Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black Brown ambition, ambious, ambition, ambition, ambition.
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Speaker 1: think it's the pandemic. She was having a hard time
Speaker 1: because you know, people weren't going outside and trying to
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Speaker 3: Well, took off that.
Speaker 1: She more than rebounded and bounced all the way back.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I her colors are the best one. They last.
Speaker 3: Yeah, colors are drinking you see all this?
Speaker 1: Yes, right, so Mandy has a water bottle that she's
Speaker 1: drinking out. I really have to say, like the colors,
Speaker 1: like when I put them on, like whenever, I would
Speaker 1: say eighty percent at a time, when I'm on TV
Speaker 1: or whatever, I'm wearing her color because my makeup bars
Speaker 1: can't always come with me and they will last the
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Speaker 1: she's sold in targeted and I think CVS, CBS. She's
Speaker 1: just swaying. She's just like a sassy, beautiful black woman
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Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome. Well did you have a good B
Speaker 3: Day weekend? I think there might have been another holiday
Speaker 3: this weekend, but it was it was a national holiday.
Speaker 3: Like I actually wished people a happy b Day all
Speaker 3: day I had. And this is I have such a
Speaker 3: heartbreaking story. I feel like every time her everyone. Once
Speaker 3: in a while, I give you like a Mandy adventure
Speaker 3: Adventures of Mandy, where like it is just a clusterfuck
Speaker 3: and the everything goes wrong. And if you're if you
Speaker 3: have kids at home, with little kids, you know, the
Speaker 3: morning routine of getting out the door fed, everything packed up,
Speaker 3: you know things, get the bottles for the baby, and
Speaker 3: get the lunch, and don't forget the water bottle, not
Speaker 3: that water bottle, the new water bottle, not that Yoda one,
Speaker 3: the Yoda one that's metal, not plastic water bottle. Anyway,
Speaker 3: and it's every day is different. Today we got there
Speaker 3: like thirty minutes late, you know whatever. It's after spring break.
Speaker 3: But on Friday, I booked myself a ninety minute deep
Speaker 3: tissue massage in a ninety minute facial because the skin
Speaker 3: has been just looking haggard. And I was so excited
Speaker 3: plus the new Cowboy Carter album jopped, and I made
Speaker 3: sure I booked the nice spot that's like a little
Speaker 3: like I don't know, like a thirty minute drive away,
Speaker 3: and I thought, ooh, I'll listen to one half on
Speaker 3: the way there, because you know the album time is
Speaker 3: like one minute, one hour and seventeen minutes. Yes, I
Speaker 3: had to be sure I could squeeze it in. And
Speaker 3: then on the way back I listened and maybe I
Speaker 3: listened to it during I don't know. I was gonna
Speaker 3: vibe and it was going to be such an amazing day.
Speaker 3: Drop off the baby drop off. Rio walk up to
Speaker 3: the door and they were like, oh, ma'am, is he
Speaker 3: here for no, there's no school today. It's good Friday
Speaker 3: and we're in a Catholic church and it's closed, so
Speaker 3: you could take your adorable son and good luck too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I was devastated, and Rio and sweet Rio, He's like, Mommy,
Speaker 3: don't be sad. I go to your massage. I could go,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you could if it was like a
Speaker 3: thirty minute massage, but I can't. It was going to
Speaker 3: be a three hour, you know, minimum experience. I can't.
Speaker 3: There's not enough YouTube in the world to keep him.
Speaker 3: And I also didn't want that to be his day,
Speaker 3: just like ugh, and then I wouldn't be able to
Speaker 3: really relax. So the whole day was fudged, but we
Speaker 3: ended up going It was every every hour, so I
Speaker 3: just wanted to cry. Also, I was out like three
Speaker 3: hundred dollars because yeah, yeah, because I canceled like forty
Speaker 3: five minutes before and there. It's just what a disaster.
Speaker 3: I keep getting the emails like, how would you rate
Speaker 3: our services? I'm like, the services I did not get,
Speaker 3: but that I paid for it's great. But anyway, so
Speaker 3: and I was so frustrated because I didn't get to
Speaker 3: really listen to Beyonce the new album Cowboy Carter until
Speaker 3: the next morning. But it has been because I wanted
Speaker 3: to be alone, like in peace, you know, and rio
Speaker 3: is just anyway. But I finally did and I'd be
Speaker 3: listening to it non stop. It's been the soundtrack to
Speaker 3: my weekend and I yeah, whatever, there was another holiday
Speaker 3: this weekend, but it was fantastic. We all got this
Speaker 3: in his Easter basket. I'm holding my book. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: going to realize that Easter Buddy is not real if
Speaker 3: I keep doing this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: First of all, I remember when I took I took
Speaker 1: so for Carol's, my sister, her fortieth birthday. I was
Speaker 1: doing a was going to a conference in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: I said, come and this will be like your birthday presents.
Speaker 1: So she came and Ameliar, her daughter, whose birthday was
Speaker 1: on Friday, Beyonce Day day. She lost her tooth when
Speaker 1: we were away, and my sister Tracy was watching them,
Speaker 1: and she was like, what are we gonna do? Auntie
Speaker 1: Chichi that's Tracy's nickname. The tooth fairy is in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: Please give me that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean real, really, he's like, ooh, a basket
Speaker 3: full of stuff. I like this, but he didn't ask
Speaker 3: too many questions. But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know how long had to put the confused her. Well,
Speaker 1: she woke up to Monday. She was like wait a minute,
Speaker 1: wa a minute. Like Puerto Rico. She was like, girl'll
Speaker 1: try somebody else. Just give me my money. Just you
Speaker 1: gotta just.
Speaker 3: Put heyb a fan. We're gonna take a quick break
Speaker 3: and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of our face. I know
Speaker 1: you you can't pick your favorite and I don't even
Speaker 1: have it. Oh, so there's some ones that like instantly,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes because there's so many songs, it's like,
Speaker 1: what is it twenty seven song? How many songs?
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is twenty seven tracks, not songs. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because there's the interludes with like Willie Nelson and Dolly
Speaker 3: Parks Carton and Linda Martel. Yeah, so I feel like
Speaker 3: it totally be twenty songs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and do those people in there, because she said,
Speaker 1: try somebody else your greats think I'm great.
Speaker 3: You know, she's exactly. Yeah, she's like the king and
Speaker 3: Queen of country. I mean, Willie and Dolly.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you all you know you love you
Speaker 1: will you know the great think I'm great? You know.
Speaker 1: The way she did that said the level of patty
Speaker 1: is just.
Speaker 3: The level of like and you know what, it's that
Speaker 3: classic like in order to do in order to be received, well,
Speaker 3: you have to you can't. There's no margin for error
Speaker 3: as a black woman, like you have to get the
Speaker 3: white the great white co sign, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Although I don't think it was as trife like as
Speaker 3: I think she really did it from a place of like,
Speaker 3: I respect these icons and there was oh but this
Speaker 3: was a black and this is a Beyonce album. I
Speaker 3: really get it when she said, this is not a
Speaker 3: country album, It's a Beyonce album. And I'm just so grateful.
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful to be living in the time of Beyonce.
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like everybody who came up
Speaker 3: in the eighties, like in their twenties and really got
Speaker 3: to be there for the Michael era, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, the Michael Jackson era and the Prince era.
Speaker 3: And people keep saying that, oh, she's our generations, Michael
Speaker 3: and Prince and all that, and I do and Tina Turner,
Speaker 3: which is, yes, totally fair, but we are so fortunate
Speaker 3: because she is so healthy that I don't think she's
Speaker 3: gonna die, like at a very young age, Like she's
Speaker 3: not going to ode. And I'm just like, in the
Speaker 3: body of work, we all know, like there were the
Speaker 3: classic albums from these artists and they were huge and
Speaker 3: they were the soundtrack of a generation. But I feel
Speaker 3: like she's the soundtrack of like two generations now because
Speaker 3: she still keeps putting out incredible bodies of work, like.
Speaker 1: ABC Easier Jackson. This is true, you know, Michael's right,
Speaker 1: Michael's like, hola, hold on, I'm gonna let you cook.
Speaker 3: But okay, in his last couple of albums like where
Speaker 3: are they giving.
