WEBVTT - It Could Happen Here Weekly 126

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<v Speaker 1>Also media. Hey everybody, Robert Evans here, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to let you know this is a compilation episode. So

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<v Speaker 1>every episode of the week that just happened is here

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<v Speaker 1>If you've been listening to the episodes every day this week,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be nothing new here for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can make your own decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to it could happen here. The show about how

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<v Speaker 2>a small group of people are trying to keep making

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<v Speaker 2>bad things happen, and we're going to tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>they are. I'm Garrison Davis and joined with me is

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<v Speaker 2>doctor James Stout. Hello, doctor, Hi Garrison. Thank thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for having me put some respect on my name.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>So today we're going to be talking about something called

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<v Speaker 2>Agenda forty seven, and actually we're going to be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this this whole week. We've gotten a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>quests to talk about the Heritage Foundations Project twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a kind of an a roadmap for how

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<v Speaker 2>a Republican president could to change the country if they

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<v Speaker 2>get elected next year. And although this proposal is scary

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<v Speaker 2>and quite big. It's a massive, massive book.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump certainly listens to these types of guys, but he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't always like really like them.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he does what the fuck he wants. And again,

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<v Speaker 3>no one controlling Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>He kind of does whatever he wants, right, Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there certainly are other people like in Congress,

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<v Speaker 2>including the Speaker, who are definitely pushing this project twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five. And I think we'll probably talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>on the show at some other point. But Trump actually

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<v Speaker 2>has his own plans for if he's gonna be elected

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<v Speaker 2>president again, and we're gonna be talking about that, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is called Agenda forty seven, which I believe is

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<v Speaker 2>a subtle reference to the forty seventh president, which will

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<v Speaker 2>be him if he gets elected.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well so the forty fifth president. So yeah, sell

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<v Speaker 3>more much that way.

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<v Speaker 2>So the next the next, the next few episodes, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be diving into Trump's plans for if he becomes

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<v Speaker 2>the forty seventh president of the United States, called Agenda

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven. He has all of these listed on his website,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of my favorite parts is that to accompany

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<v Speaker 2>each one of these, like policy proposals. He has a

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<v Speaker 2>video of him like reading out something on a like

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<v Speaker 2>a teleprompter, and he very often will go off script,

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<v Speaker 2>just completely and just start talking, which which they include

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<v Speaker 2>the entire transcript for underneath each video, which is just

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating to read, totally divorced of like how he talks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just amazing. Also, all of the videos are embedded

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<v Speaker 2>on his website via Rumble, which is just amazing, amazing

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<v Speaker 2>stuff happening.

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<v Speaker 3>It's perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's kind of the the overview of what

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be doing this next week and why and

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why I have James here. James you you

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<v Speaker 2>you work in education, right?

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<v Speaker 3>I do? I do some educating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you have you have opinions on it?

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<v Speaker 3>I would assume yeah, strong ones as a doctor, Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a doctor of mond European history. Just to be clear

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<v Speaker 3>before anyone, yes, pictures of their illnesses, please don't.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna be talking about Trump's plan for education,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the end we can see if it gets

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<v Speaker 2>the James Stout approval. As someone who works in education.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I mean, I'm upen minded. Let's see what

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<v Speaker 3>he's got.

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<v Speaker 2>So Trump, now the problem with us doing these episodes

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<v Speaker 2>is that all of these are like videos right for

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<v Speaker 2>his policy proposals. And I don't want to subject to you,

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<v Speaker 2>the listener, to just videos of Trump talking. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>you don't need to hear that. But there's a part

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<v Speaker 2>of me, just deep down, a shameful part of me

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<v Speaker 2>that when I'm reading these quotes, I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>like slip into like a like a bad transgender Trump impression,

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<v Speaker 2>which I've tried to suppress. I've tried to suppress the surge,

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<v Speaker 2>but every once in a while, it just it just

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<v Speaker 2>sneaks out. So as I'm going through these quotes, I

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<v Speaker 2>can not promise that certain things might start happening. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's just a part of the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been possessed by the spirit of Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God. So on this note, Trump opens his education

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<v Speaker 2>proposal with this line quote, our public schools have been

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<v Speaker 2>taken over by the radical left maniacs, which really sets

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<v Speaker 2>the tone for the rest of what we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about today.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to highlight that I've been trying for

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<v Speaker 3>more than a decade, but obviously it's about people have

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<v Speaker 3>been more successful than me in that regard.

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<v Speaker 2>So over these next like twenty five minutes, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>try to explain what he calls his quote plan to

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<v Speaker 2>save American education and give power back to American parents

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<v Speaker 2>and the American parents line is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>reoccurring trend here. So in kind of a broad overview,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump believes that regular public schools, as well as colleges

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<v Speaker 2>and universities are just so far gone to not only

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<v Speaker 2>require like massive, massive regressive changes, but also frankly whole

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<v Speaker 2>new alternatives are needed, which leads us to our first

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<v Speaker 2>policy proposal. So Trump says that Americans are horrified that

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<v Speaker 2>quote once respected universities express support for the savages and

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<v Speaker 2>jihattists who attacked Israel unquote. So that's obviously not great there.

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<v Speaker 2>It is savages, very very quick, just immediate, immediately getting

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of stuff. Despite spending more money on higher

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<v Speaker 2>education than any other country, schools are quote turning our

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<v Speaker 2>students into communists and terrorists and sympathizers of many, many

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<v Speaker 2>different dimensions.

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<v Speaker 4>What does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 2>They're sympathizing with the alternate dimensions, you know, the the

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<v Speaker 2>near universe version. They're gaining too much sympathy as well,

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<v Speaker 2>as turning into communists and terrorists.

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<v Speaker 3>To be fair, he is right that like one of

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<v Speaker 3>the areas where you will find like the the few

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<v Speaker 3>whole noct Twitter is the other area of unreconstructed Marxist Leninists.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the Academy that it's there, and on x

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<v Speaker 3>dot com formerly known as Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>So to combat this communist and savage and hottest incursion

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<v Speaker 2>into universities, Trump is proposing something quote unquote dramatically different.

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<v Speaker 2>His plan is to seize quote billions and billions unquote

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars through taxes, finds in lawsuits against quote excessively

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<v Speaker 2>large private university endowments unquote, and use that money to

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<v Speaker 2>quote endow a new institution called the American Academy unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>That's already The American Academy is already, But is he

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<v Speaker 3>spending it with an E or it's why?

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, it's the why.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So it's a place not like the institution.

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<v Speaker 2>So the American Academy will seek to quote make a

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<v Speaker 2>truly world class education avaiable to every American free of charge,

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<v Speaker 2>without adding a single dime to the federal debt. And

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<v Speaker 2>then to do this, quote the institution will gather an

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<v Speaker 2>entire universe of the highest quality educational content unquote. And

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<v Speaker 2>I love the phrase educational content.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, this is this sounds like the short prayer

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<v Speaker 3>you videos that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what do you like? You're starting to You're starting

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<v Speaker 2>to suspect certain things, right like, Yeah, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think the American Academy is going to be here? Based

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<v Speaker 2>on the limited information you have?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it doesn't seem like a credible university, does it.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems to look like if your world made thats education.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's what Barry Weiss is doing in Texas, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe she's going to be helming the American Academy. It

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like Jordan Peterston's Grift University.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a world class education after you gather an entire

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<v Speaker 2>universe of the highest quality educational content. So this content,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump claims, will quote cover the full spectrum of human

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge and skills and make that material available to every

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<v Speaker 2>American citizen online for free. Unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just a library where he's describing as a library,

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<v Speaker 3>we already have those.

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<v Speaker 2>Not quite the content. It's not just a library because quote,

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<v Speaker 2>the Academy will utilize the latest breakthrough in computing unquote,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as study groups, mentors, and industry partners to

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<v Speaker 2>provide a truly quote top tier education option for the people.

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<v Speaker 2>For the next part, I have to do it in

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump voice, because otherwise the grammar won't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you want lectures or an ancient history, or an

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<v Speaker 2>introduction to financial accounting or a trading get a skilled trade.

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<v Speaker 2>The goal will be to deliver it and get it

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<v Speaker 2>done properly. I love the phrase whether you want lecture

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<v Speaker 2>or an ancient history?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Like you can give yourself a history, like

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<v Speaker 3>you could go back to Samaria and insert yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you want lectures or an ancient history, or an

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<v Speaker 2>introduction into financial accounting or training in a skilled trade.

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<v Speaker 2>So you will be able to learn all of this

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<v Speaker 2>online for free, getting a truly top tier education, which

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like okay. But Trump specified that your American Academy

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<v Speaker 2>education will be quote unquote strictly non political unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited to learn an ancient history from a

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<v Speaker 2>strictly non political standpoint. That's that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't discuss the formation of the state because there

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<v Speaker 3>will be a political stance.

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<v Speaker 2>Furthermore, Donald Trump promised that at American Academy. Quote, there

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<v Speaker 2>will be no wokeness or jihadism allowed. None of that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be allowed.

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<v Speaker 3>How will I teach without you? H My personal jihad

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<v Speaker 3>is is to educate the youth of America, but now

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<v Speaker 3>I can't by taking it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, not allowed, not allowed, going to trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Very sad, very sad.

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<v Speaker 2>So this plan also seeks to help the forty million

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<v Speaker 2>Americans who have some college education but no complete degree,

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<v Speaker 2>by granting credit for past course work at quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>legacy institutions and giving Americans quote the chance to complete

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<v Speaker 2>your education at the American Academy for free and much

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<v Speaker 2>more quickly than is now possible or available unquote. So now,

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<v Speaker 2>if there weren't red flags going off already, there certainly

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<v Speaker 2>should be now with that last line, more quickly than

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<v Speaker 2>it is now possible or available, which is which is

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<v Speaker 2>a classic tell of an online university scam. Now, the

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<v Speaker 2>exact details of how the American Academy is supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>work are kind of unclear, probably because it hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>figured out yet. It's bullshit, courage, and quite possibly never

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<v Speaker 2>will get figured out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, many such cases, and Agenda forty seven as it

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<v Speaker 3>turns out.

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<v Speaker 2>But Trump University founder Donald Trump did say that his

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<v Speaker 2>American Academy proposal does plan to quote compete directly with

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<v Speaker 2>existing and very costly four year university systems, like granting

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<v Speaker 2>students degree credentials that the US government and all federal

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<v Speaker 2>contractors will henceforth recognize.

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<v Speaker 3>The other recognize him as fucking useless.

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<v Speaker 4>Not degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>Degree credentials. Yeah, degree credentials.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna put my degree credential up on my wall.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just another Trump University, an uncredited scam that

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is hoping to prop up with the federal government,

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<v Speaker 2>this time instead of his business empire. It's it's not

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<v Speaker 2>it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>His entire thing, isn't it Like, yes, that is the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not real. It's not real. He's he's framing this

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<v Speaker 2>plan as a quote unquote revolution in higher education that

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<v Speaker 2>will vital life changing opportunities by awarding American citizens with

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<v Speaker 2>quote the full and complete equilivent of a bachelor's degree.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it when he just fucking sends it on

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<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be one in my in my episode which

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<v Speaker 3>you're here later this week, or when he just cannot

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<v Speaker 3>say the word film and I love that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>fucking try. He just he just owns it.

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<v Speaker 2>The full and complete equivalent.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not neither.

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<v Speaker 2>That's neither full nor complete if it's an equil anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump Trump ends this video with an eloquent quote, enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 2>learn from it, and thank you, which is.

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<v Speaker 3>Just I'm gonna finish you on my lectures that way

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<v Speaker 3>that and then I'll do like a smoke puff and

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<v Speaker 3>just disappear.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, this is this is the first plan to

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<v Speaker 2>save American education. That sounds great. I cannot wait to

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<v Speaker 2>get a full and complete equivalent of a bachelor's degree credential.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wonderful stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you know what isn't a scam? James?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we say that, like I, we might be absolute.

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<v Speaker 2>I trust my life on every single product and or

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<v Speaker 2>service that follows this musical sting.

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<v Speaker 4>We are back.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not, I repeat, do not send me any of

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<v Speaker 2>the advertisers that just aired. I don't care what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>My life is indebted. I don't care. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>You can send them to you can send them to Sophie.

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<v Speaker 3>Her Twitter is at I write, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I write okay, send it to Sophie all right, so

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<v Speaker 2>while this Trump University too will remain uncredited. Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>creator of the Donald Trump board game that did not

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<v Speaker 2>sell there. Well, when I can.

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<v Speaker 3>Eady for what, Yeah, didn't you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, creator of the Dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump board game.

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<v Speaker 3>No? Wow, okay, is it like monopoly? But you just

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<v Speaker 3>look lie and generate.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't look too far into it for the bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest here. This is Yeah, disappointed. I

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<v Speaker 2>was ready to go a deep dive. But Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>also plans to attack the current accreditation system for being

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<v Speaker 2>run by a Communist scourge, which leads us to our

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<v Speaker 2>second Agenda forty seven topic titled quote protecting students from

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<v Speaker 2>the radical Left and Marxist maniacs infecting educational institutions. But

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<v Speaker 2>I believe he's talking about you, James.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is ironic. I'm an anarchist and I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>a Marxist's maniac. No, No, Sadly, not many such cases.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do make them read the Communist Manifesto in

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<v Speaker 3>my one oh one class.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to read it. You gotta. It's it's something

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<v Speaker 3>you should emerge from history education having.

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<v Speaker 2>Read so Trump starts for talking about how quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>academics are quote obsessed with inductrinating America's youth at colleges

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<v Speaker 2>and universities while charging a ballooning tuition fee. Trump claims

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<v Speaker 2>to have a quote unquote secret weapon that he will

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<v Speaker 2>use to quote reclaim our once great educational institutions from

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<v Speaker 2>the radical left, the college accreditation system. It's called accreditation

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<v Speaker 2>for a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called accreditation for a reason. He never extravolates on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I genuinely don't. I can't fathom what I think he means.

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<v Speaker 3>That could go in so many directions.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no way to know. There's no way to know.

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<v Speaker 3>It just leaves a hanging.

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<v Speaker 2>So Trump explains that quote accreditors are supposed to ensure

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<v Speaker 2>that schools are not ripping off students and taxpayers, but

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<v Speaker 2>they have failed totally unquote, which is not really what

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<v Speaker 2>college accreditors do. Both government run and private accreditation organizations

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<v Speaker 2>exist to develop criteria and CONDUCTI valuations to ensure educational

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<v Speaker 2>quality and authorize if a school qualifies for student aid

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<v Speaker 2>programs from the Department of Education. That's generally what accreditation

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<v Speaker 2>institutions do. They don't look out for if students are

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<v Speaker 2>being ripped off, like that's not really their role, but whatever. So,

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<v Speaker 2>upon returning to sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, DC, Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump promised that he will quote fire the radical left

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<v Speaker 2>accreditors that have allowed our colleges to become dominated by

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<v Speaker 2>Marxist maniacs and lunatics. So he believes that there's like

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<v Speaker 2>communists that are running the accreditation system and that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>currently ruining colleges, is that is his belief.

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<v Speaker 3>They come in, they sit at the back, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is the right little book perhaps to be read, and

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<v Speaker 3>they and then we have a criticism circle afterwards where

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<v Speaker 3>they check how many mark references you've made in your lecture.

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<v Speaker 2>So, after sending all these communists to the Gulag, Trump

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<v Speaker 2>will then begin to quote accept applications for newer creditors.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's unclear if he's talking about just like the

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<v Speaker 2>public or private sector here, but these newer creditors will

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<v Speaker 2>quote impose real standards and colleges once again and once

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<v Speaker 2>and for all. Now what such standards you ask? Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>James Well. Trump gave us a handy little list which

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<v Speaker 2>includes like some of the more average conservative to libertarian

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<v Speaker 2>esque positions like protecting free speech, eliminating wasteful administrative positions

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<v Speaker 2>that drive up costs, offering options for accelerated and low

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<v Speaker 2>cost degrees, providing meaningful job placement and career services, and

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<v Speaker 2>implementing college entrants and exit exams to prove that students

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<v Speaker 2>are actually learning or getting their money's worth, right, Which

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<v Speaker 2>all that sounds like kind of standard politician talk. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, sure, but Trump did mention a few

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<v Speaker 2>other standards that will be imposed once again by this

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<v Speaker 2>new generation of accreditors, which will also include quote, defending

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<v Speaker 2>the American tradition and Western civilization and removing all Marxist

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<v Speaker 2>diverse the equity and inclusion be a regrets unquote. So

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<v Speaker 2>d I Dei the right's new favorite boogiey man that's

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<v Speaker 2>responsible from everything from rising university costs to botched surgeries,

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<v Speaker 2>aviation incidents, and boats malfunctioning and cladding with bridges. It

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<v Speaker 2>is it is the the villain of the of the

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<v Speaker 2>conservative right at the moment. And so because this has

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<v Speaker 2>been a trending topic among conservatives, Trump's trying to jump

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<v Speaker 2>on this Dei train, which sounds incredibly dangerous from their

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<v Speaker 2>perspective because this term he probably never even heard of before,

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<v Speaker 2>like a year ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, come on, no, I don't think he. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think he implemented DII in his business institutions. I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is Yeah, it's a word they say when they

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<v Speaker 3>can't say slurs. They think they've found a funny workaround

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<v Speaker 3>to saying slurs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's this thing with like every time someone

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<v Speaker 2>says like like critical race theory, woke or DEI, they're

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<v Speaker 2>really just trying to say a slur. And if and

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<v Speaker 2>if you, if you replace those three terms with just

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<v Speaker 2>a slur, their sentences make a lot more sense because

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<v Speaker 2>the way they use the word woke does not mean

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<v Speaker 2>anything in a lot of cases. But if you just

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<v Speaker 2>replace it for a racial slur, you're like, oh, now

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand what they're saying. It's a handy trick

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<v Speaker 2>that really is not fun to.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about, yeah, arisobtle.

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<v Speaker 2>As a part of this DEI frenzy, Trump has promised

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<v Speaker 2>to quote direct the Department of Education to pursue federal

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<v Speaker 2>civil rights cases against the schools they continue to engage

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<v Speaker 2>in racial discrimination unquote, which also kind of calls upon

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<v Speaker 2>like older like affirmative action complaints that conservatives have been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about for years.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I wondered if he was going after.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it kind of it ties into that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And Trump added that this race based discrimination quote includes

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<v Speaker 2>discrimination against Asian Americans unquote, which is definitely invoking that

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<v Speaker 2>style of affirmative action conservative rhetoric from like, yeah, ten

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<v Speaker 2>five years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Yay.

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<v Speaker 3>Even more recent is that Supreme Court case. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was that was that was just like last year,

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<v Speaker 3>Becky with the bad grades. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So beyond just threatening to sick the DOJ on woke schools,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump also made the more specific promise that if schools

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<v Speaker 2>quote persist in explicit unlawful discrimination under the guise of

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<v Speaker 2>equity unquote, he will not only make sure that their

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<v Speaker 2>endowments be taxed, but also quote, through budget reconciliation, I

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<v Speaker 2>will advance to measure to have them find up to

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<v Speaker 2>the entire amount of their endowment unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>Does he realize that, no, no schools have endowments, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I teach you in the community college, we ain't got

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<v Speaker 3>an endowment.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's he's I'm sure that he's gonna go after

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<v Speaker 2>like the Harvard Endowment. Yeah, that's gonna track. Yeah, have

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<v Speaker 2>have fun finding fifty billion dollars from Harvard. That's totally

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. But his plan after he seizes these endowments, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>a portion of the seized funds will then be used

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<v Speaker 2>as institution for victims of these illegal and unjust policies,

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<v Speaker 2>policies that hurt our country so badly. Colleges have gotten

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of billions of dollars from hard working taxpayers, and

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<v Speaker 2>now we're going to get this anti American insanity out

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<v Speaker 2>of our institutions once and for all. So that's cool, Like, okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna use this to pay back white people who've

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<v Speaker 2>been if we've been denied college admission. Okay, cool, that

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like a winning electoral statue.

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<v Speaker 3>You have finally the reparations people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly exactly. You know who's had it too hard

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<v Speaker 2>for too long?

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<v Speaker 3>Chance, it's white people who didn't make it through college gars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's because they didn't get to it's because they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't go to Yale. Now they have to go to Princeton.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, embarrassing, right, why would you even bother?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's but it's not just colleges. Trump also threatened

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<v Speaker 2>to quote cut federal funding for any school or program

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<v Speaker 2>publishing critical race theory, gender ideology, or other inappropriate racial, sexual,

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<v Speaker 2>or political content onto our children. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>allow it to happen, folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Very cool, Great, Yeah, I used to teach a gender

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<v Speaker 3>sociology course. Forward to defund defund. Yeah, yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 3>we're going down fight together. We're gonna do that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>They will have to fight that way in there. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>say that on air.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't say that you're gonna turn your community college

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<v Speaker 2>into a you can't say that. So, yeah, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go after school, regular schools, both college and universities, regular schools.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's doing any any CRT gender ideology, you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell that some of this was written like a year

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<v Speaker 2>and a half ago, because no, no one's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>critical race theory anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, I missing. But like, can you imagine

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<v Speaker 3>teaching a sociology course and just being like, yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna skip past race and gender.

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<v Speaker 2>Politics, set past politics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is this is a man who himself went

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<v Speaker 3>to Like did he go to hot Yale?

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<v Speaker 2>No, he did not go to either. He was sent

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<v Speaker 2>to a military school by his father when he was

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen for being annoying. Then he think he went to

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<v Speaker 2>a school in Pennsylvania, respect And then what other school

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<v Speaker 2>did he go to?

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<v Speaker 3>Critical respect to his dad.

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<v Speaker 2>He yeah, he went to the New York Military Academy.

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<v Speaker 2>That he went to Fordham University and then the University

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<v Speaker 2>of Pennsylvania's Wharton School.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Wharton Business School. Yeah, not a real graduate degree.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason why this is also evils because Trump

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<v Speaker 2>thinks that a lot of this stuff is basically forming

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<v Speaker 2>a new religion. All this woke stuff quote, the Marxism

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<v Speaker 2>being preached in our schools is totally hostile to Judeo

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<v Speaker 2>Christian teachings, and in many ways it resembles establishing a

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<v Speaker 2>new religion. Can't let that happen. I can't let that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing we take a big swing at is Judeo

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<v Speaker 3>Christian institutions.

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<v Speaker 2>To combat this growing threat of religious Marxism.

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<v Speaker 3>His administration, I'm sorry, I cannot oh.

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<v Speaker 2>His administration will quote aggressively pursue potential violations of the

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<v Speaker 2>Establishment Clause and the free exercise Clause of the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very simple.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you quite understand before we met of that

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<v Speaker 3>that luckily we do Russian Orthodox Marxism at my university,

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<v Speaker 3>so we should say, god, yeah, well a lot of beards.

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<v Speaker 2>So and then, in kind of like a laundry list

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<v Speaker 2>of policies and talking points, Trump pledged to quote veto

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<v Speaker 2>the sinister effort to weaponize civics education, we will keep

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<v Speaker 2>men out of women's sports and will create a new

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<v Speaker 2>credentialing body that'll be the gold standard anywhere in the

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<v Speaker 2>world to certified teachers who embrace patriotic values, support a

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<v Speaker 2>way of life, and understand that their job is not

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<v Speaker 2>to indoctrinate children but very simply to educate them.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's ever done. No one has ever created a

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<v Speaker 3>credentialing body for patriotic teachers who embrace quote our way

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<v Speaker 3>of life before, it's never been done.

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<v Speaker 2>Sinister efforts to weaponize civics.

