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Speaker 1: More bricks being laid on the road of the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty fourth season, the one hundred and fifth in Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears history. With the start of Rookie Minicamp later this week,
Speaker 1: and we welcome into episode sixty seven of the Bears
Speaker 1: et Cetera Podcast.
Speaker 2: Jeff Joniac here with Super Bowl winning Bears.
Speaker 1: Guard Tom Thayer, a broadcast partner and our special guest
Speaker 1: this week, who had a memorable rookie season for the
Speaker 1: Bears back in nineteen ninety, the sixth overall pick from USC,
Speaker 1: the NFL defensive rookie of the Year, a three time
Speaker 1: Pro Bowler, Mark Carrier aka the Hammer. The Hammer. You know,
Speaker 1: we're old school football here, so we love the big
Speaker 1: hits and you delivered plenty and you know, tell us
Speaker 1: the story of the Hammer though, where that came from.
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because you know this generation and then
Speaker 3: my kids who are My son is twenty eight, my
Speaker 3: daughter's twenty six, they have no clue about this. But
Speaker 3: it's funny. You know, people my football life people know
Speaker 3: me as Hammer. Everybody else outside of that know me
Speaker 3: as as Mark. And my college life everybody know me
Speaker 3: as aircraft carrier. So it's funny how we all have
Speaker 3: a different world. But how Hammer came about, you know,
Speaker 3: at the time, people have to understand m. C. Hammer
Speaker 3: was really big at the time in early ninees. He
Speaker 3: was big, you know, was blown up in the nineties.
Speaker 3: But how I got the name is in practice and
Speaker 3: then sometimes in games, mostly in games, I would hit
Speaker 3: Chico Ron Rivere a couple of times the signatory.
Speaker 5: I just nigged him in.
Speaker 2: The back friendly fire, friendly.
Speaker 3: Fire, and uh. And I remember Chico one time telling
Speaker 3: me Mark, I you hit me one more time, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna kick your ass on the field. So and so
Speaker 3: so the person who actually really named me gave me
Speaker 3: that name was U was Ron Rivera Chico. He named
Speaker 3: me hammer because I was hammering those guys in the
Speaker 3: back of times it was empty hammer was big at
Speaker 3: that time.
Speaker 5: So that's when I ran with that theory.
Speaker 6: You know, Mark, I was, you know, just kind of
Speaker 6: reminiscent about your career and thinking back about when you
Speaker 6: came aboard, how you're drafted from USC. But then I
Speaker 6: also saw a video of you and the first highlight
Speaker 6: they showed of you was launching into a tackle, and
Speaker 6: so it made me think immediately, Okay, the funds that
Speaker 6: you would have had to supply the league for some
Speaker 6: of the hits that you had oh and fifty. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but you know what, what, because you're so still involved
Speaker 6: in the sport and the way that the game of
Speaker 6: the safety have to morph into a more legalized hitting,
Speaker 6: do you think they're kind of making the tackling target
Speaker 6: too difficult for the safety position?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, well for anyone really, it's just so hard
Speaker 3: Tommy and Jeff. Is that because they and I get
Speaker 3: it why they're doing it. We all understand safety. Safety
Speaker 3: is always going to be a big part of it,
Speaker 3: not just for the not just for the person you're hitting,
Speaker 3: but also for the players hitting. But what happens is
Speaker 3: you don't take an account what the other player, the
Speaker 3: one you're going to tackle, what he might do, meaning
Speaker 3: how he might react as far as dunkling not ducking
Speaker 3: going hot when those split second situations happened, I might
Speaker 3: have a target on you right around your belly button,
Speaker 3: but if you react and turn a certain way, I
Speaker 3: might nail you in the side of the head depending
Speaker 3: on how you react.
Speaker 6: So you know, Mark and it kind of will I'll
Speaker 6: eventually lead into Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4: However, would you think of the school that you came from.
Speaker 6: You think of some of the guys that played the
Speaker 6: position before you, guys like Ronnie Lott and stuff. When
Speaker 6: you play a position at USC that has Hall of
Speaker 6: Famers and some of the best that ever played the
Speaker 6: position like that, do you have to carry that on
Speaker 6: to your USC career and then carry that out of
Speaker 6: your NFL career. Because I'm so familiar with the rivalry
Speaker 6: between Notre Dame and USC, and I know a lot
Speaker 6: of the great names that have come out of USC,
Speaker 6: But when you think about the position success that's come
Speaker 6: out of at USC, the safety position is.
Speaker 4: One of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we talked about the SC greats. Tim McDonald,
Speaker 3: Ronnie Dennis Smith. Both those guys should be in a
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, and I think obviously Troy Paul malve
Speaker 3: isn't a Hall of Fame. Dennis Thurman another one who
Speaker 3: set the standards. My big thing initially when I went
Speaker 3: to USC, Tom and Jeff was I just wanted to
Speaker 3: be I wanted those guys to come and when they
Speaker 3: saw me, I felt good about my play and that
Speaker 3: I was owning up holding up my of the legacy
Speaker 3: and the defensive backs. That's all I wanted. I just
Speaker 3: want to be included in their name. You know, the
Speaker 3: best is always subjective. In my mind, Ronnie Lott's one
Speaker 3: of the best football players ever played in college or pro.
Speaker 3: But I just wanted to make sure when I played
Speaker 3: and I represented the USC that those guys felt really
Speaker 3: good about my play and how I did. Now the
Speaker 3: flipside of that, as you take that to the NFL,
Speaker 3: as we came after ninety three and the CBA start
Speaker 3: changing and they start putting more emphasis on safetyes the
Speaker 3: rules of safety in the game, and you're going out
Speaker 3: flying around hidding people, especially leading with your helmet. That
Speaker 3: became a final offense. And you mentioned earlier it talked
Speaker 3: about target and I'm all four and I coached an
Speaker 3: NFL for ten years, so I had to teach guys
Speaker 3: how to hit proper ways of hitting the target. And
Speaker 3: you you know, you always have to lower your target.
