1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960
Speaker 1: Zack Low wants the NBA Finals to return to the

2
00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,400
Speaker 1: two three, two four mat No, what you think, Joe?

3
00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,560
Speaker 2: What you think, Brandon? That's a tough one man, look,

4
00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,799
Speaker 2: because if you going there and win on somebody at

5
00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,480
Speaker 2: home court, just like Indiana did in Game one, and

6
00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,880
Speaker 2: and you got three games at home, man, a lot

7
00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,119
Speaker 2: of teams ain't coming back from that.

8
00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,120
Speaker 1: Uh right, they did that because they used to fly commercial,

9
00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,239
Speaker 1: so they want to make sure they would not.

10
00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,760
Speaker 3: Everybody got your own private plane.

11
00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,200
Speaker 1: So you get two games, yo, just stay there, you

12
00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,120
Speaker 1: stay there in the city, blah blah blah, and then

13
00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,000
Speaker 1: when you pack it up, you come on back.

14
00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,760
Speaker 3: But now with everybody got their own flight the bread

15
00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:37,919
Speaker 3: and Joe, now what I.

16
00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,840
Speaker 4: Mean, why does he want that? That'll make no sense

17
00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,920
Speaker 4: to me, because if you are if you want all

18
00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,280
Speaker 4: these games, you put yourself on the line. You put

19
00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,920
Speaker 4: yourself in a position where you want those first two

20
00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,120
Speaker 4: games at home, yeah, and the other places home and

21
00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:53,400
Speaker 4: then that.

22
00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,760
Speaker 3: Dennis back and forth.

23
00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,040
Speaker 4: I start feeling that because, as you said, what during

24
00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,480
Speaker 4: the eighties, it was hard because we had to fly commercial.

25
00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,440
Speaker 4: We had to go from LA to Boston plan the

26
00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,200
Speaker 4: Lakers at that time, I remember Jack Nicholson being the

27
00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,800
Speaker 4: first class whips and you know, we just kind of

28
00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,920
Speaker 4: hanging out, had a good time. Them flights were difficult, man,

29
00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,080
Speaker 4: they were Joe.

30
00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,280
Speaker 3: They didn't want to give you no damn food, I

31
00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,240
Speaker 3: mean stepping up that.

32
00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,720
Speaker 4: And on top of that you have people damn smoking

33
00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,080
Speaker 4: the cigarettes right beside you.

34
00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,440
Speaker 3: So don't don't shany you don't know nothing about that.

35
00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,119
Speaker 1: You want no no, But I've heard that you guys

36
00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,760
Speaker 1: that regular people, well were regular people on your flight

37
00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:32,840
Speaker 1: for us.

38
00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:39,279
Speaker 4: Sy besides you asking you ask you yes, yeah, because

39
00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,480
Speaker 4: we were going through the airport.

40
00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,360
Speaker 3: We'll come to the airport with no security. Here was

41
00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,640
Speaker 3: the security right here.

42
00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,720
Speaker 4: He run up on somebody out there, but those security

43
00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,760
Speaker 4: and none of all this other stuff. No being protected

44
00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,560
Speaker 4: by the NBA. No, it was a different league then,

45
00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,720
Speaker 4: and you had to protect yourself. You had to be

46
00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,800
Speaker 4: more of an adult. He had to really focus on

47
00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,280
Speaker 4: what you did because I'm telling you what the eighties,

48
00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,760
Speaker 4: the women in the eighties, they were presidents.

49
00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:16,359
Speaker 3: Man. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, christ be good.

50
00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,360
Speaker 1: We had breaking news today. Kevin Durant has been traded

51
00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,519
Speaker 1: to the Rockets. The Sons traded KD to the Rockets

52
00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,079
Speaker 1: for Jalen Green Dylan Brooks, the number ten pick in

53
00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,880
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five draft, five second round picks. KD

54
00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,640
Speaker 1: was thatt fanatics fest when someone captured the moment when

55
00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,400
Speaker 1: KD and his agent Rich Climbing found out let's take

56
00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,000
Speaker 1: a look at this video, guys.

57
00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,760
Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised by this.

58
00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,840
Speaker 1: There was only a handful of teams that had maybe

59
00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,680
Speaker 1: some players, and to pick the compensation, the Suns messed

60
00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,040
Speaker 1: this up.

61
00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,840
Speaker 3: Look. I like Matt Ishmat. I met him several times.

62
00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,200
Speaker 1: He's a great guy, but he gave up too much

63
00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,160
Speaker 1: to get Kevin Durant and he was never going to

64
00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,440
Speaker 1: reciprocate that because he's two years older than when you

65
00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,680
Speaker 1: got it. So now you're not gonna be able what

66
00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,760
Speaker 1: you gave up to get him, You're not gonna be

67
00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,680
Speaker 1: able to get that back.

68
00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,160
Speaker 3: That we know you want him gone.

69
00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,600
Speaker 1: He knows you want him gone, and everybody else knows

70
00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,480
Speaker 1: you want him gone.

71
00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,000
Speaker 3: And so oh yo plus Miami.

72
00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,080
Speaker 1: They turned down Miami's package because I told you they

73
00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,080
Speaker 1: didn't have enough to get They didn't have anything him

74
00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,880
Speaker 1: hadcares hobbit, hot smell what.

75
00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,679
Speaker 5: Hey, I have a question though some some of you

76
00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,400
Speaker 5: just said something. You just said, right, Yes, Kevin dur

77
00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,520
Speaker 5: read one of prolific scores of all time.

78
00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,640
Speaker 3: You said Isa did too much to get him, gave

79
00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:42,360
Speaker 3: up too much to get it.

80
00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,080
Speaker 5: Yes, but because the player he is, that's why he

81
00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,200
Speaker 5: did what he had to do to actually get a

82
00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,200
Speaker 5: player that magnitude. Now, the reason you got him was

83
00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,480
Speaker 5: your hope. What you put an investment into him. You

84
00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,520
Speaker 5: hope it turned out and came to fruition.

85
00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:55,680
Speaker 3: It just didn't.

86
00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,000
Speaker 5: And normally when you buy a car, where you buy

87
00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,600
Speaker 5: a car off the car line, right, and as soon

88
00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,680
Speaker 5: as you drive it off, what does it do but appreciate? Well,

89
00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,360
Speaker 5: so you understand when you get a player of that

90
00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,640
Speaker 5: magnitude as great as he is, a great as he is,

91
00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:07,520
Speaker 5: and he's.

92
00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,760
Speaker 3: Older now you're still not gonna get back what you

93
00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:10,360
Speaker 3: bought for him.

94
00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think the thingy y'all is that when

95
00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,799
Speaker 1: you look at what you look, you got KD and book.

96
00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,720
Speaker 1: Did you really need Bradley Beal? Did you really need

97
00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,200
Speaker 1: Bradley Bill Or do I need to secure my do

98
00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,200
Speaker 1: I need to get them for my bench? So now

99
00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,040
Speaker 1: I take trade more draft capital and give up more players.

100
00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,080
Speaker 1: So now they don't have a first round picking until

101
00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:39,440
Speaker 1: twenty thirty one. You don't realize that's twenty twenty five, right, Well,

102
00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,479
Speaker 1: and that's why I.

103
00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,599
Speaker 3: Think it's a good trade for Phoenix stuff.

104
00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,280
Speaker 4: If you're talking about Phoenix is gonna be able to

105
00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,160
Speaker 4: do some of these things and possibly get a pig

106
00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,120
Speaker 4: and all this gaint Kevin Durant to me, goes there.

107
00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,400
Speaker 4: I think instantly, to me, he makes them more quiable

108
00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,880
Speaker 4: when I think about having a score with them, young

109
00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:57,920
Speaker 4: them young bulls.

110
00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,680
Speaker 3: He got playing with the locker there. Give I make

111
00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,240
Speaker 3: that trade off that I love, I like him better

112
00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,960
Speaker 3: and I like him better than Houston. That I did.

113
00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,320
Speaker 3: And then then in Phoenix, I agree, you're you're not

114
00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,040
Speaker 3: picking out.

115
00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,760
Speaker 1: You got Goon, you got Shing Goon, you got Armin Thompson,

116
00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,200
Speaker 1: you re signed Van Fleet.

117
00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,760
Speaker 3: You you were able to keep Jabari Smith Jr.

118
00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,760
Speaker 1: So now and plus the problem that Houston had, they

119
00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,840
Speaker 1: had the second best record in the in the West,

120
00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,320
Speaker 1: fifty two wins, but they didn't have a guy that

121
00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,280
Speaker 1: you can give the ball to Layton the ball game

122
00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,360
Speaker 1: and go get your bucket.

123
00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,280
Speaker 3: You now have that. Yeah, how long. How long? How long?

124
00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,000
Speaker 3: Do Joe? I know, I know you ain't so choke.

125
00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,840
Speaker 4: Look it to be about thirty six, thirty seven, thirty

126
00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,880
Speaker 4: seventh telling and you're gonna let And I love k D,

127
00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,680
Speaker 4: but you're you're putting them in a position.

128
00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,599
Speaker 3: Where you're going to have him carry your team late

129
00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,680
Speaker 3: to go get buckets.

130
00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,800
Speaker 2: I think I think he's gonna be I think he's

131
00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,240
Speaker 2: naturally gonna do that laden games. I love the fact

132
00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,760
Speaker 2: that he's with a bunch of young cats, like some

133
00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,280
Speaker 2: Ryan and young Kats, who's gonna work hard, play hard,

134
00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,279
Speaker 2: and he ain't.

135
00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,400
Speaker 3: Gonna have to. I don't think he's gonna have to

136
00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,000
Speaker 3: do a lot of heavy lifting. Guys. They got some

137
00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,359
Speaker 3: guys who can play over there, you know what I mean.

