1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Robert Lamban. This is the Monster Fact, 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: a short form series from Stuff to Blow Your Mind, 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: focusing on mythical creatures, ideas, and monsters in time. Like 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: a lot of people from my generation, the nineteen eighty 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: four film The Never Ending Story has a special place 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: in my heart. While full of escapist fantasy and fun, 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: it also challenged me in a way that most other 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: Family films just didn't, pushing the boundaries of what I 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: was capable of processing at a young age. From the 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: trials of the Swamp of Sadness to the terrifying menace 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: of Gomork the Great Wolf, an agent of the power 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: behind the Nothing. As you'll remember, Gomork appears as a 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: great wolf much like the Norse fin Rear, capable of 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: speech and reasons sent by his mysterio is benefactors referred 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: to as the manipulators in the original nineteen seventy nine 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: novel by Michael Inda To Kill the hero a Tray 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: realize through practical effects like the Luck Dragon foulcre there's 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: just a tangible threat to the creature, and we experience 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: this a nihilistic hatred and oozes off the screen. Now 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: it would be many, many years before I finally read 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: the novel for the first time with my own child, 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: by the way, and it has become one of my 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: all time favorites. The events of the film only encompassed 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: the first half of the novel, and as is almost 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: always the case, the book explores its various concepts with 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: greater depth and nuance. For example, we learn much more 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: about Gomork and his mission. Gomork is a werewolf, but 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: one that differs significantly from the common folklore and horror 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: movie creature. In the world of humans, he has a 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: human form. In the world of Fantasia, the world of 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: human fantasy, he has a wolf's form, but he is 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: neither and is a creature with no world of his own. 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: As such, he is driven by spite and hatred for 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: humans and Vantasians alike quote because you creatures had a 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: world and I didn't. Furthermore, we learn that his aid 37 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: to the manipulators is more general. He's not merely the 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: chosen assassin of a tray you, but their agent in 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: a grand scheme to better control human beings of the 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: mundane world. When Fantasians fall into the nothing, they are 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: not annihilated. Instead, they're reborn in the human world as 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: quote delusions in the minds of human beings, fears where 43 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: there is nothing to fear, desires for vain, hurtful things, 44 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: despairing thoughts where there is no reason to despair. It 45 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: just gives me chill bumps to think about that. The 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: pure joy of creativity and dream when psycled through the nothing, 47 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: through the machinery of manipulation, becomes almost pure psychic trauma 48 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: for human beings. As I've watched my own child grow up, 49 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: as I reflect on mind my childhood, I feel that 50 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: I find myself holding on as hard as possible to 51 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: the bits of fantasia in myself, in those I love, 52 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: because I can observe, like all of you can observe, 53 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: the way our human capacity for creativity is so often 54 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: co opted into anxiety and negative thought patterns, into conspiracy 55 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: thinking and embellished hatred. Make no mistake, the manipulators are 56 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: hard at work in our world, personifications of the more 57 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: harmful aspects of contemporary culture, technology, and politics, and the 58 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: gomork In spirit continues to hunt our fantasies and dreams. 59 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: Maybe on some level even with just the film. We 60 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: children of the eighties and nineties understood this, We saw 61 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: the threat. We saw a true adversary in Gomork, one 62 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: whose menace would not become completely clear till much later 63 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: in our lives. Again, I cannot recommend Indas The Never 64 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: Ending Story highly enough. It's such a great book and 65 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: it speaks to all ages and reveals much. If you're 66 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: a fan of the film, well, you've got an entire 67 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: additional half novel on top of that story. And if 68 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: you never cared for the film you found it lacking 69 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: in one way or another, I would say, don't let 70 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: that stand in your way of checking out the original book, 71 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: because it is just one of a kind. It's absolutely amazing, 72 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: all right. Tune in for additional episodes of The Monster, Fact, 73 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: The Artifact or Animalius Dependium each week. 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