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Speaker 1: you ever done a TikTok? No, But we had a
Speaker 1: fun dance party. Hey, welcome to the Calm Down Podcast.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna jump right in. I'm on the DoD band.
Speaker 1: We did a little birthday party dance party the other day.
Speaker 1: We're kind of we had in my wedding and it
Speaker 1: was a bunch of ten year old, thirteen year olds
Speaker 1: and forty five year olds just getting down and they
Speaker 1: all knew all these songs that I had no idea
Speaker 1: and the dances like She's my bestpin. It was hilarious.
Speaker 1: I have not felt old until now. Like I don't
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Speaker 1: I too, love me discounted Louis Vuitton bag. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do reels. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to do TikTok's. I'll never forget. When I was
Speaker 1: covering for Extra, they were like, hey, um, go cover
Speaker 1: the kids, you know, Teen Choice Awards. I knew no
Speaker 1: one on that red carpet. I feel like, when when
Speaker 1: was it for you that you're like, oh, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not in the loop anymore, or maybe you get
Speaker 1: represented at the Teen Choice Awards. Snap, just being around
Speaker 1: these kids out here because we're with all these families
Speaker 1: and they know every word to every dirty rap song
Speaker 1: and I thought I was cool, but I was like,
Speaker 1: how do you know this? And yeah, I feel pretty old.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's working though maybe you feel old,
Speaker 1: but then you're gonna fit right in on that golf
Speaker 1: course because you in a polo shirt never have I
Speaker 1: ever and you look so like with your hair before.
Speaker 1: Is this Aaron in Montana? When I FaceTime do yesterday,
Speaker 1: you were at the driving range and nothing made me happy.
Speaker 1: So my husband's a huge like golf person, golfer person
Speaker 1: and person. You've been out here in Montana for about
Speaker 1: five six summers and this was the first time. Well
Speaker 1: last year I said I was going to do it.
Speaker 1: We have started to take lessons, So my girlfriend Ashley
Speaker 1: and I have started to take lessons and she's way better.
Speaker 1: And lessons consist of us just being on the driving range.
Speaker 1: So yesterday Ash was out of town. I just asked Jarrett,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go hit some balls later, um if
Speaker 1: he would come with me. And I really like it
Speaker 1: and I'd like to hit a driver before I was
Speaker 1: a seven iron. But the driver's fun. But you got
Speaker 1: to move the tea up a little bit. But then
Speaker 1: full disclosure. He always is like on Instagram. I'm always like,
Speaker 1: what are you looking at? What are you looking at? Oh?
Speaker 1: He's looking at stupid golf videos and stuff. And so
Speaker 1: now I get it because he took a video of
Speaker 1: me doing like my swing. I think I sent it
Speaker 1: to you. I didn't know you didn't, right, Okay, well
Speaker 1: we'll be putting it on the i G Calm Down.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the i G Calm Down Podcast, The Calm
Speaker 1: Down Podcast. I G. My arms need to stay straight,
Speaker 1: and imagine is my posture is horrible like this? But
Speaker 1: it's so fun. Where is it? I guess what I ordered?
Speaker 1: I ordered the back place. I ordered the brace. I
Speaker 1: wonder if I should wear it. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna put my riding range. That thing works, man.
Speaker 1: For those of you guys that don't know what we're
Speaker 1: talking about Aaron was wearing what looks like a backpack
Speaker 1: when you like, just in this shot that we have
Speaker 1: right here, but it pulls your shoulders back. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: try it on the range. I just like, are you
Speaker 1: enjoying that? That's a good thing to do with like
Speaker 1: a couple. With couples, you know, Oh yeah, I would
Speaker 1: not go on the course with him as a couple.
Speaker 1: I like when he comes out in the range with
Speaker 1: me and he fixes me, he says, I take coaching
Speaker 1: very very well. But yeah, I was excited to put
Speaker 1: my golf shirt on for you and it looks and
Speaker 1: a head out there after. Oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: the best version. I'm so happy that you're in a
Speaker 1: better mood this week in Montana. This is the errand
Speaker 1: that I need. In Montana. We dealt with the pillow shams,
Speaker 1: we dealt with the WiFi. You're in a better headspace
Speaker 1: and you look adorable. Must be the golfing. Well. I
Speaker 1: went to this acte puncturist out here today and she
Speaker 1: made me cry. It was awesome. I don't know, like
Speaker 1: what happened. And I go to acupuncture once a week
Speaker 1: for fertility stuff, for anxiety all that, and she was working.
Speaker 1: She said certain areas were talking to her and she
Speaker 1: said she wanted to put some um what I don't know,
Speaker 1: some what's the dotera this stuff, the smelling stuff that
Speaker 1: she told me to close my eyes and she would
Speaker 1: um tell me the scent that was speaking to me.
Speaker 1: And the one I picked it was very pepperminty. She
Speaker 1: said open your eyes and said read with the label
Speaker 1: says and it said breathe and I started to cry.
Speaker 1: And then Faith Hill played in the background, just reads
Speaker 1: for Groceries Yes with her hair. My gosh, I wanted
Speaker 1: to be faith Hill so bad that for prom that
Speaker 1: was when that album came out. I put in this
Speaker 1: terrible weave. It was like, I mean, which I've had
Speaker 1: a lot of bad weaves. I mean it is this
Speaker 1: one really took the cake. It was like a full on,
Speaker 1: like net kind of a thing. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: be faith Hell so bad. I'll tell you who else.
Speaker 1: I want to be Ali Webb who Hello, I'm so
Speaker 1: excited you guys. We had the co founder of Dry
Speaker 1: Bar and Squeeze, which is her new business venture, on
Speaker 1: the podcast Today. As entrepreneurs, Aaron and I are always curious,
Speaker 1: um and excited to talk to individuals who have done
Speaker 1: it and crushed it. Um, I want to know she
Speaker 1: couldn't do just one thing. She had to do too.
