1 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, I feel super awesome right now. We're back, 2 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: We're black, we're brown, and ambition. Have you on the ambition? 3 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: Hey man, hey, I'm here. Another show, another week. We're 4 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: doing it. 5 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Yes, we're doing it. 6 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for all your first and foremost. 7 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much. I got a flood of 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: messages and well wishes and so many like I really enjoyed. 9 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: One woman even sent me a voice message. I didn't 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: know you could do that on Instagram. It freaked me out. 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: I was like, do I press play? And then what happens? 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: She's talking to me. It's like an Instagram voicemail, like 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: just just sharing. It was so all these heartfelt messages 14 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: and just people pouring out their hearts and telling me 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: their personal stories of struggling with those early weeks of motherhood. 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: So I really really appreciate it. Thank you guys for 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: hearing me. I had a little bit of a vulnerability hangover. 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: Do you know that expression? Do you follow Berne Brown? Yeah, 19 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: that's her her. She writes about vulnerability and I was like, 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: being vulnerable as a leader and stuff, and I'm like, oh, 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: this is what a vulnerability hangover feels. Like you cry 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: in your national podcast and just live with that for 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: a week. And y'all know I edit the show, so 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: I was my finger was itching delete, but no, I 25 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: mean I had to stand in my truth and thank 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: y'all for hearing me. And I was just talking to 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: Tiff because right now I'm getting that itch to go 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: back to work or just you know, it's it's hard 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: when you are at a level of productivity and like 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: with your career. You know, Tiff, you're thinking about having 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: a family too, so it's like, how will you juggle 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: the person you were? 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Who? Really? 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: Just I mean, I love my calendar was my favorite thing. 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: I love a packed calendar. I love to know every 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: half hour chunk of my day and what was what 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: I was gonna do. And this life of eat, sleep, poop, eat, sleep, poop, cry, eat, 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, eat, sleep, poop, like that monotony is just 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: I guess I'm at that point in the attorney leave 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: where it's just like, oh, I my brain can do 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: more than this, Like where are my tasks? And my 42 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: therapist was telling me, like I see this woman like 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: you all the time. You look for things that you 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: can do on top of keeping the baby, alive every 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: day just to like reach your productivity, just so you 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 2: can feel like you're productive. And she's like, you got 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: to stop, like keeping the baby alive. That takes all 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: the mental energy, and you're just setting yourself up for 49 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: disappointment when you feel like you didn't accomplish anything from 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: day to day. And that's when I'm like trying to 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: make peace with that, trying to like, Okay, no, I 52 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: didn't unload the dishwasher. Yes, the laundry is still like 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: not even in a basket, just sprawl across the floor. 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean, my closet is just like a landmine of 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: just nursing pad and nursing tops and like just crap 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: onesies and whatever else on the floor. And I've had 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: to kind of just okay, not everything got done, but 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: the baby is sleeping and fed and happy, and you 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: know what, that's the stamp of approval. Day to day. 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: I sound like I've made I've worked it out, but 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm still struggling with the whole you know, that's feeling 62 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: I'm not productive. 63 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: Watching you because i I'm to be fully transparent, so 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: I took you know, it's been two years. Have you 65 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: been listening to brown and vision, which I'm sure you have. 66 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: It's been two years of like back to back IVF, 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: like I stopped traveling, I stopped speaking as much. I 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: said no to a lot of things so I could 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: be home and still no baby. So that part it's 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 1: been kind of stressful. And then in December I had 71 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: it was a December, I think it was December. I 72 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: had another scar removal surgery. Because some people like keloid 73 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: on the outside, Apparently I scar easily on the inside. 74 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: So I found out two years ago I had fibroids 75 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: because I had a miss carriage and so I knew 76 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: when I was pregnant. I was like, yeah, yeah, I 77 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: did not know I had fiveboids until like, I was like, 78 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm spotting. So I went to the emergency room and 79 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: they were like, we don't see anything but the fibroids. 80 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: They couldn't even see the baby. That's how many fibrids 81 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: I had. And so that's when I had my fiber 82 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: removal surgery. And when I did, my gynecologists was like, 83 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: you know, you're thirty eight, and if you're wanted to 84 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: have a baby, I would stack the odds in your 85 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: favor and not just try naturally, I would, you know, 86 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 1: use the help of a fertility doctor. And I said okay, 87 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: And that's when I found out like all these other 88 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: things that are like one, I guess I don't know 89 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: if it's hereditary or whatever, but my eggs I don't 90 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: have the level and quality of eggs that I that 91 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: the average woman of my age has. So I guess 92 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: to make it like, you know, I don't know what 93 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: age you could say, but I'm forty, but maybe my 94 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: eggs would would skew like more true for forty five 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: year old as you know, as women your eggs, you know, 96 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: so as a result, I'm not as fertile as you 97 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: would think. Like at thirty eight, it was like, you know, 98 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: I should still be relatively fertile, but I had a 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: low I think it was called HG HSG. HG, don't 100 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: get me to it's something with h Basically my levels 101 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: were low. And it was like, so, then, no, I 102 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: think it's HSG. I want to say something. 103 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 2: Like HSGA hormone. I should know these things something. 104 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's basically like my hormone level is low 105 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: for my age range. So then it was especially like 106 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: you need to use a fertility clinic because not that 107 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: I can't get pregnant naturally, but it's going to be 108 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: much much, much harder. And if I was twenty one, 109 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: then it would be fine. You have all these years, 110 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: but at thirty eight, it's like, you know, you're it's ticking, 111 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: and so like stacked the odds in your favor. So 112 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: we did you know, I've gone through the process of 113 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: removing the fibroids, and then once you removed the fibroids, 114 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: my uterus like I had too much scar tissue as 115 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: a result because I had a lot of fibroids, So 116 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: we removed the scar tissue. Scar tissued again. The scar 117 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: tissue propped open the universe with an iu iud Like 118 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, it looks like a little umbrella, kind of 119 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: like the inside of an umbrella that if you were 120 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: to take off. Yeah, so the prop me open so 121 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: that way it can heal without the without scarring together, 122 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: because your skin wants to fuse together, like whenever skin 123 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: is raw and open. So that's what my units was doing. 