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<v Speaker 3>Just imagine him looking for looking for the Civics bill. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>very funny, So probably distract him for a while. Stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing some actual terrible shit.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit with that last part was like indoctrinating children,

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<v Speaker 2>And this next little bit will kind of demonstrate how

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like QAnon didn't simply go away like some have postulated. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just been absorbed into the fabric of American politics.

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<v Speaker 2>No longer does the boogeyman have to be a DNC

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<v Speaker 2>pedophilic elite. Now it's been deterritorialized and destroyed and mutated

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<v Speaker 2>into just being any school teacher and or like every

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 2>trans person right or God forbid a transgender school say,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like the prime evil of the current conservative society.

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<v Speaker 2>And Trump promises on day one of his new presidency

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<v Speaker 2>he will he will quote begin to find and remove

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<v Speaker 2>the radicals, Zealots, and Marxists who have infiltrated the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Education, and that also includes others. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>who you are, because we are not going to allow

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<v Speaker 2>anyone to hurt our children.

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<v Speaker 4>You know who you are. You know who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the weaponization of nearly eight years of

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 2>QAnon rhetoric, right, that is, that has grown past the

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 2>need to actually invoke QAnon, plus the two years of

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party, the daily wire and limbs of TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>working to shift q Andon's kind of disgraced and unfocused

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 2>momentum towards a manufactured continuation in the form of this

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 2>transgender groomer craze that's taking over American schools. Quote, Joe

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Biden has given these lunatics unchecked power. I will have

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 2>them fired and escorted from the building. And I will

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 2>tell Congress that any appropriations bill I sign must reaffirm

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>the president's ability to remove defined employees from the job.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about our children unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>Just imagining an executive order to remove someone from the lecture.

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to be signing an executive order on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast to go to another at break, we are

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<v Speaker 2>back and thank you James for reaffirming my ability to

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<v Speaker 2>remove defiant ads.

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, why you were all away? The several federal

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 3>agents came in and inserted an ad break.

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 2>In this last section here, we're going to return to

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Trump's conception that entire alternatives are needed to America's broken,

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 2>woke school system, now focusing on the grade school side

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 2>rather than just the post secondary. So in this vein,

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Trump is courting the growing number of homeschooling families, though

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 2>according to a Washington Post poll from last year, Republican

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>homeschoolers outnumbered Democrat ones two to one, so he kind

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 2>of already has the majority of that vote. But still

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>something he is going after. According to Trump, ever since

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>quote the China virus, America has seen an estimated thirty

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 2>present increase in homeschool enrollment unquote. It's just a funny

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.239
<v Speaker 2>term as homeschool in roll.

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, just going to the homeschool to enroll.

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be enrolling in homeschool. Very funny. An if

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 2>elective president for a second time, he will do everything

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>to support quote parents who make the courageous choice of

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 2>home school unquote. Again, the way he uses home the

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>word homeschool is unlike anyone else I've ever heard of.

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Talk it is. It is a very odd use of

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>the English language.

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he doesn't seem to understand parts of.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Speech like no, no, And Trump said he'll work to

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>ensure that homeschoolers will be entitled to all the benefits

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>available to non homeschool students, like being able to participate

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 2>in athletic programs, clubs, atter school activities, educational trips, and more.

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 2>He pledged that in his next term, he will allow

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 2>five to nine education savings accounts to be used for

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 2>quote costs associated with homeschool education. A current five to

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 2>nine savings accounts families to withdraw up to ten thousand

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 2>dollars a year to spend tax free on tuition for

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>private schools, which Trump called a quote tremendous win for

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>a school choice, very important school choice. To remember that

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>term unquote. That term never comes up again in this video. Great.

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>So Trump is planning to expand this tuition savings program

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>to include homeschooling families as well, with a very unknown

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 2>system of checks and balances to determine what exactly qualifies

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 2>as costs related to homeschooling. And often homeschooling is used

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 2>by abusive parents to just have kids do free labor

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 2>around the house, and they try to make it count

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>as like education. And like if you're now allowing parents

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to put money into a savings account to remove ten

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>thousand a year tax free spent on education, like what

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>does what does that mean? Does that mean just curriculum?

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Does that mean like household supplies because that's being put

0:29:56.600 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 2>towards their homeschool because they're schooling at home. Like very

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>very unclear, And it's kind of refers back to some

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 2>of the general problems homeschooling, especially in like conservative homeschooling

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>or just as a large way to abuse children not

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 2>in like the groomer way that right wing people talk about.

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, you're just literally like limiting your kids'

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:16.959
<v Speaker 2>access to the outside world because you think if they

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 2>go outside they're gonna turn gay. So but even if

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 2>oh sorry, there's there's one one final quote from this

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 2>homeschooling video, which are just fucking phenomenal to every homeschool family.

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I will be your champion. Do not vote Democrat. They're

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 2>looking to destroy you. If you don't mind me saying

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 2>that Joe Biden can't put two sentences together, and yet

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 2>he's looking to destroy you. Do not vote Democrat. Do

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 2>not vote for crook and Joe vote for honest Donald,

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 2>thank you very much. It's funny because in the video

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>when he says vote for honest Donald, he also starts

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>to crack up because he knows how ridiculousness is. God,

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I vote for croaking Joe, vote for Arnest Nuddled, Thank

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 2>you very much, Very very cool. They're looking to destroy

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 2>you if you don't might be saying.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you don't mind me, a man who rarely

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 3>asked permission to say the most exane shit.

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>So even if parents are not choosing to homeschool. Trump

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 2>wants to let voters know that he will fight for parents' rights,

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 2>which isn't quite a dog whistle, but it does refer

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 2>to a very specific style of patriarchal rhetoric popularized by

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 2>hyper religious conservative think tanks that propose an extremely narrow

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 2>version of how the American family should operate within society.

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>More on this later, But so what can Trump do

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 2>to let right wing religious parents know that he will

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>be their champion even in like blue states or big cities.

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 2>As much as Trump might want to be a dictator,

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have unlimited power to impose his war on

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 2>wokeness in liberal cities. But Donald Trump, who was impeached

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 2>for trying to blackmail the president of Ukraine in summer

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>of twenty nineteen, does have a plan. He wants to

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 2>quote implement massive funding preferences and favorable treatment unquote for

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 2>states and school districts that make four specific quote historic

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 2>reforms and education that Trump has decreed. These four specific

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>reforms include abolishing tenure for K through twelve teachers so

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>that we can quote remove bad teachers and adopt merit

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>pay to reward good teachers. The second is to quote

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 2>drastically cut the blowed number of school administrators, including the

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 2>costly and divisive and unnecessary DEI bureaucracy. Third to adopt

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>a parental bill of rights that includes complete curriculum transparency

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.959
<v Speaker 2>in a form of universal school choice. And lastly, quote

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 2>implement the direct election of school principles by the parents.

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Trump calls this last bit the ultimate form of local control,

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 2>something our country has never had, or at least has

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 2>not had for the last fifty years. So those are

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 2>his four reform plans, which is like, yeah, you know

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 2>who's had it too easy for too long, teachers. Let's

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 2>abolish ten year adopt merit pay a disaster of a system,

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>cut administrative roles, put more work on teachers, have parents

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 2>be able to fire fire principles by voting, and a

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 2>vote to elect their own principle, and universal school choices

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>is actually more of a dog whistle that it just

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>refers to a series of like very racist, like urban

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 2>planning policies to direct rich white people's funding into a

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 2>very few, selected number of schools instead of where they

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 2>actually like live and instead of the actual district they

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 2>live in. So there's all of that, and like what

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Trump keeps coming back to. Among all these quote unquote reforms,

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>it all kind of relates to complete parental dominance. And

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>part of this was the parental Bill of Rights, which

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 2>you've probably seen some conservatives talking about more these past

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 2>few years. And this is another quote from Trump here.

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>It's all about the parents for their children, more than

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 2>anyone else. Parents know what their children need. And if

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 2>you haven't heard of a parental bill of rights directly,

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you most certainly have heard of one by another name

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 2>that don't say gay bill that was a parental rights bill,

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 2>a sensibly targeting education, but these bills often end up

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 2>giving parents just complete control over every aspect of the

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>child's life. They dictate how children are allowed to express

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 2>themselves and allow parents to impose nearly any discipline or punishment.

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>They desire total control over what the child eats, what

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 2>they wear, what they read, what they watch, what they

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 2>see online, and what they're allowed to learn in school,

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 2>who they're allowed to socialize with. Some of these bills

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>that I read through for this also bar mandatory masking

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 2>policies and schools back when that was the thing, and

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 2>then are often full of anti vax talking points and

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 2>attempts to ban sex ed and quote unquote gender politics.

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 2>As a part of these bills, teachers in school administration

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 2>are legally required to act as parental surveillance tools to

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 2>report how a child behaves, how they socialize, how they dress,

0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 2>how they like to be referred to, and who they

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 2>are friends with. This includes outing children as gay or

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 2>trans to parents if anyone in the school suspects that

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the student has a non heterosexual sexual orientation or is

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>acting in any way inconsistent with their assigned gender at birth.

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 2>These types of bills often have other consequences as well.

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 2>In states where some of these bills have passed, like

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, due to legal risks, some elementary schools have

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 2>been unable to talk about or give out educational materials

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 2>on consent or how to identify when child sexual abuse

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 2>is taking place as a part of the Safe Touch programs.

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.919
<v Speaker 2>These programs are basically unable to happen because teachers will

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>now be held personally legally liable if any parent objects

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>to this material. So parental rights bills have been signed

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 2>into law in six states over the past two legislative years,

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 2>famously Florida as well as Arizona, Georgia, Louisiana, Iowa, and

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. Since then, similar bills have been introduced to

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 2>more than twenty five states, many of which have passed

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 2>through at least one chamber. Some of them are still

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>in the process of either passing through a second chape

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 2>or being signed by the governor. Yeah, I'm gonna end

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 2>with two quotes here from uh from Trump that kind

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 2>of reiterate this this this parental dominance thing that he's

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 2>really pushing for. And also people like Ronda Santists have

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 2>been pushing forward Tad Cruz, a lot of a lot

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of writing politicians quote as the saying goes,

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 2>personnel is policy. And at the end of the day,

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 2>if we have pink haired communists teaching our kids, we

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 2>have a major problem. When I'm president, we will put

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 2>parents back in charge and give them the final say.

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 2>We will get back to teaching reading, writing, and math

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 2>called arithmetic, and we will kill our kids the high

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 2>quality pro American education they deserve. They're gonna teach you

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 2>math called arithmetic, magnificence amazing. We may spend the most,

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.919
<v Speaker 2>but we're going to be tops in education no matter,

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 2>no matter where you go anywhere in the world. We're

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.280
<v Speaker 2>gonna be top in education.

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 3>There will be no bottoms in the American education system

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 3>going forward.

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.320
<v Speaker 2>So this is this is Donald Trump, the second host

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 2>of the TV show The Apprentice, who is run for

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 2>public office. This is his plan for education. Doctor jam Stout,

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.879
<v Speaker 2>how do you feel about about these education reform proposals.

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't seem like a rare idea,

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 3>if I'm being honest, Having having listened to it, I

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 3>think perhaps he hasn't got the uh, the sharpest grasp

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 3>on what's going on in the education system. The reason

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 3>we have education is because your parents don't necessarily know

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 3>what's best for you, right, Like.

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Your parents can't be an expert in everything.

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so some of us go and get PhDs so

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 3>we can, and then we teach your people how the

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 3>important things about that, like you're by definition your parents

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 3>cannot fulfill all the roles in an education system fulfills and.

0:37:55.760 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Like unlike pink haired communists who have complete who have

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 2>complete total control over every aspect of what a child

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 2>should learn.

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 3>It's one of the things when you enter the university,

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, like they did a tuberculosis test and then

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 3>they pass you a pink hair dye, and I mean

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 3>you get a nose piercing as well.

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 2>A lot of this is very much reminiscent of like

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 2>the the fears of like communist education that you see

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 2>in like the nineteen thirties. How there's a lot of

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.800
<v Speaker 2>political a lot of political tension trying to be raised

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 2>over the fear that there's communists teaching you in universities

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<v Speaker 2>and schools.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's interesting because at the same time.

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Like Frankfurt school style stuff.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I've written a lot about like anarchist ideals

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 3>educational ideals, right, so at the same time, they were

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 3>anarchists in Spain being like, you know, we should we

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 3>should do all our classes in the forest. Let's just

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 3>go out into the forest. Or absolutely there was a

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 3>school by the sea where they talked kids like they

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 3>were just having this incredible utopian education dream, which in

0:38:56.280 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 3>many ways we still haven't adapted to some of the

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 3>things that that really could offer, and instead, yeah, we're

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 3>having this McCarthyism Part two.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, great, that is that is Trump's plan for education.

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 2>In case, in case you didn't know, So watch out

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>for those pink cared communists. Keep an eye out for

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.479
<v Speaker 2>any parental bill of rights being proposed in your state,

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 2>and it is probably has little little to do with

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 2>actually protecting children and more to do with making parents

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>just a complete dominating force and controlling every aspect of

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 2>their child's life. And I mean, the other sins we're

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 2>thinking about this is like it removes access to for

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 2>for kids to talk about things that that they may

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 2>be upset about.

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 3>And access to mandated reporters, like exactly, a mandated reporter

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 3>like this seems to exactly gets away from that exactly.

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 2>And and I mean the idea that that that schools

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 2>are going to be legally required to out a child

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 2>if he's if they're acting like perceived to be deviant

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.879
<v Speaker 2>in some like gender actual way. Like all of these

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>things are just ways to enable parental abuse in a

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 2>variety of like ways that are explicit and non explicit.

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's it's it's it's quite it's quite upsetting.

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 2>And that's the that's the thing that conservatives are currently

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 2>trying to push forward. This is a big topic. This

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>stuff was talking about in the Republican primaries that were

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 2>completely useless constantly stuff like this is something this is

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 2>referred to while in evoking this fear of like this

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>pink haired transgender communist teacher just currently like the biggest

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 2>threat to America according to most conservatives.

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they can take us down from the inside.

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>That and jihadism, which are probably linked somehow.

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I think, Well it's the pink head, your hottest,

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 3>the famous.

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Well that isn't for us today. What are we going

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 2>to be learning about next for Agenda forty seven.

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Games, Well, we're going to be learning next about immigration

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump's border policies. Many of you will be shocked

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 3>to hear that they're not very good. And well, I

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 3>have two classes to sell if you're if you're in

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 3>San Diego and you want to get in before they

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 3>take the Marxism out of the education system, you can

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 3>but strike now.

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<v Speaker 2>I do love how I do love how much of

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:12.919
<v Speaker 2>this is. Like do you know who's had it easy

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 2>for too long? Transgender teachers there they're having.

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Out yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the people who are so

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 3>fucking broke they have to have like go fundme's up

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 3>for their gender reassignment surgery, the.

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Great wonderful stuff. Yeah, all right, we will be back

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow to talk about Trump's border policies, things that will

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.439
<v Speaker 2>probably be totally normal, totally chill.

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's very very similar to fucking Faddy. They are

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 3>similar to Biden's, but that's a whole other just terpy.

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 2>That's a whole other discussions. All right, see you on

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 2>the other side. Bye, hello, and welcome.

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 3>DA could happen here Pocus where my friend Garrison Davis

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 3>and I inc her countless amounts of trauma by watching

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 3>videos of Donald Trump talking about things he doesn't understand.

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.240
<v Speaker 3>How are you doing today, Garrison.

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm doing fine and peachy on this wonderful spring afternoon.

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll sort that out for you. We'll bring you

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 3>back down because what we gathered here today to discuss, Garrison,

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 3>is that we talked about gender forty seven yesterday. So

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 3>hopefully people have listened. If you haven't, you know, you

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 3>can go back and understand what gender forty seven is.

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 3>This short version is that it's Donald Trump's policy platform

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 3>for his proposed second term. Right, if he gets elected

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty four, and there is a lot of

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:43.720
<v Speaker 3>agenda forty seven, we'll.

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Breaking down a lot of forty seven. Yeah, yeah, arguably

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 2>too much agenda forty seven.

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so yeah, yeah, one could argue that, I think

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:55.439
<v Speaker 3>quite compellingly, what we're talking about today is his board

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.240
<v Speaker 3>of immigration policy. And I don't think it'll shock anyone

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 3>to hear that these are major pillars of forty seven. Right.

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 3>He kind of launched his political career with an incredibly

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 3>bigoted speech about migrants, and it's been the real through line,

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Like the only thing, one of the few things where

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 3>he actually was able to be efficient enough to do

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 3>a large amount of harm was at the border and

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 3>with immigration right, and it certainly seems like he has

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 3>plans to a lot more in twenty twenty four. Post

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four, I guess Biden's tried to counter this

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 3>by lurching to the right, but he's handled a lot

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 3>of people in the process. But this hasn't stopped Trump

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:35.920
<v Speaker 3>without taking a breath out flanking him far to the

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 3>right on immigration policy. So that's what we're going to

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:41.720
<v Speaker 3>talk about today. So gender forty seven website. It's structured

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 3>with a series of these scripted rumble videos which are

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 3>embedded and then in a spectacular own goal also transcripted,

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 3>which just like like Garrison said yesterday, it is a

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 3>joy to read Donald Trump speaking without hearing Donald Trump speaking,

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 3>it is you never know what coming next, like it

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 3>consistently blindsides you. No one can the best to ever

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 3>do it, and no one, no one could replicate Donald Trump.

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:12.240
<v Speaker 3>So a lot of the pages detail his proposed actions

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 3>on his first day in office, right what he's going

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 3>to do with his executive power or which, as we'll

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 3>go into, he seems to be this is not a

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 3>man who attended to civic class and paid attention.

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Well because because it was weaponized.

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, he he's loving American didn't

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.879
<v Speaker 3>go okay. The other things address like cloudy right wing

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 3>talking points which in many cases kind of either fictional

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 3>or over exaggerated, are not really related to what's going

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 3>on with the border and midration, and he sort of

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 3>proposes quite unquote solutions often it's not exactly clear how

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 3>or if these things are legal, but I think, as

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 3>we'll get into, that doesn't really matter. His big theme

0:44:56.719 --> 0:45:00.879
<v Speaker 3>going through all of his immigration content is to end

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 3>what he calls automatic citizenship for children. I'm not going

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 3>to do the voice. I can't do the voice.

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Because you're cursed with your britishness. Blessed yes, yeah, sure,

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:19.720
<v Speaker 2>yea God chosen people. Okay, yeah, average average Christian identity

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 2>opinion heverage.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, big, big Christian identity opinion have it. Okay.

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 3>So Donald Trump, right, his big thing is taking a

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 3>swing at the Fourteenth Amendment, right, at birthright citizenship. It's

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 3>very funny that it's not funny. Actually it's quite fucked.

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 3>But if you're not familiar, the Fourteenth Amendment right was

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 3>passed after the Civil War, and in the first part

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 3>of the Fourteenth Amendment, there's a sentence that reads, all

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 3>persons born or naturalized in the United States and the

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:52.760
<v Speaker 3>subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States.

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Cool.

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 2>That sounds very simple.

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does, doesn't it. It does. What you're not considering

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 3>garrison is like fringes on the flag tier legal bullshit,

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 3>which Donald Trump and his camp, unsurprisingly are pursuing. We're

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 3>going to get to a little bit about this later.

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 3>This is they're not the first group of people to

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 3>make ending birth right citizenship the whole thing right. It's

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 3>been a sort of a bugbear on the right for

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 3>a while. So, as I said, the Fonding for Men

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.359
<v Speaker 3>was strongly opposed by Confederate States after the Civil War. Right,

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 3>but they were forced to ratify it in order to

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 3>regain representation in Congress.

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get fucked.

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:32.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So John Donald Trump's now bringing, I guess, coming

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.240
<v Speaker 3>back on behalf of the Confederacy to challenge the Fourteenth

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 3>to make in any such cases in this and many

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:45.800
<v Speaker 3>other ways. That's why they call him stone Wall Trump,

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 3>do they they? Yeah? Wait, really no, I don't think

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guarantee, I guarantee. Let's just google it

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 3>real quick. Let's see what comes up Stonewall Trump. It's

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 3>going to be one of two things. Stone Wall really splits. Wow. Okay,

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.399
<v Speaker 3>now there's some curse stuff there. Google that your own risk.

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 3>So the Fourteenth Amendment has been really pivotal in American history.

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 3>It's one of the most litigated amendments to the Constitution.

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 6>Right.

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 3>It gave us the Road decision, which has now been overheard,

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 3>give us the Obergefel decision, which legalizes the same sex marriage.

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.919
<v Speaker 3>Gave us Brown versus Board of Education. More relevant here

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 3>is that it superseded the dread Scott case and shrind

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.280
<v Speaker 3>in law the right if anyone born in the USA,

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:32.320
<v Speaker 3>regardless of race or a snithety to be a citizen,

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:34.800
<v Speaker 3>and it has a few exemptions, like I think the

0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 3>children of foreign diplomats and visiting heads of state are

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 3>not US citizens. So like King Charles couldn't come over here,

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 3>have another kid and then have that kid be a

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 3>dual citizen. Trump proposes that he's going to stop this

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 3>immediately on entering office by executive order.

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Can you remove an amendment of the Constitution by executive order? James,

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a legal expert by any means.

0:47:56.800 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 3>No. No, Look, I am a historian of anarchists in Spain.

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.280
<v Speaker 3>This is not the center of my area of expertise.

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 3>But I'm pretty confident, like without going full seth Abramson here,

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 3>that no, you can't. You can't just do that because

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 3>it certainly feels wrong. Yeah, it seems like it doesn't

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 3>pass the smell test. No, I think if American history

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 3>would be very different if you could change the Constitution

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 3>by executive order. But this isn't going to stop Donald

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.839
<v Speaker 3>Trump crying. The specific case he has a beef with

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 3>is US versus one kim Ark. It's called it's a

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 3>couple of people who were Chinese nationals who have a

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 3>kid in the United States and the Supreme Court found

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 3>that their kid would citizen right. We don't need to

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 3>go into the case, sure, but Republicans have been on

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 3>this for a long time. I think they really began

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 3>to get concerted momentum behind it during the Obama administration.

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Obviously before Obama was elected, right, Donald Trump sort of

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 3>really entered politics with his birth a lives right and

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 3>this idea that was not a US citizen therefore was

0:49:02.080 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 3>not eligible for the presidency, and sort of that tendency

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 3>continued in Republican politics. Lindsey Graham, a man who looks

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:15.240
<v Speaker 3>like a melting slath, attempted to introduce a constitutional amendment

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 3>during the Obama administration, failed to do so. I don't

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 3>think he actually ever introduced it. I think he just

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.360
<v Speaker 3>sort of shopped it around see if he could get support,

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 3>and then failed. This has been a continuing theme since. Actually,

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 3>Matt Gates, along with Gosas Santos and some other representatives,

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 3>tried to institu a House resolution last year ending birthright citizenship.

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Trump has also been cooking up some rather unique legal

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:41.319
<v Speaker 3>theories about this for a while. In twenty eighteen, he

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:45.440
<v Speaker 3>claimed that you don't need a constitutional amendment to change

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:49.839
<v Speaker 3>the fourteenth Amendment. He also repeatedly claimed that birthright citizenship

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 3>is something that's either rare or in some cases, he

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:56.000
<v Speaker 3>claimed it's unique to the United States, which is not true.

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 3>There are about thirty countries that offer birth right citizenship.

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 3>The legal justification that he offers most often comes from

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 3>someone called John Eastman. Do you know who John Eastman is? Garrison?

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I do not.

0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Johnny'sman was one of the legal architects of Trump's plan

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 3>to overturn the twenty twenty election.

