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Speaker 1: October twenty eighth. Ye o, our Lord, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: A little bit delayed tonight, And look at our little

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Speaker 1: So a few audio issues, as is usually the case

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Speaker 1: But we are jam packed as always. We are high

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Speaker 1: at top downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Hey, what if every opinion

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter? Let me just start to show with that tonight.

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Speaker 1: What if every opinion doesn't matter? And second part to that,

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Speaker 1: what if there really are a lot of moving parts

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Speaker 1: We will discuss in due time tonight. We've got several

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Speaker 1: more Week nine picks, several games that we didn't get

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Speaker 1: to the other night we will get to tonight. Also,

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Speaker 1: It's just sometimes you can only say what you can say,

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Speaker 1: so I want to talk about that. Also, just some

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Speaker 1: not that we didn't tell you it was coming. We

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Speaker 1: until you get down there and then you realize I

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Speaker 1: got sharp teeth and they mean ill will towards you

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Speaker 1: at Late Kick Josh obviously if you were on there

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Speaker 1: the same you caught two of our Rama Noodle Express

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Speaker 1: Late Kick Josh. Also, speaking of those Instagram and Twitter channels,

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Speaker 1: the pregame scene at Michigan State Saturday is gonna be wild.

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Speaker 1: I've been talking, as I said, to Michigan State throughout

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Speaker 1: But we're going to be up there as usual. The

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Speaker 1: I just wonder, you know, I know this Penn State

430
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: defense or defense is very good. I just wonder how

431
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 1: much pressure will be on CJ. Stroud. Remember when Ohio

432
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: State played Northwestern with it last year? I think maybe

433
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 1: and it was a big ten championship game, and Northwestern

434
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 1: led them like for a lot of the game. But

435
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Speaker 1: yet you always had the feel there's not enough pressure

436
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: on Ohio State. They know Northwestern can't pull away, and

437
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 1: eventually they did. Eventually they bid them, and then they

438
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 1: pulled past them, and that was that. Because Northwestern was

439
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 1: so limited, that probably is what you end up seeing Saturday.

440
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 1: Even if Ohio State has trouble offensively, there won't be

441
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: probably enough pressure put on Ohio State. How could you ever,

442
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: knowing what we know about both teams, how could you

443
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 1: ever envision Penn State jumping out to a seventeen to

444
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 1: three lead in this game. The answer is special teams

445
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: points and defensive points. Outside of that, I don't see it.

446
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 1: So the way I went here is Ohio State win.

447
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 1: If it's an eight teen and a half, the model

448
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 1: slightly leans Penn State plus the points. I gotta tell

449
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 1: you what I hope happens here, regardless of the outcome.

450
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: I just hope we don't see a blowout because it

451
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: would be an ugly week for everyone if we saw

452
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Speaker 1: a blowout this week. So I'm going to take Ohio

453
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: State to win, lean Penn State in the points don't

454
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Speaker 1: really like either side in that Texas at Baylor sneaky game. Here,

455
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: it's a noon Eastern time kickoff. Baylor favored by three.

456
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Speaker 1: Oh boy. Okay, so Texas is out of the by

457
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Speaker 1: and their biggest problem since the Oklahoma game has been

458
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: the ability to get good starts but not finished game.

459
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Speaker 1: So you would figure as much tread as could possibly

460
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: be on the Longhorn tires will be on those tires

461
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Speaker 1: this week. Now, Having said that, is it enough because

462
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Speaker 1: as you can see, Baylor still favored here. Here's the

463
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Speaker 1: problem as I see it for Texas is, even if

464
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Speaker 1: you do get a complete game, you're going up against

465
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Speaker 1: the best rushing offense in the Big Twelve. That would

466
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Speaker 1: be the Baylor Bears two thirty eight per game, little

467
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: over six year yards per carry. And what did we

468
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: see do Texas in? In fact, in these games they've

469
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Speaker 1: lost the Oklahoma game, you just pick one. What did

470
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Speaker 1: them end? It's giving up huge, huge amounts of rush

471
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Speaker 1: yardage on the ground, which is normally where rush yardage happens,

472
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Speaker 1: by the way, and so I don't necessarily know that

473
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Speaker 1: it looks different here. Here's what I think happens. What

474
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Speaker 1: I think happens is Texas has enough big playability, and

475
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Speaker 1: whatever they can empty out of the bag, they empty

476
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Speaker 1: it this week. And so I think we're going to

477
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Speaker 1: look at a game where Texas finds a way to win.

