Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, I feel super awesome right now. We're back,
Speaker 1: We're black, we're brown, and ambition. Have you on the ambition?
Speaker 2: Hey man, hey, I'm here. Another show, another week. We're
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're doing it.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for all your first and foremost.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much. I got a flood of
Speaker 2: messages and well wishes and so many like I really enjoyed.
Speaker 2: One woman even sent me a voice message. I didn't
Speaker 2: know you could do that on Instagram. It freaked me out.
Speaker 2: I was like, do I press play? And then what happens?
Speaker 2: She's talking to me. It's like an Instagram voicemail, like
Speaker 2: just just sharing. It was so all these heartfelt messages
Speaker 2: and just people pouring out their hearts and telling me
Speaker 2: their personal stories of struggling with those early weeks of motherhood.
Speaker 2: So I really really appreciate it. Thank you guys for
Speaker 2: hearing me. I had a little bit of a vulnerability hangover.
Speaker 2: Do you know that expression? Do you follow Berne Brown? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's her her. She writes about vulnerability and I was like,
Speaker 2: being vulnerable as a leader and stuff, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is what a vulnerability hangover feels. Like you cry
Speaker 2: in your national podcast and just live with that for
Speaker 2: a week. And y'all know I edit the show, so
Speaker 2: I was my finger was itching delete, but no, I
Speaker 2: mean I had to stand in my truth and thank
Speaker 2: y'all for hearing me. And I was just talking to
Speaker 2: Tiff because right now I'm getting that itch to go
Speaker 2: back to work or just you know, it's it's hard
Speaker 2: when you are at a level of productivity and like
Speaker 2: with your career. You know, Tiff, you're thinking about having
Speaker 2: a family too, so it's like, how will you juggle
Speaker 2: the person you were?
Speaker 1: Who? Really?
Speaker 2: Just I mean, I love my calendar was my favorite thing.
Speaker 2: I love a packed calendar. I love to know every
Speaker 2: half hour chunk of my day and what was what
Speaker 2: I was gonna do. And this life of eat, sleep, poop, eat, sleep, poop, cry, eat,
Speaker 2: you know, eat, sleep, poop, like that monotony is just
Speaker 2: I guess I'm at that point in the attorney leave
Speaker 2: where it's just like, oh, I my brain can do
Speaker 2: more than this, Like where are my tasks? And my
Speaker 2: therapist was telling me, like I see this woman like
Speaker 2: you all the time. You look for things that you
Speaker 2: can do on top of keeping the baby, alive every
Speaker 2: day just to like reach your productivity, just so you
Speaker 2: can feel like you're productive. And she's like, you got
Speaker 2: to stop, like keeping the baby alive. That takes all
Speaker 2: the mental energy, and you're just setting yourself up for
Speaker 2: disappointment when you feel like you didn't accomplish anything from
Speaker 2: day to day. And that's when I'm like trying to
Speaker 2: make peace with that, trying to like, Okay, no, I
Speaker 2: didn't unload the dishwasher. Yes, the laundry is still like
Speaker 2: not even in a basket, just sprawl across the floor.
Speaker 2: I mean, my closet is just like a landmine of
Speaker 2: just nursing pad and nursing tops and like just crap
Speaker 2: onesies and whatever else on the floor. And I've had
Speaker 2: to kind of just okay, not everything got done, but
Speaker 2: the baby is sleeping and fed and happy, and you
Speaker 2: know what, that's the stamp of approval. Day to day.
Speaker 2: I sound like I've made I've worked it out, but
Speaker 2: I'm still struggling with the whole you know, that's feeling
Speaker 2: I'm not productive.
Speaker 1: Watching you because i I'm to be fully transparent, so
Speaker 1: I took you know, it's been two years. Have you
Speaker 1: been listening to brown and vision, which I'm sure you have.
Speaker 1: It's been two years of like back to back IVF,
Speaker 1: like I stopped traveling, I stopped speaking as much. I
Speaker 1: said no to a lot of things so I could
Speaker 1: be home and still no baby. So that part it's
Speaker 1: been kind of stressful. And then in December I had
Speaker 1: it was a December, I think it was December. I
Speaker 1: had another scar removal surgery. Because some people like keloid
Speaker 1: on the outside, Apparently I scar easily on the inside.
Speaker 1: So I found out two years ago I had fibroids
Speaker 1: because I had a miss carriage and so I knew
Speaker 1: when I was pregnant. I was like, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: did not know I had fiveboids until like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm spotting. So I went to the emergency room and
Speaker 1: they were like, we don't see anything but the fibroids.
Speaker 1: They couldn't even see the baby. That's how many fibrids
Speaker 1: I had. And so that's when I had my fiber
Speaker 1: removal surgery. And when I did, my gynecologists was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're thirty eight, and if you're wanted to
Speaker 1: have a baby, I would stack the odds in your
Speaker 1: favor and not just try naturally, I would, you know,
Speaker 1: use the help of a fertility doctor. And I said okay,
Speaker 1: And that's when I found out like all these other
Speaker 1: things that are like one, I guess I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's hereditary or whatever, but my eggs I don't
Speaker 1: have the level and quality of eggs that I that
Speaker 1: the average woman of my age has. So I guess
Speaker 1: to make it like, you know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: age you could say, but I'm forty, but maybe my
Speaker 1: eggs would would skew like more true for forty five
Speaker 1: year old as you know, as women your eggs, you know,
Speaker 1: so as a result, I'm not as fertile as you
Speaker 1: would think. Like at thirty eight, it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I should still be relatively fertile, but I had a
Speaker 1: low I think it was called HG HSG. HG, don't
Speaker 1: get me to it's something with h Basically my levels
Speaker 1: were low. And it was like, so, then, no, I
Speaker 1: think it's HSG. I want to say something.
