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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody, Welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. We are doing our free agency

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Speaker 1: preview today. It's a slightly delayed episode because of some

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Speaker 1: scheduling conflicts. I was pushing up kidney stones earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week and doing some traveling, so we had to

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Speaker 1: push this one back. But we are very excited to

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Speaker 1: kick off our off season baseball content a little bit

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Speaker 1: earlier than usual. But we love baseball, we love talking

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Speaker 1: about it. We could only keep us away for so long.

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Speaker 1: I am your host today. Joel Rico joined for I

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Speaker 1: believe the first time we've ever done a show together

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Speaker 1: by the Wonky Penguin. Kelly Kirby, Kelly, how you doing today.

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Speaker 1: It's great to talk with you.

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Speaker 2: Finally, I'm doing pretty well. I'm very excited to be

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Speaker 2: on podcast with you. I think whenever I've seen you

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Speaker 2: on like leading off, I'm like, nah, I think you

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Speaker 2: and I would have some really good vibes. So I'm

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Speaker 2: glad they put us together for this, And I'm really

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Speaker 2: glad that you might be past your kidney stones because

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Speaker 2: that just sounded horrific.

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Speaker 1: So they're still kicking around in there, but We've got

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Speaker 1: the right comment nation of meds that makes it so

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Speaker 1: I can get through a podcast and get back into

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Speaker 1: the working world after having to take a couple of

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Speaker 1: days off. But it's great to be back talking baseball.

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Speaker 1: I haven't done a podcast in a few weeks, and

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Speaker 1: we got a lot of fun players to talk about. Today,

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Speaker 1: we are going to be breaking down the free agent

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Speaker 1: class of twenty twenty four slash twenty twenty five, and

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Speaker 1: I think there's really nowhere else to start except with

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Speaker 1: Juan Sota, who is the by far the biggest name

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Speaker 1: available in the class. There is a chance that he

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Speaker 1: gets the biggest contract we've ever seen. I know that

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Speaker 1: there's you know, with all the deferred money and all that,

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Speaker 1: things do get complicated, But Wan Soto is going to

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Speaker 1: get an absolute haul that could exceed six hundred million dollars,

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Speaker 1: and it probably should after the year he just put

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Speaker 1: together one hundred and twenty eight runs, forty one homers,

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Speaker 1: nine RBI, seven stolen bases, and he also hit two

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Speaker 1: to sixty nine slugging. I do think that the landing

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Speaker 1: spot does come down to probably three places. I've heard

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Speaker 1: Toronto thrown around in there. I'm not going to get

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Speaker 1: It does seem like New York in terms of the

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Speaker 1: Yankees and the Mets are going to be the front runners,

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Speaker 1: and also the Dodgers. Kelly, do you have a lean

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Speaker 1: right now or where you think Wan Soto is going

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be really hard for him to not

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Speaker 2: go back to the Yankees, given that they made it

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Speaker 2: Judge just created such a monstrous you know, two three

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Speaker 2: Blue Jay has got him, but I understand you wanting

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Speaker 2: to avoid that type of thing two years in a row,

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Speaker 2: and maybe we just won't track planes this offseason. But

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Speaker 2: I suppose you could go to the Mets. I just

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Speaker 2: feel like I feel like the Yankees are gonna kind

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Speaker 2: and if the Dodgers swoop in and get him, then

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Speaker 2: you know, that's just the end. Of baseball as we

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Speaker 2: know it, right, So.

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Speaker 1: If he goes to the Dodgers, it's I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: how closely you follow basketball, but this is essentially the

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant to Golden State move from well seven years

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Speaker 1: well join him. I hope for baseball's sake that they

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Speaker 1: don't get Wan Soto. There's another big free agent we're

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Speaker 1: going to touch on in just a minute, And honestly,

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Speaker 1: most of the big free agents we've listed potential landing spots.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers are going to be in on all of

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought that last year when they had just

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Speaker 1: So if it's the Dodgers, it's I mean, for a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. I thought that too, where a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's a first round pick regardless of

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Speaker 1: They're probably going to to just give him six hundred

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Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns unless we have anything else to add on Sodo.

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Speaker 1: So Corvin Burns had a fantastic season. Fifteen wins, one

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Speaker 1: Burns some potential landing spots again, the Mets, the Dodgers,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have more concerns about him based on how

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Speaker 1: In my early rankings, and again it's the calendar. Just

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Speaker 2: I felt like when it got to the playoffs that

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Speaker 1: We just saw Yamamoto get the biggest ever pitching contract

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the name value is going to push him

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Speaker 1: There's something to be said about those Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the left forearm neuritis never sounds good

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Speaker 2: I think to sign him, I wouldn't have too many concerns.

