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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Ye

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show, Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as

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Speaker 1: always so much for tuning in. Let's give it up

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Speaker 1: for the man, the myth, the legend, the one and only.

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Speaker 1: Mr Max Williams. Uh. Folks, they call me Bed as

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Speaker 1: always with my ride or die. Mr Noel Brown, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: coming to you a quite an auspicious time this week

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Speaker 1: because we are welcoming on air finely one of our

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Speaker 1: newest research associates, Mr Jeff Bartlett. All Right, y'all, you

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Speaker 1: know what time it is. It's here for Jeff. Jeff Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jeff is here. Oh yeah, show showy show Jeff Yeah,

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Speaker 1: actor performer, writer here in the Atlanta area and a

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Speaker 1: dear friend of ours. Jeff, welcome to the show. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here. I can tell your enthusiasm

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Speaker 1: be here. We're happy to have your So this is

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Speaker 1: no This one was kind of a long time in

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Speaker 1: enjoy to Jeff. Now, Jeff, when you're working on research

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Speaker 1: told us michelin Man, how much do you guys know

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Speaker 1: Michelin Man is the mascot of the Michelin company, which

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Speaker 1: a man made of tires. He's like a Carl Mark's

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00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: kind of figure there, you know, he's like leading the revolution.

425
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: He's coming for the fakers and the haters. Uh so,

426
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: so I can see how this would be really fun read.

427
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's satire. Uh satire Cheez Max thrown

428
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: a boo but or a wamp wamp thank you? No, yeah,

429
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: go with the drums, Max Williams. Ladies and gentlemen. So this, uh,

430
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: this is strange, Like everyone knows this is satire, they

431
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: know it's a corporate brand. They're laughing at it. And

432
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: now they're also on the Michelin side starting to realize

433
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: this is an excellent way to communicate with future tire

434
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: buyers right now, Like that's how that's how you get them.

435
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: It's fun to read, it's fun to hang out in

436
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: your mind with the Bendam. Maybe, uh, I don't know,

437
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll recommend a brand of cigar to us in

438
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: the next column. Maybe he'll tell us what beer is

439
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: most in fashion in Milan. You know, But how do

440
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: we get to how do we get to this idea

441
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: of restaurants from here? Oh, it's strangely straightforward. For such

442
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: a long time, I was like, well, seriously, mitchellin the

443
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: tire brand can't be associated with Michelin the folks who

444
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: rate restaurants. But yeah, at the beginning of the the

445
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: tire boom, uh, you know, they had rich people who

446
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: could afford cars, and they wanted to, uh say, hey,

447
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: maybe we can do something a little more here and say, um,

448
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: these are the restaurants you should go to in your

449
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: fancy cars that we're providing your tires for. And it

450
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: seems like a lot of sense at the beginning, but

451
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, at this point it doesn't seem connected at all.

452
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's the guy. He's the guy. The Bendam

453
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: is the guy recommending these restaurants two uh quote the

454
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: actual Mitchell and guide to help motorists develop their trips,

455
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: there by boosting car and tire sales. So of course, hey,

456
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: let's do something to boost our tire sales. They started

457
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: producing a small red guide filled with handy information for travelers,

458
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: such as maps, information on how to change a tire,

459
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: where to fill up with fuel, and for the traveler

460
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: in search of respite from the adventures of the day.

461
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: So they started rating restaurants. I can vibe with that,

462
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: because I mean and one reason the Guinness comparison is

463
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: so astute is that the Guinness Beer Company recognized early

464
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: on that a lot of people like to debate and

465
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: argue when there are a couple of a couple of

466
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: a couple of cans, or in their case, a couple

467
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: of points in So they got to the game early,

468
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: and they associated themselves with the idea of proving or

469
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: resolving all sorts of arguments, and then they started to

470
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: focus on world records. So it's pretty cool that Michelin

471
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: caught onto this. But from what you're describing here, Jeff,

472
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: I don't know about you know, it sounds like this

473
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: was a situation in the beginning where people would buy

474
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: tires and then they would be given the guide. Is

475
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: it something like that or was it just sort of

476
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: all around a city? At first? It just started in Paris.

477
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: They started giving the guides out with the tires Uh

478
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: in the nine twenties, including lists of like hotels, restaurants,

479
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: specific categories like that. And it was a good way

480
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: to get out of having paid for advertisements and the guide.

