1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA f Daily with 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: I want to start off by saying that I am 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: going to be taking the next couple of days off, 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: but do not worry and do not despair, because we 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: have a bunch of really timely interviews stacked up for 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: you for the rest of the week, and I will 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: be returning back live ish on Tuesday. But coming up 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: in the next couple of days that I am taking 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: some time off, we have our normal weekly conversation with 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: our friend doctor Jonathan Metzel. We have a couple of 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: interviews with some folks that you know and love, like 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: Kurt Bardela and Danielle Campamore, as well as our friend 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: the Reverend Mark Thompson from Make It Plain and Leslie Mack, 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: communications director for the front Line coming up in the 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: next couple of days. And so I want to start 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: off friends with obviously the major breaking news that broke 18 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: earlier this week with regard to Donald Trump and his 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: home and Mara Lago being searched by the FBI. This 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: is what I want to say about that. First of all, 21 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: it is apparent that Republicans continue to not give a 22 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: fuck about the legal system, about justice, about accountability, about 23 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: politics as usual, about democracy, about any of those things, 24 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 1: because the series of tweets that have come out from 25 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: people like Kevin McCarthy, Ted Cruz and others that essentially 26 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: are putting the Department of Justice and Democrats on notice 27 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: that they plan on when and if they take back 28 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the House in midterm elections, to open up a series 29 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: of investigations into Merrick Garland, into investigation, into an investigation. 30 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: And what I have to remind folks and remind Democrats 31 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: or that the Republicans are a rabid fucking cult, right, 32 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: they are a white supremist, anti democratic, fascist cult. And 33 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: if we do not continue to call out the violence 34 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: that they speak of, if we do not continue to 35 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: call out their anti democratic sentiments and just allow it 36 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: to be casually just business as usual, we are going 37 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: to find ourselves in major fucking trouble. As if we're 38 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: not already in major fucking trouble now, you would think 39 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: that I would be jumping up and down about the 40 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: fact that the FBI had, you know, was able to 41 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: obtain a warrant and searchie Donald Trump's home, to be honest, 42 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: until we find out what the contents of that search was, 43 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: what the contents of the warrant was, I am not 44 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: going to count my chickens before they hatch. I am 45 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: not going to pretend that this is going to automatically 46 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: turn into a series of indictments and that we are 47 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: going to see those that our treasonists have waged treason 48 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: misbehavior against this country, that they're actually going to be 49 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: held accountable. What I will say is that contrary to 50 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Republican belief and even some of the fucking talking points 51 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: that I'm hearing push back from Democrats, which are literally 52 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: uttering Donald Trump's own talking points as if we've learned 53 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: nothing over the last six years, is that one the 54 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: only way for the FBI to have attained a warrant 55 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: to search Donald Trump's property is by probable cause, and 56 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: probable cause is more than suspicion, right. It is having 57 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: to go to a judge and say that there is 58 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: evidence of criminal activity. And the only way for us 59 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: to be able to confirm right that there is criminal 60 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: activity is for us to be able to search the property. 61 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: And once we are able to then search and either 62 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: come up to the conclusion that nothing was found or 63 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: that exactly what it was that we were looking for 64 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: was found. So this is not a willy nilly just oh, 65 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: we've been sitting around for the last eighteen nineteen months 66 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, the Department of Justice 67 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: and the FBI has turned into some type of political 68 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: strong arm. That is not the case. How do we 69 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: know that because I myself have been on this show 70 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: and other people's shows calling out Merritt Garland's glacial fucking 71 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: pace right as it pertains to holding Donald Trump to account. 72 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: We understand right that this is an unprecedented time, it's 73 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: an unprecedented search. But what's not being followed up by 74 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: the media that this was an unprecedented fucking president who 75 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: was a criminal. It is not just like we didn't 76 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump so now he's being investigated on all 77 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: of these fronts. It's that, No, Donald Trump is a 78 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: known fucking criminal that has had multiple lawsuits against him 79 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: over his entire career, none of which have stuck, which 80 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: is why they referred to him as teflon Don. And 81 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: now he took that criming ass behavior to the White 82 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: House right and thought that he had insulated himself enough 83 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: with enough sycophants and enough people in different agencies to 84 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: do his bidding that he never thought for an instance 85 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: that he would ever face anybody in windbreakers at his 86 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: front doorstep, which he didn't because he was in fucking 87 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: New York, right. And why was Donald Trump in New York, Oh, 88 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: because his appeal against the New York Age's insistence on 89 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: him testifying before her in her fucking legal search of 90 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: a civil suit against Donald Trump and the Trump organization. Right. 