Speaker 1: Why don't you leave the rest for leave us a shot,
Speaker 1: give piece a chance, Ali, So we'll talk to her.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. But hello, I am so
Speaker 1: sorry I didn't tell you. Congratulations. You must be wearing
Speaker 1: blue for your lightning winning the cup. Hello, so exciting.
Speaker 1: My mom and dad went to the parade today. Very cute. Um,
Speaker 1: and yeah, that was amazing. I cried. We downloaded again
Speaker 1: the video to the Calm Down podcast. I G it
Speaker 1: was very emotional. I feel like when the Stanley Cup
Speaker 1: comes out anyways, it's super emotional. But just seeing the
Speaker 1: guys and it was the second year, then it was
Speaker 1: really excited because their families could go out and enjoy them.
Speaker 1: And then I don't think they let the families out
Speaker 1: on the ice, which I still have to get the
Speaker 1: full story from some of the wives about Sachosa McDonald,
Speaker 1: I don't know. NBC showed a shot of them standing
Speaker 1: at the glass and kind of being like, let us in,
Speaker 1: and I never saw any pictures of the families and
Speaker 1: the babies on the ice, which, as we've talked about before,
Speaker 1: que is very scary sometimes because you can fall right
Speaker 1: down that that girl's okay, by the way, just in
Speaker 1: case I was wondering from that at their video. Um,
Speaker 1: but that's so exciting or is it not as exciting
Speaker 1: because they've already won? How many? How many times have
Speaker 1: they won? Uh? Three times total as an organization owned?
Speaker 1: But back to back is how is it watching the
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup with Jared who has won to himself like,
Speaker 1: does he is it? Do you guys? Like turn the
Speaker 1: volume out and he like commentates the whole thing, what's happening? No,
Speaker 1: he tells me to calm down a lot, you know. Um.
Speaker 1: But he also I love it because he points out
Speaker 1: penalties before they get whistled. And it's really good too.
Speaker 1: If my team is playing and he's like, oh no,
Speaker 1: and I'm like what and he goes too many men
Speaker 1: or that was a cross check or things like that,
Speaker 1: or he'll be like oh boy, and I'm like good
Speaker 1: or bad? He's like really good for you guys, Like
Speaker 1: he's really good at seeing that stuff. And I love it,
Speaker 1: you know, very tony romo of him to call things
Speaker 1: before it actually is happening now. If only he could
Speaker 1: get Romo's paycheck. Speaking of paycheck, I want Ali Web's paycheck. Same.
Speaker 1: I'm excited or really interested to ask her how she
Speaker 1: adapted to the pandemic, because hello, I mean she was
Speaker 1: She is a salon and so she was hit. I'm
Speaker 1: sure the hardest. What does she change? What has she learned?
Speaker 1: How did she learn to deal with her business? All
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, lots of good questions. I have
Speaker 1: a question. Why am I so red? Maybe it's the shirt.
Speaker 1: Look at us, we're very patriotic in our red and
Speaker 1: blue here we are. I did a deep conditioning mass
Speaker 1: the other day. I'm so excited about it because I
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have a wee even and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get healthy. That's all your own hair. Still, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of hate. Let me tell you what,
Speaker 1: well you know you do. I've got to go easy
Speaker 1: on myself where it's going to start to fall out,
Speaker 1: um breathe. So I, like I said, I put a
Speaker 1: deep conditioner like masking, and I left it in all day.
Speaker 1: I was really excited because I made an effort for that.
Speaker 1: And then we were going out to dinner and I
Speaker 1: guess I didn't wash it out all the way I
Speaker 1: washed the top track, but I guess I didn't really
Speaker 1: get up in there. That is so greasy and nasty
Speaker 1: back here. Still you hit up the top track line. Um,
Speaker 1: we call that a top wash in the biz, because
Speaker 1: when you don't want to have to wash your whole weave,
Speaker 1: you just take this front part and wash it. And
Speaker 1: I well, remember how Aaron and I used to send
Speaker 1: each other pictures when we would take our individual clippings
Speaker 1: out and they have to dry them in the hotels
Speaker 1: and put them over the racks. It's always sexy. I was,
Speaker 1: actually it might be in this bad I was pulling
Speaker 1: out my extensions. I had to go do an interview
Speaker 1: with Ron Rivera and his wife Stephanie. It was incredible.
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about and those people that
Speaker 1: did you see his gold retriever? I wish Tahoe you mean?
Speaker 1: And Tahoe was in Tahoe. I was looking for my extension.
Speaker 1: This was so classy of me. I'm sitting in his
Speaker 1: living room and I was pulling my individual extensions out. Um.
Speaker 1: Anyone that doesn't know Ron Rivera's story is incredible. He's
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Washington football team, and last
Speaker 1: year he was diagnosed with cancer um in the start
Speaker 1: of the season and he went through chemo and he's
Speaker 1: in remission. Yea, how does he look? How does he
Speaker 1: sound great? He's yeah, he said he The biggest thing
Speaker 1: for him is just keeping weight on because his he
Speaker 1: just metabolizes things so fast from the treatments. But it
Speaker 1: was incredible, Aaron, I did you you worked some of
Speaker 1: their games? Right? I didn't get to see you. Didn't
Speaker 1: We didn't work you know what. Yes, but we did
Speaker 1: work their game this year, but we didn't get to
Speaker 1: see him, you know. And I wasn't on his sideline,
Speaker 1: got it? Yeah, I mean he was telling me that
Speaker 1: at halftime, so what's half time? Ten minutes? Teen minutes?
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, I don't um he would
Speaker 1: get an I V. He wouldn't even talk to the
Speaker 1: team at halftime. I mean the fact that he coached
Speaker 1: throughout the season and everything that he was going through.
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited that will air on NFL films.
Speaker 1: The UM presents those long form interviews. But what a
Speaker 1: team between Alex Smith and Rivera last year and then Washington,
Speaker 1: you know, looking to get. I'm excited for them this year.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be really good. They obviously
Speaker 1: their defense is their marquee, part of that UM team.
