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Speaker 1: It's the question we've all wanted the answer to. When

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Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray returning soon? According to Kyler, Welcome Bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me, just exactly what

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Speaker 1: does soon meet? Also news on the d line and

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Speaker 1: it's not good news. That position group suffers another hit.

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Speaker 1: And how do the Cardinals slow down Cowboys linebacker Micah

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode six seventy five, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Bud to Baker, what Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 3: so far Urry Magic Yay.

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Speaker 2: Here's Craig Grioloud.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into the football, and there is a

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Speaker 1: football tie in with this. No matter how small or

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Speaker 1: large your family or extended family may be, there are

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Speaker 1: always favorites or a favorite, and we have learned here

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Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals that in the surrec family, Danny is

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Speaker 4: Oh, don't go that far, because if you're just gonna

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Speaker 4: have a blanket statement like that, I cannot be further

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Speaker 1: No, we don't just run with it.

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 4: I've never called myself the favorite in general. No, I

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Speaker 4: So my sister on Wednesday get a text from her.

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Speaker 4: It says, I dropped him off at school and everyone

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Speaker 4: When I talked to him on Monday, Tuesday, whatever day

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Speaker 4: And within minutes I was very shocked to see that.

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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray himself responded and said, would love to sign

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Speaker 1: It needs to be brought up that you did.

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Speaker 4: Not tag, or that does need to be brought up, Craig.

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Speaker 1: You did not tag Kyler an not a hashtag or

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Speaker 4: You know what makes it even better, Craig, is that

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Speaker 1: This is a big week for you for me, No,

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, mister Shrek is unnotice we need a happy

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Speaker 1: Danny Surrek postgame on Sunday. We just basically the entire

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Speaker 1: You'll learn a lot about yourself in these types of moments.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you more than you'll ever know. I won't

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Speaker 4: You know what, this is what people want to see.

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Speaker 4: How many times has Kyler Murray been criticized because he

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Speaker 4: You need to see what you have in Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: It does not benefit the team. It does not benefit

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Speaker 4: Right, but I mean I was out here by week three.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get a little ed you stop him.

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be a game you're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: This Dallas defense ranks number one in eleven different categories,

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Speaker 1: This earlier on the Red Sea Report. I'll do it

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Speaker 1: again here on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hundai, proud

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Peter King has covered the

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Speaker 1: National Football League for a number of years. His opinion

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Speaker 1: Morning in America column, he wrote this about Michah Parsons quote,

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Speaker 4: way to finish the game strong.

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Speaker 1: Three quarters of football Cardinals are undefeated. Unfortunately, great news,

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Speaker 1: it's four quarters and the Cardinals are looking at an

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Speaker 1: zero to two record with the Dallas Cowboys coming to

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Speaker 1: town on Sunday. As we continue here talking about that

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Speaker 1: matchup on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, proudly partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, the news of the day on

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Speaker 1: the field I the news of the days was about

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and his workout video. But news of the

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Speaker 1: day on the field again always seems to be the case.

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Speaker 1: There's always a position group and there always seems to

447
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Speaker 1: be a certain injury within that position group that bothers

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Speaker 1: or is plaguing a team, regardless of sport. For the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty three, the position group is

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Speaker 1: defensive line and the injury is a biceps. We've had LJ.

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Speaker 1: Collier and now Carlos Watkins. Watkins likely to head to

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Speaker 1: IR here sooner rather than later. Collier is already there.

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Speaker 1: Collier has had surgery, Watkins is going to have surgery.

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Speaker 1: No one has been ruled out, though the expectation because

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Speaker 1: of the nature of the injury and the surgery and

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Speaker 1: the recovery, I would not expect to see Watkins back

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Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals this season, which is unfortunate because

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Speaker 1: one Collier had been playing very very well in a

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Speaker 1: short amount of time. Both signed on one year deals

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Speaker 1: in the offseason to bolster up that defensive line room,

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Speaker 1: and now it is a room that has a lot

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Speaker 1: of question marks and could be a huge liability for

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: When it rains. Of course, I mean looking at the

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Speaker 4: defense as a whole. Josh Woods still dealing with an ankle,

466
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Speaker 4: hasn't practiced miss last week's game. Buddha Baker went on

467
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Speaker 4: IR after Sunday's game, which you didn't play in because

468
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Speaker 4: of a hamstring. The defense I feel like looked good,

