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Speaker 1: Rick Spielman makes a ton of sense. He's worked in

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Speaker 1: He was kind of like a Bruce Arians type. Wasn't

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Speaker 1: if I was Josh Harris, I would want Rick Spielman

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Speaker 1: might suck because Bill is petty, he's old school, he's curmudgeony. Uh,

427
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Speaker 1: he's just he's not gonna take it well, which I

428
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Speaker 1: don't blame him. But some divorces, like Andy Reid, he

429
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Speaker 1: got fired. He addressed the entire organization in Philadelphia in

430
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Speaker 1: the cafeteria I remember. So it's like everyone's a little different.

431
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Speaker 1: This one. It's sad because it shouldn't be as ugly,

432
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Speaker 1: but probably will be. And I'm not going to get

433
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Speaker 1: into every coach so far, teams that have extended. We

434
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Speaker 1: want to interview this guy, We want to interview that guy,

435
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Speaker 1: because it's pretty clear that a lot of coordinators get interviewed. Obviously,

436
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: you know that the former head coaches, the big name guys.

437
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Speaker 1: I do, from personal experience, can say I think Adam

438
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Speaker 1: Peters is easily the best general manager candidate on the

439
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: open market. And it shows you, like he didn't get

440
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Speaker 1: the Carolina job a couple of years ago, wanted it,

441
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Speaker 1: tried to get it, they went with Fitter. So sometimes

442
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: in life, when you want something professionally and it doesn't

443
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Speaker 1: go your way, might be the best thing that ever

444
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Speaker 1: happened to you. Here's what Adam Peters did. He played

445
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Speaker 1: at UCLA, he became you know, started at the ground

446
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: floor with like the Josh McDaniels, Patricia crew in personnel

447
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Speaker 1: in New England, worked his way up, saw multiple championships

448
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: in the first Prady era with Rabel and those guys.

449
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: Then in the late two thousands went with John Elway

450
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Speaker 1: or twenty ten or whatever, this specific year to the

451
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos was a part of that. Peyton Manning run

452
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Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl there, and then John Lynch's first

453
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Speaker 1: hire in twenty seventeen was Adam Peters. So this entire

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch, Run, Adam Peters has been there.

455
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Speaker 1: They haven't won a Super Bowl yet, but they've obviously

456
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Speaker 1: had some of elite teams. So Bill Belichick, New England

457
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Speaker 1: Patriots Super Bowl, John Elway Peyton manning Super Bowl San Francisco,

458
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, John said, how much more experience can you

459
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Speaker 1: have at the highest level of winning? To me, it's

460
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Speaker 1: a no brainer. If I was the Raiders, if I

461
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Speaker 1: was the Chargers, if I was the Commanders, I would

462
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Speaker 1: be all over Adam Peters. I'm not a victory lap

463
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Speaker 1: guy because when I say something won, it's either opinion

464
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: or two Like, I'm not a media guy. I'm not

465
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Speaker 1: a journalist. I have a lot of information because I

466
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Speaker 1: happen to know a lot of people in the National

467
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Speaker 1: Football League, from assistant coaches to general managers, to assistant

468
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: general managers to just area scouts, and I get a

469
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Speaker 1: lot of information and a lot of times when I

470
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Speaker 1: talk about football, I used their information to shape my opinion. Well,

471
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: about a month and a half ago, I told everybody

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Speaker 1: it's like, it wasn't reporting. I was just telling you

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Speaker 1: what I was hearing. That Wink Martindale and the defensive

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Speaker 1: staff hated Brian Dable and the volume put you know,

475
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Speaker 1: a clip out. A bunch of New York blogs got

476
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Speaker 1: it and just were calling me an idiot. A bunch

477
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Speaker 1: of guys were like, I've never seen you at training camp. Yeah,

478
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Speaker 1: I don't go to your training camp, never have, never will.

479
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: I don't need to go to get this information. But

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Speaker 1: I just told you that this. They don't like the guy,

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Speaker 1: and today Wink Martindale quit retired from the Giant, said

482
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Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm not working with this guy. It was

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Speaker 1: clear the last month when they played in a couple

484
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Speaker 1: of national televised games. One night, Trey Been and Joe

485
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Speaker 1: Buck bet with them. They're like, yeah, that was kind

486
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Speaker 1: of weird. He didn't like them. He didn't want to

487
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Speaker 1: work with them. They fired a bunch of coaches day

488
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Speaker 1: all their coaches want out. The Giants have a major problem,

489
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Speaker 1: and it's Brian day Ball interacting with his assistant coaches.

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Speaker 1: This is a I don't know, Brian da Ball. I'm

491
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Speaker 1: just being told this information and then it was validated today.

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Speaker 1: None of this stuff is like I don't have a

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Speaker 1: agenda with anything. That's one of the rare instances when

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Speaker 1: I just laid out one hundred percent what I was

495
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: hearing internally about a team and it came to fruition.

496
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: I knew about it a month and a half ago,

497
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Speaker 1: and as I said, then, if you watch the moment

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Speaker 1: when day Ball hands Wink martin Dale the game ball,

499
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Speaker 1: they didn't hug. Brian day Ball was making it about

500
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Speaker 1: himself because he knew it would be on camera. That

501
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: was one of the fakest moments of the National Football

502
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Speaker 1: regular season in twenty twenty three, and it was proven

503
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Speaker 1: today when Wink Martindale couldn't get out of their faster

504
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Speaker 1: he lied for the last month. Don't blame them because

505
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: you know he's still coaching the players. He doesn't want

506
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Speaker 1: to have them think he quit on them because he didn't.

507
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Speaker 1: He coached throughout the season. He just was never gonna

508
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Speaker 1: work with Brian day Ball again. Wig Martindale's good at

509
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Speaker 1: his job and he's going to have a lot of options,

510
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Speaker 1: and I think to me, him leaving is a direct

511
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Speaker 1: reflection of Brian day ball ability. Part of being a

512
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Speaker 1: head coach is more than just working with a quarterback

513
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Speaker 1: or scheming an offense, which day Ball does not do,

514
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Speaker 1: but it's working with your coaching staff that is a

515
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 1: tough It's not easy to do. That's why good coaches

516
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: are good at it. Guys that are over their head

517
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: struggle with it. And clearly Brian Daball has a lot

518
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Speaker 1: of maturing to do when it comes to being a

519
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: head coach and managing down because it's easy to kiss

520
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: the owner's ass that's paying you ten million dollars a year.

521
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Speaker 1: Can you get along with your defensive coordinator who kind

522
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Speaker 1: of knows what he's doing. Because to me, one of

523
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Speaker 1: the better aspects of the New York Giants for the

524
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: last couple of years has not been the offense. Their

525
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Speaker 1: offense like Week eighteen against the Gutlass Eagles team that

526
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Speaker 1: wasn't a normal occurrence for them, but usually their defense

527
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: is pretty good kept him in a lot of games

528
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Speaker 1: and week Martindale, I don't know exactly contractually how this

529
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Speaker 1: is all going to work, but he'll have options. A

530
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Speaker 1: couple other things. Just wanted to hit on some quick

531
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Speaker 1: injury up dates. I understand why they played Sam Laporta.

532
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Speaker 1: He was trying to break a rookie record. He hurt

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Speaker 1: his knee, and as Dan Campbell said, today is an

534
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: outside chance to play on Sunday night, So not ideal,

535
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Speaker 1: but I think it's fair to say, like probably unlikely

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Speaker 1: that Sam Laporta plays, and that sucks, and that's a

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Speaker 1: major blow. That's why I told Colin on Sunday night, Like,

538
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Speaker 1: I can't pick Detroit until I know this guy's status.

539
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: And if you tell me he's not playing, and he's

540
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Speaker 1: definitely gonna be compromised if he does. Let's assume he's

541
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Speaker 1: like fifty percent. That's a major problem. That is a

542
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: huge blow for their offense because Laporta was elite this season.

543
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Speaker 1: He's I mean, he looks like a superstar. So that sucks. TJ.

544
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Speaker 1: Watt I said from the jump that this is not

545
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Speaker 1: a successful year in Pittsburgh. It's just not. It's not

546
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Speaker 1: because I picked him. Now, I saw some people you're

547
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Speaker 1: just saying that because you picked him on with the division. No,

548
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: because as the season played out that they wasted a

549
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: ton of games on mister Bisky and they were in

550
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: a position where they had to play everybody against the

551
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Speaker 1: Ravens who did not and then their best player got

552
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: hurt and as his brother I think broke the news

553
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: has a grade two mcl sprain, who's out? Who is

554
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: not gonna play this week? So you were missing your

555
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: best player because you were forced to play him in

556
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Speaker 1: a game that you had to win to just give

557
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Speaker 1: yourself a chance to make the playoffs. So and maybe listen.

558
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: He might have tried to play anyway to break a

559
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: sack record or not a sack record, but be the

560
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Speaker 1: leader in sacks for the season. You know he'd already

561
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Speaker 1: been paid. I doubt it if they were already a

562
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Speaker 1: lock to be in the playoffs. But that is a

563
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: devastating entry. Not like I would have loved Pittsburgh even

564
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Speaker 1: if he was playing, But that sucks. Gabe Davis, who's

565
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: had some incredible moments for the Bills over the years,

566
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Speaker 1: specifically in the playoffs, remember that Chiefs game. He would

567
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: look like Jerry Rice once upon a time, but has

568
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: a PCL sprain and is questionable this week. That's a

569
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: pretty big blow. Jalen Hurts turned out his finger no fracture,

570
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: but clearly he's been banged up all year, his fingers

571
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: pointing a different direction. Major question marks on Ag Brown

572
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: and his knee and DeVante Smith in his ankle. Obviously

573
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Speaker 1: to me, if Jalen's gonna play, but those other if

574
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Speaker 1: they can't go, like losing is a possibility for the Eagles,

575
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Speaker 1: and if losing is a possibility, if Sirianni they started

576
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: ten in one and they finished eleven and six, So

577
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: he went one in five down the stretch. If they

578
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: were to lose the Tampa Bay, I don't know. Man,

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Speaker 1: we've seen crazier. If he got fired, I'll tell you

580
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: that something on the draft. I think it's pretty clear

581
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Speaker 1: we don't know exactly. Everyone acts like eber Flus is

582
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: a lock to be back. I'll believe it after a

583
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Not that I don't believe it, but

584
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: like listen, sometimes Peep's ownership and organizations say something and

585
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: then Thursday of the week at guy's fired. So let's

586
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Speaker 1: just let's just see how this next ten days plays out.

587
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: But I do think the Bears are an incredible position. One.