Speaker 2: Like HSGA hormone. I should know these things something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's basically like my hormone level is low
Speaker 1: for my age range. So then it was especially like
Speaker 1: you need to use a fertility clinic because not that
Speaker 1: I can't get pregnant naturally, but it's going to be
Speaker 1: much much, much harder. And if I was twenty one,
Speaker 1: then it would be fine. You have all these years,
Speaker 1: but at thirty eight, it's like, you know, you're it's ticking,
Speaker 1: and so like stacked the odds in your favor. So
Speaker 1: we did you know, I've gone through the process of
Speaker 1: removing the fibroids, and then once you removed the fibroids,
Speaker 1: my uterus like I had too much scar tissue as
Speaker 1: a result because I had a lot of fibroids, So
Speaker 1: we removed the scar tissue. Scar tissued again. The scar
Speaker 1: tissue propped open the universe with an iu iud Like
Speaker 1: you know, it looks like a little umbrella, kind of
Speaker 1: like the inside of an umbrella that if you were
Speaker 1: to take off. Yeah, so the prop me open so
Speaker 1: that way it can heal without the without scarring together,
Speaker 1: because your skin wants to fuse together, like whenever skin
Speaker 1: is raw and open. So that's what my units was doing.
Speaker 1: And but in the meantime I was doing cycles and
Speaker 1: cycles or when they basically pump me with a bunch
Speaker 1: of hormones. So when you're after your period comes and
Speaker 1: your normal ovulation cycle happens. Instead of producing one egg,
Speaker 1: you produce multiple eggs. Now, someone a woman of my age,
Speaker 1: when I was thirty eight, I would have on average,
Speaker 1: like eight follicles, and you produce eight eggs. I had four,
Speaker 1: and so I was producing four follicles, and I was
Speaker 1: producing three to four eggs every cycle. But then I
Speaker 1: got pregnant again from but this time with IVF, and
Speaker 1: then I had another miscarriage, and they're like, okay, let's
Speaker 1: test this embryo. An embryo is just a mixer, like
Speaker 1: it's like a pre baby almost. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the sperm and the and the egg before it's like
Speaker 1: fully coming to baby. And it turned out that that
Speaker 1: baby had UH chromosomal issues, which is not uncommon for
Speaker 1: an older woman, you know what I mean, Like if
Speaker 1: I was into my late for so so this it
Speaker 1: was really like evidence then like okay, your eggs are
Speaker 1: not as healthy as they as they could be. And
Speaker 1: so every single psycho since then I have paid an
Speaker 1: additional amount of money to test the embryo because usually
Speaker 1: you don't have to test it. What happens is they
Speaker 1: put an embryo inside you. Your body does the rest.
Speaker 1: Your body says good, bad, let it go whatever. But
Speaker 1: for me, because I know that, you know, my equality
Speaker 1: is not so great, I don't want to waste like
Speaker 1: the time and putting in an embryo that is not healthy,
Speaker 1: because what my body is going to do is I'm
Speaker 1: going to carry. And what happened with my last miscarriage,
Speaker 1: it caused scar tissue. So then I had another two
Speaker 1: scar tissue. So it's like it took me almost a
Speaker 1: year to recover from the physically inside recover from the
Speaker 1: last miscarriage because of the scar tissue. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't have a year if you put in an
Speaker 1: embryo that is not going to be healthy and my
Speaker 1: body's going to reject anyway. So we need to know
Speaker 1: ahead of time. So I've done like four or five
Speaker 1: different cycles, honestly, and like at like out of maybe
Speaker 1: ten to twelve embryos, I have one healthy embryo. The
Speaker 1: last cycle we did, none of them were healthy and
Speaker 1: then they found more scar tissue. I'm like, oh my god, honestly,
Speaker 1: and so in January I was like I step away,
Speaker 1: like it's too much.
Speaker 2: It's a lot that's at just take up. I mean,
Speaker 2: I just wanted a moment to acknowledge the work you
Speaker 2: are putting in, Like that's a lot of silent work
Speaker 2: and a lot of silent I mean, I can't even imagine.
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine even doing all this for so long, and.
Speaker 1: It's just been like so like of course frustrating. So
Speaker 1: I was like in January, I was like, okay, I
Speaker 1: So I called my doctor and I was like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I need a break because it's been two years. She's like,
Speaker 1: and I's like, my joice, do I need to lose weight? Try?
Speaker 1: Because you remember that's why I had gone vegan. Like
Speaker 1: I was like, whatever it takes, Like I don't want
Speaker 1: to look back twenty years from now and say, dank, Tiffany.
Speaker 1: You really could have went on one less vacation or
Speaker 1: said no to that speaking engagement and really put the
Speaker 1: energy into having a family. And so I didn't want that,
Speaker 1: you know. Like, so I was like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do all that I'm supposed to do. And she's like, tify,
Speaker 1: you've been my doctor was telling my fertility doctor, you
Speaker 1: have been a model patient. You've come to every you know,
Speaker 1: you haven't missed any shots. And you know you've come
Speaker 1: to every appointment. You know, you you you have, you know,
Speaker 1: you've been a model patient. If there was something I
Speaker 1: could say, do this better so to make it, She's like,
Speaker 1: but I can't, and so she's like, I think it
Speaker 1: is a good idea for you to take a break.
Speaker 1: So I took January kind of like off, just to
Speaker 1: because the what what a cycle looks like is that
Speaker 1: you're giving yourself a shot every morning, every evening. Then
Speaker 1: every other day you're at the doctor. Well for my doctor,
Speaker 1: they do they do something called like pre appointments at
Speaker 1: six thirty am, and so women who are doing the cycle,
Speaker 1: it's like you have to get blood drawn and you
Speaker 1: have to do basically when do you go to the guy? Now,
Speaker 1: what is it when they're basically like looking in the
Speaker 1: side of your regina? Yes, basically can you imagine that every
Speaker 1: other day blood like the blood drawn. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I take my blood. It's nothing in comparison to like
Speaker 1: every other morning at six am, crawling out of bed,
Speaker 1: waiting on the cold steps with like all these other women.
Speaker 1: You just kind of looking at each other like hi, Maria, Hi,
Speaker 1: and you're waiting for them to open the doors, turn
Speaker 1: on the lights before the office even opens so they
Speaker 1: could draw your blood, which, like I said to me,
Speaker 1: that's the easy part. But then for me to lay
Speaker 1: legs cocked open, for you to put metal inside me,
Speaker 1: for you to look again, and it's just like it's
Speaker 1: just so I just like I I just need it.
Speaker 1: I just need a break. So I was good at
Speaker 1: like I said, at first January. Then I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna start back again until April.