Speaker 1: They got a ton of reasons to be optimistic in Washington,
Speaker 1: so that was fun. But anyways, Yeah, so classy me
Speaker 1: was pulling out extensions. Not in front of Ron of course, coach.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. That's disrespectful. But never wait, I
Speaker 1: have to ask you a question. So before we came on,
Speaker 1: I was getting a real random FaceTime and not one
Speaker 1: that I'm like, I couldn't tell my husband. I tell
Speaker 1: by the way my husband at all because like I
Speaker 1: just encased it bites you in the bum bump. But um,
Speaker 1: it was just a random FaceTime. Well no, I was
Speaker 1: just saying a real random like no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: personally you know calling me, but it's just a random
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. If you're if I haven't heard
Speaker 1: from you in a really long time, don't FaceTime me
Speaker 1: when he's doing. There's no chance I'm gonna pick that up.
Speaker 1: I I only pick up your FaceTime. Who else would have?
Speaker 1: I think that's just you. That's that's that's how a
Speaker 1: FaceTime I would pick up. I don't. I don't get it, Like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? And by the way, it's
Speaker 1: very similar to the zoom thing now after COVID, Why
Speaker 1: does everything have to be a zoom? I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to get ready to do
Speaker 1: this meeting, so and I just go straight to the audio.
Speaker 1: The same thing on phones. I'm not into the face
Speaker 1: timing for no reason. Well I don't even have WiFi,
Speaker 1: so well, yeah, well you have WiFi. Now things are
Speaker 1: going great, things are about to get even better. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: so i'd be curious. Actually, let's take that to the
Speaker 1: I g um, Paul, Do we like a FaceTime from
Speaker 1: someone we're not that close to when I'm here and
Speaker 1: makeup ready? Sure, but that happens once a week during
Speaker 1: the season. The rest of the time, I look like
Speaker 1: I just got hit by truck. So I don't need
Speaker 1: you facetiming me because guess what I'm not going to
Speaker 1: show you. My favorite is when someone you don't know,
Speaker 1: when you're not wearing any makeup, and someone's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I didn't recognize you, Like, do you think
Speaker 1: that's a compliment? Which part of that statement do you
Speaker 1: think is a compliment by saying, oh, I didn't recognize
Speaker 1: you that they see you, like at a game, when
Speaker 1: fans used to be able to come up to you
Speaker 1: and be like, you're so much skinnier than you are
Speaker 1: on TV. Get away from me, Like, who needs that?
Speaker 1: It's so rude to you because I asked for that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's it's along the same lines of
Speaker 1: you look tired. Okay, when in the history of anyone
Speaker 1: saying you look tired, is that going to be taken
Speaker 1: as a compliment. Yeah, I'm Oh my god, you're you're
Speaker 1: in a good place with social media right now, aren't
Speaker 1: you tell us about that? I'm so over social media,
Speaker 1: you guys, I love these people like I took a
Speaker 1: d tux from social media. I'm I'm getting off social
Speaker 1: media first. I'll just get off. Okay. We don't need
Speaker 1: to make an announcement. We don't need a press release,
Speaker 1: and we don't need a press release that telling everyone
Speaker 1: now I've come back. I've been off social media for
Speaker 1: a month. No one knew you were gone. Okay, no
Speaker 1: one cares. I sat in the Starbucks parking lot the
Speaker 1: other day for forty five minutes, just everything I scolled.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: She's annoying. This is and I'm like, why am I
Speaker 1: doing this to myself? It makes me upset? It makes
Speaker 1: me jealous. I want to be on the French riviera. Okay,
Speaker 1: so everything on Instagram is making me angry or annoyed.
Speaker 1: So what am I wasting forty five minutes of my day?
Speaker 1: And the Starbucks parking lot doing it for it's it's again.
Speaker 1: It goes back to being a massacrest. I do this
Speaker 1: to myself. I work myself all up. I need the acupuncture,
Speaker 1: peppermint patty you do and the breed. I feel that
Speaker 1: way a lot about social media. Yeah, it really goes
Speaker 1: with like I feel like my cycle. I'm either happy
Speaker 1: or I am sad or the cycle again? What dare
Speaker 1: you in your cyclen? Who knows that? I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you still have one? I don't have one?
Speaker 1: What do you mean because I'm like forty three? That's
Speaker 1: I need new eggs? I mean me, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want to have a period, so I don't have one. Well,
Speaker 1: you gotta have a period to I was related to
Speaker 1: this game by the way. Every man is just checked out.
Speaker 1: That's ever listened to our podcast, stay with us where
Speaker 1: we'll bring it back. Okay, we'll talk about a Tampa
Speaker 1: two defense in a second. Okay, single highest safety coming
Speaker 1: at you real quick. Stay with us, Stay alive people.
Speaker 1: That defense is really bleeding today. What who's filling the
Speaker 1: egg gap? Um? I don't want to period, and I
Speaker 1: was really late to that game. I found out a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago you didn't have to have one,
Speaker 1: and I was like, why did I ever want one?
