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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number two Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. All right, let's buckle up here for

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Speaker 1: a sec. Five days from New Hampshire. What in the

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Speaker 1: world is going on in the Republican primary race. Also,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get the audio of this, but a little

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Speaker 1: bit of fun. Dean Phillips, who is the Minnesota Democrat congressman,

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Speaker 1: the only basic Democrat politician who was willing to challenge

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, has got a new ad out where he

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Speaker 1: calls Joe Biden Bigfoot, which is actually pretty funny because

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Speaker 1: his argument is Biden has never seen anywhere and doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any actual, any actual staying power on the campaign trail.

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Speaker 1: Let's play that for you because this is actually starting

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Speaker 1: to get a little bit of attention in New Hampshire. Remember,

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Speaker 1: you have to write in Joe Biden's name on the

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire ballot. So Dean Phillips is the only and

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Speaker 1: I think Mary Anne Williamson maybe maybe there's a couple

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Speaker 1: of other gadflies that are actually going to be on

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Speaker 1: this ballot for Democrats. But listen to this ad it's

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Speaker 1: very I thought it was pretty funny. But here's some

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Speaker 1: audio of it again. Dean Phillips, Democrat congressman, calls Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden bigfoot because nobody ever sees him and it seems

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Speaker 1: like he's in hiding.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm something of an expert on illusive creatures, so

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Speaker 2: I challenge myself to find President Biden in Hampshire during

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Speaker 2: this primary season. I thought I was good at hiding,

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Speaker 2: so I asked around, have you seen Joe? I mean,

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Speaker 2: how can you have tens of thousands of people looking

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Speaker 2: for you all the time and not one person finds you.

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Speaker 2: I've looked for him everywhere, even the Democratic primary debate.

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Speaker 2: No Joe, I started out, Okay, wonder I mean, has

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden even been here at all? Never did find

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Now some big money superpack is telling us

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Speaker 2: to vote for him. Why I'm write him in when

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Speaker 2: he's ridden us along?

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's pretty good ad, all right. And if you're

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Speaker 1: wondering there that is a bigfoot character. Who is the

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Speaker 1: who is sitting down doing the interview pointing out that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden has not bothered to come to New Hampshire

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Speaker 1: at all, and Buck. This is I think a kind

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Speaker 1: of a failure of the media in general to cover

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Speaker 1: the reason Biden didn't want Iowa New Hampshire to be

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Speaker 1: at the front of the Democrat primary calendar is because

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Speaker 1: Iowa and New Hampshire voters have rejected Joe Biden every

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Speaker 1: time they've had any experience with him at all. He's

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Speaker 1: never done well in either of those states. So he's

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Speaker 1: starting with South Carolina where the rig job is in effect.

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Speaker 1: But this ad I think is cutting through on some

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Speaker 1: level because it's true Biden is basically hiding.

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Speaker 3: Democrats in Iowa elected Pete Booted Judge who has become

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Speaker 3: a laughing stock as Transportation Secretary, over Joe Biden. I

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Speaker 3: just think it's worth it. They elected Bernie Sanders in

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Speaker 3: New Hampshire, or chose Bernie Sanders, I should say, over

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden. Joe Biden has run. This is also why

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Speaker 3: and people say, oh, this Republican or that Republican's career

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Speaker 3: is finished. If you have the will to go on,

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Speaker 3: you can raise money and you're shameless, you can. You

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Speaker 3: always have a second act in politics. Joe Biden has

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Speaker 3: run for president three times, and he finally on the

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Speaker 3: third time managed to, as we all know, pull off

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Speaker 3: something that was definitely not for the best interest of

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Speaker 3: the country but for the best interests of the Biden

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Speaker 3: crime family. Clay this guy though running the ad. What's

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Speaker 3: the point you know what I mean? Phillips, Dean Phillips.