91 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: So there's just so many things that are going on, 92 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: and it isn't like the Republicans pursuit of Hillary Clinton 93 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: for Benghazi or her emails or Hunter Biden's laptop. Right, 94 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: there is actual evidence broad out in the fucking open 95 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: evidence of Donald Trump's criming. But what we know is 96 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: that Republicans don't care, right, They want to weaponize any 97 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: agencies against people who have alternative ideologies and thoughts, meaning 98 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: those that believe in democracy they see as antipatriotic, and 99 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: those that are pro fucking orbon and Putin and Donald 100 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: Trump are the real patriots. That's the fucking Earth two 101 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: that they live on. So what I want people to 102 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: recognize is that this was indeed a major step by 103 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: the FBI and the Department of Justice. But let's be 104 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: clear that the other conversation that is being had that 105 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: I feel like it's not getting the kind of attention 106 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: that it should is the fact that people are very 107 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: fearful right that Donald Trump will once again weaponize his 108 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: white supremacist militia against the government the way he did 109 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: on January sixth, that all of instantly, what was coming 110 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: out of the tweets from the right wing, from the 111 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: fascist right wing, our talks about a civil war, or 112 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: talks about violent, or talks about shoot him up, or 113 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: talks about lock and load, right, because these people are 114 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: in fact itching for the opportunity to kill as many 115 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: people as they can. And the fact is is that 116 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: we are just not talking about this with the measure 117 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: of fucking like alarm bells that we should. This type 118 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: of language should not be shrugged off as this is 119 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: just you know, politics as usual. It is not. Donald 120 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: Trump has poisoned the well of our democracy. He did 121 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: so six years ago, and he has never let up. 122 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: And the fact is is that all of these people 123 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: who at one time six years ago had half a 124 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: working brain, have all become trump is bots, and they 125 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: are willing to do whatever it takes in order to 126 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: keep Donald Trump in power as their king. And so 127 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: if that means having an all out onslaught, if they 128 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: were to regain the gavels for mid terms against Democrats 129 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: and creating political prisoners of the people that they do 130 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: not like, that is what we are going to see 131 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: and that is what they are telling us, right. So 132 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: what did maya Angelous say? When people show you who 133 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: they are? Believe them right, Republicans consistently continue to tell 134 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: us who they are, continue to tell us who they 135 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: bow to, right, who they are in service to, and 136 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: it is not the American people, It is Donald Trump. 137 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: One of the questions that I asked this week on Twitter, however, 138 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: is this given the fact that we saw Kansas, a 139 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: conservative state, come out right and say absolutely not to 140 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: a ban on abortion in their state. With these reactions 141 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: now around Donald Trump being under investigation, which we already 142 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: know but now finally being quote unquote searched, right, our 143 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: Republican women who came out in Kansas, our Republican women 144 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: across the nation going to decide that going to bat 145 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump is more important than going to bat 146 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: for their bodily autonomy. Is it going to be the 147 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: decision that, oh my god, they've gone after my king, 148 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: my man, the pussy grabber in chief, that they would 149 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: rather go to the polls and pull a slot for 150 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: Republicans so that they can stand by their man. Right. 151 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: So that's the real question, because people are saying on 152 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: the news that, oh my god, this comes as such 153 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: a bad timing for Democrats. And I'm saying, why Democrats 154 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: have just passed an onslaught a fucking legislation that we 155 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: have not seen in this country in twenty and thirty 156 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: some odd goddamn years, And they did so while right 157 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: our intelligence agencies we're doing their job. You see, the 158 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: intelligence agencies not working in fucking tandem like they did 159 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: on the Trump administration, with this White House and with Congress. 