Speaker 1: If you are like me and you cannot get pregnant
Speaker 1: and you're doing this whole fertility IVF thing, you better
Speaker 1: have a period. But I already did. I'd already did
Speaker 1: my freezing of the Higgs and I didn't and I
Speaker 1: didn't happen to do it again, to do it as
Speaker 1: many times as I have. I no, I'll go with
Speaker 1: you next time. No one needs that. Um. Okay for
Speaker 1: those men that are still listening, we're bringing alle Web
Speaker 1: on here in a second. Um. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: ask her what day she's on her cycle, So that'll
Speaker 1: be fun. It's a common thing when you're doing when
Speaker 1: you're doing I v F, what da are you. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what day it is. What what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Wait? Hold on, one more thing
Speaker 1: about social media? But barstool put up a video the
Speaker 1: other day. Did you see the girl this never ends fall,
Speaker 1: then jumped off the roof, dumps on the trampoline and
Speaker 1: then flips over in the pool. No. I did not
Speaker 1: see that. But that's the only reason I should just
Speaker 1: do my settings. So just barstool comes up because or
Speaker 1: like funny videos. They actually put a video up the
Speaker 1: other day of a spelling bee I did with those
Speaker 1: boys back in like two thousand and sixteen, maybe when
Speaker 1: they were broke, and now they are rich rich. Speaking
Speaker 1: of rich, Ali Webb coming up after the break, I
Speaker 1: have so many questions, so many questions. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to the bat. How do you get rich? It's not
Speaker 1: my st Hi Ali, Hi, Ali, Hi, we welcome in
Speaker 1: now a New York Times best selling author and co
Speaker 1: founder of Dry Bar and now Squeeze. I'm excited to
Speaker 1: talk to you about all things business and life. Ali Webb,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I was saying before you jumped on,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I needed to go to dry bar.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is pathetic that I have you on
Speaker 1: and my hair is in a ponytail. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so embarrassing. They were they're just starting to open again.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's kind of a rough year back. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank god. We're dying to talk to you just about
Speaker 1: how that challenged you mentally and your business and what
Speaker 1: you did to overcome a lot of things. But first, Ali,
Speaker 1: I actually the reason why we reached out to you
Speaker 1: as I was telling a story about the clothing line
Speaker 1: that I started finally three years ago, but I got
Speaker 1: sitting thank you. But I was sitting at Justin's house
Speaker 1: with you getting our roots done, and I think I
Speaker 1: showed you my legally blonde bend and snap move about
Speaker 1: getting a pen on the field, which I haven't told
Speaker 1: Calm Down podcast about. But I died for your whole
Speaker 1: story about how you told me you banged down so
Speaker 1: many doors and these people would look at you in
Speaker 1: the face and say that sounds like a salon. I
Speaker 1: love that story. Please tell us about being in your
Speaker 1: thirties having this idea and how you got people to
Speaker 1: listen to you. Well, I mean it was. It was
Speaker 1: definitely personal necessity. Obviously, we didn't invent blowouts. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're not inventing clothes, You're just inventing a different
Speaker 1: kind of experience around it, right, which there's so many similarities.
Speaker 1: And we were, you know, I as a girl, naturally
Speaker 1: curly hair, girl who grew up in South Florida with frizzy,
Speaker 1: humid weather, you know, just kind of longed for a
Speaker 1: place like dry bar and you know, very very long
Speaker 1: story short, you know, I became a hair stylist, professional
Speaker 1: hair style, was learned how to blow out my own hair,
Speaker 1: and was a stay at home mom, and I started
Speaker 1: a mobile blowout business in l A where I was
Speaker 1: like blow drying all my mommy friend's hair and it
Speaker 1: was only charting like forty bucks because it was like
Speaker 1: two twenties. Seemed really easy, and that was a great
Speaker 1: little business and like that was a great, you know
Speaker 1: way for me to get out of the house, get
Speaker 1: away from my kids for a couple of hours, earn
Speaker 1: a little extra cash, which I don't think I actually did,
Speaker 1: but it was a great like idea. And that's when
Speaker 1: I realized that there's really no place for women to
Speaker 1: go for an affordable blowout at a great place where
Speaker 1: you know, the focus is blowout. And and to your point,
Speaker 1: when I first started, you know, talking to me about this,
Speaker 1: like women immediately got it. They loved the idea. You know.
Speaker 1: It was like even my brother Michael, who became my
Speaker 1: business partner in this, he was like, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Like Sarah, his wife, like she's got straight hair and
Speaker 1: just drives straight. I'm like, she's like pent and those
Speaker 1: women don't have hair. This drives perfectly straight out their heads,
Speaker 1: you know, and most women can't do their hair themselves,
Speaker 1: you know. And and so you know, we started talking
Speaker 1: about this. I gotten him into the idea, you know,
Speaker 1: and then we Mike, I was lucky, you know that
Speaker 1: Michael put up the first two and fifty thou dollars,
Speaker 1: so that really like got us out the door. And
Speaker 1: then we realized we needed money. Um and I think
Speaker 1: you know the story you were alluding to is like
Speaker 1: when we started raising like big money because we knew
Speaker 1: we were onto something. We had opened Brentwood, it was
Speaker 1: like Gangbusters. We'd opened the second location. We've kind of
Speaker 1: been bootstrapping it and friends and family, but when we
Speaker 1: started going to like private equity and the big money guys.
Speaker 1: You know, they were like what you know, and like
Speaker 1: maybe a sister or their wife had heard of dry bar,
Speaker 1: but they just were like, you know, didn't didn't totally
Speaker 1: get it. And it was like many many meetings and
Speaker 1: we were doing a formal process and many of those
Speaker 1: meetings were like, you know, guys were looking at me
Speaker 1: like I was sucking crazy and they're like, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: It's just blowouts and you know, and it was like
Speaker 1: it was a really hard hurdle to get over explaining
Speaker 1: it to a room full of men, like really like
Speaker 1: the whole concept of blowout was completely lost on them
Speaker 1: and they didn't really get it um. And so we
Speaker 1: went through a lot of different like groups of venture
Speaker 1: capitalists and private equity guys and until we got to
Speaker 1: what became our partner in castanea you know who who
Speaker 1: didn't first of all got got the idea. They also
Speaker 1: had Janet Gerwy she was the founder of Laura Mercy
Speaker 1: a Cosmetics, so she was a born she really got
Speaker 1: the concept and they were like, we don't want to
Speaker 1: mess with it. We wanted to be you know, just
Speaker 1: the way you wanted to be and and then the
Speaker 1: Cassinea definitely asked this question. But most of the private
Speaker 1: equity partner firms that we were talking to were like,
Speaker 1: why don't you do makeup and add like sell nail
Speaker 1: polish and do all that you know, do sell all
Speaker 1: this other ship because you have this captive audience of
Speaker 1: a hundred plus women coming in your shops today. And
Speaker 1: you know, I had to really stick to my guns
Speaker 1: with that. And I mean, there's so many of those
Speaker 1: early days stories, but but yeah, you know, I just
Speaker 1: I really believed in this thing that I knew so
Speaker 1: well and I knew like like nothing else I really
Speaker 1: knew in my life as well as I knew this
Speaker 1: that I knew this would work, and I and I'm
Speaker 1: imagined it would only be in a very small scale.