138
00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,320
Speaker 2: They got some guys gonna come into their own obviously,

139
00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,680
Speaker 2: they gonna play through Shing Goon And like you said,

140
00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm glad they kept Jabari Smith for another tall, long,

141
00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,120
Speaker 2: long guy who can shoot the ball, who can post up,

142
00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,800
Speaker 2: who can play multiple positions, and uh led by Van Fleet.

143
00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,120
Speaker 2: I think they have a great team over there, and

144
00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,600
Speaker 2: I think KD can put him over the hump. I

145
00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,520
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna be rigorous on him as far

146
00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,240
Speaker 2: as you know, uh him trying to carry that team.

147
00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,080
Speaker 3: I think collectively they're gonna do a great job.

148
00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:33,320
Speaker 6: Now.

149
00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,880
Speaker 2: Naturally, he's gonna be the cream of the crop when

150
00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,680
Speaker 2: he comes to scoring the basketball because he does it

151
00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,440
Speaker 2: so well and it comes so easy to him.

152
00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,960
Speaker 1: I mean, and plus, you got three guys six chep Better,

153
00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,920
Speaker 1: you got six eleven. You got six eleven KD you

154
00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,080
Speaker 1: got six eleven. Shin Good, you got six ten. Jabari Parker,

155
00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,800
Speaker 1: you got in Thompson at six to seven. You got

156
00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,040
Speaker 1: vad Fleet that can run the I like this, I

157
00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,240
Speaker 1: like I like, like I said, I like KD here

158
00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,440
Speaker 1: more than I liked them in Phoenix because all you

159
00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,600
Speaker 1: had was offense. They didn't have rebounding, they didn't have

160
00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,080
Speaker 1: rent protecting, they didn't they didn't have great depth. Because

161
00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,880
Speaker 1: think about what you gave up to get it. You

162
00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,320
Speaker 1: gave up your best defender in Michael Bridges. You gave

163
00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,800
Speaker 1: up a young Cam Johnson, you gave up what three

164
00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,080
Speaker 1: first round draft picks. That's an awful lot to give

165
00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,400
Speaker 1: them for a guy. And now and now you go

166
00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,320
Speaker 1: trade for Bradley Bill, which weakens you even more. As

167
00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,040
Speaker 1: far as draft, compensation and depth. For you, bitch, these

168
00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,200
Speaker 1: teams that played in the NBA Finals, what do they

169
00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,239
Speaker 1: have depth?

170
00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:35,720
Speaker 3: Depth?

171
00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,880
Speaker 2: Now, they might not be as good as the Big

172
00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,800
Speaker 2: three for Phoenix, but Phoenix had once you got once

173
00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,280
Speaker 2: you got booked and Katie out of the game. Now

174
00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,720
Speaker 2: he look, my question is what is Phoenix gonna look

175
00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,200
Speaker 2: like with Devin Booker, Jalen Green and Bradley Bill.

176
00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,880
Speaker 3: I mean them three are pretty much of the same guy,

177
00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I said that when they

178
00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:56,680
Speaker 3: got I said that when they.

179
00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,760
Speaker 4: Got whiteout White Joe, one of the things could happen.

180
00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,160
Speaker 4: And I've been hearing this that there might be a

181
00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,720
Speaker 4: possibility of Boston making moves. What's gonna happen? Or you're

182
00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,840
Speaker 4: gonna keep corzincas here. You have a big hole over

183
00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,800
Speaker 4: there in Phoenix right now. Can you go out and

184
00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,200
Speaker 4: get one of those guys or Boston and make and

185
00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,280
Speaker 4: get that pick or want to get that pick up

186
00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,440
Speaker 4: for maybe for zingis to put him in that position.

187
00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,680
Speaker 4: You know, Joe, that once you get traded to a

188
00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,800
Speaker 4: team doesn't necessarily mean you need to stop chap. You know,

189
00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,880
Speaker 4: your bags don't need to be unpacked. You need to

190
00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,199
Speaker 4: keep it back back because you might be moving on

191
00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,199
Speaker 4: in the new NBA.

192
00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah.

193
00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,520
Speaker 2: Rocket fans don't seem to be happy with the KD trade.

194
00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,120
Speaker 2: One tweeted, it happened today was my last day as

195
00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,600
Speaker 2: a Rocket fan. I wish the worst and the absolute

196
00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,920
Speaker 2: worst on this franchise.

197
00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,360
Speaker 1: Trading a twenty three year old superstar for a washed

198
00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,840
Speaker 1: forty y old in genually the worst thing you could

199
00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,920
Speaker 1: ever do. I hope Katie retires next season and that

200
00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,120
Speaker 1: the franchise can ply crumbles.

201
00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,000
Speaker 3: Damn KD.

202
00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,920
Speaker 1: KD also spoke to Kay Adams today and said Phoenix

203
00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,760
Speaker 1: wanted him gone. Let's take a listen to what Kadie had.

204
00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,079
Speaker 3: To say last one for you.

205
00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,360
Speaker 4: A lot of heartbroken Sons fans right now, what would

206
00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,600
Speaker 4: you like to say that's not true?

207
00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,719
Speaker 3: No, literally heartbroken Sons fan right over there.

208
00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,800
Speaker 6: I just I just saw, like, yeah, that mean they

209
00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,920
Speaker 6: wanted me to go. So it's like, I'm glad we

210
00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,480
Speaker 6: both you know, they got what they wanted, what I wanted,

211
00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,480
Speaker 6: so we can move on and good luck to them

212
00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,240
Speaker 6: going forward. And I always remember my time there, but

213
00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,200
Speaker 6: we're own something else.

214
00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:36,240
Speaker 3: Hey.

215
00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,120
Speaker 2: I don't see nothing wrong with what he said because

216
00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,800
Speaker 2: it wasn't It wasn't him who came to them asking

217
00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,360
Speaker 2: and looking for a trade. He found out they were

218
00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,640
Speaker 2: trying to trade him. So as athletes, we know when

219
00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,240
Speaker 2: you it's basically saying you don't want us, Okay, it's

220
00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,480
Speaker 2: somebody out there who will take me. It's somebody out

221
00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,160
Speaker 2: out there who do want me. And he was able

222
00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,839
Speaker 2: to give him a few teams that he wanted to

223
00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,400
Speaker 2: go play with. So give a Sun's credit for even

224
00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,599
Speaker 2: trading him to Houston, Texas, to Texas because that was

225
00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:05,920
Speaker 2: one of.

226
00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,040
Speaker 3: The stops that he wanted to go.

227
00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,560
Speaker 1: Well, he knew the Suns, excuse me, the Rockets, the Spurs,

228
00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,920
Speaker 1: Uh no, yeah, the Rockets, the Spurs Brooklyn were really

229
00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,080
Speaker 1: the only the handful of team that had the draft

230
00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,480
Speaker 1: capital to go get it.

231
00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,520
Speaker 3: So he had no choice. I mean he he couldn't

232
00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,520
Speaker 3: go to Miami. Come Miami, don't have anything to halt

233
00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,000
Speaker 3: per for him.

234
00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,439
Speaker 1: Your two best players are untouchable Tyler, he wrote, and

235
00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,640
Speaker 1: bam and you see the package himy hot care Junior

236
00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,280
Speaker 1: Hobbitch hot Smith.

237
00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,640
Speaker 3: It's like absolutely not absolutely.

238
00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,080
Speaker 4: Dude, dude, what did what did we think that? Because

239
00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,440
Speaker 4: they had to make that move, how they were offensively. Indeed,

240
00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,439
Speaker 4: the only person of the book that you're going to

241
00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,480
Speaker 4: be anything more on that team was kated. So in

242
00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,920
Speaker 4: his case, they had to make that move. They had

243
00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,400
Speaker 4: to go out and say, dude, you you can go on.

244
00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,360
Speaker 4: And here's the thing that me and Joe love about

245
00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,480
Speaker 4: this to whet They go, oh, I know to a

246
00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,800
Speaker 4: damn state that they ain't got no damn state income.

247
00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,120
Speaker 3: How about that? How about that?

248
00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,679
Speaker 1: There was a back and forth Boogie Cousins a few

249
00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,840
Speaker 1: days ago regarding the report the sons had multiple fist

250
00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,679
Speaker 1: fights in the locker room. Kevin Durrad says, I have

251
00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,320
Speaker 1: to contest this ninety four footer. This some bull drive

252
00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,680
Speaker 1: to throw on us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were trashed

253
00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,240
Speaker 1: this year, ha haha. But we never got close to this.

254
00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:31,800
Speaker 3: Never.

255
00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,959
Speaker 1: The Phoenix Sun reportedly had multiple fist fights in the

256
00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,920
Speaker 1: locker room her Boogie cousins. The bookie says the source

257
00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,599
Speaker 1: was one of your teammates killers. I ain't referencing you,

258
00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,760
Speaker 1: referring to you, save that is for the other homies.

259
00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,880
Speaker 5: Anytime the a a Joe Bread, anytime something like that

260
00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,360
Speaker 5: get out, you know, it always it always comes from

261
00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,360
Speaker 5: from one of the players.

262
00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,959
Speaker 3: It comes from locker room always. That's the only that's

263
00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,120
Speaker 3: the only time I hate my stuff. I hate stuff

264
00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,440
Speaker 3: like that happened too. Man, you know, I hate when dude,

265
00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,920
Speaker 3: I hope when dudes beat chatty patty.

266
00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,839
Speaker 5: When something goes on the locker room, it's supposed to

267
00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,840
Speaker 5: stay right there, supposed to stay right there.

268
00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,240
Speaker 3: God God be pillow talking.

