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Speaker 1: And they say, am I the a hole? For telling

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Speaker 1: my mom and dad if they refuse to use the

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Speaker 1: name I gave my baby that I will go low contact.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they should be using that name.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's the baby that they I mean, is

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Speaker 1: it's the baby's name.

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Speaker 2: It's the baby's name. No, they were just like always

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Speaker 2: an Edward A.

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Speaker 1: Story about this like a while ago where the parents

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Speaker 1: refuse to use the name and then oh he got mad.

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Speaker 1: But let's see what our story says. No, Hi everyone,

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Speaker 1: my name is see I'm gonna say Carol, and I'm

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Speaker 1: twenty five female and my husband em we're called Mark,

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Speaker 1: who is twenty four male. Have been married since twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen and have one tall their three boy Nick, and

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Speaker 1: are currently nine months and about to pop pregnant with

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Speaker 2: Wait, they got married when she was when he was

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Speaker 2: and she was twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Right, The main people in this am I the a hole?

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Speaker 1: Are me and my parents forty eight. Female mom who

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Speaker 1: will call Beatrice and visit you, male who will call bread.

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Speaker 2: Everyone in this is so young. Yeah, those are young parents.

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Speaker 1: Got young'ins. So I'm the youngest of six girls. What wow?

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Speaker 1: Then they start a real young what And I'm the

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Speaker 1: only one who has boys. All my other sisters have

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Speaker 1: girls or no children. So I like to give a

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Speaker 1: bit of a backstory saying I never had a good

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Speaker 1: relationship with my parents. Wasn't child Protective Services bad, but

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Speaker 1: it was toxic and I was shipped. I didn't mind

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Speaker 1: to be raised by my teen years at my grandmother's

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Speaker 1: yammies gammies. Now, after I turned seventeen, I went no

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Speaker 1: contact with my parents due to a bad event that

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Speaker 1: tried to ruin my name to our extended family minus

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Speaker 1: the grandparents, who knew better than to listen to them anyway.

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Speaker 1: Soast forward in twenty twenty one and I have my

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Speaker 1: were in low contact mode after my husband convinced me

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Speaker 2: So basically in low contact.

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Speaker 1: And no contact and go into low contact. Mind you,

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Speaker 1: I hadn't said a word to them the whole time,

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Speaker 1: so when they asked about my son, they asked what

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Speaker 1: I named him, and I told them Nick, and my

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Speaker 1: mom was like, why didn't you name him after your dad?

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Speaker 1: I was in shock, like, what do you expect? Honorifics?

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Speaker 1: When we got back into contact, just in no contact, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we just started talking to you. You want me to name

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Speaker 1: said I don't want to do that, and plus his

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Speaker 1: dad's middle name, which my son's middle name was in

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Speaker 1: honor of my grandpa and my husband's brother, who passed

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Speaker 1: want to drop it. Well. Fast forward in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: the gender reveal what my parents expected. They said, so

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Speaker 1: you're gonna name him after your dad, right? I just

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Speaker 1: rolled my eyes and said, no, I don't do first

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Speaker 1: name honorifics. I might do a middle name, but that's it.

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Speaker 1: What's the deal with first name HONORIFICX? Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's weird to I could have been a Frank.

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Speaker 1: My dad was Frank the third. I could have been

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Speaker 2: He doesn't do honor, doesn't honor, And I guess my

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Speaker 3: My brother's names are honorifics. Yeah, I didn't get one.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I would name a child the honor.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I would name my child my name,

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Speaker 1: Name like my name.

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Speaker 2: No, No, they can't be like alive What that was.

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Speaker 3: I named my kid after all four did?

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Speaker 2: I don't want I have to deal with naming my

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Speaker 2: I had to deal with my name being like said

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, you know, That's what I'm saying. Like,

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Speaker 2: I can only name, I can only do an honorific

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Speaker 3: Would you name your kid after me?

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Speaker 3: I have a family member who has a kid named

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Speaker 1: No way, whoa congrats? How does it feel made an impact?

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Speaker 3: I've only seen a kid like twice, so I don't

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Speaker 2: I guess that works in my in my.

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Speaker 1: Thing and Sophia's matrix of why you should not do honorifics.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I had already figured out to name, and

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Speaker 1: Godric Gryffindor, I guess, so, yeah, Godrick Gryffindor. I told

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Speaker 1: I Godric's a sick name.

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Speaker 2: I would probably I would probably look at them twice.

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Speaker 1: You've read Harry Potter like thirty.

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Speaker 2: My mind would go Gryffindor.