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Speaker 4: especially in that first week, because we've talked about you

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Speaker 4: don't have the big name star power really any position,

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Speaker 4: but it seemed like whether that was just making the

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Speaker 4: most of what you had or the scheme that there

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Speaker 4: was enough good in all the positions it looked like

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Speaker 4: it was going to work. A big part of that

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Speaker 4: was the rotation outside linebacker and defensive line. Again, no

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Speaker 4: big star power names, but by doing that, you are

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Speaker 4: getting the best out of what you have. You are

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Speaker 4: keeping their legs fresh, you are keeping the offense on

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Speaker 4: their toes. That now changes when Ledbetter Jonathan Ledbetter is

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Speaker 4: having to play more on the defensive line because you

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Speaker 4: don't have Collier, You're now not going to have Watkins.

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Speaker 4: So thankfully, Lucky Fotu, who missed Week two with a shoulder,

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Speaker 4: was out of practice and so he should be good

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Speaker 4: to go moving forward. But that's a big question mark

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Speaker 4: is you are relying on those top six defensive linemen

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Speaker 4: and you are going to rotate them and suddenly that

487
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Speaker 4: isn't really an option. So are the snap counts going

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Speaker 4: to be lobsided? Is that going to change the way

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Speaker 4: that you are utilizing your defensive lineman, which is going

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Speaker 4: to change the way you're using your linebackers you're outside linebackers.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of question marks. And while that's going

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Speaker 4: to change week to week depending on who you're going

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Speaker 4: against or other injuries, are people coming back. I really

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Speaker 4: do think that losing Watkins and Collier can really change

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Speaker 4: how you use your front seven because you're not gonna

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Speaker 4: be able to have the same rotation on that D

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Speaker 4: line that you had week one, that you were planning

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Speaker 4: on having for the season.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have a rotation, it's just gonna be different names.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be second team, third team guys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're a starter for a reason, and now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you lose a starter, and that means a

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Speaker 1: backup becomes a starter. But the backup is not as

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Speaker 1: good as a starter, So yeah, the level of play

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Speaker 1: drops off. Now you always hear next man up, but

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Speaker 1: there's you get to a point where you only have

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Speaker 1: so many of those within the same position group. You

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Speaker 1: want five defensive linemen to rotate. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: Nick Rolis wants to do. But he wants to keep

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Speaker 1: those snap counts between thirty and forty. And when you

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Speaker 1: have Ledbetter and Kevin Strong playing fifty snaps against the

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Speaker 1: Giants because Watkins leaves early in the first half and

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Speaker 1: you bring in Dante Stills first career game, and then

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Speaker 1: Eric Banks, who did not play a ton last year.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he only played one game the Cardinals, So

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Speaker 1: you have so a lot of inexperience. So that's why

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Speaker 1: I led better and strong. We're on the field for

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Speaker 1: so long and they did wear out. Rallis didn't agree

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Speaker 1: with that. Gannon didn't agree with that assessment. But let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, a defensive lineman is not supposed to play

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Speaker 1: fifty or more snaps in a game. That's not what

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Speaker 1: that position requires, especially within this defense, when you are

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Speaker 1: conditioned to be rotated in and out.

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Speaker 4: And not only that, but look at the type of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones was a good example of being able to

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Speaker 4: get out of the pocket and extend the plays and

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Speaker 4: move and that's a different kind of offense to have

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Speaker 4: to defend against, as opposed to somebody who's going to

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Speaker 4: stay in the pocket and just hand the ball to

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Speaker 4: running back. Like there's I agree. I think you could

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Speaker 4: see stamina kind of falling off. So I think while

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Speaker 4: they might not be big names, everybody knows about what L. J.

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Speaker 4: Collier and Carlos Watkins. Losing these two likely for the

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Speaker 4: season is raw. And then on top of that, you

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Speaker 4: are missing your star player and Buddha Baker for at

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Speaker 4: least four weeks. So now you're without your best player

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Speaker 4: on offense and Kyler Murray, your best player on defense,

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Speaker 4: and Buddha Baker. I mean, this is this is some

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Speaker 4: early adversity for this team and for this coaching staff

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Speaker 4: to try and work around.

