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Speaker 2: Welcome to it could happen here. The show about how

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Speaker 2: a small group of people are trying to keep making

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Speaker 2: bad things happen, and we're going to tell you what

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Speaker 2: they are. I'm Garrison Davis and joined with me is

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Speaker 2: doctor James Stout. Hello, doctor, Hi Garrison. Thank thank you

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Speaker 2: for having me put some respect on my name.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: So today we're going to be talking about something called

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Speaker 2: Agenda forty seven, and actually we're going to be talking

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Speaker 2: about this this whole week. We've gotten a lot of

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Speaker 2: quests to talk about the Heritage Foundations Project twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: which is a kind of an a roadmap for how

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Speaker 2: and quite big. It's a massive, massive book.

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Speaker 2: Trump certainly listens to these types of guys, but he

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Speaker 3: Okay, he does what the fuck he wants. And again,

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Speaker 3: no one controlling Trump.

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Speaker 2: He kind of does whatever he wants, right, Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: that is called Agenda forty seven, which I believe is

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Speaker 2: So the next the next, the next few episodes, we're

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Speaker 2: It's just amazing. Also, all of the videos are embedded

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Speaker 3: It's perfect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have you have opinions on it?

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Speaker 3: That's already The American Academy is already, But is he

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Speaker 3: Okay, So it's a place not like the institution.

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Speaker 3: It seems to look like if your world made thats education.

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Speaker 2: It's a world class education after you gather an entire

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Speaker 2: Not quite the content. It's not just a library because quote,

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Speaker 2: Whether you want lectures or an ancient history, or an

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Speaker 2: Furthermore, Donald Trump promised that at American Academy. Quote, there

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Speaker 3: How will I teach without you? H My personal jihad

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Speaker 2: So this plan also seeks to help the forty million

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Speaker 3: The other recognize him as fucking useless.

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Speaker 4: Not degrees.

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Speaker 2: This is just another Trump University, an uncredited scam that

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Speaker 2: Do not, I repeat, do not send me any of

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Speaker 2: while this Trump University too will remain uncredited. Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: You have finally the reparations people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. You know who's had it too hard

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Speaker 2: It's it's because they didn't get to it's because they

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Speaker 2: You can't say that you're gonna turn your community college

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is a man who himself went

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Speaker 2: No, he did not go to either. He was sent

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Speaker 3: Critical respect to his dad.

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Speaker 2: So the reason why this is also evils because Trump

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Speaker 2: His administration will quote aggressively pursue potential violations of the

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Speaker 3: that luckily we do Russian Orthodox Marxism at my university,

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Speaker 3: so we should say, god, yeah, well a lot of beards.

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Speaker 2: So and then, in kind of like a laundry list

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Speaker 2: of policies and talking points, Trump pledged to quote veto

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Speaker 2: the sinister effort to weaponize civics education, we will keep

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Speaker 2: men out of women's sports and will create a new

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Speaker 2: credentialing body that'll be the gold standard anywhere in the

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Speaker 2: world to certified teachers who embrace patriotic values, support a

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Speaker 2: way of life, and understand that their job is not

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Speaker 2: to indoctrinate children but very simply to educate them.

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Speaker 3: No one's ever done. No one has ever created a

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Speaker 3: credentialing body for patriotic teachers who embrace quote our way

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Speaker 3: of life before, it's never been done.

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Speaker 2: Sinister efforts to weaponize civics.

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Speaker 3: Just imagine him looking for looking for the Civics bill. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: very funny, So probably distract him for a while. Stuff,

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Speaker 3: I'm doing some actual terrible shit.

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Speaker 2: A little bit with that last part was like indoctrinating children,

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Speaker 2: And this next little bit will kind of demonstrate how

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Speaker 2: stuff like QAnon didn't simply go away like some have postulated. Instead,

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Speaker 2: it's just been absorbed into the fabric of American politics.

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Speaker 2: No longer does the boogeyman have to be a DNC

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Speaker 2: pedophilic elite. Now it's been deterritorialized and destroyed and mutated

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Speaker 2: into just being any school teacher and or like every

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Speaker 2: trans person right or God forbid a transgender school say,

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Speaker 2: which is like the prime evil of the current conservative society.

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Speaker 2: And Trump promises on day one of his new presidency

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Speaker 2: he will he will quote begin to find and remove

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Speaker 2: the radicals, Zealots, and Marxists who have infiltrated the Department

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Speaker 2: of Education, and that also includes others. And you know

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Speaker 2: who you are, because we are not going to allow

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Speaker 2: anyone to hurt our children.

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Speaker 4: You know who you are. You know who you are.

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Speaker 2: So this is the weaponization of nearly eight years of

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Speaker 2: QAnon rhetoric, right, that is, that has grown past the

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Speaker 2: need to actually invoke QAnon, plus the two years of

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party, the daily wire and limbs of TikTok

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Speaker 2: working to shift q Andon's kind of disgraced and unfocused

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Speaker 2: momentum towards a manufactured continuation in the form of this

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Speaker 2: transgender groomer craze that's taking over American schools. Quote, Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden has given these lunatics unchecked power. I will have

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Speaker 2: them fired and escorted from the building. And I will

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Speaker 2: tell Congress that any appropriations bill I sign must reaffirm

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Speaker 2: the president's ability to remove defined employees from the job.

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Speaker 2: It's all about our children unquote.

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Speaker 3: Just imagining an executive order to remove someone from the lecture.

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Speaker 2: I am going to be signing an executive order on

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Speaker 2: this podcast to go to another at break, we are

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Speaker 2: back and thank you James for reaffirming my ability to

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Speaker 2: remove defiant ads.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, why you were all away? The several federal

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Speaker 3: agents came in and inserted an ad break.

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Speaker 2: In this last section here, we're going to return to

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Speaker 2: Trump's conception that entire alternatives are needed to America's broken,

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Speaker 2: woke school system, now focusing on the grade school side

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Speaker 2: rather than just the post secondary. So in this vein,

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Speaker 2: Trump is courting the growing number of homeschooling families, though

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Speaker 2: according to a Washington Post poll from last year, Republican

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Speaker 2: homeschoolers outnumbered Democrat ones two to one, so he kind

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Speaker 2: of already has the majority of that vote. But still

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Speaker 2: something he is going after. According to Trump, ever since

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Speaker 2: quote the China virus, America has seen an estimated thirty

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Speaker 2: present increase in homeschool enrollment unquote. It's just a funny

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Speaker 2: term as homeschool in roll.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just going to the homeschool to enroll.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be enrolling in homeschool. Very funny. An if

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Speaker 2: elective president for a second time, he will do everything

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Speaker 2: to support quote parents who make the courageous choice of

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Speaker 2: home school unquote. Again, the way he uses home the

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Speaker 2: word homeschool is unlike anyone else I've ever heard of.

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Speaker 2: Talk it is. It is a very odd use of

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Speaker 2: the English language.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't seem to understand parts of.

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Speaker 2: Speech like no, no, And Trump said he'll work to

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Speaker 2: ensure that homeschoolers will be entitled to all the benefits

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Speaker 2: available to non homeschool students, like being able to participate

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Speaker 2: in athletic programs, clubs, atter school activities, educational trips, and more.

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Speaker 2: He pledged that in his next term, he will allow

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Speaker 2: five to nine education savings accounts to be used for

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Speaker 2: quote costs associated with homeschool education. A current five to

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Speaker 2: nine savings accounts families to withdraw up to ten thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars a year to spend tax free on tuition for

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Speaker 2: private schools, which Trump called a quote tremendous win for

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Speaker 2: a school choice, very important school choice. To remember that

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Speaker 2: term unquote. That term never comes up again in this video. Great.