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Speaker 2: But I do enjoy the salary comps that were compared

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Speaker 1: I think I could see that. I wouldn't love it

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know one thing that I always talk

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yeah, I think he'll still get paid

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438
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Speaker 1: mentioned him already once or twice, and Pee Alonso is

439
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Speaker 1: next on our list. He had a pretty solid season

440
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Speaker 1: ninety one runs, eighty eight, Ribby's thirty four home runs

441
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Speaker 1: two thirty seven. Batting average wasn't so so great. I

442
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Speaker 1: think it was kind of a little bit lesser than

443
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Speaker 1: what we were expecting, and there wasn't. It's funny because

444
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Speaker 1: there was a contract offer that he had. I think

445
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Speaker 1: it was like seven years, one hundred and sixty some

446
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 1: odd million before this season. I don't know that he's

447
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Speaker 1: going to get that number now. Some of the potential

448
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 1: landing spots are the Mets, Seattle, the Yankees, even the

449
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Speaker 1: Nationals were listed in that article. What are your thoughts

450
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Speaker 1: on p Alonzo? Is he going to be able to

451
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Speaker 1: recoup what he was offered? I believe it was before

452
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Speaker 1: this season. Is there any real reason to be concerned

453
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Speaker 1: about his landing spot or his fantasy value going forward?

454
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Speaker 1: As far as you see it.

455
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Speaker 2: I'm not as concerned about him, but I don't know,

456
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Speaker 2: aside from being represented by Boris, I'm not sure if

457
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: he'll be able to get that back. Like I understand

458
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: wanting to test the market, and I think in terms

459
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Speaker 2: of power, bats and first basement, it's a little it's

460
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Speaker 2: he's kind of the one that's out there, if I

461
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Speaker 2: remember correctly, But so I feel like he's got that power.

462
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Speaker 2: His average is right where I expected it to be,

463
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Speaker 2: just because he was so low last year or and

464
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Speaker 2: kind of split the difference between the years before. But

465
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Speaker 2: I think he has forty home run potential pretty much everywhere. Obviously,

466
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Speaker 2: if he lands somewhere with a nice outfield like the Yankees,

467
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Speaker 2: then you've got it. The Mariners would be the worst

468
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Speaker 2: of the landing spots just from a power perspective, but

469
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have any issue. Like the way I always

470
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Speaker 2: look at him is you're drafting him for three categories,

471
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Speaker 2: and as long as you keep in mind you're drafting

472
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Speaker 2: him for three categories, then you probably won't be disappointed.

473
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Speaker 1: Seattle would not be something that I love from the

474
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Speaker 1: power perspective. I think he's strong enough to negate a

475
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Speaker 1: lot of that. But still, even if it would have

476
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Speaker 1: been maybe forty two home run somewhere else, it might

477
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Speaker 1: be thirty five, thirty six in Seattle. You're also looking

478
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Speaker 1: at a team that struggled, even just outside of the ballpark.

479
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: Their lineup was atrocious last season. Julio struggled, everybody struggled.

480
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: Now you got Randy Rosorina in town, which does help out.

481
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Speaker 1: But he's also a guy who struggled last season. Wouldn't

482
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Speaker 1: be my favorite choice. I mean, hell, I'm a Blue

483
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Speaker 1: Jay fan, I'm an Al East fan. If he goes

484
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Speaker 1: to the Yankees, I'm probably gonna cry a little bit,

485
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Speaker 1: especially if Sodo goes back there. But in terms of

486
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Speaker 1: the potential landing spots, that might be the most favorable.

487
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Speaker 1: If you're getting him right behind Judge and Soto, you

488
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Speaker 1: might be looking at one hundred and twenty hundred and

489
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Speaker 1: thirty RBI. Well, the Yankee spend to that extent hasn't

490
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Speaker 1: been their mo in recent years. But when a guy

491
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Speaker 1: like Alonzo's on the market, if you can get him,

492
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Speaker 1: that would be probably pretty wise for the Yankees to

493
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Speaker 1: at least pursue that.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see them kind of checking in on him. Again,

495
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Speaker 2: I don't. I would guess he's going to go obviously

496
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Speaker 2: where the most money in the most years are, and

497
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Speaker 2: independent of anything else, the Yankee I feel like, yeah,

498
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Speaker 2: if they throw the whole thing at Soto. I don't

499
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Speaker 2: think they would be willing to throw another whole thing

500
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Speaker 2: at at Alonzo, which, like you said, as an Alias fan,

501
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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone wants that because that would be

502
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 2: kind of a frightening lineup as well, kind of that

503
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Speaker 2: foursome that you don't want to deal with. But from

504
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Speaker 2: a fantasy perspective, you know, either New York I think

505
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: is a good landing spot for him.

506
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, he's shown that he could be productive in

507
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Speaker 1: the Mets lineup. There's a familiarity aspect there. Yeah, either

508
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Speaker 1: one of the New York lineups would probably be the

509
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Speaker 1: best estimation. I've seen kind of a mixed bag of

510
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Speaker 1: responses to him potentially going back to New York from

511
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Speaker 1: the Mets people I follow on Twitter, they seem to

512
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Speaker 1: be kind of they don't want to pay him for

513
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Speaker 1: his declining years in his thirties. But at the same time,

514
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Speaker 1: you know, thirty five home runs, Hunter and RBI don't

515
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Speaker 1: just grow on trees, and as a team that would

516
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Speaker 1: really really need to fill that hole if he were

517
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Speaker 1: to go somewhere else, or some potential other players on

518
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Speaker 1: this list we're going probably going to that could be

519
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Speaker 1: that person, but I think the Mets should should really

520
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: push the chips forward to try and get Pete Alonso back.