Speaker 3: But if you're going again to part that, the NFL
Speaker 3: doesn't take it, because I don't think taken consideration. Is
Speaker 3: is that I'm going at you, Tom, and I'm aiming
Speaker 3: at your belt buckle, your belly button, and I'm going
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you see me and you
Speaker 3: embrace a turn or something and drop your body, drop
Speaker 3: your head or something, and all of a sudden we
Speaker 3: hit helmets. I can't control that. That that that was
Speaker 3: an instinctive of reaction. That wasn't my target. There's one
Speaker 3: thing about believe I mean, and they've gotten better and
Speaker 3: you and I've had it where I've left my feet,
Speaker 3: go airborne and trying to just knock the guy out.
Speaker 3: But the difference of now where you're trying to target
Speaker 3: and bring your target down low. You do that, but
Speaker 3: sometimes you can't control with the other player and how
Speaker 3: it reacts and then you're not And when that happens,
Speaker 3: I think when they study it back in New York.
Speaker 3: They have to be a little bit more cautious of Okay,
Speaker 3: how did this happen? Did he leave his bed?
Speaker 5: He was he going.
Speaker 3: Projecting out to don't take a guy, try to hit
Speaker 3: a guy in his face? Or was he least trying
Speaker 3: to aim the right way? And the reaction of the
Speaker 3: player maybe cast some of that.
Speaker 1: Mark carry our guest here on the Bears et Cetera podcast.
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Speaker 1: two carbs per twelve ounces. The Bears picking you at
Speaker 1: number six, and at that time it was okay to
Speaker 1: pick safeties in the top ten.
Speaker 2: Nobody was wigging out, right, nobody.
Speaker 1: Was wigging out. But and so you were one of them.
Speaker 1: H what's that I made?
Speaker 5: The trends started going downward after that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sure did. Caden Bodok out of us. He
Speaker 1: picked in the third round this year by the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: When you got to the Bears, they then decided, okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to part company with a four time pro bowler,
Speaker 1: Dave do it, the late Dave Doors, and so he
Speaker 1: went on to the Giants to make room essentially for
Speaker 1: you and put Sean Gale down to strong sae. So,
Speaker 1: as a rookie, what did that do for your pressure?
Speaker 1: Because you're on a veteran team, they're looking at you
Speaker 1: to be the last line of defense with a great
Speaker 1: pass rush, and here you take the ball away ten times.
Speaker 3: Well, first, let's you know, I have to pay respect
Speaker 3: to to double d Dave Dorrison because even when I
Speaker 3: came in, one of the first people to really reach
Speaker 3: out and help me get acclimated to the NFL was
Speaker 3: was Dave Dorson. I mean Dave, and he knew the business,
Speaker 3: knew what was going on, but that didn't stop him
Speaker 3: from really helping me try to get acclimated, help me
Speaker 3: learn the defense, learn the NFL ways. I owe him,
Speaker 3: you know a lot, and he you know, he kind
Speaker 3: of knew what was going on, but I didn't stop
Speaker 3: him from really helping me get get get assimilated to
Speaker 3: NFL lifestyle. Go figure a nore name guy helping the
Speaker 3: guy who I thought. But if my old Dave, you
Speaker 3: know a lot for that, I have nothing but positive, uh,
Speaker 3: respect and admiration for Dave, but what he did for
Speaker 3: me for my career. But coming into the Bears and
Speaker 3: Tom was part of that team, it was still a
Speaker 3: lot of those eighty five team that still hovers even
Speaker 3: today in Chicago, hovers big on the loom, loom large
Speaker 3: in the city and rightfully so. It was it before
Speaker 3: their time. The characters that they had and how they
Speaker 3: went about doing you know what they did and knew
Speaker 3: what you were going to do.
Speaker 5: Uh. And to come in.
Speaker 3: There and and and replace a positive a popular player
Speaker 3: that was that was tough. They didn't and they they
Speaker 3: they got after. They got after me pretty good at times,
Speaker 3: and not because they didn't like me. Is that what
Speaker 3: I've learned at the time, And I tell this to
Speaker 3: players when I get a chance to mentor him. They
Speaker 3: weren't harsh on me, especially in training camp early, because
Speaker 3: they didn't like me. They just didn't know me and
Speaker 3: they didn't trust me. Yet they had to. I had
Speaker 3: to established a trust with those guys, with the veteran guys,
Speaker 3: with the Hampton It's a singletary Richard Dentz, Big Michaels,
Speaker 3: those Ronald, those guys, Sean Giellismith. Those guys didn't know
Speaker 3: they could trust me yet. They didn't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: in case point one time. Tommy probably won't remember this.
Speaker 3: It's late October or something, early late October. We're going
Speaker 3: out for a walk through. And I got all I
Speaker 3: got my footage, sweatshirt, I got all sweatshirts, float pants,
Speaker 3: I got everything on. You know, it's only what maybe
Speaker 3: sixty sixty high degrees or something for a California guy,
Speaker 3: but like thirty five and I'm going out to the
Speaker 3: field with all that gear on, just for a walk through.
Speaker 5: And these guys are looking at me, waiting as me
Speaker 5: and Tom knows that. You know, Jeff, that old facility was.
Speaker 3: You walk up a hill a ramp to the field
Speaker 3: and ever sitting there looking at me, and they're like,
Speaker 3: what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 5: I said, what do you mean? I'm going for the walkthrough?
Speaker 5: What the hell you got all that? Take that?
Speaker 3: Go back in that uh and go take that crap off.
Speaker 3: You're not walking out here with that on. I don't
Speaker 3: like to screw you guys. I'm going out here because
Speaker 3: I need to. I want to go to walk through.
Speaker 3: You can't tell me what to wear. Hey, and finally hey,
Speaker 3: either you take it off, We're going to take it off.
Speaker 3: I know, I got smart. I went to and I
Speaker 3: was I was somewhat mad, went through practice, but Mike
Speaker 3: Singletary came over to me afterwards. Mike afterwards and put
Speaker 3: his arm you know, and say, young man, as he
Speaker 3: called me, young man, do you understand what they were doing?