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00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: Obviously they're gonna trade fields. Justin Field is not gonna

589
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: be on the team next year. You can't throw from

590
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: within the pocket. You can't throw from within the pocket.

591
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: You can't win big games. They lost that game yesterday

592
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: because one quarterback could and the other quarterback couldn't. And

593
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: the one quarterback that could is on the Packers and

594
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: look dramatically better because he is. He's a much better

595
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Speaker 1: player than Justin Fields now, because of the quarterback desperation

596
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: and because he still has positive things going for him.

597
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to trade him. I don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly how much. My first inclination was like a third rounder.

599
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Speaker 1: But then what if multiple teams are bidding. Maybe you

600
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Speaker 1: get a couple threes, Maybe you get a two and

601
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Speaker 1: a three. Seems a little bold for a guy that

602
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, are you gonna pay him a large contract

603
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: in a couple of years? I don't know, but they

604
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: would get something a value. Well, if they take a

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Speaker 1: quarterback number one overall, they have the ninth pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft, which is their own pick. Well, think, let's

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00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: just assume three other quarterbacks go. So they take Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams number one. Three other guys go between two and

609
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Speaker 1: pick eight. That means that four other position players beside

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks would be off the board. So depending on the

611
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: Bears draft order, they are gonna end up with the

612
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: quarterback they want in this draft. I'm assuming it's Kayleb Williams.

613
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Speaker 1: It could be someone else, a top five player on

614
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: their draft board. This couldn't work out any better. You're

615
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: gonna end up with a new upgrade at quarterback in

616
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Speaker 1: theory and one of the best players in the draft.

617
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: So losing that game yesterday one was good because we

618
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: don't even need to pretend about this justin fields thing anymore.

619
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Speaker 1: And two, it helped your draft position because you weren't

620
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: making the playoffs anyway, you already had some positive momentum.

621
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Speaker 1: You have a bunch of good younger defensive players. DJ

622
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: Moore is a really good player, You got some young

623
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. But now you have the chance to get

624
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: one of the best players in what looks like a

625
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: pretty talented draft. Whether you go with a lineman, whether

626
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: you go with one of the skill guys on the

627
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: outside to pair with Dj Moore, maybe a tight end

628
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: from Georgia falls da, but you're gonna have options and

629
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: you have a real, real chance to really improve your team.

630
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: So if I'm a Bears fan, one will see how

631
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: this plays out with the coach and the organization. But

632
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited about my options about getting a new

633
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: young quarterback and to getting another good, really really young

634
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: impact player because a lot of time won a team

635
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: like the last couple of years, like the Lions or

636
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: the Lions last year, right, they had the high pick,

637
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: and they also had their own pick, but they had

638
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: gone nine to eight, so like one pick was like

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Speaker 1: eighteen and the other pick was six, right, Remember a

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Speaker 1: couple of years previously, I forget the team? Was it

641
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Speaker 1: the Eagles? Was the last year the Eagles? You know,

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Speaker 1: you have a pick in the single digits and another

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Speaker 1: pick in the twenties. You have picked one and picked nine,

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Speaker 1: and you just had a relatively successful second half of

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Speaker 1: the season. So I would be really really excited on

646
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Speaker 1: the Lions. And last, but not least, I just want

647
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Speaker 1: to hit on something that's near and dear to my heart.

648
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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods and Nike broke up. Today, I'm wearing a

649
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Speaker 1: Nike button up shirt because it was the only purple

650
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Speaker 1: thing I had in my closet, and I'm recording this

651
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Speaker 1: before the Washington Huskies played the Michigan Wolverines. I wanted

652
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: to support the Huskies because I got some money on them.

653
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Speaker 1: But I think that partnership is one of the most

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Speaker 1: important thing to ever happen to business casual wear. I

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Speaker 1: think it literally changed society because when Tiger got with Nike.

656
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Speaker 1: Obviously people have always worn collar shirts, but I think

657
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Speaker 1: the high level collared shirt, like I know in my

658
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Speaker 1: adult life right in the two thousands and definitely in

659
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Speaker 1: my professional life in the twenty tens, up till now,

660
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Speaker 1: you could go into any business setting. How many people

661
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: listening to this right now? That you know fifteen years

662
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: ago that Nike polo that all the other companies copied

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Speaker 1: you wore to work, So like, if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: not a suit guy at work, you could put a

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Speaker 1: pair of jeans or a pair of Slax and a

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Speaker 1: collared shirt on the nice dry fit in where to

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Speaker 1: work and look nice like. I don't know if that

668
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Speaker 1: was happening in the eighties and the seventies and the sixties,

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Speaker 1: and that officially happened in nineteen ninety six when Tiger

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Speaker 1: Woods and Phil Knight connected, And if you've read Shoe Dog,

671
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Speaker 1: Phil Knight to close that deal. Nike was already massive

672
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Speaker 1: in the mid nineties. Obviously, Michael Jordan was a rocket ship.

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Speaker 1: Followed Tiger Woods at his third US Amateur he was

674
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Speaker 1: about to turn pro. Every single round for like six

675
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Speaker 1: straight days. Phil Knight followed him every single hole to

676
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Speaker 1: close deal. And I think him and Michael are easily

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Speaker 1: the two most important people in the history of that company.

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Speaker 1: I think you could make the next take the next

679
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Speaker 1: ten people in that company. Lebron's Kobe's Tennis players. I

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Speaker 1: think when you look at financially, maybe they'd add up

681
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Speaker 1: to be the equivalent. But when you look at the

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Speaker 1: cultural impact of Tiger on polo shirts and Michael on shoes,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the next twenty have even close to

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Speaker 1: the impact. And obviously the next ten to twenty guys

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Speaker 1: have had massive impacts in the business of Nike. But

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Speaker 1: I think what he did to the business casual wear

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Speaker 1: in this country. I can't speak for like Italy and France,

688
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Speaker 1: but I just know friends that work in New York

689
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Speaker 1: and Florida and Texas and San Francisco and Arizona. And

690
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: think of all these companies now, right from Travis Matthews

691
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Speaker 1: to Linksoul to all these different pollos that you might

692
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Speaker 1: be wearing on your way to work right now listening

693
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Speaker 1: to this all spawned from that partnership twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 1: People building these brands and this apparel that's comfortable, that

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Speaker 1: looks good, that you can wear on a date, that

696
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: you could wear to work, that you can wear lounging

697
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Speaker 1: around the house, barbecuing, and that just listened. When I

698
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Speaker 1: was a kid in the early nineties, that shit didn't

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Speaker 1: really exist. It wasn't most colored shirts not only weren't comfortable,

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Speaker 1: they didn't look good. And to me, Tiger changed the

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Speaker 1: collared shirt just being cool, slick. Look, I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: many of you listening don't own some sort of Nike

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Speaker 1: polo in your closet. I'd be stunned if we had

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that listen and watch this podcast

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of you. I don't care what age are,

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Speaker 1: whether you're ten or whether you're sixty five. I don't

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Speaker 1: care what you do for a living. I would imagine

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Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority have some sort of Nike dry Fit

709
00:35:51,640 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: polo in the closet. We'll start with Shay honestly didn't

710
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Speaker 1: even know this was a thing. Haven't been too locked

711
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: into the internet today besides some Black Monday stuff. But

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Speaker 1: Rudolph or Picket, who would you start? Is this? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Is this something that's being talked about right now? Like

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Speaker 1: is there controversy on who's gonna be the Steeler starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback this weekend? I honestly I didn't know, because to me,

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Speaker 1: there there is no debate. Make sure we're enough starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a starting quarterback till you lose, which

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Speaker 1: I expect you to lose his weekend, But under no

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Speaker 1: circumstances are you going back to can't he Pickett? At

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Speaker 1: this point you can't. I mean the season changed when

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Speaker 1: you put in Mason Rudolph. To me, it's pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: What is your opinion on Dennis Allen apologizing to Arthur

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Speaker 1: Smith and how does the team not listening to him

724
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Speaker 1: overriding his decision to take a knee not prove that

725
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Speaker 1: the players do not respect him and he has lost

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Speaker 1: the locker room. Well, if you listen to Sunday's podcast

727
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Speaker 1: after I react to the bills, I hit on it.

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Speaker 1: Now at the time, Arthur Smith hadn't been fired yet,

729
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Speaker 1: so it makes a little more sense why he was

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Speaker 1: super mad. He was on tilt, you know, getting embarrassed

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Speaker 1: by Dennis Allen and Derek Carr was the nail in

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Speaker 1: his coffin. But I understand after just watching everything over

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Speaker 1: the last Dennis Allen told when you're a head coach

734
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Speaker 1: and I tell you to run left and you run right.

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00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: When I tell you to pass the ball and you

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Speaker 1: run the ball. When I tell you to blitz and

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Speaker 1: you don't blitz. When I tell you the meetings at

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Speaker 1: eight am and you show up at eight twenty am.

739
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: I get like a huge part of football is authority.

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00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: I clicked on Shannon and chad Ocho Sinka last night

741
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: and Shannon was crushing Jamis, saying that, like, basically, you

742
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: can't have in football if people aren't willing to listen

743
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: to the head coach regardless of what he says in

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00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 1: a moment like that, he can't be the head coach.

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00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: He lacks the authority. Like I didn't really think about

746
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Speaker 1: it like that. There is some credence to that, somewhat

747
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Speaker 1: of a unique situation. I understand there in victory, formation

748
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: wanted to get Jamala touchdown. But I get it. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'd fired Dennis Allin. I don't think he's good enough,

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Speaker 1: really good defensive coordinator. Head coach, you just missed the

751
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: playoffs in a horrendous division, right, You get these two

752
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: wins at the end of the season. You beat the

753
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Speaker 1: shit out of Atlanta, you dominate Tampa. Who cares you're

754
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: sitting at home? I mean you needed other teams, Like

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't even have went if Green Bay had lost

756
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: because Seattle won, so you actually weren't even There's seven

757
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: teams now right now, This is not twenty fifteen where

758
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: it was pretty hard to make the playoffs, right, most

759
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: nine and eight teams would never sniff the playoffs, and

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00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: you didn't win your division. You're sitting at home. So listen,

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Speaker 1: I get it. I think there's some merit to it.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with Jamis doing it, But would

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Speaker 1: Jamis have done that? And listen, he's always been a

764
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Speaker 1: little anti authority. Would he have done that to Andy

765
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: Reid or Pete Carroll or Bill Belichick? Probably not. When

766
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: you do that to Sean Payton, doubtful. We do it

767
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: to Dennis Allen, Well, he proved he would he did.