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Speaker 3: It feels I think that Bill Ackman, the hedge fund

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Speaker 3: guy who's gotten a lot of attention recently because he

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Speaker 3: called for the Harvard He's a Harvard alumni. He called

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Speaker 3: for the Harvard president to step down over the plagiarism.

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Speaker 3: Then Business Insider went after his wife for plagiarism, just

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Speaker 3: showing everybody how the left wing apparatus really works. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you want to speak the truth, you want to speak

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Speaker 3: you want to speak out on something, We'll go after

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Speaker 3: your family members. I think he said he's giving Dean

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Speaker 3: Phillips money. I mean give him a million dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: well for him, that's you know, in the couch cushions.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, correct. That to me is what's the point.

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Speaker 1: I don't I think see, I think the idea is

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Speaker 1: to embarrass Biden among some groups by showing, by the way,

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Speaker 1: let me.

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Speaker 3: Hit you can we agree with something Biden is incapable

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Speaker 3: of embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: Incapable of embarrassment. You mentioned New Hampshire. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: look it up. This is what happened in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty New Hampshire primary. Super highly contested, everybody's throwing punches.

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Speaker 1: Bernie got twenty five point six percent of the vote.

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Speaker 1: Pete got twenty four point three And let me just

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Speaker 1: say again on Mayor Pete, he almost won Iowa.

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Speaker 3: And New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: He will ever be the Democrat nominee because black guys

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Speaker 1: won't vote for him, and nobody will even say his

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Speaker 1: political career is over because nobody who is black, especially

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Speaker 1: black men, are gonna vote for a gay, white guy

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Speaker 1: to be the Democrat nominee. And so that's a James

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Speaker 1: Cliburn just looked at it and said, yeah, this dude's

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Speaker 1: dead on arrival. Amy klobashar remember herbuck nineteen point seven percent,

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Speaker 1: Like this just kind of like a path, a little

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Speaker 1: trip down memory lamberyline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren nine point two percent. Joe Biden only got

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Speaker 1: eight point four percent of the vote. He barely beat

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Speaker 1: Tom Steyer, Tulsei Gabbard, and Andrew Yang in the New

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Speaker 1: Hampshire primary, he came in. What is the math on

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Speaker 1: that fifth overall? And then he just destroyed the primary

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Speaker 1: because they didn't like him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but see, this is a reminder for everybody that

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Speaker 3: is so so early in all of this, and we

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Speaker 3: have recent history to show that to us. Joe Biden's

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Speaker 3: numbers are terrible. Right now, They've changed the primary system

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Speaker 3: around so that he can focus in on South Send Nominee.

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Speaker 3: And look, this guy has managed to be president for

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Speaker 3: three going on now his fourth year, which as awful

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Speaker 3: as it has been, we should remind ourselves they were

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Speaker 3: able to get Joe Biden into the White House. Whether

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Speaker 3: you think, I don't care how you think they did it.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't mean it doesn't matter. But I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: no matter what, he's been the president for three years. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we can all live in that reality. If they can

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Speaker 3: do that with Joe Biden, we shouldn't underestimate what they're

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Speaker 3: able to pull off now. And that's why I just

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Speaker 3: feel like everyone has to everyone in the GOP, every conservative,

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Speaker 3: everyone who is saying in this country has to stay frosty.

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Speaker 3: I know it looks so good right now visa Vive Biden,

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Speaker 3: but Clay. We are up against a ruthless and determined

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Speaker 3: opposition with these Democrats, and you see it with the

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Speaker 3: fact that they're even willing to elevate Joe Biden in

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Speaker 3: the first place. So this Dean Phillips guy, Look, the

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Speaker 3: Bigfoot ad is clever. I agree, just say, who cares though?

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Who's gonna see this and go?

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Speaker 3: You know what, Joe Biden isn't showing up a lot.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like I think it's not I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's a bad sort of character to steal for

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Speaker 1: the Republicans for the campaign, like why not run it back?