521
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: Alex Bregman is another guy here about what we were

522
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Speaker 1: expecting this season, maybe slightly less in terms of the

523
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Speaker 1: counting stats. Seventy nine runs, seventy five RBI, but still

524
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Speaker 1: had twenty six home runs. He still batted to sixty.

525
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Speaker 1: There's been some kind of cute quotes in the media

526
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Speaker 1: from Scott Boris the last couple of days, making some

527
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Speaker 1: jokes from some jokes about his clients with Bregman and

528
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Speaker 1: with Pete Alonzo. Now the potential landing spots Houston, the Yankees,

529
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Speaker 1: the Nationals have popped up a couple of times on

530
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Speaker 1: this list, Seattle, Detroit. I think he probably goes back

531
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Speaker 1: to Houston, but I don't have a great feel for

532
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Speaker 1: the market on Alex Bregman at this point. He probably

533
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Speaker 1: hasn't been exactly what people were expecting over the last

534
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Speaker 1: couple of seasons. He had that amazing MVP worthy year

535
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen I think it was, and then over

536
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: the last few years hasn't been bad by any means,

537
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Speaker 1: but hasn't really been an out standing player either. Where

538
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Speaker 1: are you on Bregman. Do you think he'll end up

539
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: going back to Houston or will he potentially go to

540
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Speaker 1: one of these other markets?

541
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Speaker 2: I think if I feel like, if Houston wants him,

542
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: they'll make a solid offer and he will have to

543
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: kind of decide if he wants to move on from them,

544
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 2: which I haven't seen anything that says that he wants to. However,

545
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: we also know that Houston has no problem letting free

546
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: agents walk no matter how long they've been in an organization,

547
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Speaker 2: and with Bregman mean thirty, I can kind of I

548
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: can see the Astros deciding they're going to get younger

549
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: and kind of build around Jordan and Tucker and start

550
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: over with a few people. So I feel like, I

551
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: don't know. I feel like the Nationals are an interesting

552
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: landing spot for him, The Tigers are an interesting landing

553
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Speaker 2: spot for him. I don't really have a strong desire

554
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Speaker 2: like to have him in fantasy just because I feel

555
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: like he's a I feel like he usually goes too

556
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: high for the production that he's giving you. But he's

557
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: also the type of player that will beat you, like

558
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: randomly every week that you play against him, and you'll

559
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: think why don't I draft Alex Bregman. So I find

560
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: him to be a very infuriating fantasy player sometimes obviously,

561
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: like if he goes to Detroit, that's not a hitters park.

562
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: If you go Seattle, the same thing. Staying in Houston

563
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: I think has the best fantasy impact other than again,

564
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: the Yankees, but that kind of goes without saying at

565
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: this point, if everybody lands with the Yankees, then that

566
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: is a boost for all of their value.

567
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the park, and then you know, especially if

568
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: Soto goes back there, then you just add around them

569
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: in that lineup. Anybody who gets added to that lineup

570
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: is looking pretty pretty damn interesting. In terms of Bregman,

571
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: there was I think it was Jose al Tuve or

572
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: some member of the Astros right when the season ended

573
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Speaker 1: that was making kind of a public plea to re

574
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Speaker 1: sign him. Forget if it was al Toovey, I think

575
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Speaker 1: it was al Tuve. There are I think he is

576
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: wanted by his teammates. They do want him back. However

577
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: much of an impact that has, I'm not sure, but

578
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: keeping your superstars happy he generally is a good thing.

579
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: If they're happy playing with Bregman, having him as their

580
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: third basement and still giving you decent production. There's a

581
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: good chance that they listen to their stars and bring

582
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: him back for fantasy. I always find that he gets

583
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: pushed up a little bit because of the perceived scarcity

584
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: at third base. All the position drives up. I got

585
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: to take somebody, and then Bregman ends up going same

586
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: thing with like Nolan Arnado the last couple of years,

587
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: he ends up going a little bit earlier than he

588
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: probably should. I don't think he should be a top

589
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: hundred pick at this point. If he's in Houston, he's

590
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: probably borderline. But I agree with you that he's kind

591
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: of a frustrating player to roster, especially in head to head,

592
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: because you do get weeks where it is okay, he

593
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: went one for seventeen, and then the next week he

594
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: goes nine for fifteen and hit three home runs. It's

595
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: like what what? What are we doing? So he is a

596
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: bit of a polarizing player for sure, especially as he

597
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: enters into his thirties. He's already in his thirties, I believe,

598
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: but you're not looking at amazing production going forward. But

599
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Speaker 1: I think, especially if he's back in Houston, you're still

600
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Speaker 1: getting solid third base production, and you know, there is

601
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Speaker 1: something to be said about the position not being super deep.