269
00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,360
Speaker 5: And okay, if it's fight, man, everybody fight, who don't fight?

270
00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,480
Speaker 5: It happens in training camp. Did y'all fight in training camp?

271
00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,240
Speaker 3: Yep? You know, I mean it happens all what never

272
00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,920
Speaker 3: happened in the locker room and stayed in the locker room.

273
00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,480
Speaker 3: You know, if you didn't cap, if they ain't.

274
00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,920
Speaker 4: Cat Oh, it doesn't No, it doesn't. H it doesn't

275
00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,720
Speaker 4: stay know what I'm saying. I know you're but here's

276
00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,679
Speaker 4: what happened. Does you're saying right now?

277
00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,959
Speaker 3: It's pillow talk. You go tell your wife something, You

278
00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,800
Speaker 3: go tell your girl. You don't know how those stories go.

279
00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,920
Speaker 4: You tell her, she tells somebody else and linless all

280
00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,960
Speaker 4: is going in the woods. So a lot of gums

281
00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,280
Speaker 4: what we have in the NBA, our wives and girlfriends,

282
00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,839
Speaker 4: and now it's moms who who have a lot of

283
00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,880
Speaker 4: ship going on because they have they have amount of power. Now, Joe,

284
00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,240
Speaker 4: it's not like back in the day. Back in the day,

285
00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,959
Speaker 4: girlfriends were quiet. They said nothing about no damn basket.

286
00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,400
Speaker 4: They talked about everything else, but not about basketball. And

287
00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,000
Speaker 4: now they think they're blending.

288
00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,920
Speaker 3: The damn game. I'm like, really, you don't play it.

289
00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,320
Speaker 3: I didn't see you on the other side doing anything.

290
00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,320
Speaker 3: I didn't.

291
00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,720
Speaker 1: Reports say the Sons will look to reroute Jalen Green

292
00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,000
Speaker 1: to another team.

293
00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,440
Speaker 3: I can see that. That makes sense.

294
00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,000
Speaker 5: I think, huh, hold on, I'm tripping. Now you trade

295
00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,280
Speaker 5: KD for Jalen Green. Now you want to ship Jaen

296
00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,400
Speaker 5: Green somewhere else? And then I see reports they also

297
00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,080
Speaker 5: about a buyof with Brandy Bill.

298
00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,400
Speaker 3: What the hell going on?

299
00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,600
Speaker 1: Because, oh, Joe, brandy Z, Brandley Bill and Lebron are

300
00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,040
Speaker 1: one of the two players, two players that have no trade.

301
00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,480
Speaker 1: So you can't move Brandley Bill where he doesn't want

302
00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,839
Speaker 1: to go. So the best and it's like, you know what,

303
00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,720
Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and bite this bullet, get up

304
00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,880
Speaker 1: off this and move in a different direction.

305
00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,560
Speaker 3: So how would Bradley beal look down here, mammy, since

306
00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,439
Speaker 3: he is a prolific scorer. He is a scorer. He

307
00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,520
Speaker 3: don get eighty ninety percent of his money. He can

308
00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,120
Speaker 3: look good wherever he choose to go.

309
00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,000
Speaker 7: Come on, hey, let me let me to me, Let

310
00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,800
Speaker 7: me let me take you man trying to get free

311
00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,680
Speaker 7: in Miami. Hey, well listen, we can use a score

312
00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,640
Speaker 7: like that. Now, look at what he did on the Wizards,

313
00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,880
Speaker 7: and look what happened. There's too many people touching the

314
00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:30,240
Speaker 7: guy there.

315
00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,600
Speaker 2: It don't It don't take nothing to be a good

316
00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,600
Speaker 2: score on a bad team. You're talking about you talking

317
00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,920
Speaker 2: about No, I'm saying, it doesn't take anything.

318
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,240
Speaker 3: Bread you know this about team.

319
00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,440
Speaker 1: It don't take much to be a top not scorer

320
00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,440
Speaker 1: because who cares you getting yards beat out anyway?

321
00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,520
Speaker 3: So don't know about that.

322
00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,800
Speaker 4: That's that's the one where they'll say I said that

323
00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,440
Speaker 4: one time to coach Patino. One time I was talking

324
00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,800
Speaker 4: about Paul and I was talking about inch one and

325
00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,960
Speaker 4: that's one that would beat the out over themselves.

326
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,320
Speaker 3: And I was I was one of the reporters.

327
00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,800
Speaker 4: I said, so Paul and Antoine, you know they got

328
00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,320
Speaker 4: their numbers tonight, coach, and he turned to me out.

329
00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,720
Speaker 4: I was just embarrassed. I've ever been, he said, turning

330
00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,440
Speaker 4: to me, he said, the numbers are to loosers. I

331
00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,120
Speaker 4: don't give a shit what about them scoring no baskets all.

332
00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,720
Speaker 4: So you're right in the NBA, on a bad team,

333
00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,640
Speaker 4: you can look really good scoring the basketball because you're

334
00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,960
Speaker 4: the only thing they have. But when you plug that

335
00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,600
Speaker 4: into a good team, do you get wins because of that?

336
00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,160
Speaker 4: And you can see what having with Bradley Field. He

337
00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:35,000
Speaker 4: leaves Washington and goes to everybody said, oh that they're

338
00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,800
Speaker 4: they're gonna be in them because in court. He goes

339
00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,960
Speaker 4: now to Phoenix and he ain't shooting that way no more.

340
00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,680
Speaker 4: He ain't getting them. He ain't getting what you say,

341
00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,720
Speaker 4: Joe back and then he getting touched like that, ain't gonna.

342
00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,520
Speaker 2: Get down because you don't. You don't get to take

343
00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,440
Speaker 2: all them bad shots. You don't get to come out

344
00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,400
Speaker 2: and say, you know what, I'm gonna get me twenty

345
00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,120
Speaker 2: five thirty shots tonight, no matter what.

346
00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,840
Speaker 1: On a good team with other good players, it's not

347
00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,680
Speaker 1: like that, especially when you have multiple good players on

348
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,240
Speaker 1: said teams. Now, maybe if he goes if it could

349
00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,920
Speaker 1: be a situation like okay, see j Dubbs and shape

350
00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,360
Speaker 1: gonna get the Lion's share of the shots. Like tonight,

351
00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,240
Speaker 1: Shae was eight of twenty seven j double seven or twenty.

352
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,920
Speaker 1: Now they got forty seven of the eighty seven shots.

353
00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,800
Speaker 1: Two guys took over half the shots. Okay, but now

354
00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,440
Speaker 1: you put Bradley Beal, you put it with KD and Book,

355
00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,480
Speaker 1: ain't enough bad shots.

356
00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,960
Speaker 3: To go around. Yeah, they're gonna be looking at you crazy.

357
00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,040
Speaker 1: You come down taking bad shots, some of the bad

358
00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,840
Speaker 1: shots that you were able to take and get away

359
00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:34,560
Speaker 1: with when you.

360
00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,720
Speaker 3: Were with the Wizards. I agree.

361
00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,600
Speaker 2: When you're playing with other great players, man, you have

362
00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,320
Speaker 2: to try to find a way to be efficient. I

363
00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,760
Speaker 2: take you'all, guys back to two thousand and five, two

364
00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,600
Speaker 2: thousand and four, when I was playing with the Phoenix.

365
00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,480
Speaker 3: Sun Nash was the MVP.

366
00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,200
Speaker 4: You had a.

367
00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,880
Speaker 3: Mars Stott, Myer was a Premier All Star shun Man.

368
00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,040
Speaker 2: It was a Premier All Star, and as your fourth option,

369
00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,720
Speaker 2: which was me, I wanted to be efficient.

370
00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:00,720
Speaker 3: I shot.

371
00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,359
Speaker 2: I shot forty eight percent from the three, and every

372
00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,040
Speaker 2: time I took a shot, I wanted to I wanted

373
00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,480
Speaker 2: to make it count because I know I was gonna

374
00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,119
Speaker 2: get many of them.

375
00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,000
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I wanted to I did.

376
00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,280
Speaker 3: I knew Listen, I knew the ones that I did

377
00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,400
Speaker 3: get bread. I had to be damn that your brother

378
00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,119
Speaker 3: make it inefficient, hear me. So I did what I

379
00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:21,680
Speaker 3: had to do that.

380
00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I only got a chance to play on

381
00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,760
Speaker 2: that with them guys or Nash for one year, and

382
00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,640
Speaker 2: I thought we had a special, special team, but unfortunately

383
00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,320
Speaker 2: we got some new ownership that came in and you know,

384
00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,280
Speaker 2: thought otherwise.

385
00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,080
Speaker 4: But Joe, that made it, That made it possible for

386
00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,520
Speaker 4: you to go to another team though, and highlighted what

387
00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,080
Speaker 4: you were able to do on that particular team with

388
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000
Speaker 4: not a lot of shots. And I think that's why

389
00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,800
Speaker 4: you were able to go someplace else. And all of

390
00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,879
Speaker 4: a sudden, you know, you get the ice soaked Joe thing.

391
00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,280
Speaker 2: But look, it goes back to what UNC said and

392
00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,200
Speaker 2: I got when I got to Atlanta. My first couple

393
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,720
Speaker 2: of years, I'm averaging twenty twenty five, twenty six a game.

394
00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,920
Speaker 3: But hell if cause we can the noose believe beat

395
00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,520
Speaker 3: up out Hey, Hey Joe. And when you when you

396
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:07,600
Speaker 3: were in Phoenix.

397
00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,560
Speaker 2: Started out with the man, he was uh way before

398
00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,080
Speaker 2: his time. Oh Joe, the boy was so wrong when

399
00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,840
Speaker 2: he came he came in straight out of high school.

