1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: This Cassidy. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Say something, Bobby, say something, Bobby. Welcome to football today. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: I am your host, Bobby Skinner here with my co 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: host Justin Pennick. And guess what the Atlanta Falcons Cousins 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: out Pennix then Justin, Uh, we're want to hit this 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: from a lot of angles. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: How are we doing? 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 3: I'm good, Bobby Skinner. To get all the questions out 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: of the way. Michael Pennix and I were not related. 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: I asked him down at the Senior Bowl down a 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 3: mobile inter We interviewed him a couple of months ago. 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: We may talk about that a little bit. Down at 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: the Senior Ball. I asked him, do you think we're related? 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: He said, I don't know, maybe, but I'm rolling it out. 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: We're not related. 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: How are you Have you done the twenty three in me? 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: I have didn't? 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: They came back negative. 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Falcons have bench Kirk Cousins. They absolute 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: had to do this right. Justin, I mean, Cousins is 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: just done. You know, maybe after another extra year rehab 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: he can get back to being better than what he 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: is right now. I don't think this was like Matt 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: Ryan level of bad with the Colts or even at 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: the end with the Falcons or like Peyton at the 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: end with the Broncos. But Peyton obviously has the superior 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: mind where he was able to get by in those playoffs. 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: I don't think it's that level justin. But it was 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: just like he he can't push off, right, he can't 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: throw the ball, you know, the way that he wants 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: to write, not attacking down the field. They can only 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: run play action out of pistol. Like just couldn't do 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: all the things that kirk Cousins had done well in 34 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: his career. Like if this was this isn't just like, oh, 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, this is who he is, Like, this is 36 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: not who Kirk Cousins has been. You know, if they 37 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: got Minnesota version of him last year, you know, like 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: health wise, then they're definitely not making this move. But 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: kirk Cousins forced their hand one touchdown, nine interceptions in 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: the last five games and one in four with you know, 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: in the win was an escaping win against the Raiders. 42 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: They basically probably threw away the division already. You know, 43 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: they're they're one game back of the Bucks now they 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: have the tiebreaker for the Bucks, but the Falcons have 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: the Giants, Commanders Panthers, and the Bucks have Cowboys, Panthers, Saint, 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: so the Bucks do have an easier schedule going ahead. 47 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: Now all they need is the Bucks to lose one 48 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: game and the Falcons to win three winnable games. But 49 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: it may be too little, too late, but this just 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: had to happen. 51 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: For the Falcons at this point. 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess we'll touch on first why the 53 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: Falcons needed to make this change, and then I even 54 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: want to ask you then we'll move to full on. 55 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: Michael Pennix, does this change the you know how you 56 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: feel about the draft, pick et cetera, et cetera. But 57 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 3: why the Falcons needed to make this change? Man? You 58 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: talked about them operating out of the pistol thirty six 59 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: and a half percent of their snaps this year. That's 60 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: the fourth highest in the NFL that they've been operating 61 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: out of the pistol. And we're going to talk maybe 62 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: a good amount, a good amount about the Big Bay 63 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: branch of offense. That's what Zach Robinson is a kind 64 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: of off that Sean McVay branch. I am sure that 65 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: this offense wants to operate under center and utilize play 66 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: action and we see what they're doing with these outside 67 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: zone runs with Jon Robinson. You can't do that with 68 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins's inability to move this year. And I think 69 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: that's probably something that I don't know when Cousins kind 70 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: of fully came back it started to practice, but I'm 71 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: sure that's something that maybe the team was shocked by that, 72 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: Oh shit, we're not going to be able to run 73 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: the offense that maybe we fully want this year because 74 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: we have a quarterback that legitimately can't move. Cousins not 75 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: being able to move and take play action rollouts, it's 76 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: taken play action rollouts completely out of the offense. Forget 77 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: even the outside zone stuff. Only eleven outs like play 78 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: action rollouts this year for Kirk Cousins. That's the lowest 79 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: the team has had since twenty seventeen Big Ben, who 80 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: also couldn't move. You know, Kirk Cousins has also been 81 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: like demand in play action, but it's just been totally 82 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: taken away from this offense because he can't move. And 83 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: he even saw against the Raider game and our producer 84 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: Connor was talking to him on the way in today. 