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Speaker 2: Late Kick is live. It is Thursday night. It is

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Speaker 2: March twelfth, the year of Our Lord. Twenty twenty Essential

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Speaker 2: personnel only edition of Late Kick. We are certainly aware

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Speaker 2: of what's going on outside this studio. However, if you

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Speaker 2: care more about that than college football, you're probably already

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Speaker 2: not watching. So how we're going to handle this show

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Speaker 2: tonight is the same way we always handle the show.

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Speaker 2: We actually have a lot to get into tonight. Our

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Speaker 2: Bud Elliott put out a really good piece the other day.

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Speaker 2: One was to calling them about two days ago about

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Speaker 2: recruiting in the state of Florida. There's a new feature

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Speaker 2: that you'll probably see throughout the spring summer on twenty

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Speaker 2: four seven sports different scorecards. This one called the Sunshine

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Speaker 2: State Scorecard. They're going to do one for Georgia, Texas, California.

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Speaker 2: It's essentially just taking the hottest of hot beds for

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Speaker 2: recruiting nationally and breaking down where are kids going from

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Speaker 2: that region? Is anyone dominating in state? Is anyone from

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Speaker 2: out of state coming in and dominating the state. And

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Speaker 2: they put out the Sunshine State Scorecard the other day,

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Speaker 2: and there was some really good stuff in there. And

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Speaker 2: I really want to hone in on Florida because I

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Speaker 2: think there's a lot to be said for an opportunity

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Speaker 2: that Dan Mullen and the Gators have right now that I.

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Speaker 1: At least drew from that piece.

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Speaker 2: Also, we had our twenty four to seven Sports Publisher

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Speaker 2: Conference earlier this week here in Nashville. Met a lot

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Speaker 2: of guys who previously I had only spoken to or

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Speaker 2: texted with, so that was fun. And then Rusty Manziel

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Speaker 2: from Dogs twenty four to seven, he stopped in this

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Speaker 2: and we were just going to record like a few VODs,

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Speaker 2: video and demand video hits clips essentially as you know them,

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Speaker 2: and we got to talk in and we got to

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Speaker 2: toss some some stuff around, and eventually Rusty and I

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Speaker 2: went like, what was it, Colin? Ten or eleven minutes,

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Speaker 2: I think, and so we just kind of hashed out

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Speaker 2: some team insider type stuff and we were going to

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Speaker 2: chop that up and we still are. But Colin and

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Speaker 2: I and Aaron we were watching the video and we said,

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Speaker 2: this is just like a good interview. Why don't we

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Speaker 2: put this on the show. So this isn't really an

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Speaker 2: interview show. But if we have something as good as

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Speaker 2: what we had with Rusty the other day, that I

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Speaker 2: think more than just Georgia fans will get a lot

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Speaker 2: out of We're gonna throw it in the show tonight.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of you guys will like that.

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Speaker 2: And I also I'm going to touch on what's going

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Speaker 2: on right now with coronavirus and whatnot. But I specifically,

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Speaker 2: since last time I checked, I'm not a doctor. I'm

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Speaker 2: not a medical professional. I may be related to some,

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Speaker 2: but professional in those fields I am not. But what

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Speaker 2: I did do is I spend a majority of the

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Speaker 2: day and last night kind of talking to some people

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Speaker 2: within the college football industry, coaching industry, and player personnel industries,

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Speaker 2: as well as a couple of our recruiting guys, and

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Speaker 2: just generally trying to get a sense and a very

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Speaker 2: uncertain time of what kind of immediate and then midterm

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Speaker 2: impact that a lot of these cancelations in the college

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Speaker 2: football world and a lot of dates being moved, What

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Speaker 2: impact is that going to have on the twenty twenty season. Now,

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Speaker 2: we are going to work under the I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I call it a safe assumption, but assumption that

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty college football season is still going to happen.

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Speaker 2: That's the assumption that we're going to work on with

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Speaker 1: I will wrap the show with that.

