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Speaker 1: here on this League Uncut. Welcome to this League uncut.

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Speaker 1: Rule of twenty four hour NBA News. This is you,

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Speaker 1: Chris Haines.

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Speaker 2: It's time, work's time, it's some time.

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Speaker 1: This League Uncut is underway and on fire. This should

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Speaker 1: be a good one. Welcome in everyone to the latest

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Speaker 1: edition of this League Uncut. Curiously, due to circumstances beyond

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Speaker 1: So that was before I that was before my travel woes.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you this, don you know I spent

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they completely unraveled, for sure. They had that game.

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Speaker 3: Draymond Green's first game back from his suspension. Yeah, as

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Speaker 3: we talk about the n season Tournament D So it

431
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Speaker 3: was cool, like there was it was some point during

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Speaker 3: the game I forgot. I think it was the second quarter. Yes,

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00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: I do believe it was the second quarter. It was

434
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Speaker 3: a timeout. So I'm sitting standing behind the Wars bitch i'

435
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 3: this day, and I saw GP talking to his the

436
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Speaker 3: coaching staff, and he started asking them, Hey, who won

437
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: that Minnesota game? And they said Minnesota won by three,

438
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: and GP was like, okay, cool, then we gotta beat

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00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: the Kings by twelve. And so just to be there

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00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: and see, like when the Warriors knew what happened with

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Speaker 3: Minnesota and when they knew how many points they needed

442
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: to beat the Kings by in order to advance in

443
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: this in season tournament was pretty cool. They didn't do it,

444
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: by the way, so it would have been kind of weird,

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Speaker 3: like Stein because I'll get to Warriors drumm in a minute.

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Speaker 3: But so the Warriors could have beat they could beat

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Speaker 3: they if they beat the Kings that night, say they

448
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: beat them by four, it's kind of a bitter sweet

449
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: you win, Okay, Yeah, it's good to win the game.

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Speaker 3: But the Kings would have still moved on in the

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00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: nd season tournament and awards would have been eliminated from it.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of weird there, weird dynamic right there. But

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Speaker 3: with that being said, the game, you know, Steve Kerr

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Speaker 3: is riding with his guys, Dremon, Clay, Steph and he's

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Speaker 3: holding on. And the question that everybody keeps posing is

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00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: is he holding on too long? Meaning is he not

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Speaker 3: giving other guys a shot? Is he you know, like

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Speaker 3: Klay Thompson for one, we've seen Clay. You know, you

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Speaker 3: can tell he's getting agitated by this dialogue. But I

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Speaker 3: will say this, Moses Moody came in there in that

461
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: fourth quarter, came ahead, back to back threes. He he he

462
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: really gave the Warriors something. He gave him some life

463
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: and he got subved out. Right after that, Steve Kerr

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Speaker 3: went back to his guys and so you know, those

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Speaker 3: are the things that Steve Kurr, That's that's what he

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00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: has the way. I definitely understand, you know, going with

467
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: the proven commodity, but at some point all proven commodities

468
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: start to diminish it then you have to integrate new blood.

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Speaker 3: Is that time now or is it later? I don't know,

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Speaker 3: so you know, it's a Steve Kerr has a big

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Speaker 3: dilemma in his hands. Man. It's tough over there. And

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Speaker 3: and Dremond, you know, he didn't help the situation in

473
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: the game picking up a tech, picked up a few

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Speaker 3: unnecessary fouls, trying to be aggressive, and just being frustrated

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Speaker 3: with the officials. So it's a lot going on over there, man.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I spoke with I'm I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: mention mention them right now because it was off the

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Speaker 3: record conversation, but I spoke to a few key Warriors

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00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: players and they still have hope, like they still got

480
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: the ultimate confidence that they can figure this thing out. Uh.

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Speaker 3: They were harping on the fact that Chris Paul and

482
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: Raymond have yet to play with each other significant time

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Speaker 3: in this regular season, and so you know, there's things

484
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: that they said they feel like that they have yet

485
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: to tap into, and so they want to get a

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00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: chance to do that without the injuries or suspension. So

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00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: you know, we'll see, We'll give them another fifteen games

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Speaker 3: or so and see where things stand. But you know,

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00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: Johnathan Kaminga, he's somebody that's itching to play, you know,

490
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: And Steve Kurr got to try to find minutes for him.

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00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's tough all around over there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now Chris Paul is dealing with a leg

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Speaker 1: injury that has him out of the lineup. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it has been. And after such a promising start

495
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: to the season last season, the Warriors couldn't win a

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00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: road game. I mean, their road record was only. The

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00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: only teams worse on the road were the top three

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Speaker 1: teams in the lottery, And it was stunning given what

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Speaker 1: a great road team the Warriors had been for nearly

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Speaker 1: a decade with their championship cast together. And this season

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Speaker 1: they started well on the road. It looked like they

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00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: were off to a good start, and then it unraveled

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00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: again and Steph missed a little time with a knee issue,

504
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson struggles well documented, Andrew Wiggins struggles even more pronounced.

