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This week's guest 29 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: has been futured on CNN Vice and Playboy. She has 30 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: created a sugar daddy formula where her clients have benefited 31 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: over one point five million dollars dollars collectively through the 32 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: generosity of their sugar daddies. So to my guests, thank 33 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: you so much for being a part of the PSHD 34 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: podcast and sharing your story on being a successful sugar baby. 35 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: That's all right, thank you for having me. I can't 36 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: wait to make more women out there embrace their inner sugar. Yes. 37 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: So to my guests, how are you doing? I am 38 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: doing the best I can. I've been so looking forward 39 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: to this call. So here I am. I have the 40 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: paint been to entreating you will. My body is looking 41 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: on point. I didn't do the pandemic eating and went 42 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: the whole you know what, let me work out and 43 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: make sure my body is tight. Oh wow, I'm jealous. 44 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: So everybody is super excited to hear your insights on this. 45 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: I've been like sharing so with my listeners. So No. 46 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Number My question is for those that don't know, what 47 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: is a sugar baby? Oh, a sugar baby is a 48 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: woman who owns what she wants and not afraid to 49 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: embrace it. So for her, she owns it by being 50 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: vocal about it and can communicate her needs so that 51 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: she gets it. That's what a sugar baby is. What 52 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: are some misconceptions of being a sugar baby? The thought 53 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: that you're thinking right now, that thought, that thought is okay, 54 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: is this a woman or a younger woman at that 55 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: having intimate see behind closed doors with the older man? 56 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: Is it a woman that is out just strictly to 57 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: get money from then? And let's not how about we 58 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: actually talk about in terms of the other side, is 59 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: this or is this not escorting? That is a lot 60 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: of the mis consumptions that I get a lot about. 61 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: That was my next question. What is the difference between 62 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: sugaring and scoring, okay, well with a sugar well with scorting. 63 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it is what it is. It's a business. 64 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: There is no gray areas black and white. She has 65 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: a business and at the end of the day, that's 66 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: what it's about. But for a sugar baby, there is 67 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: an emotional connection attached to it. So this isn't anything 68 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: different from a traditional relationship, except that we're only what 69 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: we want within the relationship. I feel like when a 70 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: lot of people think of sugar dayers, I think of sex, 71 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: But what are some other benefits of having a your daddy? 72 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: It's actually truly comes down to what you want. For example, 73 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: it's like a lot of women might want someone who 74 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: is a higher caliber man and they want that lifestyle 75 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: that they have access to. They want the mentorship, They 76 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: want to know how they got their wealth and then 77 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: want that too. They want the whole experience of the lifestyle. 78 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: So it means so much more than just a label 79 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: of a sugar baby. It's more of how can this 80 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: person have an impact on my on my life? So 81 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: with any relationship, there is a give and take from 82 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: both sides, and that's like that with traditional dating. But 83 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: the beautiful thing about with a sugar relationship. We're not 84 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: playing this game going back and forth for not hiding 85 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: behind this facade. We're putting out on the table saying, hey, 86 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: this is what I'm looking for within a relationship. Since 87 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: what I value I value someone providing for me. And 88 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: can you be this person for me? I know if 89 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: you've been in a game over ten years. So what 90 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: are some common mistakes that sugar babies making the beginning? 91 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: Not owning what they want? It's easy to say, right, 92 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: It's like, I want a guide to provide me with 93 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: this lifestyle, but what does that mean? Do you what? 94 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: What does that look like? Do you want a guide 95 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: to take you shopping? What does that look like? Do 96 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: you want someone to financially assist you? What does that 97 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: look like like? What do you want? I find out 98 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: a lot of women might want something, but they don't 99 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: know what they want. And if you don't know what 100 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: you want, a close mouth doesn't get that right, So 101 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: it helps you know what you want? Are there any 102 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: ways that one can stand out amongst the other sugar babies? 103 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: Because I know you speak about inman and like have 104 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: an outside interest and stuff. So does that help? Well? 105 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Let me ship our thought process around that question, right, 106 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: because it depends now on how we're trying to attract 107 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: that person. Are we freestyling, are we networking? Are we 108 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: leveraging a dating site? Are we leveraging a sugar Daddy 109 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: dating site? So there isn't going to be a one 110 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: size fits all attraction magnet. It's based on our intent. 111 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: So let me break that down. Okay, okay, So everybody 112 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: is going to want to experience something from this lifestyle, 113 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: and how we go about seeking that person to provide it. 114 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: We have to understand why they will be seeking us. 115 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: So now our thought process ship because it takes away 116 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: from what we're wanting someone to provide because I can't 117 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: possibly have some provide if I don't have someone there 118 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: to ask, So why would he want to provide me 119 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 1: this very thing? So I have to ship my thoughts 120 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: on what I can get out of him to why 121 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: would he want me? And that's how we're going to 122 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: stand out. But it's also based on and who we're 123 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: trying to attract. And I'm no judgeree here. Okay, So 124 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: when you have a Sugar Dady dating site, so I 125 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: just used as as an example, we have people from 126 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: different backgrounds people in different types of situation that made 127 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: a conscious decision to join a sugar dady dating site. 128 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Then it's why are they someone in a high position? 