Speaker 3: I said, Mike, they were trying to test me. They're
Speaker 3: trying to pump me. They try to see the Bible,
Speaker 3: you know, just try to see. They just want to
Speaker 3: pump me. Said no, it wasn't nothing had to do
Speaker 3: with had nothing to do with that. They were worried
Speaker 3: that they see you coming out in sixty degree whether dressed,
Speaker 3: trying to stay warm. They're worried that when we go
Speaker 3: to Green Bay in December and it's thirty below, you're
Speaker 3: not gonna be Are you gonna be worried about staying
Speaker 3: warm or be worried about doing your job. They want
Speaker 3: to know you can that they can trust you. Because
Speaker 3: I was called me and Mike gave the signals. They
Speaker 3: want to be able to trust you, to know that
Speaker 3: in certain situations that you're gonna be they can trust you.
Speaker 5: To do your job.
Speaker 3: If you can't do that, they don't want to play
Speaker 3: with So that was kind of a lack of lesson
Speaker 3: for me for football establishing trust. They wanted to know
Speaker 3: they can trust me when it counted on the road,
Speaker 3: in tough situations.
Speaker 1: You know, Mark, when mini camp starts, it's I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys even had a rookie mini camp,
Speaker 1: did you guys? Yeah, So what advice would you give
Speaker 1: this group? This selection of five and a lot of
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents and a lot of try out guys.
Speaker 2: They're going to try to make the roster.
Speaker 1: This is their first introduction to the playbook and how
Speaker 1: things will go when the veterans get going in OTAs
Speaker 1: and on the mini camp. Just the acclamation period. Some
Speaker 1: coaches have decided to say, hey, you're just gonna have
Speaker 1: here for one day. Here's the acclamation go back. We're
Speaker 1: going to go OTAs with the vets. Do you think
Speaker 1: there's benefits for guys like Caleb Williams, Roma Dunze, Karan
Speaker 1: Amidaji all these guys that are coming in this week.
Speaker 3: Well for the opposite for the quarterback, I mean, this
Speaker 3: is your guy. You need to get him as with
Speaker 3: your veteran guys as soon as possible, because he's you've
Speaker 3: already established this is our guy going forward. They've done
Speaker 3: a great job Ryan Bulls and the group in Cunning Heaven,
Speaker 3: who I know, well, I've done a great job of
Speaker 3: assimilating a really good positive group around of this young quarterback.
Speaker 3: So you've got to get him going with those guys
Speaker 3: as soon as possible. So you've got to get him going.
Speaker 3: They didn't go through his lumps and bumps him justin.
Speaker 3: And the biggest thing, and I'm sure I'm curious that
Speaker 3: Tom felt the same thing, is the speed of the game.
Speaker 3: Understanding the speed of the game. It's one thing you're
Speaker 3: hit gonna be spinning no matter what because you're getting
Speaker 3: to new targeting, new language. But the speed of the
Speaker 3: game is so much more mentally faster than just physically
Speaker 3: faster that you have to get that. You've got it
Speaker 3: quicker you get I remember leaving mini camp after our
Speaker 3: mini camp, going home, you know, upset, telling my mom,
Speaker 3: I don't like to do this. Everybody, Tom, Tom Waddles
Speaker 3: of the worlds were moving faster than me. Go figure
Speaker 3: that at that time, because you were trying to process things.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to process things, but it's process
Speaker 3: so much faster. The physical will come. It's that processing
Speaker 3: the mental part of the game so much quicker and
Speaker 3: adjustments on the fly is you you You can't duplicate that.
Speaker 3: You just got to get thrown into the fire and
Speaker 3: then work to figure it out and just take take
Speaker 3: a step at a time. Take a step at a time.
Speaker 3: Learn from the aventuroom. Guys ask questions because that's the
Speaker 3: best you're going to do. Because they know you're going
Speaker 3: to be our guy. You need to know they can
Speaker 3: be that they can count on you. That you want
Speaker 3: to get You wanted to learn, you want to get better.
Speaker 6: You know, Mark, the first time I rented the line
Speaker 6: of scrimmage in nine on seven up in Plattel and
Speaker 6: the singletary and the whole crew were standing in front
Speaker 6: of me, McMichael hamp Richard, and they called the offensive
Speaker 6: play and I the speed at which I saw those
Speaker 6: guys move, I kind of thought to myself, I don't
Speaker 6: know if I'm capable of this. But then a thousand
Speaker 6: reps later, then you start figuring out, okay, I can
Speaker 6: do this.
Speaker 4: This is what I got to do. This is where
Speaker 4: I got to be and all that.
Speaker 6: So just from play one to play one hundred to
Speaker 6: play one thousand, your whole mindset changes, and I think
Speaker 6: that really affects the value of where you're giving your
Speaker 6: self confidence and where you can go. But there's one
Speaker 6: thing I wanted to ask you about Caleb, because you
Speaker 6: talked about all the great safeties that have been at
Speaker 6: USC and kind of the pressure of the position, the
Speaker 6: pageantry of USC football, And I've been there in some
Speaker 6: big games in the coliseum and you see the movie
Speaker 6: stars standing on the sidelines, you see the cheerleaders, you
Speaker 6: just see the effects of USC football. You think in
Speaker 6: the modern day football, something like that and the success
Speaker 6: that Caleb has have has had, it'll help him acclimate
Speaker 6: to the outside of the responsibilities of the on field
Speaker 6: stuff because of what you've already been exposed to in
Speaker 6: the star studded part of USC football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think from a social standpoint, this kid is
Speaker 3: because he's been in that spotlight comedy since he was
Speaker 3: in you know, high school, going to Gonzaga outside of
Speaker 3: DC and going to Oklahoma. I mean he played in
Speaker 3: the top pick, a five star pick, a recruit played
Speaker 3: at Oklahoma, which has a great tradition. Then he goes
Speaker 3: to USC which is that and only does have a tradition.