481
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: Restaurants wouldn't have to pay for anything. They could just

482
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: be listed in the Michelin Guide, and both the restaurants

483
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: and Michelin would prosper without any of them really having

484
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: to spend money. Yeah, it does make sense. This is

485
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: like an advertising coup. It's a win win, as they

486
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: would say in corporate American parlance. But now we have

487
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: to talk. I think about a dream job. Can we

488
00:35:47,120 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: get like a dream job? Q Max? There it is, there,

489
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know about you know, but I

490
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: I enjoy it. I'm grateful to hang out with our

491
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: crew on this show. But every so often, I too,

492
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: have dreamed to beat a mystery Dieter. Do you ever

493
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: want to do that? It's like a secret shopper kind

494
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: of right, where you go in and pretend like you're

495
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: a civilian. But in fact, you're they're infiltrating the restaurants

496
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: um in order to write a potentially game changing review

497
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: that could you know, up the profile of this place

498
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: or absolutely crushed their dreams of restaurants success. And nowadays

499
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: the sad thing is that everyone is their own mystery

500
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: diner just by virtue of having a Yelp accounts. Yeah,

501
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: it's it is true. But but like michelin got involved

502
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: with this, right they they they weren't sending people dressed

503
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: as the Michelin Man to restaurants where they how would

504
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: you do the soup? Right? He's got no fingies? Does

505
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: he have fingies? He's more of like a glove, like

506
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: a mitten. Right? Does he? I feel like I can't

507
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: really picture his digits he's got Yeah, that's actually a

508
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: good question. He has he has digits. He does have digits. Okay,

509
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: excuse me, please forgive me from aligning the michelin Man's appendages.

510
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: My pal has been a lot. I've been through a lot.

511
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: So the At this point, the reformed alcoholic michelin Man

512
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: gets a gets a team of human diners who I

513
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: didn't know the proper term for them until you introduced

514
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: it to us Jeff Restaurants inspectors. I feel like you

515
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: should get a badge, you know that you can flash

516
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: at people at the end of the middle licensed. Yeah,

517
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah. Uh. There should be some qualifications.

518
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: You can't just have an Instagram accounts. Maybe, but this

519
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: so also peak again behind the curtain. We paid for

520
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: this curtain. We're going to use the curtain more. We

521
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: have a good friend of the show, Christopher Hasiotis, who

522
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: is a food critic of Note. You knew that, right, no,

523
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, very good taste that Christopher Aciots have

524
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: had the pleasure of dining with them a few times

525
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: and having him recommend some fabulous restaurants. Yeah. Anytime Christopher

526
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: Christopher gives you a restaurant recommendation, you listen and if

527
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: you can get in, and that's where you go. Uh.

528
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: And we've gotta we've gotta have Chris Christopher on the

529
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: show again. But what he's doing, what a food critic

530
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: is doing, is different from what these mystery diners or

531
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: restaurant inspectors are doing. They're not supposed to be idea divide,

532
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be anonymous, right, so they're like gutty

533
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: a food inspectors or their spy uh spy restaurants people.

534
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: Uh Are they the ones who give the stars? I

535
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: believe they are. That's that's the strange thing about it,

536
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: and I sort of wish it was more like that.

537
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: It reminds me of um Ratatui, where they're expecting a

538
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: restaurant review and so they do everything in their power

539
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: to help make everything perfect. And that's sort of why

540
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: I I'm not a I'm not a huge fan of

541
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: the of yelp and such. You know it, it exists,

542
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: It's great, it can be. I like the idea of

543
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: these secret reviewers and the Michelin reviewers our secret they today.

544
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: I believe so. Yes, so it could be any one

545
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: of us. We could Maybe we're all mitchelndber yours. I

546
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: am actually the Michelin man. No, I had my suspicions.

547
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: This is just like John Carpenter's the thing which I

548
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: was not expecting in this show. All right, we need

549
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: we need a blood test, max if if you're bleeding,

550
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: rubber Man, We're still going to have to do the

551
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: show for contractual reasons. But poke, poke with a poke

552
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: with any implementency. If there's air leaking out, yes, yes,

553
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: this is not the turn I was expecting old, but

554
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: I like where we're going with the one we got though,

555
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: you know, it's the one we got so uh. So

556
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: these guides are these mystery diners, these restaurants inspectors. Uh,

557
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: they're working with the Michelin Guide, and by nineteen twenty six,

558
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: the guide starts to give its points two restaurants. Uh.

559
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: Initially they're all fine dining establishments. I mean it's still

560
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: like always pretty fine dining or very special places. And

561
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: I was it was fascinating to find that. In the beginning,

562
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: it was just like they were giving people stars, just

563
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: like in sing spool you get a gold star. Yeah,

564
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: single stars. So when did they start adding more stars?

565
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: In about ninety six they decided on the three star system,

566
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: which is again something we were talking about before because

567
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: most places rank things by five stars, but Michelin has

568
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: always been just one to three. That means that the

569
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: the individual stars are just way more valuable then in

570
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: a five star system, you know. And uh, and so

571
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: one star again, one star, one star review and a

572
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: five star ranking system is a bad review, but a

573
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: one Michelin star, you know, is very special. Mm hmm.