129 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Are they married? You know? Are they retired? Because now 130 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: when I go back and look at myself in terms 131 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: of how I want to stand out, it's what's going 132 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: to cook him and what bait do I need to 133 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: use to reel him in. So if someone is in 134 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: a situation, is he going about it discreetly? Then perhaps 135 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: how I portrayed myself, I'm going to go about it 136 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: in a discreet manner as well, because now what I'm 137 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: doing is mirroring myself so that when he comes across 138 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: my profile, it's just like wow, Okay, she doesn't have 139 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: her full profile pictures of herself showing, so it's like 140 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: why did I take them? Because I cropped myself out 141 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: of him? Because now I'm going about it discreetly as well, 142 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: So when he comes across my profile, it's like, oh, 143 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: she gets me, And then I'm going to craft my 144 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: profile saying, hey, the reason I found myself on this 145 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: site is because I'm looking for his skate, looking to 146 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: break the Monday routine. So I'm saying it about myself. 147 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: But I'm just mirroring my image from what he's seeking. 148 00:09:53,679 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: So that's how you stand out. Okay, I sa because 149 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: of your expectese. What are some results that your clients received. 150 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, well let me start with my own. 151 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: Oh all right about that later? Ah oh well, well 152 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: we can talk about it later too. So because I know, 153 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: do introduce somebody told NFL football player? Ah? Yes. So 154 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: it's like, when you come into this lifestyle, there isn't 155 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: a oh, I'm only gonna find a sugar daddy on 156 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: a dating site, right. I have women who come to 157 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: me they're like, you know what, I don't want to 158 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: use a sugar daddy datty site because at the end 159 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: of the day, a sugar daddy he is still a 160 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: man and men are everywhere. But for this particular person. 161 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: She was referred to me from my makeup artists, and 162 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: when I spoke to her, I kid you not. When 163 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: I spoke with her, she was just like, I'm trying 164 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: to attract this Falcon player I'm in Atlanta. And then 165 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, do you know him? And then she goes, no, 166 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: do you know people who know him? No? And then 167 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm asking her, well, how do you expect to get 168 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: noticed by him? She told she told me that she 169 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: was going to get tickets, try and get as close 170 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: as she can from the onto the football field. She 171 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: was going to basically scalp them when they're traveling, see 172 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: where they're staying. So when I heard that she was 173 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: going about it in a groupie mindset. That was her approach. 174 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: So this woman, when I spoke to her, she made 175 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: me believe that she was going to get this man. 176 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: And I love a challenge, So because she made this, 177 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, Okay, I'm gonna take 178 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: you on. We're gonna go get him. But I have 179 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: to make it know that she is not the average 180 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: girl next door. And although she's not the average girl 181 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: next door, is something that we can all learn from 182 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: is that she has she she has a presence here. 183 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: So she does plays, so she's known in her field. Okay, 184 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: so she has a certain look as well. But her 185 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: mindset was a groupie approach. So she was putting him 186 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: on a pedestal before she even started the game. And 187 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you got the game all wrong because 188 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: we're at the prize. But in this situation, she's trying 189 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: to attract this NFL guy and she needs to get noticed. 190 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: That's the first thing. So what I had heard do 191 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: in which he was really good at, so I had 192 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: to understand her strength. She was good at socially stocking. 193 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: And we found an opening where he was doing a 194 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: charity event and it was just for young boys and 195 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't something that was going to be a whole 196 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: white media coverage at. So what I had her do 197 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: is we found the the event where he was going 198 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: to be hosting at I had her contact the organizer 199 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: of the event. I crafted the message and yes, so 200 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: I had to one change her mindset from the groupie approach. 201 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: So that took like accession. But then we contacted the 202 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: organized or the event. We positioned her as the supporter 203 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: of the cause and the person responded and he was 204 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: just like, how can you help out? But she felt 205 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: short because she got so excited. She sent a message saying, hey, 206 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: I can help you out in any kind of way. 207 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: And because of that, when you're dealing with someone who's busy, 208 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: you have to lay it all out like this is 209 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: how I can help you, blah blah blah. Right, you're 210 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: laying it out, but the person didn't respond. And when 211 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: somebody doesn't respond, it's like, you know what, we had 212 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: the event details, we know the location, we know the 213 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: names of the people, the organizer. So she went anyway, 214 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: and when she went, the organizer went over to her 215 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: because she introduced, introduced herself, and they apologized. It was like, hey, 216 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: stay around and look around and stuff like that. So 217 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: she stayed. And what happened was the NFL guy player 218 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: friend was there, and she went over to him and 219 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: they started talking. And next thing you know, the NFL 220 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: guy walked over to his friend. The friend introduces her 221 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: tune NFL guy. Because now they know each other. They 222 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: built up this rapport in a short amount of time. 223 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: And because she had this look, she went in with 224 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: the right mindset. Numbers were exchanged, you know. So it 225 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: all came down to like the approach and having the 226 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: right mindset, but it was the intent. M And did 227 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: you tire for this service? Oh yeah? I love money. 