WEBVTT - Republicans DGAF 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.440 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA f Daily with 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:19.040 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.600 I want to start off by saying that I am 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.440 going to be taking the next couple of days off, 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.880 but do not worry and do not despair, because we 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:32.559 have a bunch of really timely interviews stacked up for 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.839 you for the rest of the week, and I will 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:41.120 be returning back live ish on Tuesday. But coming up 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.080 in the next couple of days that I am taking 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:48.839 some time off, we have our normal weekly conversation with 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:52.400 our friend doctor Jonathan Metzel. We have a couple of 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.560 interviews with some folks that you know and love, like 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.760 Kurt Bardela and Danielle Campamore, as well as our friend 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.000 the Reverend Mark Thompson from Make It Plain and Leslie Mack, 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.400 communications director for the front Line coming up in the 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.639 next couple of days. And so I want to start 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:16.440 off friends with obviously the major breaking news that broke 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.360 earlier this week with regard to Donald Trump and his 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:25.200 home and Mara Lago being searched by the FBI. This 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.679 is what I want to say about that. First of all, 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.600 it is apparent that Republicans continue to not give a 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:39.480 fuck about the legal system, about justice, about accountability, about 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.319 politics as usual, about democracy, about any of those things, 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:48.559 because the series of tweets that have come out from 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:54.520 people like Kevin McCarthy, Ted Cruz and others that essentially 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.800 are putting the Department of Justice and Democrats on notice 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.800 that they plan on when and if they take back 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.880 the House in midterm elections, to open up a series 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:09.440 of investigations into Merrick Garland, into investigation, into an investigation. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:14.280 And what I have to remind folks and remind Democrats 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:19.400 or that the Republicans are a rabid fucking cult, right, 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:25.000 they are a white supremist, anti democratic, fascist cult. And 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:30.840 if we do not continue to call out the violence 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.240 that they speak of, if we do not continue to 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:37.800 call out their anti democratic sentiments and just allow it 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:42.640 to be casually just business as usual, we are going 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.160 to find ourselves in major fucking trouble. As if we're 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.880 not already in major fucking trouble now, you would think 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.000 that I would be jumping up and down about the 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:56.680 fact that the FBI had, you know, was able to 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:01.080 obtain a warrant and searchie Donald Trump's home, to be honest, 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:06.360 until we find out what the contents of that search was, 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:10.600 what the contents of the warrant was, I am not 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.440 going to count my chickens before they hatch. I am 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.600 not going to pretend that this is going to automatically 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.120 turn into a series of indictments and that we are 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.400 going to see those that our treasonists have waged treason 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.800 misbehavior against this country, that they're actually going to be 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:31.080 held accountable. What I will say is that contrary to 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.360 Republican belief and even some of the fucking talking points 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.240 that I'm hearing push back from Democrats, which are literally 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.960 uttering Donald Trump's own talking points as if we've learned 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:48.440 nothing over the last six years, is that one the 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.560 only way for the FBI to have attained a warrant 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.880 to search Donald Trump's property is by probable cause, and 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:59.480 probable cause is more than suspicion, right. It is having 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.800 to go to a judge and say that there is 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.520 evidence of criminal activity. And the only way for us 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.400 to be able to confirm right that there is criminal 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.440 activity is for us to be able to search the property. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.159 And once we are able to then search and either 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.720 come up to the conclusion that nothing was found or 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.840 that exactly what it was that we were looking for 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:27.560 was found. So this is not a willy nilly just oh, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.400 we've been sitting around for the last eighteen nineteen months 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.080 and now all of a sudden, the Department of Justice 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.760 and the FBI has turned into some type of political 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.640 strong arm. That is not the case. How do we 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.600 know that because I myself have been on this show 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.520 and other people's shows calling out Merritt Garland's glacial fucking 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.400 pace right as it pertains to holding Donald Trump to account. 