1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: It's brook and Jeffrey in the morning, and this segment 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: is just like an Indiana Jones movie. Yeah, but I 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: like it. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: There's gonna be boulders rolling out. 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: For us, obviously, Doctor Jones afraid of snakes, but not 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: afraid of seeking out the truth. Meanwhile, Brooks one of 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: his horny college students, just trying to get what an 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: easy Ah, don't don't. Don't look like it. That's not true. 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to be that. 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 3: I want to be like Croft tomb Raiders something. I 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: know it's a different series. Come on, that's a hot 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: outfit the movie. 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: The metaphors to the expert over here, Doctor Jones suck. Meanwhile, Okay, 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: now I'm joking now because this is a little bit 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: more of a serious segment that we do. We help 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: if we help one of our listeners get some much 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: needed answers about a weird situation from their past, and 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: a woman named rox San reached out asking for help. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: So Rock Sand welcome to the off of Doctor Jones. 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: Oh well, thanks for having me. 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: Are we going to be exploring your tomb WHOA? 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: Okay, I just meant like where I apologize for my 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: co host over there, but you know how the closure 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: call works. First, we want to hear a little bit 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: about you, though, So tell us a little bit about yourself. 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 4: Well, I'm thirty one and I actually listen every day 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 4: on Spotify. I just you guys are freaking amazing. 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, it's so nice. 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: Go on. 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: I actually never thought I would email you for help though, 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: So I don't know, it's kind of embarrassing, but I 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: need your help. 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: Okay. And who exactly are we helping you with? 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 4: His name is Ian and he is my ex boyfriend. 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: As soon as he said Ian, I knew it. 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, just the just the way she said it, you know, 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: a little bit of longing, a little bit of disgust. 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: It tell us a little more about you and Ian. 39 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: So basically we are exes from a while back, about 40 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: six years ago. We first lived. 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: Oh you first met? 42 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and we were basically I would say a 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: month to month and a half in when I first 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, he could be the one. 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: Wow, it's such a big feeling. 46 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: Yeah it was. 47 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: It was. 48 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: Okay, So I went to his house because we were 49 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: supposed to go out that night. Okay, I ring the 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: buzzer and no one answers, and I'm like, Okay, maybe 51 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: he like went down to the grush, you know. I 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: wait a few minutes, I text him no answer, and 53 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 4: then someone ends up coming out, so I, you know, 54 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: kind of let myself in and I go up to 55 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 4: his apartment and I'm not even freaking kidding. His door 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: is wide open, his entire apartment empty. 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: What whoa? 58 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 4: Whoa? Like everything gone, kitchen stuff gone, pictures off the wall, gone, 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: TV gone, Like, how. 60 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: Are you feeling in that moment? 61 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm like freaked out. I feel like 62 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 4: I'm in the twilight zone basically because I'm like, wait 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: a minute, I am dating this guy, right. 64 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: What's a minute? 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 4: I imaginerek it weird? 66 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: So did you ever find out what happened with Ian? So? 67 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: I ended up the next day after work going over there, 68 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 4: and basically the manager said that he cut off basically 69 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: his lease early and just moved out. 70 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: WHOA, wow, expensive, what are you thinking? 71 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: Like? 72 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: Did you ask friends because like he was at the 73 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: party where all your friends were at the lake cabin? 74 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally. 75 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: So I reached out to basically, we have like three 76 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: or four mutual friends. None of them heard anything from 77 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: him either. And all of them texted and called and 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: got no response at all. 79 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: What about his job? Did he quit his job too? 80 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: Do you know he. 81 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: Worked from home for this like tech company? So I 82 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: actually you know. 83 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 84 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So you're looking around getting no answers, and 85 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: then apparently in your email that you sent us, you 86 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: said one of your friends from the lake cabin saw 87 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: him out one day and you found out that he's 88 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: working at a store in the same. 89 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 4: Exactly. 90 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: Wait whoa so wait this is like six years later. 91 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: You've just found him. 92 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: Six years later. My girlfriend texts me a picture and 93 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: it's like basically she's like in the aisle of this 94 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: store and it's like, you know, the backs of people's heads, 95 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: and then you see this guy. He goes, isn't this him? 96 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 4: And then I'm like, without a doubt, it's ian. 97 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: How did you feel when you're looking at that photo? 