228 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: I love line. It's like, it's not just that I 229 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: love money, but I love helping women make money and 230 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: I love that what the money can do for ourselves. 231 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why we do it, is for what 232 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: it can buy us, right, So yeah, I do. I'm 233 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: invested in those who are invested in me. Listen, how 234 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: do you feel about sugar sites? Like, do you think 235 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: there is a helpful I have a love hate relationship, 236 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: so this is known and I do collaborations with them. 237 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: But the reason why I have a love hate relationship 238 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: is that when you have a site like a sugar 239 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: dating dating site already dating site, we outnumber men. So 240 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: that means we're playing a game that's not meant for 241 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: us to win from the get go, and we can 242 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: spend so many hours trying to basically window shop for 243 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: a sugar daddy, right, and then we're wondering how come 244 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: nobody is responding because we outnumber men, And if you're 245 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: a sugar daddy on that site, it's like being in 246 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: a candy store. You have options. We don't. But so 247 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: that's my hate relationship with them, because anybody can sign 248 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: up to be a sugar dating on a sugar dady 249 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: dating site, but that doesn't mean that they are actually 250 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: real when you have scammers, pretenders, fakes and all that 251 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: in between. But what I do like about a sugar 252 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: daddy dandy site, it's like a business, and I like 253 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: to think that everybody, not even just a sugar baby, 254 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: but everybody is in the business for living the best 255 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: lifestyle that they want, right, And if you are marking yourself, 256 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: you might as well go to a place that they 257 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: have exactly what you're looking for, which is a sugar 258 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: daddy dating site. That's just smart marketing. So that's my 259 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: my love hate relationship with one. I feel like a 260 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: lot of women feel like there's an am to being 261 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: a sugar baby. Oh no, my oldest client is sixty 262 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: and then in my private support group we have the 263 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: oldest one being like sixty three. So yes, yes, how 264 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: do you know if a sugar daddy is a fake? Well? 265 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: Is he giving you what you want? You know? Because 266 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we only trust actions, 267 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: so words to me has zero value. Right. So it's 268 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: like if a guy is telling me about his toys, 269 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: they aren't my toys, those are your toys. So for 270 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: your lationship telling me that you want to get me 271 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: a house or you want me to play with your toys, 272 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: and you want to give me your toys, then it 273 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: becomes a different conversation. So we only trust actions with anything, 274 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: So that's how you know what made you want to 275 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: create community for women where you provide resources into his 276 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: on land and a generous sugar daddy. Well, that starts 277 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: with my own story on how I got to this 278 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: point because I was tired of being in relationships where 279 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: I just gave and gave that I didn't seed, you know. 280 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: And I remember a time when I was in college. 281 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: I was out with this guy and we were seeing 282 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: each other, We're dating, and it was my birthday. He 283 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: took me out and then I asked him. I was like, hey, 284 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: would you go to the opera with me? The words 285 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: that came out of his mouth was if you're paying? 286 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, hell no. I knew in 287 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: that moment there had to be a certain type of 288 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: man that would be for me. And that changed my 289 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: whole outlook on relationships because I don't want to say 290 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: certain words. Is this PG or I could just say whatever, Okay. 291 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: It's like anybody can suck for free, right And here 292 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: I am giving myself to a guy. He's getting the 293 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: cookies freely, and the next thing you know, I don't 294 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: have anything to show for it at all from this relationship. 295 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: For like a moment where we Netflix and chill that 296 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: we just watched the movie, went out and did these things. 297 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: You did nothing right. You did nothing to enhance me. 298 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: But it's no fault of their own. I just didn't 299 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: know any better. I didn't value myself. I didn't value 300 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: my needs. I didn't value on need what I wanted, 301 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: and I didn't. It's like, even with a guy who 302 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: might not be in an income bracket that you would like, 303 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: like a millionaire or somebody who's making over five thousand dollars, 304 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: it's like, if I'm wanting him to pay my bill, 305 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: I didn't even ask for it. So I'm just in 306 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: a relationship just giving. You know. I read on your 307 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: site that you said that you had a severe case 308 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: of independence syndrome, and I think a lot of women 309 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: can relate to that. Oh yes, that that's almost like 310 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: a mind funk when you think about it when you're 311 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: coming into the sugar baby lifestyle, because if the thing 312 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: is we're wanting someone to provide, but we're stuck in 313 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: the whole independent syndrome, like I can do everything myself. 