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Speaker 1: Longtime listener and first time mailbag question, is Mike vreable

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Speaker 1: to the Patriots the best hire if Bill leaves? The

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00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: defensive mind and former connections make too much sense? You know,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk about the Patriots in Drodmeo,

772
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Speaker 1: the longtime linebacker. Now he's been on the staff for

773
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Speaker 1: a long time, being the transitional piece, being the guy

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00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: on staff when they fire Belichick that is just going

775
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: to take over. We'll see how that plays out over

776
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Speaker 1: this week. You know, I think it's going to take

777
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Speaker 1: a couple of days for this Belichick thing to take shape.

778
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Speaker 1: But ultimately my question is going to be do you

779
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Speaker 1: want to be the guy that fires or follows Bill Belichick?

780
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Speaker 1: Because usually you want to be the guy that follows

781
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: the guy that followed, the guy easier to replace. It's

782
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: not going to be easy to be the next head

783
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: coach to Alabama. There are a lot of positives right

784
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: the program. I'm rolling and everything, but it's that's not easy.

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Speaker 1: You are compared to Nick Saban, you are compared to

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. To me, if I'm Mike rabel I would

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Speaker 1: probably just try to stay at Tennessee for a couple

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Speaker 1: more years. Let that situation, you know, kind of play

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Speaker 1: itself out. If we still suck go because Belichick's not

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Speaker 1: going anywhere. The other thing is all right, excuse me.

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Speaker 1: The Robert Kraft and the Craft family love the guy.

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Speaker 1: I'd be a little shocked at this point. Again, this

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Speaker 1: is just educated guests. I don't know vrabel I understand

794
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Speaker 1: the connections. Obviously, he played a huge role. The Crafts

795
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Speaker 1: love him. He kicked their ass and ended the Brady

796
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: Belichick era in twenty nineteen, like kind of ended the dynasty.

797
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: But personally, again I'm biased on this one. I'd much

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Speaker 1: rather live in Nashville than in the New England area,

799
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Speaker 1: a lot colder. Rabel's a Midwest guy, right, He's from Ohio,

800
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: went to Ohio State. Maybe he isn't as big in

801
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Speaker 1: Nashville as I would be, or maybe you would be,

802
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Speaker 1: so maybe he would end up there. I also think

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Speaker 1: if Mike Rabel is truly available, there are gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams very sitting him, right, and what

805
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Speaker 1: can he do? And this is why I like Belichick.

806
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: The defensive coaches a little riskier when they don't have

807
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Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator. Well, Belichick has Josh McDaniels available. So

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Speaker 1: if I'm one of these you know owners Washington Atlanta tepper,

809
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Speaker 1: Belichick gets to come with his offensive coordinator, Josh McDaniels,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that. I mean, I don't know, Josh made

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Speaker 1: so much money getting fired. But what's just gonna do?

812
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: Sit and watch TV and eat ice cream all day?

813
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: Which you know clearly was hard for him when your coach.

814
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: He gained a lot of weight, Maybe he's lost some pounds,

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Speaker 1: maybe he's got his energy back and pair with Belichick

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Speaker 1: and you know, and try to make another run. So, well,

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Speaker 1: what does Mike Grabil have Arthur Smith, who is the

818
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Speaker 1: best offensive coordinator he had available. Arthur Smith's proven he's

819
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Speaker 1: a good number two. There's nothing wrong in the I

820
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: say it all the time. I understand why Todd Bowles

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Speaker 1: Dennis Ound accept these head coaching jobs. They're number two's

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Speaker 1: and there's nothing. And listen, Todd Bowles has proven to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, probably a mid tier guy. Right. He's credible

824
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: head coach, but he's an elite number two. Same thing

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Speaker 1: with Fangio, an elite defensive coordinator. I'm not just judging

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Speaker 1: him off this year in Miami. If you give him

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Speaker 1: good players, he will dominate. Arthur Smith has proven you

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Speaker 1: just give him an average quarterback and he's the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Can't handle the whole team. But if he can just

830
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Speaker 1: focus on the offense, Rabel leads the team, motivates, you know,

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Speaker 1: handles the defensive side of the ball. They're a good tandem.

832
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Speaker 1: So I listen, if you can get Mike Rabel with

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith as offensive coordinator, I think teams would be

834
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Speaker 1: all over that. Because here's the other thing. You don't

835
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Speaker 1: have to worry about Arthur Smith getting a head coaching

836
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Speaker 1: job right away. Who's hiring Arthur Smith in the next

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Speaker 1: couple of years New Slash Nobody huge fan question for

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Speaker 1: the bag. Do you think Lawrence is a bust? I

839
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Speaker 1: saw stat graphic the other day comparing Trevor and Daniel

840
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: Jones nearly identical records and stats through their first forty

841
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: eight career starts. Trevor was hyped to be one of

842
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks prospects to ever come out of the draft.

843
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: Yet he's been very disappointing. Would love to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I would say this about Trevor Lawrence. It has been

845
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: hugely disappointing because of the expectations relative to when you

846
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback. A huge part of the way we

847
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: judge you, you know, when it comes in sports, is

848
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: about the hype. So whenever in life you hype something up, like, Hey,

849
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: this is the best restaurant I've ever been to. You

850
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: gotta come eat with me. Here, you gotta come. There's

851
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: the best sandwich I've ever had, happens with food all

852
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: the time. You tell your friends, you tell your family,

853
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: like I'm telling you it's the best slice of fucking

854
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: pizza I've ever had, And then you take someone to

855
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: have that slice of pizza with you and they're like, uh,

856
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: kind of overrated, But you set the expectations. So the

857
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: expectations on Trevor Lawrence. One of the best prospects we've

858
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: ever seen. Andrew Luck Peyton Manny Peyton Manny became top

859
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: five quarterback of all time. Andrew Luck clearly was really good.

860
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: Right in Trevor Lawrence compared to that, Well, what happens,

861
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't remotely live up to that standard. Right by

862
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck's third year, they're in the playoffs back to

863
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: back years, he's winning playoff games. You know, as general

864
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: manager to let him out because no one could block

865
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 1: for him, and he was a little reckless as a player.

866
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: But I think when you look at Trevor Lawrence, he's

867
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: a product of the hype and the hype he has

868
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: not lived up to now relative to his draft class.

869
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: Mac Jones bench for Bailey Zappi, who also stinks Trey

870
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: Lance a third string quarterback in Dallas, Zach Wilson, they

871
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: can't get rid of him fast enough, got benched by

872
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: a second year in the league. And Justin Fields, who

873
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: is the second best quarterback of that group, is really

874
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: just a runner with a couple splash plays. Can't play

875
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: within the pocket to me, Trevor Lawrence, you watch him like, okay,

876
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: that's all. He overthrew him. So it's just this year

877
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: was really bad. Now is it? Injuries? Is it? Sometimes

878
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: you watch him you wish there was a little more

879
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: umph to him. Like when you watch young Peyton Mann,

880
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: You're like, fuck, this guy is all in, Like this

881
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: guy is not messing around. You watch Josh Allen just

882
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: laying it on the line, laying it on the line

883
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: even to like, I don't think he's that great of

884
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: a player, but it feels like he's giving you it

885
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: as all sometimes with Trevor Lawrence, and it might just

886
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: because of his talent, right, I think you see this

887
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: with Anthony Davis. Now, I'm not comparing Trevor Lawrence to

888
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis because Anthony Davis is an elite NBA player

889
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: when he's on the court and he's having a great season.

890
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: I haven't watched a minute of Laker basketball. I see

891
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: that they're in shambles, though, and that makes me happy.

892
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: My point is, like Anthony Davis was clearly everyone would

893
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: want him, like Trevor Lawrence. I was listening to Bill

894
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: Simmons and Sal this morning at the gym. It's like,

895
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: if you said, if you called the Bears right now, hey,

896
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: if you're gonna trade fields, would you give us the

897
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: number one pick for Trevor Lawrence, They'd hang up on you.

898
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: I think Washington would hang up on you. I think

899
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots would hang up on you. And

900
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: part of it is like, well, he's going into his

901
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: fourth year contract right around the corner, He's not getting

902
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: paid this offseason. How much is he worth? Because there

903
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: is like not everyone is just this max player. And

904
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: that's what started happening in the NFL a lot with quarterbacks,

905
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: happened in the NBA forever. The overwhelming majority of these

906
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: NBA players are not max players. So it's why you

907
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: have so many bad contracts in the NBA, and so

908
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: many contracts you're like, that's gonna tinder of that team

909
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: right for the most part, Like how many guys are

910
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: truly worth the most amount of money? Mahomes Josh Allen

911
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: Lamar's proving that obviously, the Brady, the Rogers, I mean,

912
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking every single year, if he's on, he can

913
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: win the MVP. He's gonna lead me to the playoffs.

914
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Football is a little weird. Weird chicken happen, Like Mahomes

915
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: could be one and done this year in the play

916
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: Who Cares Right? There's a lot of pressure on Lamar,

917
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: but he's proven to be worth every penny. Turvin Lawrence

918
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: like got a ways to go. This is you know

919
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Is the first time he's had adversity

920
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: in his life. He went to Clemson when they were

921
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: already winning a national championship. Like he got there they

922
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: had already won. Then he gets there that they win,

923
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: and they're obviously really good during his tenure. But it

924
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: was pretty easy. It's kind of the question sometimes when

925
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: you see these guys in college never have any struggles.

926
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: That's what I liked about Jalen Hurts. Nick Saban said

927
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: your bench, you're not good enough. He had a transfer.