Speaker 1: We never ever would have imagined it would turn into
Speaker 1: a hundred locations in a product gun and all the
Speaker 1: others which I'm upsets with the dry shampoo thank you
Speaker 1: for that, by the wall, Oh my god, it smells
Speaker 1: so good. Um, but you you just mentioned it ali
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty over a hundred and fifty locations
Speaker 1: in ten years because you opened up the Brentwood store
Speaker 1: back in two thou eleven years I guess right, two
Speaker 1: thousand and ten, you guys have opened up that store.
Speaker 1: Is there a moment where you're driving down the road
Speaker 1: and you look over and you're like, oh, there's a
Speaker 1: dry bar. I started that like I would trip out
Speaker 1: if because I saw one the other day and I
Speaker 1: knew that we're going to talk to you, and I
Speaker 1: was like thinking, how cool that must be as an
Speaker 1: entrepreneur to watch an idea become an incredible movement that has,
Speaker 1: you know, as solidified its place now. Yeah, it is
Speaker 1: so surreal. You know. I remember being in New York
Speaker 1: City years ago and walking I love to walk on
Speaker 1: them in New York and walking like from like a
Speaker 1: long ways in the city and probably passing four different
Speaker 1: dry ours and being likely, sh it, that's that's mine,
Speaker 1: the idea. You know. It's like, yeah, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like we're like neck and neck with Nordstrums in terms
Speaker 1: of like how many locations. It's like Nordstrom. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like to me that, you know, so, yeah, I
Speaker 1: have moments like that, you know, and then I have
Speaker 1: moments where it's like it doesn't even like enter my
Speaker 1: mind and then and then there's like other you know,
Speaker 1: it's like dry bar has given me such a platform
Speaker 1: and has opened up so many doors for me personally
Speaker 1: to do other things that I want to do in
Speaker 1: other businesses and other all this other stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty surreal. I mean, if then, if you
Speaker 1: were asked like my parents as a kid and growing up,
Speaker 1: I was such a like I was. I can't even
Speaker 1: believe this, but I was. I was definitely like a
Speaker 1: wall flower. My brother was always in trouble and I
Speaker 1: was always kind of sitting back, and you know, my
Speaker 1: my parents would be the first to say, like, who
Speaker 1: would have ever thought? You know, it's like took a
Speaker 1: while to come into my own and then to have
Speaker 1: done it, and this like you know, such a like
Speaker 1: on such a rocket ship has been She's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty overwhelming, Like, you know, what how been
Speaker 1: to my life in the last eleven years? With all
Speaker 1: the locations that you have and who you are and
Speaker 1: who you've become, how much pressure is there for your
Speaker 1: hair not to look like shit? There is pressure? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean literally, I don't think I had washed my
Speaker 1: hair like today's the first day I washed my hair
Speaker 1: in like five days, and I was like, I know
Speaker 1: I'm going to be on video whether other people see
Speaker 1: it or not. I'm like, yeah, I gain my hair
Speaker 1: as the heinous lours Ago. So I do feel a
Speaker 1: little bit of although I don't really judge other people
Speaker 1: the way other people think I do, because I'm also like,
Speaker 1: I don't like hair to be perfect. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: like hair a little messy and not SuperFect, which you
Speaker 1: know kind of goes against my brand. But do you
Speaker 1: ever like secret shopper it? If I was you, I'd
Speaker 1: go into a dry bar and I would sit down
Speaker 1: as a client, and I would like to see what's happening.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard if so many people have asked
Speaker 1: me that, and I have I would like to do that.
Speaker 1: And every once in a while I'll walk in a
Speaker 1: shop and they won't know who I am, which honestly
Speaker 1: makes me more annoyed because I'm like history of the Bread, Yes,
Speaker 1: well I am um, and I'm just I'm Frankly, I'm
Speaker 1: not in the stores anymore, and I'm not in the
Speaker 1: day to day business anymore. But it's and and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard for me to go into a dry
Speaker 1: bar for the most part because I'm very Oh it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, everything stands out to me where when necessarily
Speaker 1: but like I see all the things that are like
Speaker 1: not exactly the way I want them to be. And
Speaker 1: then especially going in you know, post pandemic, and we
Speaker 1: just started opening them again and we were like spacing
Speaker 1: out and like everyone's wearing masks and the thing, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, this is not I mean, I
Speaker 1: know we have to do it and it's important, but
Speaker 1: it's like this is not like that. It's bustling and
Speaker 1: busy and crowded, and that's like the beauty of it.
Speaker 1: So it's that's been adjustment, I mean, just like anything
Speaker 1: else that we've all had to adjust to. Um, it's
Speaker 1: not exactly my baby the way it was, you know.
Speaker 1: So I remember it was really this time last year.
Speaker 1: We were all sitting out here in Montana, this group
Speaker 1: that I have, and there's a lot of people involved
Speaker 1: in the NFL here, and we were kind of wondering
Speaker 1: are we going back to work. I was in your
Speaker 1: two of my clothing lines, thinking, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: thing's gonna die right here and there when everything starts
Speaker 1: shutting down, alley in l a and and all over
Speaker 1: the country. What are you thinking about your baby? I
Speaker 1: mean about dry Bar. Yeah, I mean I thought that
Speaker 1: it was like over for us too, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean it was you know, we were lucky that we
Speaker 1: had iron I mean, by the grace of like god,
Speaker 1: we sold the product division in early January, right before
Speaker 1: the world like the world fell apart, so we you know,
Speaker 1: the business sustained itself with that luckily for a little while,
Speaker 1: you know, And we were trying to do things like
Speaker 1: incentives for employees and we were just trying to do
Speaker 1: whatever we could. But it was like it was scary.