85 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: He's a Raider fan, was watching that game and Kirk 86 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: Cousins on these outside zones can't even get the ball 87 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: out there to these running backs when they're operating out 88 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: of pistol, so it's even tough for him to get 89 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: the ball out there. So there's a lot of other 90 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: reasons why, you know, Kirk Cousins not being able to 91 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: use his legs of driving the ball in. He is 92 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: the fourth highest tight window throw rate this year. I 93 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: think a lot of that has to do with the 94 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: the lack of quote unquote arm strength, because he can't 95 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: put his legs into a lot of these throws, and 96 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: because the offense can be so predictable, predictable. So yeah, 97 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: that's they they needed to make this move. And a 98 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: lot of it is just because Kirk Cousins literally literally 99 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: cannot move. 100 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again it's not because of who Kirk Cousins 101 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: was in Washington or Minnesota. It's coming off of the 102 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: achilles injury. He's just he's not the same. It's showed 103 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: up earlier in the year and they found and again 104 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: they still like have yard they still have a lot 105 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: of yards, even you know, not the Falcons game, We're 106 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: only at one hundred or so yards. 107 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: But like even. 108 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: In these higher interception games, Kirk has thrown for yards. 109 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: His mind is still there, and they have the ween 110 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: yards per game, and I think they have offensive the 111 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: offensive play calling is is better, but it just hasn't 112 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: gotten the shine because of Kirk Cousins' limitations. Like all 113 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: that stuff is there. It's just I just worried that 114 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: it is too. I mean, they went one in four 115 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: and I understand making this decisions not easy because the 116 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: investment they made into him, which we're going to talk 117 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: about that when we talk about the decisions with you know, 118 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: bringing in Kirk and Penix and all this, but you know, 119 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: one in one touchdown, nine interceptions, and you go and 120 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: watch the interceptions because interceptions can be a lying stat 121 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: at times. You remember like the year Dak led to 122 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: the league in interceptions a couple of years ago. It's like, okay, 123 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: but he's never he's never done that before, and like 124 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: five of these were tipped up and it was a 125 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: low year for interceptions total in the NFL. With this, 126 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: every almost every single interception was just god awful, ugly 127 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: right where it's just he's popping a football up, he's 128 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: throwing into triple coverage. It was just really bad stuff 129 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: and you didn't have the touchdowns to go with it 130 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: with the only one. I think he limited the run game, 131 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: obviously limited the pass game. You just had to this 132 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: justin Yeah. 133 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like guys like Drake London are coming out of 134 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: their brakes before Kirk is even set and is fully 135 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: dropped before he's done with his dropback. 136 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: You know. 137 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: So again, I don't I want to kind of get 138 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: to the Michael Pennock's part of this. Let's do it 139 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: now now, the. 140 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the draft decision. How about that? 141 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's not necessarily that Michael Pennox, I feel like, 142 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: is going to add this huge dynamic as a quarterback. 143 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 3: But what he's simply going to do is he's going 144 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: to open up the playbook more because he he is 145 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: a capable moving quarterback. And even though he's not a 146 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: mobile quarterback, he's a capable moving quarterback that I think 147 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: some of the core identity things that that Atlanta Falcons 148 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: offense wants to do, they're going to be able to 149 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: do it a lot more now, and I think they're 150 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: going to maybe be able to do it better because 151 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: it's not Kirk Cousins. 152 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not going into it now now you know, 153 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: now we're not you know, run in and gun in 154 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: and we're making throws on the run and screen like 155 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: that's not going to be added with Michael Penicks game, 156 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: which we'll talk about. What you It's just like there 157 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 2: were so many limitations because of the Kirk, the Kirk injury, 158 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: and then we know Penix can make you know, uh, 159 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: you know, basically almost almost all the throws. You know, 160 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: he's got this strong arm. So do you want to 161 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: talk about Michael Pennis in general as a player before 162 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: we talk about the the decision to sign Kirk and 163 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: then draft Michael Pennock for the Falcons. 164 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: Well, let's I want to. I want to let's start 165 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: at the beginning. Let's not quit and Tarantino this and 166 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: work our way backwards. Let's I want to hear your 167 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: thoughts because it was on this show and you had 168 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: a you had a clip that did well after the 169 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: draft about the decision to draft Michael Pennix. Now, obviously 170 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: none none of us really knew, and obviously the Falcons 171 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: didn't freaking know just how physically limited Kirk Cousins would 172 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: be this year. So now that we know, and now 173 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: that we agree with this decision with three games left 174 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: for them to bring up Michael Penix into the mix, 175 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: does that change the way that you view the draft pick, Bobby. 