478
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Speaker 1: But then when we pull up the box score, Baylor

479
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: will have dominated time with possession. They will have gotten

480
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Speaker 1: their yards on the ground, maybe even out gaining Texas.

481
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Speaker 1: There's just some way Texas found a way to make

482
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Speaker 1: one more play. They have no margin of prayer. Texas

483
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: has got to win every game if they want to

484
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Speaker 1: shot at Big twelve championship. And so I'm gonna take Texas.

485
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't have a good feel on that one either.

486
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: Normally I saved the games. I don't have a good

487
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Speaker 1: feel on until Thursday. How about Miami at Pitt This

488
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: one is a weather special weather meaning I don't like

489
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 1: Miami going this far north, this late in the season.

490
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Speaker 1: And so immediately when I see Miami at pit, I

491
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: mean this was preseason. When you looked at the schedule,

492
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Speaker 1: you said, ooh, last week in October they're going where

493
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: Just mental note, make sure you check the weather. Well.

494
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: We have rain and temperatures around fifty degrees till not

495
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: exactly South Florida. But the model and I disagree on

496
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Speaker 1: this game, or do we? Because I kind of flip

497
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: flopped as I was walking into the studio. So here's

498
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Speaker 1: where my head's at here. Yes, you do have pit

499
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: in what you consider a letdown spot. Yes, it is

500
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: that early, sleepy noontime eleventh Central kickoff. But the dynamic

501
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't like. Even if Miami pulls this off and

502
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: they are by the way at nine point dog, even

503
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Speaker 1: if the Kanes pull it off, what it's gonna have

504
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: to include is Tyler Van Dyke, who is the quarterback

505
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: there now, Ever since King was out, Tyler Van D's

506
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: gonna to throw the ball a lot. Now. I don't

507
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: think Miami's running the ball up and down the field,

508
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: don't Pitt. Pitt is very good, good enough at least

509
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Speaker 1: at generating pressure. And my problem in trying to see

510
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: an upset here, And this is where I disagree with

511
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: the model. The model likes Miami, I mean it likes

512
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: them to possibly pull the upset. I don't because I

513
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: think that on their way to pulling the upset, they're

514
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: gonna have to throw the ball too much, and in

515
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: those kinds of conditions, I like Pitt to win a

516
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: turnover battle. It's hard to predict that, but I just

517
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: think if you're playing percentages, it's a lot more likely

518
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: that you see Pitt for some mistakes than it is

519
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: for this offense and this team in desperation mode, and

520
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: this staff under immense pressure to go on the road

521
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: and just perform at high precision levels that we haven't

522
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Speaker 1: seen them perform at all year, to be frank. And

523
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Speaker 1: so I went Pitt, and then I thought to myself,

524
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: if that starts to happen, you could quickly kick a

525
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Speaker 1: snowball down the hill. So I went all the way

526
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Speaker 1: past the model. The model's sitting there saying, Hey, possible

527
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Speaker 1: Miami upset here, and I said, no, Model, I shut

528
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Speaker 1: the computer. I said, I think Pitt's gonna win, and

529
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: I think Pitt's gonna cover. And if that happens, I

530
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: can almost assure you we're gonna be talking about Manny

531
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: Diaz in some shape for or fashion on Tuesday or

532
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: Thursday of next week. FSU is at Clemson. If I

533
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: were to have told you in the preseason, if Florida

534
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: State is going to be less than a ten point

535
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: dog in Tiger Stadium, you would have thought what happened

536
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: to DJ When did he get hurt? What week did

537
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: he get hurt? He hasn't starting quarterbacks there for Clemson.

538
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: This is just the way that the season has unfolded.