160 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: Is exactly how government is supposed to fucking work. So 161 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: Democrats are able to get things done for the American 162 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: people while our intelligence agencies are making sure the people, 163 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: all people, including the former president of the United States, 164 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: are following the law. If I'm a Democrat right now 165 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: and I got a microphone in front of my face 166 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: and I'm running for reelection right, I'm saying Democrats are 167 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: showing proof is in the pudding that we can walk 168 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: and chew gum at the same time that we can 169 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: deliver for the American people in terms of climate change, 170 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: inflation reduction, jobs reports, in terms of being able to 171 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: combat some of the serious issues in this country while 172 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: also holding a former fucking criminal ass president accountable. I 173 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: don't understand what wouldn't make that a winning message. It 174 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: isn't about one or the other. It's the fact that 175 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: you have an entire Republican party that does not give 176 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: a fuck about the American people, that does not give 177 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: a fuck about offering up any policies or any legislations 178 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: that are about giving something to the American people. The 179 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: only thing that Republicans are interested in is taking things 180 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: away from the American people. Whether it is their ability 181 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: to collectively bargain, whether it is their ability to afford healthcare, 182 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: whether it is their ability to have bodily autonomy, whether 183 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: it is their ability to vote, whether it is their 184 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: ability to breathe fresh air and drink clean water. Everything 185 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: that Republicans do is taking away something as opposed to 186 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: offering it up, and that to me is the clear 187 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: message that Democrats need to be pounding into the American 188 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: consciousness from now until midterm elections and fucking beyond because 189 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: the threat, dear friends, is not going to be over 190 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: because midterm elections is over. These people are out for 191 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: blood and I mean that fucking literally. So if we 192 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: are not paying attention to what they are saying out loud, 193 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: then once again we are going to be caught off 194 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: guard and unprepared for what is coming next. And I 195 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: am telling you that my feeling in my gut right 196 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: now is that violence is imminent and people need to 197 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: be prepared for that. Coming up next my conversation with 198 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: our good friend, our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, 199 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: who will talk about this issue and what he is 200 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: seeing and hearing as it pertains to the escalation of 201 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: white domestic terrorism in this country, as well as bring 202 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: us up to date with where we are with not one, 203 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: not two, but the three viruses that are dangerous and 204 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: circulating around this country. That's coming up next. 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Folks, you 225 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: know that whenever I have the opportunity to speak each 226 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: and every week with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, 227 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: I am always thrilled. I am even more so thrilled 228 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: this week because my god, folks, something miraculous has happened, 229 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: and it is I don't know if hell has frozen over, 230 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: but Donald Trump's Moral Lago residence was in fact searched 231 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: by the FBI. Will not be using the word raided, 232 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: which is his language that the media then repeated over 233 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: and over again that they raided him and they broke 234 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: in to his safe. No, the FBI gets a warrant 235 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: from a judge and they have to show what is 236 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: the word probable cause in order for them to be 237 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: able to enter into anyone's residence, including a former president 238 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: of the United States Jonathan As the narratives started to 239 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: play out and again this was, you know, major breaking news, 240 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: and there's no there is no blueprint for this is 241 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: what is happening, and there hasn't been a blueprint for 242 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: what has been happening in America over the last couple 243 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: of years that you and I have been engaging in conversation. 244 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: But I want to say that as people were starting 245 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: to recognize the gravity of the situation, there were several 246 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: commentators who made reference to the fact that they were 247 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: concerned about what Donald Trump supporters were going to do 248 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: in response to the FBI searching Mara Lago, particularly being 249 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: concerned that Donald Trump would once again weaponize the white 250 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: supremacist organizations that he had sent to Capitol Hill to 251 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: go and hang his vice president, now turn around and 252 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: pose another threat to the government. Jonathan, The way that 253 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: the conversation was happening, though on cable news made it 254 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: seem like it was kind of like a shrug event. 255 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: And to me, we're talking about a former president of 256 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: the United States gathering his own militia once again in 257 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: order to turn it on the government. So, you know, 258 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: you get into the minds of these people and have 259 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: over the past several years. And I want to know 260 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: what you make of that narrative of that response that 261 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: this is where we are as a country, that we 262 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: are concerned about this man who we now know wanted 263 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: his generals because General Millie has a new book out, 264 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: as everybody does, that comes out of the Trump administration 265 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that he wanted his generals to 266 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: act like why can't my generals act like Hitler's generals? Right, 267 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: And again, we're talking about this in a very to me, 268 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: in a very dismissive way, as opposed to we're at 269 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: a five alarm emergency. So what did you what have 270 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: you been making of their responses to this search by 271 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: the FBI. I mean, it's such an evolving story, you know, 272 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: as we filmed this, and so I think the main issue, 273 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm certainly there were threatening tweets and messages coming out 274 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: yesterday across the kind of oathkeeper style spectrum. And there 275 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: were also threatening tweets coming out from the NRA official 276 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: NRA site and from people invoking the ruined case, the 277 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: Supreme Court case about about weapons, and so there were 278 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: some pretty real threats that were going around last night. 