Speaker 1: It was like we were faced with this, like oh
Speaker 1: my god, this could be like it like Dryver could
Speaker 1: just be done, you know, and and and listen, it
Speaker 1: kind of came close to that, and we we we
Speaker 1: worked it out and we are still here. But it was,
Speaker 1: you know, it was very touch and go there for
Speaker 1: a while, and it was like this is how this
Speaker 1: ends like this, you know, it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: not that thought, that thought and idea I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of my life's work. And then it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna go bankrupt because we don't you know,
Speaker 1: because it was obviously I mean, you do the math.
Speaker 1: It's like we had all these locations with all this
Speaker 1: rent to pay, no money coming in, and it was
Speaker 1: the scariest, like craziest, like you just you know. I
Speaker 1: remember my brother used always say, like, you know, you
Speaker 1: have to save up for rainy day, and what if
Speaker 1: the world falls apart. It's like that's never gonna happen,
Speaker 1: and then it happens, and you're like, holy ship. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: very very scary, and thank god we got through it.
Speaker 1: Like did you you know Aaron's um a few years
Speaker 1: into her successful clothing brand, I started an interior design company,
Speaker 1: And I'm curious, from you know, your bird's eye view. Now,
Speaker 1: sitting at the top as a business owner and entrepreneur
Speaker 1: with such success, were you overwhelmed? I'm overwhelmed by the business.
Speaker 1: I'm not business savvy. I know that I know what
Speaker 1: I know and I know design, but I don't know
Speaker 1: the business part of it. How did you learn or
Speaker 1: was that something that was innate to you or who
Speaker 1: helped you with I don't I don't really consider myself
Speaker 1: business savvy either. I think maybe other people do, and
Speaker 1: I think I've learned a lot about business, and I
Speaker 1: probably know more probably like you than most people know
Speaker 1: because when because when you start a business, as you know,
Speaker 1: you're kind of thrust into like making decisions on ship
Speaker 1: that you're like, I don't know, I'm just gonna you know,
Speaker 1: but I was likely to have like a good partner
Speaker 1: and my brother who was much more business savvy than
Speaker 1: I was, which is always like advice I give people.
Speaker 1: It's like find that person that you really trust that
Speaker 1: kind of not only is good at the stuff that
Speaker 1: you're not, but like enjoys it so that you could
Speaker 1: go enjoy design and do the thing that you love,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we we had that conversation so
Speaker 1: much like what is my alley's highest and best use?
Speaker 1: And it was like the training program, the customer service
Speaker 1: in the shop, you know, the way the shop looked
Speaker 1: and felt, and like how we talked to people, like
Speaker 1: all all of that stuff, like I was really good
Speaker 1: at that, you know, spreadsheet and payroll and are no,
Speaker 1: thank you, I don't want to do it, and sometimes
Speaker 1: we have to. And I did in the beginning, I
Speaker 1: mean I did. I did do payroll in the early days.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they did it well. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, of course, I think it's good to go
Speaker 1: through the motions of it, but I think it's like
Speaker 1: give yourself a break and let somebody else take that
Speaker 1: on because they'll be better at it also than you know.
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of you know, And I'm in the
Speaker 1: throes of that right now with my jewelry company that
Speaker 1: I started, Beckoning Quill and uh, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: really really tiny and it's all direct to consumers, so
Speaker 1: it's very different than what I know, which is like
Speaker 1: breaking mortar. And it's like, oh, I have to get
Speaker 1: people to go to my website to buy stuff, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that, and I'm figuring
Speaker 1: that out. I'm trying to like pull favors and leverage
Speaker 1: people and ask as many people as like hey, because
Speaker 1: I just don't know how to do it, you know,
Speaker 1: and I kind of find the challenge fun, you know,
Speaker 1: like how do I get this business off the ground.
Speaker 1: What's the trick um? Because I'm determined to crack the
Speaker 1: code and I was like, there is a coat, But
Speaker 1: you know, it's the same thing. There's so much about
Speaker 1: this that business that I don't really enjoy doing. Like
Speaker 1: there's stuff about you and I think figuring out and
Speaker 1: and like sourcing out the other stuff is really so important.
Speaker 1: You sound like and I and I know, just spending
Speaker 1: a little bit of time with you that I have
Speaker 1: in person. You have a ton of ideas all the time.
Speaker 1: You know, no matter what's going on in your life,
Speaker 1: how do you handle that? How do you deal with it?
Speaker 1: So you're not going nuts? Well, it's it's interesting because
Speaker 1: I'm at this like strange phase in my life where
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like what now, Like what am I
Speaker 1: doing now? It's like, you know, I'm still involved in
Speaker 1: dry round on the board and and that sort of thing,
Speaker 1: but not in the day to day operations, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm an advisor and investor and Squeeze and then we
Speaker 1: just launched this okay humans the therapy concept, and then
Speaker 1: I have back in and Quill and I'm writing a
Speaker 1: book and I'm like, you know, to your point, I'm
Speaker 1: just like so many things, um, but I but I'm
Speaker 1: like trying to figure out like what's like the next
Speaker 1: like what am I doing for like the next ten years?
Speaker 1: And maybe it is like I think, I mean, like
Speaker 1: the figuring it out kind of phase right now, because
Speaker 1: I do come up with a lot of ideas, and
Speaker 1: my fiance and I are like working on a lot
Speaker 1: of things together, and so I'm just kind of like
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm at this stage where I'm throwing
Speaker 1: a lot at the wall and seeing what what sticks
Speaker 1: and what makes me the most happy and trying to
Speaker 1: just put a lot out there and see where see
Speaker 1: where I land. And I don't know, do you feel it?
