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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. What up, Good morning to you, Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 1: Is the NBA this time of year and injuries this

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Speaker 1: time of year. We can get into Lebron a couple

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Speaker 1: of days ago and what he said about basically blaming

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Speaker 1: COVID on this rash of injuries to all stars. But

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Speaker 1: you got the you have the Brooklyn Nets last night,

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Speaker 1: still banged up James Harden. I don't know what percentage

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Speaker 1: of real James Harden we had but it's not one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent. James Harden. Kevin Durant a good effort, but

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Speaker 1: not the herculean effort he was able to put together

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Speaker 1: in Game five, and the Bucks are able to draw

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Speaker 1: the series equal. Right? Is eric Key and Kenny come

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Speaker 1: away with any big takeaway after you watch game six, Doug?

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Speaker 1: Of course you can. First of all, happy early Father's

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Speaker 1: Day weekend to you, Doug. Shout out to my father

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Speaker 1: for an early Father's Day weekend. I do not feel

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Speaker 1: great though about Mike Budenholzer and Doc Rivers heading into

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Speaker 1: Father's Day weekend. This could be a tough one for him,

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Speaker 1: I will say, Doug. I said after Game five, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you said, a herculean effort from Kevin Durant led

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Speaker 1: them to the win. But look at the last two games, Doug. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks have basically outplayed the Nets in five of

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Speaker 1: the eight quarters. One was a stand sill other than

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant going postal in like the finals sixteen minutes

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Speaker 1: of Game five. The Bucks have been the better team.

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Speaker 1: And I know they have the worst coach, I know

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Speaker 1: they have the worst superstar. I know they're on the road,

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Speaker 1: but I think I'm going to talk myself into the

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks, who were favored by Vegas heading into Gaye seven.

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Speaker 1: I think I may take the Bucks. And which is

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Speaker 1: you know, hold your nose play on Father's Day weekend. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: we don't know exactly what's going to happen as far

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Speaker 1: as who plays, and this does get into tonight's game

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Speaker 1: a little bit, right, and we're like when Kawai went

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Speaker 1: down with a knee injury, which though it hasn't officially

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Speaker 1: been announced as a torn acl out for the year,

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Speaker 1: at the all signs point to that. When Kawai went down,

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Speaker 1: I said on my show, and by the way, you

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Speaker 1: can check out Jason's Straight Fire podcast which he drops

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Speaker 1: in a daily and then you can listen to the

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, which is daily on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: three to sixty eastern twel three Pacific. When when the

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Speaker 1: injury initially happened, I said, like, look at at look

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Speaker 1: what they were able to do going back to their

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Speaker 1: last game in Game five, which is that first game

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Speaker 1: when the team is down a guy or down two

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Speaker 1: guys and the favorite team won there's just expectations that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win, right, they's just expecting. It's it's impossible

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Speaker 1: not to think when Kawhi, when Leonard went down, this

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Speaker 1: series is over. It's impossible not to think that. When

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving and James Harden are both out, You're like,

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Speaker 1: this series is over. But you gotta keep in mind

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Speaker 1: gotta as we've seen with Tyler, like you got to

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Speaker 1: adjust to things that change and lineups and matchups that change. Right,

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Speaker 1: And the Nets and the Clippers have both played without

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Speaker 1: game you kind of get an initial bump. It's almost like, um,

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Speaker 1: And that's really what happened. And now we kind of

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Speaker 1: think that James Harden did move better in game was

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Speaker 1: different look. But but but the the end story is like,

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Speaker 1: the team that's the healthiest has a tency to win. Well.

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Speaker 1: The only problem that's what happens. The only problem with

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Speaker 1: the first season where there have been eight All Stars

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Speaker 1: There have been more stars missing games as playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: of the Western Conference Finals. Again, there's a lot to

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Speaker 1: be determined there. But you know this, this Jazz team

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Speaker 1: had the Clippers, they had him choked out, okay after

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Speaker 1: play tonight. I have no faith in the Jazz, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, Doug. People have been killing me

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Speaker 1: for the last few weeks about my tie lou Takes.