314 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: There is a bit of a disconnect, and then I 315 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: had to shift my focus on like, hold on what 316 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: am I doing? And if we go back to the 317 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: analogy where if we treat our own self like a 318 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: business and we're in the business of our own lifestyle. 319 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm one person. I can't run a business by myself. 320 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: I need the right relationships around me, you know when 321 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: I go exactly, And that's what a sugar daddy symbolize. 322 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: He symbolizes the type of man that we want. He 323 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: symbolizes the spoiling, he symbolizes wealth, he symbolizes all these 324 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: things that we want. And if we remove all the labels, 325 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, isn't that what we 326 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: all want within our relationships, that we want to have 327 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: that person provide without contributing our own income to it. 328 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: I feel that we're taking care of you know. And look, 329 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: and I know that when the bill comes I don't 330 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: want to say I'm paying for it exactly unless I'm saying, 331 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, I want to. But at the end of 332 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: the day, I almost like, no, baby, you've got that 333 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: type of thing. So there's like a lot of things 334 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: that come about a sugar daddy and a sugar baby 335 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: relationship when we can take a step back and look 336 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: at what we really want out of our relationships. Because 337 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: of sugar baby. She values the provider type, she values 338 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: someone financially assisting. So now we own that and we 339 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: can be vocal about it. And I feel as though 340 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: a lot of women they can really own what they 341 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: want by being better communicators. I agree. Now, in the beginning, 342 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: how did you go about finding your sugar daddies? M h. 343 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: I was all out I was all out there. I 344 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: didn't know what I was doing and I got and 345 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: because I didn't know what I was doing, I got 346 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: taken advantage of. And that I mean, I can talk 347 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: about that if you want. Yeah, absolutely, It's like for 348 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: me and when I got into this lifestyle, Oh, this 349 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: is so many moons ago, but I'm pretty sure, just 350 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: like with someone, they came across something. And then I 351 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: came across a woman, um lead your lawson, and she 352 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: had written the book, UM Sugar Daddy Dating like one 353 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: on one. Listen to an episode you did with her. 354 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: That was a really good one, all right. So it's 355 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: like it came across her information and I came across 356 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: different blogs or different people posting different things. But I 357 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: failed to realize is that anybody can write anything. But 358 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: I don't know what they had to do to get it. 359 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: So a person can post on their Instagram boasting about 360 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: their lifestyle and doing all these things. You don't know 361 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: if she had to be on her knees, you don't know, 362 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: she only had to be behind that closed doors, and 363 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: that might not be the experience that you wants. And 364 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people be lying on Instagram, right and 365 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: it's like, you don't know, but this is like, this 366 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: is our lives here. So I was reading thinking like, okay, 367 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: you know what this life down sounds all great. And 368 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: then next thing you know, I've come across the Sugar 369 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: Dady dating site. And before I joined it was saying 370 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: everything I wanted to hear. It was just like, oh, 371 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: come to this site, You're gonna find wealthy men. And 372 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: then I did not know until later on it's like, okay, 373 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: not a lot of people make over a hundred thousands, 374 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: so this Sugar Dady dating site can't tell me that 375 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: they have millionaires, you know. So I wasn't thinking. I 376 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: got caught up in the glamor of it. So I 377 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: found myself on a dating site. Then I found myself 378 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: on a date, and I found myself behind closed doors 379 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: from that date because I was being glamored. He was 380 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: telling me everything I wanted to hear. He was shown 381 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: me from when we went out on a date, the 382 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: five star restaurant, everything. So I was getting caught up 383 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: in the moment right and with me being caught up 384 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: in the moment, I felt as though, it's like, Okay, 385 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: if he's on a sugary day side, he knows exactly 386 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: what I want and that we're on the same page. 387 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: So we so I'm just doing things based on feeling. 388 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm just going with the flow. Next thing, I know, 389 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: after we did the ded and I'm getting all excited, like, oh, 390 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: I found me a sugar daddy. He's sliding me an 391 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: envelope of money, and I'm like, damn, what just happened here? 392 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: I became that unexpected hooker and I did not even 393 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: ask for my rate, you know. And because of that, 394 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: it message with your emotional side of things and message 395 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: with your outlook, like what just happened here? What if 396 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: he didn't give me anything, I would have been walking 397 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: out like damn, I can't believe I just got used. 398 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: But because he gave me something, it's like, okay, here, 399 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, at least I have something, So I had 400 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: to take a step back to understand what I was 401 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: doing and my why. And because of that, it felt 402 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: as though this lifestyle was just glorified as scoring. That's 403 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: what it felt like to me. So I took a 404 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: step back to want to know why would a man 405 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: want to provide anything financially to a woman? Why would 406 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: anybody want to do something for another person. So with 407 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: me taking that step back, I went in a different direction. 