539
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: So again, this is a three thirty kick, Clemson minus

540
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: nine and a half. FSU has been running the ball

541
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Speaker 1: exceptionally well. I mean, they were playing some of their

542
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: best ball as of late. Clemson has been what Clemson

543
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: has been all year. I really don't think there have

544
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: been whole lot of ups and downs. It's just been

545
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: it's been consistent, just been consistently poor. But I look

546
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: and I think about what has to happen, not for

547
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: FSU to cover, but if they were to pull the

548
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: upset kind of the same situation with Miami, what would

549
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: have to happen. Well, FSU's got to run the ball ball,

550
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: and they got to run the ball very effectively. I

551
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna happen against Clemson. I think they'll

552
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: run it okay, I don't think they'll run it at

553
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Speaker 1: a high level, which means they're gonna have to do

554
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: some stuff that they're probably not totally comfortable doing. And

555
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: you get into a situation kind of like with Pitt Miami,

556
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: where you're just a lot more prone to making mistakes. Here,

557
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: now here's the good news. Clemson should not be able

558
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: to pull away in this game, So you should not

559
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: come out of the tunnel already in desperation mode in

560
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: the first quarter and Mike Morvel's eaving it up left

561
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: and right. That shouldn't be the way that this unfolds.

562
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: But my fear is what happens if Florida State can't

563
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Speaker 1: run at all. Well, you know what if instead of

564
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: six point two yards per carry, it's two point six

565
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: yards per carry, and then all of a sudden you're

566
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Speaker 1: having to throw it and they know you're gonna throw it.

567
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a recipe where Clemson wins. The game

568
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Speaker 1: model thinks the number is right. I I picked Clemson

569
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Speaker 1: by ten, so I mean by the slimmest of margins.

570
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: I think they'll win and maybe backdoor cover this thing.

571
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Speaker 1: But I think there will be a majority of this

572
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Speaker 1: game where Florida State is close enough to where one

573
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: of those Bob plays as bounce a ball place could

574
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: change the outcome. And I think that you'll probably be

575
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: texting your buddies, especially if you're an acc fan several

576
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: times saying hey, click click click, click click. FSU's hanging

577
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: in there. They're still in there. I don't think Clems

578
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: is going to pull away, but I do think at

579
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: the very end they may stretch it enough to cover.

580
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: So I'll take clumbson to win clubs to cover. Last

581
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: game I wanted to touch on here, North Carolina's at

582
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I could have sworn to you in the

583
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: preseason this is where we would have been this weekend

584
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: for the Late Kick Renaissance Tour, because look at what

585
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: else we have. It was either going to be Penn

586
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: State at Ohio State, it was going to be Georgia Florida,

587
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: or it was going to be North Carolina at Notre Dame.

588
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: And it ends up being none of them. We're headed

589
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: to Michigan State. That's why you plan your future in pencil, kids,

590
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: planning your seasons and your lives in pencil. This is

591
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: the first game for Notre Dame after losing Kyle Hamilton,

592
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: talented safety there, they lost him for the year. I

593
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: don't know that North Carolina is necessarily the best team

594
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Speaker 1: to be drawing once you've lost one of your high

595
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: caliber safeties, which is why Notre Dame knows this is

596
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: no mystery. They need to control the game same way

597
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: they did last time they played North Carolina. Control the game.

598
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: That means you can't be letting someone jump out two

599
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: scores on you early. So there's a lot of incentive

600
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: to obviously come out have things under control, you know,

601
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: don't let someone pop you on special teams early. This

602
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: is not a game to settle into for Notre Dame.

603
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: This is a very very well balanced team now, especially

604
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: with Jack Cohen playing the way he is, It's a

605
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: very well balanced team. I think the same theme exists

606
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: here as in the last two games. What North Carolina

607
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: will have to do because I don't think they'll have

608
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: a ton of success running the ball. It's the same thing.

609
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to throw it now. They got the

610
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: cat to do it if he's on, if he's not on,

611
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: We've already seen what's happened multiple times this year. Model

612
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: likes Notre Dame a lot here. I do too. I

613
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a different Irish team since

614
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: they came out of their bye week, didn't play in

615
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: their best ball. I think they are kind of pulling

616
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: one of those Clemsons. They're gonna peak at the right time.