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Speaker 1: All I have said is, man, we don't know if

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Speaker 1: Tyler's a good coach. He comes in, has Lebron and

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Speaker 1: when you've had two of the I don't know five

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Speaker 1: how can we accurately judge Tylu. He doesn't play Terrence Man.

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Speaker 1: The first two games of this series they lose. Oh wait,

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Speaker 1: maybe I should play Terrence Man. Oh yeah, Terrence Man's

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Speaker 1: And I know a guy on the Clippers staff, Dante Jones.

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Speaker 1: Clippers have done good things. But Doug, every single time

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Speaker 1: You know, Utah's backcourt is just so injured. Rudy Gobert

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Speaker 1: is such a non factor in this series. I mean, Doug,

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Speaker 1: they identify wherever Rudy Gobert is, they're going right at him.

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Speaker 1: The stifled tower can keep him out of the lane,

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Speaker 1: but man, you put him in that pick and roll

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Speaker 1: and they're eating him alive. Well, yeah, it's all they've

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Speaker 1: They've decided to go They've decided to go small, right.

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Speaker 1: They even played Rondo and Patrick Beverly together. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you don't, if you have, if

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Speaker 1: you watched the playoffs and you don't think Tyler has

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Speaker 1: done an excellent job. I can't really help yet, but

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Speaker 1: you know, I know Luca was amazing in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I think lucas probably the best player in the league.

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Speaker 1: But he's also got Kawhi Paul George. Morris is better

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Speaker 1: but let's be realistic. Marcus Morris is better than that.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason Marcus Morris has bounced around the league. Bro,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Morris has forty nine points in the last two games. Yes,

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Speaker 1: why why is that? Well, he's a pretty decent player.

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Speaker 1: He got a lot of Why is that? Let's let's

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Speaker 1: go back to why is that? Nation? Jason McIntire Doug

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Speaker 1: Because they've decided to go small. So Marcus Morris matches

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Speaker 1: up with Rudy Gobert and Marcus Morris to stand outside

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Speaker 1: stretch out the defense, right Like it's it's one of those.

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Speaker 1: But this is a rocket science. Like they started Zooba

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Speaker 1: we've got to get him out of there. Like I.

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Speaker 1: By the way, they didn't get destroyed the first two games.

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Speaker 1: And Utah's a pretty pretty good team, and you gotta

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Speaker 1: kind of figure it out. You're also you have no

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Speaker 1: if you don't think that the the the easiest example

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Speaker 1: is constructed differently. Every team is constructed differently. Right, This

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Speaker 1: Clippers team, for example, is constructed around two stars. If

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Speaker 1: it was so easy, why why couldn't Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers,

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Speaker 1: we know historically, has been a terrible postseason coach. He's

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Speaker 1: the only coach in NBA history to blow three three

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Speaker 1: the Vegas odds, you know, I do a ton of

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Speaker 1: gambling stuff, Doug. The Clippers were the favorites last year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they failed. They now came into this season, the Lakers

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Speaker 1: were favored in the West. The Nets were overall favorites.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis goes out, It's like, okay, Clippers, the seas

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Speaker 1: have parted for you win the damn West. All they

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Speaker 1: do is fall behind in series. Doug. Okay, but they

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Speaker 1: fell behind. It like it's a seven serious. They don't

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Speaker 1: they don't go hey, oh, you're up too. Oh you

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Speaker 1: know what, let's just call it off, right, So it

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Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz and you're still beating the drum against Tyler,

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Speaker 1: Like what you're doing it not against I just actually

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Speaker 1: the major praise on people. I just say, it's too

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Speaker 1: early for me to know. If No, here's the here's

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Speaker 1: the issue. Here's the issue. Everything you say is result oriented, right,

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Speaker 1: results oriented. That that if the ball goes in, you're

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Speaker 1: a genius. If the ball doesn't go in, you're an idiot. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's that's basically your reaction, which is okay, that's the