928
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean he was told. Everyone made this big deal

929
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 1: when Jalen Milrow was told by Bill O you should

930
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: play another position, Like have you watched Jalen Miller. I'm

931
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: not a very good thrower of the ball, but he

932
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: literally like they told Jalen Hurts leave even this year

933
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: with Kayleb Williams, like their team sucked. It was not easy,

934
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, So honestly, I'd view that as somewhat of

935
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: a positive evaluating the guy. It's like he went through

936
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: some struggles as an individuals. As a team. It was

937
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix Indiana getting hurt all the time, team sucked,

938
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: bo Nicks run out of town in the SEC. A

939
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: lot of guys in this class. You could argue JJ

940
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: McCarthy would be the one guy who's always had a

941
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: success as the starter. But even him, like didn't get

942
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: to be the full time starter immediately when he got

943
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: to Michigan. Remember what was the guy's named macnamara that

944
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: he had to split time with, like Trevor Lawrence. The

945
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: first sign of turbulence he'd ever had, Well, he got

946
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: handed it immediately when he got Urban Meyer. So it's

947
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: it's been in the NFL, and it's why I talk

948
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: about I think the biggest I think thing for any

949
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: young person in life is the gain experience good and bad. Right,

950
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: so any industry just start working right away. It's why,

951
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, obviously in college, try to do jobs that

952
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: you ultimately want to do. Get in any way possible,

953
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: and you can kind of see with your own eyes

954
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: what works, what doesn't, and you build on those experiences, right,

955
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: because you gotta go and understand that, like this, shit's

956
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: hard no matter what you do, and the faster you

957
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: go through the failures, the easier it is to come

958
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: out on the other end. Right now, I don't know,

959
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: You've got to be mentally tough to come out on

960
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: the other end. And there were some question marks about

961
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. How much does he love football? Because he

962
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: clearly is physically gifted. But you watched him yesterday, You're

963
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: just like, God, there's just something to be desired, that

964
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: there's something missing. And clearly he's not some all time

965
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: great prospect, like that's a fact. He might become a

966
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: really good player still, but he's not. He's not the

967
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: fastest guy, he doesn't have the biggest arm, and let's

968
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: face it, he's not very accurate. He turns the ball

969
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: over a look. So to me, his ceiling is never

970
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: Mahomes or Josh Allen. Like I witness Josh Allen year three,

971
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: he looked like Can Newton meets John Elway, right, and

972
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: you watch him now by year six or whatever year

973
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: he's in, he's just an elite, dominant player same thing

974
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: what Mahomes proved very early. Listen, I'm a big believer

975
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: in Justin Herbert, but there'd be a lot of pressure

976
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: on him next year, right, just like Yusaw Jalen, there's

977
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on just sustaining it every year.

978
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: Lamar I answered the bell, and he answered the bell fast.

979
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: So I yeah, I think they're just major question works.

980
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: And the only way that he could answer him is

981
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: next year, play well and next year earn a contract,

982
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: because this year he did not. Now you could argue

983
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: he was banged up, and I don't have like his

984
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: You know, only the team truly knows how injured he was.

985
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: But he was healthy enough to play yesterday, and he

986
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: was I would say, relative to the hype, was one

987
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: of the more disappointing games I've ever seen, right, a

988
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: couple turnovers that the throws at the end of the game.

989
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean the throw that end of their season was

990
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: not remotely close. It's one thing, listen, Sometimes you make

991
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: a bad throw. Gardner Minshew on that play to thirty

992
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: one that law lost him in the game. Not a

993
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: great throw, still hit him in the hands, still gave

994
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: his guy a chance. I mean, we can say it's

995
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: got to be better, and it does. You got to

996
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: hit the guy in stride, but he could still could

997
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: have dropped it. Trevor didn't even give his guy a chance,

998
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: so maybe he lost his confidence. That's another thing. I've

999
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: lost my confidence before. It's happened in multiple industries. It

1000
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: happened when I was in the NFL and Chip Kelly

1001
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: came in and things started getting weird. It happened when

1002
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I was in the radio business when we got new

1003
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: management and I could tell, like, I'm probably on the outs.

1004
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: You just lose your sense of keeping pedal in the

1005
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: metal and full belief in yourself right. And I don't

1006
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: care what you do when you lose confidence. You know,

1007
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: I think it's easier to maintain confidence the older you get,

1008
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: back to what I said, with experience, you can lean

1009
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: on that. But when you're younger even you know, for

1010
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: most human beings, being young is like in your thirties

1011
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: or early forties. But in this profession, like early mid twenties,

1012
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: you start losing your confidence. Athletes talk about it all

1013
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: the time. You can become a scrub fast, even if

1014
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: you have the physical capabilities. And that's kind of what

1015
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: he looked like like a very very average player, which

1016
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: is extremely disappointing for a guy that was a no

1017
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: brainer number one overall pick and after last year looked

1018
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: like a guy ascending and this year he went the

1019
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: other way. Question for the bag. Obviously, lots of people

1020
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: are blaming the wide receivers on the Chiefs for their

1021
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: offensive loes this season, But since promoting Matt Naggie to

1022
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, the offense looks like it has regressed and

1023
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: the play calling has been stale. Outside of drafting some

1024
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver high in the draft, could you see Andy

1025
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: Reid firing Matt Naggy and reuniting Mahomes with Cliff Kingsbury

1026
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: to bring some new juice. No chance, absolutely none one.

1027
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: Their wide receivers are really bad, like they lead the

1028
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: the NFL and drops and last time I checked, I

1029
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: think it was put in by a pretty wide margin.

1030
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: Like listen, Andy Reid is running the offense he has

1031
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: since he gotten Kansas City. They just they're having a

1032
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: rough stretch, right They won eleven games, And this is

1033
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: what I talk about with expectations. Do you know how

1034
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: many teams in the NFL their owner would give like

1035
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: their pinky toe to have the season that Andy just had. Wait,

1036
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: you're the three seed, you're hosting a playoff game, you're

1037
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: a huge favorite in the first round, you're likely to

1038
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: play in the second round. You won the division for

1039
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: the twentieth straight time. It's like they're a product of

1040
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: their expectation. The reason we're hard on Trevor Lawrence and

1041
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: you know I'm easier on brock Purty. One guy was

1042
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: the last pick of the draft. The other guy was

1043
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: a generational prospect. Like the Chiefs, aren't compared to everyone's

1044
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: given the Packers a lot of preaks. Rightfully, so were

1045
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: the Houston Texas. They had no expectations the Rams other

1046
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: than the Rams are gonna fucking suck, that they were

1047
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: gonna draft in the top ten, now they're in the playoffs,

1048
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: that they might win a playoff game. Everyone expects mahomes

1049
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: Andy super Bowl. Sometimes you happen up and down year

1050
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: happened to the Patriots multiple times during their twenty year

1051
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: run on They'll reload. Andy's the mastermind there. I promise

1052
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: you they'll'll be okay. I'm a Ververs fan, and I

1053
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: agree it's time to take Caleb, but not enough people

1054
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: are talking about how bad of a planner and play

1055
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: caller Luke Getzi is. Do you know what I love

1056
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: about football? And this is what the other sports don't have,

1057
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: is like, no one believes in baseball the hitting coach

1058
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: makes that big a difference. It's like, dude, stop swinging

1059
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: at the outside slider like it's on the player. In basketball,

1060
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: no one knows ninety nine percent of the assistant coaches.

1061
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: They just don't are viewed as very relevant in football.

1062
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 1: Every fan of their team in Division I football definitely

1063
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: the SEC and the Big Ten. And obviously the NFL

1064
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: knows their coordinators, and I would say the majority of

1065
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: their coordinators are not highly thought of, especially when the

1066
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: team struggles a little bit fire. The coordinator can't take

1067
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: the throne without going through Green Bay. They saw them

1068
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: every time, and he's from there. Can't put this ugly

1069
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: loss on fields. He's equally culpable. I think they keep

1070
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: the head coach. But the only way Chicago finally solves

1071
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: its century long quarterback problem is to hire an offensive

1072
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: savant at offensive coordinator like b Enemy Reich or Kellen Moore.

1073
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: Somehow Caleb would actually respect what say you well, Frank Reich,

1074
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: his offense has been absolutely hideous the last several years.

1075
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore got away from the Cowboys umbrella and did

1076
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: not have a good year. And Eric b Enemy. I

1077
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: saw they scored more points last year with North Turner's kid,

1078
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Scott Turner than they did with Aeric Benemy. And at

1079
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: one point in time the Washington Commander's Redskins football team

1080
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: were on pace to break David Carr's single sack record. Now,

1081
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: you could argue all these guys, your personnel, who's injured,

1082
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: who's not. I think sometimes I'd be very hesitant about

1083
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: all these guys. Now, if you're them and you do

1084
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: fire gets seat, Here's what I would say. You were

1085
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: playing with a quarterback who can't play within the pocket.

1086
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: He can't when he freaks out. He doesn't slide, he runs.

1087
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: If you watch Jordan Love, if you watch most good quarterbacks,

1088
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: they scramble. There's nothing wrong with scrambling to throw. Field's

1089
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: had a couple great outside the pocket throws. He could

1090
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: make as incredible of a highlight play as anyone in

1091
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: the league. But when there's a little pressure from the

1092
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: left from the right up the middle, instead of just sliding,

1093
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: and we talk about this all the time. Peyton Manning

1094
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady became the greatest quarterbacks of all time by

1095
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: doing that. They couldn't move a lick. He takes off

1096
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: and he runs into half his sacks. He's an awful

1097
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: quarterback within the pocket. It's one thing to me, Lamar

1098
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: like you talk well, stats aren't as good as twenty nineteen.

1099
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: He is dramatically better as a player in twenty twenty.

1100
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: He's much more calm. He's less likely to freak out

1101
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: under pressure. He slides before he runs. Fields is either

1102
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: it's there, if it's not there, he looks to run,

1103
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: and half those he runs into pressure so we can

1104
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 1: crush Getsy. But like, I don't think he was dealing

1105
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: with a very good pocket quarterback. And we don't have

1106
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: a good pocket quarterback. It's hard to play. And then

1107
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: if all you do is run him, everyone's like, well

1108
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: that all you're doing is running, I'm to let him throw. Well,

1109
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: the reason, remember last year when all they did was

1110
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: run him, was because he can't really throw from within

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00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: the pocket. It's why I love the Packers. This week

1112
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago. No man,

1113
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is a way better player than Justin Fields.

1114
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: Not saying he's faster, I'm not saying he has a

1115
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: bigger arm. He's a better quarterback, and that was on

1116
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: full display. It was on full display on Sunday afternoon

1117
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: in lambeau Field, and if Luke Getzi had Jordan Love,

1118
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: I think they would look better. Now. I don't know

1119
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: Luke Getsy. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but

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Speaker 1: I think this is a scenario where quarterbacks like that

1121
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: can make your coordinator look bad. Never forget Russell Wilson.

1122
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: Every offensive coordinator he's ever had beside Sean Payton has

1123
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: been fired. He's not an easy guy to coach. And

1124
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's obviously dramatically better than Justin Fields. But when

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00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: you're not great in the pocket, it's hard to scheme

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00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: for you. Because if I just call normal pass plays,

1127
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: did all the good teams run? My guy can't execute

1128
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: it half the time, so then he starts scrambling. He

1129
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: runs into sacks half the time of those plays. I

1130
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: just think it's a little more complicated than you think. Okay, Hey, John,

1131
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: longtime listener, born and raised in Jupiter, Florida. Always wanted

1132
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: to go there home of obviously a lot of golfers

1133
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: and seems like a great place. Lifelong Eagles fan never

1134
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: been the biggest believer in Hurts. My question is betting

1135
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: on the guy, as you say, is the answer to

1136
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: giving away big contracts on town alone. I think scouts

1137
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: could find similar quarterbacks to do what Hurts does, But

1138
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,919
Speaker 1: what separates him is his leadership. But when the team

1139
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: is in a rut, I see him pouting. He does

1140
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: not see the field well and has horrible pocket awareness.