408 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: I went in understanding human behavior, understanding marketing, understanding negotiation, 409 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: understanding more about relationships, more about communication. And I gave 410 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: myself that education in which I now share with other women. 411 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: Because now when it comes to you, my attracting a 412 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: sugar daddy and how I approached it from having gave 413 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: myself that not I attracted a platonic sugar daddy who 414 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: gave over a hundred thousand and I'm in his well 415 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: right now. Keep in mind, this is the same man 416 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: who pays a girl to come over weekly to give 417 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: a happy ending and he even takes around the dinner. 418 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: So this is the same man. So it's like, what 419 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: did I do differently? It was all in how I 420 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: own my value, own my want, position myself as the 421 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: prize and how I nurture relationships and how I go 422 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: about attracting a particular type of person. You know, so 423 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: because when I took the route of finding my own 424 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: education to want to know why what a person want 425 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: to give, it allowed me to find my rich. It 426 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: allowed me to help other people find their own good 427 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: Daddy rich as well. But mainly it allowed me to 428 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: better position myself with attracting someone and then also communicating 429 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: my needs. You know, when I listened to that episode, 430 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: I was so impressed. And I don't get impressed easily, 431 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: but I always say that it takes a certain type 432 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: of person to be able to allow people to express 433 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: themselves and for them to be in a safe space. 434 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: And when you did that episode, I was like, yo, 435 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: I gotta get her on the podcast. Um yes, And 436 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: it's like to take it a step um four, because 437 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't. It's like, when I say, you know, I 438 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: love money. Is there there's a reason why I say that? Um? 439 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: It was that is that money. Money is a tool, 440 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: Money is a resource, and that sugar Daddy he symbolizes that. 441 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 1: And outside of rich, I attracted so many different types 442 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: of men. But what I found myself doing was I 443 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: became a visitor in their world. So when you're around money, 444 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: and then when you leave that money, you're going back 445 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: to what you have. And that lifestyle didn't look nowhere 446 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: near where I came from, right where I was visiting. 447 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: So I was like, hold on, something has to change. 448 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: So it's how I changed my relationship with money, and 449 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to at that time. If I'm 450 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: asking him to financially assist me, I want him to 451 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: pay my bills bills, that's not going to make me money. 452 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: That's not going to make me rich. It's like, if 453 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: that guy gave me a thousand, three thousand, five thousand, 454 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: what am I going to do with that money and 455 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: make me more money? So I want the wealth building route. 456 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, a guy could take you shopping, that's great, 457 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: but it needs to have an impact on my life. 458 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't want future takeach like, girl, how do we 459 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: get here? What did you do with the money? You're 460 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: wearing our life right now, right and typement thing. So 461 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: I always recommend that when a woman comes searching or 462 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: seeking a sugar daddy, to really understand your why and 463 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: what you're doing it for. Because if I look at 464 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: a person's why, I can show you how to attract 465 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: the right person and just position yourself with getting what 466 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: you want, and that leads me to want to share 467 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: this with you. It's like I had a girl, she 468 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 1: went to Ivy League school, she was her background was 469 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: in finance, and then she came to me saying, find 470 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: a sugar Daddy, but I don't want to use a 471 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: sugar daddy dating site. So I said, okay, well tell 472 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: me your why. And then she was just like, well, 473 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: I want to put myself in a better position financially, 474 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: and I want to deep wealthy so that I can 475 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: invent you inviitually marry wealth. Okay. Silence was like okay. 476 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: So I looked at what she had going on and 477 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: I had her create a podcast where she only interviewed 478 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: millionaire men. M because we're only doing two things, where 479 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: one attracting someone who's in a position to provide. Right, 480 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: It's like, you can't get five thousand from a guy 481 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: who's making a hundred thousand just not gonna happen. So 482 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: a person has to be in a position to provide. 483 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: That's number one, and then a second, you just have 484 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: to communicate your knees and once and he has to 485 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: be willing to provide and see you just worth it. 486 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: So recovered the first thing her creating that podcast was right, 487 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: a line to her background with finance, just interview, wealthy 488 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: met right. So we finished the first one. We got 489 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: that out the way, attracting someone in position sex. Second 490 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: thing is if these guys aren't gay, right, things are 491 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: gonna happen naturally because now she's on the phone talking 492 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: to them. She can use her allure, she can use 493 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: her boys, and she's not being seen as someone seeking 494 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: that hand out because she's interviewing them. So her perception 495 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: of herself is already on a different level. And when 496 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: we go about asking for what we want, we're just 497 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: on it. It's like, are you the type of woman 498 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: that wants to pay all your bills? If you don't, 499 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: you're the provider. You're seeking a provider type and that's 500 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: what you value. So own that, embrace that because that's 501 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: the cost of admission to come into your world. Right. 