400
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,560
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, he came in. Man, I'm talking about

401
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,359
Speaker 2: just running through cats. He was going through you and

402
00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,280
Speaker 2: wasn't going around you.

403
00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,080
Speaker 3: He was going through you.

404
00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,760
Speaker 2: I'm talking about I seen him go ahead to head

405
00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 2: with Tim Duncan, Kevin Chris Webber.

406
00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,720
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the elaps. Yeah.

407
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,840
Speaker 2: That boy was special. Man, he's special. Oh that well,

408
00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,600
Speaker 2: that's your problem. That's Lake well that's all you all

409
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:46,680
Speaker 2: about is Lake well l Order, Lake Welles, Florida. Ain't

410
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,919
Speaker 2: in Lake wells Ford, Florida.

411
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that must be. You mean Lakeland, Lakeland, I think

412
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,679
Speaker 3: because he always about him ROYD Jones, all this, all

413
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,640
Speaker 3: this do Oh it's k ok okay, okay, okay, okay, Yeah,

414
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,399
Speaker 3: that the road right. How do all these athletes come

415
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 3: out of there? Flora? Oh it's the water, baby, It

416
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 3: ain't nothing but the water. You know. Listen, we we

417
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 3: produce some different down here, We produce some different that.

418
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,640
Speaker 2: Weather we look at where the look at the best

419
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 2: athletes they come out of what warm weather? California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana.

420
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 2: I mean, because you got you got like ideal you

421
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,880
Speaker 2: got ideal climate and you know us, we like warm weather.

422
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 3: We'll like the cold.

423
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 1: Like we like warm weather. And for the most part,

424
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 1: you can do a lot of things a lot a

425
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 1: lot longer.

426
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,479
Speaker 2: Yes, so you know, you get warm weather a lot longer,

427
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 2: and you don't get those you know, those those long

428
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 2: winners in short summers, you get long summers.

429
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 3: But if you go look at that, look at the

430
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 3: foot look at basketball.

431
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 1: Let's just take basketball, uh foot Spacely football ain't even close.

432
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,439
Speaker 1: All the football playing from the outside California, Texas losing

433
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 1: out of Georgia, Florida, Florida South County and stuff like that.

434
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 3: But I think that's what it has to do.

435
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 1: It has to do with if you go back and

436
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 1: look at it, look at where most of the athletes

437
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 1: come from.

438
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 4: Damn, I was from North Carolina. I'm sorry, come on,

439
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 4: you can look back. Y'all got a fergy.

440
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,360
Speaker 3: In North Carolina.

441
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,199
Speaker 4: Might have the greatest basketball a lot of basketball players

442
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 4: ever put together.

443
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 3: I'm more than Chicago. Oh hell yeah, I'm taking Jordan

444
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 3: Jordan Worsey from.

445
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 2: Where where got a few Well, you hey, it used

446
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: to be New York, you know, you New York where

447
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 2: the heart.

448
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 4: Doue Dominique words from North Carolina, Buck Williams, Dominique, James Worthy,

449
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 4: that sleepy floor, that's a that's a ton of guys.

450
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 4: You don't even talk about. Bob mcindo, one of the

451
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 4: greatest of all time, Blaze for he's from Greensboro.

452
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: I mean, there was so many great players, David Thompson

453
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 3: that people won't even talk about it anymore. He was

454
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 3: before Jeorde. He was, damn it. I tell you what.

455
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: I was guarding the one time Joey walk and I

456
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 3: was swippling.

457
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 4: I was going back and forth and somebody said live

458
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm guarding pretty good.

459
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 3: And then I trail around that Look, I tell you what.

460
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 3: I can tell you what size shoot he wore because

461
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 3: his feet should he walks out of thirteen. That's all

462
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 3: I saw. Pick it up.

463
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: According to Sports Illustrated, Roba Linca shouldn't see his sees

464
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: his job as secure moving forward. The report says, quote

465
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: either way, Polinka shouldn't feel super secure in his position

466
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: moving forward. He also shouldn't necessarily be looking over his shoulder.

467
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: He needs to have a good offseason this summer, though.

468
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 3: All they gotta do. All they gotta do is do

469
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: the same thing with Listen. I'm sure you hit that

470
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 3: he had the rumblings. You know what you need, sir.

471
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 5: Lebron has said, I'm sure Lupa has said it. Getting

472
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 5: me a goddamn big so we can compete.

473
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: That's it, get me a five. What they gonna get

474
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: the rest of the who they gonna get.

475
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: There's a trade proposal, Bailey Bassett Caesar Lakers trade away

476
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves for twenty twenty three Defensive Player of the

477
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: Year triple j Jared Jackson Jr. So the Grizzlies will

478
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: receive Austin Reeves. Don't connect Maxi Kleeber for Jared hold up,

479
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: you said.

480
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 3: Hell no, I'm like you.

481
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 4: Look, Jared Jackson, Sarah Jackson was the beast man that

482
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 4: there was a beast.

483
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 3: You think I'm giving them up for what what you

484
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: just say?

485
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 4: The bad nipples that you just talked about, But there

486
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: you're talking about Austin Reeds.

487
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: Hey, look, I don't really know what what man you're doing.

488
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: Try to stack the damn deck. Don't give me that

489
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: kind of crap. Man. If they they get rid of

490
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: jan Jackson Jr. They definitely getting rid of John that

491
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 3: Jo's gone yeah.

492
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean if you get rid of him, Ben a cornerstone,

493
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 2: that's your corner piece of big Man. You get rid

494
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: of him, I mean I would always want to keep

495
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: him in joh together. So if you get rid of him,

496
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: then maybe Ji is on the move somewhere.

497
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: John, you know, how do you want one time? Who

498
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: did you say that we're gonna give up? I gotta

499
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: get it this. I need to write this down. Would

500
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: you say? Uh, Austin Reeves with Ave.

501
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: Maxic Maxic Kleeber the twenty thirty one person white guy.

502
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: Okay, give me want more? You get that's all we got.

503
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: I can't go with that. We just hifted the roster.

504
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 4: We just if you are, if you're that team, you

505
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 4: cannot take an all star. The guys you just named

506
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 4: those aren't all stars. They're pretty good players, some of them,

507
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 4: but don't them connect just he just came in. Well,

508
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 4: I like what, I like what you talk about. Who

509
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 4: you're talking about Austin Reeves, he's a he's a pretty

510
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 4: good player. But Joe, I'm not making that deal.

511
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: Hell no, if you mean if you Meshis, you're not

512
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: making it. But we don't know what Memphis got up

513
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: their sleeve. Yeah, hey, hey all de pears on, what if?

514
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: What is Memphis trying to do because they just took

515
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: they just got fourth first round draft picks for Desmond Bane.

516
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so are they looking to go back? They look

517
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: at the rebuild, start this thing all over here. You're

518
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: trying to say this no other, Paul de Saul. Is

519
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 4: that what you're trying to say? Memphis is making another Laker?

520
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: I know you smile, Yeah on.

521
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: Your damn this.

522
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 4: Then that's how they wanted to look. That's how they

523
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 4: wanted that championship with Kobe. Now they stole one then

524
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 4: by making that trade. So don't give them in this

525
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,239
Speaker 4: craple by getting a great defender like that, we're bagging up.

526
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry that doesn't work.

527
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: But bread, you know what, Jeannie Buss and Robel Lincoln

528
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: Bank of Austin reeves, that's they're diving in the rough.

529
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: They discovered him. He was an undrafted free agent and

530
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: he's turned himself. Every year he's increased. He averaged twenty

531
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: points a game this season.

532
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: They think very very highly of him, and they were

533
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: very they're very, very reluctant to put him in any trade.

534
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 4: Come on, excuse me unless it gives them a bona

535
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 4: fide BoNT Who is gonna give up a bona fide

536
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 4: guy for osin Reeps? It's all right, I mean I'm

537
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: not I'm not down on them saying he can't play,

538
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: but I'm not giving.

539
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: I'm not giving from the All Star up forcin Reeps.

540
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: I can't do that. You gotta give me a lot

541
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: more than that.

542
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: And then you said, will give you a first they

543
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: give you a first round picking dog first round.

544
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: I can't go that like that.

545
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: No, you got to give me some real players. That's

546
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 4: coming back to me. If I'm Memphis, I can't. If

547
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 4: you're if you're members right now, you're destroying your team.

548
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 4: You're already doing this saying with bains and you're talking

549
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 4: my job. But you gotta keep one piece like that.

550
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: And and that Jackson dude is he is, he's the valuable.

551
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: Just give up for nothing bread bread you know unk

552
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: over there he rubbed his hand like this here because

553
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: he got If the Lakers get Jan Jackson Jr. Man,

554
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: that could that can put him in the lead company.

555
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: You know that, you know that's a that's the think

556
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: we gotta show up. Refercation man that's only. That's the

557
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: only reason he gives us this count of crap.

558
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 4: You know this is this is you know, oh Joe, Oh,

559
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 4: y'all just reported the dude brand all report the news brand.

560
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: That's all. I'm doing. Nothing but some ship that he's

561
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: given up now, that's all. That's all. It's a backup.

562
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 4: And you and you're walking around right now in LA

563
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 4: with some dogs and you ain't even got one of

564
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 4: no classic badge shooting all over the lawn.

565
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 3: You got to give that up. No, I ain't doing that.

566
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 4: No.

567
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 3: Maybe, hey look at bread, y'all. Team is gonna be

568
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 3: very different next year.

569
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 4: You know that.

570
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: I know that.

571
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: And it's not just gonna be because Jason Tatum is

572
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: not playing. There's gonna be a lot of changes to

573
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: that Celtic I totally agree.