124 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: And but in the meantime I was doing cycles and 125 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: cycles or when they basically pump me with a bunch 126 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: of hormones. So when you're after your period comes and 127 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: your normal ovulation cycle happens. Instead of producing one egg, 128 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: you produce multiple eggs. Now, someone a woman of my age, 129 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: when I was thirty eight, I would have on average, 130 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: like eight follicles, and you produce eight eggs. I had four, 131 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: and so I was producing four follicles, and I was 132 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: producing three to four eggs every cycle. But then I 133 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: got pregnant again from but this time with IVF, and 134 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: then I had another miscarriage, and they're like, okay, let's 135 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: test this embryo. An embryo is just a mixer, like 136 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: it's like a pre baby almost. It's like, you know, 137 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: the sperm and the and the egg before it's like 138 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: fully coming to baby. And it turned out that that 139 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: baby had UH chromosomal issues, which is not uncommon for 140 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: an older woman, you know what I mean, Like if 141 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: I was into my late for so so this it 142 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: was really like evidence then like okay, your eggs are 143 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: not as healthy as they as they could be. And 144 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: so every single psycho since then I have paid an 145 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: additional amount of money to test the embryo because usually 146 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: you don't have to test it. What happens is they 147 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: put an embryo inside you. Your body does the rest. 148 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Your body says good, bad, let it go whatever. But 149 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: for me, because I know that, you know, my equality 150 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: is not so great, I don't want to waste like 151 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: the time and putting in an embryo that is not healthy, 152 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: because what my body is going to do is I'm 153 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: going to carry. And what happened with my last miscarriage, 154 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: it caused scar tissue. So then I had another two 155 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: scar tissue. So it's like it took me almost a 156 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: year to recover from the physically inside recover from the 157 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: last miscarriage because of the scar tissue. So I'm like, 158 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't have a year if you put in an 159 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: embryo that is not going to be healthy and my 160 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: body's going to reject anyway. So we need to know 161 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: ahead of time. So I've done like four or five 162 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: different cycles, honestly, and like at like out of maybe 163 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: ten to twelve embryos, I have one healthy embryo. The 164 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: last cycle we did, none of them were healthy and 165 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: then they found more scar tissue. I'm like, oh my god, honestly, 166 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: and so in January I was like I step away, 167 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: like it's too much. 168 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: It's a lot that's at just take up. I mean, 169 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: I just wanted a moment to acknowledge the work you 170 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 2: are putting in, Like that's a lot of silent work 171 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: and a lot of silent I mean, I can't even imagine. 172 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine even doing all this for so long, and. 173 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: It's just been like so like of course frustrating. So 174 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: I was like in January, I was like, okay, I 175 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: So I called my doctor and I was like, honestly, 176 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: I need a break because it's been two years. She's like, 177 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: and I's like, my joice, do I need to lose weight? Try? 178 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: Because you remember that's why I had gone vegan. Like 179 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: I was like, whatever it takes, Like I don't want 180 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: to look back twenty years from now and say, dank, Tiffany. 181 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: You really could have went on one less vacation or 182 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: said no to that speaking engagement and really put the 183 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: energy into having a family. And so I didn't want that, 184 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: you know. Like, so I was like, I'm going to 185 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: do all that I'm supposed to do. And she's like, tify, 186 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: you've been my doctor was telling my fertility doctor, you 187 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: have been a model patient. You've come to every you know, 188 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: you haven't missed any shots. And you know you've come 189 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: to every appointment. You know, you you you have, you know, 190 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: you've been a model patient. If there was something I 191 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: could say, do this better so to make it, She's like, 192 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: but I can't, and so she's like, I think it 193 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: is a good idea for you to take a break. 194 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: So I took January kind of like off, just to 195 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: because the what what a cycle looks like is that 196 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: you're giving yourself a shot every morning, every evening. Then 197 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: every other day you're at the doctor. Well for my doctor, 198 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: they do they do something called like pre appointments at 199 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: six thirty am, and so women who are doing the cycle, 200 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: it's like you have to get blood drawn and you 201 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: have to do basically when do you go to the guy? Now, 202 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 1: what is it when they're basically like looking in the 203 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: side of your regina? Yes, basically can you imagine that every 204 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: other day blood like the blood drawn. I'm like, yo, 205 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: I take my blood. It's nothing in comparison to like 206 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: every other morning at six am, crawling out of bed, 207 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: waiting on the cold steps with like all these other women. 208 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: You just kind of looking at each other like hi, Maria, Hi, 209 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: and you're waiting for them to open the doors, turn 210 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: on the lights before the office even opens so they 211 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: could draw your blood, which, like I said to me, 212 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: that's the easy part. But then for me to lay 213 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: legs cocked open, for you to put metal inside me, 214 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: for you to look again, and it's just like it's 215 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: just so I just like I I just need it. 216 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: I just need a break. So I was good at 217 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: like I said, at first January. Then I was like, 218 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna start back again until April. 219 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna And then I was like, you 220 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: know what, maybe I won't even have a baby. Maybe 221 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: I'll just But then I see Roman and Amelia, my 222 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: niece and my nephew, and I'm like, I really like 223 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: I want that, you know, like and but then there's 224 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: also this fear that like I am super driven, so 225 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm scared like, well, like, you know, I see the 226 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: struggle you're going through, Manny, and I feel like as 227 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: it relates to like our careers and how much we 228 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: love the work, like I'm scared, like what if what 229 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: does that look like? On the other side, Like am 230 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: I gonna be able to adjust because of how much 231 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: I really enjoy doing and being the budget the still 232 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: so that part is also scary too. So I've been vacillating. Yeah, 233 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: back and forth. 