279 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: And I think really the story for me, I don't know. 280 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: I could easily be wrong about this. I'm not that 281 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: worried relatively speaking about the Oathkeepers taking over the country. 282 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: Maybe there'll be something horrible that happened, will happen, and 283 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: that seems I just think possibility. But I mean, I 284 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: think for me, the bigger concern is that they make 285 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Trump into a sympathetic figure, which will impact a lot 286 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: more people than just people who are in extremist groups. 287 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: And so I think that really for me, the question 288 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: is what are they going to uncover and what are 289 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: they uncovering from all this, and we don't know that 290 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: right now. If it's al Capone's vault, or if it's 291 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: something that's just technical and doesn't make emotional sense to people, 292 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: then I think it plays into the narrative that Trump 293 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: has been using all along, about the narrative of racial 294 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: resentment and victimhood. And you know, once he pretty recently 295 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: go he said I'm like the most oppressed person in 296 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: the country or something like that, And so I think 297 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: that's going to be the thing, is what's the story 298 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: based on what they find. But if it's some slam 299 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: dunk thing that people can understand, oh, yeah, this dude 300 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: broke the law, then I think it's a different story. 301 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: So I think it's really honestly TVD right now. But 302 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: I do think there's obviously a risk in this that 303 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: they basically rally everyone around Trump, or Trump gets in 304 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: you convicted of something that is a kind of minor 305 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: issue in terms of how people understand it, like oh, 306 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: he just took some papers or something like that. It 307 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: paves the way for just santists, but Trump remains a 308 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: powerful sympathetic figure. So I think there's a major political 309 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: story that's going to come out of this that will 310 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: impact the elections, It will impact the work of the 311 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: January sixth Committee, It will impact any possible collaboration on 312 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: other things that are pending before Congress, like marriage equality 313 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: and all these factors. And so I think that right now, 314 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: there's just there's there's so many variables from this, and 315 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: let's just hope that somebody really, really really thought this 316 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: through and that there is some kind of slam dunk 317 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: evidence that's going to come out of this, which I 318 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: think will make things a lot more It'll it'll make 319 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: a lot more sense to people. But I don't know 320 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: is that sense also? Yeah? But but yeah, because here's 321 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: my thing is that, like this, this has been my 322 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: problem with the Department of Justice, the FBI, and all 323 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: of the our like security agencies, is that I think 324 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: that they have been too cautious. I think that they 325 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: have been too slow. Right that if anyone else in 326 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: this country, even if it was another political figure, namely 327 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and her emails that were investigated over and 328 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: over again, and then right before the presidential election of 329 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, James call me announces, Oh, we're opening up 330 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: another investigation, right, Like that's Okay, that witch hunt, that 331 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: clear witch hunt, it's totally find to do over and 332 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: over again, which clearly harmed her political chances of becoming 333 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: president because of how close to the November election that 334 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: that action took place. And so for people that were 335 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: already against Hillary Clinton, all that gave them was another excuse. 336 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: Here we have a situation where Donald Trump, we didn't 337 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: even know when the FBI entered Mara Lago what case 338 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: we were talking about, right, because that's how many investigations 339 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is under. Right, And so the fact 340 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: to me that you had the minority leader, the you know, 341 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: the minority Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, openly threatening 342 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: Merritt Garland on social media on Twitter saying that you 343 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: better have your papers in order and you better clear 344 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: your schedule. It's like, so, what is your response here, 345 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: Just that everyone that is a Republican is above the law. 346 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: No one gets to be prosecuted for anything because if 347 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: they are, if there's even a hint of accountability or responsibility, 348 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: then it's a witch hunt. And so I ask you, 349 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: like there, to me, there's no way to win over 350 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: that twenty five thirty percent of the population that like 351 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: sees Donald Trump as a martyr and a god. Right, 352 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: So are we trying to appeal to those people and 353 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: think that any evidence that was going to be found 354 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: or is going to be found and announced is going 355 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: to be enough for these people not to think that 356 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump isn't a martyr. Again, it really depends what 357 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: the story that comes out of this is. I mean, 358 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: it's such a such a central tenant. I mean, obviously 359 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: it's ironic because in twenty sixteen Trump wrote to Power 360 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: on lock her Up, Lock her Up, but also illegally 361 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: exposed documents on email, like it's exactly exactly the same issue. 