574
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if I don't think for Jingus is

575
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: gonna be here, I don't know if you're you're you're you're.

576
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: Talking about all day is gonna be here.

577
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: And because I think you're gonna match the reset, but

578
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: you subtract now because you lost your best player.

579
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, didn't didn't. I didn't, my boy, I'll retire

580
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: no man, helm But man, I gonna make my club.

581
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: I told him that. Joe.

582
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: I said, oh, here's a death. He's almost forty years old.

583
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 4: They're paying on about ten billion dollars a year just

584
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 4: to stay in shape. Where you're going and Al got

585
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 4: about five kids at home. Please he ready to do. Hey,

586
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 4: Brian Man, thank you so much for joining us tonight.

587
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 4: Thank you for your joining us doing the playoffs. We

588
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 4: greatly appreciate it. Hey, come back, man, I'm gonna come

589
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 4: back so and I enjoyed deal with you guys, and

590
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 4: I want I'm I'm gonna stay it on the air.

591
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: I want you and O Joe out on my podcast,

592
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: Cedric Match. Who a podcast.

593
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna holler at you because your producer didn't tell

594
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: you whether I wanted to say so.

595
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: Anyway, guys, I enjoyed. Thank you very much for having

596
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: me on. All right, remember want you do?

597
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 5: Hey?

598
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: Did you get the did you get the look? Up?

599
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: Got the looking already drank it so poys. You know

600
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: that they come to me. I know they said they're

601
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: gonna send me some merchandise. Joe laid it out the bag.

602
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: Sit yo, man, I got some merchandise. I got some

603
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: good merch to I didn't get no merch. Yeah, we

604
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 4: get yourself. Brad, appreciate it, man, thanks for joining us,

605
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: and we got you got good. It's no one surprise.

606
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: Shade was just named Finals MVP. So he's the regular

607
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: season m VP Western Conference m v P Finals MVP

608
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 4: averaged thirty points, five and a half persist one, almost

609
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 4: two steals a game, one and a half blocked shots

610
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: per game, and he's only.

611
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: Twenty years of age. I got a customer.

612
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 5: I'm glad you just said that. And now think about

613
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 5: everything you just named off. He's won to ring already.

614
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: He was the MVP this season.

615
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 5: Now, we talked about this a very very long time

616
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 5: all throughout the NBA season. You said you would take

617
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: joke of Sta. Yeah it would, yes, Ring ye still

618
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 5: take still Yeah yeah yeah, Yo kids got a ring too.

619
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: You remember yo kids did all that?

620
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. I mean, I'm.

621
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: I want to see him if you're yeah, And that's

622
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: not the And that's not to take away anything from.

623
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: From Shape.

624
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: Yes, he's a phenomenal player, but I mean you're talking

625
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: about I mean and and you like really splitting hairs.

626
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: So you're looking at Shane, You're looking at your kids.

627
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: You're looking at Giannis, I think, hey, I think those

628
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: are the three best players.

629
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Maybe you're sprinkling Luca something when he's healthy and going.

630
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: But Shaye, I mean to be twenty six years of age.

631
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: They brought him in. He's you know, kind of learned

632
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: under Chris Paul and then they turned the bread. They

633
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: turned the organization over to a kid that wasn't.

634
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the thing, and when you talk to o Chell,

635
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 4: the supporting cast, you look at the best, yes forty cast.

636
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, you can look at okay,

637
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: see with the supporting cast, new Dorg looked like he

638
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: should have been playing with the with the Cleveland Browns,

639
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: the where he was knocking down that big waiting to thing.

640
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: The big question we're gonna talk about, Lendy Lord and gentlemen,

641
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: is this. You talk about three guys who were the MVPs.

642
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: When they were with the.

643
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 4: Thumberer, they couldn't get it done, Hardened Westbrook and the

644
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 4: Rank they couldn't get it done. But now they've gone

645
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: to a smaller, more effective lineup, not just biggest stars,

646
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: but they still won. But those three guys that you

647
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: talk about, that that's supporting cast they had that they

648
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: should have won one or two.

649
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: They kill they getting let James Hard. You remember they

650
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: went to the championship, they lost to the Heat, and

651
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: then the next year, for five million dollars, they let

652
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: James Harden go to the Rockets. And that was kind

653
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: of the beginning. And we're gonna talk about this a

654
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: little later. Every last one of those guys that started

655
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: in OK see somehow found a way to get to

656
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: get to the Rockets.

657
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: You know.

658
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: It started with Hard and Russ and now KD. So

659
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: we'll get to that a little later.

660
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: But you're absolutely right because you look at these two teams,

661
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: what do they have bench play?

662
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: The bench players play extremely well. They're a very deep team.

663
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: You look at Obi Topp and then played well tonight,

664
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: but he normally plays well. But you got mattpern he

665
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: gave you twenty four.

666
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: TJ.

667
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: McConnell gave you sixteen, So that's forty points. You got

668
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: forty two points from your bench. You really can't could

669
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: play like that about that. Mcconnall just didn't have a

670
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: good gut. He played well offensively, but the turnovers he

671
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of careless turnovers.

672
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: Tonight he had seven, they had twenty one.

673
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: They had seven turnovers in the third quarter when okay

674
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: see really opened up the game. Yes, I mean because

675
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: they would have a one point lead and all of

676
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: a sudden, you start the fourth quarter and you're down thirteen.

677
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: So you go from plus one to minus thirteen. And

678
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: a large part had to do with the turnovers. You

679
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: lost the turnover battle in that they did a great

680
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: job of taking care of it. And you know, this

681
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: is how OKAC played. They're very active with their hands,

682
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: especially at home that crowd as rockers, and you just

683
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: got killless with the basketball. Okay see this season number

684
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: one in net rating, number two all time first, and

685
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: defensive rating third and offensive rating second, Youngest championship team

686
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: in NBA history only behind the nineteen seventy seven.

687
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: For the drill you led by it.

688
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: You didn't mention one guy who was spectically effective in

689
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: that thing, and it was really Alex Caruso.

690
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna talk about the ball Eagle.

691
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: I know, Shannon, that hurts you because you spilled a

692
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: fakek girl over there with the KI, but Jolleys. Carusso

693
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: was huge for them defensively, offensively, he is able to

694
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: shut the door and really contain guys, and he made

695
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: it extremely tough for them, especially talking about those steals.

696
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: He was part of that steel thing on every player. Hey,

697
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: our brand.

698
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: I think I'll make great points especially about they bench,

699
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: you know the others that they played well. Obviously, you

700
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: know the more likely whoever bench plays well, they team win.

701
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: But to me, if you look at chick Homebridge, I

702
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: think he was averaging eleven points throughout this throughout this

703
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: finally run the night he had eighteen points, a rebounds,

704
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: five blocks, and he was six to eight from the field,

705
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: very efficient. So probably his best game. Yeah, he plays well.

706
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: Plus Shay and you got Wings playing well, it's hard

707
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: to beat them. They just hadn't got consistent played from

708
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: check Homeridge, you know what I mean. So if he

709
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: give him five blocks, he give you eighteen or twenty

710
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: two points a night, And I think that's his next

711
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: that's his next ceiling to where he can be consistent

712
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: on a ninety night basis with these guys.

713
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 3: That's what's gonna make him a dynasty and make them

714
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: hard to beat.

715
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: But you know what think about this, Yeah, Okay, jam Nah,

716
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 5: that a hold on you before you go cornbread. I mean, Joe, listen,

717
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 5: you talk about dynasty right now after after the team,

718
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 5: don't The one way to have a dynasty, right is

719
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 5: to be able to keep your core coople guys together.

720
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: Now they just win a championship. Now what happens. You

721
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: have players that deserve and want to get paid, that

722
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 3: don't want to stay there, no.

723
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 5: Getting ready to get paid. So players are gonna leave.

724
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 5: How you gonna say dynasty went?

725
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't get that feeling from Okay, seeing

726
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: those guys they look.

727
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: And I think when when you win, Oh, Joe, you

728
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: have to go in the luxury tax you know, everybody

729
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: gets paid, you know what I mean, they're small market.

730
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: But the fact that they don't want you mean to

731
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: tell me you're gonna let one of these cornerstone guys

732
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: get out of here?

733
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: You can't.

734
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: You know, it's good, it's good to say, Joe, But

735
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: them dead presidents, they changed your mind.

736
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: A lot of the time.

737
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 4: They might think that they might say that, but when

738
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: you're talking about their luxury taxes, you're peeling and guy

739
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 4: ten million.

740
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: But now it projects out that you're paying.

741
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 4: In thirteen goodier in the year now teams hit the

742
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 4: chants in their minds.

743
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: Sometimes they have they might want to pull back. I

744
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: just like that when you talk about dynasties.

745
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 4: I'm looking like just last year where people said about

746
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: the Celtics, the Celtics is gonna win the championship again

747
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: with Tatling Brown and all those players.

748
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: What happened? They didn't win? This is this is what.

749
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: And the NBA loves that and the fact that you

750
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 4: have different teams winning championships because it promotes all that's

751
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 4: just equaliquorating among the teams.

752
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: The fans don't like it though, the fact the fans

753
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: because the thing is read the fans in the NBA

754
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: are different than the fans of the NFL because small

755
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: market team Pittsburgh, small market, but they got ravenous fans

756
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: and they've been cheering for the Steelers for fifty to

757
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: fifty years.

758
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 3: Green Bay, small market, been cheering up to the NBA.

759
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: Don't have that.

760
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: You gotta go La, you gotta go to New York,

761
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: you gotta go Boston, you gotta go to these Chicago,

762
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: these massive markets to get a following because if not,

763
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: it's just regional. Because think about it, your grandfather ready

764
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: for the Steelers, and so when he had kids and

765
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: they moved away. They don't live in Pittsburgh, they're somewhere else.