234 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: We have to I'm not back in the work. I'm 235 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: not back at work yet, but yes I will address 236 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: because if I don't, I will go insane, and I 237 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: think you will too. The survival is that is figuring 238 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: out how do you stay true? How do you And 239 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: this is just me speaking to my future self. I 240 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: know that I've obviously life has changed, priorities have change, 241 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: but you still have to You still have to do 242 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: what drives you and what speaks to your soul and 243 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: what makes you who you are at your core, the 244 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: important things, you know, not the extra stuff you can 245 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: say no to this or that, but like the core 246 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: of what you do. And I just feel like and 247 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: especially for you as an entrepreneur, I've heard time and 248 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: again I know people with similar you know, structured like 249 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: businesses like yours sometimes say children make you work more efficiently, 250 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: can make more, can make you more uh, can make 251 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: you more driven and and and make you request more 252 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: for what you do so that you earn more than 253 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: you used to. I just and maybe this has comfort, 254 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: maybe it's not comforting, but I feel like we have to. 255 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: We have to find a way to do the work 256 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: and do the mothering thing, or else we just won't 257 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: be happy. And you know who wants to have an 258 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 2: unhappy an unhappy wife and an unhappy mom. It's not 259 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: just it's just gonna drag the whole household. So I mean, 260 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: drag the whole household down. 261 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: So I just like so, I honestly I decided because 262 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait 263 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: to push you back, push it back, and push it back. 264 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: And then really this weekend I was just really thinking 265 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: about it. My niece and my nephew came over it, 266 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: and it was just like they're just so awesome, you know, 267 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: like the two and two and four, such great agents. 268 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: They're fun, they talk, they they joke like, you know, yes, 269 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: even though like a million to wipe my butt, and 270 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: she calls me Auntie Poopy to be funny, like Auntie Poopy, 271 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, it's just it's just everything. They 272 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: are everything. And I thought like, I, yes, Tiffany, you 273 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: do want this. I get the frustration, but I'm not 274 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: we haven't come this far to give up. And so yeah, 275 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: so I actually have to call my fertility doctor again. Uh. 276 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: I was supposed to call today but I didn't. I'm 277 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: gonna call tomorrow to say, Okay, what's next. I'm praying 278 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: that this last scar tissue has really move the last 279 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: scars that were inside my uterus, because what happens with 280 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: when you think about scars too, you should think about 281 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: it as like almost like a scab that's holding part 282 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: of your uterus together, and so you want an open, 283 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: clear uterus so that way the baby has full space 284 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: to grow. But you've got like it's not like a 285 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: scab on the roof on the side, it's the scab, 286 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: it's holding one it's connecting one side of your unius 287 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: to the other. So almost like like so it's like 288 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: a balloon that you squeezed in the middle, so there's 289 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: no space for a baby to grow on one side 290 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: of the bubble of the balloon or the other side 291 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: of the bubble of the boom. So they have to 292 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: remove that. And so I'm hoping that you know, when 293 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: they go to look that they're like, yeah, it's all clear, 294 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: which is great. So I've already told myself, like I 295 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: have three options. I'm gonna do one more cycle because 296 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: if I you know, by now, if I do a 297 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: cycle and that we don't have any healthy embryos, and 298 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: it just means that my body's been basically like you know, 299 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that the medicine is just not working. 300 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: And then if that cycle doesn't yield any good embryos, 301 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: I I still I do have one good embryo from 302 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: like a year ago that we froze, and so I'm 303 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: then after that, I'll just have them put that embryo in. 304 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: If this cycle doesn't yield any fresh embryos, they'll put 305 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: that embryo in and then prayerfully that embryo takes if 306 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: the cycle, the next cycle doesn't yield anything, and then 307 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: if that doesn't happen, I just told myself honestly, I 308 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: think I'm just gonna try my hand at just us 309 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: trying naturally with a clear fiboard free scar tissue free uterus. 310 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: So that's like the third because you can't try naturally 311 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: while you're doing IVF because they do test things sometimes 312 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: that could hurt a child if you don't even know 313 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: you're pregnant. So let's just say me and Jerella trying 314 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: like naturally, and I happen to be pregnant and in 315 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: three days and I don't even know. But then I 316 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: go to the doctor and sometimes they do this thing 317 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: where it's called the high hydro something where they literally 318 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: fill your unius with water so they can see it fully, 319 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: so you don't want to drown your potential baby, you know. 320 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: So you can't realize all that. 321 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: Man, Oh my gosh, like this. There's one where they 322 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: literally put ink inside you so and it like burns 323 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: so they can see they can get a picture, like 324 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: a clear picture of what your unus is looking like, 325 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: so they can see all the scar tissues. When I 326 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: tell you, whoo, if it wasn't for the budgetista, like 327 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: I put it like in a section of my head 328 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: of like like like on to do list, go to 329 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: the doctor in the morning, let them look in your 330 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: vagina for the thousand times. Then I come home. Then 331 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: I you know, like I because if not, it just 332 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: will make you crazy. Like even hearing it coming from 333 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: my mouth, I'm like, yo, this sounds crazy. But you 334 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: can't look at it like that or you won't do it. 335 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: And so but not everyone. So here's the thing. A 336 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: friend of mine she did one cycle got pregnant, boom. 337 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: So IVF doesn't look like this for everyone, Like I'm 338 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: just having a harder time than most. Quite honestly, it's 339 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: it's they say, IVF is typically sixty percent successful. So yeah, 340 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: and not everyone sticks with it, honestly, because I'm really fortunate, 341 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: which I'm grateful of is that a superman might my husband, 342 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: his his benefits cover everything. I pay a ten dollars copay. 