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 3>He has also been indicted in the Georgia case against

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Trump and his co conspirators. Johnnysmonan also tried to do

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 3>birth a shit about Kamala Harris. Many of you will

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 3>be able to draw the line between Karmala Harris and

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:33.919
<v Speaker 3>Barack Obama and perhaps the underlying motivation for their birth

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:38.640
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. But Eastman is contending, I guess that the

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 3>quote subjects to the jurisdiction thereof element of the fourteenth

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Amendment means that somehow people who live in the United States,

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 3>work in the United States, and pay tax in the

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 3>United States are not subject to its jurisdiction if they're

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 3>not citizens themselves, which look, it doesn't matter how Like

0:50:57.400 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 3>I think the big thing I want you guys to

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 3>take away from this is but everything he wants to

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 3>do is probably illegal, and none of that really matters, right,

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 3>because we'll have a court like he's he's got a

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court which has but it's packed with Republicans, right,

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 3>and it.

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Has constantly affirmed his ability to do crimes and get

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 2>off with basically no punk.

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, like, this is a man who tried to

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 3>do a coup and it's standing for election again, Like

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 3>the court system is not going to save us. If

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:27.359
<v Speaker 3>he has enough time and he can and enough political will,

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 3>he will try and do this. And I think it's

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 3>not unreasonable to expect that he will attempt buy executive

0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:36.839
<v Speaker 3>order on the first day of his presidency to take

0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 3>birthright citizenship away from the children of undocumented migrants. Garrison,

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:44.320
<v Speaker 3>do you know what won't take rights away from your children?

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I forget what food service box we have and therefore

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.439
<v Speaker 2>cannot make jokes about on air. But it's one of them.

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 2>One of them can, one of them can't. And you

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 2>have to know which one, whatever one advertises, is the

0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 2>good one.

0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, always it'll be when they speak really fast at

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 3>the end, just just slow that down. You hear them

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 3>talking about your children. We're back. We hope you enjoyed

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:19.319
<v Speaker 3>this outwards. The second thing Donald Trump is big mad

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 3>about is something called birth tourism. What that he calls

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:25.040
<v Speaker 3>birth tourism?

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, it's okay, I think, I think I see where

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 2>this is going.

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's when you take a holiday to the the womb,

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:36.439
<v Speaker 3>you go into like a pod and it's very I thought.

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 2>It's where you take a holiday sumwhmer to pop out

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 2>of kin and they get automatic citizenship.

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 3>That's what it actually is. Yeah, which is a great plan. Yeah. Yeah,

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.240
<v Speaker 3>you go on holiday to like an all inclusive resort

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 3>and then you don't have to pay for your birth

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 3>expenses because they're included when you go to your inclusive resort.

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 3>It's a great deal for everyone.

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I didn't I didn't think of that.

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, many few people have. But now now the words

0:52:57.040 --> 0:52:59.879
<v Speaker 3>out and it might close that loophole. What I think

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 3>interesting about his quote unquote birth tourism claims. It's not

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 3>like obviously this again has been a right wing talking

0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 3>point for a long time. Right, it's that in this

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 3>particular section of the Agenda forty seven website. He includes

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:19.759
<v Speaker 3>links to provide evidence for some of his claims, which

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 3>is a bold move for Donald Trump, a man who

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 3>excus evidence. But what he links to is the Center

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 3>for Immigration Studies, right, the CIS. The CIS is an

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 3>extremely right wing thing tank. It's founded by someone called

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 3>John Tantun and it's lifted by the SBLC as a

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.480
<v Speaker 3>hate group. The reason it's listed by the SBLC as

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 3>a hate group is because it pretty consistently publishes the

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 3>work of someone called Jason rich Wine, who is an

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 3>unreconstructed race science guy, right, like a modern day phrenologist,

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 3>if you will. This is a man who is so

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 3>racist that he was forced to resign from the Heritage Foundation.

0:53:58.040 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh wow.

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I didn't know what was possible. Actually it

0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:02.360
<v Speaker 3>was quite.

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know they had like a bar for that. Huh.

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:07.240
<v Speaker 3>No, two races for the Heritage Foundation.

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Is is quite racist gravestone.

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they probably will after CIS when there's a bit

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:17.359
<v Speaker 3>of a blow up about this is during the first

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 3>round presidency and CIS claim they it wouldn't be unusual

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 3>to occasionally include a racist or an anti semite, given

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:26.279
<v Speaker 3>the volume of content they put out. So this led

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.840
<v Speaker 3>to the Southern Poverty Law Center conducting an analysis of

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 3>their weekly newsletter. I'm going to read you a summary

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:34.719
<v Speaker 3>of that analysis now. Southern Poverty Law Center and the

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Center for New Community examined approximately four hundred and fifty

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 3>of CIS's weekly emails dating back almost ten years and

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 3>found that CIS circulated over one thousand, seven hundred articles

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:53.439
<v Speaker 3>from vdare dot com. Garrison's face just looks like they've

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 3>stepped in something horrible.

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have this podcast recording.

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's right, an average of three VEDA articles

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:09.200
<v Speaker 3>every week. Huh yeah, So that that's where Donald Trump

0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 3>is getting the bulk of his statistics and information, or

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:14.759
<v Speaker 3>at least Donald Trump isn't writing this stuff, right, I

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 3>don't think he has the attention span. But whoever is

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 3>writing his immigration policy, it is sourcing from vdare.

0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Do we want to explain what the yeah is?

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Go off, Garrison. Let us know.

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:33.600
<v Speaker 2>So VEDE is like this white nationalist like anti immigration,

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 2>not like a lobbying group, but like I kind of.

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 2>They produce a whole bunch of rhetoric and talking points

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:45.400
<v Speaker 2>about all of the big risks of immigration. It gets

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:49.240
<v Speaker 2>sent stuff to like Fox News. Trump's used this stuff before.

0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 2>It's it's not it's not great. They receive like dark

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:58.720
<v Speaker 2>money from conservative like funding groups like Donors Trust. It's

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 2>it's it's way to it's finding a whole bunch of

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:05.280
<v Speaker 2>silly ways to try to justify their types of racism.

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:07.839
<v Speaker 2>And they are they are still a problem. They were

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 2>founded nearly twenty five years ago and they're still They're

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:11.120
<v Speaker 2>still going.

0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they they've compared the anti

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 3>white rhetoric to the Rwandan genocide before, and just they

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 3>What I think is important to hear about v DAY

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:26.840
<v Speaker 3>is that they exist to take straight up hate rhetoric

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:29.240
<v Speaker 3>and insert it to mainstream politics.

0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 2>And yes, they take stuff from like actual, like like

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.640
<v Speaker 2>very like recognized like white nationalist groups and turn it

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:38.880
<v Speaker 2>into rhetoric that is acceptable on Fox News.

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:40.839
<v Speaker 4>That is their entire goal.

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:45.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and cis one might argue, exists to take that

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:49.840
<v Speaker 3>VDA stuff and dress it up as research article, statistics

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:53.720
<v Speaker 3>information that might inform policy. There's a bunch of stuff

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:57.239
<v Speaker 3>in his sort of abolished birth right sitsonship that I

0:56:57.280 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 3>don't think we need to get into. He talks a

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:02.280
<v Speaker 3>lot about birth Hotel. He links to a National Affairs

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:06.440
<v Speaker 3>op ed from Peter Shuck and Rogers Smith. These are

0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 3>the people who have really been like the originators of

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:13.279
<v Speaker 3>the abolished birthright citizenship movement. They wrote a book about it,

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I think in nineteen eighty five. It's also worth noting

0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 3>just so, like Trump repeatedly claims in his little videos

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:26.080
<v Speaker 3>that children can then make their parents citizens as soon

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:29.840
<v Speaker 3>as they become citizens. Like so, if someone was undocumented,

0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 3>right and their child became a citizen in the child,

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, five year old child consponsored and for citizenship,

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:36.800
<v Speaker 3>and a way they are now the whole family is

0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 3>is American citizens right. And then the logic of this

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:45.720
<v Speaker 3>website goes that like Biden imports these people, they all

0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:48.040
<v Speaker 3>become citizens, they all vote for the Democrats, right, And

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 3>this is sort of the great replacement theory with a

0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 3>couple more steps. It's worth noting the children have to

0:57:54.880 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 3>be twenty one to sponsor a parent, and if that

0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:00.880
<v Speaker 3>parent has entered the country in an undog commented way,

0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 3>then the parent has to leave for a decade and

0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:07.440
<v Speaker 3>then come back to apply. It's not possible to simply

0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 3>citizenize your parents as soon as you become a citizen

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:14.120
<v Speaker 3>by birth right citizenship. It would be an extremely long

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 3>game to try and have a kid in order to

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 3>gain your own citizenship. I've met thousands of migrants who

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 3>have entered between ports of entry, right, I've never met

0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 3>anyone who have articulated this this sort of goal, this

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 3>this route to citizenship. He then goes on he has

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:36.040
<v Speaker 3>this like like it's literally a bullet pointed list of

0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 3>border policies.

0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 3>These include quote unquote extreme vetting at a quote national

0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 3>vetting center. That's a little that's a little worrying that

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:46.440
<v Speaker 3>the national vetting center.

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Who's going to be doing this vetting? What are they

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 2>vetting for? Who are they vetting?

0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well the migrants. Who's going to be doing the

0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 3>vetting probably the people who forced women to have abortions

0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:01.480
<v Speaker 3>in their custody and lost thousands of children and have

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:05.720
<v Speaker 3>been able to relocate their families. So that'll be great.

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:08.640
<v Speaker 3>It's not also clear what they're vetting for. He doesn't

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 3>say that specifically. He does say that he wants to

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:17.520
<v Speaker 3>quote unleash interior immigration enforcement, which anyone who's lived in

0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 3>the United States in the last decade may have noticed.

0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 3>So we in fact have interior immigration.

0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that has been unleashed.

0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:25.720
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's kind of me as whole Twitter thing.

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think I guess this is part of

0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:34.080
<v Speaker 3>his massive deportation thing, right, his goal to deport undocumented people.

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 3>He does not at any point differentiate between undocumented people

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:42.000
<v Speaker 3>in the asylum secrets. He seems to see them as

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:42.560
<v Speaker 3>one of the same.

0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all good, dangerous illegals or whatever.

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:48.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah.

0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:51.400
<v Speaker 3>And anyone crossing the border for any reason other than

0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 3>with a visa in hand to him, falls into this,

0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 3>like should be deported.

0:59:56.120 --> 1:00:00.200
<v Speaker 2>If you are a certain skin tone? Yes, yeah, yeah,

1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:03.920
<v Speaker 2>VI's a plus. The skin tone is what makes it okay?

1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah, I think it's probably fair. And what

1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:09.640
<v Speaker 3>else has he got on his lord list here? Let's see,

1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:12.880
<v Speaker 3>there's ending federal grants to sanctuary cities. I'm not quite

1:00:12.880 --> 1:00:15.600
<v Speaker 3>sure how he thinks that would work or what exactly

1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 3>he means by federal grants, like we're just going to

1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:23.680
<v Speaker 3>stop having highways in California. That, yeah, yeah, let's return.

1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm ready. I'll be riding my bike everywhere like a king.

1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:32.520
<v Speaker 3>He also talks about and he calls he ending quote

1:00:32.640 --> 1:00:36.520
<v Speaker 3>catch and release at the border. It's not clear what

1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:38.280
<v Speaker 3>he means by this.

1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I've certainly heard this term a lot the past year.

1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Catch and release.

1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's like catching release was used to refer

1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:50.800
<v Speaker 3>sometimes to Title forty two, a policy that Trump put

1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:54.440
<v Speaker 3>in place whereby migrants would be caught and immediately turned

1:00:54.440 --> 1:00:58.560
<v Speaker 3>back into Mexico and released there, and they generally try

1:00:58.600 --> 1:01:01.000
<v Speaker 3>and cross again. And we've covered it's an entire series

1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:04.600
<v Speaker 3>I made on Title forty two. Right. Another of his uh,

1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:09.520
<v Speaker 3>his weird little bugbears is ending the visa lottery. Are

1:01:09.560 --> 1:01:12.320
<v Speaker 3>you familiar with the visa lottery? Garrison? Roughly, but not

1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:16.400
<v Speaker 3>super Okay, So the visa lottery is more properly called

1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:19.720
<v Speaker 3>something called the Diversity Visa Program. It allows for up

1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:22.680
<v Speaker 3>to fifty five thousand immigrant visas a year for individuals

1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:25.960
<v Speaker 3>from countries that are underrepresented in the US immigration system.

1:01:26.360 --> 1:01:29.960
<v Speaker 3>So it's literally there to increase diversity, right, I guess

1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:33.040
<v Speaker 3>it's d I. It's d I. He must have recorded

1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:34.680
<v Speaker 3>this before di I was a big deal because he

1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:36.520
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have that shame.

1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how much equity there is going to

1:01:39.080 --> 1:01:40.520
<v Speaker 2>be in the lottery program.

1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, you're about to find out Garrison Okay. Trump

1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:49.520
<v Speaker 3>has repeatedly suggested that he believes that this diversity visa

1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:53.280
<v Speaker 3>program consists of non US countries raffling off green cards

1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:57.080
<v Speaker 3>like you pay and then they draw your number. That

1:01:57.120 --> 1:01:59.560
<v Speaker 3>that's not how it works. It's the United States who

1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:03.200
<v Speaker 3>decides gets them. It's a computer program that selects about

1:02:03.200 --> 1:02:07.080
<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand applicants from about fifteen million. I have met

1:02:07.640 --> 1:02:10.360
<v Speaker 3>probably hundreds of people who have applied for diversity visas.

1:02:10.400 --> 1:02:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I meet them all the time every time I'm traveling

1:02:12.520 --> 1:02:18.600
<v Speaker 3>for work. Myanmar, Thailand, Iraq, Kurdistan, and Syria, like You'll

1:02:18.640 --> 1:02:21.200
<v Speaker 3>meet people from all these places who have tried to

1:02:21.440 --> 1:02:23.400
<v Speaker 3>apply for the system. Most of them end up not

1:02:23.440 --> 1:02:26.760
<v Speaker 3>getting it because the odds are very slim. Sure, when

1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:30.240
<v Speaker 3>they do get it, they then have to go through

1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:33.840
<v Speaker 3>a series of vetting processes, and then they have to

1:02:34.240 --> 1:02:36.240
<v Speaker 3>make an appointment at a consulate. One of the last

1:02:36.240 --> 1:02:38.880
<v Speaker 3>parts of the process making appoints at a consulate to

1:02:38.880 --> 1:02:44.120
<v Speaker 3>get an interview. Right, what the Trump administration did last

1:02:44.160 --> 1:02:48.280
<v Speaker 3>time was stop people from getting appointments at consulates, citing

1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:51.440
<v Speaker 3>COVID right that they couldn't with the COVID restriction to

1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:54.400
<v Speaker 3>get an appointment. That meant that de facto because you

1:02:54.520 --> 1:02:58.000
<v Speaker 3>only have seven months once you get awarded the visa

1:02:58.040 --> 1:03:01.440
<v Speaker 3>to fulfill the process us and get the paper visa

1:03:01.520 --> 1:03:04.080
<v Speaker 3>and begin your travel. Those people weren't able to get it,

1:03:04.120 --> 1:03:06.120
<v Speaker 3>and they had to go back to the start right,

1:03:06.160 --> 1:03:10.960
<v Speaker 3>which is crushing, Like, I know how much of their

1:03:11.040 --> 1:03:14.360
<v Speaker 3>money and hope people allocate to these programs and to

1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:17.760
<v Speaker 3>be told like, yeah, you got it, it's incredibly rare,

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<v Speaker 3>and then to be like, oh, actually you can't make

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<v Speaker 3>the appointment. Screw you. It's crushing. Now the Biden administration,

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<v Speaker 3>in all fairness, has restored their right to book an interview,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's moved to the bottom of the priority list.

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<v Speaker 3>So in practice it's still happening that people can be

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<v Speaker 3>they can quote unquote win the green card lottery and

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<v Speaker 3>still not get a green card. It's a complete mess,

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<v Speaker 3>and transporposal lists to entirely do away with it, this

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<v Speaker 3>would require legislation that doesn't matter. He also has a

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<v Speaker 3>little there's like a one sentence where he claims that

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<v Speaker 3>Biden's border policies are killing migrants, and weirdly, he links

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<v Speaker 3>to an NPR article about it. He's not wrong, like

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<v Speaker 3>he is absolutely not wrong. Like but but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The butt is that Donald Trump would kill a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more great. I mean yeah, I mean is are those also?

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<v Speaker 2>Are those like referring specifically to Biden stuff or like

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that like like that like Governor Abbott's doing,

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<v Speaker 2>like what.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the increase in border crossings and bordered deaths from

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty to present. Much of that is due to

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's Title forty two policy that Biden wholeheartedly supported defended

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<v Speaker 3>in court. Right, because when people were caught and then

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<v Speaker 3>released back across the border, they often they were offered

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<v Speaker 3>unlimited crossings by the people who were like helping them cross,

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<v Speaker 3>or they the facto, had unlimited chances to cross because

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<v Speaker 3>they're just being dropped back in Mexico, right, Yeah, They're

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<v Speaker 3>often they're dropped without any resources in places where they

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<v Speaker 3>have no community. So they try and cross again, and

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<v Speaker 3>they end up going to more and more remote places

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't want to get caught, right, or so

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<v Speaker 3>they end up crossing in the places where there are

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<v Speaker 3>gaps in the wall. Those tend to be very and

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<v Speaker 3>those tend to be the places where people die. So

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<v Speaker 3>you can map the deaths and you can you can

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<v Speaker 3>see this in real time happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And Trump's pretending to find this to be a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, Trump is very sad about this. He's big sad.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's gonna he's gonna make a kind of gender

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<v Speaker 3>immigration system. It's garson.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what else? It is kinder and gentler

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<v Speaker 3>than the immigration system. Well, I guess ads. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if ads might kill less people, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's really hard to say. Yeah, it's I think they

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<v Speaker 3>probably would. I think we can we can confidently say

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<v Speaker 3>now that cigarette ads are are What if it's a

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<v Speaker 3>banana advert, because then you can get into the whole

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<v Speaker 3>sort of you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well here, let's play these ads.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back. Enjoy your fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>I love call fruit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then nothing, Grow your own fruit. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>message of this podcast. And then if we didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>if we did grow our own fruit, we wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>destabilized many of the countries that these migrants are coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful Georgia, peaches.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we destabilized Georgia. A boy can dream. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's a couple of other bugbears, little sort of things

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump has. One of them is benefits for migrants. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this is something that's been hopping around the right wing

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<v Speaker 3>for a while. It's really been more sort of one

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<v Speaker 3>of their talking points in the last few months. I

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<v Speaker 3>think like since right wings stream has certainly started coming

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<v Speaker 3>to places where I volunteered on the border, I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>them talking about it, and I tried not to hear

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<v Speaker 3>them talking, So they might have been talking about it

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<v Speaker 3>for and I was just not paying attention. Just be

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<v Speaker 3>super clear, undocumented people are not eligible for most benefits.

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<v Speaker 3>Even people with legal status have a range of hurdles.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you have even if you have a green card,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of you can't yes. Yeah, And there

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<v Speaker 3>are also public charge rules, which in some cases some

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<v Speaker 3>forms of assistants might be a hurdle if you are

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<v Speaker 3>looking to change your immigration status, So even if you

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<v Speaker 3>had accepted them, that that might stop you moving along

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<v Speaker 3>the immigration pathway. That's only for things like SSI and TANF.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think we need to go into the

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<v Speaker 3>nitty gritty of it. He claims that people are coming

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<v Speaker 3>here to live off benefits he calls quote welfare and

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<v Speaker 3>a gigantic magnet drawing people from all over the world.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to come to the United States. They want

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<v Speaker 3>to feast off the sweat and savings of the American taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 3>Feasting off sweat is not a beautiful image, but well no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's He continues to claim that these migrants also take

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<v Speaker 3>American jobs right so at once claiming unemployment benefits and

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<v Speaker 3>taking American jobs. And again, like, I don't think Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump stuff has to line up for it to be dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to like inject a moment of factual analysis. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to wait at least five months after applying

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<v Speaker 3>for work permit. When you arrivee her as a refugee

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<v Speaker 3>to get a work permit. You may not apply straight away.

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<v Speaker 3>Many people wait for a year or more without the

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<v Speaker 3>right to work. Undocumented workers working under the table, a

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<v Speaker 3>hugely underpaid, very frequently abused, and the reason again where

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<v Speaker 3>your fruit is cheap. He says in his Day one

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<v Speaker 3>plan that he's going to stop migrant workers taken American

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<v Speaker 3>jobs by having like American hiring provisions for all federal agencies.

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<v Speaker 3>Federal agencies are not hiring undocumented people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's simply not happening.

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<v Speaker 3>That is just that is like, believe me, I am

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<v Speaker 3>a person who has been a migrant to this country.

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<v Speaker 3>The amount of bullshit you have to go to to

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<v Speaker 3>even do a government job like teaching is a large

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<v Speaker 3>amount of bullshit. And they absolutely are not hiring undocumented people.

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<v Speaker 3>I bring this garrison to the final pillar of the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump immigration policy and fit one garrison. I want you

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<v Speaker 3>to take a moment to listen to this clip of

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump explaining the well researched information that he uses

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<v Speaker 3>to develop his immigration policy.

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<v Speaker 6>I was thrilled to host a screening at Bedminster of

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<v Speaker 6>the important new film Sound of Freedom, about the power

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<v Speaker 6>of faith in overcoming evil, and in particular the evil

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<v Speaker 6>of child trafficking, big problem. We had it down to

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<v Speaker 6>the lowest number in many years just four years ago,

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<v Speaker 6>and now it's gone through the roof, even though the

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<v Speaker 6>fake news media has tried to ignore it. Sound of

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<v Speaker 6>Freedom has been a national sensation and a colossal success

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<v Speaker 6>at the box office.

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<v Speaker 4>Really big numbers.