502 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, when did you realize that you was 503 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: good at this? Um? You've been doing this a long time, man. 504 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: I think it's like with anything you hone your skills, 505 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: and you always want to get better um at your 506 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: own craft. But I think for me, it was when 507 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: I was able to take information that I learned and 508 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: I applied it to how I needed to use it 509 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: for That made a difference for me. And then I 510 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: was able to share it with someone else and then 511 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: walk them through. And because I gave myself this education 512 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: of human behavior, I'm able to adapt to other people's personalities. 513 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm not having another person coming to coming to me 514 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: and saying hate me you. I'm just like, no, it's 515 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: only one of you. You know, what is it that 516 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: you want? You know? And then I can tailor it. 517 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, no point intended, but I can hailor it 518 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: around you and your strength because I'm gonna sell my 519 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: relationships differently. When I go on a eight, I'm going 520 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 1: to be different. I'm going to create a tailor experience. 521 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: And then it's like, if you come to me, I 522 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: want to create for you around your own strength and weakness. 523 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: So I think when I knew, when I guess when 524 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: I originally knew is when I was able to start 525 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: taking information and then applying it to me and then 526 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: just with working with individuals and stuff like that but 527 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: so long ago. But yeah, so besides you recently even 528 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars and you being rich, will what 529 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: are some other things you acquire from being in this 530 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: life style? Okay? I know, I know, Okay. So it's 531 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: like everybody has their wants and needs, right, It's like 532 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: I knew that I wanted to have a guy spend 533 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: on me and stuff. So I would say things, and 534 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: I would throughout hints and stuff like that and hopefully 535 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: having the guy would hopefully the guy would catch those 536 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: hints and stuff. So it was like things just like 537 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: what I wanted, you know, I wanted laptops, clothes and 538 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But then that wasn't really having an impact, 539 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: so I went for more creating experiences. So I was 540 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: that girl that you know watching the Food Channel or 541 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: watching the travel channel. I was sit there like, oh, 542 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: I want to go there. So I would start writing 543 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: out lists of things that I wanted to do. So 544 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: it's like have your sugar list, write out everything that 545 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: you want to do and stuff like that. So I 546 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: just started creating experiences for myself. But then also I 547 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 1: wanted to further enhance my own education with different things. 548 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: So instead of having them take me shopping. I was 549 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: just like, oh, I want you to invest in this 550 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: like five thousand dollar course, two thousands stthing like that. 551 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: So I just are up in my game in terms 552 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: of that because I knew the return on investment I 553 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: would get more in the long run. And that's like 554 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: you're very strategic. Yeah, Oh, I'm very intentional with everything. 555 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: If it's like anything that I'm doing and it has 556 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: to make sense or it's just like what am I 557 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: doing it for? It's like sign up to a sugar 558 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: daddy dat Dati say okay, but why and then it's 559 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: like okay, what do I want? And then it's like okay, 560 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: why and then why do I want him to do this? 561 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: And it's like what's the next stage? Everything that I'm doing, 562 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, what do I want him to do next? 563 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: So I'm always like focused on that. So yes, I'm 564 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: definitely like strategic with everything. How do you deal with rejections? 565 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: I embrace rejection, you know, and that wasn't an easy 566 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: skill to learn but for me, and I always practiced 567 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: the art of detachment around it. You know. It's just 568 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: like when it comes to rejection, there's gonna be different 569 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: levels of rejection. It's like, are they not attracted to me? 570 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: Are they not attracted to my brown all midmocha skin tone? 571 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: You know? So it's like, at what level are they 572 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: rejecting me at? It's like, hey, I like cookies and cream, 573 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: ice cream and so, and I also like rum raisin. 574 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: But when I eat rum raisin, cookies and cream, isn't 575 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: getting mad at me? Somebody else is gonna come along 576 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: and say, you know what, let me eat some cookies 577 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: and cream. So everybody has a preference, and I and 578 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: I have to know that going in, especially when you're dating, 579 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: because we take rejection personally, even when we have our 580 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: own prefaces, because those they're gonna be guys that are 581 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: gonna be reaching out and you'll be like, you know what, 582 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: I don't like him. You just rejected him. But when 583 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: somebody come along reject you, you get all up in 584 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: your feelings. And when I practice the art of detachment, 585 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: I separate that and I take my feelings out of it, 586 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, my feelings doesn't 587 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: get me what I want. It's just cot blocks me. 588 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: So it's like saying that when it's rejection I think 589 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: of it like being like a million dollars on the table, right, 590 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: So there's a million dollars on the table, and in 591 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: between me's rejection. Look, I can go around, I could 592 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 1: jump up, I can dig a hole, I can go around. 