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Speaker 1: that's the way in which you evaluate the validity of

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Speaker 1: your takes or the validity of players. Think it's totally fair,

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely fair. Okay. If the Clippers, you know, win

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Speaker 1: during times of adversity, and during times of adversity, Tyler

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Speaker 1: You're you're pointing out the what I You're actually reaffirming

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Speaker 1: That's sc h f f er um. Okay, So Alex,

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Speaker 1: obviously you come off game five where where Kevin Rant

422
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Speaker 1: was otherworldly and Steve Nashes hugging him and holding onto

423
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Speaker 1: him like Adam Silver should be. And now now now

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Speaker 1: get now game six? What was what was the energy

425
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Speaker 1: like around the nets before the game? I thought it

426
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Speaker 1: was It was decent, but not great. You know, twenty

427
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Speaker 1: Steve Nash was saying post game that he thought the

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Speaker 1: energy and rhythm was lacking throughout the game. You know,

429
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Speaker 1: you watched them warm up and James Harden looked a

430
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Speaker 1: lot better in warm ups than he did before Game five,

431
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Speaker 1: when he was obviously coming off that hamstring injury. And

432
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Art, they're going to have a better version

433
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Speaker 1: of him probably than they did in game five. I

434
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Speaker 1: don't think you could expect to Rant to have another

435
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: forty nine point triple double, but still, you know, to

436
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Speaker 1: give him the playoff version of himself. You know whatever

437
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: that is, averaging thirty five thirty four points of games,

438
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Speaker 1: and maybe they get another performance or a step up

439
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: performance by you know, Jeff Green twenty seven off the

440
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: bench in that Game five. They needed someone else to

441
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: have a game like that, and that just never really happened.

442
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: So they never really seem again to approve offensively, and

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Speaker 1: it seems like they were. They never led in the

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Speaker 1: game and they were just playing catch up the whole time. Yeah, Alex,

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Speaker 1: the way I look at it, Kevin Durant was phenomenal

446
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Speaker 1: in the final, you know, fifteen ish minutes of Game five,

447
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: but he attempted two free throws last night. I mean,

448
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: he looked ghassed, and I don't know where he's gonna

449
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Speaker 1: suddenly get the energy from. Alex. If I asked you pointedly,

450
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Speaker 1: who has been the better team in the last eight quarters,

451
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: forget about the game. You know, Kyrie left midway through.

452
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: The Nets were rattled. But if I say the Bucks

453
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: right now we're a better team in their favorite are

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Speaker 1: you surprised at that? Or do you still think the

455
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Speaker 1: Nets are the team to beat here? It's a good question.

456
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: You know, I could give you a reason for either one.

457
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: I mean the home team has won every game of

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Speaker 1: the series. So if people are going into tomorrow nights

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Speaker 1: thinking the Nets are the favorite, just based on that

460
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Speaker 1: and by holding home court, I don't blame you, but

461
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, I just look at the net supporting Cats,

462
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Speaker 1: I mean offensively and defensively. They really haven't gotten a

463
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Speaker 1: lot from those guys. And you know the Bucks. I mean,

464
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Speaker 1: they had eighty nine points combined from their three healthy

465
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Speaker 1: stars last night. You know, Janni's true holiday and Middleton,

466
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Speaker 1: who was the final one, was terrific. You know, the Nets,

467
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Speaker 1: it seems like a're getting what they can out of

468
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Speaker 1: their stars, but they're just not getting that guy to

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Speaker 1: fill the void the shooting that Kyrie last. So I

470
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Speaker 1: feel like, if you know you're gonna go well on

471
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Speaker 1: star power and health, I think the Bucks happen the

472
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Speaker 1: better team just because they've been getting the most out

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Speaker 1: of out of their stars and we've seen what Health

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Speaker 1: has done in the playoffs. I think Milwaukee has been

475
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Speaker 1: the better team. But I also think that Kevin Durant

476
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Speaker 1: is a tough guy to bet against in Game seven,