343 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes when I go to see the doctor, I don't 344 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: know if I've even spent two hundred dollars extraordinary, I mean, honestly, 345 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: the blessing I'm blessed Mary, yeah m hm. So whenever 346 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm feeling super overwhelmed, I remind myself, like Tiffany, like 347 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: you have probably spent over two hundred thousand not probably, 348 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: but this process would have cost me out of pocket 349 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: over two hundred thousand dollars already already if if like 350 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, because I'll see the medicine. Sometimes the medicine 351 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: list will come up and it'll say, all of these 352 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: shots and everything, we're sending you eighty thousand dollars, but 353 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: your your call pay for the medicine zero dollars. I 354 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: don't even pay for the medicine. Yeah, so as much 355 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: like you know, you don't have to cry for me, Argentina, 356 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: because I know it's hard, but I live a really 357 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: blessed fortunate life because so many women don't have access 358 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: to healthcare that would take care of this for them. 359 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: So I don't know, pray for me. I feel hopeful 360 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: because I'm just like, I do have one good embryo. 361 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: My body has shown twice that it can indeed be pregnant. 362 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: It's just like, I'm just creating the ideal environment and 363 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: we already we have a healthy embryo. So even if 364 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: this cycle doesn't yield a healthy embryo, that we do 365 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: have one that we can implant and pray, pray, pray, pray, 366 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: pray over it and not go anywhere and stay home 367 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: and relax and utsa and yeah. 368 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: But I just think they are goddamn superhero because that 369 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: it just I mean. And you know, and I've been 370 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: following Amy Schumer and I know she's going through She's 371 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: like sharing her IVF journey right now, and she's like, 372 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: first of all, her Instagram page is hilarious. She's like 373 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: the raw real motherhood anyway. But like the work that 374 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: you're doing and so many women are doing too to 375 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 2: have children, Like it's it's extraordinary and I want it for. 376 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: You so bad and also you're going through it like 377 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, I know sometimes like the secret shame and 378 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: sometimes you just I share because and what I love honestly, 379 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: ib our listens are so awesome because nobody hits me 380 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: in the DMS and says, so it's got all the baby, 381 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: So it's gonna because you guys have been so awesome 382 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: in like letting me share when I want to share, 383 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: and then when I don't, leaving it alone because sometimes 384 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: it's too overwhelming. So so honestly, like our listeners been have 385 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: been so so amazing that when I share, they reach out, 386 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, they you know, they ask me questions and 387 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: then when I don't like I said, they leave it. 388 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: And so that's been really great because sometimes it can 389 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: be really like overwhelming, like when someone's asking you know, 390 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: when you're like, especially if you had a really bad 391 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: doubt or you have you got the news, oh you 392 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: need another scar movers surgery, and you're Likejesus, suck how 393 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: many times you have to go down under Naesi? Because 394 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: when you have to go under anesthesia, like put you 395 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: to sleep, and you know that's a risk. Every time 396 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: you get put to sleep, there is a chance you 397 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: will not wake up. And so like it's just you know, 398 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: so some days you have those days and you're like, 399 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to freak of talk about it, and 400 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: other days I'm like, I don't mind talking about it 401 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: because I know that somebody out there might need to 402 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: hear it. But yeah, so when when we all have 403 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: this baby, because this is our baby now, when she 404 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: comes or he comes into existence, I swear I'm gonna 405 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: be telling this story to them. They're eighty. 406 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: I let them talk back to you once. That's how 407 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: I feel the first time they give you attitude. Look here, 408 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: you old. 409 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: I know you don't even understand, but let me tell you, 410 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: I worked for two years, longer than your life is 411 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: as existed, to make sure that you were here now. 412 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: But I think about it, but then I still feel 413 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: hope because I found out for my mom that she 414 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: struggled like with having because I'm one of five kids, 415 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: and like they told her before my first sister was born, 416 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen for you. Like you you know, 417 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: these are the issues that you're having and she has 418 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: five kids. I'm not trying to have nobody's five kids. 419 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: But I just thought about that. She just reminded me 420 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: of that I didn't know that. I didn't know that 421 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: she had fertility issues and stuff and they told her 422 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna happen and her hips were wide enough, 423 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: this other stuff they told her, and like, you know, 424 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm baby number two or five, So you 425 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: know that at the end of the day, you know, 426 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: doctors don't always have the final say at the end 427 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: of the day. You know, you know your body and 428 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: whatever higher source you believe in that has the final say. 429 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: So I know that's been pretty heavy, but like, actually 430 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: I feel good. I feel I've been wanting to share, 431 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: like kind of like where I was in the journey, 432 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: especially now that I feel like rejuvenated to go back 433 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: to it. I feel in a good space with it, 434 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: Like I didn't want to go back begrudgingly, and I'm 435 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: not so thank you for letting me, Samandra. 436 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 2: How could I not thank you for sharing? Thank you. 437 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Now that we baby y'all out, you can ask us 438 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: any question that you may have about career, personal finance, family. Actually, 439 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: a friend of mine asked me a really good question 440 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: about and we should maybe do a show on this, Amandy, 441 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: about how to navigate marriage and money. So a friend 442 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: who's recently got married asked how I was doing it 443 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: with Superman. So I just gave her kind of like 444 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: what we do and you know, but there's no wrong 445 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: or right way. But I think that would just be 446 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: an awesome like marriage and money kind of like. 447 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: A So that's a very broad question. 448 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: M I think we should have that, And if you 449 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: guys have marriage and money questions, to send them in. 450 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: But while you explained, because you know what I thought 451 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: I knew, and. 452 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: No, Mandy, you have to insight. 