98 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 4: Oh my god? First of all, like furious, like did 99 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 4: he move out of his apartment and then move two 100 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: blocks down the road and then like just leave our 101 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: entire social circle? Or no, did he leave? Did something happen? 102 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: And now he's back? But mother, did he is back? 103 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: And like didn't even reach out to me like that 104 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense. 105 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: I mean, have you ever thought that, Like, you know, 106 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: you were only a month and a half into the relationship. 107 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: Maybe he and you sounded super into it. Maybe he 108 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: just wasn't, so he moved. I don't know. I know 109 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 2: other people break up. My mom used to move cities 110 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: to get away for men. 111 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's like sounds nuts, but like 112 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: sometimes it's just really hard for people. 113 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: You know, I would think, Okay, So when I look back, 114 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 4: especially now, so far removed, very clear headed, I did 115 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: not see a single red flag because anything that we 116 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 4: did together he was like totally invested in, just. 117 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: Like I was. So that was six years ago, and 118 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: now he suddenly popped back up on the radar in 119 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: your city, and you still don't have any answers, which 120 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: is why you reached out to us. And you know 121 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: how this works, Rock Sande. We don't like to pry, 122 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: but but our producer, producer Boyd, he's called Ian more 123 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: than once apparently got hung up on a few times. 124 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, at the store, stop. 125 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: Asking dumb questions. Yes, But finally he asked if we 126 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: could email Ian a few questions from you, and then 127 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: we'd leave him alone after that, and Ian agreed email them, 128 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: and so Ian did send his answers back. Now, are 129 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: you still curious to hear or have you gotten over 130 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: it in the last six minutes. 131 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: I'm literally sweaty, and I'm like all anxious right now, 132 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: like I'm kind of freaking out. But yes, of course 133 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 4: they want to hear hear, So. 134 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: We'll hear what your ex boyfriend from six years ago 135 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: who suddenly vanished has to say. Now when we do 136 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: your closure call next. 137 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: All right, you're in the middle of a closure call, 138 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: but we're getting an update on the situation right after 139 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: you hear part two. 140 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: I wish we could mean this, you know, like that 141 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: awkward moment when your boyfriend suddenly disappears from your life 142 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: and then reappears six years later. So we call a 143 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: radio show to get answers. 144 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: Why. Yeah, it's a little bit too much text. 145 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: But is it just like a baby with one eyebrow up, 146 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: like yeah, thinking about it? 147 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: Either that or just a picture of his empty apartment. 148 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: That could work too, because that's what we're doing today 149 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: for our closure call with. 150 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 2: Rock sand Oh my god. 151 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Six years ago, she was seeing a guy named Ian 152 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: for a little over a month when, without warning, he 153 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: moved out of his apartment and cut off all communication 154 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: with Roxanne and everybody in their social circle. Oh crazy, 155 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: But now he's popped up again in her area and 156 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: she's asked us for help. And Roxanne has already worked 157 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: with our producer to send four questions to her ex 158 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: to try and figure out what happened all those years ago. 159 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: Do you think that he could say anything that you 160 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: would forgive him for this? 161 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: Honestly, I just I just don't know. I just want 162 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: to hear the answer. 163 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, No matter what though, we are here for you. 164 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: If it's good, if it's bad, We're always gonna help. Haggarbacks, yes, 165 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: So here we go. The first question that we sent 166 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: was I've always wondered what happened six years ago when 167 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: you suddenly disappeared. I haven't been able to let it go. 168 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: Please tell me something. So Ian responded to that. Ian said, 169 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: are you ready? Roxanne? 170 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 4: Deep breath girl, Yeah, I'm ready, he said. 171 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: At the time, it was too painful to tell you 172 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: what was going on, because I'd fallen for you and 173 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: was dream of our future together. But a few months 174 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: before we met I'd broken it off with my ex. 175 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: She still wanted me back, but my heart was with you. Then, 176 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: around six weeks into our relationship, I got news that 177 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: completely changed my life. My ex called and told me 178 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: that she was six months pregnant with my baby. Oh 179 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: my god, he says. I guess he could have worked out, 180 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: what he says, even though it completely broke my heart, 181 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: I felt like the right thing to do was drop 182 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: everything and try to make myself available for the sake 183 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: of my kid. I'm so sorry. I probably didn't handle 184 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: it right, but I was scared and didn't know what 185 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: to do. 186 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: Oh man, Oh, I don't even know what to say 187 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 4: right now. 188 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: I just feel like he didn't even give you a chance, 189 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: Like it doesn't feel like he would have had to 190 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: choose between the two worlds, Like why couldn't he have 191 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: been a good father and stayed with you. 192 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it is a tough decision when you when 193 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: you have that moment in your life and it sprung 194 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: upon you and you don't know what to do. What's 195 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: the right answer to her? 196 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: If he would have just talked to her, maybe he 197 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: wouldn't have had to make a decision like that, you know, 198 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: like yeah. 199 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: Rox, And how would you have felt if he had 200 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: came to you with that in that moment? 