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna And then I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, maybe I won't even have a baby. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll just But then I see Roman and Amelia, my
Speaker 1: niece and my nephew, and I'm like, I really like
Speaker 1: I want that, you know, like and but then there's
Speaker 1: also this fear that like I am super driven, so
Speaker 1: I'm scared like, well, like, you know, I see the
Speaker 1: struggle you're going through, Manny, and I feel like as
Speaker 1: it relates to like our careers and how much we
Speaker 1: love the work, like I'm scared, like what if what
Speaker 1: does that look like? On the other side, Like am
Speaker 1: I gonna be able to adjust because of how much
Speaker 1: I really enjoy doing and being the budget the still
Speaker 1: so that part is also scary too. So I've been vacillating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: back and forth.
Speaker 2: We have to I'm not back in the work. I'm
Speaker 2: not back at work yet, but yes I will address
Speaker 2: because if I don't, I will go insane, and I
Speaker 2: think you will too. The survival is that is figuring
Speaker 2: out how do you stay true? How do you And
Speaker 2: this is just me speaking to my future self. I
Speaker 2: know that I've obviously life has changed, priorities have change,
Speaker 2: but you still have to You still have to do
Speaker 2: what drives you and what speaks to your soul and
Speaker 2: what makes you who you are at your core, the
Speaker 2: important things, you know, not the extra stuff you can
Speaker 2: say no to this or that, but like the core
Speaker 2: of what you do. And I just feel like and
Speaker 2: especially for you as an entrepreneur, I've heard time and
Speaker 2: again I know people with similar you know, structured like
Speaker 2: businesses like yours sometimes say children make you work more efficiently,
Speaker 2: can make more, can make you more uh, can make
Speaker 2: you more driven and and and make you request more
Speaker 2: for what you do so that you earn more than
Speaker 2: you used to. I just and maybe this has comfort,
Speaker 2: maybe it's not comforting, but I feel like we have to.
Speaker 2: We have to find a way to do the work
Speaker 2: and do the mothering thing, or else we just won't
Speaker 2: be happy. And you know who wants to have an
Speaker 2: unhappy an unhappy wife and an unhappy mom. It's not
Speaker 2: just it's just gonna drag the whole household. So I mean,
Speaker 2: drag the whole household down.
Speaker 1: So I just like so, I honestly I decided because
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait
Speaker 1: to push you back, push it back, and push it back.
Speaker 1: And then really this weekend I was just really thinking
Speaker 1: about it. My niece and my nephew came over it,
Speaker 1: and it was just like they're just so awesome, you know,
Speaker 1: like the two and two and four, such great agents.
Speaker 1: They're fun, they talk, they they joke like, you know, yes,
Speaker 1: even though like a million to wipe my butt, and
Speaker 1: she calls me Auntie Poopy to be funny, like Auntie Poopy,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, it's just it's just everything. They
Speaker 1: are everything. And I thought like, I, yes, Tiffany, you
Speaker 1: do want this. I get the frustration, but I'm not
Speaker 1: we haven't come this far to give up. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: so I actually have to call my fertility doctor again. Uh.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to call today but I didn't. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call tomorrow to say, Okay, what's next. I'm praying
Speaker 1: that this last scar tissue has really move the last
Speaker 1: scars that were inside my uterus, because what happens with
Speaker 1: when you think about scars too, you should think about
Speaker 1: it as like almost like a scab that's holding part
Speaker 1: of your uterus together, and so you want an open,
Speaker 1: clear uterus so that way the baby has full space
Speaker 1: to grow. But you've got like it's not like a
Speaker 1: scab on the roof on the side, it's the scab,
Speaker 1: it's holding one it's connecting one side of your unius
Speaker 1: to the other. So almost like like so it's like
Speaker 1: a balloon that you squeezed in the middle, so there's
Speaker 1: no space for a baby to grow on one side
Speaker 1: of the bubble of the balloon or the other side
Speaker 1: of the bubble of the boom. So they have to
Speaker 1: remove that. And so I'm hoping that you know, when
Speaker 1: they go to look that they're like, yeah, it's all clear,
Speaker 1: which is great. So I've already told myself, like I
Speaker 1: have three options. I'm gonna do one more cycle because
Speaker 1: if I you know, by now, if I do a
Speaker 1: cycle and that we don't have any healthy embryos, and
Speaker 1: it just means that my body's been basically like you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know that the medicine is just not working.
Speaker 1: And then if that cycle doesn't yield any good embryos,
Speaker 1: I I still I do have one good embryo from
Speaker 1: like a year ago that we froze, and so I'm
Speaker 1: then after that, I'll just have them put that embryo in.
Speaker 1: If this cycle doesn't yield any fresh embryos, they'll put
Speaker 1: that embryo in and then prayerfully that embryo takes if
Speaker 1: the cycle, the next cycle doesn't yield anything, and then
Speaker 1: if that doesn't happen, I just told myself honestly, I
Speaker 1: think I'm just gonna try my hand at just us
Speaker 1: trying naturally with a clear fiboard free scar tissue free uterus.
Speaker 1: So that's like the third because you can't try naturally
Speaker 1: while you're doing IVF because they do test things sometimes
Speaker 1: that could hurt a child if you don't even know
Speaker 1: you're pregnant. So let's just say me and Jerella trying
Speaker 1: like naturally, and I happen to be pregnant and in
Speaker 1: three days and I don't even know. But then I
Speaker 1: go to the doctor and sometimes they do this thing
Speaker 1: where it's called the high hydro something where they literally
Speaker 1: fill your unius with water so they can see it fully,
Speaker 1: so you don't want to drown your potential baby, you know.
Speaker 2: So you can't realize all that.
Speaker 1: Man, Oh my gosh, like this. There's one where they
Speaker 1: literally put ink inside you so and it like burns
Speaker 1: so they can see they can get a picture, like
Speaker 1: a clear picture of what your unus is looking like,
Speaker 1: so they can see all the scar tissues. When I
Speaker 1: tell you, whoo, if it wasn't for the budgetista, like
Speaker 1: I put it like in a section of my head
Speaker 1: of like like like on to do list, go to
Speaker 1: the doctor in the morning, let them look in your
Speaker 1: vagina for the thousand times. Then I come home. Then
Speaker 1: I you know, like I because if not, it just
Speaker 1: will make you crazy. Like even hearing it coming from
Speaker 1: my mouth, I'm like, yo, this sounds crazy. But you
Speaker 1: can't look at it like that or you won't do it.
