's Candi gonna go?

1328
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah from you know, old miss. I mean that's what

1329
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean. He's gonna go. But you know what, though,

1330
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: there's some questions about him, Yeah, there are, and and

1331
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're thinking, well, you take a

1332
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: guy that you know, will he be the slider? You know,

1333
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: we have to you have to you have to think

1334
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: about those things. I'm not trying to compare the guy

1335
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: to Aaron Donald, but I did I mean he got

1336
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: into the backfield this week or Washing Wash Washington? Yeah,

1337
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: I thought he did. Yeah, I think so too. I

1338
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: think Rankins is a better player. I think ranking to

1339
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: the first round player. But I think you have to

1340
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: le have to look at and maybe you even you

1341
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: think it's more with this team probably doesn't think of

1342
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: him though, right, because that's it. It is a three

1343
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: tech that can I know that they love and they

1344
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: value that position. But you've got a guy making nine

1345
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: million a year at that position. Yeah, that's another And

1346
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not best player available. I get it,

1347
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: and I agree with it, but yeah, you gotta start

1348
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: thinking about it. It's gonna be there for years and years,

1349
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: which somebody brought up and completely reversing course, somebody brought

1350
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: up an interesting point today I thought, which is, you know,

1351
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: if you're taking this quarterback at four with that, with

1352
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: the intention that he's not gonna play consistently for even

1353
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: two to three years, and then you got to use

1354
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: that putting a lot of money into a position you're

1355
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: not getting used out of, especially if you pick up

1356
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: his option, which for a quarterback, you're talking probably fifteen

1357
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: million dollars. You could try it on the chief again,

1358
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: and you could fail miserably when your starter goes down.

1359
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 1: It's always an option. You could we could be talking

1360
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: about the third overall pick again next year. You could be.

1361
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: You could be. You could be smart and yeah, no

1362
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: you can't anyway, I don't. Yeah, Okay, Well that's all

1363
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: the time we have for tonight on the Draft show, Brian,

1364
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: what do you want to see at the actual game

1365
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: since we're still we still have that to watch? Yeah,

1366
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: I you know what, i I'm I'm always going to

1367
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: be interested in pass rushers. I'm always gonna be interested

1368
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: in defensive lineman. I think that this team. I'm interested

1369
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: too in secondary play. I want to see a couple

1370
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: I want to we didn't even talk about those. Yeah, yeah,

1371
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: I want to see some corners, and they competed yesterday.

1372
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: A big guys. Absolutely, guy, there's some guys with some

1373
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: range with some link to him. Murray from Minnesota kept

1374
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: showing absolutely, so, yeah, it's a scrappy dude. Apps. Yeah,

1375
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: I keep saying absolutely because you're absolutely right, specifically because

1376
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: of Kavanaugh. I'm gonna watch Spence like a hawk throughout

1377
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: this game, you know what, you know what? Yeah, you need,

1378
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: you need, you know what. That would be a great

1379
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: story for you. And at the end of the day, right,

1380
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: just what a monster because they're not going to block him.

1381
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: If they do, though, if they block him, then we

1382
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: need to draft a tackle and put him over the

1383
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: right side. The tackle moves up two or three. But

1384
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: I really it's been a good week for these guys.

1385
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: I want to see, though. I want to see some

1386
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: guys that maybe that didn't have Maybe the quarterback, maybe

1387
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott does step up. Maybe Kevin Hogan's a gamer.

1388
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I didn't see it

1389
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: you're talking about You're talking about eight quarterbacks in an

1390
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: exhibition game with no blitzing and stuff. I just worry

1391
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: that I'm not really gonna see that much out of

1392
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: them that I can do it. Would you think less

1393
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: of Carson Wins if he kind of has a bad day,

1394
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: if he has a really bad day, I mean, it's

1395
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: not gonna ruin my opinion of him, but if he

1396
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: really saw Oh you guys killed this guy, killed Lynch

1397
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: for have a bad day against Auburn. So I told

1398
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: I said it earlier and I'll say it again. I'm

1399
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: get ready the music say it again. Shut up, now

1400
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: give me the player. You can have the traits. This

1401
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: is Kavanaugh. Either he's the best player to ever play

1402
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 1: or he's a garbage There's no in between. The golf, Yeah,

1403
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: there's no in between with this man. How about Team

1404
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 1: Spence now a right team golf? Good? Well, the music

1405
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: tells it's time to go. I'm gonna just thank Kevin

1406
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: Turner he had to go out and do a little

1407
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: radio for one oh five three, and then Jeff Kavanaugh

1408
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: for coming and being a part of a Senior Bowl week.

1409
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. For doing that. I want

1410
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: to also thank David Hellman for always being a part

1411
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: of the Draft Show. Dame Burglar out there, uh, and

1412
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: I want to thank Ken Garrison, our executive producer. I

1413
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: also want to thank ed Ka Hill for coming up

1414
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: with this idea and Derek Eagleton for letting us do it.

1415
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: We will see you next Friday. Make sure you're looking

1416
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: at Dallascowboys dot com for all your all your needs

1417
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: in the draft, all your needs for the Senior Bowl.

1418
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: Will be covering it just like a game. I'll have

1419
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: my twelve thoughts, we'll do all those great things. So

1420
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: for my crew here, thanks again. Have a great weekend

1421
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: and we'll see you next Friday on the Draft Show.