Speaker 1: For a no no no no, but think about you
Speaker 1: have to think from from ABC all the way too
Speaker 1: bad like that, you know, and that's when he was
Speaker 1: like fully grown but you I mean, he gave you
Speaker 1: thriller which had like every single one was the number one,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm not saying obviously Beyonce is amazing,
Speaker 1: But what I am saying is that like, yes, that
Speaker 1: like and similar to Beyonce, because one day we'll be
Speaker 1: looking back and being like Wall, whoa Wall. Don't forget
Speaker 1: Danky's child, right, she was a child. She so we
Speaker 1: got to see her. You know, we haven't even seen her.
Speaker 1: I don't think at her peak. But okay, so so
Speaker 1: far the three songs that make me say yes, obviously
Speaker 1: we have to stand for Jolene. Okay, Joline. First of all,
Speaker 1: what I love about Joelne is that she said play
Speaker 1: with somebody else, because if you listen to the Dolly
Speaker 1: Parton version, nothing like Dolly Parton's version, very beautiful obviously,
Speaker 1: but in that version, like Dolly Parton is saying, please
Speaker 1: don't steal my man, and Beyonce said, girl, pick somebody
Speaker 1: off before. I think, coming from a space of like,
Speaker 1: you know, for your own good, you know, like don't
Speaker 1: waste your time. She said, don't don't come from my
Speaker 1: man because we're not we're not pleading, we're not asking.
Speaker 1: It's happening like do you want to I'm still a
Speaker 1: creole from Louisiana. Okay, So she said, yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: want you don't want none of this, so that I
Speaker 1: loved the intonation. But plus, Joline is just like iconic,
Speaker 1: like Dollie obviously iconic. And then also to Miley. Miley
Speaker 1: Cyrus did a version which was also really beautiful. But
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus's version was very like the.
Speaker 3: Same lyricism to the original.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, but but no, Beyonce said, oh no,
Speaker 1: we're actually not asking. You could just see her bat
Speaker 1: in hand, like, yeah, did you hear what I said? Jolie,
Speaker 1: come here if you want.
Speaker 3: Julie, Julie. I love the beginning where it's like like
Speaker 3: the echoes Jolie, and not only that, but the sequel
Speaker 3: to Joline Daughter right after that, like I don't know
Speaker 3: if you listen to that enough. But I did not
Speaker 3: run to Joline because I figured it would just be
Speaker 3: a remake. And then I heard Blackbird, which is beautiful,
Speaker 3: but I was like ready for the original music. So
Speaker 3: but then when I went to I'm like, oh, it
Speaker 3: is an original Joline.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then the Daughter after that the sequel where like
Speaker 3: she goes and Jolene tries it and then we find
Speaker 3: out what happens to her and daughter and okay, but
Speaker 3: keep going.
Speaker 1: So you love Joline, no, no, And so my favorite,
Speaker 1: hands down is Blackbird. Okay singing then the Dead, I'm not, Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I love that song prior, but I
Speaker 1: take these Broken Wings and learned the fly. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's really mournful and beautiful, but then I learned the history.
Speaker 1: I just always liked that song.
Speaker 3: I never knew this either.
Speaker 1: Yes, like so for those who don't know the history.
Speaker 1: So it was written by palmerccartney of the Beatles, and
Speaker 1: he wrote it wrote it during the sixties when all
Speaker 1: the racial unheaval was at It's like, I mean, we've
Speaker 1: had our peaks since then, but it was really like
Speaker 1: at a at a fever pitch you know, he was
Speaker 1: watching you know, people being hosed down, people being attacked
Speaker 1: by dogs. You know, like when everything was publicized, not
Speaker 1: publicized on everything was on TV, you got to really
Speaker 1: see what it looked like to be black fighting for
Speaker 1: your right, you know, rights in America. And so as
Speaker 1: a musician, like so many musicians, he wanted to express
Speaker 1: how he was feeling, but also to do something in
Speaker 1: solidarity with and so he said, I'm going to write
Speaker 1: this song and he called it black Bird. Black obviously
Speaker 1: in in tribute to black people, but bird was a
Speaker 1: it was like just like a slang for what they
Speaker 1: call girls in Europe and England or whatever, and so
Speaker 1: not not a the derogatory slang, but just like you know,
Speaker 1: that's like you know how like because when we say
Speaker 1: bird now it means like I.
Speaker 3: Mean, you're like, yeah, it's because it doesn't in her song,
Speaker 3: which seemed like yes.
Speaker 1: But you know, but is using it the way we
Speaker 1: use it like modern you know, because if you're a
Speaker 1: bird now that means basically the word bird now comes
Speaker 1: from the chickenhead, like your chickenhead, like you're but back
Speaker 1: then bird was just like a girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so Blackbird because he wouldn't have used the
Speaker 1: word bird. It was disrespectful.
Speaker 3: It wasn't and it was supposed to beel like a
Speaker 3: quiet protest or like a solidarity, which is so beautiful.
Speaker 3: So singing it but not really knowing it was a yes, and.
Speaker 1: So I just love that. Like so like the first
Speaker 1: couple of lines, blackbird singing in the dead of night,
Speaker 1: take these broken wings and learn to fly. All your life,
Speaker 1: you were only waiting for this moment to arise. Blackbirds
Speaker 1: singing in the dead of night, Take these sunken nies
Speaker 1: and learn to see all your life. You were only
Speaker 1: waiting for this moment to be free, or this moment
Speaker 1: to be And so it's just so beautiful. It's just
Speaker 1: like and so Beyonce stayed very close to like, you know,
Speaker 1: the underlying like melody. And what I love is that
Speaker 1: she had four other black country singers on this record
Speaker 1: with her and they just it's just it's beautiful, it's haunting,
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It's hands down, I probably listened to That's
Speaker 1: already fifty times already. It's my favorites thus far on
Speaker 1: the album, just because when I listened to it, actually
Speaker 1: like it tears me up knowing that like the origin
Speaker 1: and who she's really singing it for, so it's more
Speaker 1: than just the song, it's like the meaning behind us.
Speaker 1: So that is hands down right now my favorite, just
Speaker 1: because of the meaning behind it, and it also it's
Speaker 1: just beautifully.
Speaker 3: Sund And you know, that's another one where I was like,
Speaker 3: I listened to the first verse and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's pretty, pretty, pretty skip because I didn't hear the
Speaker 3: other women because they have their own verses. Just I
Speaker 3: was like, so eager to get to the new stuff anyway,
Speaker 3: but yes, going back, it is an exquisite song, and
Speaker 3: to hear those other voices, what a beautiful way. She's
Speaker 3: just like always chef's kiss, like let me actually get
Speaker 3: some black. It's like her nod to the up and
Speaker 3: comers who are who are who were here doing the
Speaker 3: thing before Beyonce, you know, because she could overshadow by
Speaker 3: just she is the sun, right so she could outshine
Speaker 3: a lot, but she doesn't choose to. She's like, let
Speaker 3: me take my son and shine on y'all, which I
Speaker 3: think is such an element of her power and why
Speaker 3: she's so amazing.
Speaker 1: But also to like the fact that she chose that song,
Speaker 1: like especially in the time.
Speaker 3: Like now yeah she got it's.
Speaker 1: Still yeah, it's still a protest song, like no, you know,
Speaker 1: just yes exactly. So so what about you? So what
Speaker 1: is another what's one that made you say, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: wait a minute.
Speaker 3: Okay, So American Requiem the first track, girl, this, I
Speaker 3: just this is not what you guys. You didn't come
Speaker 3: to be a fam You didn't come to brand ambition
Speaker 3: for a Beyonce like to go through every single track
Speaker 3: you can listen to.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do every single track, but we gotta give.
Speaker 3: Say I have I could have a master's degree in
Speaker 3: her music, and like American Requiem is like me too exquisite.
Speaker 3: So layered the lyrics, the name of the song requiem,
Speaker 3: you know, something that you would perform and sing at
Speaker 3: a burial, a ceremonial sort of song, and the fact
Speaker 3: that it's a can requiem and some of the lyrics
Speaker 3: like the big ideas are buried here, and just the
Speaker 3: haunting like quality of her voice and the way that
Speaker 3: she uses her instrument in so many different ways is
Speaker 3: just so exquisite. And to have that be the entry
Speaker 3: way she's saying so much she's sang so much with
Speaker 3: that song. It's like it's it's laying the foundation for
Speaker 3: the rest of the record, like can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Will you stand with me? It's time to face the wind,
Speaker 3: It's time to stop playing pretend like it's time to
Speaker 3: like embrace the good. And also for those who like
Speaker 3: she actually answers people who did not want her to
Speaker 3: go into country, who said when she went on the
Speaker 3: Cmas with the Chicks back when she had Daddy lessens out,
Speaker 3: said like, what are you doing here? What are you doing?