Speaker 1: And so but not everyone. So here's the thing. A
Speaker 1: friend of mine she did one cycle got pregnant, boom.
Speaker 1: So IVF doesn't look like this for everyone, Like I'm
Speaker 1: just having a harder time than most. Quite honestly, it's
Speaker 1: it's they say, IVF is typically sixty percent successful. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and not everyone sticks with it, honestly, because I'm really fortunate,
Speaker 1: which I'm grateful of is that a superman might my husband,
Speaker 1: his his benefits cover everything. I pay a ten dollars copay.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I go to see the doctor, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I've even spent two hundred dollars extraordinary, I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: the blessing I'm blessed Mary, yeah m hm. So whenever
Speaker 1: I'm feeling super overwhelmed, I remind myself, like Tiffany, like
Speaker 1: you have probably spent over two hundred thousand not probably,
Speaker 1: but this process would have cost me out of pocket
Speaker 1: over two hundred thousand dollars already already if if like
Speaker 1: you know, because I'll see the medicine. Sometimes the medicine
Speaker 1: list will come up and it'll say, all of these
Speaker 1: shots and everything, we're sending you eighty thousand dollars, but
Speaker 1: your your call pay for the medicine zero dollars. I
Speaker 1: don't even pay for the medicine. Yeah, so as much
Speaker 1: like you know, you don't have to cry for me, Argentina,
Speaker 1: because I know it's hard, but I live a really
Speaker 1: blessed fortunate life because so many women don't have access
Speaker 1: to healthcare that would take care of this for them.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, pray for me. I feel hopeful
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, I do have one good embryo.
Speaker 1: My body has shown twice that it can indeed be pregnant.
Speaker 1: It's just like, I'm just creating the ideal environment and
Speaker 1: we already we have a healthy embryo. So even if
Speaker 1: this cycle doesn't yield a healthy embryo, that we do
Speaker 1: have one that we can implant and pray, pray, pray, pray,
Speaker 1: pray over it and not go anywhere and stay home
Speaker 1: and relax and utsa and yeah.
Speaker 2: But I just think they are goddamn superhero because that
Speaker 2: it just I mean. And you know, and I've been
Speaker 2: following Amy Schumer and I know she's going through She's
Speaker 2: like sharing her IVF journey right now, and she's like,
Speaker 2: first of all, her Instagram page is hilarious. She's like
Speaker 2: the raw real motherhood anyway. But like the work that
Speaker 2: you're doing and so many women are doing too to
Speaker 2: have children, Like it's it's extraordinary and I want it for.
Speaker 1: You so bad and also you're going through it like
Speaker 1: you know, I know sometimes like the secret shame and
Speaker 1: sometimes you just I share because and what I love honestly,
Speaker 1: ib our listens are so awesome because nobody hits me
Speaker 1: in the DMS and says, so it's got all the baby,
Speaker 1: So it's gonna because you guys have been so awesome
Speaker 1: in like letting me share when I want to share,
Speaker 1: and then when I don't, leaving it alone because sometimes
Speaker 1: it's too overwhelming. So so honestly, like our listeners been have
Speaker 1: been so so amazing that when I share, they reach out,
Speaker 1: you know, they you know, they ask me questions and
Speaker 1: then when I don't like I said, they leave it.
Speaker 1: And so that's been really great because sometimes it can
Speaker 1: be really like overwhelming, like when someone's asking you know,
Speaker 1: when you're like, especially if you had a really bad
Speaker 1: doubt or you have you got the news, oh you
Speaker 1: need another scar movers surgery, and you're Likejesus, suck how
Speaker 1: many times you have to go down under Naesi? Because
Speaker 1: when you have to go under anesthesia, like put you
Speaker 1: to sleep, and you know that's a risk. Every time
Speaker 1: you get put to sleep, there is a chance you
Speaker 1: will not wake up. And so like it's just you know,
Speaker 1: so some days you have those days and you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to freak of talk about it, and
Speaker 1: other days I'm like, I don't mind talking about it
Speaker 1: because I know that somebody out there might need to
Speaker 1: hear it. But yeah, so when when we all have
Speaker 1: this baby, because this is our baby now, when she
Speaker 1: comes or he comes into existence, I swear I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be telling this story to them. They're eighty.
Speaker 2: I let them talk back to you once. That's how
Speaker 2: I feel the first time they give you attitude. Look here,
Speaker 2: you old.
Speaker 1: I know you don't even understand, but let me tell you,
Speaker 1: I worked for two years, longer than your life is
Speaker 1: as existed, to make sure that you were here now.
Speaker 1: But I think about it, but then I still feel
Speaker 1: hope because I found out for my mom that she
Speaker 1: struggled like with having because I'm one of five kids,
Speaker 1: and like they told her before my first sister was born,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen for you. Like you you know,
Speaker 1: these are the issues that you're having and she has
Speaker 1: five kids. I'm not trying to have nobody's five kids.
Speaker 1: But I just thought about that. She just reminded me
Speaker 1: of that I didn't know that. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: she had fertility issues and stuff and they told her
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna happen and her hips were wide enough,
Speaker 1: this other stuff they told her, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm baby number two or five, So you
Speaker 1: know that at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 1: doctors don't always have the final say at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. You know, you know your body and
Speaker 1: whatever higher source you believe in that has the final say.
Speaker 1: So I know that's been pretty heavy, but like, actually
Speaker 1: I feel good. I feel I've been wanting to share,
Speaker 1: like kind of like where I was in the journey,
Speaker 1: especially now that I feel like rejuvenated to go back
Speaker 1: to it. I feel in a good space with it,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't want to go back begrudgingly, and I'm
Speaker 1: not so thank you for letting me, Samandra.
Speaker 2: How could I not thank you for sharing? Thank you.
Speaker 1: Now that we baby y'all out, you can ask us
Speaker 1: any question that you may have about career, personal finance, family. Actually,
Speaker 1: a friend of mine asked me a really good question
Speaker 1: about and we should maybe do a show on this, Amandy,
Speaker 1: about how to navigate marriage and money. So a friend
Speaker 1: who's recently got married asked how I was doing it
Speaker 1: with Superman. So I just gave her kind of like
Speaker 1: what we do and you know, but there's no wrong
Speaker 1: or right way. But I think that would just be
Speaker 1: an awesome like marriage and money kind of like.
Speaker 2: A So that's a very broad question.