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<v Speaker 6>Everyone should see it. This is a very important film

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<v Speaker 6>and very important movie, and it's a very important documentary

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<v Speaker 6>all wrapped up in one.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh wow, that's crazy, yeah film. Yeah, it's like you're

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<v Speaker 5>sliding another I there in between L and M.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard spoken around the world, and I've never heard

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<v Speaker 3>that pronounced that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Curious choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just a fascinating man.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, besides the point like most of those

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<v Speaker 2>Had A Freedom tickets were but by right wing billionaires

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<v Speaker 2>and were completely empty seats.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes on to detail the exact number of dollars

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<v Speaker 3>it took in the opening week to talk about how

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a success. Yes, decent, A decent amount of

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<v Speaker 3>his entire child drafting policy. Is him describing the film

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<v Speaker 3>The Freedom. It's incredible, like that was that was a

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<v Speaker 3>gift that I did not. This is if you read

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<v Speaker 3>the transcript, you miss out on some of these absolute

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<v Speaker 3>easter eggs Trump leaves for us.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think I saw a clip of him

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<v Speaker 2>at a rally recently where he was talking about Center

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<v Speaker 2>Freedom and he also said it like that, No, it

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<v Speaker 2>was I know what it was. It was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>David Lynch. When there was that misquote about about Lynch

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<v Speaker 2>saying like like Trump seems like like like an energetic

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<v Speaker 2>guy or something, and he's like Philim Pillim director David

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<v Speaker 2>Lynch endorsed me for president. It's like, okay, that's not whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, then he's uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's he's been saying this way for like almost

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<v Speaker 2>ten years at least, because that's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Because because that yeah, because that clip was from like

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty fifteen campaign rallies.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, it's so it's not Yeah, wow, the power of

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<v Speaker 3>simility an incredible thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>If any anyone else, anyone we could do like the

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<v Speaker 3>NPR thing, if you if they said film where you

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<v Speaker 3>come from?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone else, says Phil, I really don't

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<v Speaker 2>think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no, there's not a Yeah, he just comes

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<v Speaker 3>up with this stuff from a blank slate. Well that's cool, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>anyone else is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uh, this is all of this video is called

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<v Speaker 2>like Trump calls for a death penalty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Laughing and we're laughing about pronunciation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, unfortunately, Garrison, it's time to stop laughing because yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, I'm going to outline a death penalty thing. Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>I will urge Congress to ensure that anyone caught trafficking

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<v Speaker 3>children across our border receives the death penalty immediately. And

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<v Speaker 3>that includes also for women, because women, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>are number one in trafficking children are actually number two.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the sentence which you could pick apart for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. What does he mean by trafficking That is

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<v Speaker 3>extremely unclear. He seems to mean the arrival of people

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<v Speaker 3>in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, that's kind of what it sounds like. Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like it just means crossing the border.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, he well because he he also says, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>I will use Title forty two to end the child

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<v Speaker 3>trafficking crisis by returning all traffic children to their families

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<v Speaker 3>in their home countries and without delay. I made an

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<v Speaker 3>entire fucking series on Title forty two. I recorded it

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<v Speaker 3>in a week, and then I wrote it in a week,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we edited it. And it has destroyed me

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<v Speaker 3>and I have never recovered. Title forty two does absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>nothing about child trafficking. Title forty two returns all migrants

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<v Speaker 3>or anyone crossing the border between ports of entry to Mexico,

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<v Speaker 3>which suggests that he sees all these people as trafficked, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It also absolutely does not reunite children with their families.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the administration that separated families at the border

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<v Speaker 3>and has in some cases been unable to find the

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<v Speaker 3>parents of the children. It's separated. Friends of mine have

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<v Speaker 3>worked for a very long time, very hard, absolutely not

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<v Speaker 3>for the Trump administration, trying to find those people's families.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's really interesting that he is talking about Title

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<v Speaker 3>forty two again. Title forty two, if you're not familiar,

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<v Speaker 3>as a public health law, right, it's to stop the

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<v Speaker 3>introduction of infectious disease into United States. It's a very

1:14:08.200 --> 1:14:12.360
<v Speaker 3>old law that was initially designed around tuberculosis. So, and

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<v Speaker 3>we know that the Trump administration planned to use Title

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<v Speaker 3>forty two before coronavirus was a Coronavirus is already a

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<v Speaker 3>thing before COVID nineteen with the thing right, So he's

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<v Speaker 3>just being completely open about his idea to manipulate public

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<v Speaker 3>health law in a way that allows him to do

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<v Speaker 3>things immigration law would not allow him to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>He also finishes up, I guess by making his claim

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<v Speaker 3>once again he goes back to the well that is

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<v Speaker 3>the fucking border war. Right. I'm just going to quote here.

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<v Speaker 3>We created the most secure border in US history, dealing

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<v Speaker 3>a major blow to the cartels in traffickers. We built

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of miles of war, we renovated hundreds of miles

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<v Speaker 3>of war, we built hundreds of miles of war. We

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<v Speaker 3>never had anything like it. And then I got Mexico

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<v Speaker 3>free of charge to give us twenty eight thousand soldiers

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<v Speaker 3>to protect us from people coming into our country illegally.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not going to surprise anyone that this is bullshit, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump first made this hundreds of miles of war claim

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<v Speaker 3>in a debate with Biden. I filed a foyer for

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<v Speaker 3>a new war building that night. The best estimate I

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<v Speaker 3>can come up with, based on the documents I got

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<v Speaker 3>from Foyer and from other people's foyers, is that they

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<v Speaker 3>built about eighty five miles of new war. They did

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<v Speaker 3>replace several hundred miles of war, and in some cases

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<v Speaker 3>that went from a pretty insignificant barrier to a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>large one. The twenty eight thousand soldier thing this will

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<v Speaker 3>shock you was also not true. There was an agreement

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<v Speaker 3>at twenty nineteen with Mexico that didn't list a specific

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<v Speaker 3>number of troops, but it did say that most of

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<v Speaker 3>them will be in the southern half of the country

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<v Speaker 3>and Mexico's border with Guatemala. He then goes on just

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<v Speaker 3>a complete tangent where he says I will rage war

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<v Speaker 3>on the cartels, just as I destroyed the ISIS Caliphate

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent gone, one hundred percent destroyed.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, that's why that in Russia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, it's all gone. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>ISIS car bombed the street that I stayed on a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks after I left in October.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, this is why the ISIS press people are like

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<v Speaker 2>begging people to like to believe that ISIS is like

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<v Speaker 2>still a thing. They're like, no, please, We're still real,

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<v Speaker 2>We're still around, please, I'm a real boy. Yeah exactly, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, the Pinocchio Isis. That'll be a highly entertaining film. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to finish up by saying here that, like,

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<v Speaker 3>as we saw in Donald Trump's first term, his malice

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<v Speaker 3>is really only matched by his incompetence, and his incompetence

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<v Speaker 3>at the border is much less important. I guess He's

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<v Speaker 3>been able to be more competent at the border than

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<v Speaker 3>he has been anywhere else in enacting his policies. He

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<v Speaker 3>managed to do plenty of things in his first term

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<v Speaker 3>that are unconstitutional, because the system only really works when

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<v Speaker 3>the people playing the game agree that the rules of

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<v Speaker 3>the game are more important than the outcome, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>not the case with Donald Trump, Right. We know that

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that he dedicated so much of his agenda

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<v Speaker 3>forty seven pages to migration tells us that peddling great

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<v Speaker 3>replacement theories is going to be a major part of

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<v Speaker 3>his campaign and a major part of his second term

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<v Speaker 3>if he gets one. The sources that he links to

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<v Speaker 3>here tell us that he's as addicted to right wing

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<v Speaker 3>rage bait as he ever was, and that he's still

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<v Speaker 3>surrounded by cranks and crackpots with fringe on the flag

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<v Speaker 3>level conspiracy theories. None of this stuff, none of my

1:17:27.640 --> 1:17:30.920
<v Speaker 3>suggestions that what he's saying is false or illegal or

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<v Speaker 3>impossible under the constitution mean that it's not dangerous.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have told you in twenty sixteen that it

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<v Speaker 3>was illegal to bounce people back to Mexico without hearing

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<v Speaker 3>their asylum claims, because it is. But we had it

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<v Speaker 3>under a democratic president for three years. We had it

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<v Speaker 3>under Trump for a year. Right, it still happened. He

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<v Speaker 3>succeeded in moving the border and migration debate massively to

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<v Speaker 3>the right, and we have Biden advocating for things that

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<v Speaker 3>would not have flown like that. Clinton would have been

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<v Speaker 3>a ghast at right, and just by Trump making this

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<v Speaker 3>an issue, even if he doesn't get elected in November,

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<v Speaker 3>Biden's going to try and fight him on this by

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<v Speaker 3>claiming that he too is tough on the border, he

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<v Speaker 3>too is tough on these fictional things like the taking

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<v Speaker 3>of American jobs or migrants claiming public benefits or birthright

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<v Speaker 3>citizenship right that Biden has completely failed to plow his

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<v Speaker 3>own path on this, and he said he's entirely reactive

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<v Speaker 3>to Trump. So I think I guess the big take

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<v Speaker 3>home here is that whatever happens in November, things that

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<v Speaker 3>the border are going to be terrible, just like they're

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<v Speaker 3>terrible now.

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<v Speaker 2>And and you can't just rely on politicians to do

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<v Speaker 2>things at the border, like there's actually like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>just push it away, be like, oh, now that so

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<v Speaker 2>and so is in charge, now I don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>think about It'd be like, well.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the whole fucking problem, right. The reason that we

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<v Speaker 3>are so broke, the reason that I personally am so

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<v Speaker 3>broken and my truck is falling apart, is that that

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<v Speaker 3>is what people are doing. At least with Trump. We

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<v Speaker 3>got money in twenty eighteen when he held the MI

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<v Speaker 3>caravan at the border in Tijuana. My friends and I

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<v Speaker 3>were there doing mutual aid, and we did just what

1:19:08.120 --> 1:19:10.519
<v Speaker 3>we're doing now in a cumba right. We fed people,

1:19:10.520 --> 1:19:12.280
<v Speaker 3>we bought them blankets, we took care of them, and

1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:15.080
<v Speaker 3>we stole them from dying. But at least libs sent

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<v Speaker 3>us money, like we had tons of money. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>spending one thousand dollars on soft toys in the Costco

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<v Speaker 3>in Tijuana. That doesn't happen anymore because people think that

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<v Speaker 3>they voted for the kind, gentle, nice guy. And I guess, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I want people to look at this with the understanding

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<v Speaker 3>that whatever happens at the ballot box, like you need

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<v Speaker 3>to help with a board it because neither of these

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<v Speaker 3>politicians are going to That's my speech. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>listening to our podcast. Anything else, Garrison.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, But we will be back tomorrow with more exciting,

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<v Speaker 2>exciting news about Yeah, what are we looking about sell

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<v Speaker 2>an agenda either, Actually I don't know because we have

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<v Speaker 2>not planned it out that far ahead. Throughout the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the week, we'll be talking about Trump's plans for

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<v Speaker 2>handling the gender question, trump declaring war on cartels, and

1:20:05.920 --> 1:20:13.200
<v Speaker 2>his plans to fix the pharmaceutical industry. So all stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 7>Welcome zacodapp gear podcast where the future president wants us

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<v Speaker 7>to die and the current president doesn't give a shit.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm your host Miah Wong with me as Garrison.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so we're covering another aspect of Trump's agenda forty seven.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, we're looking at President Trump's plan to protect

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<v Speaker 7>children from left wing gender insanity. Now, despite that title,

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<v Speaker 7>this is the least trumpy of all of these. He

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<v Speaker 7>is just phoning this one the fucking It's the most

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<v Speaker 7>hymn reading off a teleprompter I've ever seen in any

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<v Speaker 7>speech he's ever given.

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<v Speaker 2>Because historically he's never cared about this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just having to do it now to appease the

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<v Speaker 2>people he needs to get votes from. But like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Trump's stances on transgender people historically, however,

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<v Speaker 2>not good. They're not like a genocidyl. And you can

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<v Speaker 2>really tell his heart, isn't it. It's in some of

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<v Speaker 2>these he I.

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<v Speaker 7>Mean, legitimately, he sounds like so someone doing an ad

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<v Speaker 7>read for a Raige Shadow Legend.

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<v Speaker 4>Sponsorship, Like it's it's he's so bored.

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<v Speaker 7>There's like one It's funny because you can tell this

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<v Speaker 7>is something I started happening in the middle of the administration.

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<v Speaker 7>Was you could tell when his speech writers were just

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<v Speaker 7>writing in a Trump word for him to say so

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<v Speaker 7>it would look less like he was And they're doing

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<v Speaker 7>it in this one. There's only like one genuinely trumpy

1:21:48.880 --> 1:21:53.080
<v Speaker 7>thing in this Unfortunately, it all fucking sucks ass, It's

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<v Speaker 7>quite bleak. So let's let's get into what exactly is

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<v Speaker 7>in this. I would love to hear Trump's plan for

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<v Speaker 7>the true genders. Yeah, so first he wants to end

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<v Speaker 7>Biden's executive order on gender affirming care. Now you might

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<v Speaker 7>be asking, wait, meal.

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<v Speaker 4>What the fu?

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<v Speaker 8>Wait what executive what executive order? I looked this up too,

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<v Speaker 8>because I was like, wait, what is he talking about?

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<v Speaker 8>So apparently, back in twenty twenty two, Biden issued a

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<v Speaker 8>series of executive orders that were supposed to protect the

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<v Speaker 8>rights of trans kids to get gender affirming care.

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<v Speaker 2>So that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, no, now these weren't. Yeah, these were mostly

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<v Speaker 7>stunningly ineffective. Well let's let's I'm going to quote from

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<v Speaker 7>I finally found the actual executive which is disturbingly hard

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<v Speaker 7>to find. The actual text of because everyone just wanted

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<v Speaker 7>you to read the press release, because what's actually in

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<v Speaker 7>it is, okay, the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall,

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<v Speaker 7>as appropriate and consistent with applicable law, used the Department

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<v Speaker 7>of Health and Human Services authority to project LGBTQI plus

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<v Speaker 7>individuals access to medically necessary care from harmful state and

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<v Speaker 7>local laws and practices. And I'll promote the adoption of

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<v Speaker 7>promising policies and practices to support health equity, including in

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<v Speaker 7>the area of mental health for LGBTQI youth and adults.

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<v Speaker 7>Within two hundred days of this order, the Secretary of

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<v Speaker 7>HHS SE develop and release sample policies for states to

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<v Speaker 7>safeguard and expand access to health care for LGBTQI individuals

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<v Speaker 7>and their families, including mental health care services. Now, let's

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<v Speaker 7>pull out for one second to try to figure out

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<v Speaker 7>what does that actually do. So what is being done there.

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<v Speaker 7>The thing that is being commanded is that the Department

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<v Speaker 7>of Health and Human Services make sample guidelines for state.

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<v Speaker 7>And then there's another part where they were talking about

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<v Speaker 7>how they were going to form a committee to study

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<v Speaker 7>trans mental health care. Uh huh, so none of this

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<v Speaker 7>did shit right, But this is the first thing that

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<v Speaker 7>Trump's like, we're going to overturn this. I guess the

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<v Speaker 7>actual substantive shift here is and we'll get to this

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<v Speaker 7>in a bit. This didn't do anything. This was just

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<v Speaker 7>a pr op he does. And this is funny because

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<v Speaker 7>he does a series of these things every single trans

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<v Speaker 7>day of visibility, and then nothing ever happens because ye

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<v Speaker 7>as joke.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had like so many states since twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>completely restrict healthcare for trans people under the age of eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've not heard of a single instance where the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government has intervened to to help to help a

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<v Speaker 2>kid get puberty blockers in in a state like where

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<v Speaker 2>they passed these sorts of bills.

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<v Speaker 7>I will say this, The Justice Department has done lawsuits, sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think they won like one of them. So

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<v Speaker 7>that's not literally nothing, it's just mostly nothing like And

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<v Speaker 7>then this is the thing. It's coming through the judiciary,

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<v Speaker 7>not through the federal bureaucracy. And that's a point of

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<v Speaker 7>contrast that I want to get to because Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and this is something that's that's always been true about

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<v Speaker 7>sort of the use of executive power by democratic versus

1:24:59.280 --> 1:25:03.559
<v Speaker 7>Republican presidents, right, sure, you know there are Like the

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<v Speaker 7>Democrats sometimes do use like massive executive power overreach, things like,

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<v Speaker 7>for example, Obama's claimed to have the legal authority to

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<v Speaker 7>kill any man, woman, or child moment they self off

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<v Speaker 7>the US or regardless of citizenship status, the thing that

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<v Speaker 7>he used to kill a sixteen year old American citizen

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<v Speaker 7>in Yemen, So that he does that sometimes, right, But

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<v Speaker 7>they don't do anything useful with it. And now let's

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<v Speaker 7>get to what Trump is going to do with this quote.

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<v Speaker 7>Sign a new executive order instructing every federal agency to

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<v Speaker 7>cease all programs to promote the concept of sex and

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<v Speaker 7>gender and transition at any age. Ask Congress to permanently

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<v Speaker 7>stop federal taxpayer dollars from being used to promote or

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<v Speaker 7>pay for these procedures. Okay, so that's bad. What exactly

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<v Speaker 7>this does is kind of murky. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 7>about planned parenthood in a second, because there's another one

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<v Speaker 7>of these proposals that's a lot worse for plant parenthood, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that'd be going after some level of like

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<v Speaker 2>government insurance. If you're trying to get medical care paid

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<v Speaker 2>for if you have government insurance, I guess that'd be

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<v Speaker 2>what that's trying to target.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think there's like two things.

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<v Speaker 7>One and I think this is the main target is well,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, it's sort of unclear, but the two

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<v Speaker 7>main targets I think are any kind of federal education

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<v Speaker 7>program that talks about queer people. Sure, and then the

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<v Speaker 7>second one. Yeah, it's like if you're in the military,

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<v Speaker 7>you won't be able to transition anymore because or if

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<v Speaker 7>and this is actually a pretty big deal because there

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<v Speaker 7>are a lot of federal employees. The federal employees health

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<v Speaker 7>insurance would no longer cover any gender for macare. And

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<v Speaker 7>this is for everyone, right because it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not Unfortunately a lot of transgender employees at the dot yep.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's very bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Why those drones?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh god, oh you meant oh the you had DoD, Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>the department, But no, you said do two probably a

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<v Speaker 7>transportation I was like, well, yeah, that too.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a bunch of well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because yes, I meant, I meant the DoD.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no, you know, it's bad. There's an open question

1:27:11.160 --> 1:27:16.600
<v Speaker 7>here about how exactly this works. So one question that

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<v Speaker 7>I'm genuinely not sure about. There's a possibility this works

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<v Speaker 7>like abortion funding where I So federal money can't go

1:27:22.800 --> 1:27:26.240
<v Speaker 7>to promoting abortions. I think there's some very weird stuff

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<v Speaker 7>with U said money overseas, So sometimes happens, but I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know someone I'm not I'm not a USCID expert.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, so for example, you so if you

1:27:37.720 --> 1:27:40.599
<v Speaker 7>are a clinic that does abortions, right, you can take

1:27:40.640 --> 1:27:42.720
<v Speaker 7>federal money. You just can't use the federal money for

1:27:42.800 --> 1:27:46.960
<v Speaker 7>the abortions. So it's possible that you know, for example,

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<v Speaker 7>so one of the one of the the influm consent

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<v Speaker 7>clinics in Chicago takes federal money for HIV treatment. Under

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<v Speaker 7>this wording, it seems like they could still get federal

1:27:55.400 --> 1:27:58.120
<v Speaker 7>funding for that, but they couldn't take any money for

1:27:58.160 --> 1:28:01.280
<v Speaker 7>gender firming care. But also so Congress could just pass

1:28:01.320 --> 1:28:03.840
<v Speaker 7>a bill that stops I'm pretty sure it could pass

1:28:03.840 --> 1:28:05.880
<v Speaker 7>a bill that stops all funding for anyone who does this.

1:28:06.560 --> 1:28:09.759
<v Speaker 7>So you know, this is something that's kind of interesting

1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:13.559
<v Speaker 7>about these is that this stuff is all very very bad.

1:28:13.760 --> 1:28:16.360
<v Speaker 4>It's also not quite.

1:28:16.360 --> 1:28:20.280
<v Speaker 7>The maximalist genocidal policy yet, I think in large part

1:28:20.280 --> 1:28:24.040
<v Speaker 7>because they haven't taken power and because the groups who

1:28:24.080 --> 1:28:26.800
<v Speaker 7>are like pushing this stuff This is actually kind of

1:28:26.800 --> 1:28:30.559
<v Speaker 7>an older this. This is from February twenty twenty three,

1:28:31.400 --> 1:28:34.760
<v Speaker 7>So okay, it's actually a lot older than a lot

1:28:34.800 --> 1:28:38.280
<v Speaker 7>of the other stuff here. And even even back like

1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:41.080
<v Speaker 7>in twenty twenty three, the beginning of the year, stuff

1:28:41.160 --> 1:28:42.080
<v Speaker 7>was less radical than.

1:28:42.040 --> 1:28:42.559
<v Speaker 4>It is now.

1:28:42.880 --> 1:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was before the big we must eliminate transgenderism.

1:28:47.439 --> 1:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah thing that started with the Daily Wire, and then

1:28:50.720 --> 1:28:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Trump mirrored some of that rhetoric in his like a

1:28:52.880 --> 1:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>seapack talk from that spring. Yeah, it was kind of

1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:58.120
<v Speaker 2>a ramp up like on some of like the quote

1:28:58.160 --> 1:29:02.120
<v Speaker 2>unquote transgender ism rhetoric really was getting more popular on

1:29:02.160 --> 1:29:06.080
<v Speaker 2>that time. The kind of groomer rhetoric from the year previous,

1:29:06.080 --> 1:29:08.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two is starting to kind of fade away,

1:29:08.600 --> 1:29:10.360
<v Speaker 2>and they were finding a new thing to replace it.

1:29:11.400 --> 1:29:11.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:29:11.720 --> 1:29:14.679
<v Speaker 7>So there's a good, just decent chance that this stuff

1:29:14.720 --> 1:29:17.000
<v Speaker 7>is all actually much worse when it gets implanted. That's

1:29:17.160 --> 1:29:19.559
<v Speaker 7>the way it's written right now, as best as I

1:29:19.560 --> 1:29:23.559
<v Speaker 7>can tell. So the third one, and this one is

1:29:23.920 --> 1:29:28.679
<v Speaker 7>a fiasco. Any hospital or healthcare provider who either gives

1:29:28.760 --> 1:29:31.960
<v Speaker 7>up puberty blockers or does genderfirming surgery for miners, or

1:29:31.960 --> 1:29:35.519
<v Speaker 7>gives hormones to miners can't accept Medicare or Medicaid, they

1:29:35.560 --> 1:29:39.720
<v Speaker 7>get knocked off of the approved list. Okay, so that

1:29:40.080 --> 1:29:43.240
<v Speaker 7>is a huge deal because that immediately knocks out planned parenthood.

1:29:43.439 --> 1:29:44.439
<v Speaker 4>Who you plan pair?

1:29:44.479 --> 1:29:46.760
<v Speaker 7>Who gets this like Sophie's choice thing of either you

1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:50.439
<v Speaker 7>don't provide puberty blockers like you, you don't provide gender

1:29:50.479 --> 1:29:54.439
<v Speaker 7>firming care of either like either sort of hormones or

1:29:54.479 --> 1:29:59.080
<v Speaker 7>puberty blockers to kids, or you lose every single person

1:29:59.120 --> 1:30:03.200
<v Speaker 7>who uses Medicare Medicaid. And that's a lot of people.

1:30:03.320 --> 1:30:05.840
<v Speaker 7>That's like I've seen numbers that suggest it's like forty

1:30:05.880 --> 1:30:11.919
<v Speaker 7>percent of people who use Planned parenthood use particularly Medicare,

1:30:12.040 --> 1:30:15.720
<v Speaker 7>And this is a complete fiasco.

1:30:16.080 --> 1:30:19.519
<v Speaker 2>I also wonder how this would impact like cis, children

1:30:19.600 --> 1:30:22.759
<v Speaker 2>who need to be put on puberty blockers, because people

1:30:22.800 --> 1:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>forget that, like puberty blockers have been a thing for

1:30:26.320 --> 1:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>like decades and decades that are like well proven to

1:30:29.000 --> 1:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>be safe and effective for delaying puberty. It does not

1:30:32.520 --> 1:30:35.800
<v Speaker 2>stop puberty from happening altogether. It does not cast straight

1:30:35.920 --> 1:30:38.560
<v Speaker 2>you permanently or in any of these kind of wild claims.

1:30:39.000 --> 1:30:39.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:30:39.640 --> 1:30:41.720
<v Speaker 7>Well, and the stuff that's weird here too is like

1:30:42.320 --> 1:30:46.880
<v Speaker 7>it's the language they're using is really inflammatory shit, So

1:30:46.920 --> 1:30:49.400
<v Speaker 7>it's actually deeply unclear what the fuck they're talking about.

1:30:50.000 --> 1:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, and I've read a lot of these

1:30:52.160 --> 1:30:55.240
<v Speaker 2>sorts of bills, even like the Arkansas bill targeting IVF.