602
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Speaker 1: So I don't hate him as long as the price

603
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: is and get pushed up too too much, right yep.

604
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: And I think if he goes back to Houston, whose

605
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: price will probably remain pretty much where it needs to be.

606
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: If he goes to the Yankees, he'll get too expensive

607
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: in ten seconds or less. So yeah, it's I'm almost

608
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: always out on Bregman, but I don't begrudge people who

609
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: want that type of player in their lineup. And like

610
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: you said, third base it's a weird position. They felt

611
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: like last year it was deeper than what people thought

612
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: it was, and because you could find them out there

613
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: until all the injuries hit and then all of a

614
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: sudden it was you know, who has third base ability?

615
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: Is there a catcher that has it? Like I mean,

616
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: it got a little ugly for a while.

617
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be interesting to see what they do

618
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: with Jazz if he does go to New York, because

619
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Speaker 1: then they'd have to find out if they want to

620
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: put him back on the outfield or maybe stick them

621
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Speaker 1: back at second base or something. They need to do

622
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: some mixing and matching. If that were the case, but

623
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Speaker 1: it's one of those good problems that teams have. Should

624
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Speaker 1: they sign Alex Bregmant potentially, Let's talk Blake Snell, who

625
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: did have a bit of an abbreviated year, missed a

626
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Speaker 1: little bit of time at the beginning. He was a

627
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Speaker 1: late signing. I think it was I think spring training

628
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: had actually started before Blake Snell had put pen to

629
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Speaker 1: paper on a contract. But what he did was excellent.

630
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Speaker 1: He had a three twelve Vira, a one zero five

631
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Speaker 1: whip and a thirty five percent strikeout rate. It's Fanny Kelly.

632
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Speaker 1: If you look at his cy Young season, then you

633
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Speaker 1: look at this past year. He was actually better this

634
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: year in terms of a lot of those era estimators,

635
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: in terms of the command, in terms of a lot

636
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Speaker 1: of things. There was actually a step up from what

637
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: he did when he won his second cy Young the

638
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: previous season. Again, the landing spots stopped me. If you've

639
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: heard this one before. The Yankees, the Orioles, the Mets,

640
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: Atlanta and San Francisco are the probables here. Do you

641
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: think he'll go back to San Francisco? Is there a

642
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: chance that he goes somewhere else where? Are you at

643
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: on Blake Snell at this point.

644
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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, can we just take a moment

645
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: and get really excited that he pitched into the eighth

646
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Speaker 2: inneen for the first time ever in his career this year,

647
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Speaker 2: and I think he did it twice. Yeah, So if

648
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: he's not parlaying that into a bigger contract, then they're

649
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: just doing it wrong. But yeah, I mean, I guess

650
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: I see him going back to the Giants, so I

651
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: feel like it's that's such a friendly ballpark for him,

652
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: and like you said, he improved on so many of

653
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: his metrics that I think that he would see that

654
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: as a as a positive place to land. I do. However,

655
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: you know, again, he's going to follow the money wherever

656
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 2: that takes him. On the Orioles would be interesting, but

657
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 2: I can also see him on the braves. Those are

658
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: kind of the three that make the most sense to me.

659
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how long of a contract he's going

660
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: to get because of his track record being so up

661
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 2: and down and all over the place. I've seen some

662
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: that are like, let's you know in five six years.

663
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: I've seen some that are like, no way as anybody

664
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: going to go more than three. But you know, you

665
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: get a full season out of him, I think he

666
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: would be worth a pickup for pretty much anyone.

667
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: The thing with Blake's now the last couple of years

668
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: is the start of the season have been they've been awful,

669
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: and then he picks it up in the second half

670
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: and he's been just fantastic. Any concern from a fantasy

671
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: point of view about trusting him, maybe, especially if you're

672
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: looking at head to have leagues where maybe he turns

673
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: it around in August, but you might have lost your

674
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: playoff spot if you trusted him as your first starting pitcher.

675
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: You never know what the year is gonna bring. But

676
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: each of the last two seasons really poor starts where

677
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: people have even debated dropping him, and then he's turned

678
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: into a cy young worthy pitcher. Each had lost two seasons.

679
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: So how does that factor into you drafting him next

680
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: year for fantasy?

681
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: Well, I have a tendency to never draft Blake Snell,

682
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: and I know I said that about Bregman too, But

683
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: it's funny that we fell on both of those guys

684
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: so close together, because I hate rostering either one of

685
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: them for different reasons. If you can get him as

686
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: your sp two, I think that it's worth it if

687
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: you have a solid as people like, if you're gonna

688
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: if you're gonna do pocket aces as a strategy, Okay,

689
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: Like I mean I would still want a better race

690
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: for my second one, but if you want to get

691
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: to kind of higher octane guys, but you have one

692
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: that's much much more solid and much more reliable early

693
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: in the season, once you have a track record like

694
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: he does. Yeah, as long I mean, as long as

695
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: you draft him knowing that it's going to get ugly

696
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: and he's going to have some like nine walk starts

697
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: where you just don't understand what happened. But I would

698
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: be more willing to draft him if he goes back

699
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: to the Giants, I think, than almost anywhere else. So

700
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: that's that would that's going to influence my decision a lot.