176 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: No, because we we we talked about it in that draft. 177 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: Body even talk about it on the off season, especially 178 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: with some guests. Is that I think, no matter what 179 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: way you paint this, the Falcons messed up somewhere along 180 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: the line, and not just a little mess up, but 181 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: had a major mess up because Kirk Cousins wasn't on 182 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: their team. They signed Kirk Cousins, they invested in this. 183 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: There's been this like media spin won by the you know, 184 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: the bought for you know insiders like man, they are prepared. 185 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: And then you also have the people who are just 186 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: so over infatuated, like, oh, just quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, 187 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: you know, just take take shots. 188 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: Just draft for quarterback every year type of people. Those 189 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: people like it. 190 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: You gave Kirk Cousins a four year, one hundred eighty 191 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: million dollar contract. You weren't forced to do that. You 192 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 2: also weren't forced to pay You didn't have to do 193 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: that to have Michael Pennock sit for a little bit. 194 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: If that was your plan right right, Like you could 195 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: have signed a different quarterback and also let Michael Pennick 196 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: sit for a little bit. You know, Russell Wilson was 197 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: out there, you could have made the trade for Justin Again, 198 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: not guys that are that have you know have you 199 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: know that are going to be killing, you know, changing 200 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: the world. But at the same time, neither is Kirk Cousins. 201 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: You're benching him, you know. But the difference is those 202 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: guys aren't gonna cost you four hundred four years, one 203 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty million dollars. Now, obviously it's not all guaranteed, 204 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: but it's basically a two year deal. 205 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: They have a. 206 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: Sixty five if they cut him, which I don't know 207 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: if anyone's gonna trade for him. They have a sixty 208 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: five million dollar dead cap next year, sixty five million 209 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: dollar dead cap like that, That to me is they 210 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: screwed up terribly on this quarterback contract, terribly. Okay, So 211 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: that's why the whole Michael Pennick's like, oh, well, it 212 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 2: may work out in the end, Like, yeah, Michael Pennix 213 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: ends up good, It may work out in the end. 214 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: Guess what would have worked out in the end, regardless 215 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: Michael Penix. 216 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Then you didn't. 217 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: Again, you were not sitting on a team that Kirk 218 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: Cousin's been their QB for a long time, and they 219 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: went out and signed him as a win now move 220 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: and he can't win now for them. 221 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the decision to draft Michael Pennix looks better, 222 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: but what looks exponentially worse is signing Kirk Cousins. Where 223 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 3: now Kirk Cousins is going to go down in NFL 224 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 3: history as the most expensive bridge quarterback ever. Like that, 225 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: that's what this is. I don't want net now seeing 226 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 3: what Kirk Cousins says, and this doesn't. I still think 227 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: this is very bad process by the Atlanta Falcons. 228 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: It is they should have just signed some use that 229 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: money elsewhere, signed a bridge saying that actual bridge quarterback, 230 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: and drafted Michael Pennix. Right, So again you have everyone 231 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: spending it like, ah, Falcons don't look so crazy after all. 232 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: It's like, yes they do. They just fucking spent They're 233 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: gonna They're gonna spend ninety million dollars on a guy 234 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: who started fourteen games for. 235 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: Them, And now my opinion's flipped. Whereas their draft day, 236 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: I'm like well, why are you drafting Michael Pennocks when 237 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: you sign Kirk Cousins. Now my opinion's flipped where it's like, well, 238 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: why did you sign why did you sign Kirk Cousins? 239 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: And you know what mix it even worse, Bobby, is 240 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: that this costed them a fifth round pick because they 241 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: tampered with Kirk Cousins and over a quarter million dollars 242 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: in fines, which I guarantee they don't fuck and care 243 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: about the fines. But you know, this costs it up 244 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: a fifth round draft pick as well because they tampered 245 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: with Kirk Cousins, because they really because that's how bad 246 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: they wanted to sign him. 247 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how bad they want to sign him. That 248 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: he signed the minute free agency star to Justin and 249 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: they didn't bring him in for a workout to see 250 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: how he was doing physically. 251 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: I don't even know if he was cleared. 