1141
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: How difficult is it to move past a contract like this?

1142
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: And do you think the Eagles and other teams should

1143
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: keep the core of skill O line, D line and

1144
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: keep trying out quarterbacks without the big contracts to second this?

1145
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: Hurts does have enough talent to elevate the team, example

1146
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: was the day versus the Giants. Doesn't have enough talent,

1147
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: should be able as a franchise quarterback to put him

1148
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: on their back. He is untalented and has a bad attitude. Yeah,

1149
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's untalented. I think this year he's

1150
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: developed a lot of bad habits. And this is what

1151
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: I get back to. The Eagles problem right now is

1152
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: their coaching structure. Right are they lost their offensive coordinators

1153
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: proven to be really good with the Indianapolis Colts, and

1154
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: they're dependent on Nick Sirianni, who is turned in somehow.

1155
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: To John Harbaugh, like you just lead, like you are

1156
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: we scheming? Like what are you bringing to the table.

1157
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: Because Bosa said this a month to go when the

1158
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: Niners beat the shit out of him, he said, going

1159
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: into the game, we knew that we'd get after Hurts

1160
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 1: because his eyes go down, he looks at the ground

1161
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: when pass rush comes, and he gets flustered easily. We

1162
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: talk about this all the time. Eyes with quarterbacks, keep

1163
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: your eyes up because that's it's very hard to play.

1164
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: It's why you get forty five million dollars. You have

1165
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: to feel pressure, slide eyes up down the field so

1166
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: you can see all your different targets, go through your reads.

1167
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: As pressures coming, shit happens fast. And to me, you

1168
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: watch a guy that does not look remotely the same.

1169
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: And to me, he proved enough last year when he

1170
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: had a good coach, a good offensive coordinator to be

1171
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 1: a really good player. The Eagles were in a tough spot.

1172
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: He was going in, you know, to his final season.

1173
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: They extended him betting on the come and I would

1174
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: say it backfired a little bit, but I think it's

1175
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: an easy fix because they'll add a new offensive coordinator.

1176
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: One thing the Eagles will do is they're very aggressive

1177
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: with coaches. They wanted what's his name, Vic Fangio last year.

1178
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: They just got screwed up by the timing of it all.

1179
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: He would have been their defensive coordinator, and they had

1180
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: a backup plan this year if decide didn't work in Patricia.

1181
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: Now it hasn't worked, but they're always thinking like that.

1182
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: I'll promise you Brian Johnson is done. He is not

1183
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: gonna be the play caller next year, zero chance. And

1184
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: they're either gonna put it on Sirianni, like, hey, can

1185
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: you coach his position? Can you run this operation? Can

1186
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: you coach our most prized asset? Definitely our most expensive asset,

1187
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: because if you can't, like, we're gonna have to go

1188
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: in a different direction. That's what I would say. So

1189
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sell Jalen hurtstock fully. Now I do think

1190
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: you just cut a hold. I wouldn't keep investing in it.

1191
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: But I think next year is a huge year. Get

1192
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, get a new guy to coach him.

1193
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: On a daily base, because right now it's not working out.

1194
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: He's getting worse. His fundamentals are awful. Eyesight's awful. He's

1195
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: never gonna be Peyton Manning Tom Brady in the pocket.

1196
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: But he was much more comfortable last year, right And

1197
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: part of it is a huge part of his game

1198
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: was running. And when you watch him in there playing decent,

1199
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: they're mixing in runs with him. That's where Lamar took

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: his game to another level. Like he doesn't have to run,

1201
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: Lamar could just be a passing quarterback. And part of

1202
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: being a passing quarterback when you're a fantastic athlete like

1203
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: that is moving around behind the line of scrimmage and

1204
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: still making passes to me. When Jalen's playing his best,

1205
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, a decent percentage are from within the pocket

1206
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: and a lot are on the move right, and then

1207
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: you mix in a couple runs here and there. But

1208
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: when I can just force him to be a pocket passer,

1209
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win, I'm gonna win. I'm a Vikings fan,

1210
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: so I have no dog in the fight. But how

1211
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: could Demko Ryans not be the Coach of the Year

1212
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: over Stefanski given how bad the Texans were for the

1213
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: last couple years. Kudos to keeping the Browns afloat with

1214
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. The Texans sucked for years before Demko. Yeah,

1215
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean Dimico did an incredible job, no way around it.

1216
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: And the best thing that ever happened to the Texans

1217
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: you could argue in the history of the franchise was

1218
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: this offseason they got a coach, quarterback Combinat Like it

1219
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: turned out, Watson and O'Brien were never gonna work long term.

1220
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: O'Brien's crazy, Watson's got issues, and it was while it

1221
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: looked fruitful early, it was destined to fail. This thing

1222
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: looks destined to sustain one because both guys super high level,

1223
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: good people. I mean, Demiko elite character when you just

1224
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: look at the history of the league, like all the

1225
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: highest character guys in the NFL, Demiko's at the top,

1226
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: like he's a Walter Payton Man of the Year type guy.

1227
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: And C. J. Stroud just from watching how impressive he

1228
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: is his rookie year seems like a complete stud as

1229
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: a guy. So I think the Texans, whether he wins

1230
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: it this year or not, like who cares. I think

1231
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: sometimes awards, especially Coach of the year MVP, it's much

1232
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: harder to win Coach of the Year is a little random, right,

1233
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean Stefenski easily could because he won all these

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01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: games with Joe Flacco. Dan Campbell would be my vote.

1235
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's only the second time in the franchise

1236
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: history they've won twelve games. The franchise has been around

1237
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: since like nineteen thirty four. Franchise been around. The Detroit

1238
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: Lions have been around since nineteen thirty four. They've won

1239
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: twelve games two times, basically a ninety year franchise. I mean,

1240
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: the Niners have won twelve games in the last decade

1241
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: like five different times. So what Dan Campbell did with

1242
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: Detroit I think's impressive. Now, if you wanted to vote

1243
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: for Stefanski, you wanted to vote for Damico Ryans. I'm

1244
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: not arguing with you at all. Lifelong Giants fan, can

1245
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: you detail your opinion on Brian Abele? It felt like

1246
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: the prevailing view after last season was that he overachieved

1247
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: getting Daniel Jones into the playoffs and that the Bills

1248
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen seem to take a step back with

1249
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: his absence. This year was obviously a tire fire, and

1250
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: it seems that the narrative has shifted. What's the view

1251
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: on him, high level offensive coach or just walk around

1252
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: guy who's losing sway in the locker room and his

1253
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Yeah, obviously I'm recording this wink. Martin Dale

1254
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: just quit. I was very impressed with him last year

1255
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: because I thought his roster sucked. I didn't think his

1256
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: roster was any good. Thought it was a four or

1257
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: five win team like they were this year. I do

1258
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: not think the Giants have a very good roster, but

1259
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about it, and then this year

1260
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: I start hearing things. I'm not a reporter. I don't

1261
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: even consider myself a media guy. I'm here to entertain,

1262
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: make money, and sometimes the order of that changes. That's

1263
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: all that matters for me. There's no I don't have agendas.

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01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit. I've never met Brian Dable.

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01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't know him personally. None of this stuff really

1266
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: is personal to me. When I'm talking about coaches and

1267
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: the things I know. I just know a lot of

1268
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: people in the NFL, on a lot of different teams

1269
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: that hear a lot of different things, and I know

1270
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: when stuff's pretty credible and I talked about this earlier

1271
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: in the season that Wink Martindale hated the guy, couldn't

1272
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: stand the guy. And the reason was is because Brian

1273
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: Dable like screams at you like Belichick does, and I

1274
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: don't even know if Belichick does it to the extent

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: this guy does. The difference is Belichick knows everything that's

1276
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: going on, knows every play call, every scheme, every piece

1277
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: of information. Brian Dabele doesn't call the offense. He's just

1278
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: a walk around guy. And from what I was told

1279
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: is like he tries to be buddy buddy with the players.

1280
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: He's a complete asshole to the coaches. So the players

1281
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: don't turn on them, but all the coaches did. And

1282
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: Wink Martindale, who has been saying for a month now

1283
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: like everything's fine, everything's mine, was lying through his teeth,

1284
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: couldn't quit fast enough. Everyone in the league knew that

1285
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: this thing was over. To me, the question is like,

1286
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: does John Marraw have a problem on his hands? And

1287
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: only time will tell. I think the Giants kind of

1288
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: do one, just the roster, the quarterback situation, and this coach,

1289
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: like Wink martin Dale's really good. You watch Giants for

1290
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Their defense has not been

1291
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: their problem. Their offense has. Wasn't Brian Dable an offensive coach?

1292
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, they really took a step back in Buffalo,

1293
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: did they? I watched Josh Allen today or last night

1294
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: fucking win the division four straight time heading into the playoffs?

1295
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: Is the number two seed? Sure? Seemed like when they

1296
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: got Ken Dorsey out of there, when Joe Brady everything

1297
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: turned around. Hey throw some picks kind of how he plays.

1298
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: Big fans started listening last year. My question is, do

1299
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: you believe there's any chance Mahomes and the Chiefs offense

1300
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: get it together for the playoffs or do you think

1301
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: they are going one and done. I don't think they're

1302
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: going one and done because of the matchup, and I

1303
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: think Round two has a chance to be pretty cool.

1304
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, the Bills, assuming they can take business against Steelers.

1305
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: I expect the Chiefs to take take care of business

1306
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins. We get a matchup that is just

1307
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: elite TV. I mean, that's got Saturday Night written all over.

1308
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: That is a prime time NFL playoff game. Chiefs at

1309
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: the Bills, with the Bills a chance to I would

1310
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: say get the monkey off their back of what happened

1311
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with thirteen seconds, because that's

1312
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: something that's kind of lingered over them. And if the

1313
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: Bills house the Steelers, which I expect them to do

1314
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: even though they're kind of banged up, then they beat

1315
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Like we're gonna be talking about can the

1316
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: Bills upset the Ravens that they beat whoever they have

1317
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: to play. So I think the Chiefs win a playoff

1318
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: game because of the matchup. And then listen, they're gonna

1319
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: be a tough out. Champions are tough outs. You usually

1320
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: have to kill a champion to get them to tap out.