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Speaker 2: But to start off with, I wanted to get into

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Speaker 2: this Sunshine State scorecard. Fascinating stuff here. A lot of

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Speaker 2: you folks. If you're an Alabama fan, you always have

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Speaker 2: your eye on Bama, but you also watch the state

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Speaker 2: of Florida. You get a lot of talent from there,

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Speaker 2: and pretty much everyone knows if you're a South Carolina fan,

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Speaker 2: a Clemson van an Ohio State fan, yeah, you want

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Speaker 2: to recruit the state, and to be successful you probably

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Speaker 2: need to in most cases recruit the state. But you

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Speaker 2: So our Bud Elliott the other day put out the

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Speaker 1: They called it the Sunshine State scorecard.

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Speaker 2: And the methodology here essentially is, let's take all the

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Speaker 1: Or out of that state. Over the past decade.

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Speaker 2: The last three classes in the state of Florida, more

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Speaker 2: left the state. Here is where the story is told.

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Speaker 2: So again, Bud Elliott did this. I have linked this

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Speaker 1: Here's what I think about all this. Okay, I didn't

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Speaker 2: That's probably shocking to anyone who follows recruiting, or lives

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Speaker 2: someone pounced on it. If you think back already mentioned

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Speaker 2: implications in this conference, in the SEC that can be seen.

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Speaker 2: So in a lot of ways, Meyer came in and

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Speaker 2: I believe it was colony. I was Randy Shannon down

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Speaker 2: Miami has been a mess in any one of these

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Speaker 2: So Miami is what they are right now. A Florida

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Speaker 2: all accounts now a pretty disastrous hire in Willie Taggert,

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Speaker 2: So everybody has that tone when they first put together

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Speaker 2: really interesting, because I think that this is Florida's time.

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Speaker 2: A time for him recruiting, which leads to good players

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Speaker 2: And so here's where it gets really fun. So I'm

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Speaker 2: this sport will go on eventually, despite what's happening in elsewhere,

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Speaker 2: just other corners of the world. You look right now

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Speaker 2: Now the detractors would say, yeah, but look at their

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Speaker 3: that box. Georgia offered last week, Florida State's offered, Texas

437
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Speaker 3: A and M's offered, lsu is offered.

438
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Speaker 1: So I think the addition.

439
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 3: Of Fairchild and the Snake really really makes things really

440
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 3: good situation for Georgia and stuff.

441
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Speaker 2: Talking to Rusty Manzield from Dogs twenty four to seven,

442
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,359
Speaker 2: all right, Rusty, let's look ahead the spring now, and

443
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 2: let's talk about a guy who has been a familiar

444
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,400
Speaker 2: name on your board. He's been a familiar name from

445
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,200
Speaker 2: a couple of cycles to go on the recruiting trail,

446
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 2: and that was a former five star running back, Zamir White,

447
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 2: and they call him Zeus. He's been in rehab, he's

448
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 2: been injured, and I know, looking at him last spring,

449
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 2: I said, I told you the other day, man for

450
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 2: a guy who's been in and out of rehab, sure

451
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 2: physically really impressive. Folks has been waiting for him to

452
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 2: get that spark back. And so this spring, what do

453
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 2: you expect from him?

454
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm very cautious on how I, you know, try to

455
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 3: forecast kids. The first time I saw Zamir White, I

456
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 3: came to our board and they know I'm not like that.

457
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 3: I said, that's the best high school running back tape

458
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 3: I've ever seen direction. You're talking about a two hundred

459
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 3: and fifteen pound kid that was running a ten to

460
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 3: four legit Laser one hundred. But what impressed me was

461
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 3: his change of direction. He was it that stiffness, straight

462
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 3: line speed. This guy could take it to the house,

463
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 3: run over, you make you miss in the small areas.