477
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Speaker 1: so I really feel like it's a toss up. But

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Speaker 1: I mean Milwaukee right now, just because the momentum um

479
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Speaker 1: did Here's here's the there's two X factors that we

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Speaker 1: have yet yet to mention. Let's first start with James

481
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Speaker 1: Harden right game five or like, what was he doing

482
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Speaker 1: out there? Right? Like, that's that's tough to as as

483
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Speaker 1: immobile as sometimes he can be defensively, Like, it was

484
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Speaker 1: just it was just bad. They clearly tried to pressure

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Speaker 1: him and stress him last night. There were some moments

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Speaker 1: where he looked a little bit more like James Harden.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible, Alex, that he's improving steadily and we

488
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Speaker 1: can see a better percentage of the real James Harden

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Speaker 1: in game seven? I agree with that completely. You know,

490
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Speaker 1: in game five, he didn't have any elevation in his

491
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Speaker 1: leg If you saw him shooting three, I mean some

492
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Speaker 1: of them were hitting off the front of the rim,

493
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Speaker 1: but clearly he just didn't have it in his legs

494
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Speaker 1: to get up the way he needed to to hit shot.

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Speaker 1: And he was doing that yesterday. I mean, he had

496
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Speaker 1: the sixteen points, he was hitting his three, three for

497
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Speaker 1: six from three. As you said, he looked he didn't

498
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Speaker 1: look like a guy that was an MVP candidate a

499
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Speaker 1: few months ago, but he looked closer to what we've

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Speaker 1: been accustomed to. So he made it seem like he's

501
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: slowly getting better each day and he's trending in the

502
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Speaker 1: right direction. But is he going to be in the

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Speaker 1: state that they need him to be for Game seven,

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Speaker 1: especially because they don't know who they can count on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the real question. Yeah yeah, but bus pluss Game

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Speaker 1: Seven's and James Harden haven't always gone together, like uh,

507
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Speaker 1: like hand and fist. Okay, what about Kyrie? Are we

508
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Speaker 1: sure he's not gonna play? I don't expect him to? Um,

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Speaker 1: you know you you looked at the replay of the

510
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Speaker 1: ankle injury. I mean it, he needed a minute to

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Speaker 1: get up and then it looked like he was like

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Speaker 1: his foot was the foot was flat with the four

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Speaker 1: with the way it was turned. I I'm not expecting

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Speaker 1: him to play in Game seven tomorrow. I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to be hardened and durance again, Alex, what

516
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Speaker 1: about the Olympian the sixteen million dollars a year man,

517
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Speaker 1: Joe Harris. He has been an abject failure in this series.

518
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Speaker 1: The last four games. He's shooting twenty five percent. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I saw him on a milk

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Speaker 1: cart and last night as I was making a late

521
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Speaker 1: night bowl of cereal, where the hell is Joe Harris.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question to me. You talked about X factors.

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Speaker 1: To me, he is the biggest X factor. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn is thirteen and one in games when he scores

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Speaker 1: twenty or more points and at one loss. Is that

526
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Speaker 1: crazy game in Washington they had in January where Russell

527
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Speaker 1: West Brooklyn crazy in the final few minutes and they

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00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: stole that game from them. He to me, he's the

529
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Speaker 1: thermometer of the offense. When he's hitting threes, it opens

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Speaker 1: up everything else for them. And you know, he's gotten

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Speaker 1: good looks and they just haven't gone in. I mean

532
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Speaker 1: some of the three is the shot that's been halfway down.

