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Speaker 1: leave you. So keep what's up? Man? Logan? Ryan? What's up?

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Speaker 1: Baby's going on with you? Man? I'm excited. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: not like we're going there and talk about just investments

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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's just like it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: hell of your career st what I'm saying, so a

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Speaker 1: little bit everything. Yeah, So as we wrap up, you're

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Speaker 1: You probably ever thought you could. So what is you know?

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Speaker 1: When I talk about this podcast, I try to just

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Speaker 1: now that I wish you knews looking back and key

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Speaker 1: That grow up? Man. The quicker you grow up, the better,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The quicker you get about

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And relationships, Relationships is is more valuable

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Speaker 1: that's That's pretty much what I say. Man, Just value

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Speaker 1: them relationships that you that you that you meet along

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Speaker 1: the way, and uh, you're gonna you're gonna be in

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Speaker 1: this grown life way longer than you're gonna be in

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Speaker 1: that kid. Like so growing fast, baby, growing fast, and

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Speaker 1: get to it. Remember Devin McCarney taught me, told me,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was blessed to have Devin my life

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Speaker 1: since college. I remember he told me he was like, Loo,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of dudes in this league. I want

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Speaker 1: to be cool, But being cool don't get you paid

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Speaker 1: because in order people to pay you, they gotta trust

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Speaker 1: you with it. And guys want to be cool and

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Speaker 1: mean you get actually getting paid. And they paid to

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Speaker 1: behind it exactly. And what I say, you gotta grow up, baby,

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Speaker 1: grow up and just be about your business. The quicker

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Speaker 1: the better. But brother, I know you gotta get out

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Speaker 1: of here. Look, man, I appreciate you. I tell everyone

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Speaker 1: all the time everything you've done for me, just just

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Speaker 1: learning alongside you. Fortunate to have a great corner of

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Speaker 1: them check the wings and still getting god brother ten

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Speaker 1: years later, didn't get them wings and nothing. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that you weren't too bad on me, and uh,

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Speaker 1: we want a lot of games together and I'll be

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Speaker 1: following your footsteps. I watched our interviews, your podcast. I listen,

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Speaker 1: I tune in the fox when you when you comment

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Speaker 1: take me. I'm a big fan of yours, so I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, Bro. I appreciate you have me on man.

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Speaker 1: I love my intro all the love you show too. Bro.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Man. You you you worry about that

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Speaker 1: grass though you keep doing your thing. You got you

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Speaker 1: got some good years left behind you on that grass, baby,

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Speaker 1: good well, I got some more plays left. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you all right, Bro, appreciate you all. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: us on the NFL Players Podcast. Don't forget to subscribe

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