617
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: They're not going to peak at as high level as

618
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen Clemson. Let's say, but I like Notre Dame

619
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: to win. I like Notre Dame to cover there. It's

620
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: a good set of games now, And that's all throughout

621
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: the day. It wasn't all in one chunk of like

622
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: noon or all in three thirty. A lot of games

623
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: there to pay attention to. Okay, I'm going to end

624
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: the show with something that I can't even stress to

625
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: you enough. Maybe hundreds of you have asked about several dozen,

626
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: if not hundreds of you have asked about this, So

627
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. James Franklin has had an interesting month.

628
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: He's had a very interesting week. We have gone from

629
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Penn State flying high and looking like they could be

630
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: a friend playoff contender, to losing at Iowa and then

631
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: just getting a death blow right to the shins against Illinois.

632
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: All the while, you got James Franklin's name up for

633
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of jobs, you got USC here, you got

634
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 1: LSU there. Who knows. And so I've been asked by

635
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: a lot of you point blank, I addressed it on

636
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: the podcast this morning. Actually, do I think that James

637
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Franklin is going to be the head coach at Penn

638
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: State in twenty twenty two? My short answer is yes,

639
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: I lean that way. I still think he's going to

640
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: be the head coach there. That is purely speculative. I

641
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: don't have any inside information. I don't know any more

642
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: than you do about that, just using a little intuition there.

643
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's decided. It's what I'm telling you.

644
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: So the big news out of this whole week about

645
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: James Franklin has been from the press conference he had

646
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. I mean that James Franklin

647
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: presser with the local beat there was eye opening to me.

648
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna first tell you what he said. So

649
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: what he said was, I'm fiercely loyal to Penn State.

650
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm fiercely loyal to the players here, to the staff.

651
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: But there are many moving parts. A lot of you

652
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: took that to be coded, A lot of you took

653
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: that to be disingenuous or a little bit deceitful. I'm

654
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: so totally opposite here. I think it was the most

655
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 1: honest statement he could have made. I think that's total

656
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: truth serum. I mean, I think that's literally got poured

657
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: his heart out to you. And if you can interpret

658
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: what he's saying, he's not telling you there are a

659
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: lot of moving parts, as in, I may go take

660
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: this job, I may go take that job. If you

661
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: know the Penn State situation, you know that's not really

662
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: what he's saying. What he's saying is I love Penn State.

663
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: They got to love me back. Here's where the disconnect

664
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: comes in. Here's where folks who casually understate college football

665
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: from a forty thousand foot level do not get it

666
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: enough to criticize guys like this on the ground level.

667
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how much he's being paid. James Franklin

668
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: makes a ton of money. It doesn't matter within the

669
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: context of what he's talking about. I could double his

670
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: salary today, he would not have gotten what he's asking for.

671
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: What he's asking for extends beyond how many zeros are

672
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: on his paycheck. And that's what I think a lot

673
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: of people miss in this whole thing. You have got

674
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: to understand how intricate an operation a major college football

675
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: program is, and you've got to understand the standard that

676
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: you're held to if you're at Penn State. When they

677
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: look at you at Penn State, they look at you

678
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: on Saturday and they see obviously what you make. They

679
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: see how big your roster is. I see how big

680
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: your stadium is. They see the pageantry, they see the tradition,

681
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: they see you getting the good TV slots. They think

682
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: you got everything you need. Well he doesn't. James Frankland's

683
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: got everything he needs to be lower level teams he

684
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: would dominate because they have inferior resources. But he's not

685
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: asked to dominate the FCS. James Franklin is asked to

686
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: compete on the same level that Nick Saban's at and

687
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, the guy he's going to play in forty

688
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: eight hours is at Kirby Smart and the like. And

689
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is behind the scenes, he's

690
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: not given what those guys have, but you don't know

691
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: it because it's not apparent on Saturday. Penn State has

692
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: Saturday resources. I was up there last month. It's one

693
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: of the best game Day environments imaginable. It's a great community.