252 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: That's no, he wasn't. 253 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: But still, like you could have gotten a idea somewhat 254 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: of an idea, like they didn't they they couldn't have 255 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: given him a physical or anything like that. Like I 256 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe that's a reach on my point, but 257 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: just like again, like if you listen to our Draft day, 258 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: you know, our first round recap pod. It's like it is, 259 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: it's very stupid. It's very stupid for the Falcons to 260 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: sign Kirk Cousins and then draft Michael Pennix. Okay, you 261 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: do one or the other. That was always the argument 262 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: against the Falcons. Do one or the other. And you're 263 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: putting yourself like and at myth Kirk Cousins. You didn't 264 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 2: tell Kirk that you were going to even think about 265 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 2: doing this. You know he was bothered after the draft 266 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: on like, you just created a mess. And you know what, 267 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: if they drafted a bridge quarterback or signed an actual 268 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: bridge quarterback, they would have they could have went to 269 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: Michael Pennix a little earlier and maybe even gotten into 270 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: the playoffs because they basically had a walk in when 271 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: the Falcon and the Bucks got all injured and then 272 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins has this stretch and they lose four straight games. 273 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we knew that schedule. I mean, coming into 274 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: the here, we knew that. You know, we knew this 275 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 3: Falcon schedule was just an absolute cake walk this year. 276 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: Number one, because you're playing in the NFC South, Like 277 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: Number two, they did just have a kick. 278 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: Now the Falcons know they screwed up is because they 279 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: played them this long into it, right, because like, oh 280 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: we can't, we can't just bench this investment. Like this 281 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: was tough for them because they this was not their 282 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: plan at all. So again, Michael Pennox maybe end up 283 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: looking great. And we looked back at it and it's 284 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: like a, well, yeah, we wasted a ton of money 285 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: and could have brought in this free agent, but and 286 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: then we got our franchise quarterback. St We're happy. That's 287 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: all fine and dandy. But that's never the argument against 288 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: the Falcons. 289 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: Like, right, get it. 290 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of times whenever a team 291 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: does get the And again, I don't think Pennix is 292 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: going to be this. I think he can look good 293 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: in this offense at times, but I just I don't 294 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: look at the Falcons. I'm like, man, look at these 295 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: geniuses thinking ten steps. No, this is not Jordan Love 296 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: on the Packers, isn't This is not the same situation 297 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: at all. 298 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 3: No, they cost themselves a lot a lot of money 299 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: and now they are in a situation where they are praying, 300 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: they are praying that a team will take on Kirk Cousins' 301 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: twenty seven and a half million dollar base salary next year, 302 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: and then I think the Falcons would only need to eat, 303 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: would only would only need to eat like thirty thirty 304 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: some million, thirty seven and a half million next year, 305 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: and then and then luck then if they're lucky, they 306 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: have no twenty twenty six dead cap and they just 307 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: have to eat almost forty million the next year. So 308 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: I mean, they better hope that a team wants to 309 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: take that on. And then you're only going to get 310 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 3: a six round. 311 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: Draft pick back. 312 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: You're getting a Day three draft pick back for Kirk Cousins. So, Bobby, 313 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: before we talk about what Michael Pennix can bring to 314 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 3: the table, since I think that's the really beef of 315 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: this conversation, can I talk to you about something? 316 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: Talk to me about something. 317 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: Draft Kings, Baby. 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Because at the end of the day, they're 348 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: they're just making a change of quarterback. So I'll be 349 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: honest as a So we are New York Giants fans, 350 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: and so we have the pulse of the team. From 351 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: the Giants fan point of view, it's like, let's see 352 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: who they passed on with Michael Pennix. From my point 353 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: of view, I'm like, let's see Zach Robinson without the 354 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: most limited quarterback of all time. But let's talk about 355 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: Michael Pennix as a player justin. You know, we did 356 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: a lot of work on him. You know, we you know, 357 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: did our full quarterback draft previews last year. There's a 358 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: lot we interviewed him in Mobile, Alabama. He was the best. 359 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: He looked like the best quarterback down there with bow Nicks. 360 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: He can read defenses. He sees the rotations that like 361 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: defenses use and has good recall to come back to 362 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: a play and you know he sees something a defense 363 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: that like got him on something. 