Speaker 1: M I think we should have that, And if you
Speaker 1: guys have marriage and money questions, to send them in.
Speaker 2: But while you explained, because you know what I thought
Speaker 2: I knew, and.
Speaker 1: No, Mandy, you have to insight.
Speaker 2: Nope, no I don't, No, I don't.
Speaker 1: That's because you have a kid.
Speaker 2: Now, talk about how husband decided that having a baby
Speaker 2: was a good time to get all of his dental
Speaker 2: work done, all of it every other day, gotta get
Speaker 2: another crown. I'm like, how much are these crowns on?
Speaker 1: What's out of your mouth?
Speaker 2: Why don't you brush your teeth for I've been telling
Speaker 2: you for eight years?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, that's a great idea for a show, pro show.
Speaker 2: Let's not tackle it today.
Speaker 1: Because today. So yeah, no, I would love yes. Send
Speaker 1: your questions, send your comments, your concerns to us, and
Speaker 1: Mandy's going to drop them.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'll tell you how to do that. You
Speaker 2: may go to Brannanbision podcast dot com ask us anything there,
Speaker 2: or you can hit us up on Instagram. We are
Speaker 2: at the b Wait No, oh crap, what am I
Speaker 2: Tiffany today? Mommy brain? We are at brann and Vision
Speaker 2: podcast on Instagram and also our email address is Brandnavision
Speaker 2: Podcast at gmail dot com. I had to really work
Speaker 2: hard for that. Wow, it's just not roll off the
Speaker 2: tongue I've you used to. All Right. I do have
Speaker 2: a couple of love like questions thinking one from the email,
Speaker 2: one from the Graham Today. Let's see this one comes
Speaker 2: from Okay. She wants to be called Mispace. Okay, miss Pace,
Speaker 2: She says, love your show. You guys are both my
Speaker 2: besties in my head. I got married in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: the year before you guys did, and I'm a few
Speaker 2: weeks from delivering my first baby. Who is she delivered herself?
Speaker 2: That's exciting you all say what I'm thinking and have
Speaker 2: awesome solutions. My question is this I'm a budding entrepreneur, which,
Speaker 2: as you know, means I don't have maternity leave. I've
Speaker 2: been paying into a short term disability coverage policy since
Speaker 2: a year ago under the impression that it covered maternity leave. However,
Speaker 2: I've now found out that I'd only be covered if
Speaker 2: there was a complication in my pregnancy, which means I've
Speaker 2: wasted a year of paying into this policy. After all
Speaker 2: this drama going back and forth, I no longer want
Speaker 2: a policy, and I was thinking if there are other
Speaker 2: ways I can say for future baby number two in
Speaker 2: two years and one questions and suggestion and one of
Speaker 2: suggestions on whether I should do a mutual fund or
Speaker 2: a CD what would be best that would give me
Speaker 2: some decent interest for my money. That's a good So
Speaker 2: the entrepreneur is saving to have a baby. That's an
Speaker 2: interesting comp because you don't have maternity leaves, you have
Speaker 2: to like, yeah, I'm sure you can talk about that.
Speaker 2: But essentially the question is, so, she's about to have
Speaker 2: a baby soon, but she's looking at creating kind of
Speaker 2: some kind of savings fund. I guess that she plans
Speaker 2: to tap into in a couple of years. M h, yeah,
Speaker 2: So the best way to save for that for something
Speaker 2: that would be kind of short term like that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: do you want to talk about what you how you've
Speaker 2: sort of approached it since you've got your own business
Speaker 2: and you're also planning to have a baby.
Speaker 1: Well, what I did was I actually created a fund
Speaker 1: called I call it super Baby because you know I
Speaker 1: call Superman Superman and our bonus daughter, well his daughter,
Speaker 1: my bonest daughter, Supergirl, a Lissa Supergirl. And so I like,
Speaker 1: I started off with jess an online only savings account
Speaker 1: and I named it super Baby, and I just started
Speaker 1: putting money into that online only savings account. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I met with Angelie, my financial planner, and
Speaker 1: she was like, well, let's put this into a mutual
Speaker 1: fund so, you know, so that way it can grow.
Speaker 1: And what I would suggested if you can't know for
Speaker 1: sure obviously when you're gonna get pregnant, but if you
Speaker 1: wanted to create like a like to get a target
Speaker 1: date fund, so let's just say you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: want to start again in two years or two years
Speaker 1: is when you're anticipating the next baby, So picking kind
Speaker 1: of like that year as your target date, and you know,
Speaker 1: putting your money in a mutual fund that's also a
Speaker 1: target date fund, So as you get closer and closer
Speaker 1: to that baby coming to fruition, your money is is
Speaker 1: being preserved, your capital is being preserved because the way
Speaker 1: a target date fund works, I think we mentioned this
Speaker 1: last episode, is that the closer you get to the
Speaker 1: target date, the more conservative your investments automatically rebalance themselves
Speaker 1: to be so that way, when you're ready to take
Speaker 1: the money, you're not in some sort of like riskier
Speaker 1: investment that does yield a risk potential bigger return, but
Speaker 1: at least you know you'll be able to actually take
Speaker 1: the money that's currently they're out fairly safely. So that's
Speaker 1: what I would look for. That's what I've done with
Speaker 1: super Baby is a target Well I haven't done a
Speaker 1: target date fund, but I've done a mutual fund because
Speaker 1: I don't have a target date because I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: who knows where, like what's going to happen for me.
Speaker 1: But that's what I would suggest. And then this current
Speaker 1: when I'm like, uh, how frustrating to have paid into
Speaker 1: something thinking it's one thing and it's like, nah's not,
Speaker 1: which is so crazy. I'm assuming she's with, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't I even know that some policies. I didn't
Speaker 2: even know that short term disability, because you're right, I mean,
Speaker 2: when I went on maternity leave, it's considered a short
Speaker 2: term disability leave, like it's a I'm a disabled person
Speaker 2: and that's kind of what I have to file for whatever.
Speaker 2: So I guess that would make sense. But I didn't realize,
Speaker 2: like if you were buying your own policy, that it
Speaker 2: might cover, like it might pay out for a maternity leave.
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard of that before. Maybe there are some
Speaker 2: policies like that. I don't know, have you heard about
Speaker 2: anything like that?