701
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we can't forget about the injuries, the

702
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: year in year out inconsistencies. I only drafted him one

703
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: time last year, and I did I think eighteen leagues

704
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: and it was coming close to draft season. It was

705
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: like in March when he fell around or two because

706
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: he was unsigned, and I figured, okay, getting a bit

707
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: of a discount, I'll draft him. It did work out.

708
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: But I am in agreement with you that he's not

709
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: somebody that's generally a target for me. There just some

710
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: quote unquote safer options, although who is safe among starting

711
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: pitchers at this point you never know, but perceived safer

712
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: options that I can get in the similar kind of

713
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: range as Blake SNeW and I feel like what he

714
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: did in the second half is going to have him

715
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: a little bit out of my price range, probably depending

716
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: on landing spot, but as of now, I think he's

717
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: he's going to be a costant, a pretty penny come March,

718
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: come February March, whenever you guys are starting to get

719
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: into your drafts. Freddy Peralta is another guy who is

720
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: a little bit polarizing for me. He had a fine season.

721
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: It was nothing to flow you away though three sixty

722
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: eight Era one twenty one whip. He did reach two

723
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: hundred strikeouts, which is a big deal. Still had a

724
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: great strikeout rate. Now the Brewers have a team option.

725
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: I think it's twenty two million. I think they're probably

726
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: going to pick this one up. I haven't seen any

727
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: news since we started recording earlier today that they did

728
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: pick it up, but I think Kelly the likelihood is

729
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta ends up back in Milwaukee.

730
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, his team option is actually only eight million, so

731
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: I think for sure while headed back there. Yeah, because

732
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: on free agency he would he would make significantly more

733
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: than that. But he's kind of in the I include

734
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: him in the in the Blake Snell chat where when

735
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: he misses, he misses bad. But I don't mind him

736
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: as an SP two either, So he'll be back in Milwaukee.

737
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't mind that as a landing spot for him, so,

738
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: but yeah, I can't see them passing them up for

739
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: eight million.

740
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: I was looking at the yearly value of his contract

741
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: at this point, which had been twenty two so forgive

742
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: me there. Yeah, but I think Freddy Peralta is ninety

743
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: nine point nine percent chance to be pitching in a

744
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: Brewers jerrasey once again, although they do love to piss

745
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: off their pitchers. Corbyn Burns last year declined the option,

746
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: Devin Williams this year. I think it was over a

747
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: million bucks. Again, they do like to make some business

748
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: decisions that are not generally player friendly, But I do

749
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: think Freddy Perlta is pretty much a lock to go

750
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: back somebody who had one of the bigger surprise kind

751
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: of breakouts this year for me was Anthony Santander. Forty

752
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: four home runs, one hundred and two RBI. He scored

753
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: ninety one times. The batting average wasn't too pretty at

754
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: two thirty five, but you don't really care considering you

755
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: got forty four homers and one hundred and two. Riviis

756
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: probably going back to Baltimore if I had to place

757
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: money on it. But some of the other potential landing

758
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: spots are Washington, Cincinnati, Toronto, and Seattle. He goes to Cincinnati,

759
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: that might be a fifty home run season, Kelly, But

760
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: what are you thinking right now on Santander in terms

761
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: of landing spot and in terms of your interest level

762
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: heading into draft season?

763
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: You know, I ended up drafting him a lot of

764
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: places last year without a lot of interest in him.

765
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: I feel like he fell to me a fair amount,

766
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, he has like thirty homer possibility.

767
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: Like in my head, I was just like, okay, thirty

768
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: home runs and he's in a decent lineup, So popping

769
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: forty four was just that was just a bonus on

770
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: top of a bonus. But I see him going back

771
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: to Baltimore. But the fantasy player and me wants him

772
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: to go to Cincinnati really badly. So if he does that,

773
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: I would bump him up a fairmount just yeah, because

774
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: like you said, I think it would be worth around

775
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: probably six to seven more home runs.

776
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: So if you were to go to Seattle, though, I mean,

777
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: and that would not be my favorite thing. I think

778
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: in all likelihood it's probably Baltimore. But it is interesting

779
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: to see Washington. And again we're using some data from

780
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: the athletic and from MLB trade rumors, it seems like

781
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: Washington could be an interesting team this this winter in

782
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: terms of maybe picking off one or two big names.

783
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: Do you think this is just, you know, maybe some speculation.

784
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: Do you think there might actually be some some smoke

785
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: to the fire here.