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00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: Draymond Green essentially missed six games because he was ejected

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Speaker 1: so early in the Rudy Gobert choke hold game and

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Speaker 1: then suspended for five games. And it's just, yeah, I

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00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: was really curious figuring that you would get some good

509
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: time with these guys playing in Sacramento your home city now,

510
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: and what you know, I mean, they've got to be

511
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: shaken by this all I mean, and just you know,

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00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: it's everybody's talking about it. And how are the Warriors

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00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: going to rebound? And can they rebound with the roster

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Speaker 1: they have?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? With GP you know he has that you know,

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00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: suffering a torn right calf in that game. Stein, when

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Speaker 3: he limped out the game, I followed him to the

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Speaker 3: locker room and he, man, what is it? I'm trying

519
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: to think it's it's it's this machine, I think I

520
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: said right on the air. But it's this machine that

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00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: it's a tank actually, and it holds all the heating paths.

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Speaker 3: It's called a hold on I wrote it. I wrote

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Speaker 3: down it's called a hydro collator, hydro colator tank. Have

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00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: you have you have you ever said that word before? Stein?

525
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: Hydro colator.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of it.

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Speaker 3: So what it is. It's a tank that holds these

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00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: heating paths, and it's the heating paths that players put

529
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: on their put on their body during the game. Leg

530
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: But anyways, it's this, it's a still tank that's right

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00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: right sits right outside the visiting locker room and the

532
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 3: Kings Arena, and he went and punched that thing hard

533
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: Stein right before he went in the locker room. He

534
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: just punched it with his right fist. And so that's

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Speaker 3: when I knew, like, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just listed up a Chattanooga hydro collator, like

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00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: a huge it's a huge rolling refrigerator.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he punched that thing full for Stein before he

539
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 3: went into that locker room, and that's when I knew, Okay,

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00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: this is not This is not just a spraying ankle.

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Speaker 3: It's just not It's not a hamstring, you know, this

542
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,959
Speaker 3: this is something. So you know, he was right. He

543
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: knew it was he knew it was pretty severe. So

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00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: and GP has been playing well. Man. He he's one

545
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: of the glue pieces to the Golden State Warriors, so

546
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: having to deal with him, having to deal with Chris

547
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: is Paul, Chris Paul's situation. So the Wars that they're

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00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: up against.

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00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: It no question about it. When you talk about teams

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00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: that are under the microscope league wide as we speak,

551
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: teams that everyone is talking about and looking at and

552
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: wondering how they're going to move forward, how they're going

553
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: to get out of their current situation. Chicago is definitely

554
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: one of those teams. With the Bulls off to such

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00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: a miserable start, and are they going to be able

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00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: to trade Zach Lvine. I mean, it's amazing this week

557
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: seeing the Bulls with one of the league's four or

558
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: five worst records, far worse than even the most doomsday

559
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: projections for the Bulls. And what's going to happen? How

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00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: are the Bulls going to deal with is Detroit what

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00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: they're going through now? Fifteen losses in a row, fifteen

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00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: consecutive l's in Detroit since a two to one start,

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Speaker 1: and this is a team that went four and twenty

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Speaker 1: six after January to finish last season. This season in Motown,

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00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: healthy Cade Cunningham, rookie flashes from Asar Thompson, one of

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Speaker 1: this show's favorite rookies, the arrival of Mani Williams to

567
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: lend leadership and authority, and the Pistons are winless in November.

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00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: And yes, the Warriors, for all their championship glory over

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00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: the past decade because of the way things have begun

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00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: in Golden State. Lots of discussion this week about where

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Speaker 1: the Warriors are and where they're headed. We will continue

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Speaker 1: to delve into all these stories in upcoming episodes of

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Speaker 1: This League Uncut. Please remember to rate, review, and subscribe

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Chris and I will be back very soon.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully I will start sounding closer to normal, even though

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Speaker 1: my normal doesn't sound all that great. But we did it.

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00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: We're back together again. We did it. Chris Haynes survived

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of a rambunctious Thanksgiving than he

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00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: was hoping for Christmas. Fast approaching in season tournament Semis

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Speaker 1: and Finals in Vegas, fast approaching the G League Showcase

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00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: in Orlando, fast approaching. So December is almost here. Lots

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Speaker 1: to come, lots to discuss, Chris Haynes. I hope the

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Speaker 1: rest of the holiday season goes smoother.

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Speaker 2: For you, sir.

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00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: Well it's up today, because if not, I'm prepared to

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00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: have the same action and the same response.

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Speaker 1: To will they be listening to this podcast to know

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Speaker 1: that you've now taken your dismay national.

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00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: I am prepared for this to get out, and you

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00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm up for. The smoke man.

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00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: Remind me not to get in your doghouse, all right,

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Speaker 1: everyone that is gonna do it for this edition of

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Speaker 1: This League Uncut, Stein Haynes signing off. Talk to you

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Speaker 1: again soon.

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Speaker 2: And that'll do it for us. See you next time.

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Speaker 2: This League Uncut is an iHeartRadio production

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