201 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: I feel like if he came to me and said, 202 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 4: my heart is with you, but I feel like I 203 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: need to do this to be a good person and 204 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: a good father. I feel like, no matter what he 205 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: ended up doing, I would have had so much respect 206 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: for him because he was honest. Yeah, it seems so 207 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: weird that he just like up and left. I mean, 208 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: I believe, I believe him, but I'm still like my 209 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: jaw's like on the floor. 210 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: I h we found out a lot of information just 211 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: on question one, but we have a bunch more here. 212 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: That was crazy. I'm like emotional for the first So 213 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: the second one we sent was why did you feel 214 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: the need to leave without telling me anything? 215 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: Oh? 216 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so he answered, I wanted to tell you 217 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: more than anything, but I was worried. I thought it 218 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: would make the decision harder to choose between you and 219 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: my child, and I was scared that I might pick you. 220 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: Oh my god, you guys, that's like, oh my god, 221 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna cry right. 222 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: No, It's okay. We're used to women crying on the show. 223 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: She's kind of frustrated with him, like he didn't trust 224 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 3: you enough to to. 225 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: That's what he's saying. He said, you didn't trust himself enough. 226 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Here's the thing. 227 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: If he would have went to her, she wouldn't have 228 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: given him that ultimatum. She wouldn't have said, you either 229 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: get to be the baby daddy or you get to 230 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: be with me. 231 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: You could get to be bold, right. 232 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: And remember this all happened just like a month into 233 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: their relationship, so it's hard to make decisions like this. 234 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: But let's go to the third question that we sent, 235 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: which was, so tell me about your life now, Okay, 236 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: do you still want to know about Ian's life now? Roxanne, Yeah, 237 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: I do. 238 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: Okay, are you okay? 239 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm okay. I just this is like, this is 240 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: a lot. Yeah, yeah, I want to hear. I really 241 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: want to hear. 242 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: Well. 243 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: He says, it was hard in the beginning, and then 244 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: it got easier, and now it's back to being difficult. 245 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: The reason why is I found out from a different 246 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: friend that the baby might not be mine biologically. Wait 247 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: a minute, did she why? 248 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: Just to keep him around? 249 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: He says, I'm waiting to hear back on DNA test 250 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: but at this point, I'm the father and it's a 251 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: commitment I need to see through, even though I may 252 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: have been tricked into doing it. 253 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 2: Oh but here's the thing. 254 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't sound like he's with the mom, right, 255 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like that to me. It just sounds 256 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 3: like he's the father of the child. I mean, there 257 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: could be an opening. I mean, I don't know. Maybe 258 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: I'm being nuts, but there still could be an opening 259 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: for you, guys, because obviously this was a huge, huge 260 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: thing that you maybe could have worked through, maybe. 261 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: Still could work through. 262 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: And that leads us to the next question, question four, 263 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: which was do you still have any feelings for Roxanne? 264 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: Do you think about it? Can we play another song? 265 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if sit down, Jose sit down, hearing me. 266 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: Up saying are you ready? 267 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: I don't know anymore. I don't know anything. 268 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: You right, Roxann, this is going to be good. 269 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: This is the closure that you need, you know, and 270 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 3: he's still a good versus. 271 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. So remember we said, do you still have any 272 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: feelings for rock Sane? He said, rock Sane, Rock san Party. 273 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's just this is a little bit tense 274 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: for me. But here's what he. 275 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: And dance. 