694
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: Everything you see on Saturday is great. Where are you

695
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: on a random Tuesday when they're bringing recruits in in January.

696
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: You don't see it. You don't see it, so you

697
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: don't see maybe if this portion of the program's inadequate

698
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: or this portion of the facilities are inadequate. Like, how

699
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: would you ever know if the facilities for the freshmen

700
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: that come in are adequate or not? How would you

701
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: know how those measure up to what they have in Columbus, Ohio.

702
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: You wouldn't. You wouldn't. But yet that's what determines oftentimes

703
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: whether you land the top tier recruits or not. So

704
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: imagine if you've got families coming in and they're looking

705
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: at what you have, and then they're saying, Coach, I

706
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: like you, and I like this program, and I grew

707
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: up maybe even rooting for this program. But did you know,

708
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: as he pulls out his pen and paper, did you

709
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: know that the other school that recruited me has this

710
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: and this? Where is that here? At that point, it

711
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how much money you make. It doesn't matter

712
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: because what you need for the lifeblood of the sport,

713
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: which is recruiting, is not present, at least plentifully enough.

714
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: It's not present. Now you go back to the quote

715
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: from James Franklin when he says there are a lot

716
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: of moving parts. What he understands is I got leverage

717
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: because I'm valued enough. I'm a target and I've got

718
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: to use it. It's my only shot. I've got to

719
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: get more yeses around here. Essentially, James Franklin is trying

720
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: to do what Kirby Smart did. When Kirby Smart walked

721
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: into Georgia, before he even signed pen to paper, he

722
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: understood he had to convince those people. They thought they

723
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: were serious about football, they weren't serious enough because on Saturdays,

724
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: those folks have grown accustomed to complaining and grumbling because

725
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: Mark Rick wasn't meeting the Nick Saban standard. What they

726
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: didn't understand is on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday they were

727
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: not giving Mark Rick what Nick Saban had in Tuscal

728
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: looser makes it totally unfair. I'm telling you point blank,

729
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: James Franklin ain't got what Ryan Day has In Columbus, Ohio.

730
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: They're going to play Saturday and some people may think, well,

731
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: you know he's losing games now, so that means he's

732
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: losing his leverage. He's not losing any leverage. I can

733
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: promise you right now, if you think you got the

734
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: right guy, you don't care how many games he's losing

735
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: in the wrong car, because you know what, you put

736
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: him in your car, then he's going to win. So

737
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: anyone who fixed James Franklin's the right guy for their

738
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: job is not turned off if they understand what the

739
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: score is in State College, Pennsylvania, because they just look

740
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: at it and say, poor dude, he didn't have up

741
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: there what he's going to have here. I guarantee you

742
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: that when he gets here and we give him those

743
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: yeses on those nose he's getting up there, well that'll

744
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: be a new day. Then we'll see the re James Franklin. Look,

745
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: you can choose to believe in that, or you don't

746
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: believe in him. I don't really care. I'm not sitting

747
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: here carrying water for the guy. I'm just trying to

748
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: tell you it doesn't always mean what it appears to

749
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: mean on the surface. When guys make that kind of statement.

750
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he could have done, what he

751
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: could have done, have said in no comment. What he

752
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: is telling you is the truth. I believe this. I

753
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: have not spoken to James Franklin about this. I believe

754
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: what he said is the truth. He said let's read,

755
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: let's reiterate. He said, I'm fiercely loyal to Penn State.

756
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: I believe that's true. I don't believe he wants to

757
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: go anywhere. He said, I'm loyal to the players, I'm

758
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: loyal to this staff. But there are a lot of

759
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: moving parts. That translates to me to I am telling

760
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: these folks here who are in position to make decisions

761
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: that I need this, and I need this, and I

762
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: need this, and I am not getting enough traction. And

763
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the competition, and I'm looking at programs

764
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: that we lose kids to on the recruiting trail, and

765
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: they got it and I don't. At a certain point,

766
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They could double my salary, they could

767
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: triple my salary. I'm not going to win. You may

768
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: look at James Franklin. Maybe you think he's not winning

769
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: because he's not good enough. Maybe you think that I