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Speaker 1: I mean the fact that Joe Biden is in hiding

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Speaker 1: the big Foot angle. You know, we've been talking about

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Speaker 1: the basement for a while. Now, that's the that's the

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Speaker 1: Democrat side. I wanted to give credit because I do

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Speaker 1: think that's a clever ad and it is cutting through

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Speaker 1: and it made us mention Dean Phillips. I saw that

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Speaker 1: it was a lead on the five. They were talking

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Speaker 1: about it yesterday, and so I do give him credit.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the the I hit this. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the show. Ron DeSantis has decided he's basically not

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Speaker 1: competing in South Carolina in New Hampshire and now is

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Speaker 1: gonna beat Nicky Haley there and then Nicky Haley's gonna

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Speaker 1: have to drop out. I don't see any logic to

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Speaker 1: characterize or defend. And look, we open up phone lines

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Speaker 1: because sometimes people out there say, oh, you're missing this

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Speaker 1: key point. What am I missing? On the Ron DeSantis campaign?

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Speaker 1: At this point, you and I both love him as

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Speaker 1: a governor. We think that he did fabulous work during COVID.

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Speaker 1: I would if I live you live in Florida, I

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Speaker 1: would vote for him for governor for as many years

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Speaker 3: I know he's term limited at I feel fortunate that

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Speaker 3: he's going to continue to be the governor of the

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Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time in Florida as well.

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Speaker 1: You and I couldn't be any bigger fans of Ron

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Speaker 1: DeSantis and the governor job that he did during COVID.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the board, though. Let's try to play

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Speaker 1: chess here. You lose by thirty in Iowa, you then

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Speaker 1: drop out of effectively New Hampshire, where you're polling around

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Speaker 1: five points, so you're gonna lose by thirty plus there again,

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Speaker 1: and then you relocate now your campaign to South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Like what you're asking, what's the pathway?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: What actually, what's the motivation forget even the pathway? What's

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Speaker 3: the motivation? Make it make sense logically to me? I

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Speaker 3: still have to vote and everything else. Okay, fine, What

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Speaker 3: benefit does it have for Ronda scientists to get blown

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Speaker 3: out in a whole range of states in the early

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Speaker 3: part of the primary. I don't know. I don't really

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Speaker 3: ten percent, let the people vote totally. I mean right,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna vote anyway. I don't mean that people should

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Speaker 3: have the right to build the primary, but I'm just saying,

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Speaker 3: totally get it. Let's see where the chips fall. But

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Speaker 3: it's looking like a blowout, and does anyone think that's

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Speaker 3: going to change between now and when these states actually

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Speaker 3: have have their elections. So to me, as somebody who

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Speaker 3: and push good policies and are you know. I like

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Speaker 3: us to have a deep bench. I want the red

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Speaker 3: state versus Blue state phenomenon, including under a continuation of

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Speaker 3: now hoping for. I want that phenomenon to continue. So

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Speaker 3: I like to see Republican governor succeed. I like to

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Speaker 3: see their brands growing. And we brought it up before

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Speaker 3: Ted Cruz and Donald Trump had a bruising and really

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Speaker 3: nasty primary. We can say yes, And then Ted was like,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to go back to being

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Speaker 3: the Senator from Texas and pushing for constitutional and limited

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Speaker 3: government policy, and I'm going to be an ally of

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Speaker 3: a big boy about it. And that's what he did.

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Speaker 3: So I think that attitude of what's best for the

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Speaker 3: country should be the way that we all approach This

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Speaker 3: is really the should be the only way, right, So

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Speaker 3: I don't, but I don't. I don't see how Ron's

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Speaker 3: staying in it beyond beyond what's feasible. Is in the

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Speaker 3: best interests of the country. He's entitled to do it, obviously,

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Speaker 3: but I don't see where the benefit is.