Speaker 3: He has a social tradition that you talked about, and
Speaker 3: then come to Chicago. I don't think that part is
Speaker 3: going to that's going to be such a bomberser. He
Speaker 3: I mean, he just when you see him doing different things,
Speaker 3: like you saw him at the Cups game the other day,
Speaker 3: and he's okay in that scenario, he's so far knock
Speaker 3: on wood. He's able to deal with that. Now. What
Speaker 3: he's going to have to see, as we all playing
Speaker 3: for the Bears, is when there's when you get in
Speaker 3: and everybody loves you, and then you go through. You
Speaker 3: don't have success right away and love. The beauty of
Speaker 3: our fans and the Bears fans is that they're passionate
Speaker 3: about the team. They're going to be there good, bad,
Speaker 3: or whatever, and they're going to express theirselves whether you're
Speaker 3: doing good or whether you're doing bad. Just be able
Speaker 3: to you know, understand you're going to get that, but
Speaker 3: block that out, not take it so personal, and just
Speaker 3: stay focused on the job a head of being trying
Speaker 3: to be successful within your teammate. I think from the
Speaker 3: social standboard, I think he'll be fined. It's just him
Speaker 3: being playing for an NFL team and dealing with the
Speaker 3: social you know, that society that comes with it playing
Speaker 3: for the Bears and being a quarterback. Just be able
Speaker 3: to handle that. I think once he's able to deal
Speaker 3: with that and stay focused on being you know, just hey,
Speaker 3: worry about winning, worry about your teammates. That other part
Speaker 3: will take care of yourself. That I think you'll be okay.
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Speaker 5: But wait a minute, one spot behind butt Head? How old?
Speaker 5: How did you get behind it? Kicker?
Speaker 1: I didn't even notice that one. Tom, tell him, tell
Speaker 1: them what you always say when you're going. It's brought
Speaker 1: up the year on the on the Bears one hundred
Speaker 1: list ahead of.
Speaker 4: Jay Cutler, one ahead of Jay Cutler.
Speaker 5: But I'm one behind Kevin. But head there's a difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is definitely definitely a difference.
Speaker 1: I mean that means and I'm thirteen, right, we didn't
Speaker 1: look at it that way.
Speaker 5: I feel better already.
Speaker 1: Now, Oh my gosh, how much did you watch Caleb?
Speaker 1: How much did you watch pac twelve football? Did you
Speaker 1: watch any roma doonsay? And as a safety? CN that
Speaker 1: guy big and strong and a fifty to fifty ball
Speaker 1: catcher with speed, joining Keenan Allen and DJ Moore and
Speaker 1: Cole Commett and Gerald Everett and DeAndre Swift and Khalil Herbert.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's all the analysts are saying, this is
Speaker 1: the most ideal situation for a rookie quarterback and for
Speaker 1: that matter, a rookie receiver to make an instant impact.
Speaker 1: You couldn't get any better scenario, correct.
Speaker 3: I mean, they've done a great job of building a team.
Speaker 3: I mean the new NFL these days is you want
Speaker 3: to be successful early. You have to take a chance
Speaker 3: on a young quarterback, but you better have the pieces
Speaker 3: around him while he's on his rookie deal, so you
Speaker 3: can go out and pay and get the pieces needed to.
Speaker 5: Be success.
Speaker 6: I kind of think about coverage and the way the
Speaker 6: defensive coordinators inside the division are thinking. So the Bears
Speaker 6: break the huddle and they got Cole comment at the
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage and they got rom Keenan and DJ
Speaker 6: out as a safety. Are you covering? Are you covering
Speaker 6: Cole or are you playing deep?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: A lot has to depend on you know what, what
Speaker 3: do you have? What do you have upfront? I mean,
Speaker 3: the game is so much different now, Tommy, as you know,
Speaker 3: it's so much more spread out. There's so much more
Speaker 3: rules to allow offenses to.
Speaker 5: To be able to take advantage of what the defense.
Speaker 3: And one thing everybody talked about, like against Brady and
Speaker 3: Peyton Manning and guys like that, is that they knew
Speaker 3: the defense as what as they knew as you did,
Speaker 3: almost because they knew where you're in maner's own and
Speaker 3: how you rotating to. They understood where the weak spots
Speaker 3: are the defense. And I'm a big proponent. I was
Speaker 3: very fortunate to learn under try and boat Buddy's son
Speaker 3: and defenses. And I'm a big proponent. Hey, all right,
Speaker 3: we're going to go in this game. What are we
Speaker 3: taking away? Well, we're going to make sure we take
Speaker 3: away to run. To make sure we take it away
Speaker 3: to run, but they can't do that, And then who
Speaker 3: and who do we need to make sure we don't
Speaker 3: get beat over top? But do that and then you
Speaker 3: just got to rally and make adjustments as the game go.
Speaker 3: As part of the game on Sunday, it's always about adjustments.
Speaker 3: But you can't just worry about who you are. You
Speaker 3: double ta dj more, you double the team and allen
Speaker 3: or comment or something.
Speaker 5: You got to figure out that.
Speaker 3: Okay, we've got to do this, stop this run, make
Speaker 3: sure the receivers don't get on top of us, and
Speaker 3: just see if we can make it. Just grind it
Speaker 3: out patiently and make let them if they're comfortable enough
Speaker 3: and pishing up and mark their way down the field
Speaker 3: and see you and then play get red zonet a
Speaker 3: red zone defense and see what.
Speaker 5: We could do.
Speaker 3: But if you just hone in on one person, one
Speaker 3: thing with that with the way they're off to set
Speaker 3: up you know, you'll you'll get your head spinning. You're
Speaker 3: playing you were playing like your terminology, play like you're
Speaker 3: trying to play down here or playing uphill u you
Speaker 3: catching on your heels all the time. So you just
Speaker 3: got to be solid. You gotta hope you've got a
Speaker 3: good personnel. They get pressure on the quarterback, and uh
Speaker 3: stop the run and then make sure you keep everything
Speaker 3: in front of you.