786
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: I feel like in some ways the Baltimore players get

787
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: linked to Washington. I don't know if it's a geography thing,

788
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: but it seems like that's they get tossed in a

789
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: lot with the two teams. But I think Washington has

790
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: the ability, like if they decide that they're going to

791
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: not go all in, but if they're going to go

792
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: partially in starting like this year and hoping that some

793
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: development of the players that they've gotten through trades elsewhere

794
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: continues to development. I could see them going after him,

795
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: you know, he's thirty. But with hitters, I don't worry

796
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: about it quite so much as quickly anyway. So yeah,

797
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: I think the Nationals are a relevant team in his case,

798
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: but I think I think it'll be the Orioles so

799
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: not the Mariners.

800
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't love it unless the Mariners

801
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: do get a few pieces, and then you can think

802
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: they'll play off of each other. If they get Alonso

803
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: and Santander, adding into Julio and Randy Rosarana, you figure, Okay,

804
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: the ballpark factors will be offset by the talent in

805
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: the lineup. But I don't wish Seattle's ballpark upon anybody.

806
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: They're just unless you're a pitcher, of course, and then

807
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: it's like it's pitching Mecca. But I mean, in terms

808
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: of hitters, you can't really do too much in Seattle

809
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: unless you are just super super talented. With the way

810
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: that the factors have gone over the last couple of seasons, specifically,

811
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: last year was a dark year to roster Mariners hitters.

812
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk Willia Domas, who also had maybe not a

813
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: breakout year, because he's had seasons that could be called

814
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: breakout years in the past. But thirty two home runs,

815
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: he stole, twenty one bases, one hundred and twelve RBI

816
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: he hit two fifty one, which you'll absolutely take the Dodgers, Brewers, Braves.

817
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: I've even heard the Blue Jays potentially thrown into the

818
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: mix here as options. The Dodgers do seem to be

819
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: the team that has He just seemed to be linked

820
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: more to the Dodgers than any other team that I've

821
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: seen so far, and it does feel like that's the

822
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: way the wind is blowing that LEAs is going to

823
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: be in California next year.

824
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: Kelly, I agree with you. That's everything that I've read

825
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: about him kind of heads that direction, and yeah, he

826
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: would slot right in the left side of that in

827
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: field pretty easily. And you know, again with them, they

828
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: have all of the same problems where like where do

829
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: you want to play Mookie? I guess you can play

830
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: what seven spots and you bring Adamis in. It's like

831
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: his strikeout pros prowess is infuriating sometimes, but the amount

832
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: of pop you get from a guy with shortstop eligibility

833
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: in that situation. I like him in the National League.

834
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: If he stays with the Brewers, I'm good with that too.

835
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: But I think he'll be like you said, I think

836
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: he'll be on the West coast somewhere. Ironically, they haven't

837
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: been tied to him at all. But I did read

838
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: yesterday about the Padres how they might ironically need a

839
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: short step, even though like two years ago they had

840
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: like eight short steps on the roster. Are so I

841
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 2: wonder if they might come in as a dark horse,

842
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: depending on like what the market is shaping up for

843
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 2: Adamis to be. But I would guess Dodgers.

844
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: If I had to, Padres would be hilarious, like their

845
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: whole roster of shortstops Tatiast Merrill, Kim. I mean, I

846
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: think Machado was initially a short stop like everybody. Everybody

847
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: was once a short stop, and then they eventually have

848
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: a different, different place to play on the field. It

849
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: works out though, it tends to work out there. I mean,

850
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: look at Jackson Merrill. He moves off a shortstop and

851
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: then he puts up one of the one of the

852
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: best rookie seasons we've seen in a long time, so

853
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: good that he may even dethrone Paul Skins for the

854
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: Rookie the Year, but that's the show for another day.

855
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: Marcelo Zuna was also on our outline, but it looks

856
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: like his club auption is going to be picked up

857
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: if if it hasn't been already, I think they'd be

858
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: crazy not to take back a forty home run, three

859
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: hundred hitter with a one fifty four WRC. Plus he

860
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: was a player in a half last year. I'd imagine

861
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: he's going back to Atlantic.

862
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: Kelly, Yes, yeah, I think they've already exercised it, or

863
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: they will for sure. Yeah, So yeah, he'll be there,

864
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: and it makes sense like we said he was. He

865
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: was a in the draft this season, so next year

866
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: he'll the price will be much higher for him. But

867
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: he still has tons and tons of power.

868
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: So well, the utility only designation keep him off of

869
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: your teams or is that something that we just don't

870
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: need to worry about as much anymore, considering Ow Tawny

871
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: and Rooker and everybody else is going to be just

872
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: utility eligible. Is it something that you're going to factor

873
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: in a lot? No?

874
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: I Actually I've been writing the outfielder profiles and that

875
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: was one of the things I say is I'm like,

876
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: when you have a hitter like that, that's quote unquote

877
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: clogging your utility spot. Like let let him clog it.

878
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: It's fine, Like just pretend he's got second base, Like

879
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: it's just one part spot in your roster, and that's

880
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: just where they are. So you're not gonna you're not

881
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: gonna regret having them. Just don't draft too many of them.