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Speaker 1: I just I can't follow even what the logic of

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Speaker 1: the candidacy is. Now, Like you could agree or disagree

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Speaker 1: with Nicky Haley's chances. I understand her logic. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire she wants to rap, or I'm gonna lose

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Speaker 1: close second, and then two weeks later, I'm gonna beat

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump in South Carolina. I don't buy the logic,

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Speaker 3: We got an extra long tease here for uh, the

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Speaker 1: I suppose you Buck, when we had him on, I

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Speaker 3: It's super rare for a congressional hearing to mean anything,

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Speaker 5: But you're You're right, this this all looks I think

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Speaker 3: To this show. We appreciate everybody there.

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Speaker 1: This is I know you would probably second this as

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Speaker 1: much as might need to be taking place on a

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Speaker 1: federal level. And I appreciate again you guys shining the

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Speaker 1: spotlight on this state of Georgia needs to be investigating

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Speaker 1: this Prosecutor Fanny Willis and everybody else involved in this investigation.

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Speaker 3: In your opinion, as well.

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Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, and I thought it was great.

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Speaker 5: I'm like I said, call your show and you were

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Speaker 5: talking about this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And I do believe that Governor Kemp in the Trade

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Speaker 5: General now are beginning to do that, which I think

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Speaker 5: is important.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: But there have been all kinds of problems with every

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Speaker 5: single one of these. We actually did a hearing in

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Speaker 5: Manhattan wan Alvin Bradfast his indictment of President Twamp and

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Speaker 5: now you see what's going on here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: And of course we got all kinds.

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Speaker 5: Of things we can say about Jack Smith in his

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Speaker 5: indictment in Miami and the one here.

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Speaker 4: See, so it's all a problem.

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Speaker 5: But again, to go back to the first topic, President

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Speaker 4: Just about every every time he gives his speech.

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Speaker 5: I think he's got a lot of great lines, but

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Speaker 5: he always says, they're coming after me because I'm fighting

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Speaker 5: for you. Well, when we were with him and Iowa,

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Speaker 5: he actually changed the line. He said they're coming after

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Speaker 5: my freedom because I'm fighting for yours.

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Speaker 4: And this is true. People can see it.

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Speaker 5: Foreign diamonds to state two, federal they all created. The

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Speaker 5: people can see it because Americans have common sense and

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Speaker 5: I think that's a huge motivating factor why people came

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Speaker 5: out in such a big way in iowand I think

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Speaker 5: we're going to continue to do it in this in

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Speaker 5: this election cycle.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio and Congressman I

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Speaker 3: see here this letter from the Committee on the Judiciary

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Speaker 3: and Select Committee on the Weaponization of Federal Government that

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Speaker 3: is looking into whether and you tweeted about this, whether

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Speaker 3: the federal government flag terms like MAGA and trump to

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Speaker 3: financial institutions, if Americans can pleated transactions using those terms.

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Speaker 3: Also if you bought a religious text like a Bible

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Speaker 3: or shopped at bass pro job. What the heck is

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Speaker 3: going on here?

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Speaker 5: We've learned in the last year about all the censorship,

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Speaker 5: big tech, big government, big academia, you know, big media,

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Speaker 5: all working the center Americans. Now we know it's big government,

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Speaker 5: big corporation's, big banks working to financially surveil Americans.

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Speaker 4: And it's frightening because and.

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Speaker 5: We're just on the front end of this, but you've

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Speaker 5: got banks that are at the urging of the federal

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Speaker 5: government searching their their customers, their transactions using key terms

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Speaker 5: and the terms where as you just describe about their

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Speaker 5: you know, Trump maga, but I think more point it's

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Speaker 5: like did they buy something at Cabella's, did they did

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Speaker 5: they buy a firearm at Bass Pro Shop or whatever?