574
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: I think also with the one Michelin star, the implication

575
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: is keep your eye on this restaurant or keep your

576
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: eye on the chef they're going. And they don't give

577
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: stars out willie nilly. It's only they review every restaurant.

578
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: Every restaurant gets on that spectrum at all. It's like

579
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: you've really got to be in the top notch, in

580
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: the top echelon of restaurants to even rank. And that's

581
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: where it really does differ a lot from things like

582
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: crowdsourced Yelp or whatever, you know, where anyone can give

583
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: any star to anything for any reason. Mitchellan will only

584
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: give you a star or two stars or three stars.

585
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: And it's also it's a it's a legacy thing. Like

586
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: I said at the top of the show, it's the

587
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: fact that they were first to market with this type

588
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: of you know, guide, that they became the authority um

589
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: despite its seeming like it doesn't make a whole lot

590
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: of sense, the fact they were the first one to

591
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: do it, and then they realized that people were paying

592
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: a lot of attention to it because they were really

593
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: kind of the only game in town. UM. And then

594
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: over time it's just continued to have that impact and

595
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: to have that kind of cashe um and they've really

596
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 1: been good stewards of that because you know, you can

597
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: pretty reliably know that if a restaurant has a Michelin

598
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: Star that it's something to be you know, taken seriously.

599
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: And chefs, you know, the top chefs in the world, uh,

600
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: feel the same way. And really and you can lose

601
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: a Michelin star too, by the way they can take

602
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: it away. M hmm. I have a feel like it's

603
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: just like the Michelin manager shows up and it's like,

604
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: I am taking this from me. Just peels it off

605
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: your restaurant. Yeah, like like in like bugs Buddy cartoons

606
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: or they like, you know, they're literally dressing down like

607
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: a millet. Like it generally rips off all the epaulets

608
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: and the you know, the general the kind of badges

609
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: and merit badges or whatever. Yeah. This is uh and

610
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: this is interesting too. This isn't just brilliant advertising for

611
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: the restaurants. It's also aimed at least it its origin,

612
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: it's aimed squarely at people who were on the fence

613
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: about the expense of buying a motor vehicle, right you, Jeff,

614
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: you told us that nineteen there were fewer than three

615
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: thousand cars on the roads of France, the country, the

616
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: entire thing, not Paris. Imagine Paris alone with just three

617
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: thousand cars. Today people would be dancing in the streets.

618
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: But they did this to increase demand for tires, to

619
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: get people on on board with the idea. Right like

620
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: in Madmen, you're selling an idea. You're selling a dream,

621
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: the dream of driving on the open road. Uh. And

622
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: there's no arguing. They met with great success. I was

623
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: surprised to find that the Michelin guides have become best

624
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: sellers multiple times. Spoiler you I think you do have

625
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: to buy them? Now? You do? You do? They were

626
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: free at first. It was kind of almost sad with

627
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: Andre Michelin. For two decades, all that information came at

628
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: no cost until a faithful encounter that that remains a

629
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: favorite anecdote repeated today when Andre himself arrived at one

630
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: of his tire shops to see his beloved guides being

631
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: used to prop up a work bench. Oh no, sort

632
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: of like those A O. L discs we always just get.

633
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: Eventually they start to lose their their their value, and

634
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: you just get them in the mail every week and

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Speaker 1: people started using those for like doorstops. So yeah, after

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Speaker 1: that he started selling them for I think seven francs,

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Speaker 1: and so that became its own business. And that's sort

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Speaker 1: the restaurant guide because it doesn't seem like they fit together.

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Speaker 1: But um, that's why he started selling them at his

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Speaker 1: tire shops nuts and and there we have it, folks,

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Speaker 1: the relatively little known story of the Bendam, the crazy, smoking,

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Speaker 1: drinking and driving tire mascot who later learned his lesson

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Speaker 1: and reformed UH and became a bit of a food critic,

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Speaker 1: a bit of a gourmand, if you will. Uh, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the show with

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Speaker 1: us today. We love, love love introducing UH, introducing the

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Speaker 1: team at large to all our fellow ridiculous historians and

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Speaker 1: uh nol. I guess you know. At this point, we've

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Speaker 1: we've both learned a lot. Um. We've both been to

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Speaker 1: Michelin restaurants in the past, I know, UM, and we

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Speaker 1: have some of our favorites. But uh, I got to

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Speaker 1: tell you, even knowing all we had just learned today,

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Speaker 1: I still think the original Michelin man is super creepy,

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Speaker 1: super duper creepy. Well, you know, we didn't even we

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Speaker 1: describe him a bit, but I just I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to point out that as I was looking through some

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Speaker 1: vintage photos which you can find yourself with a quick

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Speaker 1: cursory goog um, he looks more like a mummy than anything.