593 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: There's always gonna be another way. So I'm always focused 594 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: on the objective. Yeah. So you know, one thing I 595 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: really like about your website and just overall your business 596 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: is how you really practice the importance of knowing your 597 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: worth while being in this lifestyle. Mm hmm. It's like, 598 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: if you don't know it, somebody else is is gonna 599 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: come around and put a price tag on you, and 600 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: when they do, it's going to be a lot less 601 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,720 Speaker 1: than what you're thinking about. So so own it whatever 602 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: it is. How do you stay focused and not get 603 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: caught up? Get caught up in what? Get caught up 604 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: in the dick? But I mean that too. It's I 605 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: feel like with you, you're very strategic. But I feel 606 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: like a lot of people sometimes may come into this 607 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: lifestylele just for like getting closed and all this other stuff. 608 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm not looking at the bigger picture. Mm hmm. OK. 609 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: For me to like not get caught up, Um, I 610 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: always have to yeah, because it's like you can get 611 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: caught up in the dick. It's like you find a 612 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: guy he's providing and he's good in the bedroom, and 613 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: now you're thinking, oh wow, he could be the one, 614 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: but you failed to realize. You know, you met him 615 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: on a sugar Daddy dating site. He made a conscious 616 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: decision to be on a sugar datty datty site. So 617 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: why so? And when I start to lose my focus, 618 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: and which you know we all have in a certain capacity, 619 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: it's just that I always go back to my why. 620 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: Why am I here? Why am I doing this? What 621 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: is it that I want? I can still enjoy my relationships, 622 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: but I can't forget about me, and I'm not going 623 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: to put someone else first. I'm gonna put myself first. 624 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: So I always come back to my why. And last, 625 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: but not least, what are your top three tips? And 626 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,959 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to get dad for the listeners. Top 627 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: three tips would be know what you want, no what 628 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: you don't want in terms of what you're willing to 629 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: do to conn. But I don't know that kind of 630 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: feels off for me. I don't want to say that. Okay, 631 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: all right, I know what you want? Know what you're 632 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: willing to give up to get what you want. And 633 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: embrace your standards. This is going to go beyond three, 634 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: but embrace your standards and really own your worth and 635 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: know that you're worth it because you're the prize here. 636 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: And if you don't feel as though you're the prize, 637 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: then we need to take a step back to really 638 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: understand why and shift our mindset to that. But I 639 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: know what you want, understand you're worth it, and sending 640 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: your boundaries and then go after it. M hm. And 641 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: I forgot to answer this one question because I want 642 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: people in know that you're like you're a business, is legit, 643 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: like you're a no joke. How many women have you coached? 644 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I would mm hmm okay. To me, 645 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: it's like a just like a your question, right, because 646 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: I have a private community where it has hundreds of 647 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: women and then you know throughout seventeen that created that 648 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: group and so many people have gone through it. Um. 649 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: I have group coaching now, you know, and I've been 650 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: doing that several years. And when I do groups, I 651 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: take on like fifty people at a time. But as 652 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: far as like my one on ones, that's just like, well, 653 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: over five hundred. But then I also do matchmaking. So 654 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: if you're listeners, look, if your listeners are needing a 655 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: sugar daddy. I have someone and he is looking for 656 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: the wife, and he is the provider type. And his 657 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: name is Jake. I saw it, yes, because his toys 658 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: can become your toys. He has the pool, he has 659 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: the boats, he has a real estate investment portfolio that 660 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: will make you swoan. So yes, I do matchmaking. And 661 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: the only thing you need to really do is if 662 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: you're compatible. Knowing that, so I don't have to have 663 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 1: an operad conversation, can you provide? I got that taken 664 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: care of what's next to you? Let's just curious? Ah, Okay. 665 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: My next level is when I'm spanding on in my 666 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: private support network. It's one thing to attract someone, but 667 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: it's through being financially savvy and understanding your relationship with money. 668 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: So the next level in which I'm doing is through 669 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: educating ourselves through financial literacy. And I have like and 670 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: I have like a team financial planners and people in 671 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: different fields. Like it's one thing to say, hey, I 672 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: want to learn about like real estate stocks and stuff 673 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: like that you might want to learn about it, but 674 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: then when you start doing it might not be your thing. 675 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: But if you have access to going through different experts 676 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: that I have, like about real estate, about stocks, financial 677 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: planning and stuff like that, UM, it really helps to 678 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: explain your own knowledge and what you're interested in to 679 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: explain your own financial portfolio. So my next level is 680 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: taking these girls out. You know what here it is, 681 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it out there all right. It's like 682 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: I want to take a hundred women. And these hundred 683 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: women they're not at the stage that we're they're making 684 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand yet I want to take a hundred 685 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: women to get them to that hundred thousand dollars status themselves. 