1321
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: Average teams, teams that don't know what they're doing, like,

1322
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: if you're not good enough, you're having an off year,

1323
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: usually fold. Like the Chiefs are not gonna fold. I

1324
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: don't expect them to. They might lose by ten points

1325
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: to the Bills in the second round because their wide

1326
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: receivers just simply aren't good enough. Here's what I'll promise

1327
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: you this offseason. The Chiefs will sign a legit NFL

1328
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: veteran wide receiver. They will invest in a tight end

1329
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: in wide receivers. They will do that that's coming. Happened

1330
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: to the Patriots. Happened twice to the Patriots when they

1331
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: shifted to get Welker Moss and that crew, and then

1332
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: when that crew ended and they went with Gronk Edelman

1333
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: and kind of James White and that crew. So like

1334
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: this football, it's very fluid. They made some transitional moves

1335
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: and some of them worked. Some of them left some

1336
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: holes that they hope to fill through the draft. It

1337
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: turns out they kind of couldn't. Right. It's just it's

1338
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: sometimes draft players and they're just not good enough. They're

1339
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: not the first team to miss on that. For the

1340
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: mailbag Chargers fan here, Christmas came early last year. Beside

1341
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: Harbaugh and old ass Bill. How much should we pay

1342
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: if we don't land those guys still cheap? I think that.

1343
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers have to sign a guy who's

1344
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: been a head coach that they can't afford. I've been

1345
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: saying this forever. Are they gonna land Harball? No clue.

1346
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in the NFL think

1347
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up there, or they would they land

1348
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. I don't see if Bill Belichick's available. I

1349
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: don't see him coming out West. If Tomlin were to

1350
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: be relieved of his duties, to me, he would make

1351
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Same with Mike Vrabel. They need

1352
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: a guy that knows what he's doing. They need a

1353
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: guy they're not looking to win Super Bowl here. They're

1354
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: just looking to like go to the playoffs or back

1355
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: to back years. And to me, the only way you

1356
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: feel good about that is hiring a guy with a

1357
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: resume of winning who is been a head coach. You

1358
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: can't keep hiring these guys who have never been a

1359
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: head coach and then complain when they're not good enough.

1360
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: You know, Dan Quinn to me is a little risky

1361
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: because when he didn't have Kyle Shannon and he wasn't

1362
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: very good right now. To me, Mike Rabel, Arthur Smith,

1363
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: no brainer, right I can get If I could get

1364
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: Tomlin and pair him up with one of the top

1365
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators, no brainer. And again it doesn't look like

1366
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: Tom's gonna be available. But you know what I mean,

1367
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't think Belichick's an option. But if I get

1368
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels, I'm doing that yesterday. Do

1369
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: I have faith that the churchs are gonna do any

1370
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: of that? No, do I expect them to just hire

1371
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: some random coordinator. Probably. I know everyone's like, this is

1372
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: their year, this is the time they're gonna do it. Well,

1373
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: when they finally do it, I'll believe it until they

1374
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: do it. I'm not believing it right. I'm not betting

1375
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 1: on Rory McElroy to win the Masters. When he finally

1376
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: wins the Masters, I'll be excited, don't I'm not putting

1377
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: money on it not happening, not doing it. Listen to

1378
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: every episode from Australia. How quickly do you think the

1379
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: Chiefs can retool and overturn their offensive receiving corps? Are

1380
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: the offensive struggles something that can be fixed in the

1381
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: off season? One issue I think with the Chiefs is

1382
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: their offensive line kind of got old and didn't play

1383
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,560
Speaker 1: as well. So you could argue it's more than just

1384
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: their weapons that their offensive line has been a problem.

1385
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,839
Speaker 1: But this gets back to if I have to retool

1386
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: my offense, is there any better coach in the league

1387
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 1: to have than Andy Reid? How many different offenses has

1388
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: he retooled in his life? Think of all the different

1389
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: iterations in Philly, like the Philadelphia Eagles I was a

1390
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,879
Speaker 1: part of, were like the third iteration Macklin, Shady, Deshaun,

1391
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: Jason Peters, Michael Vick, Brent Selick, like he had had

1392
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: several other groups over the two thousands before I got

1393
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: there in twenty ten. Think of the groups that he

1394
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: had in Kansas City. When he got there, he traded

1395
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: for Alex Smith, he had Dwayne Bow, he had Jamal Charles,

1396
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: and then he shifted. They drafted Travis Kelcey, they drafted

1397
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, they signed Jeremy Macklin. So he'll be fine.

1398
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: They will figure it out. If I was a Chiefs fan,

1399
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: and this is where like Belichick had earned this when

1400
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: they made some changes, like feel confident in the long term,

1401
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 1: belief in your operator. Most teams do not have that.

1402
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: You have that. Yeah, this year you're probably out in

1403
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: the second round, and who knows. I mean, I can't

1404
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: see Miami in zero degree weather beating them, but playoffs

1405
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: football things are weird. I just have a hard time

1406
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: seeing Tua play well in that environment. But I guess ultimately,

1407
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,879
Speaker 1: you guys would be fine. Just probably just this isn't

1408
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: your year. There's nothing wrong with it. Commander's fan colleges JM.

1409
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: You I think that's James Madison, who are the best

1410
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: fits for head coach and general manager? I just think

1411
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: you guys, I talked about this on the on the podcast.

1412
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: To me, this one's pretty simple. Your owner is proven.

1413
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 1: His last couple of highers in Philadelphia, he got Doc Rivers,

1414
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: who was one of the higher paid guys and a

1415
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: champion and who had proven they go to the playoffs

1416
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: every year. And then when they fired him, they got

1417
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 1: Nick Nurse, who won of NBA title with the Toronto Raptors.

1418
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: And Kawhi Leonard And who's his GM been the last

1419
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: several years. Daryl Moury Listen, I don't always believe philosophically,

1420
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: and Darryl Morriy it's like, hey, you're shooting twenty seven

1421
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 1: straight threes and he's like, that's statistically, that was the

1422
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: odds were on our side. How about you get to

1423
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: the fucking rim at about miss number nineteen and maybe

1424
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: you beat the Warriors and you go to the title

1425
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,560
Speaker 1: and you win it in Houston. But they refused, But

1426
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: say what you want, Like, Daryl Moury knows what he's doing. Literally.

1427
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: Weird relationship with James Harden, But that's a conversation for

1428
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: another day, you'll go big game, honey. You will get

1429
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: guys who are good at their job. I'd feel pretty

1430
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: good about that, you know, I think the guys they

1431
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: have running it. I also talked about that in the

1432
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: podcast Bob Myers Rick Spielman. I would expect you guys

1433
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: to have success with whoever you hire, and I would

1434
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,919
Speaker 1: imagine they're going to be famous guys with long resumes

1435
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: who aren't going to be cheap. I'm a non geographic

1436
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: Seahawks fan and I've been wondering about what the team

1437
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: should do quarterback wise for the future. I know Gino

1438
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: was a huge revelation, but that's not the long term answer.

1439
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: Our team drafts and develops quite well, especially late and

1440
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: in the past, which is why I come to ask

1441
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: what you would do if the Hawks trading up to

1442
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,839
Speaker 1: get Michael Pennix junior. He was a Washington guy, wondering

1443
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: if because he's older, that the geographic closeness matters and

1444
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 1: we have a lot of young studs at wide receiver.

1445
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: Would love to hear your thoughts, well. I think the

1446
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: geographic closeness when you're an NFL team, you just have

1447
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: the best information for that guy, and sometimes it can

1448
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: cloud your judgment, right, like the Tomlin and those guys

1449
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: with Kenny Pickett, you could argue they knew him too well.

1450
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: They valued that because sometimes when you like a player

1451
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: and he's a super high character guy, you like fall

1452
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: in love with the guy, and you let the guy

1453
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: kind of overshadow average talent. I saw it with the

1454
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,759
Speaker 1: Niners when they drafted Solomon Thomas, who's a good NFL player,

1455
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: should never have been drafted number three overall, but John

1456
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: Lynch was taking this leadership class at Stanford, Solomon Thomas

1457
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: happened to be in it. They became buddies. It just

1458
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: can cloud your judgment sometimes when you're too close. John

1459
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: Schneider has proven to like twitchy guys, to like big

1460
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 1: time athletic guys. He wanted Josh Allen, Never forget. In

1461
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen he wanted to trade Russell Wilson for the

1462
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: number one pick and draft Josh Allen. Russell Wilson like

1463
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: obviously smaller player, but big time athlete, big time arm

1464
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: Why did he want Drew Lock back in that trade?

1465
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: Because he liked Drew Lock a lot. Well, what do

1466
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: you see when you see Drew Lock? Obviously he's got

1467
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: some flaws as a player, huge r So to me,

1468
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: Pennix is like a better version of Tua. I like Pennis.

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this before the National Championship game. I got

1470
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: money on Washington. I'm rooting for Washington. But I see

1471
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: him liking more of a Jade Daniels. You know, JJ

1472
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: McCarthy might have some more physical tools like he likes

1473
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: the tools I think when it comes to quarterback. So

1474
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: I would be a little surprised if they went with

1475
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: Pennix over some other guys, assuming they trade up mail back.

1476
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: Do you have any know how of this going on?

1477
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 1: And if this is true, what do you believe Jaden

1478
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: Daniels is on the Vikings front of the Vikings mind,

1479
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: This is a tweet. Is exactly what I heard from

1480
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: multiple people. I don't think people realize how hard the

1481
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: Vikings tried to trade up for Anthony Richardson last year.

1482
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: Like the hall they put on the table was massive.

1483
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: They were going to give away the entire form, all

1484
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: of it. They were going to give up everything. But

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: it takes two to tango. I've never heard that wouldn't

1486
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: shock me. I think Anthony Richardson was a guy that

1487
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: a lot of teams like and think how perfect of

1488
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 1: a situation that would have been for the Vikings. You

1489
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: trade a haul for Anthony Richardson and you do the

1490
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 1: exact same thing that the Chiefs did with Patrick Mahomes. Now,

1491
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: obviously I'm not saying Anthony Richison would have became Patrick Mahomes,

1492
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: but your red shirt you get to integrate them in,

1493
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: on board them, as the tech people say, into your

1494
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: operation practice every day, and just try to develop them

1495
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: as Kirk Cousins plays out as last year and ironically

1496
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: this season, once Kirk would a tore his achilles, you

1497
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: would have been able to put him in the middle

1498
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: of the season. So it wouldn't shock me at all.