362 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: Possibly and and but I mean that's such a tenant 363 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: of that of that thought is mistrust of the government, 364 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: weaponizing of the government, all those things. And so in 365 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: a way, it's just it's just gonna it's gonna strike 366 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: so deep in terms of just the anxiety of like 367 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: liberals turning the government against us. The government is biased, 368 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: the FBI is biased, all those kind of things, and 369 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: so you know, if they have a slam dunk case, 370 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: if this has been signed off on by people up 371 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: top and bottom, and this is something that is really big, 372 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: our whole conversation changes, right, Um, but I can't imagine, 373 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, I can't imagine that it's 374 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: not I can't imagine that Donald Trump took documents that 375 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: were supposed to be part of the National Archives, right anything, 376 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: like there's no blaming of this. Oh, I had no idea, 377 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: sir that that box was you know, in my in 378 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: my safe that you need a fingerprint for, you know, like, 379 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: so it isn't and this is something. This is twenty 380 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: twenty two. He took those documents, you know, January twenty 381 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: twenty one when he left the White House. So I 382 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: can't imagine that they wait this incredible amount of time 383 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: and they haven't crossed every tea and dotted every eye. 384 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's right. I'm sure that's right. I'm yeah, 385 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's right. I mean, and again, it's just 386 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: m But I guess the question, Jonathan is do you 387 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: believe just given everything that we know right now, We 388 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: know that we will find out more as the week's 389 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: turn into months with regard to what was the source 390 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: of this of this warrant, But do you feel that 391 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: violence is inevitable given what is transpiring, given just how 392 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: hopped up on lies and weaponry. Donald Trump's following is 393 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: that regardless, violence is inevitable. I mean there were direct 394 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: there was people were just directly saying it last night. 395 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: So I mean the NRA was saying it, and so, um, 396 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, just the people were saying on Twitter, this 397 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: is going to lead to the next civil war, this 398 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: is going to need to the next interaction. So it's 399 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: not even what I think. People were directly threatening that 400 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: last night on social media or very clearly implying it. 401 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: And so I do think, of course, the risk is 402 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: is very very very high. How they play this right 403 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: now is going to be really the utmost importance, which 404 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: of course they know, of course they know. Um. But 405 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: again I think that the other issue is going to 406 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: be this is this is a week where Biden the 407 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: Democrats had just passed like the you know, their science signature. Yeah, 408 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: and and the fact that Bidenen apparently didn't know about 409 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: this raid and that so the timing here is not 410 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: great for the Democrats, I'll say. But see, I disagree, Yeah, 411 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: I actually disagree, and I'll tell you why. Because the 412 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: Republican narrative has always been that this is a witch 413 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: hunt and nothing else is getting done for the American 414 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: people because the entire attention of the Democratic Party has 415 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: been about taking down Donald Trump. And here is a 416 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: clear example of the fact that no, no right government 417 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: actually can work and we can walk and chew gum 418 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: at the same time, we can work on behalf of 419 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: the American people and have our security and justice agencies 420 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: be doing their work right. So I think that if 421 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: you are, if the Democrats are smart, right, they can 422 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: continue to focus on their monumental achievements that are being 423 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: signed into law this week and saying like we're continuing 424 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: to work for the American people while our agencies that 425 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: were hollowed out by the Trump administration are doing their 426 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: work right. We have two parallels. But let me just 427 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: say I of course completely truth and and again I 428 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: also think people who broke the law should be finished. Um. 429 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: You know, just like I agree, what a crazy idea. 430 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: I know it's nuts. Um. But but but but I 431 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: would say that for me Again, I'll let me just 432 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: articulate the two caveats I'm going to give, which is 433 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: why it's so important, what the purpose of this is, 434 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: How they how they talk about it, how they message it. Um, 435 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: beyond just the obviously, you know, I agree like people 436 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: no matter what they say, Um, you know, they could 437 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: they could. There are many unsolved cases they could find 438 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: it is safe and it still wouldn't make any difference. Um. 439 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: But but I would say that the two points are 440 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: number one. I mean, think about what's happened over the 441 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: last couple of months, Like the Wall Street Journal came 442 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: out against Trump, the New York Post came out against Trump. 