Speaker 3: And why are you here? Like this, You're not you're
Speaker 3: a pop artist, your R and B. You're not You're urban,
Speaker 3: you're not country. And she's like, well, let me remind
Speaker 3: you who I am, Like let me educate y'all. And
Speaker 3: where I come from. I love that, like Louisiana, Alabama,
Speaker 3: like the creole. Yes, why didn't you say the daughter
Speaker 3: of a moonshiner, granddaughter of a moonshe They.
Speaker 1: Said that girl the way.
Speaker 3: She want way back in the history of books.
Speaker 1: That part when she opens with that part and the
Speaker 1: lines after that, it's like that of a moonshiner. She
Speaker 1: talks about Georgia, but she said something else. They I
Speaker 1: have to look it up because I was hollowing when
Speaker 1: I tell you I was. I took like a two
Speaker 1: hour walk just so I can listen. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: know we were in the street like I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: you to I was like girl by somebody else, but
Speaker 1: I live in a black neighborhood.
Speaker 3: So they weren't. Yes anyway, Oh so good. And then
Speaker 3: the end of the album Amen, like it's just she
Speaker 3: and it sounds just it really gave me and I
Speaker 3: read later, I read the press release from Parkwood, which
Speaker 3: I don't think they've really given a press release about
Speaker 3: an album where Beyonce is being interviewed and actually shares
Speaker 3: the making of the album, like some of the back
Speaker 3: behind the scenes. But she was inspired by all these
Speaker 3: old Western films and the way the album is like
Speaker 3: it starts and ends with that same sound. It very
Speaker 3: much was giving. Like if you watch any old films
Speaker 3: from the fifties, like even Bambi, like my son Loves Bambi,
Speaker 3: they start with this big, like like very like orchestral
Speaker 3: sort of opening and it's sort of mirrors at the end,
Speaker 3: and it just the whole thing was like very seepy,
Speaker 3: a toned and like just stunning. So I love that song.
Speaker 3: I love there's too many. I love Levi's jeans. I
Speaker 3: love them. Yeah, yeah alone it's so sixties.
Speaker 1: You know. I've heard of him, you know, but I
Speaker 1: never really got to his music.
Speaker 3: Said he's saying, what did he sing at the super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Was it America the beautiful? Or was it the whole beautiful?
Speaker 3: Was it the band or I don't know. He's saying
Speaker 3: something he does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Levi's I say, let me other postings to
Speaker 1: post support.
Speaker 3: But like, uh, river Dance, which I love that Beyonce
Speaker 3: is still she's so exquisite, so but she can she
Speaker 3: does ratchet like no one else, and she does sexy
Speaker 3: like I mean, I feel like river Dance and even
Speaker 3: Levi's a little bit. Those were like the drunken loves
Speaker 3: it really and I even felt like some of these
Speaker 3: the sounds that she used, a way that she sang
Speaker 3: was very like reminiscent of her Lemonade era and just
Speaker 3: giving us like so many different genres. I mean, I
Speaker 3: feel like there was rock, of course, there was country,
Speaker 3: but there was still soul, there were still RB and B,
Speaker 3: there was still she gave us Opera and daughter yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Opera Girls was going up. Apparently the aria
Speaker 1: that she sung in that song is from a book
Speaker 1: of like arias that if you are going to learn opera,
Speaker 1: your opera singer, your opera teacher is going to give
Speaker 1: you this like top twenty five book of books of aria,
Speaker 1: and that is the aria that almost everyone starts with.
Speaker 1: And I forget the meaning behind that aria, but like
Speaker 1: the Opera Girls were gagging, honey, they were all over
Speaker 1: the ticks and the talks and the id giving us
Speaker 1: all the tea. Just so you know this is intentional.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, Beyonce, I just girl, okay.
Speaker 3: And then Protector of course Lulla by such a sweet song.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Uh. You know. It's funny with these albums,
Speaker 3: with Renaissance and now with Cowboy Carter. I listened to
Speaker 3: them all the way through. They're so beautiful listening together,
Speaker 3: and I don't know the names of the songs while
Speaker 3: I'm listening to them, so sometimes I'm like, what is
Speaker 3: this one called? And I'm like, oh, I like, you know,
Speaker 3: but I think I've listened to them enough to recognize.
Speaker 3: But Riverdance yeah yeah, oh my not Bodyguard six and
Speaker 3: then Ria not Enrique Rio singing sixteen carriages because I've
Speaker 3: been walking around house sixteen He's like sixteen cabbages. I
Speaker 3: love that. Oh they say Texas, Yes, all of it.
Speaker 3: So just if everyone, if you, if you're if you've been,
Speaker 3: you know, vibing with the Cowboy Carter album, I'm right
Speaker 3: there with you. It is so fun.
Speaker 1: You know, I found interesting? Did you did you see that?
Speaker 1: Beyonce said this was actually supposed to come out before Renaissance. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was part of that crusturely he said, after riot,
Speaker 1: but after the pandemic, she was like, people deserve to
Speaker 1: dance and something lighthearted, and she knew, just imagine knowing
Speaker 1: you're so powerful that you're like, let me change the
Speaker 1: mood of the nation with my.
Speaker 3: Ay, right, and did and did and did.
Speaker 1: And so we all got to party and had a
Speaker 1: good time.
Speaker 3: I did need it to be outside last summer at
Speaker 3: that huge show. Yes, you know, yes, exquisite.
Speaker 1: So let's bring it on back to the financial part, right,
Speaker 1: So how did I want to see the uptick of
Speaker 1: LEVI sales? Because we're going to see it cowboy esque
Speaker 1: things like I know, cowboy hats, like when this when
Speaker 1: this concert comes out, I mean, I just cannot wait
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 3: Expect a tour like she's so she just doesn't do
Speaker 3: Like the way that she did a traditional album release
Speaker 3: is so different to what she had been doing, just
Speaker 3: dropping a whole album and the visual We never got
Speaker 3: visuals for you know, Renaissance. We got the tour, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what to expect. There's still gonna be
Speaker 3: an Act three and like what, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 3: just so excited.
Speaker 1: I think, what do you think? You think three is
Speaker 1: gonna be rock?
Speaker 3: I would love that because remember one of my favorite
Speaker 3: songs from Lemonade was Oh when she was wearing the
Speaker 3: corn rows, what's it called with the black? The black
Speaker 3: not the black stripes, the white stripes? Guy?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Where she was like real angry, Who the fuck do
Speaker 3: you think?
Speaker 1: I is this boy.
Speaker 3: To the next boy? Anyway? You just got a little
Speaker 3: bit anyway that song, I don't know the name of it,
Speaker 3: I forget now, but that was so good. And the
Speaker 3: way she does that, she gives lots of rock. She
Speaker 3: gave like I heard like Stevie Wonder. I'm sitting here
Speaker 3: like and I'm trying to like this sounds a little
Speaker 3: bit familiar. He Stevie wonder I heard Fleetwood Mac. I
Speaker 3: was hearing, Yeah, I was hearing even a little bit
Speaker 3: of like the Eagles. My mom loved the Eagles growing up,
Speaker 3: a little bit of that, like kind of Western rock style.
Speaker 3: I would be so here for a rock album, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she's too good. I don't know how.
Speaker 1: I just she's peerless. Want to collect. Let's be wrong.
Speaker 1: Beyonce is peerless. She is one of points zero zero
Speaker 1: zero zero zero one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And she is a student of music and of her
Speaker 1: art and her craft.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And it is a joy to watch her create and share.
Speaker 1: Yeah and so and she literally, if we're going to
Speaker 1: bring it back to the brown ambition of it all,
Speaker 1: she shifts economies with the choices that she makes. Like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I remember that dinner. I don't know if you remember
Speaker 1: that time. Not that time that Oprah was being sued
Speaker 1: by the beef industry.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because what she brought.
Speaker 1: Up because she she said no, she said something like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't eat meat anymore, whatever, and then meat meat
Speaker 1: stocks plummeting or something, or meet sales plummeted, and they
Speaker 1: sued her because they said that her voice is so powerful.
Speaker 1: If she says the thing, it's going to affect the market.
Speaker 1: I mean, she ended up not being found not guilty
Speaker 1: because it's like, well, I mean I say lots of stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't like she said don't buy that
Speaker 1: stock and so that was just but.
Speaker 4: It just goes to show that, you know, there are
Speaker 4: some people who the power is so strong that they
Speaker 4: literally can shift in economic cycle.