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:55.560 We understand right that this is an unprecedented time, it's 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:59.120 an unprecedented search. But what's not being followed up by 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:03.760 the media that this was an unprecedented fucking president who 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.760 was a criminal. It is not just like we didn't 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.760 like Donald Trump so now he's being investigated on all 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.599 of these fronts. It's that, No, Donald Trump is a 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.560 known fucking criminal that has had multiple lawsuits against him 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.320 over his entire career, none of which have stuck, which 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.120 is why they referred to him as teflon Don. And 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:28.719 now he took that criming ass behavior to the White 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:32.400 House right and thought that he had insulated himself enough 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:36.200 with enough sycophants and enough people in different agencies to 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.880 do his bidding that he never thought for an instance 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:44.479 that he would ever face anybody in windbreakers at his 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.240 front doorstep, which he didn't because he was in fucking 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:51.280 New York, right. And why was Donald Trump in New York, Oh, 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:56.000 because his appeal against the New York Age's insistence on 0:05:56.120 --> 0:06:01.159 him testifying before her in her fucking legal search of 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.240 a civil suit against Donald Trump and the Trump organization. Right. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.680 So there's just so many things that are going on, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:13.560 and it isn't like the Republicans pursuit of Hillary Clinton 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.920 for Benghazi or her emails or Hunter Biden's laptop. Right, 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:22.200 there is actual evidence broad out in the fucking open 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.880 evidence of Donald Trump's criming. But what we know is 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:31.039 that Republicans don't care, right, They want to weaponize any 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:36.159 agencies against people who have alternative ideologies and thoughts, meaning 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.279 those that believe in democracy they see as antipatriotic, and 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.920 those that are pro fucking orbon and Putin and Donald 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.279 Trump are the real patriots. That's the fucking Earth two 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.320 that they live on. So what I want people to 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:55.479 recognize is that this was indeed a major step by 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.200 the FBI and the Department of Justice. But let's be 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.760 clear that the other conversation that is being had that 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.000 I feel like it's not getting the kind of attention 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.920 that it should is the fact that people are very 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:11.760 fearful right that Donald Trump will once again weaponize his 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.200 white supremacist militia against the government the way he did 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:20.800 on January sixth, that all of instantly, what was coming 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.280 out of the tweets from the right wing, from the 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:28.000 fascist right wing, our talks about a civil war, or 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.160 talks about violent, or talks about shoot him up, or 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.800 talks about lock and load, right, because these people are 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.960 in fact itching for the opportunity to kill as many 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.440 people as they can. And the fact is is that 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.800 we are just not talking about this with the measure 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:50.680 of fucking like alarm bells that we should. This type 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.120 of language should not be shrugged off as this is 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.880 just you know, politics as usual. It is not. Donald 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.200 Trump has poisoned the well of our democracy. He did 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.760 so six years ago, and he has never let up. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.239 And the fact is is that all of these people 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.840 who at one time six years ago had half a 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:13.160 working brain, have all become trump is bots, and they 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.480 are willing to do whatever it takes in order to 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.240 keep Donald Trump in power as their king. And so 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:24.000 if that means having an all out onslaught, if they 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.960 were to regain the gavels for mid terms against Democrats 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.760 and creating political prisoners of the people that they do 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.160 not like, that is what we are going to see 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:37.120 and that is what they are telling us, right. So 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.880 what did maya Angelous say? When people show you who 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:44.960 they are? Believe them right, Republicans consistently continue to tell 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.320 us who they are, continue to tell us who they 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.720 bow to, right, who they are in service to, and 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.240 it is not the American people, It is Donald Trump. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.840 One of the questions that I asked this week on Twitter, however, 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.920 is this given the fact that we saw Kansas, a 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:08.360 conservative state, come out right and say absolutely not to 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:13.079 a ban on abortion in their state. With these reactions 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:17.240 now around Donald Trump being under investigation, which we already 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:21.319 know but now finally being quote unquote searched, right, our 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:26.199 Republican women who came out in Kansas, our Republican women 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.400 across the nation going to decide that going to bat 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.840 for Donald Trump is more important than going to bat 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.040 for their bodily autonomy. Is it going to be the 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.040 decision that, oh my god, they've gone after my king, 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.680 my man, the pussy grabber in chief, that they would 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.800 rather go to the polls and pull a slot for 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:50.920 Republicans so that they can stand by their man. Right. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.800 So that's the real question, because people are saying on 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:56.800 the news that, oh my god, this comes as such 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.640 a bad timing for Democrats. And I'm saying, why Democrats 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.840 have just passed an onslaught a fucking legislation that we 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.320 have not seen in this country in twenty and thirty 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:12.360 some odd goddamn years, And they did so while right 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:17.400 our intelligence agencies we're doing their job. You see, the 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.480 intelligence agencies not working in fucking tandem like they did 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:25.679 on the Trump administration, with this White House and with Congress. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:29.480 Is exactly how government is supposed to fucking work. So 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.920 Democrats are able to get things done for the American 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:39.840 people while our intelligence agencies are making sure the people, 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.199 all people, including the former president of the United States, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.679 are following the law. If I'm a Democrat right now 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.520 and I got a microphone in front of my face 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:53.679 and I'm running for reelection right, I'm saying Democrats are 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.360 showing proof is in the pudding that we can walk 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.600 and chew gum at the same time that we can 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.839 deliver for the American people in terms of climate change, 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:08.319 inflation reduction, jobs reports, in terms of being able to 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:11.640 combat some of the serious issues in this country while 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:17.360 also holding a former fucking criminal ass president accountable. I 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:22.280 don't understand what wouldn't make that a winning message. It 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.600 isn't about one or the other. It's the fact that 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.240 you have an entire Republican party that does not give 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.319 a fuck about the American people, that does not give 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.839 a fuck about offering up any policies or any legislations 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.320 that are about giving something to the American people. The 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.040 only thing that Republicans are interested in is taking things 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.319 away from the American people. Whether it is their ability 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.360 to collectively bargain, whether it is their ability to afford healthcare, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.559 whether it is their ability to have bodily autonomy, whether 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.800 it is their ability to vote, whether it is their 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:58.559 ability to breathe fresh air and drink clean water. Everything 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:02.960 that Republicans do is taking away something as opposed to 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.000 offering it up, and that to me is the clear 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.680 message that Democrats need to be pounding into the American 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:14.360 consciousness from now until midterm elections and fucking beyond because 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.440 the threat, dear friends, is not going to be over 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.680 because midterm elections is over. These people are out for 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:26.040 blood and I mean that fucking literally. So if we 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.800 are not paying attention to what they are saying out loud, 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.560 then once again we are going to be caught off 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.680 guard and unprepared for what is coming next. 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I am even more so thrilled 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:31.680 this week because my god, folks, something miraculous has happened, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.960 and it is I don't know if hell has frozen over, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:41.200 but Donald Trump's Moral Lago residence was in fact searched 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.000 by the FBI. Will not be using the word raided, 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.200 which is his language that the media then repeated over 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.960 and over again that they raided him and they broke 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.960 in to his safe. No, the FBI gets a warrant 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.840 from a judge and they have to show what is 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.720 the word probable cause in order for them to be 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:05.240 able to enter into anyone's residence, including a former president 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.680 of the United States Jonathan As the narratives started to 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:13.920 play out and again this was, you know, major breaking news, 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:20.080 and there's no there is no blueprint for this is 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.480 what is happening, and there hasn't been a blueprint for 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.080 what has been happening in America over the last couple 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.520 of years that you and I have been engaging in conversation. 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.360 But I want to say that as people were starting 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.160 to recognize the gravity of the situation, there were several 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:39.760 commentators who made reference to the fact that they were 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.760 concerned about what Donald Trump supporters were going to do 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:49.560 in response to the FBI searching Mara Lago, particularly being 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.760 concerned that Donald Trump would once again weaponize the white 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:57.760 supremacist organizations that he had sent to Capitol Hill to 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.920 go and hang his vice president, now turn around and 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:06.560 pose another threat to the government. Jonathan, The way that 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.560 the conversation was happening, though on cable news made it 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.040 seem like it was kind of like a shrug event. 