464
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 3: He has an ACL senior year of high school, comes

465
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Speaker 3: into Georgia fall preseason, has another ACO. So here's a

466
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 3: young man that started his collegiate career on back to

467
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 3: back acls, on different legs, different needs. So you look

468
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 3: at what he did last year. I still think because

469
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 3: of who he is and how physical he is, he

470
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,239
Speaker 3: hurt people at times. I mean, you have to make

471
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 3: a business decision when you want tackle Zamirir White. But

472
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 3: he didn't show me that shiftiness. Kind of the buzz

473
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 3: on the street right now in Athens, what they have

474
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 3: seen so far in off season workouts, I think Zamir

475
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 3: White might be back to the guy that we all

476
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 3: thought he could be. This is a locker room dude,

477
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 3: don't yeah, oh yeah, I mean, oh yeah, everybody's rooting

478
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,719
Speaker 3: for him. I don't care who you're a fan of.

479
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 3: I means there's a whole, bigger picture story on Zamir White.

480
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 3: Mother had him, I think it when she was fifteen

481
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 3: years old. This young man ultra talented and you look

482
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 3: at him physically in person, Dude, you look up that

483
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 3: definition dictionary. That guy is ripped. But I think he's

484
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 3: going to be a player for Georgia Show. I think

485
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 3: he's going to get the carries. He's gonna get the

486
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 3: maximum carries, touch his passing game, all that stuff. Like that.

487
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 3: I think Zamir White is going to be the guy

488
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 3: we all thought he was.

489
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Speaker 2: Good deal Rusty menzeld Dogs twenty four to seven joining

490
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Speaker 2: us as we move further into spring Rusty. This time

491
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 2: of year, everyone loves to talk spring ball and team leaders.

492
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 1: Sure, you start to develop sort of.

493
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 2: That identity of what will be your team this fall

494
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 2: in the spring, give me one or two names team leaders.

495
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Speaker 1: Who am I talking about with Georgia this year? Yeah?

496
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Speaker 3: Last week I had a chance to go down in Athens.

497
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Speaker 3: I spoke with a lot of people kind of close

498
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 3: to the program and some sources. I used there two names.

499
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 3: Everybody popped up and I said, who's running this show

500
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 3: right here? The coaches can't be around much right now?

501
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 3: Who's running the show behind the scenes?

502
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: Two guys?

503
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Speaker 3: And there are two different people, Richel Account and Monti

504
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: Rice and I covered both in high school. I've known

505
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: richelal Account since he was a freshman in high school

506
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 3: Liberty County. Richard is very vocal. I mean, he's gonna

507
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 3: talk the whole game. He's talked smack. He's kind of

508
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 3: a he's got a funny side to him. He's also

509
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 3: a head hunter. I mean he will absolutely light you

510
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 3: up on the field. Monnie Rice is a very lead

511
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: by example, almost got that Roquan Smith like, not gonna

512
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 3: call you out, but you're gonna see how it work

513
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 3: every day and you're gonna be expected to do what

514
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 3: I did. And I think that Monnie Rice and Richard

515
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 3: LeCount who both came in that twenty seventeen class. Listen

516
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 3: when you go back and look, that was Kirby Smart's

517
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: first full cycle. So those are quote unquote his kids.

518
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: That's his guys. You look at Richard Account and Minnie Rice,

519
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 3: who both flirted a little bit with going to the NFL,

520
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 3: both of them coming back. You need that leadership in

521
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: the locker room in the off season. Those two guys,

522
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: they're running the show.

523
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Speaker 1: How surprised were you?

524
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Speaker 2: And then how surprised or not surprised maybe was the staff.

525
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: Of Georgia then the Account actually did come back. You

526
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: up at flirting with the NFL, YEP.

527
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Speaker 3: I think at this day and age, Georgia was kind

528
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 3: of taken by surprise last year with Elijah Holyfield and

529
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 3: Isaac Nauda both probably needed to come back. They went

530
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 3: ahead and went on and doing what they're doing, and

531
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Speaker 3: that's their decisions. I think Georgia was a lot a

532
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: lot more proactive from what I heard this off season,

533
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 3: letting these young men know this is where you are.

534
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 3: In fact, one thing I was told Kirby Smart did,

535
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 3: which I love this.

536
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: He never has done this.