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Speaker 5: And in this idea that religious texts, I mean, if

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Speaker 5: you buy a Bible and a gun and somehow you're

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Speaker 5: on the domestic violent extremist watch list. And when you

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Speaker 5: read through some of the documents and the initial documents

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Speaker 5: we've gotten, it sounds exactly like that memorandum from the

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Speaker 5: Richmond Field office that we learned about a little over

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Speaker 5: a year ago, where the Richmond Field Office of the

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Speaker 5: FBI was describing pro life Catholics as radical extremes. It

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Speaker 5: reads exactly like that garbage. And so now we know

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Speaker 5: it's not just limited to censory it's like financial surveillance.

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Speaker 5: And so we're gonna we're little we're on the front

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Speaker 5: end of this, but we're going to dig into this

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Speaker 5: because this is this is just as scary as the

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Speaker 5: censorship effort that we that we've uncovered.

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Speaker 4: Over the last year.

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Speaker 3: We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go into actual legislation that has taking

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Speaker 1: place right now on Capitol Hill. Buck and I started

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Speaker 1: security being coupled with Ukraine, which I think is for

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Speaker 1: many people out there dead on arrival in terms of

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Speaker 1: the way people are responding. But also the new speaker,

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Speaker 1: we're hearing a lot of pressure potentially about what might

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Speaker 1: happen to him over the negotiations on by bills going forward.

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Speaker 1: From your perspective, and you're better plugged in than almost

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Speaker 1: anybody probably in the entire country, what should we know

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Speaker 1: about what's going on on Capitol Hill right now?

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Speaker 3: And where is this going?

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Speaker 5: Well, there are three big issues I think here in

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Speaker 5: the next month or so that it's going to be

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Speaker 5: dealt with on Capitol Hill. Actually four, but count the

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Speaker 5: epeachment in the car. But that's that's part of the

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Speaker 5: oversight effort. But when it comes to legislation, you've got

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Speaker 5: the appropriation thing we got on the government and how

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Speaker 5: that'll all, how that all plays out. You got the

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Speaker 5: Pizer renewal, which is huge. So there has to be

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Speaker 5: reforms there to protect American security, particularly in light of

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Speaker 5: what we've we we just talked about with censorship and

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Speaker 5: with this financial surveillance. And then of of course it's

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Speaker 5: just Ukraine border issue, and you know, we're trying to

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Speaker 5: navigate all those I do think this this build that

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Speaker 5: was sort of leaked out that was coming from the

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Speaker 5: Senate is a non starter. Speaker Johnson has indicated he's

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Speaker 5: not going to go for what that. You know that

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Speaker 5: the language that leaked out there. But yeah, the American

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Speaker 5: people understand, let's secure our border before we even think

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Speaker 5: about doing anything more for Ukraine. I voted against most

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Speaker 5: of the money for Ukraine's I'm not not keen on

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Speaker 5: that because people still can't tell.

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Speaker 4: Me what the objective is, what's our goal? What's our objective?

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Speaker 5: Normally, when when you're going to fund something, you got

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Speaker 5: what are we trying to We're trying to move him

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Speaker 5: out of the Downboss region of Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: We're trying to get him out of crime you whichy've

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Speaker 4: been which they've had nowt for ten years. What's the objective?

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Speaker 5: So I sort of think we need to know that

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Speaker 5: before you continue to fund Ukraine. And then of course

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Speaker 5: people are focused on our border of first. So I

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Speaker 5: think what's been talking about in the Senate is basically

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Speaker 5: a non starter. In the House, Speaker Johnson is indicated

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Speaker 5: so and I think that's where the American people are

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Speaker 5: and it's the right position.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Speaker Johnson is safe? We saw what

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Speaker 1: happened with Kevin McCarthy and the attempt to find a

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Speaker 1: new speaker. The margin, now you know better than me,

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Speaker 1: is down to two or three votes, with with illnesses

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost never been closer. Is he safe

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Speaker 1: in your mind?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think Mike's he's a good man and he's a

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Speaker 5: good friend. I thought it was a complete mistake to

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Speaker 5: would be a mistake to do that to Speaker Johnson.