Speaker 1: They can literally sell out. It's not just about selling
Speaker 1: out concert tours in this point, you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm telling Swift. We've seen this with her too,
Speaker 1: right that like certain things, it's like, Yo, Beyonce puts
Speaker 1: it out and we're buying cowboy hats and boots and Levi's.
Speaker 1: If you're going on tour sists, we're going to be red,
Speaker 1: going to be hockey stop it.
Speaker 3: And you want to and you'd want to take your
Speaker 3: time with it, you know. And having now in my
Speaker 3: third week of owning the Sacred Line, her hair care line,
Speaker 3: and being so like, if she sells it, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I want to buy it, like I because the care
Speaker 3: and even while I was doing the it makes me
Speaker 3: slow down. The Sacred Hair care Line because it's very
Speaker 3: like things take twenty minutes and I understand, And a
Speaker 3: lot of it is called the ritual, the sacred this,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, this is like a sacred ritual taking
Speaker 3: care of my hair, which I haven't felt in a while.
Speaker 3: Like she makes me feel better and to and the
Speaker 3: music and the experiences as well. It makes us like
Speaker 3: slow put thought into something the way that she puts
Speaker 3: thought into every single thing that she does publicly, which
Speaker 3: might be like a little I don't know, that's just
Speaker 3: that's how I feel like. You want to, like, you
Speaker 3: don't want to show up to be in her presence,
Speaker 3: even if she'll never see you not being at your
Speaker 3: because she gives you that right, she gives you that perfection.
Speaker 3: You want to like match that exactly.
Speaker 1: Hey, be a fan. We're going to take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 3: I want to know when the hell is the Renaissance
Speaker 3: documentary gonna be streaming? Because I never got to see
Speaker 3: it in theaters because too much was life was lifing,
Speaker 3: too much, and I'm so desperate to see it. Did
Speaker 3: you ever see it in theaters?
Speaker 1: No? Because I don't say it was a really crazy
Speaker 1: time during that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yep, we'll be reading this bed time story
Speaker 3: tonight to be a little Golden book of the Beyonce Book. Yeah,
Speaker 3: how are you texting? Is its? No?
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, when you're when you're renovating,
Speaker 1: Like I told the pain there painted this. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's not the collar.
Speaker 3: It's like, did you give him his hoodie back? Hate? Yes?
Speaker 1: So yeah, Antonio, we have this amazing painter. He's great.
Speaker 1: But well, one I one day, I was like, we
Speaker 1: both wore a black hoodie one day and I wore
Speaker 1: his all the way home, like what is this? And
Speaker 1: it was not my hoodie because Antonio's is not very
Speaker 1: man on the shorter side.
Speaker 3: But also it's so good.
Speaker 1: It just goes to show you that through your passion
Speaker 1: and your excellence and your joy that it also there
Speaker 1: is an economic whether it's you being a really great teacher,
Speaker 1: you know, there's an economic impact for bringing your full self.
Speaker 1: So let's just say, like, let's just say in the
Speaker 1: case of a teacher, if I'm this really awesome teacher,
Speaker 1: you know, and I do such a good job that
Speaker 1: I spark interest in my kids like that I teach,
Speaker 1: they can go on to do things that will then
Speaker 1: make this world better, whether they're a doctor or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean that, Like I think that
Speaker 1: you know, all things intermingle, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And certainly, like maybe Beyonce, you know, hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars, but who's to say that your impact as
Speaker 1: a teacher is also not hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 1: because of the hundreds of students that you've taught in
Speaker 1: your lifetime, if not thousands, and just a handful of
Speaker 1: them shaping the way the world comes comes to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's just like but like or like you might
Speaker 1: be a salesperson, you know, like at like a foot locker,
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, well, what how do I shape you know,
Speaker 1: what happens economically? Well, that's not true because if you're
Speaker 1: really passionate knowledge that knowledgeable about like say a certain
Speaker 1: pair of sneakers, you can literally start a trend in
Speaker 1: that store, and then that trend takes off and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're all wearing like sambas. But it
Speaker 1: really started in this one store in Detroit because there's
Speaker 1: one really passionate, you know person you know working at
Speaker 1: foot lockers. So I just like it just is fascinating
Speaker 1: to me, like what joy and excellence and focus can
Speaker 1: bring not just in your life personally, but there's an
Speaker 1: economic ripple, like you know, like no matter where you are,
Speaker 1: you can ripple.
Speaker 3: You know, I would like just even half of one ripple,
Speaker 3: Like okay, yes, well they have right now. I feel
Speaker 3: like a startup owner, a startup founder who's like, please
Speaker 3: invest in my business. I need thirty million dollars. I
Speaker 3: have one billion dollars in debt. We are stars are
Speaker 3: never profitable for like twenty years or something. That's what
Speaker 3: it's like.
Speaker 1: Big, Like you know, you don't know what your baby's
Speaker 1: gonna cost and your.
Speaker 3: Baby's baby baby big.
Speaker 1: That big no no, but I love that though, just
Speaker 1: like yeah, we just don't know because look, I think
Speaker 1: think about like how many women that you've helped right
Speaker 1: negotiate and make more money?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like if you think about absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like your dad and mom
Speaker 1: being you know who they are, for you created a
Speaker 1: Mandy that comes out into the world and says, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna help Mandy's money makers. And we don't know some
Speaker 1: of the women that you've helped whose children they're raising. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the kids, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't have enough money, but now my kid I
Speaker 1: have enough for them to take violin lessons, only to
Speaker 1: find out twenty years later they're like this violin prodigy
Speaker 1: that and you might not ever know that, but you
Speaker 1: played a role because you helped her. And so isn't
Speaker 1: that such a beautiful thing that like when you go
Speaker 1: out and you do the thing, you know that you're
Speaker 1: here to do. You know, you might not know, but
Speaker 1: we're all planning c and so just like you know,
Speaker 1: you can't you can't know they outcome, but certainly you
Speaker 1: can know like I'm going to do my best to
Speaker 1: put the best thing out there. So yeah, we get
Speaker 1: to do amazing work like we might.
Speaker 3: That's a really good grounding thought, just to like if
Speaker 3: you're wondering, if you're feeling like overwhelmed, the thing is
Speaker 3: you have to do just like do the thing and
Speaker 3: you can't control like what ripples you know come from it,
Speaker 3: but yes, just have faith in doing that thing and
Speaker 3: putting good out into the world. Yeah, like Lady b Oh,
Speaker 3: I love her.
Speaker 1: Should we take a break or do have some more things?
Speaker 1: I know we had other things to chat expect.
Speaker 3: Mostly on we didn't want to talk about beyond sady war. Okay, fine,
Speaker 3: oh okay, So brown boost or not brown Boost? Sorry, buzzworthy, buzzword.
Speaker 3: This is a part of the show, or we try
Speaker 3: to come up with some you know, useful information from
Speaker 3: the headlines. Let's see, California fast food workers are now
Speaker 3: make you twenty dollars an hour.
Speaker 1: But they're getting also let go.
Speaker 3: Did you see. I'm not surprised. Yeah, fast food workers
Speaker 3: in California at chains with more than sixty national locations
Speaker 3: now earned twenty dollars an hour. Yeah, but they're getting
Speaker 3: let go. Like, so, how are they getting around it?
Speaker 3: Because they still need workers for their stores, right. Some
Speaker 3: affected chains have.
Speaker 1: Responded, No, I think I saw somewhere that they're automated.
Speaker 1: They're leaning into AI and automation. I've gone to somewhere
Speaker 1: ye where it's like you literally order your thing there
Speaker 1: and there's maybe one perserver in the back that makes
Speaker 1: the food and fringshakeshack.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Some affected chains have responded to the wage
Speaker 3: hike by slashing their workforces and hiking their medu prices.
Speaker 3: Pizza chains like Papa John's Pizza Hut, laid off drivers, McDonald's,
Speaker 3: wigs Op, Chipotle are going to pass on the higher
Speaker 3: labor costs to their customers by making their menu items
Speaker 3: more expensive. Listen, inflation is still inflation. This is literally
Speaker 3: inflation at work. You know, wages go up, which is great,
Speaker 3: but then the cost of goods can also go up.
Speaker 3: So if you like these restaurants, better hope that you're
Speaker 3: also getting a raise to keep affording yikes. The other
Speaker 3: sort of side of inflation, the inflation conversation has been,
Speaker 3: now that the Fed is getting involved and they've been
Speaker 3: slowly decreasing rates, do they do their first rate decrease yet?