1:30:56.360 --> 1:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>When these politicians are questioned about some of the language

1:30:59.160 --> 1:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>that would, ultimately, if written and acted upon as written,

1:31:03.240 --> 1:31:05.639
<v Speaker 2>would like block a whole bunch of regular medical procedures

1:31:05.680 --> 1:31:08.320
<v Speaker 2>from happening, they're often confused about why they're being asked

1:31:08.320 --> 1:31:10.639
<v Speaker 2>about this because they're like, no, obviously things will continue

1:31:10.640 --> 1:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>on as normal, and if we have to amend the

1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:16.800
<v Speaker 2>bill to like change this one little thing, then we'll

1:31:16.840 --> 1:31:18.960
<v Speaker 2>do that. They don't actually think about all the little

1:31:19.000 --> 1:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>tiny ways that this will also just like interferes with

1:31:21.280 --> 1:31:25.960
<v Speaker 2>like regular medical science. Yeah, and they just need digital

1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:28.280
<v Speaker 2>care because they know it's because they're never in a

1:31:28.320 --> 1:31:30.800
<v Speaker 2>prosecute for stuff like that. It just isn't it. They're

1:31:30.840 --> 1:31:33.439
<v Speaker 2>genuinely not thinking about those other use cases at all.

1:31:35.080 --> 1:31:37.879
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And like I'm going to read the first sentence

1:31:38.160 --> 1:31:39.920
<v Speaker 7>the first one of these, like the text of it

1:31:40.439 --> 1:31:44.000
<v Speaker 7>revoke Joe Biden's cruel policies on so called gender affirming

1:31:44.120 --> 1:31:47.559
<v Speaker 7>care and quotes a process that includes giving kids puberty blockers,

1:31:47.720 --> 1:31:51.679
<v Speaker 7>mutating their physical appearance, and ultimately performing surgery on minor children.

1:31:51.720 --> 1:31:57.320
<v Speaker 7>So that's like not real, that's not what gender affirming

1:31:57.360 --> 1:32:01.240
<v Speaker 7>care is. So but the thing is right, it's fucking

1:32:01.280 --> 1:32:05.559
<v Speaker 7>impossible to tell whether this would result in them actually

1:32:05.600 --> 1:32:09.160
<v Speaker 7>banning all gender affirming care whatsoever, which includes other stuff

1:32:09.160 --> 1:32:11.240
<v Speaker 7>as well, or if it's just a more limited ban

1:32:11.960 --> 1:32:15.080
<v Speaker 7>like who the fuck knows, because they're not being specific

1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:17.880
<v Speaker 7>at all, so this can mutate into a whole bunch

1:32:17.960 --> 1:32:21.080
<v Speaker 7>of stuff. One of the other immediate sort of impacts

1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:25.479
<v Speaker 7>of banning, particularly of banning medicaid, is that like there's

1:32:25.520 --> 1:32:28.160
<v Speaker 7>a lot of trans people on it, because trans people

1:32:28.240 --> 1:32:31.080
<v Speaker 7>are significantly poorer than SIS people. So I mean, just

1:32:31.080 --> 1:32:33.680
<v Speaker 7>just to take like a random statistic op so, the

1:32:33.720 --> 1:32:35.840
<v Speaker 7>unemployment rate right now in the US is three point

1:32:35.880 --> 1:32:38.880
<v Speaker 7>eight percent. The unemployment rate for trans people is eighteen percent,

1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:42.560
<v Speaker 7>which is nineteen thirty five great depression levels of unemployment.

1:32:43.840 --> 1:32:46.559
<v Speaker 7>So you know, if you're a transperson out there and

1:32:46.600 --> 1:32:48.760
<v Speaker 7>you're listening to people tell you how great the economy is,

1:32:48.800 --> 1:32:50.280
<v Speaker 7>and you're like, what the fuck is going on, the

1:32:50.320 --> 1:32:52.040
<v Speaker 7>answer is that you literally do not live in the

1:32:52.080 --> 1:32:54.160
<v Speaker 7>same world as the cist people who are telling you this.

1:32:54.320 --> 1:32:59.679
<v Speaker 7>You live the nineteen nineteen thirty five Great Depression. So yeah,

1:32:59.720 --> 1:33:02.080
<v Speaker 7>and you know, so, so cutting off one of the

1:33:02.120 --> 1:33:05.400
<v Speaker 7>ways that people can access medical care if they you know,

1:33:05.479 --> 1:33:07.280
<v Speaker 7>can't afford it is a fucking disaster.

1:33:08.040 --> 1:33:13.519
<v Speaker 4>This is going to I don't like, presumably if this.

1:33:13.520 --> 1:33:15.560
<v Speaker 7>Goes through with, the only way that you're going to

1:33:15.600 --> 1:33:18.439
<v Speaker 7>be able to get like gender affirming care if you're

1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:21.080
<v Speaker 7>a kid is by having rich parents and going to

1:33:21.280 --> 1:33:26.880
<v Speaker 7>like some kind of clinic that doesn't take Medicaid Medicare Medicaid. Yeah,

1:33:26.960 --> 1:33:29.920
<v Speaker 7>so you know what else doesn't take Medicare Medicaid?

1:33:30.000 --> 1:33:32.680
<v Speaker 4>Actually who knows? I don't know.

1:33:32.800 --> 1:33:48.040
<v Speaker 7>Look, it's a bad time to ad pivots. Okay, so

1:33:48.120 --> 1:33:51.120
<v Speaker 7>we're back, So okay, now, having gone into all of

1:33:51.160 --> 1:33:55.679
<v Speaker 7>that detail, Number four is just quote pass a law

1:33:55.760 --> 1:33:58.799
<v Speaker 7>prohibiting child sexual mutilation in all fifty states.

1:33:59.800 --> 1:34:02.200
<v Speaker 2>So this is see, this is this is a great

1:34:02.200 --> 1:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>example of the thing I was just talking about, how like, theoretically,

1:34:05.280 --> 1:34:07.080
<v Speaker 2>if one was as smart ass, you'd be like, oh,

1:34:07.200 --> 1:34:10.040
<v Speaker 2>so you're banning circumcision. You're like, no, of course not,

1:34:10.160 --> 1:34:12.720
<v Speaker 2>because they're they're not thinking about this sort of thing.

1:34:13.000 --> 1:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>This is this is like yeah, no, it's it's just yeah,

1:34:17.120 --> 1:34:21.799
<v Speaker 2>trans kids can't get which also like almost never happens.

1:34:21.800 --> 1:34:23.960
<v Speaker 2>There may be like one or two very bizarre like

1:34:24.240 --> 1:34:26.479
<v Speaker 2>outliers where someone has gone through extensive therapy from a

1:34:26.520 --> 1:34:29.320
<v Speaker 2>very young age that might result in them receiving such

1:34:29.360 --> 1:34:32.840
<v Speaker 2>surgery at like sixteen or seventeen, but that is such

1:34:32.880 --> 1:34:37.280
<v Speaker 2>a minuscule amount that that simply just does not happen. Yeah,

1:34:37.439 --> 1:34:40.720
<v Speaker 2>in any real statistical notion, you know.

1:34:40.760 --> 1:34:41.880
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, but this is one of these things.

1:34:41.880 --> 1:34:43.880
<v Speaker 7>It's hard because it's like, okay, so like what are

1:34:43.880 --> 1:34:47.120
<v Speaker 7>they actually what are they talking about?

1:34:47.160 --> 1:34:49.000
<v Speaker 4>And the answer is who the fuck knows.

1:34:48.760 --> 1:34:50.240
<v Speaker 2>This cure they think this is happening?

1:34:50.760 --> 1:34:52.000
<v Speaker 4>Well no, But but also.

1:34:51.840 --> 1:34:54.000
<v Speaker 7>Like because like the you know, one of the things

1:34:54.040 --> 1:34:55.559
<v Speaker 7>that they do here, right is they'll they'll talk about

1:34:55.560 --> 1:34:58.200
<v Speaker 7>female like they'll talk about like general and mutilations like whatever.

1:34:58.600 --> 1:35:01.440
<v Speaker 7>But they're also include in a like puberty blockers.

1:35:01.760 --> 1:35:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course because because to them, peuty blockers are

1:35:04.680 --> 1:35:06.759
<v Speaker 2>like a chemical castration device.

1:35:07.320 --> 1:35:11.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and it's all you know, this is one of

1:35:11.360 --> 1:35:14.120
<v Speaker 7>these things. But you know, but the thing I should

1:35:14.160 --> 1:35:18.960
<v Speaker 7>mention about this one that is, I don't know. It's

1:35:18.960 --> 1:35:21.560
<v Speaker 7>something I'm short of resident to talk about because I

1:35:21.560 --> 1:35:23.920
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, like, I don't like I'm torn between

1:35:23.960 --> 1:35:26.080
<v Speaker 7>wanting to spread panic and wanting to be like, well,

1:35:26.080 --> 1:35:29.160
<v Speaker 7>this is probably what's going to happen. But there's a

1:35:29.240 --> 1:35:31.840
<v Speaker 7>non zero chance that with how far this stuff has gone,

1:35:31.920 --> 1:35:34.680
<v Speaker 7>they Republicans take the House in the Senate, that this

1:35:34.800 --> 1:35:38.160
<v Speaker 7>bill turns into just a full band, because that's what's

1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:40.960
<v Speaker 7>being pushed for now by the sort of constituencies that

1:35:41.000 --> 1:35:42.800
<v Speaker 7>this stuff is for. It's just like a full band

1:35:42.840 --> 1:35:46.120
<v Speaker 7>and all care. It's way less popular than even the

1:35:46.160 --> 1:35:50.240
<v Speaker 7>anti TRANSCITD stuff, which is not very popular. But on

1:35:50.280 --> 1:35:52.439
<v Speaker 7>the other hand, like this is I mean, this entire

1:35:52.640 --> 1:35:56.320
<v Speaker 7>thing is just Trump sort of like being like yeah,

1:35:56.400 --> 1:36:01.920
<v Speaker 7>sure whatever to these like these weird anti transdiptions.

1:36:02.800 --> 1:36:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there certainly are a percentage of Republican politicians and

1:36:06.760 --> 1:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>like right wing influencers who do want some of these

1:36:09.360 --> 1:36:13.479
<v Speaker 2>bills to expand up to just including everyone or everyone

1:36:13.520 --> 1:36:17.280
<v Speaker 2>under the edge of twenty five. As as we've mentioned before,

1:36:17.600 --> 1:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I still don't think there's it's it's it's too far

1:36:20.360 --> 1:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>off to say whether or not this is like something

1:36:24.360 --> 1:36:27.200
<v Speaker 2>to actually like worry about in any in any real sense.

1:36:27.240 --> 1:36:29.719
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's too murky.

1:36:30.640 --> 1:36:30.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:36:30.920 --> 1:36:32.960
<v Speaker 7>But on the other hand, he is he is very

1:36:32.960 --> 1:36:37.080
<v Speaker 7>explicit on just banning all banning care for minors. Like

1:36:37.120 --> 1:36:39.960
<v Speaker 7>that's this thing that he's very like, that's just in

1:36:40.040 --> 1:36:40.559
<v Speaker 7>the text.

1:36:40.640 --> 1:36:40.800
<v Speaker 5>Right.

1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:43.640
<v Speaker 7>The next one is one of the this is like

1:36:43.720 --> 1:36:47.639
<v Speaker 7>one of the sort of almost every bill that gets

1:36:47.680 --> 1:36:52.000
<v Speaker 7>passed by a state legislature now has this provision that

1:36:52.360 --> 1:36:55.599
<v Speaker 7>creates like quote the private right of action for victims

1:36:55.640 --> 1:36:57.920
<v Speaker 7>to sue doctors for anyone who got any kind of

1:36:57.920 --> 1:36:59.160
<v Speaker 7>gender for mccare as a minor.

1:36:59.280 --> 1:37:01.519
<v Speaker 4>This is We've talked about this on the show before.

1:37:01.560 --> 1:37:03.080
<v Speaker 4>This is this is you know, this is.

1:37:03.000 --> 1:37:06.439
<v Speaker 7>A thing that lets d transgrifters who think that God

1:37:06.520 --> 1:37:09.519
<v Speaker 7>talks to them like try to go and destroy like

1:37:09.640 --> 1:37:13.439
<v Speaker 7>doctors and clinics. Yeah, it's one of the tactics that

1:37:13.479 --> 1:37:16.479
<v Speaker 7>they use to try to like run people who they

1:37:16.479 --> 1:37:21.280
<v Speaker 7>can't otherwise go after legally out of existence. So you know,

1:37:21.360 --> 1:37:25.479
<v Speaker 7>that's like a that's just a sort of normal, classic

1:37:26.160 --> 1:37:30.800
<v Speaker 7>anti trans thing that they want to bring to And well,

1:37:31.160 --> 1:37:32.760
<v Speaker 7>I guess the other important part of it is is

1:37:33.439 --> 1:37:36.360
<v Speaker 7>having this on a national level, lets them target clinics

1:37:36.560 --> 1:37:39.640
<v Speaker 7>in like blue states that they otherwise normally wouldn't be

1:37:39.680 --> 1:37:40.040
<v Speaker 7>able to.

1:37:40.439 --> 1:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, that's the big goal of a lot

1:37:42.000 --> 1:37:44.920
<v Speaker 2>of this federal stuff is being able to actually have

1:37:44.960 --> 1:37:48.679
<v Speaker 2>it effect, like in New York, California, the other half

1:37:48.760 --> 1:37:52.519
<v Speaker 2>of the country. Whereas because right wing governors are doing

1:37:52.600 --> 1:37:54.439
<v Speaker 2>all this sort of stuff in a lot of the

1:37:54.479 --> 1:37:57.120
<v Speaker 2>red states, but that is not satisfying to a lot

1:37:57.120 --> 1:37:59.439
<v Speaker 2>of these people. They the reason why this is being

1:37:59.479 --> 1:38:01.320
<v Speaker 2>pushed on off level is to try to put as

1:38:01.439 --> 1:38:05.320
<v Speaker 2>much pressure on blue states as they can, just out

1:38:05.360 --> 1:38:08.559
<v Speaker 2>of the desire for sheer human misery. Yep.

1:38:09.080 --> 1:38:11.400
<v Speaker 7>Now speaking of the desire for human misery. So there

1:38:11.800 --> 1:38:14.200
<v Speaker 7>is just a there is one very trump one that

1:38:14.280 --> 1:38:18.200
<v Speaker 7>I've actually haven't seen before, quote direct the Department of

1:38:18.320 --> 1:38:21.320
<v Speaker 7>Justice to investigate big pharma and the big hospital networks

1:38:21.360 --> 1:38:25.320
<v Speaker 7>to determine whether they deliberately covered up horrific long term

1:38:25.360 --> 1:38:28.160
<v Speaker 7>side effects of quote sex transitions to get rich at

1:38:28.160 --> 1:38:32.600
<v Speaker 7>the expense of vulnerable patients, or illegally marketed hormones and

1:38:32.600 --> 1:38:35.479
<v Speaker 7>puberty blockers which are in no way licensed or approved

1:38:35.560 --> 1:38:36.200
<v Speaker 7>for this use.

1:38:37.960 --> 1:38:40.639
<v Speaker 2>That's that's deeply fundy because it's just like nothing he's

1:38:40.640 --> 1:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>saying is real.

1:38:42.200 --> 1:38:45.120
<v Speaker 7>No, like, all that's fake. The long term side effects

1:38:45.160 --> 1:38:48.320
<v Speaker 7>of sex transition is being extremely based and cool, but.

1:38:48.280 --> 1:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>No, like there's also there's just nothing to support any

1:38:50.800 --> 1:38:53.800
<v Speaker 2>of that notion. So even if the DJ does investigate this,

1:38:53.840 --> 1:38:56.559
<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna find anything because no one's trying to

1:38:56.640 --> 1:39:00.600
<v Speaker 2>market testosterone or estrogen to like make money off of it.

1:39:00.800 --> 1:39:01.000
<v Speaker 4>I know.

1:39:01.040 --> 1:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>This is one thing that certain freaks at the Daily

1:39:04.000 --> 1:39:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Wire try to like talk about being like, Ooh, the

1:39:05.920 --> 1:39:08.719
<v Speaker 2>shady pharmaceutical companies are making all this money off of estrogen.

1:39:09.560 --> 1:39:12.840
<v Speaker 2>It just isn't true because not Yeah, most people aren't

1:39:12.840 --> 1:39:15.080
<v Speaker 2>paying for estrogen anyway, They're getting it through like health

1:39:15.080 --> 1:39:17.479
<v Speaker 2>insurance that the most I have to pay for is

1:39:17.520 --> 1:39:18.479
<v Speaker 2>the fucking needles.

1:39:18.960 --> 1:39:21.559
<v Speaker 7>Well and also and also think about estrogen, is like

1:39:21.800 --> 1:39:23.960
<v Speaker 7>the majority of the people who get estrogen urs sists women.

1:39:24.800 --> 1:39:26.680
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, Like so.

1:39:28.200 --> 1:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>The majority of people who get testosterone are male bodybuilders.

1:39:31.720 --> 1:39:34.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And it's like, like, have you ever fucking tried to

1:39:34.840 --> 1:39:37.880
<v Speaker 7>like get a like get like like even something like

1:39:37.920 --> 1:39:42.240
<v Speaker 7>facial feminization surgery, which is like technically speaking, is like

1:39:42.280 --> 1:39:44.479
<v Speaker 7>a fairly highly paid from when use plastic surgeon do

1:39:44.560 --> 1:39:47.240
<v Speaker 7>you know how long the waiting lists are for that

1:39:47.640 --> 1:39:50.799
<v Speaker 7>you can't even pay them to do this to you.

1:39:50.800 --> 1:39:53.200
<v Speaker 7>You have to pay them and then wait for fucking

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<v Speaker 7>years because no one does it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's it's something that I think coming off

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<v Speaker 2>of like the epidemic, we have certain influencers online who

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to like find different ways to tie in

1:40:05.520 --> 1:40:08.840
<v Speaker 2>big pharma to whatever thing they're currently talking about, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to do that with trans healthcare, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just it is Honestly, it doesn't the reason why you

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<v Speaker 2>hardly get talked about because because it doesn't lead anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll get a passing mentioned and the what is a

1:40:19.080 --> 1:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Woman documentary, it'll get this passing mentioned by Trump, but

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't actually see anything on the legislative level

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<v Speaker 2>actually targeting this because it's just there's just nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to investigate. Also, all of these drugs are

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<v Speaker 2>approved and tested for all of these things. Yeah, yeah,

1:40:33.960 --> 1:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>it happened for like decades, so like it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>simply not real.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, this is the thing where I think

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<v Speaker 7>the actual effect of this with DJ would just be

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<v Speaker 7>Trump doing like random witch hunts and like going through

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<v Speaker 7>and like rating patients files for shit, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Peppa, Heppa, you're not allowed, not allowed.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think the trumpets this department is gonna give us.

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<v Speaker 7>So well, here's the thing. Is the Supreme Court going

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<v Speaker 7>to stop them? No, of course, this ree courd is

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<v Speaker 7>not gonna stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is such a non problem because there's just

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do here.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, but it's like I don't know, like I think

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<v Speaker 7>the prospect of Trump realizing he could actually just do

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<v Speaker 7>unlimited judicial tyranny and do whatever the fuck he wants

1:41:13.800 --> 1:41:17.080
<v Speaker 7>in the Supreme Court, like sure seven to two will

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<v Speaker 7>be like, yeah, cops have the right to like execute

1:41:19.880 --> 1:41:21.240
<v Speaker 7>trans prisoners or some ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's not what's currently being talked about.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, But I mean I do I

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<v Speaker 7>do think there'll be sort of like fake scare mongeri investigations.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think it'll lead. I just don't think

1:41:33.720 --> 1:41:35.600
<v Speaker 2>it'll lead anywhere. I think it's mostly just like a

1:41:35.600 --> 1:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>wild goose chase to satisfy whatever fucking person who watches

1:41:41.000 --> 1:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>too many right wing podcasts on YouTube. So like it's

1:41:44.000 --> 1:41:47.160
<v Speaker 2>it's I don't see this as anything like super pressing

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<v Speaker 2>the next one I think.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually could be real, depending on how motivated they are

1:41:51.320 --> 1:41:53.840
<v Speaker 7>to do it. So the next one, so this is

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<v Speaker 7>a ban on teachers and anyone who works. So this

1:41:57.040 --> 1:41:59.280
<v Speaker 7>this is this is supposed to be a directive sent

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<v Speaker 7>down from the Department of Education, and it says no

1:42:02.880 --> 1:42:06.000
<v Speaker 7>one who works for a school, So no teachers or

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<v Speaker 7>any school administration can tell a kid that they might

1:42:08.760 --> 1:42:11.639
<v Speaker 7>be trans and that the consequences for this are civil

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<v Speaker 7>like civil rights like investigations into them, and also the

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<v Speaker 7>elimination of federal funding for any school district where this happens. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's this is effect What this effectively is is

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<v Speaker 7>a threat to cut off federal funding from states if

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<v Speaker 7>they don't implement what is effectively a don't say trans bill.

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<v Speaker 4>That one.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that one's going to be pretty real. It

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<v Speaker 7>kind of depends on the extent to which the Department

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<v Speaker 7>of Education is willing to spend a bunch of time

1:42:42.320 --> 1:42:45.000
<v Speaker 7>going through individual cases. But you know, like, given that

1:42:45.040 --> 1:42:48.559
<v Speaker 7>it's possible that Department of Education just gets filled with

1:42:48.600 --> 1:42:53.040
<v Speaker 7>a bunch of like deranged Trump weirdos, I think there's

1:42:53.040 --> 1:42:55.439
<v Speaker 7>a real chance that this one actually goes through and

1:42:55.560 --> 1:42:59.200
<v Speaker 7>does stuff yeah. And the other thing without that one

1:42:59.280 --> 1:43:03.240
<v Speaker 7>is because because that's a directive through federal agencies, he

1:43:03.280 --> 1:43:05.840
<v Speaker 7>doesn't it doesn't have to go through Congress, which is

1:43:05.880 --> 1:43:07.840
<v Speaker 7>sort of alarming. It's I don't know, It's one of

1:43:07.920 --> 1:43:09.800
<v Speaker 7>these things where it's the question of how powerful is

1:43:09.800 --> 1:43:12.840
<v Speaker 7>the federal bureaucracy going to be? And I tend to

1:43:12.920 --> 1:43:15.120
<v Speaker 7>lean towards the side of the federal bureaucracy has an

1:43:15.120 --> 1:43:19.360
<v Speaker 7>imense capacity to cause harm. The last part is try.

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<v Speaker 7>He wants to get a bill in Congress that ends

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<v Speaker 7>all recognition of their being non binary people and saying

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<v Speaker 7>that the only genders are men and women. So this

1:43:28.160 --> 1:43:30.880
<v Speaker 7>would do things immediately like getting rid of like the

1:43:30.920 --> 1:43:34.600
<v Speaker 7>ex gender marker on passports and only recognizing people's to

1:43:34.720 --> 1:43:37.639
<v Speaker 7>sign gender at birth, which means the government is now

1:43:37.680 --> 1:43:42.760
<v Speaker 7>saying that only to like, only two genders exist, and

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<v Speaker 7>also that the federal bureaucracy gets to assign you a gender,

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<v Speaker 7>which is, you know, normally the exact kind of federal

1:43:48.320 --> 1:43:53.000
<v Speaker 7>tyranny the Republican Party decries, but you know, they hate us.

1:43:53.040 --> 1:43:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Do they ever? Do they ever actually decry that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of tyranny.

1:43:56.120 --> 1:44:00.439
<v Speaker 7>Federal Why federal tyranny they're supposed to. I think it's

1:44:00.520 --> 1:44:01.080
<v Speaker 7>to be their thing.

1:44:01.520 --> 1:44:04.639
<v Speaker 2>It's also less like the federal government declaring your gender.