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Speaker 2: So Trump is planning to expand this tuition savings program

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Speaker 2: to include homeschooling families as well, with a very unknown

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Speaker 2: system of checks and balances to determine what exactly qualifies

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Speaker 2: as costs related to homeschooling. And often homeschooling is used

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Speaker 2: by abusive parents to just have kids do free labor

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Speaker 2: around the house, and they try to make it count

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Speaker 2: as like education. And like if you're now allowing parents

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Speaker 2: to put money into a savings account to remove ten

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Speaker 2: thousand a year tax free spent on education, like what

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Speaker 2: does what does that mean? Does that mean just curriculum?

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Speaker 2: Does that mean like household supplies because that's being put

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Speaker 2: towards their homeschool because they're schooling at home. Like very

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Speaker 2: very unclear, And it's kind of refers back to some

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Speaker 2: of the general problems homeschooling, especially in like conservative homeschooling

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Speaker 2: or just as a large way to abuse children not

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Speaker 2: in like the groomer way that right wing people talk about.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, you're just literally like limiting your kids'

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Speaker 2: access to the outside world because you think if they

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Speaker 2: go outside they're gonna turn gay. So but even if

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Speaker 2: oh sorry, there's there's one one final quote from this

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Speaker 2: homeschooling video, which are just fucking phenomenal to every homeschool family.

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Speaker 2: I will be your champion. Do not vote Democrat. They're

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Speaker 2: looking to destroy you. If you don't mind me saying

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Speaker 2: that Joe Biden can't put two sentences together, and yet

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Speaker 2: he's looking to destroy you. Do not vote Democrat. Do

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Speaker 2: not vote for crook and Joe vote for honest Donald,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much. It's funny because in the video

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Speaker 2: when he says vote for honest Donald, he also starts

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Speaker 2: to crack up because he knows how ridiculousness is. God,

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Speaker 2: I vote for croaking Joe, vote for Arnest Nuddled, Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, Very very cool. They're looking to destroy

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Speaker 2: you if you don't might be saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't mind me, a man who rarely

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Speaker 3: asked permission to say the most exane shit.

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Speaker 2: So even if parents are not choosing to homeschool. Trump

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Speaker 2: wants to let voters know that he will fight for parents' rights,

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Speaker 2: which isn't quite a dog whistle, but it does refer

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Speaker 2: to a very specific style of patriarchal rhetoric popularized by

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Speaker 2: hyper religious conservative think tanks that propose an extremely narrow

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Speaker 2: version of how the American family should operate within society.

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Speaker 2: More on this later, But so what can Trump do

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Speaker 2: to let right wing religious parents know that he will

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Speaker 2: be their champion even in like blue states or big cities.

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Speaker 2: As much as Trump might want to be a dictator,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have unlimited power to impose his war on

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Speaker 2: wokeness in liberal cities. But Donald Trump, who was impeached

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Speaker 2: for trying to blackmail the president of Ukraine in summer

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Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen, does have a plan. He wants to

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Speaker 2: quote implement massive funding preferences and favorable treatment unquote for

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Speaker 2: states and school districts that make four specific quote historic

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Speaker 2: reforms and education that Trump has decreed. These four specific

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Speaker 2: reforms include abolishing tenure for K through twelve teachers so

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Speaker 2: that we can quote remove bad teachers and adopt merit

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Speaker 2: pay to reward good teachers. The second is to quote

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Speaker 2: drastically cut the blowed number of school administrators, including the

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Speaker 2: costly and divisive and unnecessary DEI bureaucracy. Third to adopt

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Speaker 2: a parental bill of rights that includes complete curriculum transparency

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Speaker 2: in a form of universal school choice. And lastly, quote

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Speaker 2: implement the direct election of school principles by the parents.

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Speaker 2: Trump calls this last bit the ultimate form of local control,

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Speaker 2: something our country has never had, or at least has

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Speaker 2: not had for the last fifty years. So those are

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Speaker 2: his four reform plans, which is like, yeah, you know

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Speaker 2: who's had it too easy for too long, teachers. Let's

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Speaker 2: abolish ten year adopt merit pay a disaster of a system,

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Speaker 2: cut administrative roles, put more work on teachers, have parents

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Speaker 2: be able to fire fire principles by voting, and a

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Speaker 2: vote to elect their own principle, and universal school choices

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Speaker 2: is actually more of a dog whistle that it just

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Speaker 2: refers to a series of like very racist, like urban

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Speaker 2: planning policies to direct rich white people's funding into a

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Speaker 2: very few, selected number of schools instead of where they

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Speaker 2: actually like live and instead of the actual district they

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Speaker 2: live in. So there's all of that, and like what

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Speaker 2: Trump keeps coming back to. Among all these quote unquote reforms,

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Speaker 2: it all kind of relates to complete parental dominance. And

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Speaker 2: part of this was the parental Bill of Rights, which

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Speaker 2: you've probably seen some conservatives talking about more these past

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Speaker 2: few years. And this is another quote from Trump here.

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Speaker 2: It's all about the parents for their children, more than

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Speaker 2: anyone else. Parents know what their children need. And if

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Speaker 2: you haven't heard of a parental bill of rights directly,

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Speaker 2: you most certainly have heard of one by another name

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Speaker 2: that don't say gay bill that was a parental rights bill,

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Speaker 2: a sensibly targeting education, but these bills often end up

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Speaker 2: giving parents just complete control over every aspect of the

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Speaker 2: child's life. They dictate how children are allowed to express

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Speaker 2: themselves and allow parents to impose nearly any discipline or punishment.

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Speaker 2: They desire total control over what the child eats, what

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Speaker 2: they wear, what they read, what they watch, what they

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Speaker 2: see online, and what they're allowed to learn in school,

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Speaker 2: who they're allowed to socialize with. Some of these bills

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Speaker 2: that I read through for this also bar mandatory masking

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Speaker 2: policies and schools back when that was the thing, and

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Speaker 2: then are often full of anti vax talking points and

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Speaker 2: attempts to ban sex ed and quote unquote gender politics.

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Speaker 2: As a part of these bills, teachers in school administration

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Speaker 2: are legally required to act as parental surveillance tools to

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Speaker 2: report how a child behaves, how they socialize, how they dress,

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Speaker 2: how they like to be referred to, and who they

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Speaker 2: are friends with. This includes outing children as gay or

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Speaker 2: trans to parents if anyone in the school suspects that

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Speaker 2: the student has a non heterosexual sexual orientation or is

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Speaker 2: acting in any way inconsistent with their assigned gender at birth.

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Speaker 2: These types of bills often have other consequences as well.

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Speaker 2: In states where some of these bills have passed, like

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Speaker 2: North Carolina, due to legal risks, some elementary schools have

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Speaker 2: been unable to talk about or give out educational materials

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Speaker 2: on consent or how to identify when child sexual abuse

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Speaker 2: is taking place as a part of the Safe Touch programs.