Speaker 3: I forget they're going to or they they would be Anyway,
Speaker 3: all sides are pourting toward twenty twenty four being the
Speaker 3: year when rates start to come down the federal FED rate,
Speaker 3: So mortgage prices are indirectly tied to that rate, right,
Speaker 3: and mortgage rates have been super high, like seven percent.
Speaker 1: Although they have gone down some, they've come which I think.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the Fed rate, but I know mortgage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they did lower it. So anyhow, I
Speaker 3: read this article that was talking about Okay, so if
Speaker 3: we can expect rates to go down in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Should people who were interested in buying a home but
Speaker 3: have been holding back, like me, for example, because of
Speaker 3: how high rates are, like advising people to go ahead
Speaker 3: and get a house and then you can refinance when
Speaker 3: rates do fall, which I was like, oh, that makes sense,
Speaker 3: But then I'm thinking, well, we're kind of trying to
Speaker 3: predict the future of markets, which is one you make
Speaker 3: if you want to be right, then just if you
Speaker 3: want to be wrong, trying to predict what any market
Speaker 3: or rates are going to be doing. It's how I feel,
Speaker 3: And it's a really expensive like bet to make because
Speaker 3: a six percent interest rate, how long could it take
Speaker 3: to get back down to the two point four percent
Speaker 3: that it was? I don't think that's what I refined
Speaker 3: last time. Yeah, it's And not only that, but I
Speaker 3: bought my house at twenty eighteen. I refinanced at twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one, so that was a three years I was
Speaker 3: paying that higher like four percent rate.
Speaker 1: Like, which is a great rate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was lucky the timing, but I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: so I just I went from being like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe I should just go ahead and buy to like,
Speaker 3: oh wait, maybe don't like, maybe just base something on
Speaker 3: your own ability and your desire to buy something. Their
Speaker 3: rationale was that when rates do start to go down,
Speaker 3: people will start flooding the market, and like home prices
Speaker 3: could go up as a result. But again, trying to
Speaker 3: time the housing market, it's so difficult to do. I
Speaker 3: got lucky once. I don't know if luck's going to
Speaker 3: happen twice for me in terms of my timing when
Speaker 3: buying a house. But if y'all are like me, stuck
Speaker 3: in a starter home and bursting at the seams, I
Speaker 3: really really feel your pain. How many bedrooms it's a
Speaker 3: very cute three bedroom, two and a half bath and
Speaker 3: well actually two yeah, two and to a half baths.
Speaker 3: It's a yeah, it literally is a starter home in
Speaker 3: a neighborhood full of them, and uh, yeah, we are.
Speaker 3: I've actually started to just pack things away, like just
Speaker 3: pack up things that we don't need anymore, but we
Speaker 3: don't want to get rid of because I was getting
Speaker 3: rid of so much stuff, and I'm like, this stuff
Speaker 3: is good, Like I don't want to just but I
Speaker 3: don't have the space for this. So yeah, I've I've
Speaker 3: been pretending like we're going to pack up and move.
Speaker 3: I just don't know when or where, and that's kind
Speaker 3: of helping. But yeah, the stuff, it's a constant battle
Speaker 3: against stuff in this house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of people who are in the
Speaker 1: starter home stuck right now, who who got great rates
Speaker 1: and they're.
Speaker 3: Like, ah, yeah, I don't want to go my rate.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, yeah, you know, like we
Speaker 1: want something bigger, but homes are only getting more and
Speaker 1: more expensive, and then rates are also. It's a really
Speaker 1: difficult time. It used to be like, oh, it's so
Speaker 1: great for buyers, but that means it's terrible for sellers,
Speaker 1: or it's so great for sellers and it's terrible for buyers.
Speaker 1: And what you just see now is like it's hard
Speaker 1: for very mindy right now everybody, you know. Sellers are like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose lose my rate, and the
Speaker 1: buyers are like, yeah, I can't afford it even if
Speaker 1: you do, like you know, unless you're gonna assume someone's
Speaker 1: a loan. Yeah, it's something a tricky financial.
Speaker 3: Time right now, very tricky. Well, you're listening to the
Speaker 3: right podcast if you want somehow it's going to be true.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just will just you know, sometimes it's
Speaker 3: like it's harder to make financial choices when you don't
Speaker 3: have some kind of huge event that forces you to
Speaker 3: make a decision, Like you get a new job at
Speaker 3: a different state. Well that I got to do something,
Speaker 3: you know, Like just those situations are they may not
Speaker 3: happen when you want them to, but it's a little
Speaker 3: liberating when you don't really have a choice. You just
Speaker 3: got to like do something. But when you have all
Speaker 3: this time to think into all that, Like, I think
Speaker 3: my advice is just to try, Like, following the herd
Speaker 3: is rarely the right financial decision at all. And if
Speaker 3: you're buying the house or play the log gabe anyway,
Speaker 3: so just continue to play that log gabe and I
Speaker 3: would not follow. I would not follow this advice right now,
Speaker 3: even though I almost did for five seconds. I'll keep waiting.
Speaker 3: I'm so congested. Do I sound like curb it?
Speaker 1: Oh? You're all right?
Speaker 3: Okay, tis the season for allergies, y'all.
Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna lie. My eyes are burning
Speaker 1: right now, if I'm being all the way honest, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's cherry blossom's season, which is beautiful, but then
Speaker 1: it's pillen season, which is not so beautiful, but we
Speaker 1: all want the bees to get their food or whatever.
Speaker 1: So just a little update, Chiall, I remember remember last
Speaker 1: was it last week, Mandy when I talked about the scam?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, it was last week. It was your broad break,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Yes, So I had talked about the scam that's happening.
Speaker 1: So the premise of the scam is people someone reaches
Speaker 1: out to you and says, hey, do you want to
Speaker 1: do this podcast? It's paid, it's going to happen on
Speaker 1: Facebook Live, and you have to give me some back end,
Speaker 1: like you have to link me back end, And like
Speaker 1: I said, this is not uncommon because I have done
Speaker 1: it before with larger brands, and that's exactly what it
Speaker 1: looks like. So apparently it's this scam that they get
Speaker 1: access to your back end and as a result of
Speaker 1: getting access to your back end, they basically kick you
Speaker 1: out and then now they have control of your of
Speaker 1: your platform.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just thought it wasn't. I knew it wasn't a
Speaker 1: one off because I had done a Google search and
Speaker 1: realized there was other people, but I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: there were people who I knew, like Chessca Lee on
Speaker 1: she's a big YouTuber back in the day and she's
Speaker 1: the actress now and writer and such. She shared how
Speaker 1: it happened to her and a bunch of her other friends.
Speaker 1: So they're going after people with large Facebook So they're
Speaker 1: going after not just people with large Facebook followings, people
Speaker 1: with large Facebook followings who also do speaking engagements and stuff,
Speaker 1: because they know that this is not odd the request,
Speaker 1: you know, so if you just had a large Facebook following, again,
Speaker 1: like that doesn't make sense you want to give you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very and it's a long game because it's weeks in
Speaker 1: the making. They could and they don't email you directly
Speaker 1: all Jankie, They like reach out to your management, like
Speaker 1: they've reached out to her management team, and so you
Speaker 1: know they're knowing, like, oh yeahvet me, everything's great, child.
Speaker 1: It is so thankfully for her and like for me,
Speaker 1: you know, it just didn't work because the link wasn't working.
Speaker 1: But for her, she was able to reach out to
Speaker 1: Facebook and she knew somebody there, Her management knew somebody
Speaker 1: there and were able to get her her account back.
Speaker 3: Oh that's lucky to get a hold of anybody at Meta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. You know, and so I just
Speaker 1: wanted to just like be on the look if you've
Speaker 1: got a large anything suspicious. In general, this is what
Speaker 1: I've learned. I remember, like, this is not my first
Speaker 1: roadio at the scam. Y'all know, I've been scammed many
Speaker 1: of times, but I remember there was one scam in
Speaker 1: particular when I was in college where I was going
Speaker 1: on Craigslist looking for babysitting jobs and tutoring jobs. You know,
Speaker 1: it was semi safe back then. I don't even know child,
Speaker 1: but either way, I found a couple of them and
Speaker 1: they were fine, and then one I got one strange
Speaker 1: one where it was like, hey, he said his name
Speaker 1: was Bob or some you know, nondescript name, and I
Speaker 1: want you to tutor my daughter. And I said sure.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm going to send you the money up front.