453 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: Nope, no I don't, No, I don't. 454 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: That's because you have a kid. 455 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: Now, talk about how husband decided that having a baby 456 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 2: was a good time to get all of his dental 457 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: work done, all of it every other day, gotta get 458 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: another crown. I'm like, how much are these crowns on? 459 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: What's out of your mouth? 460 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: Why don't you brush your teeth for I've been telling 461 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: you for eight years? 462 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: All right? 463 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, that's a great idea for a show, pro show. 464 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: Let's not tackle it today. 465 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: Because today. So yeah, no, I would love yes. Send 466 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: your questions, send your comments, your concerns to us, and 467 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: Mandy's going to drop them. 468 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'll tell you how to do that. You 469 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: may go to Brannanbision podcast dot com ask us anything there, 470 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: or you can hit us up on Instagram. We are 471 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: at the b Wait No, oh crap, what am I 472 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: Tiffany today? Mommy brain? We are at brann and Vision 473 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: podcast on Instagram and also our email address is Brandnavision 474 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 2: Podcast at gmail dot com. I had to really work 475 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: hard for that. Wow, it's just not roll off the 476 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: tongue I've you used to. All Right. I do have 477 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: a couple of love like questions thinking one from the email, 478 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 2: one from the Graham Today. Let's see this one comes 479 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: from Okay. She wants to be called Mispace. Okay, miss Pace, 480 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: She says, love your show. You guys are both my 481 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: besties in my head. I got married in twenty sixteen, 482 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: the year before you guys did, and I'm a few 483 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: weeks from delivering my first baby. Who is she delivered herself? 484 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: That's exciting you all say what I'm thinking and have 485 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: awesome solutions. My question is this I'm a budding entrepreneur, which, 486 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: as you know, means I don't have maternity leave. I've 487 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: been paying into a short term disability coverage policy since 488 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 2: a year ago under the impression that it covered maternity leave. However, 489 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: I've now found out that I'd only be covered if 490 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: there was a complication in my pregnancy, which means I've 491 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: wasted a year of paying into this policy. After all 492 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: this drama going back and forth, I no longer want 493 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: a policy, and I was thinking if there are other 494 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: ways I can say for future baby number two in 495 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: two years and one questions and suggestion and one of 496 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: suggestions on whether I should do a mutual fund or 497 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: a CD what would be best that would give me 498 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: some decent interest for my money. That's a good So 499 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: the entrepreneur is saving to have a baby. That's an 500 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: interesting comp because you don't have maternity leaves, you have 501 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: to like, yeah, I'm sure you can talk about that. 502 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: But essentially the question is, so, she's about to have 503 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: a baby soon, but she's looking at creating kind of 504 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: some kind of savings fund. I guess that she plans 505 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: to tap into in a couple of years. M h, yeah, 506 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: So the best way to save for that for something 507 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: that would be kind of short term like that. But yeah, 508 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: do you want to talk about what you how you've 509 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: sort of approached it since you've got your own business 510 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: and you're also planning to have a baby. 511 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: Well, what I did was I actually created a fund 512 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: called I call it super Baby because you know I 513 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: call Superman Superman and our bonus daughter, well his daughter, 514 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: my bonest daughter, Supergirl, a Lissa Supergirl. And so I like, 515 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: I started off with jess an online only savings account 516 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: and I named it super Baby, and I just started 517 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: putting money into that online only savings account. And then 518 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, I met with Angelie, my financial planner, and 519 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: she was like, well, let's put this into a mutual 520 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: fund so, you know, so that way it can grow. 521 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: And what I would suggested if you can't know for 522 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: sure obviously when you're gonna get pregnant, but if you 523 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: wanted to create like a like to get a target 524 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: date fund, so let's just say you know you're gonna 525 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: want to start again in two years or two years 526 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: is when you're anticipating the next baby, So picking kind 527 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: of like that year as your target date, and you know, 528 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: putting your money in a mutual fund that's also a 529 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: target date fund, So as you get closer and closer 530 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: to that baby coming to fruition, your money is is 531 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: being preserved, your capital is being preserved because the way 532 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: a target date fund works, I think we mentioned this 533 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: last episode, is that the closer you get to the 534 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: target date, the more conservative your investments automatically rebalance themselves 535 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: to be so that way, when you're ready to take 536 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: the money, you're not in some sort of like riskier 537 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: investment that does yield a risk potential bigger return, but 538 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: at least you know you'll be able to actually take 539 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: the money that's currently they're out fairly safely. So that's 540 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: what I would look for. That's what I've done with 541 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: super Baby is a target Well I haven't done a 542 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: target date fund, but I've done a mutual fund because 543 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: I don't have a target date because I'm not you know, 544 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: who knows where, like what's going to happen for me. 545 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: But that's what I would suggest. And then this current 546 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: when I'm like, uh, how frustrating to have paid into 547 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: something thinking it's one thing and it's like, nah's not, 548 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: which is so crazy. I'm assuming she's with, Yeah. 549 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: I didn't I even know that some policies. I didn't 550 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: even know that short term disability, because you're right, I mean, 551 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: when I went on maternity leave, it's considered a short 552 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: term disability leave, like it's a I'm a disabled person 553 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: and that's kind of what I have to file for whatever. 554 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: So I guess that would make sense. But I didn't realize, 555 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: like if you were buying your own policy, that it 556 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 2: might cover, like it might pay out for a maternity leave. 