1:44:04.680 --> 1:44:07.240
<v Speaker 2>It's like whatever random doctor fills out that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, for sure, but sure, but the the but the

1:44:10.760 --> 1:44:13.840
<v Speaker 7>government now is forcing you to, in their eyes, be

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<v Speaker 7>whatever gender that they decide that you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And we've had we've had some stuff like this

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<v Speaker 2>try to get passed through in Europe and certain certain

1:44:23.600 --> 1:44:26.320
<v Speaker 2>certain US states for like their own state ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So that's part. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Why this bill is these three things lumped together, but

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<v Speaker 7>it's the bill. This specific bill is this one using

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<v Speaker 7>Title nine to stop transfoman from playing in women's sports

1:44:37.880 --> 1:44:42.479
<v Speaker 7>in college or in schools. Sure, and then protecting the

1:44:42.560 --> 1:44:44.840
<v Speaker 7>right of the parent to keep your kid from transitioning,

1:44:45.400 --> 1:44:50.599
<v Speaker 7>which is fucking So that's fascinating because protecting the right

1:44:50.680 --> 1:44:53.760
<v Speaker 7>of the parent to make to have your kid not

1:44:53.880 --> 1:44:57.439
<v Speaker 7>transition that that's some really interesting wording there. Yeah, well,

1:44:57.439 --> 1:44:59.280
<v Speaker 7>so let me read the exactly. The exact wording is

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<v Speaker 7>protect the right of parents from being forced to allow

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<v Speaker 7>their child to assume a new gender identity without the parents' consent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so they're referring to the types of parental Bill

1:45:08.920 --> 1:45:12.080
<v Speaker 2>of Rights laws. Yeah, that have passed in at like

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<v Speaker 2>six Republican states. Yeah.

1:45:14.280 --> 1:45:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So the last one I think is really interesting and

1:45:18.200 --> 1:45:20.120
<v Speaker 7>it kind of gives the game away as to what

1:45:20.200 --> 1:45:23.680
<v Speaker 7>this is all, like, what the actual point of this

1:45:23.920 --> 1:45:27.800
<v Speaker 7>is for someone like Trump who's not that interested, doesn't

1:45:27.880 --> 1:45:31.760
<v Speaker 7>like transile but isn't that interested. And this one, okay,

1:45:31.760 --> 1:45:34.080
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to read it first. As part of our

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<v Speaker 7>new credentialing system, a credentialing body for teachers, we will

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<v Speaker 7>promote positive education about the nuclear family, the role of

1:45:40.600 --> 1:45:44.080
<v Speaker 7>mothers and fathers, and celebrating rather than erasing the things

1:45:44.120 --> 1:45:48.000
<v Speaker 7>that make men and women different and unique. Sure, so

1:45:48.120 --> 1:45:52.200
<v Speaker 7>this is literally this is this is legislating institutional like

1:45:52.439 --> 1:45:56.600
<v Speaker 7>sexism education. Yes, And you know, we've talked about the

1:45:56.640 --> 1:45:59.559
<v Speaker 7>credentialing stuff. It's unclear to me how this would work.

1:46:00.080 --> 1:46:02.320
<v Speaker 7>It's not it's not quite the same credentialing thing that

1:46:02.360 --> 1:46:06.360
<v Speaker 7>you were talking about. But basically, this is a federal

1:46:06.400 --> 1:46:08.519
<v Speaker 7>mandate that says that you can't be a teacher without

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<v Speaker 7>teaching sexism, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is I'm sure, I'm sure the teachers unions will love

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<v Speaker 2>to take that one on.

1:46:15.960 --> 1:46:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, I'm I and this is one of

1:46:18.400 --> 1:46:21.880
<v Speaker 7>the things that I I don't know. I mean, you

1:46:22.240 --> 1:46:24.680
<v Speaker 7>have to like go into like walk in with a

1:46:24.720 --> 1:46:26.599
<v Speaker 7>stick and beat them on it. But I am so

1:46:26.680 --> 1:46:29.800
<v Speaker 7>excited for the Trump administration has to deal with an

1:46:29.840 --> 1:46:33.400
<v Speaker 7>actual national teacher strike. Like, have fun with that one,

1:46:33.439 --> 1:46:34.200
<v Speaker 7>you dip shits.

1:46:34.720 --> 1:46:37.960
<v Speaker 2>This is why these types of conservatives really really hate

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<v Speaker 2>teachers unions.

1:46:38.920 --> 1:46:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:46:39.280 --> 1:46:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they frame teachers unions as being like one of

1:46:41.840 --> 1:46:45.479
<v Speaker 2>like the most evil lobbying forces in America because they

1:46:45.520 --> 1:46:48.360
<v Speaker 2>really don't like that they don't have complete total control

1:46:48.840 --> 1:46:53.639
<v Speaker 2>over teaching kids whatever kind of fucked up nuclear family

1:46:54.120 --> 1:46:57.679
<v Speaker 2>patriarchal bullshit that they want to like mandate by law.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and so they're going to attempt to do They're

1:47:03.720 --> 1:47:05.720
<v Speaker 7>they're they're they're they're going to attempt to every every

1:47:05.760 --> 1:47:08.880
<v Speaker 7>They're gonna they're gonna make everyone watch a shitty Matt

1:47:08.920 --> 1:47:12.960
<v Speaker 7>Walsh documentary or some ship. And if you complain about it,

1:47:13.040 --> 1:47:16.880
<v Speaker 7>they they they prosecute you under the Civil Rights Act

1:47:17.360 --> 1:47:22.719
<v Speaker 7>for being good luck discrimination or something. So that's that's

1:47:22.800 --> 1:47:26.559
<v Speaker 7>that's that's Trump's plan to protect children from left wing

1:47:26.600 --> 1:47:32.760
<v Speaker 7>gender insanity. It's really quite bad. As funny as some

1:47:32.840 --> 1:47:35.719
<v Speaker 7>of it is. I mean, it's a bunch of gender

1:47:35.800 --> 1:47:39.759
<v Speaker 7>firming care bands sort of stitch together with stuff trying

1:47:39.800 --> 1:47:44.000
<v Speaker 7>to knock hospitals out from doing it. Stitch to the

1:47:44.840 --> 1:47:46.400
<v Speaker 7>just the sexism law.

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<v Speaker 2>Very cool.

1:47:49.040 --> 1:47:53.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's quite bad. Come back tomorrow for probably even worse.

1:47:54.000 --> 1:47:54.200
<v Speaker 6>Ship.

1:47:55.520 --> 1:47:57.719
<v Speaker 7>Don't remember which one is tomorrow, but you'll.

1:47:57.680 --> 1:47:59.000
<v Speaker 4>We'll find out when we do.

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<v Speaker 9>Hello, welcome, This is it could happen here and I

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<v Speaker 9>am Sharene. Today we are continuing to talk about Agenda

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<v Speaker 9>forty seven and this episode is about quote unquote big Pharma.

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<v Speaker 9>Trump often goes after big Pharma in his campaign rhetoric,

1:48:30.000 --> 1:48:33.000
<v Speaker 9>and there is a lot of content within Agenda forty

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<v Speaker 9>seven that addresses what he views as the problems with

1:48:36.520 --> 1:48:41.080
<v Speaker 9>the pharmaceutical industry. In his first campaign for president, Donald

1:48:41.120 --> 1:48:45.400
<v Speaker 9>Trump tapped into bipartisan anger over high drug prices to

1:48:45.520 --> 1:48:49.640
<v Speaker 9>bash pharmaceutical companies. In his latest run for president, he

1:48:49.760 --> 1:48:53.280
<v Speaker 9>is echoing more extreme elements of his party to suggest

1:48:53.280 --> 1:48:57.559
<v Speaker 9>that the industry's products may be hurting Americans, particularly children.

1:48:58.240 --> 1:49:01.200
<v Speaker 9>Using children in this way is usually a tried and

1:49:01.280 --> 1:49:04.719
<v Speaker 9>true tactic to make people get up in arms about something,

1:49:05.160 --> 1:49:07.960
<v Speaker 9>and it works especially on those who may be less informed,

1:49:08.760 --> 1:49:11.479
<v Speaker 9>and there are a plethora of reasons as to why

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<v Speaker 9>our healthcare system is absolute shit and completely sucks, and

1:49:15.840 --> 1:49:19.000
<v Speaker 9>it's more often a hindrance to the average American. But

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<v Speaker 9>when Trump continues to spout unfounded and dangerous claims about

1:49:23.120 --> 1:49:27.160
<v Speaker 9>the pharmaceutical industry, all this does is further undermine public

1:49:27.240 --> 1:49:30.520
<v Speaker 9>health and any remaining faith that Americas have in it.

1:49:30.520 --> 1:49:33.880
<v Speaker 9>It reflects how deeply the mistrust of health institutions and

1:49:33.960 --> 1:49:38.400
<v Speaker 9>anti science rhetoric have become embedded, especially within a sizeable

1:49:38.479 --> 1:49:43.280
<v Speaker 9>faction of the Republican Party, following the pandemic. Trump's comments

1:49:43.360 --> 1:49:46.920
<v Speaker 9>about drug makers, posted in policy proposals and videos on

1:49:46.920 --> 1:49:50.639
<v Speaker 9>his campaign website have largely flown under the radar, as

1:49:50.680 --> 1:49:54.519
<v Speaker 9>his campaign speeches have doubled down on extreme rhetoric, like

1:49:54.600 --> 1:49:58.600
<v Speaker 9>his use of anti immigration language and praise of foreign authoritarians.

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<v Speaker 9>One of the Jenda forty seven proposals on Trump's campaign

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<v Speaker 9>website is called Addressing the Rise of Chronic Childhood Illnesses,

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<v Speaker 9>and it cites a quote unexplained and alarming growth in

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<v Speaker 9>the prevalence of chronic illnesses and health problems, especially in children.

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<v Speaker 9>End quote. In a June twenty twenty three video that

1:50:18.800 --> 1:50:22.519
<v Speaker 9>was posted to truth Social Trump questions whether the food

1:50:22.560 --> 1:50:26.400
<v Speaker 9>we eat, environmental toxins, or the quote over prescription of

1:50:26.439 --> 1:50:30.280
<v Speaker 9>certain medications is contributing to this increase of chronic health

1:50:30.320 --> 1:50:34.360
<v Speaker 9>problems and illnesses in children. In the video, Trump says,

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<v Speaker 9>too often our public health establishment is too close to

1:50:38.439 --> 1:50:41.160
<v Speaker 9>big pharma. They make a lot of money big pharma,

1:50:41.560 --> 1:50:45.000
<v Speaker 9>big corporations, and other special interests does not want to

1:50:45.040 --> 1:50:47.280
<v Speaker 9>ask the tough questions about what is happening to our

1:50:47.320 --> 1:50:51.760
<v Speaker 9>children's health. If big pharma defrauds American patients and taxpayers,

1:50:51.840 --> 1:50:54.960
<v Speaker 9>or puts profits above people, they must be investigated and

1:50:55.040 --> 1:50:58.679
<v Speaker 9>held accountable. Trump goes on to call for a quote

1:50:58.800 --> 1:51:02.360
<v Speaker 9>special presidential can mission of independent minds who are not

1:51:02.439 --> 1:51:05.320
<v Speaker 9>bought and paid for by big pharma to investigate the

1:51:05.400 --> 1:51:11.040
<v Speaker 9>rise of chronic illness. Interestingly enough, Trump's language around childhood

1:51:11.040 --> 1:51:14.760
<v Speaker 9>illness is reminiscent of Robert F. Kennedy Junior's views, who

1:51:14.840 --> 1:51:18.360
<v Speaker 9>has been a prominent vaccine skeptic running for president as

1:51:18.360 --> 1:51:21.280
<v Speaker 9>an independent, and he has been praised by Trump as

1:51:21.320 --> 1:51:24.640
<v Speaker 9>a quote common sense guy. In a video on his

1:51:24.760 --> 1:51:28.799
<v Speaker 9>campaign website, Kennedy promises to quote end the chronic disease

1:51:28.840 --> 1:51:33.000
<v Speaker 9>epidemic in this country. Kennedy has promoted the discredited theory

1:51:33.360 --> 1:51:37.040
<v Speaker 9>that vaccines cause autism, and though he doesn't directly make

1:51:37.080 --> 1:51:40.280
<v Speaker 9>this claim in the video, he previously tied the quote

1:51:40.439 --> 1:51:45.800
<v Speaker 9>children's health crisis to quote environmental toxins and vaccines in

1:51:45.840 --> 1:51:48.760
<v Speaker 9>an ebook published by The Children's Health Defense, which he

1:51:48.800 --> 1:51:53.639
<v Speaker 9>also founded. Kennedy's campaign spokesperson Stephanie Spear said that Kennedy

1:51:53.720 --> 1:51:57.160
<v Speaker 9>is pleased that Trump is highlighting the rise in childhood disease.

1:51:57.680 --> 1:52:01.160
<v Speaker 9>Trump's attention to the issue testifies to the success of

1:52:01.200 --> 1:52:04.120
<v Speaker 9>the Children's Health Defense, she said, and many other activist

1:52:04.240 --> 1:52:08.439
<v Speaker 9>organizations in putting the chronic disease epidemic on the political radar.

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<v Speaker 9>And while it is true that the rate of conditions

1:52:12.520 --> 1:52:18.120
<v Speaker 9>including disabilities, mental health diagnoses, ADHD diagnoses, and obesity, they

1:52:18.160 --> 1:52:20.960
<v Speaker 9>have gone up among children in recent years, and this

1:52:21.000 --> 1:52:24.240
<v Speaker 9>is according to the American Academy of Pediatrics, there are

1:52:24.360 --> 1:52:29.120
<v Speaker 9>numerous and complex social, health and environmental factors that underlie

1:52:29.160 --> 1:52:33.160
<v Speaker 9>these numbers. Increased awareness and better ability to diagnose some

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<v Speaker 9>conditions are believed to be contributing factors. Vaccine scientist and

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<v Speaker 9>pediatrician Peter Hotez said Trump's conspiratorial language is unhelpful, as

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<v Speaker 9>the anti vaccine movement in recent years has sought to

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<v Speaker 9>tie vaccines to a range of chronic diseases.

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<v Speaker 4>Quote.

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<v Speaker 9>Now that the far right has adopted the anti vaccine movement,

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<v Speaker 9>it's very conspiracy laden. The anti vaccine movement's rhetoric on

1:52:59.680 --> 1:53:03.519
<v Speaker 9>chronic illnesses now being voiced by Trump is so vague

1:53:03.520 --> 1:53:06.479
<v Speaker 9>and badly crafted. He says, how do you even address it?

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<v Speaker 9>Hotels want to say that it gives them a license

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<v Speaker 9>to bring up any condition they want, whether it's asthma,

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<v Speaker 9>or whether it's a peanut allergy, or whether it's lupus.

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<v Speaker 9>They just use it as a catch all for whatever

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<v Speaker 9>they feel like alleging. At the time, a spokesperson for

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<v Speaker 9>Pharma aka the main drugmaker lobby, did not address Trump's

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<v Speaker 9>proposals directly when they were asked about them. Alex Shreiver,

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<v Speaker 9>Pharma's senior vice president of public affairs, told Axios in

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<v Speaker 9>an emailed statement, political rhetorics surrounding healthcare will only continue

1:53:38.479 --> 1:53:41.920
<v Speaker 9>to rise as we enter an election year. Candidates should

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<v Speaker 9>focus on voters' top priorities, lowering out of pocket costs

1:53:45.439 --> 1:53:50.519
<v Speaker 9>and holding insurers and their pharmacy benefit managers accountable. Long

1:53:50.560 --> 1:53:55.000
<v Speaker 9>story short. The trust in public health institutions plummeted among

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<v Speaker 9>Republicans during the pandemic, with prominent members of the party

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<v Speaker 9>questioning the safety of COVID vaccines and the actions of

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<v Speaker 9>vaccine makers as well as government agencies in Despite Trump's

1:54:06.880 --> 1:54:11.880
<v Speaker 9>own history of vaccine skeptical comments, his administration's Operation Warp

1:54:11.920 --> 1:54:17.200
<v Speaker 9>Speed produced safe and affected COVID vaccines at an unprecedented pace,

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<v Speaker 9>an achievement that his base doesn't really give him much

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<v Speaker 9>credit for. Vaccine skepticism has grown among GOP voters in

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<v Speaker 9>recent years. In recent KAFAKA the Kaiser Family Foundation polling,

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<v Speaker 9>it found that Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats

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<v Speaker 9>to believe that misinformation about COVID nineteen in vaccines are true,

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<v Speaker 9>although independents are not very far behind them, or in

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<v Speaker 9>some cases they are more likely to believe misinformation. For example,

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<v Speaker 9>twenty nine percent of Republicans said that it's probably or

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<v Speaker 9>definitely true that the combined measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine

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<v Speaker 9>has been proven to cause autism in children, compared with

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<v Speaker 9>fourteen percent of Democrats and thirty four percent of INDE.

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<v Speaker 9>It's very important to emphasize that scientific research has repeatedly

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<v Speaker 9>found no association whatsoever between the MMR vaccine and autism.

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<v Speaker 9>Trump's calls for investigations into big pharma. It also taps

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<v Speaker 9>into GOP voters' anxieties over education, gender affirming care for adolescence,

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<v Speaker 9>and the youth mental health crisis. A school's related proposal

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<v Speaker 9>on Trump's campaign website calls for the Food and Drug

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<v Speaker 9>Administration to convene a quote, outside panel to investigate whether

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<v Speaker 9>transgender hormone treatments and ideology increase the risk of extreme depression, aggression,

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<v Speaker 9>and violence. Last spring, Trump made a similar pledge during

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<v Speaker 9>a speech given at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting.

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<v Speaker 9>The campaign says that the Trump administration will explore whether

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<v Speaker 9>quote common psychiatric drugs, as well as genetically engineered cannabis

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<v Speaker 9>and other narcotics, are causing psychotic breaks. It also calls

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<v Speaker 9>for a Department of Justice investigation into way their quote,

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<v Speaker 9>big pharma and the big hospital networks have covered up

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<v Speaker 9>the horrific long term side effects of sex transitions in

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<v Speaker 9>order to get rich at the expense of vulnerable patients.

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<v Speaker 9>And another proposal to quote dismantle the deep state. It

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<v Speaker 9>specifically calls out big pharma as part of the plan

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<v Speaker 9>to quote ban federal bureaucrats from taking jobs at the

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<v Speaker 9>companies they deal with and regulate. In an ideal world,

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<v Speaker 9>which we are clearly very very far from. The idea

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<v Speaker 9>that you can trust the prescription drugs that a health

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<v Speaker 9>provider offers you. It should be a basic societal norm.

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<v Speaker 9>While mainstream politicians across the political spectrum on both the

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<v Speaker 9>right and the left four years have criticized the pharmaceutical

1:56:45.560 --> 1:56:49.280
<v Speaker 9>industry over pricing, there has been a common understanding that,

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<v Speaker 9>for the most part, the US system can be trusted

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<v Speaker 9>to place safe and effective drugs on the market and

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<v Speaker 9>to remove them if new evidence showing otherwise arises, is

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<v Speaker 9>suggesting negligence or cover ups of safety issues. Vaccine science

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<v Speaker 9>is a pediatrician Peter Hotess again. He said, elements of

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<v Speaker 9>the GOP, especially the far right, has been targeting science

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<v Speaker 9>and scientists as enemies of the state. I was hoping

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<v Speaker 9>Trump would not go there. Let's take our first break

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<v Speaker 9>and we will be right back. Another part of Trump's

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<v Speaker 9>Agenda forty seven plan to take on big pharma is

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<v Speaker 9>to end the global freeloading on American consumers. It's honestly

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<v Speaker 9>a little difficult for me to just not read aloud

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<v Speaker 9>the transcripts that are on Trump's website that describe his

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<v Speaker 9>agenda for Agenda forty seven, because they're just pure comedy

1:57:53.560 --> 1:57:57.000
<v Speaker 9>and they're all just provided on his website for our entertainment.

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<v Speaker 9>So I won't read all the transcripts, but I will

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<v Speaker 9>read the highlights. Here it goes crooked. Joe Biden likes

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<v Speaker 9>to pretend that he stands up to big pharma, but

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<v Speaker 9>in fact, I was the only president in modern times

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<v Speaker 9>whoever took on big pharma, and I took it head on.

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<v Speaker 9>Biden canceled my tough on pharma policies the moment he

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<v Speaker 9>had a chance as president, I signed a historic executive

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<v Speaker 9>order declaring that the United States government would pay the

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<v Speaker 9>same price for pharmaceuticals as other foreign countries, and no more.

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<v Speaker 9>We don't want to pay anymore. Can you imagine that?

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<v Speaker 9>How simple would that be? This would have saved American

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<v Speaker 9>patients billions and billions of dollars. But shortly after taking office,

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<v Speaker 9>Joe Biden rescinded my executive order, stabbing patients and US

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<v Speaker 9>citizens and especially our seniors right in the back. For

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<v Speaker 9>many years, Americans have been paying among the highest prices

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<v Speaker 9>in the world for our prescription drugs, while other countries

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<v Speaker 9>negotiate sweetheart deals off the backs of America. On day

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<v Speaker 9>one of my new term, I will sign an executive

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<v Speaker 9>order to end this global free loading on American consumers

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<v Speaker 9>for once and for all. The United States is tired

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<v Speaker 9>of getting ripped off. We've been ripped off by everybody

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<v Speaker 9>for so many decades. We are tired of it not

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<v Speaker 9>going to happen. They should have never rescinded my original

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<v Speaker 9>executive order. It just shows you the power of big pharma.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you very much. This was a very easy one,

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<v Speaker 9>and this was an honor to tell you because this

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<v Speaker 9>is something that should never have happened. It should never

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<v Speaker 9>ever have rescinded my executive order. I just I had

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<v Speaker 9>to read that whole thing because it's incredible that these

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<v Speaker 9>transcripts are up here, because they are so ridiculous. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 9>I love that they also included like the ending after

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<v Speaker 9>he already said thank you, how he was like, this

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<v Speaker 9>was a very easy one, right anyway, I just thought

1:59:52.400 --> 1:59:55.520
<v Speaker 9>that transcript was worth a little read. Those are his words,

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<v Speaker 9>what he wants to do, and how he thinks. There's

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<v Speaker 9>more transcripts later that I find funny, but for an now,

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<v Speaker 9>let's go into what he's saying. Trump also has a

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<v Speaker 9>plan to quote end Joe Biden's pharmaceutical shortages and return

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<v Speaker 9>the manufacturer of life saving drugs to the United States.

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<v Speaker 9>This is not just a public health crisis, it's a

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<v Speaker 9>national security crisis, he says. As part of my plan

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<v Speaker 9>to obtain total independence from China, we will phase in

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<v Speaker 9>tariffs and import restrictions to bring back production of all

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<v Speaker 9>essential medicines to the United States of America where they belong.

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<v Speaker 9>I signed an executive order to begin this process in

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<v Speaker 9>twenty twenty, but Biden has shamefully failed to follow through.

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<v Speaker 9>Part of this plan for Agenda forty seven will be

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<v Speaker 9>to restore this executive order. He keeps talking about Executive

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<v Speaker 9>Order one three nine four to four, which was dated

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<v Speaker 9>August sixth, twenty twenty. The executive order required federal agencies

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<v Speaker 9>to quote by American by facilitating the domestic production of

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<v Speaker 9>medicines and medical devices that the FDA determined essential to

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<v Speaker 9>public health. It did so by requiring federal agency to

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<v Speaker 9>buy medicines and medical devices that are entirely produced in

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<v Speaker 9>the United States. Trump says that restoring this executive order

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<v Speaker 9>will kickstart the domestic production of life saving drugs. His

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<v Speaker 9>website says, American doctors should never have to give a

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<v Speaker 9>patient a drug from an unapproved facility in China or India.