537
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 3: At the end of last July, they did their own

538
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: NFL combine to show you this is what you run,

539
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: and this is how many times you benched to twenty five.

540
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: So you know, going in some agent or somebody from home,

541
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Speaker 3: it's not going to tell you, look, you're a four

542
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: or five guy when you're actually a four to seven

543
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: seven and here we go. So I don't think they're

544
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 3: trying to hurt you about I think they're trying to

545
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 3: educate their young man. And I think Richard LeCount and

546
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: Monti Rice both knew coming back is going to help them.

547
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Speaker 2: Awesome stuff, first time I've heard it. Awesome stuff. Rusty

548
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: Menzel Dog's twenty four to seven joining us here. So Rusty,

549
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: I want toss his name to you. That's very familiar

550
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: in Georgia circles. He was formerly on the staff there

551
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: to Colorado State. Well, now Mike Bobo comes back into

552
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 2: the SEC East. He's the offensive coordinator at South Carolina.

553
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Speaker 1: This is the name, A lot of us are very

554
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Speaker 1: familiar with it.

555
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: But the question in Columbia is what kind of impacts

556
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: are going to have? What kind of impact will he

557
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 2: be allowed to have? So what was your impression of

558
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Speaker 2: the higher.

559
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Speaker 3: I think knowing Mike Bobo is the most competitive person

560
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: I've ever met. Anybody's been around him. Like, if you

561
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 3: tell that guy, look, I can count one hundred jelly

562
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 3: beans before you do it, you better bring your beans

563
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 3: because you're about to get this a race, right then.

564
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 3: I think that Mike Bobo is an alpha recruiter. I

565
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: think he's an alpha play caller. Ninety two games at

566
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Speaker 3: Georgia he was offensive coordinator fifty eight times he scored

567
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: thirty or more points. We're talking about SEC. Georgia didn't

568
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: have the defense around him. They had nowhere near what

569
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: they got right now. There was pressuring him to score.

570
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: It goes to Colorado State did not get defensive right. Offensively,

571
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: they still just kept rolling even though injuries, quarterbacks, those

572
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: types of deal. He's coming to South Carolina and you

573
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: look at the history of Will Muschamp. Defensively, he's always

574
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 3: had good players. What he left at Florida when he

575
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: got done. Those guys were first and second round draft

576
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: picks who he brought in the offensive side of the ball.

577
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: Got Will Muschamp in trouble there. Mike Bobo's coming to

578
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Speaker 3: South Carolina. I don't know that they have quite got

579
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: the weapons he needs to be ultra successful, but I

580
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 3: know this, he'll get more with less. I think it

581
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: was the absolute best tired at Will musch Champ maybe

582
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Speaker 3: has ever made.

583
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Speaker 1: And he knows he's on the hot seat.

584
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Speaker 3: I think Will muschhambite, he probably knows behind us he's

585
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: on hot seat. But you bring in a Mike Bobo

586
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: and you shows him improvement and they know defensively gonna

587
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 3: get better. I think that that together was a massive,

588
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: massive higher for Will Muschamp to get Mike Bobo, because

589
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: you get a guy that's called in every big situation,

590
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 3: those SEC championship games, this album he's done at all.

591
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: The moment is not going to be too big for him,

592
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: and he's gonna be dialed in.

593
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Speaker 2: Let's strug back to Athens one more time as we

594
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Speaker 2: wrap it up here. Rusty Manziel with us from Dalks

595
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Speaker 2: twenty for seven dot Com Rusty. If I give you

596
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Speaker 2: any direction you want to go, Spring twenty twenty Athens, Georgia.

597
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: What has you most excited? What are you looking the

598
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: most forward to watching.

599
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: We talked about this last week and I think there's

600
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: gonna be so much everybody's going to be completely focused

601
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 3: on the quarterbacks, and they should be.

602
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Speaker 1: That's a big question for Georgia.