686 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: Because when I worked with one woman, Charlene. I'm saying 687 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: her name because I did a podcast with her. It's 688 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: like with Charlyne, she came to me wanting a sugar daddy. 689 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: When I asked her why, she was just like one, 690 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: UM to leave my nine to five job. So the 691 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: goal wasn't to have a sugar daddy, it was to 692 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: leave her nine o five job. So I was like, Okay, 693 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: you're sugaring backwards. You need to make your goal the 694 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: objective and align this lifestyle around it. So when I 695 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: asked her, I was like, Okay, what are you doing 696 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: to achieve your goals? Right? And she was like, oh, well, 697 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: I want to do this whole website stuff. And then 698 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, how come you're not doing it right now? Right? 699 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 1: And then she was just like, oh, I've been waiting 700 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: for a sugar daddy to invest in me so that 701 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: I can do it. And I'm just like, Okay, you've 702 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: been at this two years before you came to me 703 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: looking for a sugar daddy. How has that worked out 704 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: for you? You could have been two years into your goals, 705 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: but now it's like, what are you doing? Time is money? 706 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 1: So it's like when I look looked at her and 707 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: her why I want to take a hundred women and 708 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: turn her turn them into what I did for Charlene, 709 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: which was we focus on her core goals. So these 710 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: have to be women who are wanting to leave like 711 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: a nine to five. But it's like with her, I 712 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: like to find money in our back pocket. And we 713 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: all have relationships that we can go and ask a 714 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: guy and say, hey, can you help me out with something? 715 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: And with her, she was dating a married guy and 716 00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: he wasn't given her anything at all. This is several 717 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: years and that I'm like, you know what, hold on, No, 718 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: this can't happen, not on my watch. So when I 719 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: asked her why, because I was curious, like, how are 720 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: you dating a guy he's not doing anything for you. 721 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: Something happened to him. The wife get the benefits. But 722 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: when I asked her that she goes. He was the 723 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: only one that told me that I was beautiful, and 724 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: that broke my heart because there's so many women out 725 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 1: here who run to the first guy that comes across 726 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: their path and they don't even own what they really 727 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: are in terms of their value and their standards. They 728 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: just take that first guy whoever comes across their paths. 729 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: So here is Charlene in a relationship with the merry guy. 730 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: So I had her go to the married guy after 731 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: we created her plan, because if a guy give you 732 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: any kind of money, you have to know what to 733 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: do with it to make it grow. She didn't know 734 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: how to make a girl, but I did. So we 735 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: worked on her her core goals, building up her business 736 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: right and within one year when we ship to her focus, 737 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: it's like with one year, she was making over five 738 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: grand of her own money, you know, and that was 739 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: just a change. And what if she never came across 740 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: someone like myself, she would have been on this path, 741 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: stuck on a dating site. So I want to take 742 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 1: like a hundred women, get them over that hundred thousand 743 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: dollars status of their own money, but showing them how 744 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: to leverage their relationships better. So that's my goal. I 745 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna go apart too, because I feel 746 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: like once this episode dropsed Man, the listeners are gonna 747 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: be going crazy. Hey, let's do that whole like um, 748 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: like changing your relationships of money, because if you look 749 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: at money, look at your relationships, if you are dealing 750 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 1: with rug people, that's going to be a reflection in 751 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: your bank account. It's like, I know, with me, I 752 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: couldn't get rich around broke people. And the people in 753 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: my social environment at that time. We're friends who are 754 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: always wanting to go to places where they can get 755 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: in free, where it had to be a certain hour 756 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: or we had to hit a happy hour, doing all 757 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: these things. And then when I'm like, you know what, 758 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna travel, I'm gonna do all these things, they 759 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: can't afford it and I'm not the type that's just 760 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: going to allow my lifestyle to be on whole to 761 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 1: be around people who can't do the things that I want. 762 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: So I went in the other way. I was like, 763 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 1: you know what, it's okay to travel by yourself. It's 764 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: okay to do things. It's okay to find another social 765 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: circle to level up. It's okay, you know, because a 766 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: lot of times, when you're trying to evolve yourself, you're 767 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: gonna be doing a whole lot of stuff alone if 768 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,479 Speaker 1: your immediate social circle doesn't provide you with that next 769 00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: level mentality facts. I am so happy that we had 770 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: this conversation. I was like, when I'm telling me I 771 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: heard your podcast, I'm like, listen, I gotta have her 772 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,439 Speaker 1: on this uh podcast? Like, oh, so, thank you so much. 773 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: I know you have a call really soon. Um, if 774 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: you have any questions comments with Acerns, please make sure 775 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 1: to email me a hello at the PhD podcast dot com. 776 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: And I have a feeling that I will be scarcely 777 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: a part two with her very soon. All right, look, 778 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: you might be on my podcast soon. So yes, yes 779 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: you're I'm gonna keep you posted with some things I'll 780 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: tell you got it off the air, but thank you 781 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: so much and until next time everyone Later,