Speaker 1: No? Actually I had it, Like I mean, I've heard
Speaker 1: of course of short term disability, and I have disability
Speaker 1: like that I pay out of pocket for myself that
Speaker 1: I got like you know, like in my twenties or
Speaker 1: thirties or whatever. But I did I didn't even know
Speaker 1: that disability cover quite honestly, maternity leave or you could
Speaker 1: get disability for maternity leave. So now the question is
Speaker 1: to ask yourself, is is there a policy that definitively
Speaker 1: does cover maternity leave? And to get that, you know,
Speaker 1: to research and find that policy for this for this
Speaker 1: upcoming baby after this first one.
Speaker 2: Even does though you think if she's having the baby soon,
Speaker 2: like would she be able to pay into it for
Speaker 2: such a short amount of time and then be able
Speaker 2: to cash into it. That seems a little like well.
Speaker 1: I was thinking more so like that that that that
Speaker 1: would be for baby too.
Speaker 2: Oh she could say, Oh, you're right. You weren't even
Speaker 2: reading her question, but you woulder stood it.
Speaker 1: There that I did. I'm like two years from now.
Speaker 2: But do you know how the gestation period for one?
Speaker 2: You're right, she's talking about for the next one. Oh ya, girl,
Speaker 2: how do you listen? Take it from me, have the
Speaker 2: first one first, and then because number I have removed
Speaker 2: the number two out of my dictionary, out of my vocabulary,
Speaker 2: I don't even talk about anything that has to do
Speaker 2: with number two anymore. Thanks, So I totally woo okay,
Speaker 2: I'm back on track. Continue, Tiffany, you can run the
Speaker 2: show for the rest.
Speaker 1: Of the show. So that's what I meant about the
Speaker 1: mutual fund, So that would be for baby number two.
Speaker 1: But I would also I would probably do like I said,
Speaker 1: like a target date fund for baby number two, just
Speaker 1: to be ready for baby number two, but for baby
Speaker 1: number one. I would also open up just a mutual
Speaker 1: fund for that baby, just like for future things like college.
Speaker 1: So you can do a target date fund for a
Speaker 1: baby that's coming now baby number one and I have
Speaker 1: the target date be eighteen years from now, seventeen years
Speaker 1: from now, so for college. So both of the baby's
Speaker 1: the one that's currently here basically almost and the baby
Speaker 1: in the future, you can do that for both. But
Speaker 1: now I wanted to just tackle the current disability policy.
Speaker 1: So I don't know for sure what you should do
Speaker 1: with that current disability policy, because one, it might be
Speaker 1: good for other things outside of the baby stuff, which
Speaker 1: is what I know you got it for. At the
Speaker 1: very least, I likely would keep it until after the
Speaker 1: baby comes, because God forbid that there are complications which
Speaker 1: were there's not going to be reclaiming that now, but
Speaker 1: God forbid that something like that that does happen. This
Speaker 1: policy would actually cover that, So I wouldn't want you
Speaker 1: to cancel it before knowing for sure, So that's what
Speaker 1: I would do. I would wait until after baby comes
Speaker 1: and you're healthy and at home and everything's fine, then
Speaker 1: consider cancering that policy and then getting one that's more
Speaker 1: in alignment with what you need, but not before the
Speaker 1: baby comes. So I hope that helps. And congratulations pre.
Speaker 2: Mommy, that's no, that's great. We like and we love
Speaker 2: insurance on this show. We love insurance baby number two.
Speaker 2: Do you hear the background right now? Because it's excellent
Speaker 2: birth control. All right, let's move on to brown Boost,
Speaker 2: Brown Break. We're gonna take a quick break and be right.
Speaker 1: So it's Brad break, Brown booths, brown break, brown boo
Speaker 1: to break. Are you gonna break? Are you gonna not booths?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do well, I'm gonna do an informational break
Speaker 2: from some kind of like some not great news in
Speaker 2: the credit score world. So last week shock waves went
Speaker 2: through the world. Anytime FIKO changes its credit credit score formula,
Speaker 2: you know, nerds like us get at all in a
Speaker 2: titter about this. But basically what's happening is every once
Speaker 2: in a while, FIKO will look at the way that
Speaker 2: it calculates credit scores and it's been This is not
Speaker 2: the first time it's made changes. I believe a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago it changed the way it treated medical
Speaker 2: debt that actually benefited a lot of people. Before the change,
Speaker 2: if you had medical debt, your score could basically be lower,
Speaker 2: but they treated medical debt a little bit more graciously,
Speaker 2: considering it's medical debt, not something like a credit card,
Speaker 2: you know, which you've racked up yourself. A lot of
Speaker 2: people can't control when they get into medical debt, you know.
Speaker 2: So the most recent change has to do with personal loans,
Speaker 2: which may impact a lot of our listeners because personal loans,
Speaker 2: I know from you know, just working where I work,
Speaker 2: we help people find and compare personal loans. They are
Speaker 2: a hugely popular way to borrow money these days, with
Speaker 2: a personal loan. We talk about them all long time
Speaker 2: on the show, right when we recommend, you know, taking
Speaker 2: out a small personal loan from a credit union or
Speaker 2: from an onlinand or wherever to say, consolidate credit card
Speaker 2: debt if you can get a lower credit, if you
Speaker 2: can get a lower interest rate on a personal loan,
Speaker 2: you know, you can use that loan to pay off
Speaker 2: higher interest debt and then you have one loan. Personal
Speaker 2: loans are great because they're fixed, you know, fixed monthly payments,
Speaker 2: and they're fixed aprs, they don't go up and down,
Speaker 2: and you have a fixed repayment term, so you know
Speaker 2: when the end is coming. But what's happened now is
Speaker 2: with the with the new FICO changes. Apparently, if you
Speaker 2: use personal loans in that way to pay off all
Speaker 2: your credit card, all your credit cards in the past,
Speaker 2: that would immediately probably impact your score beneficially because you've
Speaker 2: gotten rid of a bunch of high interest debt and
Speaker 2: you've now got a fixed Damn it. I knew I
Speaker 2: was going to get this wrong because the momy brain. Oh,
Speaker 2: installment loan. Yes, you've got installment debt versus high interest
Speaker 2: revolving debt like a credit Yes, that's why your credit
Speaker 2: score can get boosted by consolidating with a personal loan.