Speaker 6: Now you're coach Mark Carrier, but you're on the offensive
Speaker 6: side of the ball. What are the first you know,
Speaker 6: five things that you're gonna get Caleb acclimated to so
Speaker 6: he can expedite this learning process.
Speaker 3: Oh that's now, that's a that's a that's a good question, obviously,
Speaker 3: and it sounds med you, it sounds silly, but being
Speaker 3: able to get in and out of huddle kid, making
Speaker 3: sure you haven't received because I mean, just that alone
Speaker 3: saves you a lot of How many times have we
Speaker 3: seen over you guys have done a ton of games
Speaker 3: where you know, quarter coaches are calling coming out of
Speaker 3: a timeout, having to call another timeout, or coming off
Speaker 3: a dead ball, and you're you're not set, your office
Speaker 3: ain't ready to go, and you got a burden time
Speaker 3: out so just that alone, just be able to control,
Speaker 3: get into huddle, let him know you it's your huddle,
Speaker 3: taken froll of the huddle. Don't be intimidated by these guys.
Speaker 3: You've got to be the man to make sure that's
Speaker 3: that one for me. But obviously as a you know,
Speaker 3: as a quarterback, as a safety, has got to be
Speaker 3: number one making sure and then the terminology making sure
Speaker 3: you understand, I'm calling Lincoln Riley right now and asking, Okay,
Speaker 3: what does he do well?
Speaker 5: How does he do this?
Speaker 3: You've got to make it as simple and easy for
Speaker 3: this kid to make sure for him going forward, and
Speaker 3: then as he learned, then you build the office from there.
Speaker 3: So I want to I want to get that, and
Speaker 3: I'm making sure throws. Matchups, everything's about matchups. Where with
Speaker 3: this offense, you've got it, like you talked about earlier,
Speaker 3: who do you who do you take away?
Speaker 5: What are the matchups?
Speaker 3: Where?
Speaker 5: Where? Where's your outlet?
Speaker 3: Understanding where your outlet is and knowing that, hey, you're
Speaker 3: gonna have someone deep, someone in front, someone over your
Speaker 3: tight end, someone over the ball, someone in the flat.
Speaker 3: You got outlets, don't nothing out there? You know, be
Speaker 3: afraid to drop it and take what you can get. Uh,
Speaker 3: and I want my running game, my tight end into
Speaker 3: my running game as I always going to be the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Best friends, so make sure you got the running.
Speaker 4: Game outside the offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, yes, besides you, guys, Hildeburg van Horn important
Speaker 3: you guys, You guys.
Speaker 4: I love you guys. You guys.
Speaker 5: Don't be a loud way.
Speaker 3: You guys used to let me work out, which you
Speaker 3: guys late in the year, late in the days, I thought,
Speaker 3: But yeah, I get my running game because my best
Speaker 3: friend's gonna, hey, take the pressure off that running game.
Speaker 3: And then the other thing with Caleb I want to
Speaker 3: do is, hey, don't be afraid. You're a good athlete.
Speaker 3: You move around. It's okay to keep your eyes. It
Speaker 3: eight there. You can start to scramble, but don't be
Speaker 3: afraid to take off and move and get party of
Speaker 3: the yardists. Just don't take a side, don't force it.
Speaker 3: You don't have to to stay. Just we can get
Speaker 3: those few things going there. We'll have a good office.
Speaker 3: You've got a good personnel around you.
Speaker 1: All right, you had ten interceptions as a rookie, and uh,
Speaker 1: did you think you're going to get ten interceptions the
Speaker 1: rest of your career like this was no big deal
Speaker 1: because you had the pass rush of of Hall of famers.
Speaker 1: As it turns out to be, you wound up with
Speaker 1: thirty two. That's a big number, but you know it
Speaker 1: stuns me. Like Paul Cross in the NFL at eighty
Speaker 1: one interceptions eighty one, Kevin Byn's got twenty eight. Our
Speaker 1: new free safety.
Speaker 5: Yeah, at that time we're throwing. Wasn't a premium that wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it was the run game.
Speaker 5: It wasn't.
Speaker 3: So you know what, I think I was the only
Speaker 3: one in the whole state of Illinois he realized that
Speaker 3: you're not going to get ten interceptions in your career.
Speaker 3: Everybody else thought because that it's funny and I'm curious
Speaker 3: to Tommy's thought of him as individual is that I
Speaker 3: tell people all the time, I played better, only had
Speaker 3: two interceptions.
Speaker 5: My second year. I played better.
Speaker 3: I grated out much better my second year than I
Speaker 3: did my first year, just because I had a better
Speaker 3: understanding of the defense. I knew things better when I did.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you when I'm old too, I've been
Speaker 3: hitting a head too. But after that rookie year, I
Speaker 3: couldn't tell you all lot of things that went on.
Speaker 5: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I was just going on instinct and making sure I
Speaker 3: was where I needed to be. For my second year,
Speaker 3: I had a much more grafts of the defense. I
Speaker 3: knew anything. I saw things better. I was in better position,
Speaker 3: a lot more, I made less had I grated out,
Speaker 3: like I said, way better than I did my rookie year.
Speaker 5: But I didn't have the interceptions. You know.
Speaker 3: I ended up actually broke my wrists the second game
Speaker 3: of the season that year, So I played with a
Speaker 3: broken wrist the whole year and have surgery to end
Speaker 3: of January. But it's just that's just the reality. So
Speaker 3: you make adjustment. Part of the game is making adjustment.
Speaker 3: People make adjustments, people understand the defense. You as a player,
Speaker 3: you have to make adjustments.
Speaker 6: It's kind of some of that stuff is spilled forward
Speaker 6: as well, because when you think of the amount of
Speaker 6: sacks that some of these teams have gotten back in
Speaker 6: the day when they had seven step drops and an
Speaker 6: offensive tackle had no security to the right, to the left,
Speaker 6: or behind him, and now everything shotgun, three step drop, RPO,
Speaker 6: get the ball out of your hand, And I think
Speaker 6: it's more difficult to get sacks nowadays than it was
Speaker 6: back in the day when athleticism at the quarterback position
Speaker 6: wasn't a premium and some of those guys had no escapability. So,
Speaker 6: you know, it's that's one of the cool things about football.