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Speaker 2: These programs are basically unable to happen because teachers will

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Speaker 2: now be held personally legally liable if any parent objects

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Speaker 2: to this material. So parental rights bills have been signed

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Speaker 2: into law in six states over the past two legislative years,

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Speaker 2: famously Florida as well as Arizona, Georgia, Louisiana, Iowa, and

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Speaker 2: North Carolina. Since then, similar bills have been introduced to

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Speaker 2: more than twenty five states, many of which have passed

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Speaker 2: through at least one chamber. Some of them are still

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Speaker 2: in the process of either passing through a second chape

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Speaker 2: or being signed by the governor. Yeah, I'm gonna end

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Speaker 2: with two quotes here from uh from Trump that kind

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Speaker 2: of reiterate this this this parental dominance thing that he's

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Speaker 2: really pushing for. And also people like Ronda Santists have

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Speaker 2: been pushing forward Tad Cruz, a lot of a lot

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Speaker 2: of a lot of writing politicians quote as the saying goes,

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Speaker 2: personnel is policy. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: if we have pink haired communists teaching our kids, we

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Speaker 2: have a major problem. When I'm president, we will put

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Speaker 2: parents back in charge and give them the final say.

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Speaker 2: We will get back to teaching reading, writing, and math

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Speaker 2: called arithmetic, and we will kill our kids the high

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Speaker 2: quality pro American education they deserve. They're gonna teach you

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Speaker 2: math called arithmetic, magnificence amazing. We may spend the most,

660
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Speaker 2: but we're going to be tops in education no matter,

661
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Speaker 2: no matter where you go anywhere in the world. We're

662
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Speaker 2: gonna be top in education.

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Speaker 3: There will be no bottoms in the American education system

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Speaker 3: going forward.

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Speaker 2: So this is this is Donald Trump, the second host

666
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Speaker 2: of the TV show The Apprentice, who is run for

667
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Speaker 2: public office. This is his plan for education. Doctor jam Stout,

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Speaker 2: how do you feel about about these education reform proposals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't seem like a rare idea,

670
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Speaker 3: if I'm being honest, Having having listened to it, I

671
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: think perhaps he hasn't got the uh, the sharpest grasp

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Speaker 3: on what's going on in the education system. The reason

673
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: we have education is because your parents don't necessarily know

674
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Speaker 3: what's best for you, right, Like.

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Speaker 2: Your parents can't be an expert in everything.

676
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: Yes, so some of us go and get PhDs so

677
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: we can, and then we teach your people how the

678
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 3: important things about that, like you're by definition your parents

679
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: cannot fulfill all the roles in an education system fulfills and.

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Speaker 2: Like unlike pink haired communists who have complete who have

681
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Speaker 2: complete total control over every aspect of what a child

682
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Speaker 2: should learn.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the things when you enter the university,

684
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Speaker 3: you know, like they did a tuberculosis test and then

685
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: they pass you a pink hair dye, and I mean

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00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: you get a nose piercing as well.

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Speaker 2: A lot of this is very much reminiscent of like

688
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Speaker 2: the the fears of like communist education that you see

689
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Speaker 2: in like the nineteen thirties. How there's a lot of

690
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Speaker 2: political a lot of political tension trying to be raised

691
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Speaker 2: over the fear that there's communists teaching you in universities

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Speaker 2: and schools.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It's interesting because at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Like Frankfurt school style stuff.

695
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've written a lot about like anarchist ideals

696
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Speaker 3: educational ideals, right, so at the same time, they were

697
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Speaker 3: anarchists in Spain being like, you know, we should we

698
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Speaker 3: should do all our classes in the forest. Let's just

699
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Speaker 3: go out into the forest. Or absolutely there was a

700
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Speaker 3: school by the sea where they talked kids like they

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Speaker 3: were just having this incredible utopian education dream, which in

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Speaker 3: many ways we still haven't adapted to some of the

703
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: things that that really could offer, and instead, yeah, we're

704
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Speaker 3: having this McCarthyism Part two.

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Speaker 2: Well, great, that is that is Trump's plan for education.

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Speaker 2: In case, in case you didn't know, So watch out

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Speaker 2: for those pink cared communists. Keep an eye out for

708
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 2: any parental bill of rights being proposed in your state,

709
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: and it is probably has little little to do with

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Speaker 2: actually protecting children and more to do with making parents

711
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: just a complete dominating force and controlling every aspect of

712
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Speaker 2: their child's life. And I mean, the other sins we're

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00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: thinking about this is like it removes access to for

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Speaker 2: for kids to talk about things that that they may

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Speaker 2: be upset about.

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Speaker 3: And access to mandated reporters, like exactly, a mandated reporter

717
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: like this seems to exactly gets away from that exactly.

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Speaker 2: And and I mean the idea that that that schools

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Speaker 2: are going to be legally required to out a child

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Speaker 2: if he's if they're acting like perceived to be deviant

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Speaker 2: in some like gender actual way. Like all of these

722
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: things are just ways to enable parental abuse in a

723
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Speaker 2: variety of like ways that are explicit and non explicit.

724
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Speaker 2: And it's it's it's it's it's quite it's quite upsetting.

725
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: And that's the that's the thing that conservatives are currently

726
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Speaker 2: trying to push forward. This is a big topic. This

727
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: stuff was talking about in the Republican primaries that were

728
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: completely useless constantly stuff like this is something this is

729
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Speaker 2: referred to while in evoking this fear of like this

730
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Speaker 2: pink haired transgender communist teacher just currently like the biggest

731
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Speaker 2: threat to America according to most conservatives.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they can take us down from the inside.

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Speaker 2: That and jihadism, which are probably linked somehow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think, Well it's the pink head, your hottest,

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Speaker 3: the famous.

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Speaker 2: Well that isn't for us today. What are we going

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Speaker 2: to be learning about next for Agenda forty seven.

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Speaker 3: Games, Well, we're going to be learning next about immigration

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's border policies. Many of you will be shocked

740
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: to hear that they're not very good. And well, I

741
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: have two classes to sell if you're if you're in

742
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 3: San Diego and you want to get in before they

743
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: take the Marxism out of the education system, you can

744
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Speaker 3: but strike now.

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Speaker 2: I do love how I do love how much of

746
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 2: this is. Like do you know who's had it easy

747
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: for too long? Transgender teachers there they're having.

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Speaker 3: Out yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the people who are so

749
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Speaker 3: fucking broke they have to have like go fundme's up

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Speaker 3: for their gender reassignment surgery, the.

751
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Speaker 2: Great wonderful stuff. Yeah, all right, we will be back

752
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: tomorrow to talk about Trump's border policies, things that will

753
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 2: probably be totally normal, totally chill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very very similar to fucking Faddy. They are

755
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: similar to Biden's, but that's a whole other just terpy.

756
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Speaker 2: That's a whole other discussions. All right, see you on

757
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Speaker 2: the other side. Bye, hello, and welcome.

758
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Speaker 3: DA could happen here Pocus where my friend Garrison Davis

759
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 3: and I inc her countless amounts of trauma by watching

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00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: videos of Donald Trump talking about things he doesn't understand.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing today, Garrison.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing fine and peachy on this wonderful spring afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll sort that out for you. We'll bring you

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Speaker 3: back down because what we gathered here today to discuss, Garrison,

765
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Speaker 3: is that we talked about gender forty seven yesterday. So

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Speaker 3: hopefully people have listened. If you haven't, you know, you

767
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Speaker 3: can go back and understand what gender forty seven is.

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Speaker 3: This short version is that it's Donald Trump's policy platform

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Speaker 3: for his proposed second term. Right, if he gets elected

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, and there is a lot of

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Speaker 3: agenda forty seven, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Breaking down a lot of forty seven. Yeah, yeah, arguably

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Speaker 2: too much agenda forty seven.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so yeah, yeah, one could argue that, I think

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00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 3: quite compellingly, what we're talking about today is his board

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Speaker 3: of immigration policy. And I don't think it'll shock anyone

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Speaker 3: to hear that these are major pillars of forty seven. Right.