557 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 2: I hadn't heard of that before. Maybe there are some 558 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: policies like that. I don't know, have you heard about 559 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: anything like that? 560 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: No? Actually I had it, Like I mean, I've heard 561 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: of course of short term disability, and I have disability 562 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: like that I pay out of pocket for myself that 563 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: I got like you know, like in my twenties or 564 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: thirties or whatever. But I did I didn't even know 565 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: that disability cover quite honestly, maternity leave or you could 566 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: get disability for maternity leave. So now the question is 567 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: to ask yourself, is is there a policy that definitively 568 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: does cover maternity leave? And to get that, you know, 569 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: to research and find that policy for this for this 570 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: upcoming baby after this first one. 571 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: Even does though you think if she's having the baby soon, 572 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: like would she be able to pay into it for 573 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: such a short amount of time and then be able 574 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: to cash into it. That seems a little like well. 575 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: I was thinking more so like that that that that 576 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: would be for baby too. 577 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: Oh she could say, Oh, you're right. You weren't even 578 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: reading her question, but you woulder stood it. 579 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: There that I did. I'm like two years from now. 580 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: But do you know how the gestation period for one? 581 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: You're right, she's talking about for the next one. Oh ya, girl, 582 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: how do you listen? Take it from me, have the 583 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: first one first, and then because number I have removed 584 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: the number two out of my dictionary, out of my vocabulary, 585 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: I don't even talk about anything that has to do 586 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: with number two anymore. Thanks, So I totally woo okay, 587 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: I'm back on track. Continue, Tiffany, you can run the 588 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: show for the rest. 589 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Of the show. So that's what I meant about the 590 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: mutual fund, So that would be for baby number two. 591 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: But I would also I would probably do like I said, 592 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: like a target date fund for baby number two, just 593 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: to be ready for baby number two, but for baby 594 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: number one. I would also open up just a mutual 595 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: fund for that baby, just like for future things like college. 596 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: So you can do a target date fund for a 597 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: baby that's coming now baby number one and I have 598 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: the target date be eighteen years from now, seventeen years 599 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: from now, so for college. So both of the baby's 600 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: the one that's currently here basically almost and the baby 601 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: in the future, you can do that for both. But 602 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: now I wanted to just tackle the current disability policy. 603 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know for sure what you should do 604 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: with that current disability policy, because one, it might be 605 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: good for other things outside of the baby stuff, which 606 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: is what I know you got it for. At the 607 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: very least, I likely would keep it until after the 608 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: baby comes, because God forbid that there are complications which 609 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: were there's not going to be reclaiming that now, but 610 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: God forbid that something like that that does happen. This 611 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: policy would actually cover that, So I wouldn't want you 612 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: to cancel it before knowing for sure, So that's what 613 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: I would do. I would wait until after baby comes 614 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: and you're healthy and at home and everything's fine, then 615 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: consider cancering that policy and then getting one that's more 616 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: in alignment with what you need, but not before the 617 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: baby comes. So I hope that helps. And congratulations pre. 618 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: Mommy, that's no, that's great. We like and we love 619 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: insurance on this show. We love insurance baby number two. 620 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: Do you hear the background right now? Because it's excellent 621 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: birth control. All right, let's move on to brown Boost, 622 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: Brown Break. We're gonna take a quick break and be right. 623 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: So it's Brad break, Brown booths, brown break, brown boo 624 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: to break. Are you gonna break? Are you gonna not booths? 625 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do well, I'm gonna do an informational break 626 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: from some kind of like some not great news in 627 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: the credit score world. So last week shock waves went 628 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: through the world. Anytime FIKO changes its credit credit score formula, 629 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, nerds like us get at all in a 630 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: titter about this. But basically what's happening is every once 631 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: in a while, FIKO will look at the way that 632 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: it calculates credit scores and it's been This is not 633 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: the first time it's made changes. I believe a couple 634 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: of years ago it changed the way it treated medical 635 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: debt that actually benefited a lot of people. Before the change, 636 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: if you had medical debt, your score could basically be lower, 637 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: but they treated medical debt a little bit more graciously, 638 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: considering it's medical debt, not something like a credit card, 639 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: you know, which you've racked up yourself. A lot of 640 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: people can't control when they get into medical debt, you know. 641 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: So the most recent change has to do with personal loans, 642 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: which may impact a lot of our listeners because personal loans, 643 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 2: I know from you know, just working where I work, 644 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: we help people find and compare personal loans. They are 645 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: a hugely popular way to borrow money these days, with 646 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: a personal loan. We talk about them all long time 647 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: on the show, right when we recommend, you know, taking 648 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: out a small personal loan from a credit union or 649 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: from an onlinand or wherever to say, consolidate credit card 650 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: debt if you can get a lower credit, if you 651 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: can get a lower interest rate on a personal loan, 652 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: you know, you can use that loan to pay off 653 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: higher interest debt and then you have one loan. Personal 654 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: loans are great because they're fixed, you know, fixed monthly payments, 655 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: and they're fixed aprs, they don't go up and down, 656 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: and you have a fixed repayment term, so you know 657 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: when the end is coming. But what's happened now is 658 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: with the with the new FICO changes. Apparently, if you 659 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 2: use personal loans in that way to pay off all 660 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: your credit card, all your credit cards in the past, 661 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: that would immediately probably impact your score beneficially because you've 662 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: gotten rid of a bunch of high interest debt and 663 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: you've now got a fixed Damn it. I knew I 664 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: was going to get this wrong because the momy brain. Oh, 665 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: installment loan. Yes, you've got installment debt versus high interest 666 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: revolving debt like a credit Yes, that's why your credit 667 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: score can get boosted by consolidating with a personal loan. 668 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: Under the new formula, FIKO will look back. This is 669 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: according to NPR, FYCO will look back over a period 670 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: of time as far as two years to see whether 671 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 2: you've used the loan to reduce your high interest credit 672 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 2: card debt or whether you're using credit cards as much 673 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: as you were before, running up new revolving balances and 674 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: falling deeper into debt. So this is really important because 675 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: we find again you know, lending Tree my company, we 676 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: look at, you know, how do people use personal loans? 