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.280 And to me, we're talking about a former president of 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:21.360 the United States gathering his own militia once again in 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.800 order to turn it on the government. So, you know, 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:28.440 you get into the minds of these people and have 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.360 over the past several years. And I want to know 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:36.280 what you make of that narrative of that response that 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.000 this is where we are as a country, that we 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.160 are concerned about this man who we now know wanted 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.480 his generals because General Millie has a new book out, 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.280 as everybody does, that comes out of the Trump administration 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.880 talking about the fact that he wanted his generals to 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:57.120 act like why can't my generals act like Hitler's generals? Right, 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.520 And again, we're talking about this in a very to me, 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:04.119 in a very dismissive way, as opposed to we're at 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.800 a five alarm emergency. So what did you what have 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:13.199 you been making of their responses to this search by 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.840 the FBI. I mean, it's such an evolving story, you know, 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.720 as we filmed this, and so I think the main issue, 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:26.360 I'm certainly there were threatening tweets and messages coming out 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:32.040 yesterday across the kind of oathkeeper style spectrum. And there 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.840 were also threatening tweets coming out from the NRA official 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:42.520 NRA site and from people invoking the ruined case, the 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.040 Supreme Court case about about weapons, and so there were 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.720 some pretty real threats that were going around last night. 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.119 And I think really the story for me, I don't know. 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.080 I could easily be wrong about this. I'm not that 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:04.320 worried relatively speaking about the Oathkeepers taking over the country. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.080 Maybe there'll be something horrible that happened, will happen, and 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.800 that seems I just think possibility. But I mean, I 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.080 think for me, the bigger concern is that they make 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.520 Trump into a sympathetic figure, which will impact a lot 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.679 more people than just people who are in extremist groups. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.600 And so I think that really for me, the question 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.399 is what are they going to uncover and what are 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.080 they uncovering from all this, and we don't know that 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:33.760 right now. If it's al Capone's vault, or if it's 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:38.320 something that's just technical and doesn't make emotional sense to people, 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.520 then I think it plays into the narrative that Trump 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.919 has been using all along, about the narrative of racial 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:49.919 resentment and victimhood. And you know, once he pretty recently 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.600 go he said I'm like the most oppressed person in 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:57.800 the country or something like that, And so I think 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.240 that's going to be the thing, is what's the story 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.639 based on what they find. But if it's some slam 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.360 dunk thing that people can understand, oh, yeah, this dude 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:10.160 broke the law, then I think it's a different story. 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.000 So I think it's really honestly TVD right now. But 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.080 I do think there's obviously a risk in this that 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:22.480 they basically rally everyone around Trump, or Trump gets in 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:27.280 you convicted of something that is a kind of minor 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.920 issue in terms of how people understand it, like oh, 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.640 he just took some papers or something like that. It 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.679 paves the way for just santists, but Trump remains a 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.920 powerful sympathetic figure. So I think there's a major political 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:43.760 story that's going to come out of this that will 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.080 impact the elections, It will impact the work of the 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:52.360 January sixth Committee, It will impact any possible collaboration on 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:56.399 other things that are pending before Congress, like marriage equality 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.359 and all these factors. And so I think that right now, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.200 there's just there's there's so many variables from this, and 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.760 let's just hope that somebody really, really really thought this 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.640 through and that there is some kind of slam dunk 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.159 evidence that's going to come out of this, which I 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:17.439 think will make things a lot more It'll it'll make 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:18.840 a lot more sense to people. But I don't know 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.840 is that sense also? Yeah? But but yeah, because here's 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.600 my thing is that, like this, this has been my 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.040 problem with the Department of Justice, the FBI, and all 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:33.000 of the our like security agencies, is that I think 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.680 that they have been too cautious. I think that they 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.959 have been too slow. Right that if anyone else in 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.720 this country, even if it was another political figure, namely 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:47.760 Hillary Clinton and her emails that were investigated over and 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.960 over again, and then right before the presidential election of 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.000 twenty sixteen, James call me announces, Oh, we're opening up 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:58.199 another investigation, right, Like that's Okay, that witch hunt, that 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.439 clear witch hunt, it's totally find to do over and 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:05.840 over again, which clearly harmed her political chances of becoming 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:09.919 president because of how close to the November election that 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.640 that action took place. And so for people that were 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:17.840 already against Hillary Clinton, all that gave them was another excuse. 