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Speaker 5: We gotta we got to navigate these through. We've got

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Speaker 5: to get reform on FIZA, We've got to continue to

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Speaker 5: do our oversight. We've got to continue to finish this

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Speaker 5: impeachment inquiry and then make a decision whether we're going.

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Speaker 4: To move forward with articles on the President the United States.

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Speaker 4: We got to get those done.

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Speaker 5: But I don't see how it helps us or how

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Speaker 5: we help the American people by by changing the speakers again.

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Speaker 5: So let's let's focus on getting our job done. Let's

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Speaker 5: focus on our oversight and let's get let's get to

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Speaker 5: November where President Trump is going to win this election

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Speaker 5: president and really make a change of things. I think

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Speaker 5: that's that's in the best interests of the American people,

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Speaker 5: and that's that's what I'm pushing for.

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Speaker 3: Congress and Jim Jordan. Always good to have you on

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Speaker 3: with us, sir, Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys. Keep up the good work.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We are going to

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Speaker 3: take some calls here. Also want to remind you that

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Speaker 3: Please become a v IP you can hang with us

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Speaker 3: for all three hours on video as well. And today

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Speaker 3: I decided to go with an orange like a traffic

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Speaker 3: my fashion sense probably should have prove. Although Clay Clay

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Speaker 3: looks he's wearing a T shirt wrapping the OutKick brand,

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Speaker 3: I will say, but the T shirt looks like it's

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Speaker 1: Laura is not pleased, as I'm sure many married women

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Speaker 3: Guy knows that there is nothing you cannot buy the

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Speaker 3: softness and comfort of a perfectly worn in T shirt.

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Speaker 3: Right before the T shirt starts to get holes, You've

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Speaker 3: got like a six to twelve month window where you're old,

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Speaker 3: worn washed, a thousand times T shirt is at the

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Speaker 3: absolute perfect softness. It feels like it is basically an

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Speaker 3: Because I'm all about comfort, all about comfort, comfortable feet,

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Speaker 3: comfortable T shirt. That's what I'm here for. We have

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Speaker 3: Rick in Bigelow, Minnesota. What's going on? Rick?

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, I was just gonna say, Buck, you're pretty

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Speaker 6: fired up the first hour.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 6: You're channeling your inner rush.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: But the reason I called was I don't know if

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Speaker 6: you guys listen to Glenn before you, but he had

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Speaker 6: a poll this morning that said if Trump is indicted,

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Speaker 6: twenty of the people wouldn't vote for him, and if

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Speaker 6: that happens, then we're cooked. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's this is the the number one question we've

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Speaker 1: been doing. You've been talking about this poll go ahead,

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Speaker 1: is whether or not if Trump is convicted. Now there's

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Speaker 1: uncertainty as to which trials may be able to be completed.

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Speaker 1: The kick is again, this is why we said yesterday,

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Speaker 1: this is the devious master plan argument that you can

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Speaker 1: make of the Democrats, because I think it's quite clear

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Speaker 1: they want Trump to be the nominee. People out there

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Speaker 1: can scream and holler and argue against it. They want

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Speaker 1: their collective brain trust Trump to be the nominee because

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Speaker 1: they think Biden can beat him, and they believe if

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Speaker 1: they get a conviction, and it's not a coincidence that

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Speaker 1: these trials. You notice they didn't make the trial last year.

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Speaker 1: They didn't make the trial where they guaranteed could have

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Speaker 1: had it completed before the actual primary voting started. Think

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Speaker 1: about where this is slotted right now, literally the day

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Speaker 1: before Super Tuesday. So Trump is going to have the

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Speaker 1: nomination locked up before we even know what the consequences

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Speaker 1: of the criminal trials are going to be. And their

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Speaker 1: plan is that if they get a conviction on Trump,

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Speaker 1: that will render him unelectable and they will win in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Now they can be wrong, but that

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Speaker 1: is certainly their plan. And the question is will people

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Speaker 1: actually change their vote based on what happens in one

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Speaker 1: of these trials.