770
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: don't know that I'm at that point. Maybe you think that,

771
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you what reality is and what he thinks,

772
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: and what I believe a lot of administrators may be

773
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: in a position to offer him a job elsewhere. Thing

774
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: They probably look at it and say, I don't really

775
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: care that he lost to Illinois. He lost to Illinois

776
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: because he didn't have enough good players. He didn't have

777
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: enough good players because he couldn't get him on campus

778
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: and to sign with him, and he couldn't get him

779
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: signed with him because they don't have adequate enough this

780
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: and this. At our place, he will have all that. Therefore,

781
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: he will get the players. Therefore, we're not losing to Illinois.

782
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: So I don't really care about that. It'll be taken

783
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: care of here. James Franklin's got leverage. Don't think for

784
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: a second that losing some of these games recently has

785
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: lost him leverage. Now, I'll tell you what else I

786
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: think he's done. I think he's also measured the risk

787
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: reward here because there are some valid counters to this,

788
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: the valid counters. You talk to a Penn State fan

789
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: long enough, they'll tell you they're worried about this being

790
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 1: used against Penn State and recruiting, and they're worried about

791
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: this maybe souring the administration because James Franklin has pulled

792
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: us before, and so they're worried that maybe we're going

793
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: to be even less likely to get changes than we

794
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: were before he opened his mouth and started talking again.

795
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: He's not stupid. James Franklin's long since calculated all that

796
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: in his mind. All that risk has been calculated and

797
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: it's been accepted, and he's moved anyway, because I'll tell

798
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: you what he's thinking. He won't probably be around there

799
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: to accept the consequences of that risk, because if he

800
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: doesn't get what he wants, he's gonna leave and you

801
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: are going to be worse off for it. Because you

802
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: may think to yourself, well, if James Franklin leaves here,

803
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: we'll go find ourselves another good coach. It's irrelevant if

804
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: he's not going to have any more resource to work

805
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: with the James Franklin has. I am not painting this

806
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: as some poverty stricken program. Please understand me. Penn State's

807
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: in the top ten to maybe even top five percent

808
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: in the country, but you're not asking them to win

809
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: nine games. You're not so for the Citrus Bowl, we're

810
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: wanting to do something more. At least that's my understanding

811
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: from Penn State fans. We want to do something more.

812
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: So it's not on you, guys. I'm just saying the

813
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: standard there is more than just pretty good seasons. I

814
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: think he's maxed out his potential. I think that program

815
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: maxed out his potential relative to what he has to

816
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: work with. Now you cannot be given him. You cannot

817
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: be giving him what Mark Rick tad and expect Kirby

818
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 1: smart results. Can't do it. I've already watched it happen

819
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: down here in my backyard. You can't do it. You

820
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: want what they have in Columbus, Ohio, Give him what

821
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: he's got in Columbus, Ohio, give him what Ryan Day has,

822
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: and then if he fails, then it's on him. I

823
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: don't put it fully on him yet. I mean, that

824
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: guy's had a really really good track record. I don't

825
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: put it solely on him, and he's not the one

826
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: asking to have excuses made for him. I just know

827
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: I got a vision in my head of what Penn

828
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: State football should be, and it's not quite there. And

829
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't solely know that it's just at the feet

830
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: of the head coach. I think there's a lot more

831
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: to hear him put it, a lot more moving parts

832
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: maybe than is apparent on the surface. So that's my

833
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: take on that right now. Opinion always subject to change.

834
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: All right, good show, Thanks for the prop Mike that

835
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: came in handy. We actually had to use it this time,

836
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: Director Colin scurrying around, able to get a show on

837
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: air and our folks done in Fort Lauderdale as well.

838
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: Hopefully we've got our audio situation racked by where we

839
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: can hit on time Sunday night. But one way or

840
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: the other, we will be here. Stay tuned for start time,

841
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: but we will be here until then. I'm headed to

842
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Michigan State tomorrow, looking forward to seeing you guys up there.

843
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: Wherever you are, have yourselves a great and safe and

844
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: try and warm somehow weekend. I'll see you Sunday night.

845
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Until they take care and God bless