Speaker 1: I was like, all, I say less. He said, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to send you more than you need because
Speaker 1: something about his bank account whatever, and can I send
Speaker 1: him back the rest? And I was like huh. He
Speaker 1: said yes, Like, let's just say that I was going
Speaker 1: to tutor and it was five hundred dollars. He was
Speaker 1: going to send me a thousand, like a money order
Speaker 1: or a check for a thousand dollars. I was to
Speaker 1: deposit it and then send him back the rest. And
Speaker 1: I was like, that isn't Why would I like, why
Speaker 1: not just send me the five hundred And he was
Speaker 1: like no, I forget why he said, so anyway, I
Speaker 1: just said huh. So we went to the I went
Speaker 1: to the bank to ask them like, is this real
Speaker 1: because and at the time it was still so new
Speaker 1: the scam. The bank actually took the check and looked
Speaker 1: through it and they were like, yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: real check, you know. And I still was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, huh okay. They're like, still if you got
Speaker 1: it from some of you don't know, be mindful, like
Speaker 1: you know, if you deposit it and you spend the money,
Speaker 1: it's on you. So I still didn't sit well with me.
Speaker 1: So I had told Bob to call me. He said
Speaker 1: he was from Thailand. That's why he had to send
Speaker 1: me the money in this way for whatever reason. And
Speaker 1: he told Bob. So Bob told me. I said, you know, Bob, fine,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll do this, but I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you on the phone. He said, okay, no, say less.
Speaker 1: And this is how I caught Bob.
Speaker 3: Time you really like. I was like, shot, yeah, because
Speaker 3: you know what it.
Speaker 1: Is at the time when you're broke, You're like, child,
Speaker 1: let this be real. I could use the phone, so
Speaker 1: Bob said, let's get on a call. So immediately the
Speaker 1: phone rings, you know, and I didn't even look at
Speaker 1: the phone. I picked up said hello, and I heard hello.
Speaker 1: Can I speak to Tiffany? And instantly I was like,
Speaker 1: which one of my uncles is? Because I didn't because
Speaker 1: I I can spind a mile away, how would I
Speaker 1: look at the phone? I was like, hello, uncle? Which
Speaker 1: uncle said? He said, no, no, this is not well.
Speaker 1: This is all I said. From Thailand? He said yes.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, Nigerian, I can tell you an accent.
Speaker 1: I said, I myself Nigerian as well. You was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I said, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Speaker 1: Shamed of yourself. I pulled out the full accent. Oh,
Speaker 1: and that's when I was like, oh, my countryman, what
Speaker 1: are we doing out here? It wasn't bottom Thailand. That
Speaker 1: was cheenaidoo from ladies okay, from Abuja.
Speaker 3: Nagians are like, first of all, I feel like behind
Speaker 3: so many successful like when you just black excellence in
Speaker 3: Nigeria just go hand in hand, like y'all.
Speaker 1: Just I don't know what I was about to say, huh,
Speaker 1: why are they behind sobody scams?
Speaker 3: But also you have these high heights, you know, like
Speaker 3: so many incredible business people and successful people, like I
Speaker 3: associate Nigerian's with like success and you're all like very impressive.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, well, here's what, like my
Speaker 1: dad told me. I asked him that, I said, and
Speaker 1: it's not a regular scams. It's like these elaborate whatever scams,
Speaker 1: you know, because how do he even get the check
Speaker 1: or the money order to be real? Only to like
Speaker 1: because what happens is the bank finally figured out that
Speaker 1: it was all alive. And what would happen is you
Speaker 1: would put the money order in the account and then
Speaker 1: it would at first clear and then you would get
Speaker 1: the money back and then it wouldn't clear, so then
Speaker 1: you'd be on the hook for the money you gave
Speaker 1: back plus the money that you spent. So I don't
Speaker 1: even know how they figure that out. So when I
Speaker 1: asked my dad, I asked that question. I said, Daddy,
Speaker 1: why you know Nigerians, you know, if they did the
Speaker 1: study and that they're at least in America, the most
Speaker 1: educated population in America. So about doctors, masters, etc. I said,
Speaker 1: why is it that so many Nigerians, well, so many
Speaker 1: scams are attributed to Nigerian's Like what is that? He said, Well,
Speaker 1: in Nigeria, just like in America, education is first, second,
Speaker 1: and third. So you have and I've seen that, Like
Speaker 1: I have little cousins who farmed, but I have their doctorate,
Speaker 1: you know. He said, So you get all these highly,
Speaker 1: highly highly educated people with no access to upper mobility.
Speaker 1: So here I am a doctor and I'm farming, you know.
Speaker 1: And so what do you do with all this intelligence?
Speaker 1: What do people do when they're really poor? Not everyone,
Speaker 1: but oftentimes when people are really poor and there's no
Speaker 1: access to any upper mobility, then you resort to a
Speaker 1: life of crime. Now, maybe if you're uneducated, you might
Speaker 1: knock somebody over the head and steal their purse. But
Speaker 1: if you're like Chiah, I got all these smarts. Let
Speaker 1: me get on this computer and get to scam. So
Speaker 1: that's what you get. You have basically a Nigeria. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: the government has not done a very good job looking
Speaker 1: after its people. So you have really smart, educated motivated
Speaker 1: people with no access to be able to support themselves
Speaker 1: in their family. And I'm not saying it's right, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying this is why the scams a right like
Speaker 1: this kind of level. Okay, it is because they're like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to put my smarts toward yes to this
Speaker 1: intricate So because my dad told me one time, like
Speaker 1: you might apply there might be a job where there's
Speaker 1: fifty fifty positions open. Nigeria is also most the most
Speaker 1: populated country in Nigeria, and so let's just say it's
Speaker 1: in America, there's fifty positions open at a job and
Speaker 1: five hundred, maybe even five thousand apply. In Nigeria, you're
Speaker 1: looking at fifty thousand applicants for a fifty person slot.
Speaker 1: There's just nothing or you'll get you'll be a teacher
Speaker 1: or policeman. You won't have gotten paid for three or
Speaker 1: four months.
Speaker 3: So what do you do?
Speaker 1: Do you quit? And then maybe this is you finally
Speaker 1: get your retroactive paid next month and now you don't
Speaker 1: get the money. So anyway, I'm just saying there's not
Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses, just explaining, according to my father,
Speaker 1: why some of the scams from Nigeria end up being
Speaker 1: like these high tech, high level scams. It's because you know,
Speaker 1: you get the population of people with no access to
Speaker 1: to money and food and things like this, and and
Speaker 1: then but you have all this education and you're like, child,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this one way to the other and
Speaker 1: I'm leaving here with some I'm from around the way.
Speaker 3: I think that it's very helpful to understand it that
Speaker 3: way too.
Speaker 1: But I just say, if you ever get a call
Speaker 1: from Bob and a Nigerian accent.
Speaker 3: From Thailand Nigerian, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I said, Sah, you're not from Thailand.
Speaker 3: My friend reels is like, Nigerians don't insult to you.
Speaker 3: They like, what are theys? It's a Nigerian insult. Is
Speaker 3: that Like, I had a bad day, but it's like
Speaker 3: today my enemies are prospering against me.
Speaker 1: You're the enemy. You're the enemy of promise. Like someone said,
Speaker 1: like their dad used to tell them, Hey, you're lucky
Speaker 1: I didn't beat you today. Today it's Christmas. Next time
Speaker 1: it will be your holiday. So poetic, but oh yeah,
Speaker 1: very poetic. Or they'll say something like hey, you know
Speaker 1: every day you are you are running from stupidity today.
Speaker 1: It has caught you. Yo. It was so poetic. You like,
Speaker 1: did I just get insulted? As like, yes, insulted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just very very very poetic people.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love love love And it's time.
Speaker 1: No, let's be a Q and wait I wait but no,
Speaker 1: but it's a before that what wait? And now it's
Speaker 1: time to boost up breaking go boostop break up, boostop? Breaking?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna boost? Is you gonna break? What you're
Speaker 1: gonna do? What you're gonna say? You're gonna go first? Second?
Speaker 1: How you want to do this?
Speaker 3: You go first? I was gonna are you gonna boost
Speaker 3: a break? What's your vibe? No? No, are you gonna
Speaker 3: do a boost? You don't know yet? Yes, you don't know.
Speaker 3: You want me to go first? You can figure it out, gotcha.
