WEBVTT - Bears rookie minicamp preview | Bears, etc. Podcast 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:06.000 Cut over that DJ Moore encode touchdown touchdown pairs. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.000 I am Jeff Jonihack wlitz is. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:12.960 On Dottie go hus Car What was like playing for 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:14.920 coache gooddowh I don't. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:16.200 Want to answer any questions like that. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:17.680 Pressure coming is a big trouble. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.840 Donnie gos Motes sweat. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:28.360 Many Bears, et Cetera brought to you by Miller Lighte 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.440 with the voices of the Bears, Jeff Joniac and Tom Thayer. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:34.720 More bricks being laid on the road of the twenty 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.199 twenty fourth season, the one hundred and fifth in Chicago 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.479 Bears history. With the start of Rookie Minicamp later this week, 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.560 and we welcome into episode sixty seven of the Bears 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:44.479 et Cetera Podcast. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.200 Jeff Joniac here with Super Bowl winning Bears. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.600 Guard Tom Thayer, a broadcast partner and our special guest 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.400 this week, who had a memorable rookie season for the 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.480 Bears back in nineteen ninety, the sixth overall pick from USC, 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.280 the NFL defensive rookie of the Year, a three time 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:04.840 Pro Bowler, Mark Carrier aka the Hammer. The Hammer. You know, 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.399 we're old school football here, so we love the big 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.280 hits and you delivered plenty and you know, tell us 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.440 the story of the Hammer though, where that came from. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.440 Well, it's funny because you know this generation and then 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.160 my kids who are My son is twenty eight, my 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.320 daughter's twenty six, they have no clue about this. But 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.120 it's funny. You know, people my football life people know 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.240 me as Hammer. Everybody else outside of that know me 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.360 as as Mark. And my college life everybody know me 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:36.280 as aircraft carrier. So it's funny how we all have 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:41.000 a different world. But how Hammer came about, you know, 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.559 at the time, people have to understand m. C. Hammer 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.760 was really big at the time in early ninees. He 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.760 was big, you know, was blown up in the nineties. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.640 But how I got the name is in practice and 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.040 then sometimes in games, mostly in games, I would hit 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.640 Chico Ron Rivere a couple of times the signatory. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:01.640 I just nigged him in. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.760 The back friendly fire, friendly. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:07.440 Fire, and uh. And I remember Chico one time telling 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.639 me Mark, I you hit me one more time, I'm 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.880 gonna kick your ass on the field. So and so 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.520 so the person who actually really named me gave me 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.160 that name was U was Ron Rivera Chico. He named 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.400 me hammer because I was hammering those guys in the 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.160 back of times it was empty hammer was big at 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:23.519 that time. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.080 So that's when I ran with that theory. 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.120 You know, Mark, I was, you know, just kind of 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.200 reminiscent about your career and thinking back about when you 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.360 came aboard, how you're drafted from USC. But then I 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.480 also saw a video of you and the first highlight 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:42.480 they showed of you was launching into a tackle, and 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.960 so it made me think immediately, Okay, the funds that 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.040 you would have had to supply the league for some 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.440 of the hits that you had oh and fifty. Yeah, 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.840 but you know what, what, because you're so still involved 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.360 in the sport and the way that the game of 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.360 the safety have to morph into a more legalized hitting, 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.359 do you think they're kind of making the tackling target 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.359 too difficult for the safety position? 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.760 Well, yeah, well for anyone really, it's just so hard 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:20.119 Tommy and Jeff. Is that because they and I get 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.440 it why they're doing it. We all understand safety. Safety 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:23.840 is always going to be a big part of it, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.440 not just for the not just for the person you're hitting, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.560 but also for the players hitting. But what happens is 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.920 you don't take an account what the other player, the 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.440 one you're going to tackle, what he might do, meaning 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:40.200 how he might react as far as dunkling not ducking 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:44.600 going hot when those split second situations happened, I might 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.560 have a target on you right around your belly button, 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.400 but if you react and turn a certain way, I 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.400 might nail you in the side of the head depending 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:53.360 on how you react. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.240 So you know, Mark and it kind of will I'll 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.440 eventually lead into Caleb Williams. 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.920 However, would you think of the school that you came from. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.400 You think of some of the guys that played the 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.880 position before you, guys like Ronnie Lott and stuff. When 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.880 you play a position at USC that has Hall of 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.480 Famers and some of the best that ever played the 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.120 position like that, do you have to carry that on 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.360 to your USC career and then carry that out of 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:24.520 your NFL career. Because I'm so familiar with the rivalry 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.360 between Notre Dame and USC, and I know a lot 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.440 of the great names that have come out of USC, 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:33.039 But when you think about the position success that's come 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.280 out of at USC, the safety position is. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:36.799 One of them. 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:41.080 Yeah, I mean we talked about the SC greats. Tim McDonald, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.120 Ronnie Dennis Smith. Both those guys should be in a 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.279 Hall of Fame, and I think obviously Troy Paul malve 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.920 isn't a Hall of Fame. Dennis Thurman another one who 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.840 set the standards. My big thing initially when I went 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.599 to USC, Tom and Jeff was I just wanted to 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.480 be I wanted those guys to come and when they 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.440 saw me, I felt good about my play and that 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.120 I was owning up holding up my of the legacy 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.440 and the defensive backs. That's all I wanted. I just 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.480 want to be included in their name. You know, the 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.800 best is always subjective. In my mind, Ronnie Lott's one 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.200 of the best football players ever played in college or pro. 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.039 But I just wanted to make sure when I played 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.120 and I represented the USC that those guys felt really 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.560 good about my play and how I did. Now the 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.120 flipside of that, as you take that to the NFL, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.839 as we came after ninety three and the CBA start 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.919 changing and they start putting more emphasis on safetyes the 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.960 rules of safety in the game, and you're going out 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.600 flying around hidding people, especially leading with your helmet. That 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.719 became a final offense. And you mentioned earlier it talked 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:54.680 about target and I'm all four and I coached an 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.520 NFL for ten years, so I had to teach guys 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.760 how to hit proper ways of hitting the target. And 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.640 you you know, you always have to lower your target. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.000 But if you're going again to part that, the NFL 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.560 doesn't take it, because I don't think taken consideration. Is 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.440 is that I'm going at you, Tom, and I'm aiming 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.559 at your belt buckle, your belly button, and I'm going 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.039 and all of a sudden you see me and you 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.880 embrace a turn or something and drop your body, drop 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:23.760 your head or something, and all of a sudden we 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.880 hit helmets. I can't control that. That that that was 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:32.280 an instinctive of reaction. That wasn't my target. There's one 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.040 thing about believe I mean, and they've gotten better and 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.960 you and I've had it where I've left my feet, 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.800 go airborne and trying to just knock the guy out. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.680 But the difference of now where you're trying to target 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.440 and bring your target down low. You do that, but 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.840 sometimes you can't control with the other player and how 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.680 it reacts and then you're not And when that happens, 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.920 I think when they study it back in New York. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.159 They have to be a little bit more cautious of Okay, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.600 how did this happen? Did he leave his bed? 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:01.920 He was he going. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.560 Projecting out to don't take a guy, try to hit 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.919 a guy in his face? Or was he least trying 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.880 to aim the right way? And the reaction of the 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:10.840 player maybe cast some of that. 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.600 Mark carry our guest here on the Bears et Cetera podcast. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.960 This episode of Bears et Cetera, it brought to you 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.480 by Miller Lite Tastes like Miller Time, Celebrate Responsibly, Miller 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:23.000 Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Ninety six calories and three point 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:27.000 two carbs per twelve ounces. The Bears picking you at 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.400 number six, and at that time it was okay to 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:30.560 pick safeties in the top ten. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.600 Nobody was wigging out, right, nobody. 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.760 Was wigging out. But and so you were one of them. 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.240 H what's that I made? 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.080 The trends started going downward after that. 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.360 Yeah, it sure did. Caden Bodok out of us. He 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.920 picked in the third round this year by the Houston Texans. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.280 When you got to the Bears, they then decided, okay, 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.360 we're going to part company with a four time pro bowler, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.480 Dave do it, the late Dave Doors, and so he 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.520 went on to the Giants to make room essentially for 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.440 you and put Sean Gale down to strong sae. So, 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:06.320 as a rookie, what did that do for your pressure? 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.080 Because you're on a veteran team, they're looking at you 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.080 to be the last line of defense with a great 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.280 pass rush, and here you take the ball away ten times. 