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<v Speaker 9>We can and must produce these essential medicines at home,

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<v Speaker 9>rather than allowing federal agencies to buy essential medicines from

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<v Speaker 9>quote unsafe foreign countries. Another angle of his Agenda forty

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<v Speaker 9>seven plan describes how Joe Biden's drug shortage constitutes an

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<v Speaker 9>urgent public health crisis. It says that Joe Biden's drug

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<v Speaker 9>shortage is fueled by over reliance on foreign made medicines and,

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<v Speaker 9>in some cases, potentially unsafe manufacturers. Here's some of that

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<v Speaker 9>fund transcript. Under Crooked Joe Biden, there has been a

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<v Speaker 9>catastrophic increase in shortages of essential medicines. It's a mess.

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<v Speaker 9>There's currently a shortage of at least fourteen critical cancer drugs

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<v Speaker 9>ugs in the United States. They just can't get it,

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<v Speaker 9>and every month of delay cancer treatment increases the risk

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<v Speaker 9>of death by at least ten percent. It's unthinkable that

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<v Speaker 9>this could be happening in the United States of America

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<v Speaker 9>in twenty twenty three. It is truly unbelievable. We are

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<v Speaker 9>becoming a third world country very rapidly, between our open

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<v Speaker 9>borders and our bad elections. We are third world. He

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<v Speaker 9>goes on to say that, even more dangerously, the top

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<v Speaker 9>producer of critical medicines that we rely on in the

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<v Speaker 9>United States is a place called China. China produces ninety

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<v Speaker 9>five percent of all ibuprofen, ninety one percent of hyder cortizone,

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<v Speaker 9>seventy percent of all taile nol, and nearly half of

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<v Speaker 9>all penicillin. Can you imagine that this is not just

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<v Speaker 9>a public health crisis, this is a national security crisis.

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<v Speaker 9>As part of my plan to obtain total independence from China,

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<v Speaker 9>we will phase in tariffs and import restrictions to bring

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<v Speaker 9>back production of all essential medicines to the United States

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<v Speaker 9>of America where they long. I signed the executive order

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<v Speaker 9>to begin this process of twenty twenty, but Biden has

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<v Speaker 9>shamefully failed to follow through. He wants it ended, He

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<v Speaker 9>wants to take care of China. This is a matter

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<v Speaker 9>of tremendous urgency. American lives are on the line, and

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<v Speaker 9>it will be one of my top priorities as president.

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<v Speaker 9>It will also create countless new American jobs. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>In another Agenda forty seven video, Trump announced his plan

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<v Speaker 9>to eradicate the drug addiction crisis in America. We will

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<v Speaker 9>not rest until we have ended the drug addiction crisis,

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<v Speaker 9>he says. For three decades before my election, drug overdose

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<v Speaker 9>deaths increased every single year. Under my leadership, we took

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<v Speaker 9>the drug and fetanol crisis head on, and we achieved

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<v Speaker 9>the first reduction in overdose deaths in more than thirty years.

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<v Speaker 9>On his website, in all caps, it says saving American lives.

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<v Speaker 9>It says that Trump has pledged that he will not

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<v Speaker 9>rest until we end this crisis, and that he will

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<v Speaker 9>impose a full naval embargo on the drug cartels and

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<v Speaker 9>deploy military assets to inflict maximum damage on cartel operations.

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<v Speaker 9>Ask Congress to ensure that drug dealers and human traffickers

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<v Speaker 9>receive the death penalty. Direct US federal law enforcement to

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<v Speaker 9>take down the gangs and organize street crime that distribute

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<v Speaker 9>these deadly narcotics on a local level. Permanently designate fetanol

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<v Speaker 9>as a federally controlled substance, tell China that if they

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<v Speaker 9>do not clamp down on the export of fentanyl's chemical precursors,

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<v Speaker 9>they will pay a steep price. He wants to strengthen

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<v Speaker 9>the pillars of work, faith, and family, which give life,

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<v Speaker 9>meaning and hope for those struggling with addiction, and he

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<v Speaker 9>wants to expand federal support for faith based counseling, treatment,

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<v Speaker 9>and recovery programs. It's faith based for me. Even if

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<v Speaker 9>in theory some of this kind of sounds like a

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<v Speaker 9>good idea, both subtly and not so subtly, you see

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<v Speaker 9>the bigotry seep through. It's actually not about saving lives

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<v Speaker 9>or taking care of addicts. It's about implementing and cementing

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<v Speaker 9>this country as a quote faith based country and having faith,

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<v Speaker 9>which obviously only means Christianity. When it's using this context,

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<v Speaker 9>it's going to be America's savior. And Trump over here

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<v Speaker 9>is literally being a Bible salesman. It's so nauseatingly obvious

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<v Speaker 9>and slimy. It drives me crazy, and the shit actually

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<v Speaker 9>works on many many people. The last thing I'll touch

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<v Speaker 9>on is a section of Agenda forty seven that is

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<v Speaker 9>titled quote ending the Nightmare of the homeless, drug addicts,

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<v Speaker 9>and the dangerously deranged. It describes his plan to quote

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<v Speaker 9>rescue American cities from the scourge of homelessness, the drug addicted,

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<v Speaker 9>and the dangerously deranged. Trump wants to ban urban camping,

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<v Speaker 9>offering violators the option to either receive treatment and rehabilitation

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<v Speaker 9>or face arrest. In this transcript, he says, are once

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<v Speaker 9>great cities have become unlivable, unsanitary nightmares, surrendered to the homeless,

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<v Speaker 9>the drug addicted, and the violent and dangerously deranged. We

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<v Speaker 9>are making many suffer for the whims of a deeply

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<v Speaker 9>unwell few, and they are unwell. Indeed, the homeless have

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<v Speaker 9>no right to turn every park and sidewalk into a

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<v Speaker 9>place for them to squat and do drugs. Americans should

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<v Speaker 9>not have to step over piles of needles and waste

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<v Speaker 9>as they walk down the street in a beautiful city,

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<v Speaker 9>or at least once beautiful city, because they've changed so

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<v Speaker 9>much over the last ten years. Our first consideration should

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<v Speaker 9>be the rights and safety of the hard working, law

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<v Speaker 9>abiding citizens who make our society function. When I am

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<v Speaker 9>back in the White House, we will use every tool, lever,

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<v Speaker 9>and authority to get the homeless off our streets. We

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<v Speaker 9>want to take care of them, but they have to

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<v Speaker 9>be off our streets. There is nothing compassionate about letting

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<v Speaker 9>these individuals live in filth and squalor rather than getting

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<v Speaker 9>them the help that they need. We need professionals to

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<v Speaker 9>help them. For a small fraction of what we spend

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<v Speaker 9>on Ukraine, we can take care of every homeless veteran

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<v Speaker 9>in America. Our veterans are treated horribly likewise, With all

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<v Speaker 9>the money we will save by ending mass unskilled migration,

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<v Speaker 9>we will have a huge dividend to address this crisis

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<v Speaker 9>in our own country. Under my strategy, we will ban

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<v Speaker 9>urban camping wherever possible. Violators of these bands will be arrested,

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<v Speaker 9>but they will be given the option to accept treatment

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<v Speaker 9>and services if they are willing to be rehabilitated. Many

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<v Speaker 9>of them don't want that, but we will give them

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<v Speaker 9>the option. Okay, it's meet again. Basically, Trump's plan to

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<v Speaker 9>end homelessness is to criminalize it. He wants to make

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<v Speaker 9>homelessness illegal. Alan Mills, executive director of the Uptown People's

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<v Speaker 9>Law Center, told Newsweek that Trump's plan is unconstitutional and

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<v Speaker 9>will dissuade people from seeking assistance when they truly need it.

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<v Speaker 9>Mills said Trump's remarks left him feeling appalled but unsurprised

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<v Speaker 9>by the former president's antics based on Trump's long history

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<v Speaker 9>of anti homeless agendas. He says, it is blatant in

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<v Speaker 9>the constitution that you can't arrest people just because they

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<v Speaker 9>don't have a home. But more importantly, it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 9>People are not homeless because they're afraid of punishments. People

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<v Speaker 9>are homeless because they don't have a home. Trump's plan

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<v Speaker 9>isn't over yet, though, He continues by saying that we

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<v Speaker 9>will then open up large parcels of inexpensive land, bringing doctors, psychiatrists,

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<v Speaker 9>social workers, and drug rehab specialists, and create tent cities

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<v Speaker 9>where the homeless can be relocated and their problems identified.

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<v Speaker 9>We will open up our cities again, make them livable,

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<v Speaker 9>and make them beautiful. For those who are just temporarily

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<v Speaker 9>down on their luck, we will work to help them

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<v Speaker 9>quickly reintegrate into a normal life. For those who have addictions,

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<v Speaker 9>substance abuse, and common mental health problems, we will get

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<v Speaker 9>them into treatment. And for those who are severely mentally

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<v Speaker 9>ill and deeply disturbed, we will bring them back to

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<v Speaker 9>mental institutions. Where they belong, with the goal of reintegrating

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<v Speaker 9>them back into society once they are well enough to manage.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a tough task, a very tough task. What's taking

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<v Speaker 9>place on the streets, what's taken place when they're taking

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<v Speaker 9>so much drugs. But the fact is we're going to try.

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<v Speaker 9>This strategy will be far better and also far less

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<v Speaker 9>expensive than spending vast sums of taxpayer money to house

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<v Speaker 9>the homeless and luxury hotels without addressing their underlying issues.

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<v Speaker 9>And they have so many of these underlying issues and needs.

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<v Speaker 9>This is how I will end the scourge of homelessness

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<v Speaker 9>and make our cities clean and safe and beautiful once again.

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<v Speaker 9>We will do it. We will bring back America. Anne Olivia,

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<v Speaker 9>the chief executive officer for the NAEH, the National Alliance

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<v Speaker 9>to End Homelessness, also condemned a Trump's plan, calling it

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<v Speaker 9>alarming and dangerous in numerous ways. She said the way

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<v Speaker 9>to end homelessness is not to arrest people and move

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<v Speaker 9>them out of sight into internment camps. Jail isn't housing.

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<v Speaker 9>Prison isn't housing. Tent cities aren't housing. Housing with services

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<v Speaker 9>tailored to people's specific needs must be at the center

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<v Speaker 9>of any plan to end homelessness. Prioritizing any immediate strategy

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<v Speaker 9>other than housing is a red herring, a political ploy

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<v Speaker 9>to divert attention from the real resources communities need while

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<v Speaker 9>othering people in the most vulnerable situations imaginable. And then

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<v Speaker 9>there was Vote Vets. Vote Vets is a veterans advocacy group.

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<v Speaker 9>They said on Twitter that rather than continue the progress

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<v Speaker 9>of helping homeless veterans, Trump lust to find them and

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<v Speaker 9>toss them into what can be best described as internment camps.

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<v Speaker 9>Who all, in all, Agenda forty seven is a big

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<v Speaker 9>fucking yikes, and it should concern you. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 9>leave you all with a uplifting quote from February twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 9>when Trump spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference. He said,

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<v Speaker 9>November fifth will be our new liberation day. It will

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<v Speaker 9>be their judgment day. Wow. Can't wait until then.

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<v Speaker 1>See ya, hello, and welcome to it could happen here

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast about things falling apart In this week podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Agenda forty seven Donald Trump's plan for you know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do if he winds up winning re election and

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<v Speaker 1>being back in all of our lives in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>of having political power as opposed to just back in

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<v Speaker 1>all of our lives because he never shuts the hell up,

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<v Speaker 1>and neither do any of the journalists who report on him.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about that all week. You've been listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the episodes put together one of my colleagues. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be talking about Trump's border policy, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>his promise to declare war on the cartels and use

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<v Speaker 1>the United States military to attack them. Before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into it, I do want to note, if you notice

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<v Speaker 1>this sounds a little bit different. I am in Texas currently.

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<v Speaker 1>My father has leukemia. He's being treated for it. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on chemo in the hospital, just finished chemo actually, But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to fly down to Texas last minute. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not recording this in my normal space. We should

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<v Speaker 1>be back to normal, you know, very soon here. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to explain, if you think it sounds different,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not me fucking something up. I just had to

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<v Speaker 1>fly across the country. So let's talk about Agenda forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven and the Cartels. Back in two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was still a baby and in fact in Dallas, Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>as i am right now, I worked as the secretary

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<v Speaker 1>for a financial planner named Al Jones. I was bad

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<v Speaker 1>at this job, and I didn't really know much about

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<v Speaker 1>financial planning then, but I have since come to suspect

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<v Speaker 1>that Al was not great at his job either. The

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<v Speaker 1>first sign of this might have been the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>when I took the job, Al got excited because I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned during our little interview that I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>a writer someday, and he was like, I'm a novelist,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I thought you were a financial planner,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he hands me a copy of his self

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<v Speaker 1>published novel.

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<v Speaker 3>Operation night Watch.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The plot to this motherfucker was barkingly mad, spurred on

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<v Speaker 1>by an epidelic of inner city violence. The government sent

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<v Speaker 1>in a team of special forces guys to take on

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<v Speaker 1>the criminals. I think it's the government who sends them.

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<v Speaker 1>They may just be a bunch like Green Berets and

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<v Speaker 1>Navy seals who decide to fight crime on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a while since I read the thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to have a hardcover delivered to me, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of them left, so you may get

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<v Speaker 1>to hear more from this book.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Idea of this is that, like Yeah, there's all of

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<v Speaker 1>these very much racially coded criminals in the streets making

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<v Speaker 1>life too dangerous for regular people, these evil drug dealers

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<v Speaker 1>and robbers, and we just need our special forces guys

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<v Speaker 1>to murder them, right, it was. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like uncomfortable fetishization of brutal violence from this very

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<v Speaker 1>mild mannered seeming dude who mostly held meetings at Texas

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<v Speaker 1>roadhouses with old people to try to get them to

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<v Speaker 1>invest in innuities or whatever a split annuity is. I've

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<v Speaker 1>since forgotten so again, obviously, even at that point in time,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly having lived either in the country the suburbs, I

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<v Speaker 1>had spent enough time in Dallas to know his description

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<v Speaker 1>of inner city life was not precisely accurate. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I remember most about the book is that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even really a story. It was and talking to Al

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<v Speaker 1>made this clear, a literal description of the policy he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see. The thin characters that he included in

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<v Speaker 1>the story were basically just there to help dress up

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<v Speaker 1>what was again a policy proposal, and that policy was

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<v Speaker 1>we should use the US military to kill quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>drug dealers. Right now. Over the last fifteen years or so,

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream Republican policy has actually caught up to my old boss,

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<v Speaker 1>and now President Trump has included in Agenda forty seven

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<v Speaker 1>a promise to invade Mexico with US special forces. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the extent of the promise. We will be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that all through this fun episode. On Deceiver twenty second,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, the Trump campaign uploaded a page titled

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<v Speaker 1>President Donald J. Trump declares War on Cartels to his

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<v Speaker 1>campaign website. And I don't know about you, guys, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sick in the motherfucker's voice, So I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to read how this opens. But if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the website, you can listen to him say this if

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you happier. The drug cartels are waging war

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<v Speaker 1>on America, and it's now time for America to wage

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<v Speaker 1>war on the cartels. In this war, Joe Biden has

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<v Speaker 1>cited against the United States, and with the cartels, they're

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<v Speaker 1>making more money than they've ever made before. Times ten,

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<v Speaker 1>There's never been anything like it. They're major, major companies.

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<v Speaker 1>They're bigger than even some of our biggest companies. Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>open border policies are a deadly betrayal of our nation.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely got a unique diction. Yet you know, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>came up with that one more or less on his own,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need to be scripted. Now, Trump goes on to

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<v Speaker 1>state after this that when he is president again, the

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<v Speaker 1>United States government will treat cartels the same way they

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<v Speaker 1>treated Isis, which you might recall still exists and recently

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<v Speaker 1>carried out an attack in Russia. Republic picks might note

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<v Speaker 1>that this attack was by Isis k or Isis Coruscond,

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<v Speaker 1>which is true. And boy, howdye does Afghanistan come back

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<v Speaker 1>into this story in a little bit, So just just

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<v Speaker 1>keep that in mind. But first let's continue with Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>He claims that under his presidency we had a quote

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<v Speaker 1>very very strong border and in fact, the strongest border

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of the country, and quote drugs were

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<v Speaker 1>at a low for forty five years. Now, it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to fact check things that both Joe Biden and Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump say. The use the diction he uses here does

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<v Speaker 1>make fact checking slightly difficult. The strongest border kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a meaningless term, right, But the claim about drugs being

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<v Speaker 1>at a low for forty five years can be fact

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<v Speaker 1>checked to some degree, although again his approach to grammar

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<v Speaker 1>makes it hard to tell what he's claiming here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's drugs at a low for forty five years, mean, like,

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<v Speaker 1>drug use is at a low, drugs smuggling is at

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<v Speaker 1>a low.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He has made variations of this claim often, though, including

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<v Speaker 1>a note on his campaign website in January twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three that under his presidency, quote, drug overdose deaths decline

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<v Speaker 1>nationwide for the first time in nearly thirty years. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's assume that that's kind of what he meant to claim,

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<v Speaker 1>that drug overdose deaths were the lowest they've been for

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<v Speaker 1>forty five for forty five years, right, which is again,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just wrong on its face because earlier

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<v Speaker 1>he said for thirty years, So like, which is it? Donald?

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever, Let's say that what he meant to claim

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<v Speaker 1>is that under his presidency, drug overdose deaths were at

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest point in a long time. Right, If we're

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<v Speaker 1>being fair, that's the fairest I could be to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is true that the overdose death rate dropped

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<v Speaker 1>during Trump's presidency for one year in twenty eighteen. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the only year that it dropped. During each of the

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<v Speaker 1>other three years he was in office, the overdose rate rose,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, it rose by record numbers in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>PolitiFact also notes quote looking at overdose deaths from synthetic opioids,

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<v Speaker 1>the closely watched category that accounts for the largest share

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<v Speaker 1>of all opioid overdose deaths, the rate rose every year

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump's presidency. This is worth noting because all of

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<v Speaker 1>the things he wants to do at the border to

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<v Speaker 1>the cartels, all of his justifications for really needing to

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<v Speaker 1>crack down on human trafficking, for wanting to use the

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<v Speaker 1>navy seals or whatever to kill cartel guys to basically

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<v Speaker 1>invade Mexico, it's to stop Fentonel, which he describes as

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<v Speaker 1>an existential threat to the country. And you know, makes

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<v Speaker 1>the claim that basically, when I was president, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff was, we were taking care of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all all declining, and then when Biden took over,

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<v Speaker 1>it got a lot worse. No, the rate of finanel

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<v Speaker 1>use wrote in Finnyl related deaths in particular rose every

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<v Speaker 1>single year of Trump's presidency, every single year. Anyway, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>promises no mercy to the cartels and that he will

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<v Speaker 1>designate the major ones foreign terrorist organizations with the goal

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<v Speaker 1>of cutting off their access to global financial systems. Incidentally,

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<v Speaker 1>this would provide a pretext to basically charging every drug user,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not their drugs had anything to do with

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<v Speaker 1>a cartel with material support of a terrorist organization, and

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<v Speaker 1>thus allow night marriish penalties for people caught dealing weed

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<v Speaker 1>or LSD or whatever, on the justification that they're aiding

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<v Speaker 1>the cartels with whom we are at war. Trump also

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<v Speaker 1>states that he will ask Congress to pass legislation to

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<v Speaker 1>allow the death penalty for quote drug smugglers and human traffickers. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>He's made similar statements around drug dealers in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's how this particular rant on the Agenda forty seven

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<v Speaker 1>website ends. The drug cartels and their allies and the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden administration have the blood of countless millions on their hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Millions and millions of families and people are being destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>When I am back in the White House, the drug

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<v Speaker 1>kingpins and vicious traffickers will never sleep soundly again. We

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<v Speaker 1>did it once, and we did it better than anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>There's never been a better border than we had just

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago. It was strong, it was powerful, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was respected all over the world, and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>laughed at all over the world. And we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to let that happen much longer. We have to take over.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to be tough, and we have to be smart,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to be fair. But if we don't do

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<v Speaker 1>something immediately, our country is gone. Now that's all ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>but it behooves us to look into the origins of

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<v Speaker 1>this particular violent fantasy. When President Trump was still in office,

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<v Speaker 1>he repeatedly floated variations of a single idea using US

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<v Speaker 1>missiles to destroy so called drug factories, specifically those producing

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<v Speaker 1>either fentanyl or methamphetamine. Obviously, cartels do operate sizable facilities

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<v Speaker 1>and where they prepare drugs for smuggling and sale. They

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<v Speaker 1>have places where they cut fentanyl, which generally comes from elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>into other drugs, or make it into pills, etc. And

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<v Speaker 1>they've got places where meth is cooked. Obviously, so, as

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<v Speaker 1>best as The New York Times has been able to trace,

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<v Speaker 1>his obsession with military action against Mexico seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>started in late twenty nineteen. So while the coronavirus is spreading,

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<v Speaker 1>our president rather than focusing on a response, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of obsessed with the fentanyl crisis, which is serious, but

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<v Speaker 1>his way of dealing with it was to hold these constant,

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<v Speaker 1>large oval office meetings that people absolutely had to attend.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote some part tennisis from the New York Times. Some

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<v Speaker 1>participants felt the meetings were of little use because officials

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<v Speaker 1>tended to perform for mister Trump, and he would perform

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<v Speaker 1>for them. And that does put the fun idea in

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<v Speaker 1>my head of Donald Trump and a bunch of friends

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<v Speaker 1>all dancing about, like, I don't know whatever kind of

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<v Speaker 1>animal you would train to dance. I'm spacing on that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So why don't we just roll to ads

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. Well, I think of animals. We're back,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm going to continue that quote from the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times. When the idea of military intervention was brought

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<v Speaker 1>up at one such meeting, mister Trump turned to Brett Geroor,

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<v Speaker 1>who was there in his role as the US Assistant

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary for Health. Mister Gero was also a four star

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<v Speaker 1>admiral and the Commission Corps of the US Public Health Service,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was wearing his dress uniform. His main point

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<v Speaker 1>was that the United States was unable to combat the

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<v Speaker 1>crisis with treatment alone. According to a person briefed on

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<v Speaker 1>his comments, it was clear from the way mister Trump

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<v Speaker 1>singled out mister Gerror that he had mistakenly thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was in the military because of his dress uniform. According

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<v Speaker 1>to two participants in the meeting, mister Gerroor in his response,

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<v Speaker 1>suggested putting lead to target. The two participants were called

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<v Speaker 1>that seems likely. Geror denies this right. He claims, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the President knows me really well. We met all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He would never mistake me for a soldier, and like, sure, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>For one thing, I totally believe he could meet with

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<v Speaker 1>Trump regularly and Trump not remember him. But also, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sounds assuming I mean again, and these are

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<v Speaker 1>all maybe not the best sources, but assuming the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are like he said we should put lead to

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<v Speaker 1>target are telling the truth, that sounds to me like

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<v Speaker 1>this guy wearing his uniform because he knows it'll impress

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was also trying to use military metaphors because I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe was just trying to have this impact on Trump, right,

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<v Speaker 1>make Trump think of him as like a military official

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<v Speaker 1>giving advice. There's some claims that people in the administration

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<v Speaker 1>were so concerned about this and were so terrified that

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<v Speaker 1>like Trump might actually attack Mexico that they asked Jeror

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<v Speaker 1>to stop wearing his uniform to meetings, basically being like

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<v Speaker 1>he's hypnotized by this shit man, Like if you dress

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<v Speaker 1>like a soldier, he'll take you seriously when you say