364 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: You know, he's got. 365 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: A strong arm, right, It's not this crazy you know, 366 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: Josh Allen type arm. 367 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: But he has a strong arm. 368 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: He's fairly accurate with a clean pocket, and he's aggressive, 369 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: you know, throw the ball deep twenty one percent of 370 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: the time. And another thing that can be his good 371 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: a good thing and a bad thing for him is 372 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: he's not gonna take sacks. He will get rid of 373 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: the ball if he whether it's just hey, my internal 374 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: clalk is up. Let's throw this ball with whatever I 375 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: got to the best option or throw the ball away. 376 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: But that can also harm him, right he throws, especially 377 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: when there is real pressure and not just like a 378 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: play is kind of you know, falling apart. He'll throw 379 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: the ball in harm's way. You know, he had eleven 380 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: interceptions in fifteen games last year, nine of fifteen games 381 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: with an interception. And when pressured, he will panic and 382 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: they act. It's not just like decision making. The accuracy 383 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: suffers greatly when he's pressured because he doesn't have the career. 384 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: Part to his game. 385 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: There's just no creation outside the pocket with his legs. 386 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: That being said, though, I think this is a great 387 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: fit for somebody from the Sean McVay Tree and Zach 388 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: Robinson with this running game with these weapons, because despite 389 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: the fact that Kirk has been limited, you know, Kirk 390 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: has thrown for thirty five hundred yards this year. 391 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: You know, they're six and. 392 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: Passing yards, they're twelfth in rushing yards, they're ninth, and 393 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: yards per play, they're seventh and yards per drive. You know, 394 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 2: at one point this year, Darnell Mooney was fourth and 395 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: receiving in the NFL. Like at like week nine, he 396 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: was fourth in the NFL and receiving yards. Whenever we 397 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: did our mid season All Pro I was like, oh 398 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: my god, Darnell Mooney is up here and Drake London 399 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: was right behind him. This is a good spot. It 400 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of like maybe we could see 401 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: what happened with Jared Goff early with the rams, where 402 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: it's a little bit telling him where it is running 403 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: play action. They'll be able to do that more if 404 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: they face a team that's going to pressure him like 405 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: crazy and get after him and Discott's coverages the same 406 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: the way the Michigan did last year in the National Championship. Yeah, 407 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: it'll be a mess, but I think he's getting into 408 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: a pretty nice situation. This is why we love the Falcons. 409 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: You know this year with the quarterback and having to 410 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: play the Giants who have almost every starting dB is 411 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: injured except for like they're probably won their worst starters 412 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: in Jason Pinnock. The Commanders, who, despite their success this year, 413 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: lack a lot of talent on defense, and then the 414 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, the worst passing defense in the NFL. Like 415 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: this is a nice landing spot for Michael Pennix to 416 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: start his career. 417 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, that offensive line is still holding up pretty 418 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: well in you know, true pass set grades and stuff 419 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: like that. We know the we know the talent that 420 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 3: they have there. I love Drake London for this offense 421 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: and this quarterback in particular. Drake London I think is 422 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: up there in terms of contested catch guys that can 423 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: go up and get it, like with with a George Pickens. 424 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: Darnold Mooney somehow has like four yards per reception more 425 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: than Drake London. I hope that changes. 426 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: I hope Drake kind of. 427 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 2: Like that dynamic where London's their main guy and Mooney 428 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: is looking he's gonna get those big plays Like you 429 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: see that with a lot of teams where they have 430 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: their number one who's their go to guy and then 431 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: their number two is the guy who's gonna average fifteen 432 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: yards per catch. 433 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, uh you know. And you you talked about 434 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 3: Penis limiting sacks in college, which that was very true. 435 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: I have I have that same note. What I think 436 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: Penix is going to bring this is again what Cousins 437 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: did not bring. And this is what makes Penix different 438 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: of you know, you're not going to see the plays 439 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: like Lamar and Josh Allen and Mahomes where we're running 440 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 3: around and extending plays like that. But I would say, 441 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: you know the ceiling and what you want to strive 442 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: for is Michael Penix can be a guy like maybe 443 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: like a Joe Burrow where you can extend plays within 444 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: inside the pocket. I don't think he's going to be 445 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: doing that outside the pocket and making guys miss and 446 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 3: extending plays that way. But that is a guy that 447 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 3: can extend plays inside the pocket, and that's gonna have 448 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: to be a key for him in the NFL. Can 449 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 3: he stay calm, canny, stay cool, Kenny, stay collected in 450 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: the NFL. In the NFL doing that and even on 451 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: place where he's holding the ball for longer than two 452 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: and a half seconds, his pressure to sack rate was 453 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 3: still impressively low, where it's like, hey, you look like 454 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: a guy like Kayleb Williams. Where you hold on to 455 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: the ball for longer than two and a half seconds. 