533
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Speaker 1: They for himed out. But as you said, I mean

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Speaker 1: they need him to play well. And you know, I

535
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Speaker 1: feel like some of the biggest momentum swings in the

536
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Speaker 1: game last night where you know, first half, he misses

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Speaker 1: the three. They this is about a minute and a

538
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Speaker 1: half less in the first half, the Nets are down five,

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Speaker 1: he misses a good look from three. Chris Middleton comes

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Speaker 1: down and hits the three that went from a five

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Speaker 1: point game in eight game and then obviously they get

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Speaker 1: it back to five with about eight nine minutes left

543
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Speaker 1: in the fourth and Joe Harris fouls Chris Middleton on

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Speaker 1: a three and he hits all three, and again they

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Speaker 1: had a chance to make it. They had a chance

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Speaker 1: to cut it again into a one possession game, and

547
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: they never got closer again. So he's definitely been on

548
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: kind of tough series, as you said, and they need

549
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Speaker 1: everything they can get out of him in Game seven

550
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Speaker 1: because he's the guy I thought would step up the

551
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: scoring one when Kyrie goent down, that just has it come. Yeah,

552
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: it is fascinating if they lose in a Game seven.

553
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Speaker 1: What's the overall takeaway from this first season of the

554
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Speaker 1: Big Three being together. I definitely think it's disappointing as

555
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: a whole because I think people forget sometimes. You know,

556
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: the next contention window was a little bit different than

557
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: other teams because they signed Kevin durand Kyrie Irving last

558
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: season knowing that it was a bit of a wash

559
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: because Kevin Durand was rehabbing the Achilles injury, and now

560
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: you're in year one, you don't get past the second round.

561
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Speaker 1: I think that it's it's still impressive what they were

562
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: able to do when you think about all the injuries

563
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: and the big picture. I mean, they nearly forty different

564
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: starting lineups in the regular season, they knew like thirty

565
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: different players suit up for them, and they were still

566
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Speaker 1: able to give a Milwaukee a heck of a series.

567
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Speaker 1: But when it's a championship or bus type season and

568
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Speaker 1: you don't even make the conference finals, I think I

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Speaker 1: think you have to kind of look at in a

570
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Speaker 1: disappointing way, right, Yeah, But I mean, but if you

571
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Speaker 1: don't have two of your health three best players healthy, Like,

572
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Speaker 1: what's the reality of it is? There's just limitations to

573
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Speaker 1: what you can what you wait, you can get Like

574
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Speaker 1: they are built around these three players and you have

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Speaker 1: one and a half of them right now, you know,

576
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: like and look that that's that's that's the danger of it, right,

577
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: that's the danger of constructing a team that way. But

578
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: this is the reality. If healthy, they're still playing. If not,

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Speaker 1: they probably go home. No, I agree completely, And as

580
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Speaker 1: you it's been a weird year for eight reason in

581
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Speaker 1: the NBA. Again, it's not like you know, Kyrie was

582
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Speaker 1: the most durable store in the regular season. He played

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Speaker 1: more than than Hardener duranted in just terms of total

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Speaker 1: games and as you said, it's bad luck. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting count you with their off season looks

586
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: like because a lot of these guys are on one

587
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Speaker 1: year deals, you know, the Jeff Green and Blake Griffin

588
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: type guys. Just how to try to keep this core

589
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Speaker 1: together around these three is going to be interesting going

590
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Speaker 1: in the next season. Alex great stuff man. Look forward

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Speaker 1: to reading your next piece in The Athletic. Follow him

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Alex Underscore Shiffer. Alex, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: and I want to get to the news of the

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Speaker 1: moment in a second. With Kemba Walker being traded to

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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City Thunder. If there's a trade involving draft

603
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: picks and a star trying to salary dump. You can

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00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: almost always guess it's the Oklahoma Sea Thunder right now.

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: But but like I do, I think it's important for

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Speaker 1: people to understand that there's a construct to a team.

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00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: Right So Dante de Vincenzo goes down, for example, for

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00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks, I think that threw them for a loop.