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Speaker 3: We have known about this, the data has shown this.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about it for months. If the Democrats

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Speaker 3: pull this off, Republicans deserve to lose because we are fools.

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Speaker 3: I've said it before, I'll say it again. They will

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Speaker 3: have outmaneuvered us, outplayed us. They will have double enveloped,

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Speaker 3: they will have gotten on our flanks, and they will

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Speaker 3: be annihilating us in November. If this plan works, as

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Speaker 3: I think it will. I think it's a giant if,

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Speaker 3: and I think right now the Democrats are the ones

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Speaker 3: who are much more concerned. Catherine and Floria. What's going on, Catherine, guys, I.

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Speaker 7: Want to tell you two reasons why. I think it's

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Speaker 7: too early for just Santas to get out. As you

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Speaker 7: just described, we need to have a number two, right

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Speaker 7: if Trump does implode, maybe it's not likely, but we

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Speaker 7: need a number two. I think Ron de Santis is

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Speaker 7: in a much better position to claim that he is

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Speaker 7: the number two if he beats Nicky Haley in South Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Okay, if he gets out now.

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Speaker 7: So that's one reason, and the second one is.

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Speaker 4: Just claim.

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Speaker 7: You were just talking about this, but I have always

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Speaker 7: thought that Democrats want to run against Donald Trump. So

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Speaker 7: because that Democrats could vote in Iowa in the Iowa primary,

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Speaker 7: I think probably some of them voted for Trump, some

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Speaker 7: of them voted for Nicky Haley. So I think Trump's

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Speaker 7: numbers could also be overstated in the Iowa primary. Really

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Speaker 7: hope Rond de Santas doesn't get out.

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Speaker 4: Those those are two reasons.

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Speaker 3: Those are really good to the thing. I think. I

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Speaker 3: think that's a good point by her.

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Speaker 1: To the extent that if if DeSantis could beat Nicky

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Speaker 1: Haley in South Carolina in the event that this you know,

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Speaker 1: meteor strike happens and Trump is somehow knocked out of

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Speaker 1: the race, maybe that helps DeSantis the problem here bucking.

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Speaker 1: You may agree or disagree. I actually think if this

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Speaker 1: went to the grand poohbahs in the in the party

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Speaker 1: right like basically the convention years, because I think that's

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Speaker 1: probably the way it would have to go.

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Speaker 3: On some level, I think DeSantis would beat Nicki Haley.

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Speaker 1: Because I think that there would be way more support

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Speaker 1: for Nicki Haley now in the elite circles that that

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley is running in and getting her support, it

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Speaker 1: would be different.

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Speaker 3: But I think the sort of the rock rig the

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Speaker 3: Trump base vote. If the Trump base had to pick

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Speaker 3: between DeSantis and Haley, the Trump vote is going to Santis. Correct.

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Speaker 1: So my thought is, though I think that Haley probably

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Speaker 1: beats DeSantis in South Carolina, I think she would come

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Speaker 1: in second. I think Trump would win comfortably. I guess

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Speaker 1: we'll see. You know, yes, that's an arcade.

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Speaker 3: You go for that two point conversion and you make it,

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Speaker 3: you're a genius. You miss it and people criticize it.

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Speaker 1: Look at you, with all the sports knowledge of lepping

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Speaker 1: dropping dimes left and right here on two.

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Speaker 3: Points, not one like from the kick, the two points

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Speaker 3: from the scoring.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Hey, VP, we teased it. We

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Speaker 1: got some audio. Tucker Carlson. I think he's the best pick.

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Speaker 1: I've said it. I'm not wavering on it. If Trump

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Speaker 1: came to me and said, Clay, who would you take,

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Speaker 1: I would say Tucker. We'll see who Buck would say

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Speaker 1: right now, and we'll tell you who. Don Junior said

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Speaker 1: it makes sense next