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Speaker 1: Because it's a sick name, Godrick Gryffindor is dope. Godric's

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't say anything, but I just be like.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, Sophia. Well, because you're part of the

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Speaker 1: okay fam, Sophia can go and criticize you and your

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Godrick is a great No. No, I forgot no, no.

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Speaker 1: What I was gonna do for the first name, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go him Sam Junior.

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Speaker 1: Trying to keep my composure, I said, you are more

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Speaker 1: it like how we use Nick's middle name to get

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Speaker 1: barked out a short laugh and said, you will use

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Speaker 1: not disrespect my name choice or my boundaries that I

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's true? Harsh? Or do you think

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Speaker 2: I think if my parents were like, I'm not using

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Speaker 1: Said, yeah, I would be annoyed. Would annoying too? You

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Speaker 1: be in contact. So if you want to see us,

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Speaker 1: you will respect our and my wishes. I left the

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Speaker 1: for debates. When I got home, my husband said he

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Speaker 1: is in full agreement that they should respect your boundaries.

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Speaker 1: But did I have to be so harsh? My oldest sister,

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Speaker 1: if I hurt their feelings because my dad, not for

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Speaker 1: how many times I have to correct them on certain

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Speaker 1: place for a reason. But I want to know. Am

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Speaker 2: No, I think you have full rights to go low contact.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a child's name is important. It's important,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Raven Claw not not a fan. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with Sam Junior. Rowena, Rowena Rowena, Raven Claude, got Salga Hufflepuff,

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Speaker 2: Albus Woolfrick, Brian Dumbledore.

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Speaker 1: Would you name a kid Albus?

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Speaker 2: No? I don't even know why Harry named his kid Albus.

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Speaker 1: Because it was meaningful? Weird?

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Speaker 1: Was fit? You're honorrific? He was dead and Harry's got to.

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Speaker 2: Name all his kids names that meant something to him.

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Speaker 2: Ginny got nothing?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean, Jenny? Also, that's it?

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Speaker 2: That was still Harry.

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Speaker 1: low contact with your parents if they were refusing to

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Speaker 1: call your child to buy the right name for your

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Speaker 1: answers in the comments below. But with that, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a callin. Hey, this is Sam and Sophia and

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Speaker 1: Riley from okop show. Who are you talking with? What's Mary? Catherine?

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Speaker 1: How's it going?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Pretty good?

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Speaker 1: So we saw your callin where the bio father of

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Speaker 1: your baby admitted that he was in love with you

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Speaker 1: and wanted to leave his wife wife to be with you,

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Speaker 1: And you're asking what should I do? Is that true?

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Speaker 4: So? No, no, no, no, So I was adopted. I

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Speaker 4: had a guy reach out to me probably about ten

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Speaker 1: He thought he was, Oh, he was your biosph biological father. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and what did he say from there?

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Speaker 4: that he wasn't okay like a month. A month after

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Speaker 4: the DNA test result, he was like, I think I'm

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Speaker 4: I just told him, I was like, you need to go.

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Speaker 4: My biological mother was amiscuous and she loved marines.

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Speaker 4: And he was stationed in Jacksonville, and he actually reached

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Speaker 1: for okop Relash. I accidentally revealed that my boyfriend's mom

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Speaker 1: How does it get worse? Obligatory. This story actually happened

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Speaker 1: about a year ago. I eighteen female at the time,

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Speaker 1: His father early sixties was a mechanic and his mom

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Speaker 1: you mean he's oh, gesturing to my boyfriend's father. ME, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know, I was just asking about your biological father.

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Speaker 1: Jacob's mom, I would never cheat on you. Older sister

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Speaker 5: Honestly, like you can see people's real name, court wreckords

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Speaker 5: So what happened next?

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Speaker 1: So is what Opie says. I tried to excuse myself

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine you're like an eighteen year old kid,

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Speaker 1: You cause this the divorce literally yeah, oh my, so

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Speaker 1: I thought, I said, all the kids, all the kids

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, wow yeah that your dad was

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Speaker 1: With someone for causing my parents divorce like this?

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Speaker 5: Like she didn't intentionally cause it, but like, what what

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Speaker 1: How do you would react? Do you think it's not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, right, like she didn't truly

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Speaker 3: But also I.

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Speaker 1: Also don't think they broke up because of this, oh,

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's He's probably like, I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I can't imagine, like, uh, the girlfriend would

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Speaker 5: Yeah, imagine imagine I get married. Yeah Okay, Yeah that's

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Speaker 1: If you like this story, check out this one where

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Speaker 4: Oh y