Speaker 2: Under the new formula, FIKO will look back. This is
Speaker 2: according to NPR, FYCO will look back over a period
Speaker 2: of time as far as two years to see whether
Speaker 2: you've used the loan to reduce your high interest credit
Speaker 2: card debt or whether you're using credit cards as much
Speaker 2: as you were before, running up new revolving balances and
Speaker 2: falling deeper into debt. So this is really important because
Speaker 2: we find again you know, lending Tree my company, we
Speaker 2: look at, you know, how do people use personal loans?
Speaker 2: And often you do find people because they have that
Speaker 2: sense of oh, I've gotten this personal loan, I've paid
Speaker 2: off my credit cards. They feel like they're debt free
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like the pressure is off, but
Speaker 2: you're not. You still have the debt. It's just costing
Speaker 2: you less. It's in a different form.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And because.
Speaker 2: You have that sense of like, oh, I'm getting on
Speaker 2: top of my finances, you're like, oh, I'm gonna treat
Speaker 2: myself to this at them all or I'm gonna why
Speaker 2: not take out that new credit card when I you know,
Speaker 2: check out at the Gap or at Kohl's or whatever,
Speaker 2: And before you know it, you haven't fixed the bad
Speaker 2: habits and you have additional credit card debts. So this
Speaker 2: is what that seems like. The FYCO formulas trying to
Speaker 2: get smarter, which makes sense, to not get to look
Speaker 2: at how people and what they're doing after they consolidate
Speaker 2: their with their credit card debt with they personal loan,
Speaker 2: and you can potentially get dinged if you continue racking
Speaker 2: up debt.
Speaker 1: So it's like good for like the medical debt stuff,
Speaker 1: but then maybe not so good with the consolidating personal
Speaker 1: loan debt.
Speaker 2: It's good if you I mean honestly it's still a
Speaker 2: great tool to use to consolidate debt. You know, I'd
Speaker 2: still recommend it as you can get a if you
Speaker 2: can get a lower interest rate than what your credit
Speaker 2: cards have, it totally makes sense. The only thing is
Speaker 2: just be mindful that if you continue racking up credit
Speaker 2: card debt after you've used that personal loan to consolidate,
Speaker 2: FICO will take note of that looking back as far
Speaker 2: as two years, and the boost you may get from
Speaker 2: and from consolidating that debt with a personal loan. Maybe
Speaker 2: count your race. Yeah, I don't know about a race.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say like how we're you know, it's really
Speaker 2: difficult to judge how and what how much of a
Speaker 2: score will go up or down, but it will definitely
Speaker 2: ding you if you go back and start racking up
Speaker 2: credit card debt after you've you set loan to consolidate.
Speaker 1: So to know, yeah, so this is good. So you're right.
Speaker 1: This is like some someplace in between brom boosts and
Speaker 1: broad break. So it's like, you know, I know, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's good though. We have to know because I mean
Speaker 1: that the way you navigate with your credit is, you know,
Speaker 1: it's critical you need credit in this country. You know,
Speaker 1: it can prevent you from getting a home, it can
Speaker 1: prevent you from getting a job, it can prevent you
Speaker 1: from getting utilities turned on. So it's important that you know,
Speaker 1: you know all these things, like you know, I know,
Speaker 1: there's like this brigade of like we don't need credit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, sis, do you live in the usbay because
Speaker 1: you indeed do. You don't have to have like, you know,
Speaker 1: like a ton of credit, but you have to have
Speaker 1: some credit history as an adult unless you're not you're
Speaker 1: purchasing everything with cash, which is definitely possible, but the
Speaker 1: average person is not able to purchase everything with cash.
Speaker 1: And and even then you might have a job that's like Okay,
Speaker 1: you proaches your house, your car, your close everything with cash,
Speaker 1: and your job's like that's cute, but we need to
Speaker 1: see your credit score to see if this is a
Speaker 1: position that we could trust you with. And so there's
Speaker 1: nothing that you can do to side step that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so credit is still an important component of adulting financially,
Speaker 1: So just keeping that in mind. Oh that was good.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually going to brown Boost. So have you
Speaker 1: heard of Unique? Her name is Unique Jones. She is Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard of because of them we can?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I love the Instagram account.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, so positive, so amazing, so delightful. If you
Speaker 1: don't follow literally at because of them you can. And
Speaker 1: so what's so great about because of them you can?
Speaker 1: Is that Unique? I mean especially it's Black History Months,
Speaker 1: so she really celebrates like black excellence and all its
Speaker 1: amazing forms. But Unique recently launched something called culture Tags.
Speaker 1: And the way culture tax works is that it's a
Speaker 1: it's a game, you know how like you ever see
Speaker 1: like people be like T B A to be honest
Speaker 1: or like, you know, it's like get the f out
Speaker 1: of here, G F O T, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So she literally created this really fun game where s
Speaker 1: O T. Sorry, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get the wait
Speaker 1: g T G T because you.
Speaker 2: Don't because you don't curse, you're a little rusty. Where
Speaker 2: is the F go? I know where it goes, but.
Speaker 1: I gotta call you know, he's a potty mouth and
Speaker 1: so I.
Speaker 3: Respect that and so so but it's a fun game
Speaker 3: where the purpose of the game is that you have
Speaker 3: a timer and then you hold up the like you know,
Speaker 3: the acronym is that that's an acronym, right, is that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know what you call them in the you know,
Speaker 2: for text messaging beyond acronym.
Speaker 1: Sure, So baby, it's basically what's she calls them? Just
Speaker 1: a hashtag and so you hold up the hashtag and
Speaker 1: you have a certain amount of time to guess what
Speaker 1: it is. And what I really love is that she
Speaker 1: has categories. So she's like categories Church, categories black Mama,
Speaker 1: because they have one where it's like do you have
Speaker 1: McDonald's money, which is hilarious. So I love that she
Speaker 1: breaks it down into culturally relevant things for black culture.
Speaker 1: And then you have to guess what the hashtag is.
Speaker 1: And if you go to culture tags at culture tags
Speaker 1: on Instagram, you can see like videos and people playing
Speaker 1: and it's so it looks so fun. And I share
Speaker 1: this because Unique just launched a Kickstarter to bring this
Speaker 1: game to life. I think she was asking for fifteen thousand.
Speaker 1: As of right now, she already has twenty two thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: and if she reaches like thirty five thousand, she gives
Speaker 1: like additional gifts to people who've donated, so I think
Speaker 1: she still has another like twenty days or something to go.