443 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: Trump had become a liability for many relatively centrist within 444 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: the context of GOP politics um um voices. And so 445 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: the question is, are those people is being anti Trump 446 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: all of a sudden begin to become intenable. You're going 447 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: to push those people back towards seeing Trump as a 448 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: sympathetic character or will this be like, oh man, there's 449 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: another example of why we can't have Trump as president. 450 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: So I think that's really issue number one as far 451 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: as as far as how I see it. A number two. 452 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: The Democrats have their rallying cry right abortion has been 453 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this Indiana thing is atrocious. It's it's it's 454 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: beyond atrocious. And so the rallying cry of women are 455 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: going to come out to vote and you kick the wrong, 456 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: hornessness and all those kind of things. Will this become 457 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: the GOP's version of the rally the troops to the 458 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: polls that counters that, And so for those are the 459 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: two bigger caveats that I'm thinking about. And again it 460 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: really matters what they found and how they articulated, and 461 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: so this is still playing out. But for me, those 462 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: are my two areas of concern. Yeah, and I think 463 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: that I would, you know, with regard to Indiana and 464 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: these other states that are following suit with the most 465 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: egregious and disgusting anti abortion laws, that I don't think 466 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: that the grievances of one man is going to trump 467 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: women and people with uterusists not having bodily autonomy. I 468 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: don't think GOP women are going to be like, oh 469 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: my god, you know what I care most about Donald Trump, 470 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, being like the end all be all for 471 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: the for the Republican Party. And it doesn't matter that 472 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: I can't access an abortion or my daughter or my 473 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: son's right. Who are you know who who are involved 474 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: in situations that require them? And so I just don't 475 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: see in my opinion, and again, we will watch this 476 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: play out that people's own right issue bodily autotomy, freedom 477 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: and liberty is literally pun intended going to Trump. What 478 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: is happening personally to Donald Trump with his criminal activity 479 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: as we get to the polls switching gears. I mean, 480 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: I agree with you. They just it's just like there 481 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: are so many different logics that play. I mean, I 482 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw a sepack like the guy 483 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: in the fake present cage, the guy in the fake 484 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: presit cage doing the kind of performance art of like 485 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: sympathy for the January six people, and turned out that 486 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: guy the artist himself, I think it's from me. Yeah, 487 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: he was. Now these are the orition he turned state's 488 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: evidence against others. Yeah, So, so I don't think like 489 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: the logical stream is totally at play here. So I again, 490 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: I just think, I just think that the narrative is 491 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: the fight now is over the narrative of this and so, 492 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: and I think that's super important. That my point is 493 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: not to counter what you're saying. Obviously, oh yeah, I 494 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: got it, But I think the fight now is over 495 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: the narrative. And that's why I think it's it's so 496 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: important not only that they had the goods, but that 497 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: the narrative they're going to tell now is something that 498 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: is understandable to people. Um, okay, switching gears with a 499 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: few minutes that we have a left, want to provide 500 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 1: an update on where we are with the bio viral 501 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: attacks that are happening in this country the weirdest damn time, man. 502 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so I tweeted this last night and 503 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: I was just like, we are living in it. Like now, 504 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: I understand when people say the phrase extraordinary times, because 505 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: this is I feel, this is. This has got a 506 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: cap every other moment in history. This has got a 507 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: cap World War two. I mean, there's just so much 508 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: going on. I wouldn't want ever to be president of 509 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: the United States during this time. But here we have 510 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: now not only COVID, not only monkey pox, which whose 511 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: initial narrative just completely botched the response to how we 512 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: should have been talking about monkey pox. And thank you 513 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: Jonathan for last week making the case that yeah, this 514 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: is actually moving more like smallpox, like an STD, which 515 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: is how the media and you know, and other initial 516 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: reportings were coming out that it's like, oh no, this 517 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: is in the gay mail community, so no one else 518 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: needs to be concerned. And you're like, mm, but if 519 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: you're using a blanket or a shirt, or putting your 520 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: arm on surfaces that were touched, like, that's not sex, 521 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: but that's close contact. Or kids in daycare or kids 522 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: in daycare or college campuses, as you had brought up 523 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: as well last week. Now it's nineteen fifty and we 524 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: got polio that is making its way back, Jonathan, how 525 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: how does that happen? Well, we human progresses is not linear. 