456 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 3: What in the world is gonna happen? What are you 457 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: going to do with the ball? That's been a little 458 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: bit of an issue this year, right where Michael PENNOCKX 459 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: in college was not an issue for him. 460 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, his issue is the issues Like there's a guy 461 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: like Josh Allen who like, oh, is pressure of the 462 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 2: sack rate is great and he's creating big plays out 463 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: of it. With Pennix, it's more of like, all right, 464 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: we're just gonna throw it or or trying or try 465 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: and throw it away to avoid that sack, which is good. 466 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: You don't want to avoid those sacks, but that's where 467 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: it gets in harm's way. 468 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: So listen. I think this is a good. 469 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: Spot for any young quarterback or you know, I guess 470 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: Michael Penox isn't the youngest guy, but any rookie quarterback. 471 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: The Falcons I think are a very nice offensive structure. 472 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm really I think Zach Robinson can get a head 473 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: coaching gig off. These next three games. You know, I'm 474 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: someone who loves the Sean McVay tree. You saw hires 475 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: like Matt Lafleur and Kevin O'Connell get bocked in the moment, 476 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: and guess where they're at right now, you know, with 477 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: the top combined five losses on the year or whatever, 478 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: maybe combined you know, yeah, combined five losses on the year. 479 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: So I think he can get I think this is 480 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: a really good offense that was just like man Kirk 481 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: Cousins can't do anything now Pennick's long term I still 482 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: you know, I didn't view him as someone that was 483 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 2: worthy of the eighth overall pick. I view him as 484 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: someone like when shit breaks down, it's it'd be one 485 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: thing if like, hey, you had some turnovers in those moments, 486 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: but the accuracy suffers when he's under pressure. You know, 487 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: go back and watch that Michion game. You don't want 488 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: to judge a guy off one game, but when they 489 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: when the when there's pressure and the picture on defense 490 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: is not clear, that the accuracy suffers. Like even the 491 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: preseason game he played was pretty good. You saw some 492 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: good moments in there, m but you like, see if 493 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: I can even find my notes I went and watched 494 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: every furrow from that one when we did on it, 495 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: and it was like, man, the actor's seat, Like he's 496 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: missed on like half of these. 497 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: These furrows. 498 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 2: If I can find my notes, I actually charted it 499 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: from that preseason game, but yeah, justin go ahead say 500 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: something while I find these notes. 501 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and confident that might and Michael Penix's arm. 502 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 3: But the one thing that I wanted to add that 503 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 3: I'm a little hesitant on is the quick game. You know, 504 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see him sling it. We're gonna 505 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: see him sling it to Mooney, We're gonna see him, Hey, 506 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: even get Kyle Pitts involved. We're gonna see him sling 507 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: it to Drake London. But the one thing that I 508 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: have a little bit of a question on is a 509 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 3: lot of the quick game at Washington was short passes 510 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: and screens to the outside, but utilizing the middle of 511 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: the field and attacking all three levels of the field. 512 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: That's something that you kind of need to do with 513 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 3: the NFL. That's not really what he did at Washington. 514 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of it was towards the 515 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: sideline when it's short, and then if it's long again, 516 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: you're attacking the sideline, you're going deep, you're going vertical 517 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 3: in that grub offense. Just think of how many big 518 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: plays was like, you know Michael Pennis, and this is 519 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: good on him. You're the arm talent, you're showing the accuracy, 520 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 3: but it was kind of just giving his top three 521 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: wide receivers, you know, particularly Polk and you know Romo Dunesa, 522 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 3: just giving them almost contested catch opportunities. 523 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: Which the Falcons have. 524 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: Washington was right, and they can replicate that for sure, 525 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 3: and they could replicate these quick little passes to you 526 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: have these weapons, you have guys that are good with 527 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: yards after the catch, so that is something that you 528 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: can replicate. And in terms of Bobby's point about pressure, 529 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: I think if there's ever a situation or if there's 530 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 3: a game or a scheme that the Falcons feel like 531 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 3: there's gonna be a team that's going to bring pressure, 532 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: you know, maybe even the Giants, Like the Giants have 533 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: a decent pass rush still, you know, heading into the Sunday, 534 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: I could very much see play action rollouts and getting 535 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: him away from the pressure. And that's an answer to 536 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: how can we get this guy throwing from a clean space, 537 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: play action rollouts is the way to go, and again 538 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: they could not do that with Kirk Cousins. 