677 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: And often you do find people because they have that 678 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 2: sense of oh, I've gotten this personal loan, I've paid 679 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: off my credit cards. They feel like they're debt free 680 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like the pressure is off, but 681 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: you're not. You still have the debt. It's just costing 682 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: you less. It's in a different form. 683 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And because. 684 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: You have that sense of like, oh, I'm getting on 685 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,479 Speaker 2: top of my finances, you're like, oh, I'm gonna treat 686 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: myself to this at them all or I'm gonna why 687 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: not take out that new credit card when I you know, 688 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 2: check out at the Gap or at Kohl's or whatever, 689 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 2: And before you know it, you haven't fixed the bad 690 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: habits and you have additional credit card debts. So this 691 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: is what that seems like. The FYCO formulas trying to 692 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: get smarter, which makes sense, to not get to look 693 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: at how people and what they're doing after they consolidate 694 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: their with their credit card debt with they personal loan, 695 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: and you can potentially get dinged if you continue racking 696 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: up debt. 697 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 1: So it's like good for like the medical debt stuff, 698 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: but then maybe not so good with the consolidating personal 699 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: loan debt. 700 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: It's good if you I mean honestly it's still a 701 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: great tool to use to consolidate debt. You know, I'd 702 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: still recommend it as you can get a if you 703 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: can get a lower interest rate than what your credit 704 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: cards have, it totally makes sense. The only thing is 705 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 2: just be mindful that if you continue racking up credit 706 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: card debt after you've used that personal loan to consolidate, 707 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 2: FICO will take note of that looking back as far 708 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: as two years, and the boost you may get from 709 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: and from consolidating that debt with a personal loan. Maybe 710 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: count your race. Yeah, I don't know about a race. 711 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't say like how we're you know, it's really 712 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: difficult to judge how and what how much of a 713 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 2: score will go up or down, but it will definitely 714 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: ding you if you go back and start racking up 715 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: credit card debt after you've you set loan to consolidate. 716 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: So to know, yeah, so this is good. So you're right. 717 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: This is like some someplace in between brom boosts and 718 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: broad break. So it's like, you know, I know, no, no, 719 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: it's good though. We have to know because I mean 720 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: that the way you navigate with your credit is, you know, 721 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: it's critical you need credit in this country. You know, 722 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: it can prevent you from getting a home, it can 723 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: prevent you from getting a job, it can prevent you 724 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: from getting utilities turned on. So it's important that you know, 725 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: you know all these things, like you know, I know, 726 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: there's like this brigade of like we don't need credit. 727 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, sis, do you live in the usbay because 728 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: you indeed do. You don't have to have like, you know, 729 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: like a ton of credit, but you have to have 730 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: some credit history as an adult unless you're not you're 731 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: purchasing everything with cash, which is definitely possible, but the 732 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: average person is not able to purchase everything with cash. 733 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: And and even then you might have a job that's like Okay, 734 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: you proaches your house, your car, your close everything with cash, 735 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: and your job's like that's cute, but we need to 736 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: see your credit score to see if this is a 737 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: position that we could trust you with. And so there's 738 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: nothing that you can do to side step that. So yeah, 739 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: so credit is still an important component of adulting financially, 740 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: So just keeping that in mind. Oh that was good. 741 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: So I'm actually going to brown Boost. So have you 742 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: heard of Unique? Her name is Unique Jones. She is Well, 743 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard of because of them we can? 744 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I love the Instagram account. 745 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: Yes, right, so positive, so amazing, so delightful. If you 746 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 1: don't follow literally at because of them you can. And 747 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: so what's so great about because of them you can? 748 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: Is that Unique? I mean especially it's Black History Months, 749 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: so she really celebrates like black excellence and all its 750 00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: amazing forms. But Unique recently launched something called culture Tags. 751 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: And the way culture tax works is that it's a 752 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: it's a game, you know how like you ever see 753 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: like people be like T B A to be honest 754 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: or like, you know, it's like get the f out 755 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: of here, G F O T, you know what I mean. 756 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: So she literally created this really fun game where s 757 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: O T. Sorry, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get the wait 758 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: g T G T because you. 759 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 2: Don't because you don't curse, you're a little rusty. Where 760 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 2: is the F go? I know where it goes, but. 761 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: I gotta call you know, he's a potty mouth and 762 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 1: so I. 763 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 3: Respect that and so so but it's a fun game 764 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 3: where the purpose of the game is that you have 765 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 3: a timer and then you hold up the like you know, 766 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: the acronym is that that's an acronym, right, is that right? 767 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 768 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what you call them in the you know, 769 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 2: for text messaging beyond acronym. 770 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: Sure, So baby, it's basically what's she calls them? Just 771 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: a hashtag and so you hold up the hashtag and 772 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: you have a certain amount of time to guess what 773 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: it is. And what I really love is that she 774 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 1: has categories. So she's like categories Church, categories black Mama, 775 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: because they have one where it's like do you have 776 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: McDonald's money, which is hilarious. So I love that she 777 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: breaks it down into culturally relevant things for black culture. 778 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: And then you have to guess what the hashtag is. 779 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: And if you go to culture tags at culture tags 780 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram, you can see like videos and people playing 781 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: and it's so it looks so fun. And I share 782 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: this because Unique just launched a Kickstarter to bring this 783 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: game to life. I think she was asking for fifteen thousand. 784 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: As of right now, she already has twenty two thousand dollars, 785 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: and if she reaches like thirty five thousand, she gives 786 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: like additional gifts to people who've donated, so I think 787 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: she still has another like twenty days or something to go. 788 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: She got fully funded day one, but she's like, look 789 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: if they get even more funding and mean even more 790 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: goodies for people who have back it, I highly suggest. 