Speaker 6: Mark from your you know, we never had a rookie
Speaker 6: mini camp, and then you go into coaching, and then
Speaker 6: you're coaching rookie mini camps, and then you come in
Speaker 6: with incredible expectations on you because you're the six player
Speaker 6: picked in the draft out of USC and they didn't
Speaker 6: bring you in to play special teams. They brought you
Speaker 6: into be a starter, you know, the first day you
Speaker 6: got there. And so I do think that's kind of
Speaker 6: the unique things that we're fortunate they have played a
Speaker 6: long enough time and then we get to watch the
Speaker 6: way football has developed, whether it benefits a defensive back,
Speaker 6: benefits an offensive lineman, or you know some of the
Speaker 6: other analytics and stats that are a result because of it.
Speaker 3: Well here's my thought talking about right, you know, the
Speaker 3: numbers aren't to say because the game has changed you
Speaker 3: so much, I think, and and I'm not being critical.
Speaker 3: I am being critical, but I'm not picking on I
Speaker 3: think offensive line play is deteriorated greatly over the years
Speaker 3: because everybody's always in a two point stands and they're
Speaker 3: just kicking kickbacking and you know, just get get good
Speaker 3: enough to the RPOs the balls out into this uh
Speaker 3: his hands, and I think offensive linement. I think one
Speaker 3: of the biggest things that suffered greatly is in the
Speaker 3: offensive alignment because of this new RPO system, because they
Speaker 3: really don't have to do much run blocking when you
Speaker 3: put your hand in dirt and grind a guy out
Speaker 3: like I think the only one who's did that was
Speaker 3: Hardball and Michigan. Everybody else was still doing the RPOs
Speaker 3: and everything. So I think if there's a group that's
Speaker 3: that's really hamper got hampered the most by the change
Speaker 3: of the offense, is that For me, it's been the
Speaker 3: offensive alignment telling.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, Mark, I think of ten interceptions or
Speaker 6: a thousand yard rusher. To me, ten interception guy is
Speaker 6: more difficult nowadays than it is, even though there's a
Speaker 6: less of a premium on having a single running back.
Speaker 6: If you have a single running back thousand yards and
Speaker 6: that big of a benchmark with seventeen games, But even
Speaker 6: with seventeen games ten interceptions. I think it's it's difficult
Speaker 6: to come by in these days. You had that kid
Speaker 6: from Dallas this year who you know, had six or
Speaker 6: eight interceptions, but still in seventeen games, wasn't reaching ten,
Speaker 6: especially how much they.
Speaker 4: Throw the ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that's why the number, you know, ten,
Speaker 3: I think it's only happened since I played maybe twice.
Speaker 1: Well, there was an eleven year period when no one
Speaker 1: did it after you. That's a pretty pretty significant over
Speaker 1: a decade. So yeah, it's hard. Diggs, you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's gotten there. Some others have, but yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: a rare thing.
Speaker 3: I think less than five times since it's just just
Speaker 3: doesn't happen, you know, seems to get smarter, they figure
Speaker 3: out why when I got photo over there, you.
Speaker 5: Need tip balls.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just so big, Like Tom was saying earlier,
Speaker 3: the pass rush, it's back as it was before. You know,
Speaker 3: you're not taking seven step drops anymore. I mean, things
Speaker 3: are just the game changes. It just evolved, and I
Speaker 3: dropped like three of them met so I mean I
Speaker 3: remember more. It's like, damn, I brought three interceptions that year.
Speaker 3: People don't realize that.
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Speaker 2: Also?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I end up doing. I still when I can,
Speaker 5: I still I end up doing. I did four games
Speaker 5: last year.
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Speaker 3: I've been forcing to do a few games over the
Speaker 3: last four or five years with sports say, you guys
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Speaker 4: Yes, will make that point, Well, you never need an invitation.
Speaker 6: First of all, you're a Bear alumni and you have
Speaker 6: you have king status, and there's always hot coffee and therefore, yeah, day, yeah.
Speaker 5: Well I know there's I know there's crabs in there.
Speaker 5: I can get to you.
Speaker 1: Hey, what what I really want to focus on because
Speaker 1: I know you know, when players retire, that's the biggest
Speaker 1: I think now being my agent, have met so many
Speaker 1: of you guys that have come through over the last
Speaker 1: almost three decades. The hardest part is what to do next? Yes,
Speaker 1: you want to, Yeah, take some time figure things out.
Speaker 1: Maybe you planned for it, maybe you didn't. And it
Speaker 1: sounds to me that your investment to get into coaching afterwards,
Speaker 1: h when you saw the results of your labor a
Speaker 1: young man becoming something more than maybe he thought he would,
Speaker 1: and then transitioning out of the NFL coaching maze, which
Speaker 1: it is a maze and it's it's constant change, going
Speaker 1: to Loyal Academy to be a voice, be be something
Speaker 1: for these young kids before they even get to college.
Speaker 2: Has this stirred your soul a little bit to give back?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've always felt that that that that
Speaker 3: need to do leave him when I was playing, and
Speaker 3: then after I got through playing and coaching that a
Speaker 3: lot of people, you know, I come from a single
Speaker 3: current home and to older sisters, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people sacrifice for me to get where I got where
Speaker 3: I got to go to college and to the pros.