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Speaker 1: Don't see a lot of rotation in that secondary rawlis

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Speaker 1: even brought up. He expects defensive backs, linebackers to play

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Speaker 1: every single snap. It's better if you can rotate and

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Speaker 1: edge rusher to keep them fresh. But in the back end,

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Speaker 1: this Cardinals team has relied on Buddha Baker, Jalen Thompson,

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Speaker 1: Marco Wilson, and Keith Trell Clark. Now, if you're going

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Speaker 1: to play with that third safety, it's been Kavon Wallace. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well you subtract Buddha from the equation and it's Jalen Thompson,

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Speaker 1: Kavon Wallace. And on Sunday it was Andre Sasserai, who

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Speaker 1: has been with the team over the years, but played

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Speaker 1: his first game as an Arizona Cardinal on Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: all three of those say played better than ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of the defensive snaps. I'm curious does that change with

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Speaker 1: a full week of practice. Do you keep that three

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Speaker 1: safety rotation or does it Antonio Hamilton, who hasn't seen

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Speaker 1: a ton of snaps on defense, a Christian Matthew see

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Speaker 1: his first defensive snaps because that third safety becomes your

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Speaker 1: slot corner. Now, Jalen Thompson can play that position, he

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Speaker 1: plays it very well. But do you want him on

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Speaker 1: the back end playing Buddha's role because that were he's

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Speaker 1: best suited for this defense.

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Speaker 4: That'll definitely be something interesting to see. And I think

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Speaker 4: you're right. I think at that specific example, that situation

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Speaker 4: is more about where Jalen Thompson fits best for your

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Speaker 4: needs without Buddha Baker and going up against the specific

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Speaker 4: Cowboys offense. I think it's more about that rather than

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Speaker 4: we need to get into Onio Hamilton, we need to

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Speaker 4: get Christian Matthew more snaps. In terms of that, I

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Speaker 4: think it's more where do we put Jalen Thompson to

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Speaker 4: get the most out of him and the most out

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Speaker 4: of the defense in the situation we're in and.

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Speaker 1: This week likely because Ceedee Lamb, looking at some of

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Speaker 1: the numbers, has played a lot in the slot. He

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Speaker 1: has the most receiving yards from the slot position. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So if you believe Jalen Thompson has a better slot

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Speaker 1: corner than a Antonio Hamilton, then maybe for this week

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Speaker 1: it's JT and then next week it could be Antonio.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there is a definitive answer to

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Speaker 1: your point, Danny, that we're okay, this is what we're

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Speaker 1: going to do now. Okay, well, this is what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do now this week, and it might change next week,

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Speaker 1: next month. The other wrinkling all this is Marco Wilson.

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Speaker 1: He did not play well on Sunday. He was darnwright awful.

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Speaker 1: Seven catches for one hundred and fifty five yards on

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Speaker 1: nine targets. Now, can he have a balance back performance?

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Speaker 1: Or is Antonio Hamilton seen some time at corner backing

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Speaker 1: up Marco or Key trou Clark, or is that Christian Matthew.

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Speaker 1: There's a number of different moving parts here in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know which way that defense will look

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Speaker 1: specifically this week.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that is something that could be ruled

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Speaker 4: out in terms of if the performance is not up

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Speaker 4: to par, this coaching staff making a change. I don't

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Speaker 4: see them as a staff that's well, this is how

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Speaker 4: we started, he earned this spot. We're just going to

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Speaker 4: ride with him. I mean, especially the cornerback position. Really,

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Speaker 4: it kind of seems like, while he had played well

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Speaker 4: in progress each year, it kind of felt like the

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Speaker 4: starting role more so fell into Marco Wilson's lap, and

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Speaker 4: then he just didn't lose it. So I don't think

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Speaker 4: you're wrong that if the performance continues to not be

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Speaker 4: up to par, I do think you could see a

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Speaker 4: change there.

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Speaker 1: He did get picked on talking about Marco Wilson. Does

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Speaker 1: that open up the door for someone else? Or was

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Speaker 1: that a one off? And hopefully it is just a

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Speaker 1: one off? Four Marco Wilson. Again, it is a huge

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Speaker 1: challenge coming up on Sunday. The Dallas Cowboys best team

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Speaker 1: in the league according to many, not.

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Speaker 3: Me, not you.

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Speaker 4: Let's specify that, okay.

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Speaker 1: According to Mini Many not named Danny Sirek, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys two and oh and let's remember that a

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Speaker 1: year ago. And again, I'm getting to something here, Danny.