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Speaker 1: It hurts their ability to their smaller lineup isn't nearly

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Speaker 1: as strong very Verstle defenders super athletic and he had

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Speaker 1: his best season as a pro this year. But the

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00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: way that team is built is put it in Jannis's

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Speaker 1: hands and then occasionally he put it in Drew Holiday

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Speaker 1: or Middleton's hands. But there's like a pecking order and

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Speaker 1: they're built around Jannis. Every team is different. Whereas you

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Speaker 1: look at now how the nets are built, they're built

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Speaker 1: around having three players and the rest are just fill

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Speaker 1: in guys who used to be something and now they're

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Speaker 1: just trying to find a secondary or even tertiary role.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is one of the things with with

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Speaker 1: Lebronze teams. When Lebron up until this year and maybe

622
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Speaker 1: last year, they've been built a let's build a team

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Speaker 1: around Lebron James. So when he's not in, obviously it's

624
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: a completely different team. When he's not in, they struggled

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Speaker 1: to learn how to play without him, and then when

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00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: he returns, struggle to learn how to play with him.

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Speaker 1: Every team is different, and when you when you have

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Speaker 1: injuries that strike at the construct of the normal team,

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Speaker 1: that's when you really fail to function long term. And

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Speaker 1: that's what's happened with the Nets. You lose two stars

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Speaker 1: or you're playing with a injured James Harden. Without Kyrie Irving, boy,

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Speaker 1: it is it is really hard to compete at this level.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Jason. Yeah, No, I mean I totally disagree

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Speaker 1: with everything, but I was just looking. How do you

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Speaker 1: disagree with it? No, I mean I disagree with one thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you bashed James Harden. You got a little dig earlier.

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Speaker 1: James Harden never shows up in game seven, Doug. I'm

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Speaker 1: a good listener. Okay, I heard that, and I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's weird. He's hurts. Let me go look

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Speaker 1: quickly at Kyrie Irving's playoff history. Okay, are you ready

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Speaker 1: for this? I just dug this up. This year hurt

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Speaker 1: last year, hurt. Nets missed the playoffs twenty nineteen, they

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Speaker 1: lost to Milwaukee. Twenty eighteen, he was hurt, and remember

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Speaker 1: he missed Game seven Celtics versus the Calves. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: even on the bench for Game seven in Boston. Year

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Speaker 1: before that lost to Golden State's surgery. They did win.

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Speaker 1: And in twenty fifteen, the first year they got Lebron back,

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Speaker 1: he got hurt in Game one of the finals. If

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Speaker 1: memory serves by adding it up by elementary math one two,

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Speaker 1: this is the third time he's been injured in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs in the last seven years. And he's gonna miss

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Speaker 1: pivotal games at the end of a series. If we're

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Speaker 1: gonna ding Chris Paul, he's always hurting the playoffs. If

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Speaker 1: we're gonna ding James Harden, he never shows up. When

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Speaker 1: are we gonna hold Kyrie Irving to the same standards? Huh?

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Speaker 1: He sprained his ankle, Jason, He's hurt every year, Doug,

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Speaker 1: he sprained his ankle when he missed time. Like, look,

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to say that that some of the

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Speaker 1: comments that he's made, and there have been some times

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Speaker 1: in which you don't know if he loves hoop as

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Speaker 1: much as his talent tells you should love hoop like

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Speaker 1: w okay. But if you want to tell me like

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Speaker 1: a guy is like okay. So when he missed Game

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Speaker 1: seven with the Celtics, and he missed the end of

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Speaker 1: that Celtics run, it was because his kneecap split in two.

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Speaker 1: When he was with the Calves in Game one of

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. They kept it together with wire mesh

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Speaker 1: right and some and drilled three screws into his knee.

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Speaker 1: Then you fast forward to when he's with the Celtics

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Speaker 1: and the wire mesh was bothering him. They took it out,

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Speaker 1: and it was a good thing that they went in

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Speaker 1: because the screws were infected, so they had to clean

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Speaker 1: out the knee and they didn't know if that bone

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Speaker 1: would fully heal properly, so they held him out like

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Speaker 1: if you want to tell me that that's some sort

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Speaker 1: of in any way comparison to James Harden's abject failures

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Speaker 1: in big games, going back to when he's in Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: City as a young player and he's awful in the finals,

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Speaker 1: going to Houston time and again they not only got beat,

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Speaker 1: they got and beat at home. But he doesn't show up.