Speaker 3: And so it's just it's my obligation to do the
Speaker 3: same thing, and even here doing some mentoring these young
Speaker 3: men and women here at Loyola. But I just love
Speaker 3: doing invite and I always telling them, I keep it
Speaker 3: on my door. I have a thing where I shows,
Speaker 3: you know, the percentage was the percentage of get into
Speaker 3: play in professional sports, playing professional football, how many people
Speaker 3: get drafted, how many actually make teams and those low
Speaker 3: numbers and everything. And then I have another thing to show,
Speaker 3: you know, what you make with a high school degree,
Speaker 3: how much you make with a college degree, and a
Speaker 3: big difference there, and always planning, you know, knowing what
Speaker 3: I know now, obviously the NFL has done a better
Speaker 3: job of helping players prepare for the after life after
Speaker 3: football life, and knowing what I know now, things that
Speaker 3: I would have done differently. I would have probably done
Speaker 3: a much more internships and stuff like that, just to
Speaker 3: get involved in athletic administration that I enjoy doing. Now
Speaker 3: I try to let these players know and these student
Speaker 3: athletes know that I don't. I was fortunate to play
Speaker 3: twelve years, coach ten years, but I've been now, I've
Speaker 3: been out of you know, Tommy, I'm curious. I mean,
Speaker 3: I was done with thirty three, thirty five, done with
Speaker 3: coaching before I was, you know, fifty. I mean I
Speaker 3: just turned fifty six. I mean, so, I don't care
Speaker 3: if you played, and I wish everybody the greatest career
Speaker 3: in the world. Play as long as you can, but
Speaker 3: you're going to live life much more longer than you
Speaker 3: play your professional sports. So be sure to work on
Speaker 3: a plan going forward because you're gonna no matter what
Speaker 3: you're gonna play, you're going to be out of sports
Speaker 3: longer than you will play in it, even if you're
Speaker 3: fortunate to have the great, illustrious career. It's just that's
Speaker 3: just the reality. Richard d told me a long time ago.
Speaker 3: He said, Mark, we all have so many hits in
Speaker 3: our bodies. We only have we have a number. Everybody
Speaker 3: has a number. Tommy has a number, I have a number.
Speaker 3: Everybody has a number. When that number is up, you're done,
Speaker 3: and you don't get them back. You know you don't
Speaker 3: you know, you don't know. If you don't play one
Speaker 3: year doesn't mean you get those numbers. We all have
Speaker 3: a number. When that number is up, you're done. Then
Speaker 3: you can do about it. So always be prepared. Some
Speaker 3: have shorter numbers, something that long enumbers. You just don't
Speaker 3: know when that number is going to be up, But
Speaker 3: just prepare yourself for when that number is up.
Speaker 6: If you play long enough, that number is evident and obvious.
Speaker 6: If you don't play long enough, you kind of leave
Speaker 6: something behind and.
Speaker 4: You wish you had a little bit more.
Speaker 6: And like Mark said, when my number was up, I
Speaker 6: knew it the flight of the football over the top
Speaker 6: of my head on kickoff return, and I said, I
Speaker 6: don't want to do this anymore, and there's no turning back.
Speaker 6: But I do think it's what you do to yourself
Speaker 6: and for yourself and your after life that is really
Speaker 6: going to dictate your fate because you put so much
Speaker 6: time and effort into getting to the point to be
Speaker 6: able to make that decision.
Speaker 4: But there's still much.
Speaker 6: More important decisions to be made when you go in
Speaker 6: the locker room take a uniform on it on the bus,
Speaker 6: and from that moment on, life is different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want fulfillment, right mark, some somewhat of fulfillment.
Speaker 1: It's beyond yes, you want to you want to provide
Speaker 1: for your family. Obviously your family is important to you.
Speaker 1: You want to see your kids do well. But there's
Speaker 1: got to be some personal fulfillment for the man.
Speaker 5: It took.
Speaker 3: It took a year after I finally when I finally
Speaker 3: accepted I wasn't going to play anymore. It took a
Speaker 3: good year for me to finally get it out of
Speaker 3: my system, to say, okay, I need to do something.
Speaker 3: I think my wife came home one day and I
Speaker 3: was sitting at home watching soap oumpers, and she looked
Speaker 3: at it at a haze, and she looked at me
Speaker 3: and almost wanted to slap me. Kid a grip, What
Speaker 3: are you doing? Come on, let's go. It's time, you know,
Speaker 3: to move on with your life and everything. So it's
Speaker 3: it takes when you've done something as long as we
Speaker 3: have for so long, and you know, so regimented and
Speaker 3: so routine for so many years, like anything else, it
Speaker 3: takes time to get that out of your system.
Speaker 1: Well, Mark, we appreciate you taking the time, and we
Speaker 1: appreciate all the work you're doing for the kids up
Speaker 1: north at Loyola and just your lifetime commitment to a
Speaker 1: great game of professional football and beyond.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, guys. I always appreciate you guys on
Speaker 3: chance to talk with you, guys. You guys do a
Speaker 3: great job.
Speaker 2: I enjoy it, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We'll see you up at Hallis or at Soldier Field
Speaker 1: for an upcoming game this season. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: wild one, that's for sure.
Speaker 5: Definitely will be.
Speaker 2: Yes, Mark carry our guest here on Bears, etcetera.
Speaker 4: Thank you buddy, Thank you guys, Thank you Mark.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: I always enjoyed Mark, love his perspective, and boy he
Speaker 1: did a lot of great things, but maybe doing the
Speaker 1: greatest thing now of helping these kids. I know you
Speaker 1: always appreciate high school coaches and administrators in the state
Speaker 1: of Illinois and the impact they make on young men.
Speaker 1: I saw something from Ennis Reichstrau, the cornerback from Missouri
Speaker 1: that was drafted, and he had written a letter in
Speaker 1: fourth grade to his teacher and he in the end
Speaker 1: he said, Hey, you know, can I have your phone number?
Speaker 1: One to keep in touch the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: And he delivered on that promise to that teacher that
Speaker 1: made an impact him as a fourth grader, and he
Speaker 1: framed and put it on a plaque, the letter and
Speaker 1: presented it to the coach. So you just you know, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we run into people every day. You try and help
Speaker 1: as many as you can, and you just never know
Speaker 1: the one that's going to resonate with somebody.
Speaker 2: So Mark's doing some great stuff.