1499
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: The Vikings are definitely a team we talk a lot

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01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: about the Seahawks. To me, the Vikings are a prime,

1501
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: prime team to circle of would not shock you on

1502
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: Draft Day when you and it's like the trade is

1503
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: in and it's the Vikings have traded up to pick

1504
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: six or eight or whatever. That's something that feels like

1505
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen a lot. There's been a talk all

1506
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: year about Tomlin and Belichick. What are your thoughts on

1507
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and the Seahawks quarterback situation. They're in the

1508
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: same spot with an older defensive head coach, and they

1509
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: seem to have every option at quarterback. Resigned Geno trade

1510
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: for a young quarterback. Well, Gino's under contract, so Gino

1511
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: they don't. I mean, he's he's staying, so you don't

1512
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: have to resign him. I think personally, listen, Pete has

1513
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: been incredible the last twenty years. He consistently wins. I

1514
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: think he's had what one losing season with Seattle. I

1515
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: guess two because when he first got there, but post

1516
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson one losing season, they missed the playoffs a

1517
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: couple times. With nine wins. He's seventy two years old,

1518
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: and he's got an incredible amount of energy. You could

1519
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: only any young person aspires to be that energetic and

1520
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: be that passionate about what you're doing when you're his age.

1521
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: I would have zero critical comments if they fired him,

1522
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: or if they're like, can we go in a different direction,

1523
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: Like let's just start over, because you do have a

1524
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: young nucleus. You kind of have a lot going for you.

1525
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: If you're John, like kind of let John Schneider pick

1526
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: a coach and go offense, because think about this, there's

1527
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: no guarantee Arizona's ever gonna be any good. But as

1528
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: long as Sean McVay doesn't want to be a full

1529
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:14,440
Speaker 1: time dad and stays coaching, and Kyle Shanahan's in San Francisco,

1530
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: like you clearly have in twenty twenty four, the third

1531
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,799
Speaker 1: best coach, and when it comes to a quarterback situation,

1532
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 1: the third best quarterback situation obviously the fourth. I mean,

1533
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: you'd rather have Kyler Murray than Gino Smith, So yeah,

1534
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: I mean I I personally would fire him. And I'm

1535
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: not saying that like Arthur Smith or Ron Rivera, Like

1536
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: it's just time I think this about Belichick. I think

1537
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: this is about Tomlin. Sometimes professionally, a breakup, a fresh

1538
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 1: start is the healthiest thing that can happen. Now, would

1539
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: people hire Pete Carroll at seventy two years old, I

1540
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, you could argue Bill's similar age.

1541
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: I think Bill's good at his job. I watch Pete Carroll.

1542
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: They're awful on defense. It's like, Pete, you're a defensive guy.

1543
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: You watch Belichick, They're fucking awesome on defense. So when

1544
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 1: all the dust settles, you know, if Bill just has

1545
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator or Josh, This defense gonna be good.

1546
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 1: Why is the greatest defensive mastermind we've ever seen, And

1547
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: I just think Mike Tomlin is just I would just

1548
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: rather have Mike Tomlin pee Carroll. I don't really, I mean,

1549
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: can't justify it with stats. They both win. I just

1550
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: if you gave me the choice, you get Mike Tomlin

1551
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: for the next five years of Pee Carroll. I'm taking

1552
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Lots of support from Manchester, England. I'm a

1553
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: Packer fan. I really liked what I've seen from Jordan

1554
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: Love the latter half of this season. I think we

1555
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: should do all we can to add this supporting cast

1556
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: this offseason and in free agency. However, given the Packers

1557
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: can be a little conservative at times, I doubt they will.

1558
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: What do you think the Packers should do to help

1559
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: their young quarterback aside from firing Joe Berry. Well, offensively,

1560
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: you guys are awesome. You have a boatload of offensive weapons,

1561
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: multiple young wide receivers. You gotta find a way this

1562
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 1: offseason to me to like figure out this hamstring issue

1563
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: with Watson, Like that's that's a big deal. Deebo Samuel

1564
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: used to get him early on in his career, and

1565
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what they did training wise, but they

1566
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 1: figured something out and he doesn't get hamstring injuries anymore.

1567
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: You can't have him being hurt because when he's on

1568
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 1: the field with everyone else, Holy shit. We know you

1569
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: guys do a good job with offensive lineman, defense, defense, defense, defense.

1570
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: When you guys were great with home grin and four,

1571
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: you had an unreal defense the year you won the

1572
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, your defense played well. Most of the years

1573
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: you got bounced with the MVP versions of Aaron Rodgers

1574
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: or defense lets you down. So I would just defense, defense, defense, defense,

1575
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: but they always invest in defense in the draft. I've

1576
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: heard you mentioned that you live in Arizona because of

1577
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: the great financial and tax benefits it provides. So my

1578
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: question to you is this, do you think that the Chargers,

1579
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 1: Rams Lakers struggle to hire good coaches or players because

1580
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: of the high cost of living? In your career, have

1581
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 1: you known people within the sports industry who got to

1582
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: work for one of the LA teams because of the

1583
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: high cost of living associated with the city. Also, if

1584
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: you could pick any city you wanted to coach or

1585
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: work in front office, which would it be you know,

1586
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: there was an article that came out that Buster Posey

1587
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 1: said San Francisco is very, very difficult for them to

1588
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: land free agents because it had a very toxic vibe.

1589
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: All those players have played there, they don't like it.

1590
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: LA to me is just in a different like it's

1591
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: his own little world when it comes to California because

1592
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: of the beach. And you can live in Newport, right

1593
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: like Shoe Aotani lives in Newport, Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant

1594
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: lived in Newport. So to me, LA with the taxes,

1595
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: it's it's really as nice. I've grew up hating it

1596
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: because I hated its teams. But once you get to

1597
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: a point where you're making as much money as Phil Jackson, Lebron, James,

1598
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: Shoe Aotani, Matt Stafford, I think people enjoy it because

1599
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: the areas you can live in are so nice and

1600
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: unlike San Francisco. It's not like people don't live downtown LA.

1601
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: By these athletes or these coaches. They live in the

1602
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: sweet suburbs. You know. Sometimes San Francisco like the Giants

1603
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: and the Warriors playing downtown San Francisco, and right now

1604
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: it's not great. It has a lot of issues and

1605
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 1: you couldn't There's no amount of money you could pay

1606
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: me to live there right now. Part of why I

1607
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: left is one I just needed to change to the

1608
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 1: tax benefits and what I do. But it was like

1609
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to live here, you know, this is where

1610
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: I wanted to be, and for business reasons, for big

1611
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: picture reasons, just building my operation moving forward. So it

1612
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: was much more lucrative for me to come here. But

1613
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm also like, it's not like I'm making like a

1614
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,919
Speaker 1: player two hundred million dollars, right And I think sometimes

1615
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 1: in sports it's it's easy for us to talk about it.

1616
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: You know, in the NBA you can be offered the

1617
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: most money. Same thing with coaching. I don't think it

1618
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: has any impact on the Southern California teams. I think

1619
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: it directly impacts the Niners run face. The Niners also

1620
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: don't play in Sanfa. All those guys live in like

1621
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: Palo Alto, like where Stanford is. It's forty five minutes

1622
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: away from the city, so like their experience. I'm not

1623
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 1: a big San Jose guy, but their experience is dramatically

1624
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: different than the two teams in the city. So I

1625
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: would say on the LA thing. No, though, I did

1626
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: know someone who works with the guy that used to

1627
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: work for the RAMS in a major college program, and

1628
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 1: he told me that this guy I think he was

1629
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: making I'm not making up the number, but I forget

1630
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: the exact number. Let's just say three point fifty for

1631
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,839
Speaker 1: the RAMS, and when he moved to this college program

1632
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: in the South, is making less, let's say two point fifty.

1633
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: Yet he has more money in his bank every day,

1634
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: and the cost of living, bigger home and everything for

1635
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 1: way cheaper. So yeah, the factors did for some people

1636
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: like Sean McVay. I mean, he's making eighteen million dollars.

1637
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: Is he losing more in taxes making eighteen million dollars

1638
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: there than he would if he was making eighteen million

1639
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: dollars for Vegas. Yeah, Sean McVay lives in a fucking

1640
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: probably a machine somewhere in the hills. So I think

1641
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: LA is kind of uniquely equipped that way. The older

1642
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 1: you get, the more money you have. LA is just

1643
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 1: dramatically better than Northern California. And I'm born and raised

1644
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: Northern California, but it's not even close. It just isn't.

1645
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 1: I had a question for you, you read a quote

1646
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: today from the Marine about expectations in preparation. Do you

1647
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: mind sharing that? Didn't have a chance to write it down,

1648
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: having a hell of a time finding it again. It

1649
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: was in a mail bag last week. I forget. I

1650
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: don't want to butcher it. It was something about preparation

1651
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: and expectations, expectations, I'll butcher it. So I didn't write

1652
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: it down either. It's hard for me to write it

1653
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: down mid podcast. But I think it would have been

1654
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: Wednesday's mail bag. It would have been Wednesday's mail bag

1655
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: or Thursday's mail bag. It would have been one of

1656
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: those mail bags. So I will I'll look to find

1657
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: it because it was a really good one. Big fan

1658
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: of the show. Most recent mail bag you brought up

1659
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, and I couldn't agree more with what you said.

1660
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: As an Ohio State guy and living in Columbus, I'm

1661
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: surrounded by people that believe he is the best coach

1662
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State can get and moving on from him would

1663
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: mean a downgrade. I disagree with that. As Ohio State

1664
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: has to be a top ten job national top ten job,

1665
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: you guys are like a top three job. You could

1666
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: argue if you're not a southern guy. It's the best job.

1667
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you both NFL and college. Okay, yeah, yeah,

1668
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. If you were the ad,

1669
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: who would you hire. Well, I don't think Vrabel would

1670
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: want it because I have a hard time seeing Rabel

1671
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: andil and stuff. But I would hire Vrabel and a

1672
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: heart beat over Ryan Day. I mean, listen to me,

1673
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, it's clearly on the hot seat going into

1674
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: this season. And if he loses Michigan again, he's done.

1675
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 1: I just think it's over. You can't lose to Michigan

1676
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 1: four times in a row. You just simply can't. Ryan

1677
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: Day is praying, and I don't blame him that Jim

1678
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: Harbaugh leaves, and then whether they keeps your own more,

1679
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: whether they hired Duboor, and then hopefully he can beat

1680
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: that guy. Obviously he couldn't beat Sharon Moore this year.

1681
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, as a Bears fan, that is sadly accepting

1682
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: the fact that Iberfus is likely to return. Who are

1683
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: some of the potential offensive coordinators that would be a

1684
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: fit in Chicago. I think the guy mentioned it earlier.