276 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: We did dance right there, he said, I'll always have 277 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: love for ro Sane. I do think about her sometimes 278 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: and what could have happened between us of things played 279 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: out differently other than my kid being born, those two 280 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: months with her were still the most special times of 281 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: my life and I'll never forget that. 282 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 4: Girl. 283 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: You gotta go hunt him down at this store and 284 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: make out with us. 285 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: Don't hunt him, just go talk to him. The volunt 286 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: him say after that, no hunting allowed. But Roxane, you 287 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: did get some answers there, and I'm you know, obviously 288 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: the child thing has to be a huge shocker to you. 289 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: But closure, to me, it sounds like the door is 290 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: still a little bit open. 291 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: Oh god, my mind is just reeling. Yes, there's because 292 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: at least now I know why, but I don't. I 293 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: don't feel like his reasoning makes me feel any better. 294 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 4: And now to find out he was potentially scammed into 295 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: leaving makes me feel like, are you sorry? 296 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: That's okay, that's okay. It's a lot of big, strong feelings. 297 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, what you do have closure on is 298 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: at least you know you were on the same page 299 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: for those two months. You were both experiencing crazy love emotions. 300 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: He felt the same way. At least it wasn't liked. 301 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: And and you don't know if you guys still have 302 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: it or not until you go hunt him down. 303 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: We're running short on time here, Rock Sande, but you 304 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: have to promise us that you're going to stay in 305 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: touch and keep us updated on what happens. Yeah, are texting, 306 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: They are crying too. 307 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: I definitely will. I mean, I still listen to you. 308 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 4: I will continue to listen to you every day. This 309 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 4: is so freaking weird though. 310 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was your closure call. Wow, it's 311 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: Brooke and Jeffery in the morning. 312 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning. 313 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: We did that closure call with Roxanne a few months back, 314 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: and today we're getting an update. 315 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 316 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: I have never been more excited for an update on 317 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: this show or nervous. 318 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm nervous, jeff So if you just heard it for 319 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: the first time today, you're in luck. And if you've 320 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: been waiting, we finally have some answers here because she's 321 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: back on the phone. Roxanne, how are you doing. 322 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: I'm super nervous. I'm not gonna lie like Yeah, I've 323 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: been thinking about it. Since we first talked like a lot. 324 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 325 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: Wait, probably because Roxanne knows that we have the update 326 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: for her and for all of our listeners, because we've 327 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: been the ones who've been in touch with her long 328 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: lost ex boyfriend Ian. 329 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: Wait, you haven't talked to Ian. We've been talking. Okay, 330 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: this isn't where I thought this. 331 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: Was going to go. The big question that came out 332 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: of the call was that he said he had doubts 333 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: whether or not he was the father of the kid 334 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: with his other lady. 335 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is our Mari Povich moment. 336 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: He was way waiting those results, and we asked him. 337 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: We sent him an email recently about that, and Ian responded, so, oh. 338 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: My god, Oh my god. 339 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: All right, Roxanne take his deep breath. So Ian wrote back, 340 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: and he says, turns out I am the biological father 341 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: of my child. 342 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: For him, for you know, sticking around and having closure 343 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: on that. 344 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: He says, the news made me unbelievably happy. But at 345 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: the same time, I know this means I need to 346 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: close the chapter with Roxanne permanently so I can focus 347 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: on raising my family. Please tell her I wish her 348 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: nothing but the best. 349 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: A door on you that sucks, I mean, but at 350 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: least it's for a good reason. 351 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: Roxanne, how do you feel? 352 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. It just goes to show us 353 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: all like my feelings about him were ruin. He stand 354 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 4: up guy. 355 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: For sure. 356 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: I'm happy deep down of course that he's like, you know, 357 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: stepping up to his responsibility. But I honestly like had 358 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: my hope set on like the other thing where it like, 359 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: wasn't his kid and maybe he could. 360 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but good for the kid. The kid's 361 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: got a great dad. That's awesome. 362 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: So rox On, how are we going to break this 363 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: family up? 364 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: So no, no, I don't want to be a homework. 365 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: Now you go find yourself a cute baby daddy. You 366 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: got this, yes, and. 367 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: Plain that you have a six year old child with him. Yeah, 368 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe not the news that we were hoping for, 369 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: but it is good to get some closure. And if 370 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: you need to get some closure in your life, you 371 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: can always email the show or contact us on our 372 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: socials at Brook and Jeffrey for a future closure call. 373 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: It's Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning, Brook and Jeffrey 374 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: in the Morning.