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Speaker 3: He kind of launched his political career with an incredibly

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Speaker 3: bigoted speech about migrants, and it's been the real through line,

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Speaker 3: Like the only thing, one of the few things where

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Speaker 3: he actually was able to be efficient enough to do

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Speaker 3: a large amount of harm was at the border and

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Speaker 3: with immigration right, and it certainly seems like he has

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Speaker 3: plans to a lot more in twenty twenty four. Post

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, I guess Biden's tried to counter this

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Speaker 3: by lurching to the right, but he's handled a lot

787
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: of people in the process. But this hasn't stopped Trump

788
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: without taking a breath out flanking him far to the

789
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: right on immigration policy. So that's what we're going to

790
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 3: talk about today. So gender forty seven website. It's structured

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Speaker 3: with a series of these scripted rumble videos which are

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Speaker 3: embedded and then in a spectacular own goal also transcripted,

793
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Speaker 3: which just like like Garrison said yesterday, it is a

794
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: joy to read Donald Trump speaking without hearing Donald Trump speaking,

795
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: it is you never know what coming next, like it

796
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: consistently blindsides you. No one can the best to ever

797
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: do it, and no one, no one could replicate Donald Trump.

798
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Speaker 3: So a lot of the pages detail his proposed actions

799
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Speaker 3: on his first day in office, right what he's going

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Speaker 3: to do with his executive power or which, as we'll

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Speaker 3: go into, he seems to be this is not a

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Speaker 3: man who attended to civic class and paid attention.

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Speaker 2: Well because because it was weaponized.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, he he's loving American didn't

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00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 3: go okay. The other things address like cloudy right wing

806
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: talking points which in many cases kind of either fictional

807
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: or over exaggerated, are not really related to what's going

808
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: on with the border and midration, and he sort of

809
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: proposes quite unquote solutions often it's not exactly clear how

810
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: or if these things are legal, but I think, as

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00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: we'll get into, that doesn't really matter. His big theme

812
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 3: going through all of his immigration content is to end

813
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Speaker 3: what he calls automatic citizenship for children. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to do the voice. I can't do the voice.

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Speaker 2: Because you're cursed with your britishness. Blessed yes, yeah, sure,

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00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 2: yea God chosen people. Okay, yeah, average average Christian identity

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Speaker 2: opinion heverage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, big, big Christian identity opinion have it. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So Donald Trump, right, his big thing is taking a

820
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Speaker 3: swing at the Fourteenth Amendment, right, at birthright citizenship. It's

821
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Speaker 3: very funny that it's not funny. Actually it's quite fucked.

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Speaker 3: But if you're not familiar, the Fourteenth Amendment right was

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Speaker 3: passed after the Civil War, and in the first part

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Speaker 3: of the Fourteenth Amendment, there's a sentence that reads, all

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Speaker 3: persons born or naturalized in the United States and the

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Speaker 3: subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States.

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Speaker 4: Cool.

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Speaker 2: That sounds very simple.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does, doesn't it. It does. What you're not considering

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Speaker 3: garrison is like fringes on the flag tier legal bullshit,

831
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Speaker 3: which Donald Trump and his camp, unsurprisingly are pursuing. We're

832
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: going to get to a little bit about this later.

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Speaker 3: This is they're not the first group of people to

834
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Speaker 3: make ending birth right citizenship the whole thing right. It's

835
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Speaker 3: been a sort of a bugbear on the right for

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00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: a while. So, as I said, the Fonding for Men

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00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 3: was strongly opposed by Confederate States after the Civil War. Right,

838
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Speaker 3: but they were forced to ratify it in order to

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Speaker 3: regain representation in Congress.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get fucked.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So John Donald Trump's now bringing, I guess, coming

843
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Speaker 3: back on behalf of the Confederacy to challenge the Fourteenth

844
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Speaker 3: to make in any such cases in this and many

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Speaker 3: other ways. That's why they call him stone Wall Trump,

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00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: do they they? Yeah? Wait, really no, I don't think

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guarantee, I guarantee. Let's just google it

848
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Speaker 3: real quick. Let's see what comes up Stonewall Trump. It's

849
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Speaker 3: going to be one of two things. Stone Wall really splits. Wow. Okay,

850
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 3: now there's some curse stuff there. Google that your own risk.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

852
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: So the Fourteenth Amendment has been really pivotal in American history.

853
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: It's one of the most litigated amendments to the Constitution.

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00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 6: Right.

855
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: It gave us the Road decision, which has now been overheard,

856
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: give us the Obergefel decision, which legalizes the same sex marriage.

857
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 3: Gave us Brown versus Board of Education. More relevant here

858
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 3: is that it superseded the dread Scott case and shrind

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Speaker 3: in law the right if anyone born in the USA,

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Speaker 3: regardless of race or a snithety to be a citizen,

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Speaker 3: and it has a few exemptions, like I think the

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00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: children of foreign diplomats and visiting heads of state are

863
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: not US citizens. So like King Charles couldn't come over here,

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Speaker 3: have another kid and then have that kid be a

865
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Speaker 3: dual citizen. Trump proposes that he's going to stop this

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Speaker 3: immediately on entering office by executive order.

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Speaker 2: Can you remove an amendment of the Constitution by executive order? James,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a legal expert by any means.

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Speaker 3: No. No, Look, I am a historian of anarchists in Spain.

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Speaker 3: This is not the center of my area of expertise.

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Speaker 3: But I'm pretty confident, like without going full seth Abramson here,

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Speaker 3: that no, you can't. You can't just do that because

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Speaker 3: it certainly feels wrong. Yeah, it seems like it doesn't

874
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: pass the smell test. No, I think if American history

875
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: would be very different if you could change the Constitution

876
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 3: by executive order. But this isn't going to stop Donald

877
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 3: Trump crying. The specific case he has a beef with

878
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: is US versus one kim Ark. It's called it's a

879
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: couple of people who were Chinese nationals who have a

880
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: kid in the United States and the Supreme Court found

881
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: that their kid would citizen right. We don't need to

882
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: go into the case, sure, but Republicans have been on

883
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: this for a long time. I think they really began

884
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: to get concerted momentum behind it during the Obama administration.

885
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: Obviously before Obama was elected, right, Donald Trump sort of

886
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: really entered politics with his birth a lives right and

887
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: this idea that was not a US citizen therefore was

888
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: not eligible for the presidency, and sort of that tendency

889
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: continued in Republican politics. Lindsey Graham, a man who looks

890
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 3: like a melting slath, attempted to introduce a constitutional amendment

891
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 3: during the Obama administration, failed to do so. I don't

892
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: think he actually ever introduced it. I think he just

893
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 3: sort of shopped it around see if he could get support,

894
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: and then failed. This has been a continuing theme since. Actually,

895
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 3: Matt Gates, along with Gosas Santos and some other representatives,

896
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: tried to institu a House resolution last year ending birthright citizenship.

897
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: Trump has also been cooking up some rather unique legal

898
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 3: theories about this for a while. In twenty eighteen, he

899
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: claimed that you don't need a constitutional amendment to change

900
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 3: the fourteenth Amendment. He also repeatedly claimed that birthright citizenship

901
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: is something that's either rare or in some cases, he

902
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: claimed it's unique to the United States, which is not true.