Speaker 6: You know, you know, the adventure or the the kind
Speaker 6: of the path that Mark and I took. I knew
Speaker 6: Mark from USC because I went to Not Dame and
Speaker 6: then Mark got drafted in the first round in nineteen
Speaker 6: ninety when, as I was at the tail end of
Speaker 6: my career and he came in and had a ten
Speaker 6: interception year, rookie of the year, made an impact on
Speaker 6: the football team. At the we're kind of desperate to
Speaker 6: have draft choices be productive, and he did all that, had.
Speaker 4: A great career.
Speaker 6: So I think Mark is an example of hard work,
Speaker 6: dedication and what it can lead to. So, yeah, coaching
Speaker 6: in the NFL, but maybe that wasn't his calling. And
Speaker 6: you talk about having that sign on his door, and
Speaker 6: letting these high school kids read it. Maybe that's the
Speaker 6: most important message that he can, you know, put out there,
Speaker 6: because that's for all the kids to read. It's not
Speaker 6: only for the athletes. Everybody that needs to read that
Speaker 6: and understand the importance of what they're trying to accomplish
Speaker 6: and what and how Mark's trying to help you.
Speaker 1: Okay, rookie mintiicamp, what do you need to see? What
Speaker 1: do you want to see? What do you hope to see?
Speaker 4: You know, it's the obvious.
Speaker 6: The elephant in the room is you got to see
Speaker 6: the Caleb Williams, his athleticism, his foundation, his throwing accuracy,
Speaker 6: the way Mark said he leads people out of the huddle,
Speaker 6: how he gets his offensive players set up, and then
Speaker 6: Roma Dunza, you want to see what type of speed,
Speaker 6: what type of maneuverability, what type of route.
Speaker 4: Running he puts on display.
Speaker 6: And then I want to see what Shane Waldron offers
Speaker 6: to the all the offensive players that are out there,
Speaker 6: guys that are scratched the surface of opportunity. The way
Speaker 6: Shane Waldron kind of incorporates the newly brought aboard Caleb
Speaker 6: Williams into this offense and get him to understand the
Speaker 6: terminology as well as he can to get ready to
Speaker 6: go into OTA's And then on the defensive side of
Speaker 6: the ball, you want to see is there a player
Speaker 6: out there may be an Austin Booker that's going to
Speaker 6: be able to take the next step to be incorporated
Speaker 6: in the defensive personnel as quickly as possible. Because when
Speaker 6: you talk about offense, you talk about five offensive linemen,
Speaker 6: you want to play the whole game. You talk about
Speaker 6: a quarterback, you want to play the whole game. The receivers,
Speaker 6: the running backs, tight ends, they they're kind of interchangeable.
Speaker 6: And the defensive side of the ball, it's a rotating uh,
Speaker 6: it's it's a rotating segment of the football team. Outside
Speaker 6: the two cornerbacks and the two safeties.
Speaker 4: You bring in a nickelback with the linebacker. That's interchangeable.
Speaker 6: So you want to see the development of young personnel
Speaker 6: that Ryan Poles and Ian Cunningham and the staff have
Speaker 6: brought a board to say, Okay, I think my initial
Speaker 6: reaction to a rookie mini camp does this guy stand
Speaker 6: a chance?
Speaker 4: Is he coachable?
Speaker 6: Or maybe should we set our sites on a different
Speaker 6: position group or a different person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking Booker to the obvious, as you say,
Speaker 1: is Caleb Romadunze want to see them hit the ground running,
Speaker 1: but Austin Booker could because what will he be able
Speaker 1: to offer you in year one as a fifth round pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is young and he is raw, but he is talented,
Speaker 1: So that would be a huge boost.
Speaker 4: Immediately out of the gate.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure they're going to evaluate that even in
Speaker 1: a mini camp situation where there's no pads and no
Speaker 1: major contact or anything, just to see what the Bears
Speaker 1: defensive coaches can do with him already, what his technique is,
Speaker 1: can it be sharpened immediately and maybe you have less
Speaker 1: of a concern of going to get another veteran pass
Speaker 1: rusher out there.
Speaker 4: Here. I want to hear Eric Washington. I want to
Speaker 4: hear Shane Waldron.
Speaker 6: I want to hear their coaching tactics when they're out
Speaker 6: there trying to encourage some of these young guys initially
Speaker 6: some from the first practice. I want to see the
Speaker 6: athleticism of Amagaji. Is he does he have the athleticism
Speaker 6: in this length that we talk about to play offensive
Speaker 6: tackle or is he like the guy that was drafted
Speaker 6: from Northwestern last year that I ended up playing offensive
Speaker 6: guard at Tennessee.
Speaker 4: Skronsky.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Peter, Okay, that is that the position he's bet
Speaker 6: fit for.
Speaker 4: So I think when you bring in an offensive.
Speaker 6: Lineman, you really got to look at him and you
Speaker 6: gotta look at his balance, You got to look at
Speaker 6: his footwork, you got to look at.
Speaker 4: His hand placement.
Speaker 6: You got to make sure that he's understanding in the
Speaker 6: information as well as a quarterback, and so there's a
Speaker 6: lot of little details you got to look at as well.
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Speaker 2: Big week ahead for the Bears.
Speaker 1: Schedule release may or may not be this week, could
Speaker 1: be next week.
Speaker 2: You know, it depends on what you hear.
Speaker 1: But I know, I know, I we all want it
Speaker 1: as for sure, we know who we're playing. We just
Speaker 1: want to know when I think the everybody's alluded to
Speaker 1: the fact that with Caleb here and the Bears being
Speaker 1: a better team on paper at the moment, we'll see
Speaker 1: a lot more primetime games and late starts, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna get ready for that for twenty twenty four and
Speaker 1: we welcome that certainly. And then we got Bears Care
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Speaker 1: That's always a good time and a good source of
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Speaker 2: For a good cause.
Speaker 1: So all that ahead as we inch towards the season,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us. Special thanks to former
Speaker 1: Bears safety Mark Carrier for Tom There, I'm Jeff Jonihak.
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