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<v Speaker 1>this crazy bullshit. Anyway, at the same time this is

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<v Speaker 1>all going on, Attorney General William Barr had also started

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<v Speaker 1>floating the idea to the President that maybe the United

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<v Speaker 1>States should consider carrying out some attacks in Mexico to

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<v Speaker 1>kill cartel guys to stop the fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>His argument, though, was not so much that we should

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<v Speaker 1>do it, but that if we threaten Mexico with military action,

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<v Speaker 1>that will force the Mexican government to be more aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>against the cartels. Now, William Barr is not a guy

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<v Speaker 1>I consider very smart, and this is in fact a

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<v Speaker 1>dumb idea, because like Mexico's government has tried a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways to fight the cartels, they haven't destroyed them.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, the current president of Mexico's is more on

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<v Speaker 1>the left, and he has a policy is described as

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<v Speaker 1>hugs not bullets, right, which is not using the stick

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<v Speaker 1>to fight the drug cartels. But that doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been tried. The Mexican government and the Mexican military

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<v Speaker 1>have carried out a number of very high intensity operations

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<v Speaker 1>against cartels over the years. It's just like, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>The cartel problem is a massive, massive, complicated thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that like, if we threaten Mexico, they'll finally

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<v Speaker 1>do it kind of understates the degree to which Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>is capable of ending this epidemic or ending this problem

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<v Speaker 1>right of somehow taking back this territory and rendering the

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<v Speaker 1>cartels unable to function. I don't actually know that they are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know that. I certainly wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>that the current president's plan is working. But no one

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<v Speaker 1>else has stopped them either, so I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Bar is rather silly when he thinks that it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a matter of threatening Mexico with an invasion that'll

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<v Speaker 1>force him to take care of this shit. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know that they have the ability to do that

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<v Speaker 1>either way. So for his part, Barr does not seem

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<v Speaker 1>to have actually wanted at military action in Mexico. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>he's thinking that the threat will do the trick, and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, when Trump pushed back that, like, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we could just shoot some missiles into Mexico. Barr pushed

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<v Speaker 1>back on this and was like, well, if we fire,

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<v Speaker 1>missiles will hit we might hit the wrong target, right, Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>civilian casualties you know, could happen, so we should avoid that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that really kind of showcases how fucking dangerous someone

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<v Speaker 1>like Barr is because his plan is he's thinking he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing forty chess or whatever. It's like, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mexican government will get scared and they'll take care

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<v Speaker 1>of these cartels for us. But when you start floating

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<v Speaker 1>that to a guy named Trump, he's going to be like, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just shoot him with missiles. And you may you

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<v Speaker 1>may push back against that initially, but when your stupid

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<v Speaker 1>plan to bully Mexico into destroying the cartels doesn't work

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<v Speaker 1>because they can't or because don't want to be bullied,

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<v Speaker 1>then what where are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't step down at that point. You can't back

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<v Speaker 1>off once you've threatened to bomb them, right, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you threaten to attack and they don't do shit and

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<v Speaker 1>then you just kind of like back off, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look weak. And that's the worst thing in the world

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<v Speaker 1>to these people, right, Trump's certainly not going to accept

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. It's part of why, like what Bar

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<v Speaker 1>was doing here is just like incredibly irresponsible. Just with

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Trump, you can't pull that shit. So

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<v Speaker 1>this means again that at some point, if this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of process goes on, if Trump wins office, if he's

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<v Speaker 1>to carry out something like what Bar was suggesting or

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<v Speaker 1>something like what your r was suggesting, at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's kind of need to use military assets to strike

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico if only to save face. And again, the safest

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<v Speaker 1>thing for him to use would be missiles to basically

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<v Speaker 1>fire missiles, you know, guided missiles at factories or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>making drugs. This avoids risking US servicemen. It certainly avoids

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<v Speaker 1>it's the risk of them getting captured anyway. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>quote from the New York Times against here. At least

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<v Speaker 1>twice during twenty twenty, mister Trump privately asked as Defense

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary mister Esper about the possibility of sending patriot missiles

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<v Speaker 1>into Mexico to destroy the drug labs and whether they

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<v Speaker 1>could blame another country for it. Patriot missiles are not

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<v Speaker 1>the kind that would be used. They are surfaced to

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<v Speaker 1>air weapons, but mister Trump had a habit of calling

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<v Speaker 1>all missiles patriot missiles. According to two former senior administration officials,

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<v Speaker 1>I just find that fuddy, like, man, you are the

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<v Speaker 1>you're the commander in chief, and you don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even know that. Like it's I don't expect

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<v Speaker 1>the president to say, like I want you to fire

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<v Speaker 1>this exact version of missile. You know, that's maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little more granular than is necessary for him to know.

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<v Speaker 1>But like you should know that patriot missiles don't get

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<v Speaker 1>fired at ground targets. That's not what they do. They're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a major part of like our military or

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<v Speaker 1>mince anti missile defense. It's just it's just very silly

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<v Speaker 1>of him. All this nonsense came to a head for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, I'm in twenty twenty when during one

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<v Speaker 1>of these interminable fentanyl meetings, Trump looked over to Defense

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary Mark Esper and asked, can we blow up these

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<v Speaker 1>drug labs with a missile and make it look like

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<v Speaker 1>another country did it?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know, bad, right, Like it brings up a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions, namely, like what other country is in

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<v Speaker 1>a position to fire missiles into Mexico, right, Like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, oh, it wasn't US, are you saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>Canada because they'd have to kind of cross a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of space to do that. He's saying Guatemalas firing missiles

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<v Speaker 1>into Mexico because it doesn't really seem like a Guatemala move.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, who are you going to blame? Thankfully, Esper

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those rare Trump appointees who possessed a

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<v Speaker 1>basic minimal capacity for rational thought, and we never, thankfully

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<v Speaker 1>got the answer to the question what would have happened

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<v Speaker 1>if he'd fired a missile into Mexico. Esper argued against

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<v Speaker 1>the idea, and then he wrote about it in his memoir,

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<v Speaker 1>which I have an issue with. He's one of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys who, yeah, maybe we should have known about that

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<v Speaker 1>when it happened, rather than waiting for your fucking book.

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<v Speaker 1>But people got to get paid.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Reactions from Mexico to these revelations about Trump considering missiling

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<v Speaker 1>them and now the fact that he's got on his

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<v Speaker 1>website like our plan is to use military assets to

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<v Speaker 1>attack the cartels, reactions from Mexico have been pretty universally

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<v Speaker 1>negative for reasons I probably don't need to elaborate on.

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<v Speaker 1>President Lopez Obrador told reporters in March, quote, this initiative

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<v Speaker 1>of the Republicans, besides being irresponsible, is an offense to

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<v Speaker 1>the people of Mexico, a lack of respect to our independence,

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<v Speaker 1>to our sovereignty. They do not change their attitude and

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<v Speaker 1>think they are going to use Mexico for their propaganda,

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<v Speaker 1>their electoral and political purposes. We are going to call

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<v Speaker 1>for not voting for this party because it is interventionalist

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<v Speaker 1>and human, hypocritical and corrupt. I don't know he's wrong there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much ability the president of Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>has to shift votes in the United States. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it is interesting. You don't often hear a world leader,

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<v Speaker 1>specific particularly not of the US's largest trading partner, say

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to take sides in an election, not

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<v Speaker 1>that openly at least, but you know who never takes

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<v Speaker 1>sides except for your side, because they're always on your side.

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<v Speaker 1>The products and services that support this podcast and or program.

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<v Speaker 4>We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>So the opposition candidate in next year's Mexican presidential elections

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<v Speaker 1>also made a statement that was it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more moderated than obradors, but it belittled Trump's comments

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<v Speaker 1>about using military force on Mexico and stated, rather than threats,

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<v Speaker 1>we should work in a smart way. So nobody's really

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<v Speaker 1>happy with this down in Mexico. Not surprising to see why. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>in US politics, conservatives are now falling over themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>justify military intervention in Mexico. As soon as Trump adopts this,

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<v Speaker 1>it now becomes basically the standard Republican line that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to be sending our special forces guys in to

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<v Speaker 1>fight the fucking cartels. I'm not going to go over

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<v Speaker 1>a laundry list of all the dumbfucks who have embraced

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<v Speaker 1>this crap idea, but I do want to read one

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<v Speaker 1>quote from an ABC News article quote House Oversight Committee

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<v Speaker 1>Chairman James Comer, Republican Kentucky, on Tuesdays said that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a mistake that then President Donald Trump did not

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<v Speaker 1>bomb meth labs in Mexico after he had reportedly asked

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<v Speaker 1>his Defense secretary about the possibility in twenty twenty. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the things we learned post Trump presidency is that

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<v Speaker 1>he had ordered a bombing of a couple fentanyl labs

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<v Speaker 1>crystal meth labs in Mexico just across the border, and

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, the military didn't do it. Comer said

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<v Speaker 1>on Fox and Friends, I think that was a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to discuss for a second how impossible

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<v Speaker 1>it is for this plan to work. As I noted earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>there are drug labs in Mexico, quite a few of them,

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<v Speaker 1>making a variety and not just making, but in many

2:32:53.320 --> 2:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>cases taking drugs that come from elsewhere and basically packaging

2:32:56.400 --> 2:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>them in a way that they can be sold or smuggled.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, those facilities certainly exists, but they are not

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<v Speaker 1>like the large centralized factories that I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>a military rival would use to produce tanks. Right, most

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<v Speaker 1>of this work, even if it is currently being done

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<v Speaker 1>in a sizable facility, can be done in smaller facilities

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<v Speaker 1>and can be moved pretty readily. And again, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not very intelligent to think that you can cripple this

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<v Speaker 1>the same way you can cripple an enemy's ability to

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<v Speaker 1>produce missiles or tanks. And even then that's not easy.

2:33:28.680 --> 2:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>We're actually really bad at it. We've repeatedly during wars

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<v Speaker 1>bombed countries to attempt to destroy their ability to produce

2:33:36.879 --> 2:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>munitions and failed to really do that to a substantial extent.

2:33:40.879 --> 2:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>And so something like the narcotics industry, which is even

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<v Speaker 1>more underground, even more hard to identify by nature of

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's a big ask on the surface, right.

2:33:52.400 --> 2:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>It's also worth laying out why it's done as hell

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<v Speaker 1>to conflate drug cartels with ISIS, because a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of why Trump, how Trump thinks things are going to go,

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<v Speaker 1>is like, well, Isis took over Raka, took over Moses,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we beat them up, you know, we kicked

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<v Speaker 1>the crap out of them, We destroyed ISIS. That's what

2:34:10.000 --> 2:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>he I think, that's literally what he thinks happens, and

2:34:12.240 --> 2:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it's certainly what he wants his voters to think happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not really what happened. Right when the physical

2:34:17.720 --> 2:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>caliphate was liberated, ISIS went underground, and they are still

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<v Speaker 1>there and still have the potential to take a whole

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<v Speaker 1>territory again. ISIS attacks in both Iraq and Syria have

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<v Speaker 1>been raising steadily for years. There's a lot of reasons

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<v Speaker 1>for this. Big part of why things have gotten worse

2:34:33.080 --> 2:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>in Syria is that the Biden administration has done fuck

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<v Speaker 1>all to stop the Turkish government from attacking the autonomous

2:34:39.560 --> 2:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>region Rojava. Who are the folks who defeated ISIS in Syria?

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<v Speaker 1>And that has degraded their capacity to keep a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>lit on thing. So number one, this victory, he claims,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a total victory. And number two, the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>ISIS was knocked out of you know, Mosl and knocked

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<v Speaker 1>out of most of their territorial claims fairly short period

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<v Speaker 1>of time was because of a couple of things. Number One,

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<v Speaker 1>the US was providing support, but we were not carrying

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<v Speaker 1>out either operation on our own in both Iraq and Syria.

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<v Speaker 1>We were supporting other extant militant groups that had a

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<v Speaker 1>long history and a decent amount of support in the region,

2:35:18.320 --> 2:35:20.959
<v Speaker 1>right And number two, and maybe you can make the

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<v Speaker 1>claim that that's the case with the Mexican army, But the

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<v Speaker 1>other aspect is that Isis were not guys who had

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<v Speaker 1>been in charge for forever in that region and had

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<v Speaker 1>deep bases. Most of them were foreigners, and they were

2:35:32.320 --> 2:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>foreigners who had very quickly taken urban areas and then

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<v Speaker 1>started running them like dog shit cartels have existed for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot longer. They have effectively and do effectively rule

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<v Speaker 1>large chunks of Mexico and have done so for longer

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<v Speaker 1>than ISIS has existed. They have deep networks of local

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<v Speaker 1>ties and in many areas a reputation for providing services

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<v Speaker 1>better than the Mexican government has done. I don't say

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<v Speaker 1>this to whitewash how horrible these organizations are, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are not ISIS, which just came up seemingly out of

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<v Speaker 1>no where, took over a bunch of cities and then

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<v Speaker 1>got fucking kicked out, and you know, never had a

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<v Speaker 1>huge base of support among the populace, particularly in Iraq,

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<v Speaker 1>because again there were just some assholes who showed up

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<v Speaker 1>one day as opposed to the cartels, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially once the US starts bombing Mexico and killing Mexican civilians,

2:36:19.320 --> 2:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>which will happen anytime we're bombing them. Just the idea,

2:36:23.120 --> 2:36:25.959
<v Speaker 1>the amount of support it could potentially build for the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking cartels is substantial. But even beyond that, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you could knock these beat people out easily, they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, they have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep base of support, a deep history in these areas.

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<v Speaker 1>They have functioned for a long time, not just running

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<v Speaker 1>things but also constantly fighting against a military and the

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<v Speaker 1>government that has a degree of capacity and technology at

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<v Speaker 1>its back. So the idea that like, you're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to kick these guys out of whatever. Sonora,

2:36:58.720 --> 2:37:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the way that you know isis was quote unquote kicked

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<v Speaker 1>out of Mosel. It's fanciful rights. It's a farce. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of farces, I want to talk about kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that we should all see is the model

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<v Speaker 1>for what might actually how it would actually work if

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<v Speaker 1>Trump tried to go into Mexico to take out the cartels.

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<v Speaker 1>And this brings me back to Afghanistan. Right during Trump's administration,

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Defense was empowered by the President to

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<v Speaker 1>use vastly more force and their attempts to destroy Taliban

2:37:30.320 --> 2:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>drug labs. Obviously, Taliban funded a lot of their war

2:37:33.560 --> 2:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>effort with the sale of opium, you know, aeroin whatever,

2:37:37.959 --> 2:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and it was you know, believed that if we can

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<v Speaker 1>cut if we can destroy their ability to grow and

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<v Speaker 1>process this stuff, we can cut the legs out from

2:37:47.360 --> 2:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>underneath the Taliban. And Trump really bought into this and

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<v Speaker 1>allowed the DoD to accelerate their efforts to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Our forces started carrying out a mix of air strikes

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<v Speaker 1>and special operations attacks on talent Lebhan drug labs in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen. It is the same plan that they executed

2:38:04.760 --> 2:38:07.280
<v Speaker 1>that Trump is pushing for the United States to use

2:38:07.320 --> 2:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>in Mexico and in Afghanistan. This plan was such an

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<v Speaker 1>abysmal failure that not only did it not stop drug production,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually accelerated the production of opiates in fucking Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 1>at the highest level in recorded history. This program failed

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<v Speaker 1>so badly that the Pentagon ended their strikes on drug

2:38:27.800 --> 2:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>labs in twenty nineteen. They gave up in two years

2:38:30.600 --> 2:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't couldn't do it. They were bad at it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that this kind of plan that Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>pushed would undeniably fail to actually destroy the cartels to

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<v Speaker 1>stop drugs and human trafficking across the border, this does

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<v Speaker 1>not mean that it would actually be a failure for

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons that Trump and many other Republicans wanted to fail,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that declaring war on cartels allows them to

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<v Speaker 1>justify a major power grap and destroy or in the

2:38:56.120 --> 2:39:00.120
<v Speaker 1>lives of US citizens they already see as enemies. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to say that this is more serious

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<v Speaker 1>than the lives that will be lost in Mexico. It's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not, but this is very serious as well. Last October,

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<v Speaker 1>a think tank, the Center for Renewing America, published a

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<v Speaker 1>policy paper with the fun title It's Time to wage

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<v Speaker 1>War on Transnational Drug Cartels. Paper makes it clear that

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<v Speaker 1>illegal immigration is just as much a priority as fentannel

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<v Speaker 1>and carrying out these actions, and in fact, it lists

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<v Speaker 1>the goals of this planned military policy in Mexico this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, ending the illegal flow of people trafficking victims

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<v Speaker 1>and drugs across the southern border. Now, the paper suggests

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<v Speaker 1>creating a new classification that is similar but different to

2:39:43.760 --> 2:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>foreign terrorist organization for the cartels. It lists a series

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<v Speaker 1>of escalatory stages that Trump's administration should take, starting with

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<v Speaker 1>putting pressure on the Mexican government to take care of

2:39:55.800 --> 2:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>things themselves. And since the Mexican government is not really

2:39:59.400 --> 2:40:02.560
<v Speaker 1>capable of pre of ending a present of ending either

2:40:02.680 --> 2:40:06.720
<v Speaker 1>migration or drug cartels, escalation is inevitable. So after this

2:40:06.760 --> 2:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>phase fails, phase two is to have the President start

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<v Speaker 1>deploying military units, initially to interdict the coast, but also

2:40:14.160 --> 2:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to coordinate with the DEA to target and kill cartel

2:40:16.920 --> 2:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>figures and destroy their assets. US ports will be closed

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<v Speaker 1>whenever the number of illegal immigrant apprehensions that the border

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<v Speaker 1>increases past a certain level. Right, So they are also saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and again you get the feeling from this paper. While

2:40:31.320 --> 2:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Trump always harps on the drugs and the horrors of fentanyl,

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<v Speaker 1>is very clear from this paper there is concerned and

2:40:38.080 --> 2:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>if not more concerned about the fact that non white

2:40:40.680 --> 2:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>people are entering the country. Quote. While costly to the economy,

2:40:45.600 --> 2:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>this closing ports would incentivize the Mexican government to crack

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<v Speaker 1>down on human smugglers, migrant caravans, and cartel trafficking networks.

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<v Speaker 1>Now into the fourth and final phase of this plan,

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<v Speaker 1>the US government would basically carry out a full scale

2:40:59.000 --> 2:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>invasion of parts of Mexico in order to defeat cartels

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<v Speaker 1>and secure the border. At no point are there any

2:41:04.959 --> 2:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>suggestions made as to how this might be done or

2:41:07.720 --> 2:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>why it would be more successful than the attempts that

2:41:10.480 --> 2:41:13.840
<v Speaker 1>failed in Afghanistan. Instead, they just move right onto the

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<v Speaker 1>last phase, the victory phase, which includes these suggestions. Congress

2:41:19.160 --> 2:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>should enact legislation that creates enhanced penalties for US citizens

2:41:22.680 --> 2:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>found guilty of collaborating with the cartels. Punishment should include

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<v Speaker 1>mandatory minimum federal sentencing of fifteen years in prison for

2:41:29.760 --> 2:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>working with cartels labeled as transnational criminal organizations, and mandatory

2:41:34.400 --> 2:41:37.199
<v Speaker 1>minimum sentencing of twenty five years in prison for working

2:41:37.280 --> 2:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>with cartels labeled under the new Cartel statutory guidelines. Congress

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<v Speaker 1>should enact legislation that defines material and financial supports for

2:41:45.040 --> 2:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the cartels designated under the new statutory framework as tantamount

2:41:48.840 --> 2:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>to engaging in terrorism against the United States. This basically means,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how this is written, it could mean that

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<v Speaker 1>doing drugs, possessing drugs, having friends who sell or use

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<v Speaker 1>drugs could mean that you're committing terrorism by supporting the cartels.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not impossible that that is how this law,

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<v Speaker 1>these laws, should they be actually put on the books, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>should this program be enacted, that's not impossible that that's

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<v Speaker 1>how it would be interpreted. And why wouldn't they want

2:42:17.760 --> 2:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to write this would allow them to lock up a

2:42:20.040 --> 2:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>shitload of people that they see as being on the left.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think back to Richard Nixon, A big reason

2:42:25.200 --> 2:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>why and this is a stated reason why you know

2:42:28.959 --> 2:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the war on marijuana was escalated is that it lets

2:42:31.920 --> 2:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you arrest the fucking hippies and anti war protesters and

2:42:34.760 --> 2:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>put them in prison. You know, that is a big

2:42:37.560 --> 2:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>part of what a lot of people in Trump's orbit

2:42:40.120 --> 2:42:42.720
<v Speaker 1>want to do with this. And I say that because

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who wrote this fucking thing is a dude

2:42:44.800 --> 2:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>named kN Kuchinelli. Ken is a major anti left culture warfucker.

2:42:50.320 --> 2:42:52.879
<v Speaker 1>One of his jobs under Trump was he worked under

2:42:52.959 --> 2:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Chad Wolfe, who was the illegally the director of the

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<v Speaker 1>DHS during the twenty twenty uprising. In sept Timber of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, he ordered the intelligence branch of the Department

2:43:04.160 --> 2:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>of Homeland Security to downplay threats by white supremacists and

2:43:08.440 --> 2:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>instead focus on the danger of Antifa. Under his watch,

2:43:12.280 --> 2:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>DHS also compiled and tel reports on journalists in Portland, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>Might have some issue with this guy personally, and defended

2:43:19.760 --> 2:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the abduction by federal agents of civilians in unmarked vehicles, right,

2:43:23.680 --> 2:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, when people were being abducted off the streets

2:43:25.640 --> 2:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>of Portland. He was a big fan of that. Ken

2:43:27.600 --> 2:43:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Guchinelli really likes that idea. He is also essentially a

2:43:30.760 --> 2:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>white nationalist himself. In August of twenty nineteen, he announced

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<v Speaker 1>a revised regulation to go into effect October fifteenth, twenty nineteen,

2:43:39.400 --> 2:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that expanded the public charge requirements for legal immigration made

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<v Speaker 1>it harder to get green cards and visas if you

2:43:46.240 --> 2:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>were poor. Basically, he stopped. He made basically, if we

2:43:50.720 --> 2:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>might need something like food stamps, it's harder to get,

2:43:53.720 --> 2:43:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, to immigrate legally to the United States. He

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<v Speaker 1>was asked, doesn't this kind of contradict, you know, that

2:43:59.400 --> 2:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>poem on the Statue of Liberty about welcoming you know,

2:44:02.480 --> 2:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>poor and persecuted people. Kucinelli suggested a revision to the

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<v Speaker 1>poem on the Statute of Liberty, On the Statue of Liberty,

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<v Speaker 1>give me you're tired and you're poor, who can stand

2:44:12.000 --> 2:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>on their own two feet, and who will not become

2:44:13.879 --> 2:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a public charge. So that's that's cool. He also made

2:44:18.680 --> 2:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a point that the poem referred to European immigrants, so

2:44:22.200 --> 2:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, fuck those non white people, right, you know,

2:44:25.240 --> 2:44:27.879
<v Speaker 1>like the poem was never meant for them. He's a

2:44:27.920 --> 2:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>fucking nazi, right, He's a white nationalist at the very least,

2:44:31.360 --> 2:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like kN Kuchinelli is the kind of person that a

2:44:33.200 --> 2:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>decent society would google what the Romans did with the

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<v Speaker 1>Tarpeian rocks when they had someone who was a trader

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<v Speaker 1>to their system, and that's what should happen to Ken Cuccinelli.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead he's trying to get the US military to

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<v Speaker 1>invade Mexico. So that's good anyway, that's a Trump's Agenda

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven policy on the cartels. I hope you all

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