903
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: There are about thirty countries that offer birth right citizenship.

904
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: The legal justification that he offers most often comes from

905
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: someone called John Eastman. Do you know who John Eastman is? Garrison?

906
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: I do not.

907
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 3: Johnny'sman was one of the legal architects of Trump's plan

908
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: to overturn the twenty twenty election.

909
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

910
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: He has also been indicted in the Georgia case against

911
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: Trump and his co conspirators. Johnnysmonan also tried to do

912
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: birth a shit about Kamala Harris. Many of you will

913
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: be able to draw the line between Karmala Harris and

914
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 3: Barack Obama and perhaps the underlying motivation for their birth

915
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: and stuff. But Eastman is contending, I guess that the

916
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: quote subjects to the jurisdiction thereof element of the fourteenth

917
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: Amendment means that somehow people who live in the United States,

918
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: work in the United States, and pay tax in the

919
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: United States are not subject to its jurisdiction if they're

920
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 3: not citizens themselves, which look, it doesn't matter how Like

921
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 3: I think the big thing I want you guys to

922
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 3: take away from this is but everything he wants to

923
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: do is probably illegal, and none of that really matters, right,

924
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: because we'll have a court like he's he's got a

925
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: Supreme Court which has but it's packed with Republicans, right,

926
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 3: and it.

927
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: Has constantly affirmed his ability to do crimes and get

928
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: off with basically no punk.

929
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, like, this is a man who tried to

930
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: do a coup and it's standing for election again, Like

931
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: the court system is not going to save us. If

932
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 3: he has enough time and he can and enough political will,

933
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: he will try and do this. And I think it's

934
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: not unreasonable to expect that he will attempt buy executive

935
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: order on the first day of his presidency to take

936
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: birthright citizenship away from the children of undocumented migrants. Garrison,

937
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: do you know what won't take rights away from your children?

938
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: I forget what food service box we have and therefore

939
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 2: cannot make jokes about on air. But it's one of them.

940
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: One of them can, one of them can't. And you

941
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: have to know which one, whatever one advertises, is the

942
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: good one.

943
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, always it'll be when they speak really fast at

944
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: the end, just just slow that down. You hear them

945
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: talking about your children. We're back. We hope you enjoyed

946
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 3: this outwards. The second thing Donald Trump is big mad

947
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: about is something called birth tourism. What that he calls

948
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: birth tourism?

949
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: Right, it's okay, I think, I think I see where

950
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: this is going.

951
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's when you take a holiday to the the womb,

952
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 3: you go into like a pod and it's very I thought.

953
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: It's where you take a holiday sumwhmer to pop out

954
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: of kin and they get automatic citizenship.

955
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: That's what it actually is. Yeah, which is a great plan. Yeah. Yeah,

956
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 3: you go on holiday to like an all inclusive resort

957
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: and then you don't have to pay for your birth

958
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: expenses because they're included when you go to your inclusive resort.

959
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: It's a great deal for everyone.

960
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't think of that.

961
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, many few people have. But now now the words

962
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 3: out and it might close that loophole. What I think

963
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 3: interesting about his quote unquote birth tourism claims. It's not

964
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 3: like obviously this again has been a right wing talking

965
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: point for a long time. Right, it's that in this

966
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: particular section of the Agenda forty seven website. He includes

967
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 3: links to provide evidence for some of his claims, which

968
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: is a bold move for Donald Trump, a man who

969
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: excus evidence. But what he links to is the Center

970
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 3: for Immigration Studies, right, the CIS. The CIS is an

971
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: extremely right wing thing tank. It's founded by someone called

972
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: John Tantun and it's lifted by the SBLC as a

973
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: hate group. The reason it's listed by the SBLC as

974
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: a hate group is because it pretty consistently publishes the

975
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: work of someone called Jason rich Wine, who is an

976
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: unreconstructed race science guy, right, like a modern day phrenologist,

977
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: if you will. This is a man who is so

978
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: racist that he was forced to resign from the Heritage Foundation.

979
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: Oh oh wow.

980
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know what was possible. Actually it

981
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: was quite.

982
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know they had like a bar for that. Huh.

983
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 3: No, two races for the Heritage Foundation.

984
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 2: Is is quite racist gravestone.

985
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they probably will after CIS when there's a bit

986
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 3: of a blow up about this is during the first

987
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: round presidency and CIS claim they it wouldn't be unusual

988
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: to occasionally include a racist or an anti semite, given

989
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: the volume of content they put out. So this led

990
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 3: to the Southern Poverty Law Center conducting an analysis of

991
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: their weekly newsletter. I'm going to read you a summary

992
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: of that analysis now. Southern Poverty Law Center and the

993
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: Center for New Community examined approximately four hundred and fifty

994
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: of CIS's weekly emails dating back almost ten years and

995
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: found that CIS circulated over one thousand, seven hundred articles

996
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 3: from vdare dot com. Garrison's face just looks like they've

997
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: stepped in something horrible.

998
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have this podcast recording.

999
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right, an average of three VEDA articles

1000
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: every week. Huh yeah, So that that's where Donald Trump

1001
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: is getting the bulk of his statistics and information, or

1002
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: at least Donald Trump isn't writing this stuff, right, I

1003
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: don't think he has the attention span. But whoever is

1004
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: writing his immigration policy, it is sourcing from vdare.

1005
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 2: Do we want to explain what the yeah is?

1006
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: Go off, Garrison. Let us know.

1007
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: So VEDE is like this white nationalist like anti immigration,

1008
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: not like a lobbying group, but like I kind of.

1009
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: They produce a whole bunch of rhetoric and talking points

1010
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: about all of the big risks of immigration. It gets

1011
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: sent stuff to like Fox News. Trump's used this stuff before.

1012
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: It's it's not it's not great. They receive like dark

1013
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 2: money from conservative like funding groups like Donors Trust. It's

1014
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: it's it's way to it's finding a whole bunch of

1015
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: silly ways to try to justify their types of racism.

1016
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 2: And they are they are still a problem. They were

1017
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: founded nearly twenty five years ago and they're still They're

1018
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: still going.

1019
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they they've compared the anti

1020
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: white rhetoric to the Rwandan genocide before, and just they

1021
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: What I think is important to hear about v DAY

1022
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 3: is that they exist to take straight up hate rhetoric

1023
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 3: and insert it to mainstream politics.

1024
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: And yes, they take stuff from like actual, like like

1025
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: very like recognized like white nationalist groups and turn it

1026
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: into rhetoric that is acceptable on Fox News.

1027
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 4: That is their entire goal.