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Speaker 1: If you want to if you want to compare that

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Speaker 1: to a guy spraining his ankle on national TV, which

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Speaker 1: we all saw it, that's just bad luck, that's just sports, okay,

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Speaker 1: But enjoy an island. I don't really understand. I don't

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Speaker 1: really understand the island that you want to. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we bashed hard and excessively. This was the number

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Speaker 1: one guy in Houston, and when you fail and you're

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Speaker 1: the number one guy, it all falls on your shoulders.

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Speaker 1: But look around at those Houston rosters. Were they ever

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00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: favored Doug? Did they ever totally collapse when they should

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Speaker 1: have won. It's not like he's choking like Doc Rivers.

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Speaker 1: He's leading a team full of decent players and they

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Speaker 1: came up short against the Mighty Warriors multiple times. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's the end of the world. I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you again, why has Kyrie three times in

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Speaker 1: the last seven years ended his season with injury? Why

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Speaker 1: is he always hurt? Is he fragile as he made

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Speaker 1: a glass? I'm not bashing the guy. I like Kyrie.

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Speaker 1: You just said he's he fragile as he made a glass.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are fact, no disrespect, no disrespect, But

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Speaker 1: let me say something disrespects are facts. What's factual? Kyrie

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Speaker 1: Ervik is always hurting the playoffs. Fact he rolled his

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Speaker 1: He rolled his ankle, Okay, always you think he can

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Speaker 1: control these things. You think you control if you roll

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Speaker 1: your ankle. He's always hurt in the playoffs. That is

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Speaker 1: a factual statement. I mean, you could do with that

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Speaker 1: what you want. But he's always hurt. He's when he's had,

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Speaker 1: he's had like he's that injury. He's going back to

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Speaker 1: Duke right, he had the big toe, he's had, He's

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Speaker 1: had an amazing litany of injuries and everybody, you and everybody.

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Speaker 1: You combine that with the fact that he's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a bizarre personality, but you have to accept.

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Speaker 1: You have to accept those things going in because he's

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00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: a marvelous talent. And where where the nets have gotten

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00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: kind of figured it out is they took the ball

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Speaker 1: out of his hands and they had James Harden beat

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Speaker 1: the point guard and it was it was working. The

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00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: problem is that he'sprained his ankle. The problem is that

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Speaker 1: James Hardens has a bad, bad hamstring. Heck, the guy

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Speaker 1: coming off the Achilles tendant tear has been the most

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Speaker 1: durable here in the playoffs for him, right, So these

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Speaker 1: things do happen, all right, We'll turn to football up

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Speaker 1: coming next. An unnamed member of another front office had

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Speaker 1: some not so nice things to say about Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: why he is absolutely right and wrong at the same time.

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Speaker 1: With Jason McIntyre, I'm Doug Gotland. That's next and The

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Speaker 1: weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 1: Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Jason McIntyre. I'm Doug

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Speaker 1: Gottlieb in for Dan the dan Ads. Happy Meat Friday

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Speaker 1: to you. We also have continuing conference playoff games in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. But just just just a little, just to

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00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: wet your appetite, big big trade news in the NBA,

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00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the top of the hour. Kemba Walker

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Speaker 1: dealt from the Celtics. What's it mean? Um? All right, John,

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Speaker 1: quick question on that. Um, have you ever been to Siberia?

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00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: I have? We got to ask Kemba Walker what it's

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Speaker 1: like in Okay? See, Wow, why do you say that?

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00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: Because you don't think they're gonna be good? What do

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00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: you do? I think? Come on, they've been taking for years, bro,

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00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: So I mean, okay, see they're actually pretty good. They're

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00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: actually pretty good two years. I think they have more

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00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: first round picks in the next five years than they'll

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00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: have wins. No, it's it's it's it's crazy. But this

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Speaker 1: is this is all part and parcel to the biggest problem.