603
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: I think this when you look at the big picture,

604
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Speaker 3: and me and Jake Row from Dalks two four seven

605
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: talked about this the other day on our podcast. I

606
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: think this is the best defense Georgia has had in

607
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: a long long time, a long long time. I don't

608
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 3: know that Kirby Smart will ever have the entire package

609
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: he's got right now. They have defensive linemen, they have

610
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: senior leaders, they have corners that are ten three hundred guys.

611
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 3: They will suffocate you on defense. They're going to be

612
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: in every single game. I went back and watched the

613
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: Florida game on tape the other day. There was a

614
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: couple of plays that kind of got busted Florida. It

615
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: was for three or four yards all they could do

616
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: to get that. Just an example of that game, that

617
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: LSU game. It was seventeen to three and a half.

618
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: Now that fell fifty to three, but the defense were

619
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: playing lights out to keep them in that game. I think, Georgia,

620
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 3: I want to see how good they actually are. Are

621
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: these guys that are juniors and seniors bought in are

622
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: they're kind of riding that clock until next year's NFL combat?

623
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: Will this defense do what everybody thinks they can and

624
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: absolutely take games.

625
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Speaker 2: Over Rusty Menzel awesome stuff, brother, said Manduks twenty four

626
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: to seven. No one in the industry does it better

627
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: keep it locked there for all the latest.

628
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Speaker 1: Good stuff.

629
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Speaker 2: First off, I don't think I need to tell you that. Secondly,

630
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 2: you listen to what he said there about how he

631
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: needs to see how their senior leadership buys them. You

632
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: remember how we talk about consequences of success all the time, Well,

633
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: George is in the consequences of success territory. It's a

634
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: rarefied air sort of position. Only like half a dozen

635
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: teams even qualify to suffer from this. Most of them

636
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: have won national championships, and that presents an entire new

637
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: level of consequences of success. Anyone who has succeeded in business,

638
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: in life, in sports, just in competition, you find that

639
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: once you get to the mountaintop, there's an entirely different

640
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: blueprint to stay there. First off, and secondly, you deal

641
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: with problems. They're called first world problems, but you deal

642
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: with problems you never could have imagined. And one is

643
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: you accumulate so much good talent that year over year,

644
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: you know that a lot of your kids know. All

645
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: I got to do is keep my knees intact and

646
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: keep my ankles intact, and keep my nose clean and

647
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: head on straight, and I'm going to be a millionaire

648
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: this time next year. So the challenge for Kirby Smart,

649
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: and the challenge for a lot of coaches that are

650
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: like Nick Saban, Daboswiney, ETCeteras, keep Goy engaged mentally. Just

651
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: a side note there, but I will kind of revert

652
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Speaker 2: back to something that we said about Georgia in closing

653
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Speaker 2: before we move on here last week.

654
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Speaker 1: I believe it was.

655
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Speaker 2: Rusty is talking about how good they'll be defensively. That's

656
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: the talk that's going to be the talk about Georgia

657
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: is how good they're going to be defensively. They believe

658
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: that they're going to have the best defense. They believe

659
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: that in the modern era, they have the best defense

660
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: they will have ever had. They'll end up saying it,

661
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: so I'll go ahead and.

662
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: Tell you that.

663
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: And that begs the question, how much of a revolution

664
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: or an evolution offensively are we really going to see

665
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: at Georgia. How tentative might that coaching staff up to it,

666
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: including Kirby Smart be, knowing what they got on the

667
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: other side of the ball, to look at their offense

668
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: and say, well, let's torch the bar and let's kill

669
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: the rats, let's overhaul it all. If you were mid

670
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: fifties defensively, that'd be one thing. They're going to be

671
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: right in the top of the country. They probably will

672
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: be the best defense in the country next year.

673
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: If not, they'll be top five.