1028
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and cis one might argue, exists to take that

1029
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 3: VDA stuff and dress it up as research article, statistics

1030
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 3: information that might inform policy. There's a bunch of stuff

1031
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: in his sort of abolished birth right sitsonship that I

1032
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: don't think we need to get into. He talks a

1033
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 3: lot about birth Hotel. He links to a National Affairs

1034
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 3: op ed from Peter Shuck and Rogers Smith. These are

1035
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: the people who have really been like the originators of

1036
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: the abolished birthright citizenship movement. They wrote a book about it,

1037
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: I think in nineteen eighty five. It's also worth noting

1038
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: just so, like Trump repeatedly claims in his little videos

1039
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 3: that children can then make their parents citizens as soon

1040
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: as they become citizens. Like so, if someone was undocumented,

1041
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: right and their child became a citizen in the child,

1042
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 3: you know, five year old child consponsored and for citizenship,

1043
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: and a way they are now the whole family is

1044
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: is American citizens right. And then the logic of this

1045
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: website goes that like Biden imports these people, they all

1046
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: become citizens, they all vote for the Democrats, right, And

1047
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: this is sort of the great replacement theory with a

1048
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: couple more steps. It's worth noting the children have to

1049
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: be twenty one to sponsor a parent, and if that

1050
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: parent has entered the country in an undog commented way,

1051
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: then the parent has to leave for a decade and

1052
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 3: then come back to apply. It's not possible to simply

1053
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: citizenize your parents as soon as you become a citizen

1054
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: by birth right citizenship. It would be an extremely long

1055
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: game to try and have a kid in order to

1056
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 3: gain your own citizenship. I've met thousands of migrants who

1057
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: have entered between ports of entry, right, I've never met

1058
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: anyone who have articulated this this sort of goal, this

1059
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: this route to citizenship. He then goes on he has

1060
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: this like like it's literally a bullet pointed list of

1061
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: border policies.

1062
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: Right.

1063
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: These include quote unquote extreme vetting at a quote national

1064
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 3: vetting center. That's a little that's a little worrying that

1065
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 3: the national vetting center.

1066
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: Who's going to be doing this vetting? What are they

1067
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: vetting for? Who are they vetting?

1068
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the migrants. Who's going to be doing the

1069
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: vetting probably the people who forced women to have abortions

1070
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: in their custody and lost thousands of children and have

1071
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: been able to relocate their families. So that'll be great.

1072
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: It's not also clear what they're vetting for. He doesn't

1073
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 3: say that specifically. He does say that he wants to

1074
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: quote unleash interior immigration enforcement, which anyone who's lived in

1075
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: the United States in the last decade may have noticed.

1076
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 3: So we in fact have interior immigration.

1077
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that has been unleashed.

1078
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's kind of me as whole Twitter thing.

1079
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I guess this is part of

1080
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: his massive deportation thing, right, his goal to deport undocumented people.

1081
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: He does not at any point differentiate between undocumented people

1082
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 3: in the asylum secrets. He seems to see them as

1083
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: one of the same.

1084
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all good, dangerous illegals or whatever.

1085
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah.

1086
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: And anyone crossing the border for any reason other than

1087
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 3: with a visa in hand to him, falls into this,

1088
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: like should be deported.

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Speaker 2: If you are a certain skin tone? Yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: VI's a plus. The skin tone is what makes it okay?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, I think it's probably fair. And what

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Speaker 3: else has he got on his lord list here? Let's see,

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01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: there's ending federal grants to sanctuary cities. I'm not quite

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01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: sure how he thinks that would work or what exactly

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01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: he means by federal grants, like we're just going to

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Speaker 3: stop having highways in California. That, yeah, yeah, let's return.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready. I'll be riding my bike everywhere like a king.

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Speaker 3: He also talks about and he calls he ending quote

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Speaker 3: catch and release at the border. It's not clear what

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Speaker 3: he means by this.

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01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: I've certainly heard this term a lot the past year.

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Speaker 2: Catch and release.

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01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like catching release was used to refer

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Speaker 3: sometimes to Title forty two, a policy that Trump put

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01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 3: in place whereby migrants would be caught and immediately turned

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01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 3: back into Mexico and released there, and they generally try

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Speaker 3: and cross again. And we've covered it's an entire series

1108
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: I made on Title forty two. Right. Another of his uh,

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01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 3: his weird little bugbears is ending the visa lottery. Are

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Speaker 3: you familiar with the visa lottery? Garrison? Roughly, but not

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01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 3: super Okay, So the visa lottery is more properly called

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Speaker 3: something called the Diversity Visa Program. It allows for up

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Speaker 3: to fifty five thousand immigrant visas a year for individuals

1114
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Speaker 3: from countries that are underrepresented in the US immigration system.

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Speaker 3: So it's literally there to increase diversity, right, I guess

1116
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 3: it's d I. It's d I. He must have recorded

1117
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: this before di I was a big deal because he

1118
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 3: doesn't have that shame.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much equity there is going to

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Speaker 2: be in the lottery program.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you're about to find out Garrison Okay. Trump

1122
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: has repeatedly suggested that he believes that this diversity visa

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01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 3: program consists of non US countries raffling off green cards

1124
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 3: like you pay and then they draw your number. That

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Speaker 3: that's not how it works. It's the United States who

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01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 3: decides gets them. It's a computer program that selects about

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01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 3: fifty thousand applicants from about fifteen million. I have met

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01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: probably hundreds of people who have applied for diversity visas.

1129
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 3: I meet them all the time every time I'm traveling

1130
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: for work. Myanmar, Thailand, Iraq, Kurdistan, and Syria, like You'll

1131
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 3: meet people from all these places who have tried to

1132
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: apply for the system. Most of them end up not

1133
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: getting it because the odds are very slim. Sure, when

1134
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: they do get it, they then have to go through

1135
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 3: a series of vetting processes, and then they have to

1136
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Speaker 3: make an appointment at a consulate. One of the last

1137
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 3: parts of the process making appoints at a consulate to

1138
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: get an interview. Right, what the Trump administration did last

1139
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 3: time was stop people from getting appointments at consulates, citing

1140
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 3: COVID right that they couldn't with the COVID restriction to

1141
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: get an appointment. That meant that de facto because you

1142
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 3: only have seven months once you get awarded the visa

1143
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: to fulfill the process us and get the paper visa

1144
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 3: and begin your travel. Those people weren't able to get it,

1145
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 3: and they had to go back to the start right,

1146
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 3: which is crushing, Like, I know how much of their

1147
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: money and hope people allocate to these programs and to

1148
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 3: be told like, yeah, you got it, it's incredibly rare,

1149
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 3: and then to be like, oh, actually you can't make

1150
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: the appointment. Screw you. It's crushing. Now the Biden administration,

1151
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: in all fairness, has restored their right to book an interview,

1152
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: but it's moved to the bottom of the priority list.

1153
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: So in practice it's still happening that people can be

1154
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: they can quote unquote win the green card lottery and

1155
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 3: still not get a green card. It's a complete mess,

1156
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: and transporposal lists to entirely do away with it, this

1157
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: would require legislation that doesn't matter. He also has a

1158
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 3: little there's like a one sentence where he claims that

1159
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 3: Biden's border policies are killing migrants, and weirdly, he links

1160
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: to an NPR article about it. He's not wrong, like

1161
01:03:55,720 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: he is absolutely not wrong. Like but but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1162
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 3: The butt is that Donald Trump would kill a lot

1163
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 3: more great. I mean yeah, I mean is are those also?

1164
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: Are those like referring specifically to Biden stuff or like

1165
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: the stuff that like like that like Governor Abbott's doing,

1166
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: like what.

1167
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 3: It's the increase in border crossings and bordered deaths from

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty to present. Much of that is due to

1169
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: Trump's Title forty two policy that Biden wholeheartedly supported defended

1170
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: in court. Right, because when people were caught and then

1171
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 3: released back across the border, they often they were offered

1172
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 3: unlimited crossings by the people who were like helping them cross,

1173
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 3: or they the facto, had unlimited chances to cross because

1174
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 3: they're just being dropped back in Mexico, right, Yeah, They're

1175
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: often they're dropped without any resources in places where they

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01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 3: have no community. So they try and cross again, and

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01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 3: they end up going to more and more remote places

1178
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: because they don't want to get caught, right, or so

1179
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 3: they end up crossing in the places where there are

1180
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 3: gaps in the wall. Those tend to be very and

1181
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 3: those tend to be the places where people die. So

1182
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 3: you can map the deaths and you can you can

1183
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: see this in real time happen.