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.480 Well, first, let's you know, I have to pay respect 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:21.680 to to double d Dave Dorrison because even when I 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.920 came in, one of the first people to really reach 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.880 out and help me get acclimated to the NFL was 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.840 was Dave Dorson. I mean Dave, and he knew the business, 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.200 knew what was going on, but that didn't stop him 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.040 from really helping me try to get acclimated, help me 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.960 learn the defense, learn the NFL ways. I owe him, 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:42.920 you know a lot, and he you know, he kind 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.920 of knew what was going on, but I didn't stop 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:51.280 him from really helping me get get get assimilated to 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.800 NFL lifestyle. Go figure a nore name guy helping the 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:58.280 guy who I thought. But if my old Dave, you 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.240 know a lot for that, I have nothing but positive, uh, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.640 respect and admiration for Dave, but what he did for 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.840 me for my career. But coming into the Bears and 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.200 Tom was part of that team, it was still a 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.040 lot of those eighty five team that still hovers even 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:20.440 today in Chicago, hovers big on the loom, loom large 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.640 in the city and rightfully so. It was it before 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.880 their time. The characters that they had and how they 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.240 went about doing you know what they did and knew 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.280 what you were going to do. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.280 Uh. And to come in. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:37.520 There and and and replace a positive a popular player 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.760 that was that was tough. They didn't and they they 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.920 they got after. They got after me pretty good at times, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.080 and not because they didn't like me. Is that what 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.760 I've learned at the time, And I tell this to 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.600 players when I get a chance to mentor him. They 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.040 weren't harsh on me, especially in training camp early, because 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:58.800 they didn't like me. They just didn't know me and 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:00.840 they didn't trust me. Yet they had to. I had 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:04.199 to established a trust with those guys, with the veteran guys, 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:08.800 with the Hampton It's a singletary Richard Dentz, Big Michaels, 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.520 those Ronald, those guys, Sean Giellismith. Those guys didn't know 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.120 they could trust me yet. They didn't know. I mean, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.480 in case point one time. Tommy probably won't remember this. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.760 It's late October or something, early late October. We're going 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.360 out for a walk through. And I got all I 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.520 got my footage, sweatshirt, I got all sweatshirts, float pants, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.920 I got everything on. You know, it's only what maybe 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.959 sixty sixty high degrees or something for a California guy, 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.600 but like thirty five and I'm going out to the 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.040 field with all that gear on, just for a walk through. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.240 And these guys are looking at me, waiting as me 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.240 and Tom knows that. You know, Jeff, that old facility was. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.360 You walk up a hill a ramp to the field 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.400 and ever sitting there looking at me, and they're like, 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:49.800 what the hell are you doing? 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.600 I said, what do you mean? I'm going for the walkthrough? 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:53.600 What the hell you got all that? Take that? 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.800 Go back in that uh and go take that crap off. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.760 You're not walking out here with that on. I don't 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.760 like to screw you guys. I'm going out here because 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.839 I need to. I want to go to walk through. 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.960 You can't tell me what to wear. Hey, and finally hey, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:07.720 either you take it off, We're going to take it off. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.440 I know, I got smart. I went to and I 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.000 was I was somewhat mad, went through practice, but Mike 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:17.400 Singletary came over to me afterwards. Mike afterwards and put 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:18.920 his arm you know, and say, young man, as he 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.760 called me, young man, do you understand what they were doing? 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:23.559 I said, Mike, they were trying to test me. They're 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:24.960 trying to pump me. They try to see the Bible, 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:26.920 you know, just try to see. They just want to 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.040 pump me. Said no, it wasn't nothing had to do 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.120 with had nothing to do with that. They were worried 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:36.200 that they see you coming out in sixty degree whether dressed, 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.400 trying to stay warm. They're worried that when we go 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:44.560 to Green Bay in December and it's thirty below, you're 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.800 not gonna be Are you gonna be worried about staying 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.560 warm or be worried about doing your job. They want 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.840 to know you can that they can trust you. Because 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.679 I was called me and Mike gave the signals. They 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.880 want to be able to trust you, to know that 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.200 in certain situations that you're gonna be they can trust you. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:00.960 To do your job. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.520 If you can't do that, they don't want to play 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.320 with So that was kind of a lack of lesson 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:09.160 for me for football establishing trust. They wanted to know 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.760 they can trust me when it counted on the road, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.240 in tough situations. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.840 You know, Mark, when mini camp starts, it's I don't 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.640 know if you guys even had a rookie mini camp, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:24.839 did you guys? Yeah, So what advice would you give 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.000 this group? This selection of five and a lot of 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.280 undrafted free agents and a lot of try out guys. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:30.600 They're going to try to make the roster. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.480 This is their first introduction to the playbook and how 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.880 things will go when the veterans get going in OTAs 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.800 and on the mini camp. Just the acclamation period. Some 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.120 coaches have decided to say, hey, you're just gonna have 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.200 here for one day. Here's the acclamation go back. We're 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.360 going to go OTAs with the vets. Do you think 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:53.720 there's benefits for guys like Caleb Williams, Roma Dunze, Karan 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.000 Amidaji all these guys that are coming in this week. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.160 Well for the opposite for the quarterback, I mean, this 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.600 is your guy. You need to get him as with 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.080 your veteran guys as soon as possible, because he's you've 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.920 already established this is our guy going forward. They've done 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:11.040 a great job Ryan Bulls and the group in Cunning Heaven, 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.360 who I know, well, I've done a great job of 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:18.160 assimilating a really good positive group around of this young quarterback. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.680 So you've got to get him going with those guys 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.559 as soon as possible. So you've got to get him going. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.719 They didn't go through his lumps and bumps him justin. 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.199 And the biggest thing, and I'm sure I'm curious that 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.680 Tom felt the same thing, is the speed of the game. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:35.959 Understanding the speed of the game. It's one thing you're 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.199 hit gonna be spinning no matter what because you're getting 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:43.760 to new targeting, new language. But the speed of the 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:48.440 game is so much more mentally faster than just physically 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.480 faster that you have to get that. You've got it 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:54.200 quicker you get I remember leaving mini camp after our 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.480 mini camp, going home, you know, upset, telling my mom, 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:01.600 I don't like to do this. Everybody, Tom, Tom Waddles 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.960 of the worlds were moving faster than me. Go figure 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.720 that at that time, because you were trying to process things. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.880 You know, I'm trying to process things, but it's process 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.720 so much faster. The physical will come. It's that processing 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.839 the mental part of the game so much quicker and 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:22.040 adjustments on the fly is you you You can't duplicate that. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.560 You just got to get thrown into the fire and 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.080 then work to figure it out and just take take 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:28.760 a step at a time. Take a step at a time. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.200 Learn from the aventuroom. Guys ask questions because that's the 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:33.880 best you're going to do. Because they know you're going 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.240 to be our guy. You need to know they can 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.360 be that they can count on you. That you want 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.400 to get You wanted to learn, you want to get better. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.800 You know, Mark, the first time I rented the line 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.920 of scrimmage in nine on seven up in Plattel and 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.000 the singletary and the whole crew were standing in front 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.800 of me, McMichael hamp Richard, and they called the offensive 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:59.120 play and I the speed at which I saw those 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.280 guys move, I kind of thought to myself, I don't 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.960 know if I'm capable of this. But then a thousand 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.200 reps later, then you start figuring out, okay, I can 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:10.840 do this. 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.560 This is what I got to do. This is where 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:13.600 I got to be and all that. 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:17.520 So just from play one to play one hundred to 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:21.280 play one thousand, your whole mindset changes, and I think 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.960 that really affects the value of where you're giving your 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.680 self confidence and where you can go. But there's one 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.240 thing I wanted to ask you about Caleb, because you 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.240 talked about all the great safeties that have been at 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.000 USC and kind of the pressure of the position, the 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:43.400 pageantry of USC football, And I've been there in some 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.320 big games in the coliseum and you see the movie 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.680 stars standing on the sidelines, you see the cheerleaders, you 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:54.080 just see the effects of USC football. You think in 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:57.040 the modern day football, something like that and the success 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:01.480 that Caleb has have has had, it'll help him acclimate 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:07.320 to the outside of the responsibilities of the on field 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.400 stuff because of what you've already been exposed to in 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:15.960 the star studded part of USC football. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.840 Yeah, I think from a social standpoint, this kid is 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.680 because he's been in that spotlight comedy since he was 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.920 in you know, high school, going to Gonzaga outside of 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.040 DC and going to Oklahoma. I mean he played in 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:34.320 the top pick, a five star pick, a recruit played 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.920 at Oklahoma, which has a great tradition. Then he goes 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.000 to USC which is that and only does have a tradition. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.160 He has a social tradition that you talked about, and 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.960 then come to Chicago. I don't think that part is 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.480 going to that's going to be such a bomberser. He 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.400 I mean, he just when you see him doing different things, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.400 like you saw him at the Cups game the other day, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:57.840 and he's okay in that scenario, he's so far knock 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.120 on wood. He's able to deal with that. Now. What 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.240 he's going to have to see, as we all playing 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.400 for the Bears, is when there's when you get in 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.080 and everybody loves you, and then you go through. You 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:14.000 don't have success right away and love. The beauty of 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.560 our fans and the Bears fans is that they're passionate 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.000 about the team. They're going to be there good, bad, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.640 or whatever, and they're going to express theirselves whether you're 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.000 doing good or whether you're doing bad. Just be able 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.560 to you know, understand you're going to get that, but 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.879 block that out, not take it so personal, and just 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:32.960 stay focused on the job a head of being trying 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.600 to be successful within your teammate. I think from the 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.879 social standboard, I think he'll be fined. It's just him 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:45.040 being playing for an NFL team and dealing with the 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:49.240 social you know, that society that comes with it playing 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.280 for the Bears and being a quarterback. Just be able 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.840 to handle that. I think once he's able to deal 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.480 with that and stay focused on being you know, just hey, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:02.000 worry about winning, worry about your teammates. That other part 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.399 will take care of yourself. That I think you'll be okay. 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.359 Mark, carry our guest here on Bears et cetera podcast 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.080 or brought you by PNC Official Bank of the Bears 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.840 and game day snacking calls for good foods. Chunky guacamaldi 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.560 made with has avocados, tomatoes, onion, cidantro and a squeeze 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.920 of lime juice. It's the perfect snack to watch Why 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.240 the Bears win. Score some today at your local grocery store. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.639 Game Day is guak Day. He's number seventy two on 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.800 the Bears one hundred list is put together by Don 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:31.800 Pearson and Dan Pompei. Twelve spots ahead of Tom Fair. 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.760 But wait a minute, one spot behind butt Head? How old? 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:37.240 How did you get behind it? Kicker? 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:41.600 I didn't even notice that one. Tom, tell him, tell 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.480 them what you always say when you're going. It's brought 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.840 up the year on the on the Bears one hundred 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.000 list ahead of. 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.760 Jay Cutler, one ahead of Jay Cutler. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.960 But I'm one behind Kevin. But head there's a difference. 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.719 Yeah, there is definitely definitely a difference. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:03.440 I mean that means and I'm thirteen, right, we didn't 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:04.160 look at it that way. 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:05.960 I feel better already. 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:10.280 Now, Oh my gosh, how much did you watch Caleb? 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.199 How much did you watch pac twelve football? Did you 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.960 watch any roma doonsay? And as a safety? CN that 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.240 guy big and strong and a fifty to fifty ball 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.359 catcher with speed, joining Keenan Allen and DJ Moore and 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.720 Cole Commett and Gerald Everett and DeAndre Swift and Khalil Herbert. 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.919 I mean, everybody's all the analysts are saying, this is 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.280 the most ideal situation for a rookie quarterback and for 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.360 that matter, a rookie receiver to make an instant impact. 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.600 You couldn't get any better scenario, correct. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.000 I mean, they've done a great job of building a team. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:45.680 I mean the new NFL these days is you want 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.560 to be successful early. You have to take a chance 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.240 on a young quarterback, but you better have the pieces 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.840 around him while he's on his rookie deal, so you 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.199 can go out and pay and get the pieces needed to. 0:19:59.480 --> 0:19:59.959 Be success. 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.040 I kind of think about coverage and the way the 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.600 defensive coordinators inside the division are thinking. So the Bears 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:08.639 break the huddle and they got Cole comment at the 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.879 line of scrimmage and they got rom Keenan and DJ 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:18.160 out as a safety. Are you covering? Are you covering 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.399 Cole or are you playing deep? 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:21.080 Well? 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.520 A lot has to depend on you know what, what 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.240