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.200 Here we have a situation where Donald Trump, we didn't 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:25.960 even know when the FBI entered Mara Lago what case 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:30.400 we were talking about, right, because that's how many investigations 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:34.280 that Donald Trump is under. Right, And so the fact 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:39.560 to me that you had the minority leader, the you know, 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:44.600 the minority Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, openly threatening 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.520 Merritt Garland on social media on Twitter saying that you 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.960 better have your papers in order and you better clear 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:55.120 your schedule. It's like, so, what is your response here, 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.800 Just that everyone that is a Republican is above the law. 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:02.480 No one gets to be prosecuted for anything because if 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:06.400 they are, if there's even a hint of accountability or responsibility, 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.679 then it's a witch hunt. And so I ask you, 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.879 like there, to me, there's no way to win over 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.080 that twenty five thirty percent of the population that like 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:19.360 sees Donald Trump as a martyr and a god. Right, 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:23.119 So are we trying to appeal to those people and 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.879 think that any evidence that was going to be found 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.480 or is going to be found and announced is going 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.320 to be enough for these people not to think that 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:36.240 Donald Trump isn't a martyr. Again, it really depends what 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:37.919 the story that comes out of this is. I mean, 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.480 it's such a such a central tenant. I mean, obviously 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.399 it's ironic because in twenty sixteen Trump wrote to Power 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:50.879 on lock her Up, Lock her Up, but also illegally 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:56.439 exposed documents on email, like it's exactly exactly the same issue. 0:22:56.520 --> 0:23:01.639 Possibly and and but I mean that's such a tenant 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.320 of that of that thought is mistrust of the government, 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.399 weaponizing of the government, all those things. And so in 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:09.560 a way, it's just it's just gonna it's gonna strike 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.920 so deep in terms of just the anxiety of like 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.160 liberals turning the government against us. The government is biased, 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.600 the FBI is biased, all those kind of things, and 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:23.920 so you know, if they have a slam dunk case, 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.520 if this has been signed off on by people up 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.679 top and bottom, and this is something that is really big, 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:34.879 our whole conversation changes, right, Um, but I can't imagine, 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:36.800 I mean, to be honest, I can't imagine that it's 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:41.199 not I can't imagine that Donald Trump took documents that 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:44.520 were supposed to be part of the National Archives, right anything, 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.719 like there's no blaming of this. Oh, I had no idea, 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.280 sir that that box was you know, in my in 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:53.920 my safe that you need a fingerprint for, you know, like, 0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:58.560 so it isn't and this is something. This is twenty 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:02.479 twenty two. He took those documents, you know, January twenty 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.800 twenty one when he left the White House. So I 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:09.480 can't imagine that they wait this incredible amount of time 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:13.120 and they haven't crossed every tea and dotted every eye. 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:18.000 I'm sure that's right. I'm sure that's right. I'm yeah, 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.200 I'm sure that's right. I mean, and again, it's just 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:26.239 m But I guess the question, Jonathan is do you 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:30.560 believe just given everything that we know right now, We 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.199 know that we will find out more as the week's 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:38.840 turn into months with regard to what was the source 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:42.359 of this of this warrant, But do you feel that 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:49.680 violence is inevitable given what is transpiring, given just how 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:55.840 hopped up on lies and weaponry. Donald Trump's following is 0:24:55.920 --> 0:25:00.480 that regardless, violence is inevitable. I mean there were direct 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.960 there was people were just directly saying it last night. 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:07.920 So I mean the NRA was saying it, and so, um, 0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.080 you know, just the people were saying on Twitter, this 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.080 is going to lead to the next civil war, this 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.800 is going to need to the next interaction. So it's 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.600 not even what I think. People were directly threatening that 0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:23.400 last night on social media or very clearly implying it. 0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.639