1184
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: And Trump's pretending to find this to be a problem.

1185
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,959
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Trump is very sad about this. He's big sad.

1186
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,959
Speaker 3: So he's gonna he's gonna make a kind of gender

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01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 3: immigration system. It's garson.

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Speaker 2: Do you know.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what else? It is kinder and gentler

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01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 3: than the immigration system. Well, I guess ads. I mean,

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if ads might kill less people, but

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01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: it's really hard to say. Yeah, it's I think they

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01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: probably would. I think we can we can confidently say

1194
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 3: now that cigarette ads are are What if it's a

1195
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: banana advert, because then you can get into the whole

1196
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 3: sort of you know, like.

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Speaker 2: All right, well here, let's play these ads.

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Speaker 3: We're back. Enjoy your fruit.

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Speaker 2: I love call fruit.

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01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then nothing, Grow your own fruit. That's the

1201
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 3: message of this podcast. And then if we didn't have

1202
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 3: if we did grow our own fruit, we wouldn't have

1203
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 3: destabilized many of the countries that these migrants are coming from.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful Georgia, peaches.

1205
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we destabilized Georgia. A boy can dream. So

1206
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 3: there's a couple of other bugbears, little sort of things

1207
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Speaker 3: that Trump has. One of them is benefits for migrants. Now,

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01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 3: this is something that's been hopping around the right wing

1209
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 3: for a while. It's really been more sort of one

1210
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 3: of their talking points in the last few months. I

1211
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 3: think like since right wings stream has certainly started coming

1212
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: to places where I volunteered on the border, I've heard

1213
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: them talking about it, and I tried not to hear

1214
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: them talking, So they might have been talking about it

1215
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 3: for and I was just not paying attention. Just be

1216
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: super clear, undocumented people are not eligible for most benefits.

1217
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 3: Even people with legal status have a range of hurdles.

1218
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Speaker 3: Even if you have even if you have a green card,

1219
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of you can't yes. Yeah, And there

1220
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 3: are also public charge rules, which in some cases some

1221
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: forms of assistants might be a hurdle if you are

1222
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 3: looking to change your immigration status, So even if you

1223
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: had accepted them, that that might stop you moving along

1224
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 3: the immigration pathway. That's only for things like SSI and TANF.

1225
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Speaker 3: But I don't think we need to go into the

1226
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,959
Speaker 3: nitty gritty of it. He claims that people are coming

1227
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 3: here to live off benefits he calls quote welfare and

1228
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 3: a gigantic magnet drawing people from all over the world.

1229
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Speaker 3: They want to come to the United States. They want

1230
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Speaker 3: to feast off the sweat and savings of the American taxpayer.

1231
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 3: Feasting off sweat is not a beautiful image, but well no,

1232
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Speaker 3: it's He continues to claim that these migrants also take

1233
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 3: American jobs right so at once claiming unemployment benefits and

1234
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 3: taking American jobs. And again, like, I don't think Donald

1235
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 3: Trump stuff has to line up for it to be dangerous.

1236
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 3: Just to like inject a moment of factual analysis. Again,

1237
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: you have to wait at least five months after applying

1238
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 3: for work permit. When you arrivee her as a refugee

1239
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 3: to get a work permit. You may not apply straight away.

1240
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: Many people wait for a year or more without the

1241
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: right to work. Undocumented workers working under the table, a

1242
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: hugely underpaid, very frequently abused, and the reason again where

1243
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 3: your fruit is cheap. He says in his Day one

1244
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 3: plan that he's going to stop migrant workers taken American

1245
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,440
Speaker 3: jobs by having like American hiring provisions for all federal agencies.

1246
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 3: Federal agencies are not hiring undocumented people.

1247
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's simply not happening.

1248
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 3: That is just that is like, believe me, I am

1249
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 3: a person who has been a migrant to this country.

1250
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 3: The amount of bullshit you have to go to to

1251
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 3: even do a government job like teaching is a large

1252
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 3: amount of bullshit. And they absolutely are not hiring undocumented people.

1253
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 3: I bring this garrison to the final pillar of the

1254
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 3: Trump immigration policy and fit one garrison. I want you

1255
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 3: to take a moment to listen to this clip of

1256
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 3: Donald Trump explaining the well researched information that he uses

1257
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 3: to develop his immigration policy.

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01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 6: I was thrilled to host a screening at Bedminster of

1259
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 6: the important new film Sound of Freedom, about the power

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 6: of faith in overcoming evil, and in particular the evil

1261
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 6: of child trafficking, big problem. We had it down to

1262
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 6: the lowest number in many years just four years ago,

1263
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 6: and now it's gone through the roof, even though the

1264
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 6: fake news media has tried to ignore it. Sound of

1265
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 6: Freedom has been a national sensation and a colossal success

1266
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 6: at the box office.

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Speaker 4: Really big numbers.

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01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 6: Everyone should see it. This is a very important film

1269
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 6: and very important movie, and it's a very important documentary

1270
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,480
Speaker 6: all wrapped up in one.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's crazy, yeah film. Yeah, it's like you're

1272
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 5: sliding another I there in between L and M.

1273
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 3: I've heard spoken around the world, and I've never heard

1274
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 3: that pronounced that way.

1275
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:20,839
Speaker 2: Curious choice.

1276
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a fascinating man.

1277
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, besides the point like most of those

1278
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: Had A Freedom tickets were but by right wing billionaires

1279
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 2: and were completely empty seats.

1280
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 3: He goes on to detail the exact number of dollars

1281
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 3: it took in the opening week to talk about how

1282
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 3: it's such a success. Yes, decent, A decent amount of

1283
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 3: his entire child drafting policy. Is him describing the film

1284
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: The Freedom. It's incredible, like that was that was a

1285
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 3: gift that I did not. This is if you read

1286
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 3: the transcript, you miss out on some of these absolute

1287
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 3: easter eggs Trump leaves for us.

1288
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: I think I think I saw a clip of him

1289
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 2: at a rally recently where he was talking about Center

1290
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 2: Freedom and he also said it like that, No, it

1291
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: was I know what it was. It was talking about

1292
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: David Lynch. When there was that misquote about about Lynch

1293
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: saying like like Trump seems like like like an energetic

1294
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: guy or something, and he's like Philim Pillim director David

1295
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 2: Lynch endorsed me for president. It's like, okay, that's not whatever.

1296
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, then he's uh yeah.

1297
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,799
Speaker 2: So he's he's been saying this way for like almost

1298
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 2: ten years at least, because that's insane.

1299
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 3: Actually yeah, like.

1300
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Speaker 2: Because because that yeah, because that clip was from like

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01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: the twenty fifteen campaign rallies.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's so it's not Yeah, wow, the power of

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 3: simility an incredible thing.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 3: If any anyone else, anyone we could do like the

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01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 3: NPR thing, if you if they said film where you

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01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 3: come from?

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone else, says Phil, I really don't

1309
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, there's not a Yeah, he just comes

1311
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 3: up with this stuff from a blank slate. Well that's cool, Yeah,

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01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 3: anyone else is cool.

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01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: It's uh, this is all of this video is called

1314
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: like Trump calls for a death penalty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're.