674
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: Quarterback Jamie Newman known right now offensive coordinator Todd Monkin

675
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: for US, he's unknown. Kirby Smart probably thinks he knows

676
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: a lot about what he's got. But there is one

677
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: camp I talked about the two camps. One camp believes

678
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: that there's going to be a major overhaul and Georgia's

679
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: offense will do like LSU's and they will make this

680
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: great leap forward and join the twenty first century. And

681
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: then there is another camp that says Kirby Smart is

682
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: conservative risk averse by nature. He's got a good reason

683
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: to be because he knows that even in games like

684
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. This last year Florida Auburn Carolina

685
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: was a turnover fest. But that is the antithesis of

686
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: what is the norm for Georgia. The norm is they

687
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: can afford to play a lot of these one possession

688
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: games that look a lot closer on the scoreboard than

689
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: the points spread in your eyeballs indicate that they should be.

690
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: But because they don't turn it over, they force turnovers,

691
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: they play good special teams, and they play suffocating defense,

692
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: they're totally comfortable there. When you look at those one

693
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: possession games, you see games that Georgia should have done

694
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: better in. When Kirby Smart looks at those games, he

695
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: may look and say, huh huh, Well, if we put

696
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: the ball in the air, what could one more turnover

697
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: have meant in any of those games. Now, you may say,

698
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: if they put the ball in the air, they could

699
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: have stretched it by three touchdowns and a turnover in

700
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: garbage time wouldn't have mattered. That's not how a coach

701
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: necessarily thinks. So to me, the great unknown right now

702
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: is how different should we really expect that offense to look?

703
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: And I told you I lean more towards them, putting

704
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: in a lot of what we would call more progressive

705
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: offensive principle.

706
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 1: That's what I expect. But if we don't get it,

707
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: I don't.

708
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: Think we need to dig too deeply to find the

709
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: reason why it didn't go that way. A lot of programs,

710
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: as are just human beings in the United States and

711
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: globally right now kind of have their head spinning. No

712
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: one knows really what to make of in the coronavirus

713
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 2: arena at least how long? How's it going to impact us?

714
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: How long do we need to cancel things, postpone things

715
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: for so mads and calls last night.

716
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: I've been talking to people throughout the day to day.

717
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in breaking down the virus aspect of this.

718
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: You got a lot of people who can do that

719
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: for you. But what I did want to know is

720
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: what are the expectations, what is the current thinking, what's

721
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: the current climate out there for how people are planning

722
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: to react if if and if a lot of ifs

723
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: out there, So if the ifs come to fruition.

724
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Speaker 1: What are we thinking here?

725
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: This was the I'm just quickly a list here the

726
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: most common feedback and themes that I got in the

727
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: feedback from people who are.

728
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: In the industry.

729
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: The first takeaway is there has not been a conference

730
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: disproportionately affected right now. And what I mean is there's

731
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: no one conference that's shutting everything down and another conference

732
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: is just going to go on as plan.

733
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: There's going to be uniformity.

734
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: If there hasn't already been, there's going to be probably

735
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 2: uniformity in the decisions that a lot of conferences make.

736
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: I mean, right now, from a recruiting standpoint, pretty much

737
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: every major conference is off the road until further notice

738
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: or they will be. Having said that, there are programs

739
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: that have taken further steps like Notre Dame, Penn State,

740
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: USC Virginia. They've just canceled all spring football activities right now.

741
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: That is an example of programs being disproportionately impacted.

742
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: That's something to keep an eye on.

743
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: Is the temporary dead period put in place for recruiting

744
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: right now. You know, right now, since you have staff

745
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: that would normally be on the road off the road.

746
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: A lot of people are wondering Could there be a

747
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: step taken from the ncaa standpoint of putting in a

748
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: dead period right now? If there is a dead period

749
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: put in, then what do you do with the recruiting calendar?

750
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: Does everything remain as is and you just kind of

751
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: go on about your business? What does April and May

752
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: and June, May and June have become what December used

753
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: to be in recruiting? There were a flurry and there

754
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: were a blizzard, if you will, of signings and not

755
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: sign these commitments this time last year? What does that

756
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: look like this year? Could it be get again? I

757
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: know it sounds like I'm rambling. What I'm doing is

758
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: bullet pointing the most common things that people are outwardly speculating.

759
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: People in the know that don't know right now outwardly speculating.