526 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: Turns out, we defeated smallpox, we defeated polio. It was 527 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: it was like landing a man on the moon, right, 528 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: but he had two polio vaccines um a tenuated vaccine, 529 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: a live vaccine, oral injectable. It was like the race 530 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: to put the first man on the moon. And there 531 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: were there were you know, the Salk vaccine, the saving vaccine, 532 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Like we we won that fight. It was it was 533 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: a moment for the victory of science and the victory 534 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: of American ingenuity and the victory of public health. And 535 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: what you do is then you vaccinate people, and it's 536 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 1: super effective when you vaccinate people against an illness that 537 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: was just a catastrophe for so many people, not only 538 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: because it's potentially lethal, but because when it wasn't lethal, 539 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: it impacted your motor function for the rest of your life. 540 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: M But when you don't get vaccinated, you don't have 541 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: that protection. And so the question is why aren't why 542 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: aren't people getting vaccinated? And believe it or not, it's 543 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: not just an American story and fact. When I first 544 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: heard about this with concern, it was happening in the 545 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: Middle East about four or five months ago, where Israel 546 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: scrambled because people of very low socioeconomic status we're having polio, 547 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: which was unheard of, unheard of, But it turned out 548 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: they didn't have access to healthcare or to immunization. It 549 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: wasn't just that they were like rapid anti vaxers, it's 550 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: that they didn't have potential healthcare. And it's the same 551 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: story here in the United States that we're going to 552 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: see people who don't have access to healthcare, who can't 553 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: afford it, who don't have a clinic or something like that. 554 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: There are apparently hundreds or more cases in New York, 555 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: in the state of New York, and so this is 556 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: not just going to be a red blue thing. But 557 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: when people don't have healthcare and they don't get immunized 558 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: according to schedule this is the story, and so it's 559 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: a symptom of a bigger collapse of our healthcare system, 560 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: and particularly of our preventative healthcare system. And unfortunately, I 561 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: think this story is just going to grow because our 562 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: system is overwhelmed, it's ineffective, there's so much mistrust right 563 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: now anyway, But this is a this is a flashing, flashing, 564 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: flashing red flag because this really should not happen. Well, 565 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: let me ask you this too. Didn't we stop immune 566 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: and immunizing people against polio because we thought that it 567 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: was eradicated. Like I'm trying to figure out whether or 568 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: not I was vaccinated for polio. Yeah I was, okay, Yeah, No, 569 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: The thing is we stopped. We stopped because there's there's 570 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: still more pollio around. But we're gonna have to scramble 571 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: scramble that front. Smallpox is another thing to keep in mind, right, 572 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: we stopped I think in nineteen seventy three, I think, 573 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: or sometime around then for smallpox because there was no 574 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: more smallpox. But it turned out people like me who 575 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: got the smallpox vaccine when I was a kid, because 576 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: there still was the potent, so had some immunity. But 577 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna have to go back to that regiment. 578 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately, the issue is think about how we 579 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: got there, right, We had tents all over the country 580 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: and nurses and healthcare everything, and it was a national thing, 581 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: and everybody was like showing their arm after getting vaccinated 582 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: stuff like that, like kind of like it was in 583 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: the beginning with COVID when the first set a vaccine. 584 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: But to stop this thing, you're going to need a 585 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: similar level of investment and I don't see that happening 586 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: right now. We can't even pass funding to get the 587 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: next COVID vaccine. So this is a this is a moment, 588 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, Honestly, I agree that this is a moment. Yeah, 589 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I wanted to leave on a 590 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: good note, but I can't think of one. Um, well, 591 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: it's it's funny, you know. It's funny to say that, 592 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: because like I don't know if it's me everybody else, 593 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: but like I do Twitter a lot, and like every 594 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: other tweet now is some funny story with animals. Are 595 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: you getting that also or is it just like maybe 596 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: because I started clicking on it because I'm like, oh, 597 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: look at that cute little panda who can like play 598 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: tic tac toe or something like that. But but I 599 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: am getting a lot of cheerful animal videos on my 600 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: Twitter feed, so it's like doom death, doom death. Oh 601 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: that dog knows how to use an ATM. How cute, 602 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, something like that. So yeah, everyone needs to 603 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: have some ballet during these times. As always, doctor Jonathan Mets, 604 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: so we appreciate you, and you know, God knows what 605 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: virus will be talking about next week, but you know, 606 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: we'll just roll the dice. I'm looking forward to it. 607 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 1: That is it for me today, Dear friends on Woke 608 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: a app as always, power to the people and to 609 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: all of the people. Power, get woke and stay woke 610 00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: as fuck. Get a behind the scenes look at Comedy 611 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: Central's The Daily Show on Beyond the Scenes, an original 612 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: podcast from The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. 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