882
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even draft two of them, depending on

883
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: you more some of them. Yeah, something you can just

884
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: start one and there's something to look out for. Even

885
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: with Brent Rooker, who I think he'll get outfield back

886
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: initially or eventually, but initially he's going to be utility

887
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: only depending on where you play because they different games

888
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: played thresholds, But just something to be aware of as

889
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: you're drafting your teams. If you draft Otani, then that

890
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: kind of that kind of takes care of the utility

891
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: spot for you.

892
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: Yep.

893
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: Christian Walker is another name that is headed to free agency.

894
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: Seventy two runs, twenty six homers, eighty four ribbies in

895
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: a two point fifty one batting average, not quite to

896
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: the same level as the past couple of seasons, but

897
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: still very very good production at a pretty weak first

898
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: base position. Diamondbacks should probably do what they can to

899
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: get him back, but I'm also saying the Astros, Yankees,

900
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: and Mets that are linked to him. What's your prediction

901
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: with Christian Walker? Is he going to be back in Arizona?

902
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: And what's your interest level?

903
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: I love Christian Walker. Every year I go on at

904
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: least two podcasts and talk about how no one drafts

905
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: him and everyone should. His oblique injury last year kind

906
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: of a little dent in that. But I think I

907
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: think he'll end up in Houston. The Diamondbacks will make

908
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: a push for him, but I think the Diamonbacks are

909
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: going to look a little bit harder at pitching in

910
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: free agency than so I can see him in Houston.

911
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: I've also seen him link to Seattle, but again, like

912
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: it's kind of those same teams where you know what

913
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: you and Seattle can use him, but if he goes

914
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: there again, you're just kind of in a weird like

915
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: hitter's graveyard. And so I'd much prefer that he is

916
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: in Houston and having him bat behind Tucker and Alvarez

917
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: would be that would be a really good landing spot

918
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: for him.

919
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: I think Houston would be the best, although Arizona's offense

920
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: last year was the best in baseball, so I don't

921
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: think it would be bad necessarily, But yeah, either one

922
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: of those two teams would probably be the preferred landing spot.

923
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: If he goes to the Mets, you'd figure that would

924
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: be a replacement for Pete Alonso, so they'll probably wait

925
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: for that domino to fall. And then the Yankees, of course,

926
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: who are in on probably everybody this offseason, as they

927
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: probably should be considering what happened to them this year

928
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: the World Series going the way it did. I think

929
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna not want to be embarrassed like that again,

930
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: and they have the money to spend, so we'll see

931
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: if they end up spending it. We had Cody Bellinger

932
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: on the sheet, but he did off back into his contract,

933
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: so no need to really talk about him much. Shane

934
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: Bieber is also on the list, just two starts. He

935
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: looked like the steel of draft season for the first

936
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and then Tommy John surgery, so I

937
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: don't think he'll be back until probably a couple months

938
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: into the season. But some potential landing spots Cleveland, the Dodgers,

939
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: the Rangers, who are in on every pitcher coming off

940
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: of injury. It seems at this point, what's your prediction

941
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: for Shane bieber Kelly? Where do you think he'll end

942
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: up at? What's your interest level heading in the next

943
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: year as well?

944
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 2: I don't have a ton of interest level unless he's

945
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: like again, the discount would have to be really high

946
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: because when he pitched it, like he said, he looked good.

947
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: But that's just a few different arm injuries. I think

948
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: for him that would scare me off. I can see

949
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: Cleveland going back after him, But like you said, the

950
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 2: Rangers have this very weird infatuation with with pitchers coming

951
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: off of injuries, and you would think that, you know,

952
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: the one that they most recently did would kind of

953
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: deter them from that, but they don't seem to care,

954
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: So I can see him landing in there too.

955
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: If I were to throw money, I'd say probably Cleveland,

956
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: but it's a bit of a toss up. Considering the

957
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: injury timeline, I think he'll probably miss the first like

958
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: two months of the season, although people are coming back

959
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: sooner and sooner. From Tommy John it seems like it

960
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: was fifteen sixteen months, and then it was thirteen fourteen,

961
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: and now it's just over a year, so you never know,

962
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: but he won't be ready to start the season. I

963
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: think that's something that we can be pretty assured of.

964
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of other free agents here, Kelly, and

965
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: we are pushing up against the clock. So I want

966
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: to throw it to you, is there anybody else on

967
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 1: this list, whether it's Jack Flaherty, Sean and Ayah Walker Buehler,

968
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: who else is somebody that you're gonna be keeping an

969
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: eye on over the next couple of weeks and months

970
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: as free agency really gets.

971
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: Going in earnest, I have a lot of I have

972
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: some weird interest in Bueller, and I also want to

973
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: am excited to see where tay Oscar Hernandez lands. I

974
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: think because he doesn't right you know, he doesn't havetion.