791 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 1: Like I love games, and so I have like taboo 792 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: at the house. We have uno, we play cards, so 793 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: I literally have like a game closet because as a kid, 794 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: we always play games as when I was a kid. 795 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: So I love having games in the house so when 796 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: friends come over, we can have fun. So I backed 797 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: the project so I can get like the game in 798 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: my house. But honestly, what I tell you, like looking 799 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: at the videos of live people playing it, it looks 800 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: so much fun. I cannot wait to play. So it's called. 801 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 2: Culture tags culture Okay, So. 802 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: What you can do is you can go to kickstarter 803 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: dot com and just like typing culture tags and it 804 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: should come up. Or you can just go to culture 805 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: tags on ig and like and in the culture tag 806 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: like a you could pre order the game be a Kickstarter, 807 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: like the link is in her ig bio in the 808 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: culture tag ig bio. But yeah, honestly, it just looks 809 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: like so much fun and like like like. 810 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: Got McDonald's money. It kind of reminds me of like 811 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like getting a sense of like black 812 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,479 Speaker 2: Jeopardy from the category is we got food at home? 813 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: Literally like that right, Like how fun is that? And 814 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: so like, like I said, I love the fact that 815 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: she breaks down the categories like you know, like things 816 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: black moms say, black church, and so like, you know, 817 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: it's just she just said that because I spoke to 818 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: like we were like messaging back and forth, and she 819 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: said she created it because she was inspired by black Twitter, 820 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: because you know, black Twitter is hilarious and they have 821 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: just created such an amazing like, well we have this 822 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: amazing black culture that black Twitter really just displays just 823 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: how funny, how sharp, how witty we are, whitty we are. 824 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: And she noticed that like we were using like these 825 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: hashtags in such a way that it was just hilarious 826 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: that like, especially if you're black, they especially mean something 827 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: to you because it's just certain ways that we talk 828 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: and that we are. And she was like, like one 829 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: of my favorites in the video. So it's like, uh, 830 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: I think it's like I forget the category. I think 831 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: the category is like black man or something like that, 832 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: and it's like you know what men say when they 833 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: see each other, and I forget the acronym don't get 834 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: me to asking, but it's like, oh, this is I've 835 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 1: seen Jerrelle do this with like with like his friends, 836 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: Like you know, his friends will say like, how you doing. 837 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: He's like, man, just trying to get like you. So 838 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: it's like just j T G. You know, I would 839 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: never think of that because I'm like, I'm not a dude, 840 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: but I like all the men in the audience when 841 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: they played were like Rory and they all knew what 842 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: it was. And man, it just looks like a fun game. 843 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: Unique is like a rock star. I don't know how 844 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 1: she developed this, created it. It looks the game itself 845 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: looks like you could buy this game at Target from 846 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: Milton Bradley, Like it already looks so well polished. So yeah, 847 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: so I'm just sharing that because I think we you know, 848 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: we we love black and Brown excellenteer at Brown Ambition, 849 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: and you know Unique has already displayed that with because 850 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: of them, we can. But now with culture tags, you 851 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: can bring a little more culture and fun into your home. Kickstarter. 852 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: Just go to culture tag and like I said, I 853 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: read across it and I was like, oh and I 854 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: ordered it, and yeah, I'm just excited. So I figured 855 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: I share because I have my own kickstarted coming up, 856 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: so I'm extra hyper sensitive to supporting other people in 857 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: their kickstarter journey. 858 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 2: Yes, gets like a kickstarter a juju out there? Good energy. 859 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: Now that sounds so much fun. Awesome. All right, I'm 860 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: gonna go play a game of Catch the Screaming Baby. Yeah, 861 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 2: let see who wins. Usually nobody but the baby. Ah, 862 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 2: melatonin or two so I can get some shut eye. 863 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good night. 864 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: Like girl that meltone. I told Carol about it. She's 865 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: a girl. Thank you. These gummies are everything. 866 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,720 Speaker 2: Oh they had gummies. I'm using like an expired bottle 867 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 2: that I forgot. I had my friend because I was 868 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 2: complaining about my friends like use of melatonin. 869 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, like because I honestly, I'm not 870 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: really good with pills. So whenever possible, I try to 871 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: take a gummy of any pill that I need to take, 872 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: if possible orchewable. 873 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, can consult your medical professional. I'm not endorsing any 874 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 2: you know, but for me, melatonin expired from May twenty nineteen. 875 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: Does a truck make I refuse to buy a new 876 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 2: bottles cheap? How many I've been you should see my 877 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 2: search history. How many melatonin do you need to take? 878 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 2: If it's expound like that. 879 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 3: Here? 880 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: So I should be okay. Oh but honestly, look like 881 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: looking at you give me like you know from Afar, 882 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm not even a hugger, but I've 883 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: been hugging you a. 884 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 2: Lot from Afar And yeah, thank you. I need it, 885 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah I need it. But this has been you know. 886 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 2: It's like I said, this show actually helps. It helps 887 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 2: me force my husband to take care of the baby 888 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 2: once in a while so I can do something for me. 889 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: And it is work, but it's work that feeds me. 890 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 2: It makes me feel like myself, so I don't mind it. 891 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 2: I don't want people to worry that I'm like over 892 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 2: exerting myself or you know whatever, being unhealthy by pushing 893 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 2: myself to do the show. It actually it actually makes 894 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: me feel good to do the show, and I wouldn't 895 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 2: be doing it if it didn't. And if it starts 896 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 2: to not feel good, I won't do it. So thank 897 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 2: you guys for for a period of time. So thank 898 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: you guys for giving me that space. No, but this 899 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 2: is it's good. But do let me go because I 900 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 2: just got you gotta check your text tip, but I 901 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: texted you was strange, shot him what I just got 902 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 2: for my husband. So SOS, we need you. Okay, bye,