1685
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Kellen Moore proved that, you know, he had

1686
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: a success with Dak the enemy I was pretty bad

1687
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: this year when he got to run a show like

1688
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 1: was really bad. It's not. I got no issue with

1689
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: the guy. I always heard from people in Kansas City.

1690
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: I thought he was a good coach. He got his

1691
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: opportunity to run his offense and it was pretty ugly

1692
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: Frank Reich. Guys like that like that. No, I would

1693
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: do what everyone's been doing. I would go to the McVeigh,

1694
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: Shanahan Tree, Kevin O'Connell and try to find a guy

1695
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: like that and run that offense. Why that offense works

1696
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: and it's very quarterback friendly. Now you could say, you

1697
01:26:55,400 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 1: know your guy, GUSI getsy GUTSI is the g of

1698
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: the Packers ran that. I don't really think they did

1699
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: because of Justin Fields. But if I drafted Kayleb Williams,

1700
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: that's what I would do. I would run some you know,

1701
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: mix and match what Sean McVay does a little more

1702
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: pass happy with the run elements of Kyle Shanahan, go

1703
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: to those two staffs, hire one of their offensive guys,

1704
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: making me your offensive. Brian Greasy, who's now been the

1705
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: quarterback coach with Perty and Kyle for the last two

1706
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: years making the offensive cordinated? How much noise do you

1707
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: think Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA will make in the

1708
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: Big Ten next year for years to come? Could any

1709
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 1: of them overtake Michigan Ohio State as the face of

1710
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 1: the conference? I think it'd be pretty difficult one. Ohio

1711
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: State just is so relentless with their money that they will,

1712
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 1: in this day and age, will refuse to suck. So

1713
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,879
Speaker 1: to me, Ohio State like, we're gonna see if Michigan

1714
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: is just gonna sustain this dominance of Jim Lee's because

1715
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: I saw them without Jim Harbaugh. They were fucking bad.

1716
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 1: They were really bad. So I don't think they're a lot.

1717
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 1: Ohio State is always good house state has been good

1718
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 1: in my entire life, and they just spend so much money.

1719
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: I do think now that Michigan has got the taste

1720
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: of what Harbaugh's brought him, they will open up the

1721
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: checks book no matter what to keep winning. So I

1722
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,759
Speaker 1: would say for the foreseeable future, those would be the programs.

1723
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 1: Oregon is willing to spend what it takes because of

1724
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 1: Phil Knight, because of the money they have, what they

1725
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: invest in recruiting. To me, Washington might be a little

1726
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: flash in the pan in terms of being a thirteen

1727
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: to fourteen win team because of the perfect storm with Pennix.

1728
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,799
Speaker 1: But Kaylyn de Boor is good, so to me, Oregon

1729
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: and Washington are gonna come in and clearly gonna be

1730
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 1: you know, are gonna be eight nine win teams. Washington

1731
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: for sure. Oregon might have a higher ceiling than that

1732
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: if they get good quarterback play because the talent they're

1733
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: gonna have on their roster. Washington I could see taking

1734
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of a step back next year. But

1735
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: the conference sucks. James Franklin has no offense, right, Nebraska

1736
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,799
Speaker 1: is gonna be all in on an eighteen year old quarterback.

1737
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: Wisconsin fell off a cliff. Minnesota think about some of

1738
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: the teams. We're talking Michigan States and shambles. Though Jonathan

1739
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: Smith's a good coach, UCLA is zero threat. Jim Kelly

1740
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: barely winning six seven games in the Pac twelve over

1741
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: the last several years. Obviously, this year, you know had

1742
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve was good, and USC like they got

1743
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 1: a lot of questions to answer. I know, Lincoln scheme offense,

1744
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 1: but that program was a little disarray. They went seven

1745
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: and five this year with Caleb Williams seven and five.

1746
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: I like Lincoln and I'm rooting for him because I

1747
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: like the USC brand and what they mean in college football.

1748
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: But he inherited a monster in Oklahoma. He inherited a

1749
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: dumpster fire at USC, and by year two they were

1750
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: trending in the wrong direction. So I would have more

1751
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: faith in Oregon and Washington assuming Dubor stays and doesn't

1752
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: go to Michigan. If Harbaugh leaves, then USC is a

1753
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: major question mark to me, and UCLA to me, it's

1754
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 1: just gonna be a random Big Ten team. They're gonna

1755
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 1: be like Minnesota. I think a great idea for your

1756
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 1: podcast would be to start interviewing players, coaches, gms. We're

1757
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: going to definitely mix in interviews this offseason or you know,

1758
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: once the season ends. For sure. I got some ideas,

1759
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: for sure, and even more than just coaches and gms,

1760
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: just a bunch of just interesting people first off, putting

1761
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 1: out the best football content. I like this guy. So

1762
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 1: I'm a New Yorker living in Chicago. Downtime for New

1763
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: York fans has made me emphasize, emphasize with Bears fans,

1764
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: that's a tough life. Got me thinking I figured out

1765
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 1: how to fix the Bears this offseason. Maybe I just

1766
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: played too much bad franchise mode as a kid. Here's

1767
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: the plan. Trade off the first pick, get the whole

1768
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: maneuver and be able to draft Panix and a doomsday

1769
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: fill in the gaps with on line and find another

1770
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: impact defensive player in the draft as well. Your offense

1771
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 1: will have cohesion, two stud wide receivers, a real grown

1772
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: up at quarterback in draft capital for the future. Am

1773
01:30:55,200 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: I crazy? Or does this work? Also? I think this

1774
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 1: is the argument for the Giants to stay with Daball. Yeah,

1775
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 1: I think you got to balance. The hard part is

1776
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 1: is what happened in college doesn't happen in the pros.

1777
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,560
Speaker 1: It's why we see time and time again guys be

1778
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,560
Speaker 1: unreal players in Power five conferences, the Big Ten, the

1779
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: SEC and struggle in the pros. There is no guarantee.

1780
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 1: I love Penix and Odonsay, there's no guarantee either one

1781
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: is going to be some dominant NFL player. You would say, Odoonsay,

1782
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 1: you feel more confident as because usually good, really good

1783
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers that have translatable skills are good NFL players,

1784
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: assuming they get a decent quarterback quarterbacks is such a

1785
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, flip of a coin. The problem with your

1786
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: idea is a lot of these trades now happen well

1787
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: before the draft, right teams like to pull the trigger

1788
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: into March early April. Well, if you trade it back

1789
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: from one, even if you trade fields right using your example,

1790
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,560
Speaker 1: and go from like one to four or five, what

1791
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: if Penix goes and then all of a sudden, Pennix

1792
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 1: isn't there. So if you want one of the other quarterbacks,

1793
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you would do that till draft day.

1794
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: If they trade before, maybe they would roll a fields,

1795
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 1: but I would doubt they do. Okay, last question, I'm

1796
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: a Charger fan, but you're an intelligent man. I want

1797
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: your take on this. What steps do you think are

1798
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 1: the most important for our franchise to take in a

1799
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: situation like the Chargers are in. What positions are the

1800
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: most important to get right? Keep or do everything else

1801
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: or do something else with I believe in Herbert as

1802
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: an all time dude, and we cannot waste his potential. Well,

1803
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: first and foremost this for all this, like until we

1804
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 1: talk about the draft order, Well, who's is ebra Flew's back?

1805
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 1: For sure? Who's Washington's coach? What does the Patriots do right?

1806
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: What are the Titans doing? So? Before, like we talked

1807
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 1: about the draft order, Well, who's coaching the team? If

1808
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 1: you tell me Jim Harbaugh is the coach of the

1809
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders, maybe they take JJ McCarthy number two. Maybe

1810
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: Michael pennicks this before the throws three or four touchdowns

1811
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: on him and he takes him. So Jim Harball, Jim

1812
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: Harbaugh had the Chicago Bears, John, I don't think he'd

1813
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: be one hundred percent locked to take Caleb Williams. So

1814
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: who's your coach? Who is your coach? Once you get

1815
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 1: the coach, then I go, okay, I know what type

1816
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: players they'll want. The number one thing Hardball would do

1817
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 1: immediately would be to build a line of scrimmage offensive

1818
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 1: defensive lines, and get a better running back right you need.

1819
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 1: He'd want a power running game. He had success in

1820
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco, he had Frank Gore. His success to these

1821
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: last several years, Blake korm has been a stud It's

1822
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of his version of Frank Gore. He's gonna want

1823
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 1: a running back who can do it all, because that

1824
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 1: is where it's why Kyle Shanahan's favorite players Christian McCaffrey.

1825
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 1: Why because the whole offense is built around him. Because

1826
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: he can do it all. Catch the ball, run the

1827
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 1: ball between the tackles, outside the tackles, inside zone, outside zone, pitches, sweeps,

1828
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: fucking do it all. That's what Harball likes so and

1829
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: that makes it easier. On the quarterback. You could argue

1830
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: draft the tight end. Harball loves tight ends. Blake Bowers.

1831
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 1: Take him early in the draft, put him with Herbert.

1832
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 1: He's his Travis Kelcey, He's his George Kittle, He's his

1833
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: Robert Krowski. Quarterbacks best friend. Good blockers and a tight

1834
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 1: end by be Most tight ends are within fifteen twenty

1835
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 1: yards of the line of scrimmage max easier to get

1836
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: the ball to. You know, keithan Allen I saw said

1837
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: today he wants to return. Well, Keith has been I

1838
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: like keithan Awan banged up a lot. Will you take

1839
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: a pay cut? You know they're spending a lot of

1840
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: money on Mike Williams towards ACL. I would imagine Khalil

1841
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: Maxon on the team. They're gonna need Joey Bosta to play.

1842
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: They need to get seventeen games out of you. Defense

1843
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: needs a lot of work personnel wise, scheme wise. Good

1844
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: thing with Harbaugh. You know when he comes like they'll

1845
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: have a real defensive coordinator, he'll be good. But when

1846
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 1: it comes to personnel, to me, the Charger's got to

1847
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: figure out the weapons and they gotta figure out the defense.

1848
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 1: And to me, they need a good tight end to

1849
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: go with Herbert and a real running back. Eckler's a

1850
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 1: solid player. To me, he's like a gadget guy, really

1851
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: good gadget guy. I think sometimes it has like a

1852
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 1: negative connotation. I need a guy that I can just

1853
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: ride like a horse. That's how Harball plays. Just it

1854
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 1: just helps kind of when things are a little off

1855
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: kilter in a given game, kind of mellow everything out,

1856
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 1: settles the game down. So obviously, you know you get

1857
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: that guy in like third or fourth round. But I

1858
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 1: think they need a big, physical back as a presence

1859
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:27,719
Speaker 1: in that offensive lineup the volume