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00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: The NBA has a major problem on their hands. They

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00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: know it and it yesterday was Zion wins. It's not fixable. No, okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that top of the hour Um. An

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00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: unnamed genna manager from another club called Aaron Rodgers selfish, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: what what is What is your reaction, Jason Um, I'm

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00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: not surprised. You know how many of these athletes at

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Speaker 1: the top of their game are considered selfish. Kobe Bryant,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Lebron Jay, all the greats. Tom Brady's considered selfish. Woman.

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Speaker 1: To come on, they draft Jimmy Gabaroppolo, He's ticked off.

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Speaker 1: He goes to Winds the MVP and demands Garoppolo get traded, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, superstars, I think you're misusing selfish.

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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant was selfish because Kobe Bryant was so a

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Speaker 1: selfish basketball player, he just was. I mean, yeah, Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady did some unselfish things. I'll take less money because

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Speaker 1: my bikini model whites worth half a billion dollars. That's unselfish.

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Speaker 1: But as a player, a lot of these guys are selfish.

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Speaker 1: They know what's best. They're the greats all time. Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan extremely selfish. There's nothing wrong with Aaron Rodgers being selfish. Um. Well,

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00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: now now now that now that portion of it, I

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Speaker 1: do actually agree with, right, Like I it's like the honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit like the uh uh, it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit like the flag controversy to be to be

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Speaker 1: totally honest, because I don't know the flag controversy. You know,

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Speaker 1: the kneeling before the flag. You know, when people say

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Speaker 1: it's disrespectful, it is disrespectful. And anyone who does it

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Speaker 1: does it to bring attention to something. Right, it's intentionally disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: And what Aaron Rodgers doing is intentionally selfish. And he

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Speaker 1: has a championship caliber team and in order for he

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Speaker 1: believes to get his point across, or maybe to get traded,

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Speaker 1: or maybe to get out of town, or maybe to

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Speaker 1: get a new contract, he's doing something which is inherently selfish.

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Speaker 1: The question is is he a selfish guy? Three hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty five days a year. Is he a selfish person?

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Speaker 1: Where this is only the tip of the iceberg for

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Speaker 1: all of the Aaron stuff that's different. This is from

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Speaker 1: a Michael Lombardo fanside this quoted at XGM x NFLGM

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Speaker 1: saying the guy's selfish teammates don't like it, coaches don't

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Speaker 1: like him. It's all about Aaron. They deal with him

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Speaker 1: because he's a superstar. He helps guys make money, put

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Speaker 1: food on their table for their kids, and people respect

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Speaker 1: him for that. Right. It's the old He's respected, but

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Speaker 1: he's not really liked. Right, He's respected but not really liked,

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Speaker 1: which which is is interesting and it's an interesting way

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Speaker 1: to go about life, and it may tell us a

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00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: little bit more about why Green Bay has not succeeded more. Right,

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00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: because because the key to being a quarterback is those

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Speaker 1: guys have to want to kill for you, right, they

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Speaker 1: just do they want to. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's the it's always been the case in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I think they like him. I mean I do. I

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00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: think they love him. I don't know, but I do

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Speaker 1: think what he's doing is intentionally selfish. I just don't

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Speaker 1: know what positive outcome he thinks is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Real quick story, A guy was drafted a tight end

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Speaker 1: to the packers. He starts showing up, you know, for

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00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: practice in mini camp and all that stuff. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: does not acknowledge him in the whole way they walk

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Speaker 1: past each other, not even a head nod. Nothing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's just Aaron Rodgers. He's a different dude. This tight

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00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: end realized, Oh man, he doesn't like me. But that

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00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: wasn't it. Aaron Rodgers is just a different guy, kind

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00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: of guy, his personalities prickly. It doesn't appeal to everyone.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's the end of the world. He's

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Speaker 1: still a top five quarterback on the planet. All Right,

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Speaker 1: Jason's gonna get into Doc Rivers. I'm going to talk

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Speaker 1: about Campbell Walker. We'll get you ready for more hoop tonight.

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Speaker 1: That's something coming next to Jason mctore, I'm Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 1: Dis is a Dan Patrick Show.