Speaker 3: So my friend Amelia, friend of the show, Amelia has
Speaker 3: been doubt holding us down as part of the original
Speaker 3: BA faners. She sent me a message because Amelia is
Speaker 3: a marathon runner and also a sports writer, like a
Speaker 3: health and fitness writer, and she's working on a book Amelia.
Speaker 3: But she sent me a message because I don't know
Speaker 3: if you remember, but last year the Boston Marathon is
Speaker 3: coming up this April. Right, last year, the best Boston
Speaker 3: Marathon is like the marathon if you like to run,
Speaker 3: it's really hard to qualify for Only the best of
Speaker 3: the best get through, et cetera. Last year, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, we know Boston's history, it's not exactly like
Speaker 3: there's a lot of issues right in terms of like
Speaker 3: inequities and the way that minorities are treated. Last year
Speaker 3: at the Boston Marathon, there were there was an incident
Speaker 3: where this crowd of spectators, you know, people lined the
Speaker 3: course and they cheer on their runners or whatever. There
Speaker 3: was a group of black and brown spectators who were
Speaker 3: really cheering on some runners very loudly, like excitedly cheering
Speaker 3: them on. And the police I don't know if they
Speaker 3: arrested them, but they definitely like stopped them. The police
Speaker 3: pulled them aside and made it stop. They were like
Speaker 3: they just got all over them. And it's one of
Speaker 3: those things that policing a black joy is so like pervasive,
Speaker 3: Like you have a cookout and it's a black cookout,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you get noise complaints. Like I
Speaker 3: don't know if you recall a Fantasia Burno. She came
Speaker 3: out with a story about how she had done a
Speaker 3: birthday party for her little boy and his friends at
Speaker 3: like a beautiful Airbnb kind of thing and they had
Speaker 3: all these noise complaints just because the boys were outside
Speaker 3: playing and being boys.
Speaker 1: Ag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Boston Marathon, uh, And my friend texted or
Speaker 3: sent me this message because they the Boston Marathon, they
Speaker 3: apologized to the police just this year. They issued they
Speaker 3: made an agreement because the police were so livid, like
Speaker 3: whatever the police used in the police institution, they were
Speaker 3: so livid, and I guess they hold so much like power,
Speaker 3: like without their participation, Yeah, right, Boston, Without their participation,
Speaker 3: it would make it really hard for the marathon to
Speaker 3: keep going. So they issued an apology to the police.
Speaker 3: And my friend Amelia says, yeah, the Boston at Boston
Speaker 3: Athletic Association has apologized, apologized to the police rather than
Speaker 3: the affected community the whole thing. And Amelia has been
Speaker 3: working toward Boston forever and that was her first year
Speaker 3: running it. It was such a long time goal for
Speaker 3: me to qualify, especially because I know that there's a
Speaker 3: lack of representation. Amelia is a Peruvian And then she
Speaker 3: sent me I'll send a couple of links to and
Speaker 3: put them in the group chat about the Boston Marathon.
Speaker 3: But to then, it was a run club. My run
Speaker 3: club was profiled for cheering while while black. So to
Speaker 3: that run club in Boston, you know, I hope that
Speaker 3: they haven't stopped, but they're called the Pioneers Run Crew.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's so.
Speaker 1: Sad because I'm not gonna lie. Even when I'm like
Speaker 1: in a restaurant, like I'll be like, you know, because
Speaker 1: I've got quite the voice that carries and I'll be
Speaker 1: like huh, and then some of my friends are like
Speaker 1: tiviny Tiffany. But then it'll be like a table of
Speaker 1: like you know, white girls, like yes, said, I was
Speaker 1: at a type place and they were so loud, but honestly,
Speaker 1: joyously it was like a f and I thought to myself, well,
Speaker 1: why can't I exprest, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like why it I'm like everyone here is laughing, yeah,
Speaker 1: but the black girl laughs and it's an issue. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: the table, not the table that's cussing if us and
Speaker 1: next to me having an issue. Honestly, it's really really frustrating.
Speaker 1: And then you end up policing yourself, like, well, let
Speaker 1: me not be too joyful or joyous, because I don't
Speaker 1: want anyone to say even though they're freaking loud over
Speaker 1: there talking about what she did last night, you know
Speaker 1: so much so I can hear him, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And so like that happens a lot, especially like being
Speaker 1: out in public spaces, you know, where your joy is
Speaker 1: supposed to be expressed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just being able and knowing that you can
Speaker 3: be celebrating the wrong way apparently, can you imagine. And
Speaker 3: then for the police to be apologized to I just
Speaker 3: feel like it was a huge letdown for that running club.
Speaker 3: And so thanks to Amelia for bringing that to our attention.
Speaker 3: And yeah, America, America, I know, what is it? Like?
Speaker 1: The American dream is living in America? Those T shirts?
Speaker 3: Can we bring it back to the Beyonce album? I
Speaker 3: mean another half an hour?
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is I guess it's this is kind
Speaker 1: of like a boosty breaking. So I'm reading this book
Speaker 1: called ten Next is easier than to it?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, you sent me that book.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's very good. I recommend it to anybody. Is
Speaker 1: especially here's the thing. It's going to be hard to
Speaker 1: take action if you're not an entrepreneur, because some of
Speaker 1: the things require like you to have the flexibility of
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. But it's still really good either way. But
Speaker 1: it's specifically written for business owners to like maximize the
Speaker 1: way they navigate their time, their energy, their talents or whatever.
Speaker 1: So one of the parts of the book, so this
Speaker 1: author due well Dan Sullivan, and I forget the other
Speaker 1: guy's name, they've written a couple books together, who who
Speaker 1: not how, But also they've written this book called Gap,
Speaker 1: the Gap and the Game, And so there's a part
Speaker 1: of the book. So I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: a book break, but I guess it's both because they
Speaker 1: talk about how you view things versus the gap and
Speaker 1: the game really affects how happy, how satisfied it you
Speaker 1: get burnt out and I realized how much I was
Speaker 1: living in the gap. And I'll explain to you what
Speaker 1: the gap in the game is and how that's one
Speaker 1: of the things they try to reframe for you in
Speaker 1: the book that's going to help you one not be overwhelmed,
Speaker 1: not be overworked, but also work more joyfully. And so
Speaker 1: when you live in the gap, that is when you
Speaker 1: compare where you are now to whatever your goal is,
Speaker 1: whatever your your you know, your ideal goal is like, ah, man,
Speaker 1: i want to be ten million dollars a year, I'm eight,
Speaker 1: where there's a gap of two million. Oh man, I
Speaker 1: want to be you know, I wanted my hair to
Speaker 1: be shoulder length, but it's only earlength. There's a gap,
Speaker 1: you know, like whatever that is. You're always comparing where
Speaker 1: you are to where you want to be, and a
Speaker 1: lot of entrepreneurs and just people in general navigating the
Speaker 1: gap because we believe that the gap is what drives
Speaker 1: us forward, like go go, go more, more and more.
Speaker 1: I could do it. I could do it. But what
Speaker 1: it does is that it leads you constantly dissatisfied with
Speaker 1: yourself because what happens is inevitably you do close that gap,
Speaker 1: your hair grows, you make that money, you know, you
Speaker 1: get that dress or whatever it is, and then what
Speaker 1: happens is that the goalpost moves and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: what before I remember me making one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: in a year was like one of my biggest goals.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what I got to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, and now if I make that only in
Speaker 1: a month, I'm talking about gross business. I'd be at
Speaker 1: a business, yeah, you know, And I'm like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: what used to be like less than ten years ago,
Speaker 1: was like that if I could just do this, And
Speaker 1: now I'm like, I better do better than that. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that's the gap. And like I and oftentimes, if you're
Speaker 1: living in a gap in business, you're likely living in
Speaker 1: a gap at work, living in a gap with your partner,
Speaker 1: living the gap with your kids. Like how many when
Speaker 1: I taught preschool, how many parents came to me like, oh,
Speaker 1: my son does not speaking like I thought. You know,
Speaker 1: she's not walking, she's holding thispoon in this way. That's
Speaker 1: living in the gap. This is where they're supposed to be.
Speaker 1: They're here now. What they try to reframe is to
Speaker 1: practice living in the game. So instead, you're supposed to
Speaker 1: use the ideal as inspiration, not a measuring stick, because
Speaker 1: you will never live up to whatever that thing is.
Speaker 1: It's just supposed to inspire you to keep going. But
Speaker 1: if you live in the game, you only compare yourself
Speaker 1: to your past self. So like, wow, Tiffany, ten years ago,
Speaker 1: you want to make one hundred thousand dollars in a year.