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's almost like a weird, square headed mummy

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Speaker 1: where the tire things look more like bandage wraps than

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Speaker 1: they do what they're intended. And back to my question

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Speaker 1: about the fingies in the original costume, they just didn't

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Speaker 1: have a gloved part and so just the human it

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Speaker 1: had human hands, which made it even more strange and creepy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sexy and feeling it. And also, as we're ending today's show,

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Speaker 1: since from McDonald came up, I wanted to give a

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Speaker 1: big thanks to everybody. Went to our Facebook page Ridiculous

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Speaker 1: a story ins and posted pictures of the Ronald McDonald

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Speaker 1: vestiges in their own neck of the Global Woods. Just

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Speaker 1: like the early michelin Man. Those things are kind of creepy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And we are creeping up on Halloween, one of my

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Speaker 1: most favorite times of the year. Uh, So hopefully we

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Speaker 1: can get some some spooky stories of ages past on

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Speaker 1: vintage michelin Man. No, take some regular hands, Yeah, regular hands.

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Speaker 1: I bet we could get one car and speaking a cigar. Ye. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get the cops called if you're walking around

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Speaker 1: that thing, and you probably deserve it as well. You

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Speaker 1: should as well, you should. Nobody wants that. Nobody wants

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Speaker 1: that thing walking around. But we do want to hear

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Speaker 1: from you. We want to hear your stories of mascots

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Speaker 1: of yesteryear. Uh, the ones that you love, the ones

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Speaker 1: that really freak you out, the ones that you think

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Speaker 1: most people may have forgotten. You can find us on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: as we said, ridiculous historians. We're still working on our MySpace,

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Speaker 1: but more news to come. We're probably not gonna get

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Speaker 1: a TikTok. I don't I don't think we I don't

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Speaker 1: think we need TikTok. We're already talking about how old

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Speaker 1: we are in person, about the meetings and TikTok at

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Speaker 1: this point, I mean, it just it would just seems

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Speaker 1: like a like a real like cry for attention. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: carry a pigeon telegraph. Thank you, Samuel with Moss, please

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Speaker 1: please do contact us. I mean, we just basically barely

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Speaker 1: figured out Instagram. I'm not ready for another platform. You know,

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Speaker 1: we've been We've been toying with this Pinterest page for

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Speaker 1: years now, and pictures isn't even hardly a thing anymore.

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Speaker 1: Maybe in another five years time or year old. We're

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Speaker 1: thinking long term. You know, that's our Event Horizon. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying that because I recently rewatched Event Horizon. It's amazing,

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Speaker 1: dude movie. Because you may remember Ben, when that came out,

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Speaker 1: it was really advertised just speaking of truth and advertising

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Speaker 1: as a sci fi romp, you know, through the reach

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Speaker 1: of the far reaches of space, turns out not really

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Speaker 1: a spoiler alert, more of a cautionary alert. Uh. It

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Speaker 1: is a gore fest existential, dread filled horror nightmare of

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Speaker 1: lovecrafty in proportions, Lovecraft is where we're going. You won't

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Speaker 1: heal Razor in space basically well yeah, uh oh, and

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Speaker 1: we just uh shout out to our pal Dave Bruckner,

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Speaker 1: who uh just directed the newest hull Razor. Good on

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Speaker 1: you man, UM check it out. Let's know what you think, uh,

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Speaker 1: and let us know about these mascots. UM can't wait

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Speaker 1: to hear from you. Thanks as always, to our super producer,

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Speaker 1: Mr Max Williams, thanks to our UH one half of

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Speaker 1: our new research associate team, thanks to Jeff Bartlett, and

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Speaker 1: thanks to Zach Williams no relation. We call him Doctors

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Speaker 1: act now he earned it UH and and thanks of

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Speaker 1: course through our special guest today, Mr Jeff Bartlett NOL.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to you, man. I feel like a road trip.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling a road trip to a restaurant, like your

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Speaker 1: road trip. You're welcome. And by the way, shot speaking

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Speaker 1: at a restaurants, I don't think they have a Michelin

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Speaker 1: star you. But I checked out a new Atlanta restaurant

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Speaker 1: called De Boca and Boca or in Bocca de Bok

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Speaker 1: I forget. It's like a really nice, upscale kind of

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Speaker 1: Mexican restaurant that does incredible tacos. And they had like

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Speaker 1: Beeria tacos and they do like, you know, tomahawk steak.

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Speaker 1: You know what is it? Carne ASADA's really really amazing.

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Speaker 1: Check it out and do check out those early pictures

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Speaker 1: of the initialivan Nightmare Fuel. We'll see you next time, folks.

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