766
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: But they're still Stealers fans. Green Bay. They don't live

767
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. They're still Packer fans though. The Cowboys

768
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: they just so that's how it has to be. But

769
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: I think the thing is what the NBA can do

770
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: the players, the team. Oh, Joe that you're on, Joe

771
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: and Brad, you know this.

772
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 2: I can give you an extra I can give you

773
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: that your fear I get hey, you go somewhere else,

774
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 2: you gonna go get four.

775
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: I can give you five full of guarantee. Now do

776
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: you want four years in one sixty or do you

777
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: want five year?

778
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 3: Jenny? You say nothing about small market teams? Live yre?

779
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 4: What is?

780
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 3: What was Miami? Is that a small market? And let's

781
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: talk about San Antonio? What's that a smugger market? Those are?

782
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: And then don't not gonna ratings and the ratings. But

783
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 4: for those they ready were there. But go look at

784
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 4: look at Sandy Tonio.

785
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: Look at Sandy Tonio when they play, Look and they

786
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: had great Look at dun Duncan You had Jabbins, you

787
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: had Parker you had Genobly's if if different NFL market

788
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: small markets versus.

789
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: NBA, I gave you that. I look at Miami. Is

790
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 3: Miami a small market?

791
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: No?

792
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: No, it's it's not like like when I look at

793
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: small markets, I'm looking at like Andy, I'm looking at

794
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm looking at like uh.

795
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 3: People would rather go Okay now, and you're talking about people.

796
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 4: What was some of the most stair weather fans I

797
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: ever saw in my life go to the We went

798
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: to the game here and oh yeah, for sure, oh

799
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 4: manleft the game early.

800
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, they left the game early. And then when

801
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 3: ray Hally here shot. They wanted to get the ass

802
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: factor that they try to come back in. Don't tell me,

803
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: damn smaller market and your loyalty and this heat culture.

804
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: I believe what Janet is but bread bread, But you

805
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: know how it's worked now. It's same thing with l A.

806
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: If you don't win, them, fans not coming because there's

807
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: too much to do. See what they're gonna do?

808
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: What that's your question? What else are you gonna do it? Okay?

809
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: See what else are you gonna do it? In the

810
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: besides go to a damn basketball game? But watch the

811
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: Indianapolis five hundred. So now in Miami, I got the beach, ohto,

812
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: I got South Beach. I got so much I can

813
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: do La Bread. You know how much it's going on.

814
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: So if you don't win in those markets, oh bro

815
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: coming yeah.

816
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, the only people that will go.

817
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 5: We talk about hardcore fans, fans you win and losing,

818
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 5: that they will die and ride by you whether you

819
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 5: win losing. But when it comes to Miami or with

820
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 5: any of the big market team, the New York LA's,

821
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 5: the Miami's, maybe maybe you go you just god go,

822
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 5: oh go another one, and the fans ain't coming. They're

823
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 5: not sitting through that. They're not spending their harder money,

824
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 5: especially in this goddamn confe.

825
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: Connedy messed up and we lose it. Nah uh, it's

826
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: saying small Marcus, New Orleans. Okay, see Milwaukee, San Antonio, Utah, Indiana, Charlotte. Hey,

827
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: we talking about TV markets Now, I got you. I

828
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: have a question too, yes with okay, like where people

829
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: always want.

830
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: To go and play no matter what.

831
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 5: They love to go play in Houston, they love to

832
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 5: go play in Miami, they love to go and play

833
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 5: in La Yes, sure does does The thunder and edg

834
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 5: Winn in the championship that attract suitors from the outside

835
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 5: want to go playing. Okay, see, there's only one thing.

836
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 5: What else am I gonna do that? If I don't

837
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: go what so other? What other pro sporting event? Can

838
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 5: I go to an Oklahoma city besides the see in Miami,

839
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 5: I can go? Can I go see something? Can I

840
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 5: see football?

841
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? Could I see them? Go to the rodeo? Shening

842
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: go to the road? Deal?

843
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: Remember Sandy Tonio have to hit the road every year,

844
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: red cut, they got the got the what's the color?

845
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 3: Coming to rodeo? Coming through Indiana? So it's like Milwaukee.

846
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: What else are you gonna do with Milwaukee besides go

847
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: see the Bucks play, go to the Harley Day with

848
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: some museum. So there's only I mean, when people have

849
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: families and kids, they don't just want to like, hey

850
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: hey babe, I mame, what are we gonna do tonight?

851
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: Everything boarded up? I mean, you got kids, they want

852
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: to do stuff, and it it's cold. They can't do

853
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 1: anything after September Day inside, How did how.

854
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 4: Did Pittsburgh get such your following Since it's such a

855
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: small market and.

856
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: You're talking about the NFL but how do they do it?

857
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: Considering that's what you gonna do. Ain't nothing.

858
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: Got the Pirates, You got the Pirates, and you got

859
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: and you got and you got the Steelers. And when

860
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: the Steelers came up, the stealer. Think about the early seventies,

861
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: they dominated, and so now they're they're putting that imprint

862
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: on you.

863
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: Man, the Steelers, man, the Steelers, the Steelers, the Steelers,

864
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 2: and so kids that had kids, they.

865
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 4: Grew up Steelers fans. I grew up a Steelers fans.

866
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: My mom was a Steelers fan because they've always on TV.

867
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: Same bag with the Raiders, Oakland, Oakland. Spawn was small,

868
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: but they hey, that's all you saw. And so once

869
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: you got a page and you had kids, what do

870
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: kid do? Take you to the game.

871
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Hey they got a Cubs jersey old, or they got

872
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: a Celtics jersey old, and so you just it just

873
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: passes down, passes down.

874
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 4: I like it.

875
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: Look, Brad, you said, the NBA like this, But we've

876
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: seen we haven't seen anything like this. Seven consecutive different champs.

877
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: We haven't seen for this particular series. They were Love Island.

878
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: Love Island got better than I'm just gonna keep it

879
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: in the stack with y'all. Man, I'm just saying, hey,

880
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: it was a good series. Hey chatt, hey, don't get

881
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: up simple chat. But I'm just saying, love love that bread.

882
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: That really happened. Let me give you a stat right here.

883
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: J dubbed this season, he was an All Star, All Defense,

884
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: All NBA, and he's a champion. He's the youngest player

885
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: since Kobe Bryant to achieved all four of those in

886
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: the same season. This is what Scotti Pippens said about

887
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: Jayalen Williams. I don't even want to put a cap

888
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: on him and say that he's going to be me.

889
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: I see him being greater if I can say that,

890
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: just because where the game is today, they have offensive freedom.

891
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: We didn't have that.

892
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: We mostly ran out of a system. These guys have

893
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: the freedom to shoot the three balls, to do things

894
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: of that nature. Players are playing in today's game have

895
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: a chance to be better than players in the past

896
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: because of the ability to shoot the ball.

897
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: Wow wow, somebody said it.

898
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, But anyway, if this kid continued to shoot

899
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: the three ball the way he shoots, I'm going to

900
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: see here and say and argue with nobody, say he

901
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: can't he can compare to us, because you can't.

902
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: He wins.

903
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't Red, go ahead, Joe, let let Joe let

904
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: you know, trp me first, then you go brand and

905
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: then all Joe on here what you gotta say, Joe

906
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: you muted?

907
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: Yea?

908
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: I mean now, yeah, man, I agree with Pippen saying

909
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: because back in his day, you know, they played with

910
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: two traditional bigs, and now now and today's game especially Okay,

911
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: see they don't have nobody posting up siously. You know

912
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: those guys are picking pop guys and jade up and shape.

913
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: They kind of get to they get free will as

914
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: supposed to win. They shoot how they want to shoot,

915
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: so they can give it to you however they want.

916
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: I think that the game is a lot more wide

917
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: open nine. Yes, you they do have a lot more

918
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: freedom than guys had back back when Scotti was playing.

919
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: Uh, Joe, I think the game is tailor made for

920
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 4: you right now because it is an ISO game.

921
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: It is one on one game, and if you are

922
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: a guy can put the ball on the floor, you

923
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: can score up from the outside. It's almost impossible to

924
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: stop you. During the time that I played, when we

925
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 3: had McHale Perish myself.

926
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: Bird. We were post up guys, and we stayed right

927
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 4: on that block, so you didn't. We weren't trying to

928
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 4: trick you. We're just gonna beat the hell out of

929
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: you in the damn post that nobody.

930
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 3: Nobody doubts that anymore. Shit anymore.

931
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 4: It's a dead game. So because of that, the game

932
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: has changed so much in a way. And Scotty, I

933
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: appreciate Scotty giving up up like that, but I tell

934
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 4: you what, I'm like, Ze, and this is Joe and

935
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: old Joe, and I would love to see what would

936
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: happened if you've been playing during the eighties when guys

937
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 4: looked throwing his ass to the ground. Now, it wasn't

938
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: all this, all this he getting you up in the air,

939
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: thanking you, doing all this stuff. You know, how to

940
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 4: truck played like that. Detroit used to play two pounds.

941
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: One guy will hit you if the other guy free,

942
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 4: you know what, Joe. That gave the other guy freedom

943
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: to not the hell out of that. So so we

944
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: take another special guy. And I'm not taking away from

945
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: what Shake does. I'm really not, but I like to

946
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: see what he do with hand checking.

947
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: Joe. The error you played in yes, I like to

948
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 3: see what he would do right now when it came

949
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: to hard fire.