Speaker 1: Just kind of do you feel pressure? I mean in
Speaker 1: that thing of like, oh, dry Bar is so successful,
Speaker 1: like now it's like okay, the next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: we're in the sports world and you know, you win
Speaker 1: uh Lombardi Trophy and then it's like okay, but then
Speaker 1: go do it again, and go do it again and
Speaker 1: do it again. And so this idea of having a
Speaker 1: successful business and then being having that entrepreneurial spirit to
Speaker 1: start other companies. But do feel pressure to haven't be
Speaker 1: successful the same way I do sometimes? But I feel
Speaker 1: like I try to like get in front of that
Speaker 1: pressure by like talking about, you know, my jewelry company
Speaker 1: as like it could work and it could not work.
Speaker 1: And I think that like I've had a really successful
Speaker 1: business I've had a really good run, and I probably
Speaker 1: won't have other businesses that are quite as successful or
Speaker 1: dry as dry Bar is, and or maybe I will.
Speaker 1: And then it's like, you know, you hear people say
Speaker 1: all the time, and I know it's cliche like our
Speaker 1: failures build us and our mistakes make us and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, but it's really true, you know. And it's
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm you know, just kind of giving all
Speaker 1: these new ideas a shot now, and I'm sure some
Speaker 1: will work and some won't. And I like to be
Speaker 1: really transparent about that because it's not like, oh, just
Speaker 1: because I've had success means I'm going to have success again,
Speaker 1: and you know, and I had little bits of success
Speaker 1: before dry Bar, but obviously not on the scale um,
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I mean, I feel pressure, but
Speaker 1: I also feel like a freedom to like I can
Speaker 1: like I've done some really great things and now I
Speaker 1: can kind of like not sit back in a way
Speaker 1: of like relaxing, but I can like kind of do
Speaker 1: what I relive and I can yeah, and you know what,
Speaker 1: all these different things and then then to see what
Speaker 1: makes me happy, and you know, my life is like,
Speaker 1: you know, I met a new guy, and I fell
Speaker 1: in love, and I'm like, tell us about that, where
Speaker 1: did you meet him? You know? I met a new
Speaker 1: guy and I fell in love and I'm like, tell
Speaker 1: us about like that, where did you meet him? Well,
Speaker 1: you'll laugh. We met through this company called the Three
Speaker 1: Day Rule. It's a matchmaking service. I was like dating
Speaker 1: after I got divorced, and I was dating on all
Speaker 1: these like you know, these like apps and they stopped
Speaker 1: made no offense my friends. But I just had a
Speaker 1: hard time finding, you know, the right guy for me,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm like, I'm a pretty strong like
Speaker 1: female and you know, and successful and all the things.
Speaker 1: And I was meeting guys who were like either intimidated
Speaker 1: or just like you know, they were like they wanted
Speaker 1: kids still, and I was like, yeah, no, that ship
Speaker 1: has sailed. And I was just like, lining up your
Speaker 1: stuff is hard. And so I had on my podcast,
Speaker 1: Raising the Bar, I had the founder of this company,
Speaker 1: the Three Day Rule tell you. She came on and
Speaker 1: she was like, listen, we prioritize like working out and
Speaker 1: how we eat and all this ship and our jobs,
Speaker 1: but we don't prioritize our love lives. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you're right, because I was like, it feels like kind
Speaker 1: of desperate to hire somebody, to meet somebody. But she's
Speaker 1: like why, you know, It's like it's just like anything else.
Speaker 1: If you hire a headhunter to find a great job,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like yeah, and so I hired them
Speaker 1: and they Adrian, my fiance now, is the third guy
Speaker 1: I met and like it was like really like love
Speaker 1: at first sight. And we've been together almost two years.
Speaker 1: And he's like coach. He's an executive coach, so like
Speaker 1: you can he coaches like founders like me, so perfect
Speaker 1: know how that goes? Yeah, So I mean this like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was in a marriage for sixteen years.
Speaker 1: That was you know, Cam was like my best friend
Speaker 1: and we built driver together. We have two amazing kids.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like that like wow, like knock you over,
Speaker 1: like love affair that I'm experiencing now. So I was
Speaker 1: like that part of my life. It's kind of back.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't have it. You can have italus
Speaker 1: proof of this look at her. Yeah, just at different times.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like for like I I was married
Speaker 1: for sixteen years and I and I think we're both
Speaker 1: kind of like ship. This is it like this, uh
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like right, you know, and then you know,
Speaker 1: meeting Adrian and like, oh, I think this was what
Speaker 1: I was supposed to feel like, you know, um and
Speaker 1: I have a relationship with my ex and you know,
Speaker 1: we it's like, yeah, I mean it's personally it feels
Speaker 1: like where my life is supposed to be in that way,
Speaker 1: And you know, I think I was just like not
Speaker 1: paying attention to my marriage when we're building dry Bar
Speaker 1: because just just so dry Bar was like my third
Speaker 1: baby and it was just like every everything we had
Speaker 1: and Cam was in the business too, is a creative
Speaker 1: mastermind of dry Bar. Everything we had went to Dry Bar.
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, you know, like what I feel,
Speaker 1: you know, really have fallen in love and enjoying that
Speaker 1: part of my life that I was ignoring for twenty years.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like everything is like how opened into
Speaker 1: a strange order. Good for you. I'm just glad it's happened.
Speaker 1: It gives people like myself and Chris. I hope you
Speaker 1: may have already answered this with COVID and maybe you
Speaker 1: know your divorce and so forth. What's been the hardest
Speaker 1: part about being you? And you know, having all these
Speaker 1: ideas and businesses and you know, throwing stuff against the wall. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's probably like the pressure, you know, like
Speaker 1: you were saying, it's like what you know, I really don't.