539 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: Again, it's very similar to what the Rams did with 540 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: Jared Goff, who had similar issues where it's like, when 541 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: it's clean and the reads there, he's got it. When 542 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: they're pressure, it breaks down. But like you know my 543 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: preseason like that nine for six teen, one hundred and 544 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: four yard game, Like here's my note, miss deep shot 545 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: on third down, but good read of safety, rotation, corner, 546 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: a little too wide, deep ball versus cover three. Guy 547 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: gets beat, nice ball, ball sailed on an out route 548 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: move linebacker with a pump to hit dig over the middle, 549 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: miss deep on an alert good stick flat to get 550 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: third and goal at the one, then miss the fade, 551 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: missed the checkdown flat behind the guy a third down 552 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: almost interception on. So like we didn't see him light 553 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 2: the world up on fire in those most but even 554 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: though you do see good stuff. So three years from now, 555 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: am I gonna be like, man, look at this. 556 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 557 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: With Michael Pennix to be one hundred percent real, But 558 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: I think this is a great opportunity for him in 559 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: these last three games and I think the Falcons are 560 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: a pretty good offensive situation as being that's been held 561 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: back significantly by Kirk Cousins. 562 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if anything, we can, maybe we could 563 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: even wrap this up by giving a little bit of 564 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: a preview. What what do we expect this Sunday, Bobby 565 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 3: going up against our New York Football Giant and what 566 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 3: is a completely decimated defense? And if the Falcons are smart, 567 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: Michael Pennix isn't throwing the ball more than sixteen seventeen 568 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: times this game because they should just run the damn ball. 569 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: Well, here's the issues. 570 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: The Giants have started playing run defense very heavily since 571 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: they lost Exter Lawrence, and their dbs are like a 572 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: lot of their touchdowns that the Ravens had were like 573 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: their corners just playing the run way too heavy and 574 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: guys getting behind them. So I think they can they 575 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: I think Penics have a big they They're starting corners 576 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: were in this most recent game where two guys who 577 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: weren't on the roster last week, and then Isaiah Simmons 578 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: who's a linebacker. 579 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: That's that's what their starting corner group was. 580 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: And then a bad a bad safety duo and Dane 581 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: Belton and Jason Pinnock or some people call him Justin Pinnock. 582 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: By the way, go if you're listening to this from 583 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: the go, check out the first twelve minutes of our 584 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 2: podcast talking Giants. That's a little more Nationals. That's shocking, shocking. 585 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: It's gonna be our most listened to episode ever because 586 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: of how shocking the Giants are, how dumb they are. 587 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 2: But let me say this, if he struggles against this 588 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: Giants team, Like, you don't want to judge a guy 589 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: off his first game, good or bad. Right, We've seen 590 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: the good where you have the Will Levis's, Daniel Jones, 591 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: Marcus Mariotas who lighted up in their first game and 592 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 2: then look at them now. But I'll be disappointed if 593 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 2: Michael Pennicky doesn't light up this Giants offense. 594 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: Again. 595 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: I don't need him to throw the ball thirty times, 596 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: but he should be averaging eight to ten yards per attempt. Yeah, 597 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: you know, hitting passes over the middle and have a 598 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: touchdown or two. 599 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. 600 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 2: But I'm excited for I'm just excited for the Falcons 601 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: offense to be able to run without just extreme limitations 602 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: at the quarterbacks, which is what they were dealing with. 603 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: Like it hurt every aspect of that offense. Having Kirk 604 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: Cousins that quarterback, You know, yes, and it's not because 605 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: of who Kirk Cousins has been in his career, right, 606 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: if Kirk Cousins is not injured. Yes, their limitations Kirk 607 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 2: kirk Cousins not a great quarterback, sure, but he's a 608 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: pretty damn good quarterback. But when you have those physical limitations, 609 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: it's just hard to do it. And I still think 610 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: they did pretty damn well considering all of that. Justin 611 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: do you have anything else on this before we head out? 612 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: No, nothing else. 613 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: This is a fun episode. 614 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: Get the fucking dive deep on a thirty minutes on 615 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: just one subject. How about that. We appreciate you, guys. 616 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: We will see you on Friday. Until then, that is 617 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: football today.