Speaker 1: She got fully funded day one, but she's like, look
Speaker 1: if they get even more funding and mean even more
Speaker 1: goodies for people who have back it, I highly suggest.
Speaker 1: Like I love games, and so I have like taboo
Speaker 1: at the house. We have uno, we play cards, so
Speaker 1: I literally have like a game closet because as a kid,
Speaker 1: we always play games as when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: So I love having games in the house so when
Speaker 1: friends come over, we can have fun. So I backed
Speaker 1: the project so I can get like the game in
Speaker 1: my house. But honestly, what I tell you, like looking
Speaker 1: at the videos of live people playing it, it looks
Speaker 1: so much fun. I cannot wait to play. So it's called.
Speaker 2: Culture tags culture Okay, So.
Speaker 1: What you can do is you can go to kickstarter
Speaker 1: dot com and just like typing culture tags and it
Speaker 1: should come up. Or you can just go to culture
Speaker 1: tags on ig and like and in the culture tag
Speaker 1: like a you could pre order the game be a Kickstarter,
Speaker 1: like the link is in her ig bio in the
Speaker 1: culture tag ig bio. But yeah, honestly, it just looks
Speaker 1: like so much fun and like like like.
Speaker 2: Got McDonald's money. It kind of reminds me of like
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like getting a sense of like black
Speaker 2: Jeopardy from the category is we got food at home?
Speaker 1: Literally like that right, Like how fun is that? And
Speaker 1: so like, like I said, I love the fact that
Speaker 1: she breaks down the categories like you know, like things
Speaker 1: black moms say, black church, and so like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just she just said that because I spoke to
Speaker 1: like we were like messaging back and forth, and she
Speaker 1: said she created it because she was inspired by black Twitter,
Speaker 1: because you know, black Twitter is hilarious and they have
Speaker 1: just created such an amazing like, well we have this
Speaker 1: amazing black culture that black Twitter really just displays just
Speaker 1: how funny, how sharp, how witty we are, whitty we are.
Speaker 1: And she noticed that like we were using like these
Speaker 1: hashtags in such a way that it was just hilarious
Speaker 1: that like, especially if you're black, they especially mean something
Speaker 1: to you because it's just certain ways that we talk
Speaker 1: and that we are. And she was like, like one
Speaker 1: of my favorites in the video. So it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: I think it's like I forget the category. I think
Speaker 1: the category is like black man or something like that,
Speaker 1: and it's like you know what men say when they
Speaker 1: see each other, and I forget the acronym don't get
Speaker 1: me to asking, but it's like, oh, this is I've
Speaker 1: seen Jerrelle do this with like with like his friends,
Speaker 1: Like you know, his friends will say like, how you doing.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, just trying to get like you. So
Speaker 1: it's like just j T G. You know, I would
Speaker 1: never think of that because I'm like, I'm not a dude,
Speaker 1: but I like all the men in the audience when
Speaker 1: they played were like Rory and they all knew what
Speaker 1: it was. And man, it just looks like a fun game.
Speaker 1: Unique is like a rock star. I don't know how
Speaker 1: she developed this, created it. It looks the game itself
Speaker 1: looks like you could buy this game at Target from
Speaker 1: Milton Bradley, Like it already looks so well polished. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm just sharing that because I think we you know,
Speaker 1: we we love black and Brown excellenteer at Brown Ambition,
Speaker 1: and you know Unique has already displayed that with because
Speaker 1: of them, we can. But now with culture tags, you
Speaker 1: can bring a little more culture and fun into your home. Kickstarter.
Speaker 1: Just go to culture tag and like I said, I
Speaker 1: read across it and I was like, oh and I
Speaker 1: ordered it, and yeah, I'm just excited. So I figured
Speaker 1: I share because I have my own kickstarted coming up,
Speaker 1: so I'm extra hyper sensitive to supporting other people in
Speaker 1: their kickstarter journey.
Speaker 2: Yes, gets like a kickstarter a juju out there? Good energy.
Speaker 2: Now that sounds so much fun. Awesome. All right, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go play a game of Catch the Screaming Baby. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let see who wins. Usually nobody but the baby. Ah,
Speaker 2: melatonin or two so I can get some shut eye.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good night.
Speaker 1: Like girl that meltone. I told Carol about it. She's
Speaker 1: a girl. Thank you. These gummies are everything.
Speaker 2: Oh they had gummies. I'm using like an expired bottle
Speaker 2: that I forgot. I had my friend because I was
Speaker 2: complaining about my friends like use of melatonin.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, like because I honestly, I'm not
Speaker 1: really good with pills. So whenever possible, I try to
Speaker 1: take a gummy of any pill that I need to take,
Speaker 1: if possible orchewable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can consult your medical professional. I'm not endorsing any
Speaker 2: you know, but for me, melatonin expired from May twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Does a truck make I refuse to buy a new
Speaker 2: bottles cheap? How many I've been you should see my
Speaker 2: search history. How many melatonin do you need to take?
Speaker 2: If it's expound like that.
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: So I should be okay. Oh but honestly, look like
Speaker 1: looking at you give me like you know from Afar,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm not even a hugger, but I've
Speaker 1: been hugging you a.
Speaker 2: Lot from Afar And yeah, thank you. I need it,
Speaker 2: Yeah I need it. But this has been you know.
Speaker 2: It's like I said, this show actually helps. It helps
Speaker 2: me force my husband to take care of the baby
Speaker 2: once in a while so I can do something for me.
Speaker 2: And it is work, but it's work that feeds me.
Speaker 2: It makes me feel like myself, so I don't mind it.
Speaker 2: I don't want people to worry that I'm like over
Speaker 2: exerting myself or you know whatever, being unhealthy by pushing
Speaker 2: myself to do the show. It actually it actually makes
Speaker 2: me feel good to do the show, and I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be doing it if it didn't. And if it starts
Speaker 2: to not feel good, I won't do it. So thank
Speaker 2: you guys for for a period of time. So thank
Speaker 2: you guys for giving me that space. No, but this
Speaker 2: is it's good. But do let me go because I
Speaker 2: just got you gotta check your text tip, but I
Speaker 2: texted you was strange, shot him what I just got
Speaker 2: for my husband. So SOS, we need you. Okay, bye,