Speaker 1: Now you make multiple hundreds of thousands in a month.
Speaker 1: Look how far you've come, Wow, Tiffany, or like wow,
Speaker 1: look at my kid. I know that there is speech
Speaker 1: delay and we're getting him to the place. But literally,
Speaker 1: just six months ago, baby boy wasn't saying anything, and
Speaker 1: now he's saying mama and data. That's huge, you know,
Speaker 1: like that's huge, or like wow, like you know a
Speaker 1: minute ago, like I didn't even have a business, you know,
Speaker 1: like I worked in corporate. Now I took this idea
Speaker 1: from my head and it's like it's like here and
Speaker 1: like living and breathing, you know, like this business is
Speaker 1: out into the world, and so living from the game
Speaker 1: keeps you motivated, keeps you joyful, keeps you grateful. And
Speaker 1: so it was just something that I just wanted to share.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's a boost a break.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like boos half and half because part
Speaker 1: of me realize how much I was living in the gap,
Speaker 1: and like I want to stick it on my wall somewhere,
Speaker 1: Like Tiffany, what is the gain component? Because I'm always
Speaker 1: comparing myself to like where I think I ought to be,
Speaker 1: and it's and I tell myself, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: true when I make this twenty million, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's true. When I make thirty million, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you've made all the other like leaps before, and you're
Speaker 1: still not satisfied. And so I'm really, really really going
Speaker 1: to really try my best to reframe me every time
Speaker 1: and be like, you know what, what's the gain here?
Speaker 1: Where were you five months ago, five years ago? Where
Speaker 1: were you?
Speaker 3: You know, like, and all that's two million? Bring more joy?
Speaker 3: And is that what you're after? Are you after the
Speaker 3: more joy or the dollar signs?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be as happy as I pop. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to create. Like when I think about my little
Speaker 3: starter home and I really tell myself, like, we have
Speaker 3: such a happy little family in this little house. We
Speaker 3: don't need a bigger home to be happier. We need
Speaker 3: a bigger home for like, it's not a bigger home
Speaker 3: is not going to fix like any like relationship issues
Speaker 3: we may have or certainly not like you know rio
Speaker 3: speech delay, which is basically gone now he's doing so good, uh,
Speaker 3: which is like come on anyway, Yeah, but how are
Speaker 3: you how how much joy can you feel in your
Speaker 3: little container? And then everything else? Yeah, it doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that you don't you stop striving at least for me,
Speaker 3: for more and all that for better. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, I know that I was just
Speaker 3: as happy here, and I'll be just as happy if
Speaker 3: I end up back here, you know. So that's a
Speaker 3: really beautiful message that I wouldn't have expected from a
Speaker 3: book with that title.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, Because I thought the book was going
Speaker 1: to be about like go, go, go more and more,
Speaker 1: it's actually about less less less truthfully, yeah, I suggest it, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but meaning like less as in like that. The premise
Speaker 1: of the book is that like when you get really
Speaker 1: good at like your thing, and you really teach yourself
Speaker 1: how to focus, you actually end up doing less and
Speaker 1: gaining more. So so he gives this example of like
Speaker 1: driving a car. Remember when we first started driving, girl,
Speaker 1: I was like the mirror, the other mirror, My hands
Speaker 1: are here, the gas right, Because when you're when you
Speaker 1: are inexperience, you're using so much energy just to go
Speaker 1: from here to wherever you're going. But what happens with
Speaker 1: time and experience and mastery. Girl, Sometimes I get home,
Speaker 1: I'm like, how did I get home? Barely using any
Speaker 1: mental strength? Like I could literally be thinking of a
Speaker 1: whole business plan while I'm driving because I'm on autopilot
Speaker 1: with like the mental strength. And so that's what ten
Speaker 1: ex is easier than two x that It's like, if
Speaker 1: you can harness your mental strength and mastery and focus,
Speaker 1: you actually will use less of it, you know, in
Speaker 1: order to get from here to where you want to
Speaker 1: get to. So it's like, how do you do that?
Speaker 1: How do you go from an inexperienced driver to an
Speaker 1: experienced driver because it's easier driving when your experience and
Speaker 1: so that's what he talks about that, like you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know, I'm just for me.
Speaker 1: I'm in search of how do I you know, I
Speaker 1: want to of course I want to be successful, but
Speaker 1: in a way that it does not drain me, Like
Speaker 1: in a way that doesn't require like, ugh, I'm so
Speaker 1: beat up. I don't want to do this anymore. And
Speaker 1: so like I don't want to do because I've hit
Speaker 1: some huge numbers, but it costs nearly everything, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. Like as I kind of
Speaker 1: rebuild what I'm doing in business and things like that,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to build in ease and
Speaker 1: comfort and rest and recovery, and I want to be
Speaker 1: intentional about it and so yeah, so, like I said,
Speaker 1: the book is ten X is greater than two X,
Speaker 1: and I think I might like like read the gap
Speaker 1: in the game after this is all said and done,
Speaker 1: just to like really cement that Reframe is its own book. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's its own book. Although they talk about a lot
Speaker 1: in this book because it's the same two authors, so
Speaker 1: they wrote this book together. And I would suggest that
Speaker 1: do the audio book because in between chapters they have
Speaker 1: a mini podcast almost, so they'll like finish the chapter
Speaker 1: and then the two authors will kind of like shoot
Speaker 1: the breeze about what the chapter is about. How so
Speaker 1: you're not going to get that in the book. So
Speaker 1: if you get the physical book, I definitely recommend the
Speaker 1: audio just for that. Those nuggets and the like fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty minutes in between are really amazing in the audio.
Speaker 1: We you know, Amandy, we need to have a brown
Speaker 1: Ambition Amazon store, do we, Yeah, meaning like so that
Speaker 1: way we could put like books that we're reading. So
Speaker 1: the girls can just probably like.
Speaker 3: You know, like if you make a suggestions and stuff
Speaker 3: like everyone else on TikTok.
Speaker 1: Now I meant like like an Amazon store, meaning like
Speaker 1: the things that like right now, like you have your
Speaker 1: favorite water bottle, but also too, like these are the
Speaker 1: books that we've.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I would love it. I love a bookstore.
Speaker 3: You could do nonfiction books and then I'd be like,
Speaker 3: I'm reading The Viscount Who Loved Me, one of the
Speaker 3: Bridgerton books, listening to it.
Speaker 1: I have a little myself as well. Listen.
Speaker 3: But since you mentioned books, there is a book that
Speaker 3: I'm really excited to listen to by Attica Locke called
Speaker 3: Bluebird Bluebird, which is a novel and she's a black author,
Speaker 3: and her sister wrote from Scratch, which became this incredible
Speaker 3: Netflix series. Anyway, I loved I just I'm excited about
Speaker 3: this book, and I'm yeah, once I'm done with Cowboy Carter,
Speaker 3: I will be listening to some books again. I listened
Speaker 3: to hemrin Or North's Grocery Store, which is like the
Speaker 3: book everyone's talking you know. I didn't like it that much.
Speaker 3: I hate that.
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Speaker 1: Why are you keeping us to yourself? Oh Mandy, someone
Speaker 1: gave me a hug to give to you. You know
Speaker 1: what we're gonna be cause I know like we've been
Speaker 1: like and then and then no. So I told you.
Speaker 1: It was Amelia's seventh birthday, her best friend Elena. Her
Speaker 1: mother's name is Dina and Dina was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying a fangirl, but I love your podcast. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: so shout to you, Dina. If you're listening, please tell me.
Speaker 1: I tell you. I think I said, any right, And
Speaker 1: so she's a big podcast listener.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, she was like she was so cute. Her
Speaker 1: daughter is so cute, Like you know, that's like the
Speaker 1: only question apparently Amelia listens to. I'm like, Dina, can
Speaker 1: you ask a million why she's embarrassed when we come
Speaker 1: visit her at school? And Alina was like, I asked her.
Speaker 1: I don't know why we're gonna ask again. I said yes,
Speaker 1: because apparently she don't talk to nobody but you. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the bottom barre a million don't
Speaker 1: like us to shout her out of school, although she
Speaker 1: does want us to come, so like, shout che Dna,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming to the crib. We had an old
Speaker 1: school birthday party in the living room or dining room,
Speaker 1: all decorated with hello, kitty.
Speaker 3: Stuff there and come back.
Speaker 1: Yes apparently, and so yeah, so that was cute. All right,
Speaker 1: y'all until Friday when we do our b a q A.
Speaker 1: We'll see you then