950
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: You think you see some of these founds they called

951
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 4: the day the guy said blakeer foul when the guy

952
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 4: rushed in me hit him. Then during my particular era,

953
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 4: they would have laughed at your ass, like right, no, no,

954
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: you ain't bleeding when your eyes say now, oh Joe,

955
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: if you ain't, if you ain't missing a tooth or nothing,

956
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: you won't believe from the.

957
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: Note, they won't call him that.

958
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: So I would love to know, how shall I'm not

959
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 4: taking away anything from no hatred at all, but I

960
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: love to see how they played.

961
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: During the physical game, the way it was played during

962
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: that time. Hey, right, I like what Pepper said, Uncle Joe,

963
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: and bread like I like what he said.

964
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 5: But the funny thing about it is there are sudden

965
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 5: players regards of era, regardless of era, based on skill setting,

966
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 5: DNA and what they bring to the table in that

967
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 5: specific era. With regards of what era you put certain

968
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 5: individuals in, they're gonna succeed regardles of how the game,

969
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 5: whether it's in the eighties, whether it's in the nineties,

970
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 5: whether in the two thousand, or whether it's now a

971
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 5: player like HGA, he will thrive. He will still thrive

972
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 5: and just adapt to the circumstances and environment and the

973
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 5: style of playing which they played, if he was in

974
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 5: the eighties or in the nineties when they were a

975
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 5: lot more physical.

976
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: The same thing goals for pipping. It's hard to compare errors.

977
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: You really can't do it. You can't era up when

978
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: you played. The rule changes. The rule change exactly, the

979
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: rule changes. Obviously. You think about the game of basketball, right,

980
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: everything is ice.

981
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 5: So now back then, the Jordan era, the pipping era,

982
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 5: they played with ko bigs back in your day.

983
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 3: Un goddamn, look at the yards you got. You gotta

984
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: goddamn jacks, you.

985
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 5: Got a bust in the Hall of Fame, and goddamn

986
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 5: can right and you've played during the running game era.

987
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 5: Imagine if you played right now, you and your prime

988
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 5: and they throwing the ball twenty million times every guy.

989
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 3: Damn, you're laughing. You're laughing like you're about to get

990
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 3: that paid or something. Right now. Hey, hey, hey, I see.

991
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Them, I see them guys making the tight end, making

992
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: seventeen dollars a year.

993
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: I do see that. Hey, uh, I mean just go

994
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: to show you just how well the thunder to play defense.

995
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: Indiana shot the ball better from the field, better from

996
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: the three point line, better from the free throw line,

997
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: and they all rebound them.

998
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: But they had one glaring stat They tripled the turnovers

999
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: twenty one to seven. That is the difference in the ball.

1000
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: Lovers will kill you in any game you play. And

1001
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 4: I don't care what sport it is. They play football,

1002
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: you turn that ball over. You played basketball, you turned over,

1003
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 4: and it's going to be a recipee for you to

1004
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 4: lose because those are wasted opportunities. A lot of people

1005
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 4: laughed when they talked about the self excuse in the threes,

1006
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 4: and I talked to Jae Mizzoula about this.

1007
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: He said, Max, I reckon.

1008
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 4: For him to shoot the three, then turn the damn

1009
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: ball over, because that therefore you wouldn't give a shot opportunity.

1010
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 4: And I'm like, damn, that doesnake's sister. You at least

1011
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: you shoot it, you get an opportunity to go in.

1012
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 4: But when you turn the ball over in a live situation,

1013
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 4: your defense is locksided going back the other way, and

1014
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: it just kills you. And you can see it hurt

1015
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: Indiana all day.

1016
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: TJ.

1017
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 4: McCollough was a smart player, Joe. They surprised me when

1018
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: he crossed the court at that time to have court

1019
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 4: and it got double and he pussed the ball out. Yeah,

1020
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 4: but you smiled at than that, You boy, you ain't.

1021
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 4: It's a point guard. You ain't supposed to cross that line.

1022
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: I am getting pained on the sideline.

1023
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: He got kept. He kept getting pined in the corner.

1024
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: He's only so tall, so when they come with a

1025
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: double team, he's not getting out of that because he

1026
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: can't love.

1027
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: You had to know that he was gonna make some mistake. Guys.

1028
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: They asked an awful lot of him, you know, when

1029
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: went down, so he probably he ain't accustomed to he

1030
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: since the first quarter. Tyreeves went down the first quarter,

1031
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: and now TJ had to step in and be the

1032
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: guy against the starters.

1033
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: He ain't going to get their backups.

1034
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: Now, now he's going to givest J dub, he's going

1035
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: to give door, He's going to he end up with

1036
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: the trees with Chat.

1037
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: So it's a difference you're asking him to do. You

1038
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: asking him to be TJ. But I need more of

1039
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: that from you, and I need you to give it

1040
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: to me.

1041
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 4: If they're one, Joe, let me let me ask you this,

1042
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: Joe way to some of them players you used to

1043
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 4: play with when you're win on your team.

1044
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 3: And they be talking all that ship and then they

1045
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: get in the game and be a real game. Man,

1046
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: what help?

1047
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 4: Hey?

1048
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: Hey, listen all that damn questions too much?

1049
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, look hey Brian Ojo, let me tell you

1050
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: something I was in college, man, I'm telling you, when

1051
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: I first got the campus, I wanted to play in

1052
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: the hype that's where everybody used to play it. And

1053
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: I had dudes on my team, bro average two point

1054
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: three points a game. Who in the hype looking like

1055
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: Jordan's and here. But once that pop worn go to popping,

1056
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: them lights come on. I'm like, damn, what happened? Yeah,

1057
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: he ain't the same no more, it ain't them lights

1058
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: come on and.

1059
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: Want to box.

1060
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 4: O Cho said the right things. Then, A it is

1061
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 4: for some people, and it's showing for some other people.

1062
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: Because when them damn big lights come on and they

1063
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 4: damn put a little bit more butther on the damn popcorn,

1064
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: some of these people are gonna pall.

1065
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: Like a damn cheap ship. That's gonna Yeah, it's funny

1066
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: that y'all say that, because my freshman we had a guy.

1067
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: There was roommates, and one of the guys who was

1068
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,479
Speaker 1: the starter wide receiver his roommate. Go tell the coach,

1069
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: he like, Coach, if you gave me some run, I

1070
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: can catch just as good as my roommate. I can

1071
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: catch just as good as this guy. Sure enough, coach

1072
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: put him in the game. Drop everything he threw it.

1073
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: Coach after the game, he say, son, you came to

1074
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: my office and tell me you better than Barney. We

1075
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: put you in the game, he put him on plast

1076
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: your roommate, I'm better than him.

1077
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: You done told the coach, I'm better than my roommate.

1078
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: He put you in the game. You lay an egg, and.

1079
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 4: Then the coach called you out in front of everybody

1080
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 4: in Your roommate sit there looking at him.

1081
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: Call him out.

1082
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 4: You s'll call him out. You go all that off

1083
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: and all that damn Lloyd's shore. You've seen enough of that.

1084
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 4: All the damn guys back you up. We used to

1085
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: tell guys in practice till the time, what the hell

1086
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 4: you founding me like that? You?

1087
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, listen, I don't I don't think I don't

1088
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: think people understand how difficult it is. It's one thing

1089
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: to be playing in the park. It's one thing to

1090
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 3: be having fun recreational with your friends.

1091
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 5: But I'm talk about at the highest level, bring going on,

1092
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 5: untibry at the highest level when them lives turn on,

1093
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 5: especially if you are talker.

1094
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: You was a talker, Joey talker, and you've got to

1095
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: back it up. You got to back it up now.

1096
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: I don't think you understand how much pressure that is.

1097
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 5: And obviously when you see the finished product on a Sunday,

1098
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 5: you'd be like, well damn, they make it look easy.

1099
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 5: But what you don't get to see is all a

1100
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 5: work they motherfucker got to put in before you time

1101
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 5: he it on Sunday.

1102
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: We it just look easy but exact.

1103
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 4: But you know, but but out of all of the

1104
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: four of us right now on air, three of us,

1105
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: I know talk a lot of ship.

1106
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 3: I know Shannon did oh tell I know you and

1107
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: I know I did.

1108
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 4: But Joe to say nothing, Joe, but Joe just play.

1109
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 4: He played the game and gave you his a that's

1110
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: what he don't do. But I got to let you know,

1111
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 4: show you oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, hey, let your

1112
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 4: walk speak for himself.

1113
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: No, I was about speaking. I will speaking about talk,

1114
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: but I can't. I. Hey, they weren't. Hey, hold on,

1115
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: they working, say volumes now, not about oh yeah, you

1116
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: you gonna be in the way of working tomorrow.

1117
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 3: I got where you're sharing this hood my best story.

1118
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 4: I was playing against the Lakers and we had some

1119
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 4: some of them guys over there, Larry Spriggs and some

1120
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: of these guys really hadn't played that much and they

1121
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 4: were screaming, yelling at me, and I was taking the

1122
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 4: ball out. So I was about to get the ball

1123
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 4: from the referee and I said, hold up a minute,

1124
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 4: it's a hold up.

1125
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: He said, what do you want? I said.

1126
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: Pam Rowley was standing beside me. I said, Pat, put

1127
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 4: one of the motherfuckers in down there. Pat Rowley turns

1128
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: the rent and going, hey, you're going to game. This

1129
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 4: guy comes in the game to guard me. I score

1130
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: about ten quick points and going out to gate him,

1131
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 4: I said, next time, you'll sit your ass down and

1132
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: be quiet. I love Pam Rawley for that. I love

1133
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 4: and appreciate it. All the damn talking. You're doing a

1134
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 4: running your damn mouth over here.

1135
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: You ain't, you ain't. You should just re quiet and

1136
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: watch the damn game. Gotta free ticket. Shut up.