975
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: He he came out of not didn't come out of nowhere,

976
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: but he just got in the right lineup. And and

977
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: so Fernandez lands in another lineup like that, or goes

978
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: back to the Dodgers, like I feel like you got

979
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: to move him up the ways just because he seems

980
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 2: to he seems to play well, or with the team

981
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: around him, or he plays down if the team around

982
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: him is doing nothing, but always call him in the

983
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 2: home run call contest when he's facing a lefty and

984
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: and like I, like I said, I have a thing

985
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: with Walker Buehler. I just feel like he has so

986
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 2: much talent and he's not He just hasn't like put

987
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: it all together. And I'm not saying that I think

988
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: that he will put it all together, but I'm just

989
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: wondering if, like maybe, given how he performed in the

990
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: World Series, like maybe there's a little bit of a

991
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: renaissance coming. But I'm shocked that he's thirty, so I

992
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: would have put him. I think in my brain he'll

993
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: just always be like twenty three. So you know, so

994
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 2: that those are the two that I have the most interesting.

995
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: How about you, well, Buehler is I mean, what he

996
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: did in the playoffs was just so night and day

997
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: from what we've seen from him this year, you know,

998
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: a couple of Tommy John's no more sticky stuff. You

999
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: wonder if he'll ever fully get back to where he was.

1000
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: But I feel like we got that glimmer of hope

1001
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: in the playoffs that yes, old Walker Bueller still exists.

1002
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: He's not dead. He is still there, even though I

1003
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: would have never expected to see that kind of production

1004
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: from him. Again, I personally would have told you three

1005
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: weeks ago that he's cooked, he's done, there's nothing left there,

1006
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: but definitely some promise, And I wonder if that will

1007
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: really push him up draft boards because people just remember,

1008
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, what have you done for me lately? Is

1009
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 1: kind of the big thing in a lot of fantasy sports.

1010
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: Baseball is no different. People will remember those those outings

1011
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: over the final couple weeks of the season, and maybe

1012
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: he gets pushed up a little bit too high, but

1013
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: definitely got my interest back with him. Jack flaherty is

1014
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: the one that is super interesting to me because he's

1015
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 1: been around. I think he's pitched seven seasons in the majors,

1016
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: two of them great, five of them terrible, and he's

1017
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: coming off of the best one where if he'd stayed

1018
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: in the American League all year, Jack Flaarity's probably getting

1019
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: top five cy Young consideration, if not even higher. But

1020
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: do we trust him now, especially if he goes to

1021
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: another new team, which would be his fourth team in

1022
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: the span of what a year and a half, getting

1023
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: accustomed to a new environment, new coaches, et cetera, et cetera.

1024
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: Will he be able to recreate that magic that he

1025
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: had this past season. I'm hoping he goes back to

1026
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. But Jack Flaherty is somebody that I'm really

1027
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: interested in, and I'm not really even sure what to

1028
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: do with drafting him just and ranking him because skills wise,

1029
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: he's probably top fifteen or so, but he should probably

1030
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: be in the twenties, if not the thirties. Like, he's

1031
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: a really really polarizing player for me as we get

1032
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: into ranking and draft season for sure.

1033
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all I'll say about him is he has

1034
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: Minnesota twin written all over him in my opinion, so's

1035
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: that same sort of injury risk, but coming off a

1036
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: decent year, and they tend to know what to do

1037
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: with them right up until they get injured again. So

1038
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: I feel like Minnesota would be a pretty decent lens

1039
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: but for him.

1040
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: As well, Minnesota has really does some great things with

1041
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: pitching over the last couple of seasons. If we add

1042
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: him into that mix, you got him and Lopez and

1043
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: he got over and Joe Bryan, Like that is a

1044
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: formidable rotation. They have a really solid pen. You know,

1045
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: their lineup was actually surprisingly really good this year. I

1046
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: think there were top five or seven if you look

1047
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: at wOBA, WRC plus and things like that, So that

1048
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: would be a kind of a scary one. I thought

1049
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: the Twins were going to make some noise in the playoffs.

1050
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: It turns out that that didn't exactly happen. A yeah,

1051
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: a bit of a rough run over the last couple

1052
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: of weeks of the season, but I think there is

1053
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: definitely room for them to add a couple pieces and grow.

1054
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: And you know that division is not exactly fantastic, so

1055
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: I think they'll probably bounce back next season. But Kelly,

1056
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: it's been great to record with you. It's been a

1057
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: lot of fun breaking down these free agents. I want

1058
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: to give you just a chance, just let everybody know

1059
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: what you got going on. If there's any articles coming

1060
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: up to Plug or any other podcast, I'll let people

1061
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: know what you got going on.

1062
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm going to be a fair number of baseball

1063
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: podcasts in the off season, for sure, with different hosts

1064
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: different times. I think I'm doing like two a month

1065
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: at this point. Right now, I spend the vast majority

1066
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: of my time I'm in charge of the hockey betting

1067
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: model at betting pros. So that offer that you were

1068
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: talking about, We have a ton of stuff going on

1069
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: over there every day. And hockey is my favorite sport

1070
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: to bet on because not everyone does it, so the

1071
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: lines are a little bit better. But so that's my

1072
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: plug for that. But yeah, otherwise, baseball is my favorite sport.

1073
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: I will be around talking about it and getting in

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