Speaker 1: I don't put a lot of emphasis on what people
Speaker 1: think necessarily, but it is this like, you know, will
Speaker 1: I will anything I do, you know, become as successful
Speaker 1: as drybar? You know? Um and you know where where
Speaker 1: you know? I remember when I was going through my
Speaker 1: divorce and my life is really falling apart, and I
Speaker 1: ended up going to this place called on Site in Nashville.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have heard of it. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like the Hoffman um and it was a
Speaker 1: place where you go where you like did your phone
Speaker 1: for six days or like serious intensive therapy. And anyways,
Speaker 1: I who runs it, this guy Miles addicts he's amazing.
Speaker 1: And I had a conversation with him before I went,
Speaker 1: which was like a very weepy conversation when I was
Speaker 1: just like on the floor a mess, and he was like,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people who have reached this
Speaker 1: kind of success you have and you got it's kind
Speaker 1: of like I know, it's a little like woe is me,
Speaker 1: but it's like this lonely at the top thing. It's
Speaker 1: like what now, Like what am I building now? And where?
Speaker 1: You know, It's it's less of a like pressure but
Speaker 1: what other people think. It's more of a like finding
Speaker 1: what like gets me excited to get out of bed
Speaker 1: in the morning again. I think that's like the biggest
Speaker 1: personal like challenge in the mix of now. It's like Adrian,
Speaker 1: my fiance, he's like building his business and he's like
Speaker 1: he's really into like the building phase, and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like, well, can we travel? Can we just go?
Speaker 1: Like because you couldn't know that, you know, um so yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm in this like what feels like I think
Speaker 1: I said, like no man's land of like trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what makes me kind of tick now and
Speaker 1: that feels like a little bit of a weird lonely place.
Speaker 1: Um but but I'll so fun and exciting. It just
Speaker 1: depends on the day. You know. Some days I'm like,
Speaker 1: I love that I don't know what's happening the next day,
Speaker 1: and I do love that. I love that, like every
Speaker 1: day brings a new opportunity. And I've been so lucky
Speaker 1: to meet so many great people and have so many
Speaker 1: great connections and I know so many cool people. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like, what's gonna happen next? Well,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of things and before we let
Speaker 1: you go, Ali, I'd be remissed if as a someone
Speaker 1: who's trying to get my little engine that could business
Speaker 1: off the ground. What is the best advice that you
Speaker 1: received as a first time entrepreneur that you still apply
Speaker 1: to all your other eventures. I mean, I think it's
Speaker 1: being an approachable boss is a big one. You know.
Speaker 1: In the early days of Drive Off, Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: like pretty unapproachable and I didn't realize it. You know.
Speaker 1: It was like my thank God. My brother was the
Speaker 1: person who was like, hey, people are scared of you.
Speaker 1: And I'm like what you know. I'm like, I'm so nice.
Speaker 1: What are you talking to me? He's like you're not.
Speaker 1: He's like, you can be really hard to talk to you,
Speaker 1: and you know, and I was like, oh ship, you know.
Speaker 1: And I in the early days, I would walk into
Speaker 1: dry bar and like lose my ship. I'd be like cleaning.
Speaker 1: I'd be on my hands and knees cleaning the foot baby.
Speaker 1: I get it. Everybody about everything, and while it's important
Speaker 1: to have the one person who who cares about it
Speaker 1: that much as as the founder, you know. I think
Speaker 1: what I learned over time was like creating an environment
Speaker 1: where people feel like they can come to you and say, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is working or have you thought
Speaker 1: about this without like getting their head chopped off, without
Speaker 1: feeling like they're not going to be heard and seen,
Speaker 1: you know, and creating an environment where also people get
Speaker 1: a little more autonomy. Like I was very much like
Speaker 1: it was like my way of the highway, and I
Speaker 1: felt like I knew everything. I felt like I had
Speaker 1: to know everything. I had this like unrealistic like I
Speaker 1: had to know everything, and like you said, like you're
Speaker 1: not you know, you don't feel like you're that business savvy.
Speaker 1: But then people come to you and ask you, and
Speaker 1: you're like, well, who else is going to answer this thing?
Speaker 1: I've got to be the one that answered And so
Speaker 1: you just you feel like this sense of like I
Speaker 1: have to know everything, and it's and so it's very
Speaker 1: vulnerable to will say you know what I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't actually know? Can you know? Maybe you can figure
Speaker 1: it out, you know, versus like oh, I'm the boss
Speaker 1: and I should know the answer some I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: tell you an answer, which which there's some of that too,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you just are the person. But I think
Speaker 1: you know the moral of the story is like getting
Speaker 1: surrounding yourself, being the kind of person that has people
Speaker 1: around you that aren't yes, people people who feel empowered,
Speaker 1: and like those people work so much harder for you anyways,
Speaker 1: because they feel like they're not in this like oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I just do what I'm told, and
Speaker 1: then you know, because like that, they're gonna something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you empower and then they feel like they're part of
Speaker 1: the bigger picture. And when you get people to feel
Speaker 1: invested than they care more than like and then they're
Speaker 1: not leaving. You know. I can't tell how many managers
Speaker 1: who have come up to me and have we're telling
Speaker 1: me about their store and they're like, so I'm doing
Speaker 1: this and this happened, you know, and they refer to
Speaker 1: it as like my dry bar, and then they're like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know it's like yours. No, No, I
Speaker 1: want you to feel like it's yours, and I want
Speaker 1: you to have this ownership in it, and that like ownership,
Speaker 1: it goes so much further than money and any anything else.
Speaker 1: Like it's that, like they feel like it's there's and
Speaker 1: they're and they're really to your point, invested in it
Speaker 1: and they want to work harder. Well, Ali, you are
Speaker 1: a very busy woman. Yeah it is. You're a very
Speaker 1: busy woman with all sorts of things. You've got Beckett
Speaker 1: and Quill raising the bars, your podcast, you have squeeze
Speaker 1: in a Corse dry bar. Thank you for taking time
Speaker 1: out of your very busy schedule having to shed some
Speaker 1: light and congratulations on love. Love looks good on you
Speaker 1: and the new Man. Thank you. I feel very grateful,
Speaker 1: good for you, Thank you, thank you. Calm Down with
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