1137
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: We had three stars go down in the postseason with

1138
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: win A Kilees Dame Lilly went down first, Jason Tatum

1139
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: went down next, and then Tyrese Halliburton.

1140
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: They all wear the number zero.

1141
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Starts tweeted if Halliburton didn't tear the achilles, which

1142
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: he did, that would be the eighth achilles tear this season.

1143
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: The previous high was five in fourteen fifteen. That does

1144
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: not include the NASAs out of the Koumpo who tore

1145
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: his in the off season, or prospect Jaalen Moore who

1146
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: injured here in the recent pre draft workout. Unbelievable. Uh

1147
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: so hold on, uh, that's who Tom Havstroke, James Wiseman

1148
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Jackson two of theirs too, Right, So what

1149
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: if uh uh, Joe Brad you got played. I heard

1150
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: people saying, man, it's the low top shoes. But boy,

1151
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 1: with the way technology is now, ain't nobody with Terry

1152
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: nor Keeley with him, Chuck Taylor now they got all

1153
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: this technology.

1154
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: What's going on with Joe? I think it's this Joe.

1155
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 4: I believe the fact that these guys never rest. The

1156
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 4: guys you name Tatum played in the Olympics last year,

1157
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 4: never had no opportunity to rest. Hallack Burton played in

1158
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 4: the Olympics, never had an opportunity to rest.

1159
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: We know, we know what Dame does.

1160
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 4: He plays all this basketball because you don't rest your body,

1161
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 4: Shannon old Joe, Joe, Your damn body is gonna rest

1162
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: you out there and there might be the Achilles And

1163
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 4: you remember that the Achilles is one of those things.

1164
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: How do you really protect it because you can stratch

1165
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 4: it and do it, but you can't build it up

1166
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 4: like one of these strong muscles something.

1167
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's uh, go ahead, oto, go ahead. I'm

1168
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say.

1169
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 5: I see a lot of comments, a lot of people

1170
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 5: talking about, oh, you know, people are wearing low top

1171
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 5: shoes and and I mean, listen, having a hot top

1172
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 5: shoe is not not going to prevent that.

1173
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 3: It's not going to prevent that that that's something that's

1174
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 3: that's on the interior. Uh and listen, it just happens.

1175
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: It just happens. Why it happened, I'm not sure.

1176
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 5: Obviously, we know Halle had had an injury, and I'm

1177
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 5: not sure if the conversation for that area caused that

1178
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 5: the keys the rupture, But it's just unfortunate that it

1179
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 5: is happening. But I keep seeing the comments about Oh's

1180
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 5: because it had nothing to do with low top.

1181
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 3: Shoes in general. So either I don't, hot top shoe

1182
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: ain't fixing that. It's not ye, I don't.

1183
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: I don't think so neither uh bring. You could be right,

1184
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 2: it could be the wear and tear on these guys.

1185
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: But if y'all listen to Hallen Burton after Game five,

1186
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: he said that this will probably if this was regular season,

1187
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: this will be a two week, you know, layoff for him.

1188
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 3: He would be out for at least two weeks.

1189
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: And the fact that you can't get that and you

1190
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: can't get that kind of rest when you have those

1191
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 2: calf injuries. Man, I hate to say it, but this

1192
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: is the next thing that comes from it. You know,

1193
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: when you look at all the guys from excuse me, Durant,

1194
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 2: whether it was Dame, they all had these calf injuries,

1195
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 2: and you know you're playing in the postseason. You want

1196
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: to try to beat that for your team and give

1197
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: them everything you got, And honestly.

1198
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 3: It just becomes too much.

1199
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: It just becomes too much because the game is idle

1200
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: at such a high level playing in the finals, Like, bro,

1201
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: like you ain't you ain't gonna get no rest on that, like,

1202
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: because we're gonna test it every play down of court,

1203
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 2: every play offensively. He tried to get to the reck

1204
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 2: he trying to make a play. You got to push

1205
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: off on that. So I just think it was unfortunate

1206
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 2: for him.

1207
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 4: Man.

1208
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: I hate it for him too. Man, But who always

1209
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 3: gonna Who's gonna make that call?

1210
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 4: That?

1211
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 3: Who's gonna make that call?

1212
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: Piece of sit down because you know it's not gonna

1213
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: be the player because you because we know, and.

1214
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be the coach either, because I'm trying

1215
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: to win. The teammates are lucking that you you know,

1216
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 3: Havel were like, yo, man, rap that shut up. We

1217
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: got to talk.

1218
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 4: So I don't know how you prevent that. When it

1219
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: gets down to players and what they're able to do,

1220
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: a lot of times you said during the regular season, Joe,

1221
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 4: what would have happened? The only thing I think can

1222
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 4: happen is you if you have an independent doctor that

1223
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 4: has to look at players when they have their injury,

1224
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 4: that's the only way you can send them out. Ever,

1225
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 4: protect them because you can't protect the player from from

1226
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 4: himself in those situations because he's gonna want to go,

1227
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: He's gonna let.

1228
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: Me ask your question. Let me ask your question, Bred,

1229
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: who playing for that independent? Because if the team playing

1230
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: paying for it, it ain't independent. Wow, if you playing

1231
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: for it, they keep that always independence because he ain't

1232
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: doing no doctor don't do pro bomber work.

1233
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: So that's there. Our doctor borders not a lot of services.

1234
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 4: But other than that, that with with the Bill Walton

1235
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 4: trade that happened with me and Bill walk I passed it.

1236
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 4: I didn't really pass the test in LA when I

1237
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 4: went there. But when when Bill Walton got to got

1238
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 4: to Boston, Red lard back blow the little smoke and said, Bill,

1239
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 4: you pass his his damn near one as good as

1240
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 4: as your rabbans.

1241
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: And they way back in the day.

1242
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 4: But they but the power of coaches gms at that time,

1243
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 4: it's so different than this.

1244
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: So I don't know how you protect them player from himself. Right.

1245
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, guys. Is it a situation

1246
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: because now guys are so specialized. Guys play All they

1247
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: play is basketball, all they play is baseball, all they

1248
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: play is football. So you get no, so all you

1249
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: doing is distressing that. And then you got these tournaments. Joke,

1250
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: they played basketball year round. I'm like, damn, I thought

1251
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: I thought everything was a season. I thought football had

1252
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: a season. I thought basketball had a season. I thought

1253
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: baseball had a season. I thought track had a season.

1254
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: They do all this stuff year round.

1255
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: And that's why us as Americans, the basketball hoopers nowadays,

1256
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: we're behind because all we do is play, play, play,

1257
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: and the guys overseas they teaching the game. They teaching

1258
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: these dudes a game at a young age versus just

1259
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: throwing them out there.

1260
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 4: Now.

1261
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: Man, listen, we had a whole totally different era to it.

1262
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: Now oho oh bred, Hey, look if I want y'all

1263
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: to play on me. Okay, look I got one hundred

1264
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: grand for y'all this something, man, I need y'all to

1265
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: come play with me. That's all these people care about.

1266
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: They ain't trying to develop. They ain't developing these kids

1267
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: and teaching them really how to play the game. So therefore,

1268
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: as they get to the next level, whether it's college

1269
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: or pro, you know, a lot of them be lost

1270
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: and you don't really hear about them no more because

1271
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: it takes time, because when you get to a team

1272
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: and you're not the man, and you have to learn

1273
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: how to play, and you have to learn how to

1274
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 2: start in a row, and you ain't never had to

1275
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: do that.

1276
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: Oh man, you lost in the sauce. Oh yeah, daddy,

1277
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: that's about as true as it gifts. I had thought

1278
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: about it.

1279
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 4: But open your the skills set that they teach with

1280
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 4: the three points and the euro step and all that

1281
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 4: they have that down before they get here. Our players

1282
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 4: utilize one thing. It was Duncan and the quick speed,

1283
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 4: and you can't utilize that the whole time. You have

1284
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 4: to push down the back. Brother, So I think you

1285
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 4: are a thousand and six correct when it comes.

1286
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 3: To but but it's a AU basketball that kill the

1287
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: lot of that damn kid going.

1288
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 4: I ain't never seen the damn kid in the damn

1289
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 4: sixth grade over the damn California, North Carolina places down basketball.

1290
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't go across the damn

1291
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: street getting another side of town six or seven. Hey,

1292
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: When I was growing up, man, we played AAU ball.

1293
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 2: I played for the Arkansas Rockets pretty much my entire

1294
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: AU season til the last year I played with the

1295
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: Arkansas Hawks.

1296
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 3: And these are all guys straight out of Arkansas. Bro.

1297
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: Now you get guys, they're gonna be from something everywhere.

1298
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: They probably a don't even know each other until they

1299
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: get together, until to get ready to play, you know

1300
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: what I mean. So that's the that's the biggest difference.

1301
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brad, when we were coming up play what

1302
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: oh you better get you gotta work in the summer.

1303
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: You got hey, but see I want hey, but see

1304
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 3: I wanted We were so poor. I want summer close

1305
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 3: year round. Some of our brothers, some of our cousins,

1306
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 3: some of them.

1307
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, we were working to man, we

1308
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: were when I was when I was young, playing you man,

1309
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: we threw so many swim parties, car washers, TIPI raffles.

1310
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 3: We did okay, yeah, how you got the feelers? We

1311
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 3: yet to get them to Joe. Hold on you and Joe.

1312
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 3: I know you guys has summer that you have that

1313
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: a Sunday suit. Don't telling me that Oh yeah, yeah,

1314
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 3: I didn't have a Sunday suit. In some suit that

1315
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 3: we can go to Turkey and on Sunday, so we

1316
01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 3: have something else.

1317
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 4: The volume