760
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: Could it be a lot of people are asking this

761
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: that with the way that the recruiting calendar is so

762
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: violently shifted towards a lot of commitments in April and

763
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: May and June, and then you have the season, and

764
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: then the vast majority of elite kids they sign in

765
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: the early signing period, and then you have a few

766
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: that wait till February. Could it be that for old

767
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: time's sake, since the recruiting calendar is being thrown off

768
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: right now, could it be that maybe far less commitments

769
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: happen in what has become the summer splash period, as

770
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: I like to call it trademark. Could it be that

771
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: some kids now push THEIRS to December, but far more

772
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: kids than previous couple of years push THEIRS to February,

773
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: and the old school national Signing Day for one year only,

774
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: you know, back for one day only, becomes the premier

775
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: signing day. No one knows, No one knows how long

776
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: this is going to last. How will fall camps be

777
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: handled if you've got a cant of spring activities? Does

778
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: the NCAA do conferences in general get together and say,

779
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: let's extend.

780
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: What we allow in a fall camp by a week

781
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: by two weeks? Acclamation periods?

782
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: Do those change in the fall which teams are front

783
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: loaded with their schedule and dependent on a lot of

784
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 2: true freshmen starters.

785
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: Normally you got your early and roly true freshmen.

786
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 2: They go through all of spring summer workouts, fall camp

787
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: and as a result, hey.

788
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: You loaded up on true freshmen.

789
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: But you can get by playing it well if you

790
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: don't have spring, and you don't have off season workouts,

791
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: and then you're just kind of throwing them all into

792
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: a blender during the fall. Could there be some elite

793
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: teams that are freshmen heavy, that have front loaded schedules

794
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: that could be very strangely out of contention. This is

795
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: again working off the assumption that the season is going

796
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: to happen as normal. Consider this, consider the potential ripple effect.

797
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: I'm going to use the hypothetical here that I have

798
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: no knowledge of I do have knowledge of what some

799
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 2: people's expectations are. So a lot of programs out there

800
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: need help at quarterback. Obviously that's an every year deal.

801
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, those

802
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 2: will be no different. But right now we sit here

803
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: March twenty twenty, I can tell you this. A lot

804
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: of people noticed when Alabama signed Bryce Young. Bryce Young

805
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: is a generational quarterback. Bryce Young was the number one

806
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: player in America. Bryce Young committed to and has signed

807
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: with University of Alabama. Matt Jones is the current listed

808
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 2: starting quarterback for the University of Alabama. And I can

809
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: tell you right now this is the ripple effect. The

810
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: unintended consequence that you're going to see throughout a lot

811
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: of sports, college football, just the example I'm using here.

812
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: I can tell you some staffs out there hoped that

813
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: Bryce Young would come in dominate the spring at Alabama

814
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: enough to where Mac Jones sort of looked around and

815
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: surveyed his options and maybe entered.

816
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: That transfer portal.

817
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: That's not what they expected at Alabama, I can tell

818
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: you that, but that's what a lot of stats hoped happened.

819
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Well, now you don't have spring.

820
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: If you don't if you don't have spring, then may

821
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 2: that never has a chance to happen. And maybe had

822
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: that gone that route, a program out there that would

823
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: have landed a game changing quarterback no longer has the opportunity.

824
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: To the general feel here and a lot of hypotheticals

825
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm throwing at you this, everyone's head spinning. No one

826
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: has a firm grasp. It's kind of like trying to

827
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: nail jello to the wall right now. No one knows

828
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. My general feel is a couple

829
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: things are probably true. Truth number one, this is very serious.

830
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: Truth number two, things will ultimately be fine. So I'm

831
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: going to ride the fence and I'm going to hang

832
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: out in both camps. Just be smart and from our standpoint,

833
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: as long as we are allowed to legally to be

834
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: in this building, Colin and as of right now, okay,

835
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: no textal security. As of right now, we can be

836
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 2: in here. We're going to try to maintain our schedule

837
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: as much as we can. Again, if you want to

838
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,600
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839
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,000
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840
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841
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,120
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842
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520
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843
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844
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,319
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845
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,200
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