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Speaker 1: A year ago. The first start of twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: for Josh Dobbs was against the Dallas Cowboys. With the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans now here for the first time in his career,

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Speaker 1: He's going to start three straight games in a row

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and start number three is against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: And you had a chance to speak with mister Dobbs

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Speaker 1: earlier as part of Sideline Exchange I did.

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Speaker 4: He was a great interview. We covered a whole range

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Speaker 4: of topics, specifically what allowed that night and day change

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Speaker 4: from week one to week two and what realistic expectations

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Speaker 4: are and what type of plays were left out on

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Speaker 4: the field and how you change that. Talked about better

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Speaker 4: execution in the fourth quarter and what this team needs

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Speaker 4: to do to have a stronger finish. We talked a

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Speaker 4: lot about the Cowboys defense as well, and Micah Parsons

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Speaker 4: and how you try and find or create holes in

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Speaker 4: that defense that are not hard or not easy to

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Speaker 4: come by. So talked with him on Wednesday. That should

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Speaker 4: be out Thursday on social media Channel's website YouTube channel.

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Speaker 4: All the good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now, when you talk to him, was he wearing the

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Speaker 1: Florida Gator's shirt like he was when he walked in

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Speaker 1: to do his weekly press conference with he was not.

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Speaker 4: He was wearing Cardinals gear, head to toe hat, sweatshirt, shorts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, need to figure this out because Dobbs lost to

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Speaker 1: bet to DJ Humphries Florida Tennessee rivalry. Humphreys a Gator,

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Speaker 1: Dobbs Tennessee volunteer, and the volunteers lost. They got upset. Now,

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Speaker 1: I just wonder if what Dobbs did wearing it just

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Speaker 1: walking into the press conference and he took it off,

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Speaker 1: didn't even wear it with you during your sideline exchange.

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Speaker 1: Was that good enough to make good on this bet

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Speaker 1: with DJ?

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Speaker 4: Might have to ask TJ in the locker room. It

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Speaker 4: was pretty funny. I was walking out on the field

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Speaker 4: before we got Josh miked up and ready to go

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Speaker 4: for the interview. She kind of talking about moving to

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Speaker 4: Arizona and how things have been. He asked how long

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Speaker 4: I've been here and I said, oh, I've been here

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Speaker 4: two years. I was actually with the Cowboys before this.

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Speaker 4: He's like, oh really, and I was like, yeah, So

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Speaker 4: if you can pull out a win, I would really

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Speaker 4: appreciate it. Was like, oh, it's a lio a revenge

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Speaker 4: game for it. I was like, yeah, I would really

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Speaker 4: be grateful for a win this week of all weeks.

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Speaker 1: And he left, look at you using the connections, the

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Speaker 1: inside knowledge to get something for yourself.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 4: Well, it wouldn't just be for me. The win would

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Speaker 4: benefit everybody, Craig, but.

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Speaker 1: More so, but more so for you though. Who would

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Speaker 1: be the most happy walking off the field at State

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Speaker 1: Farm Stadium on Sunday, Carl No.

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Speaker 4: I gotta say when when these two teams played in

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Speaker 4: January of twenty twenty two, my first year here, I

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Speaker 4: went to the game in Dallas. It was the first

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Speaker 4: game I traveled too. I had probably the biggest grin

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Speaker 4: ever walking off the field. I remember I interviewed Zach

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Speaker 4: Allen after the game outside the locker room. I had

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Speaker 4: the biggest grin after that game.

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Speaker 1: You thanked him very much, didn't you?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, just remember Danny, you are the favorite.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm going to ride that as long as

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Speaker 4: I can because I have not been the favorite, maybe

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Speaker 4: if ever ever come I'm the middle child I was.

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Speaker 4: I was a trouble child.

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Speaker 1: You got the hand me downs, you never got anything new.

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Speaker 4: No, that's not necessarily true, but I was definitely trouble.

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Speaker 4: I think bless me about being trouble and my other

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Speaker 4: two sisters just being very good.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I might have to dive into that a

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Speaker 1: little bit later on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe off there.

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Speaker 1: On that note, before we get Danny in in any trouble,

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Speaker 1: because we want to make sure she stays a favorite.

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Speaker 1: We'll put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Covered

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Speaker 1: two presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mama,

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Speaker 1: our associate producer Coddy Fincher. For Danny sirek, I'm Craig

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Speaker 1: real Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two