1316
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 2: Laughing and we're laughing about pronunciation.

1317
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, unfortunately, Garrison, it's time to stop laughing because yes,

1318
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, I'm going to outline a death penalty thing. Quote.

1319
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: I will urge Congress to ensure that anyone caught trafficking

1320
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 3: children across our border receives the death penalty immediately. And

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01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 3: that includes also for women, because women, as you know,

1322
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 3: are number one in trafficking children are actually number two.

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01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: That's the sentence which you could pick apart for a

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01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: long time. What does he mean by trafficking That is

1325
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 3: extremely unclear. He seems to mean the arrival of people

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Speaker 3: in the United States.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like, that's kind of what it sounds like. Yeah, Like,

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01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: it sounds like it just means crossing the border.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, he well because he he also says, quote,

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Speaker 3: I will use Title forty two to end the child

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01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 3: trafficking crisis by returning all traffic children to their families

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01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 3: in their home countries and without delay. I made an

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 3: entire fucking series on Title forty two. I recorded it

1334
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: in a week, and then I wrote it in a week,

1335
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 3: and then we edited it. And it has destroyed me

1336
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 3: and I have never recovered. Title forty two does absolutely

1337
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 3: nothing about child trafficking. Title forty two returns all migrants

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01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 3: or anyone crossing the border between ports of entry to Mexico,

1339
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 3: which suggests that he sees all these people as trafficked, right.

1340
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1341
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 3: It also absolutely does not reunite children with their families.

1342
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 3: This is the administration that separated families at the border

1343
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 3: and has in some cases been unable to find the

1344
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: parents of the children. It's separated. Friends of mine have

1345
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 3: worked for a very long time, very hard, absolutely not

1346
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 3: for the Trump administration, trying to find those people's families.

1347
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 3: But it's really interesting that he is talking about Title

1348
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 3: forty two again. Title forty two, if you're not familiar,

1349
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 3: as a public health law, right, it's to stop the

1350
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: introduction of infectious disease into United States. It's a very

1351
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: old law that was initially designed around tuberculosis. So, and

1352
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 3: we know that the Trump administration planned to use Title

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01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 3: forty two before coronavirus was a Coronavirus is already a

1354
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 3: thing before COVID nineteen with the thing right, So he's

1355
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 3: just being completely open about his idea to manipulate public

1356
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 3: health law in a way that allows him to do

1357
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 3: things immigration law would not allow him to do.

1358
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 5: Right.

1359
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 3: He also finishes up, I guess by making his claim

1360
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 3: once again he goes back to the well that is

1361
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 3: the fucking border war. Right. I'm just going to quote here.

1362
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: We created the most secure border in US history, dealing

1363
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 3: a major blow to the cartels in traffickers. We built

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01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: hundreds of miles of war, we renovated hundreds of miles

1365
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 3: of war, we built hundreds of miles of war. We

1366
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 3: never had anything like it. And then I got Mexico

1367
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 3: free of charge to give us twenty eight thousand soldiers

1368
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: to protect us from people coming into our country illegally.

1369
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 3: It's not going to surprise anyone that this is bullshit, right.

1370
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 3: Trump first made this hundreds of miles of war claim

1371
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 3: in a debate with Biden. I filed a foyer for

1372
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 3: a new war building that night. The best estimate I

1373
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 3: can come up with, based on the documents I got

1374
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 3: from Foyer and from other people's foyers, is that they

1375
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 3: built about eighty five miles of new war. They did

1376
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 3: replace several hundred miles of war, and in some cases

1377
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 3: that went from a pretty insignificant barrier to a pretty

1378
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 3: large one. The twenty eight thousand soldier thing this will

1379
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: shock you was also not true. There was an agreement

1380
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 3: at twenty nineteen with Mexico that didn't list a specific

1381
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: number of troops, but it did say that most of

1382
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: them will be in the southern half of the country

1383
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 3: and Mexico's border with Guatemala. He then goes on just

1384
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 3: a complete tangent where he says I will rage war

1385
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 3: on the cartels, just as I destroyed the ISIS Caliphate

1386
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 3: one hundred percent gone, one hundred percent destroyed.

1387
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's why that in Russia.

1388
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, it's all gone. Yeah.

1389
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 3: ISIS car bombed the street that I stayed on a

1390
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 3: couple of weeks after I left in October.

1391
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 2: Like, this is why the ISIS press people are like

1392
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 2: begging people to like to believe that ISIS is like

1393
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 2: still a thing. They're like, no, please, We're still real,

1394
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: We're still around, please, I'm a real boy. Yeah exactly, Yeah.

1395
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the Pinocchio Isis. That'll be a highly entertaining film. Look,

1396
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 3: I want to finish up by saying here that, like,

1397
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 3: as we saw in Donald Trump's first term, his malice

1398
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 3: is really only matched by his incompetence, and his incompetence

1399
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: at the border is much less important. I guess He's

1400
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 3: been able to be more competent at the border than

1401
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 3: he has been anywhere else in enacting his policies. He

1402
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: managed to do plenty of things in his first term

1403
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 3: that are unconstitutional, because the system only really works when

1404
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 3: the people playing the game agree that the rules of

1405
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 3: the game are more important than the outcome, and that's

1406
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 3: not the case with Donald Trump, Right. We know that

1407
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 3: the fact that he dedicated so much of his agenda

1408
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 3: forty seven pages to migration tells us that peddling great

1409
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 3: replacement theories is going to be a major part of

1410
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 3: his campaign and a major part of his second term

1411
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 3: if he gets one. The sources that he links to

1412
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 3: here tell us that he's as addicted to right wing

1413
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 3: rage bait as he ever was, and that he's still

1414
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 3: surrounded by cranks and crackpots with fringe on the flag

1415
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 3: level conspiracy theories. None of this stuff, none of my

1416
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 3: suggestions that what he's saying is false or illegal or

1417
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 3: impossible under the constitution mean that it's not dangerous.

1418
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 4: Right.

1419
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 3: I would have told you in twenty sixteen that it

1420
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 3: was illegal to bounce people back to Mexico without hearing

1421
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 3: their asylum claims, because it is. But we had it

1422
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: under a democratic president for three years. We had it

1423
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 3: under Trump for a year. Right, it still happened. He

1424
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 3: succeeded in moving the border and migration debate massively to

1425
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 3: the right, and we have Biden advocating for things that

1426
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 3: would not have flown like that. Clinton would have been

1427
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 3: a ghast at right, and just by Trump making this

1428
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 3: an issue, even if he doesn't get elected in November,

1429
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 3: Biden's going to try and fight him on this by

1430
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 3: claiming that he too is tough on the border, he

1431
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 3: too is tough on these fictional things like the taking

1432
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 3: of American jobs or migrants claiming public benefits or birthright

1433
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 3: citizenship right that Biden has completely failed to plow his

1434
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 3: own path on this, and he said he's entirely reactive

1435
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 3: to Trump. So I think I guess the big take

1436
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 3: home here is that whatever happens in November, things that

1437
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 3: the border are going to be terrible, just like they're

1438
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 3: terrible now.

1439
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 2: And and you can't just rely on politicians to do

1440
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 2: things at the border, like there's actually like you can't

1441
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: just push it away, be like, oh, now that so

1442
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 2: and so is in charge, now I don't have to

1443
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: think about It'd be like, well.

1444
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 3: That's the whole fucking problem, right. The reason that we

1445
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 3: are so broke, the reason that I personally am so

1446
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 3: broken and my truck is falling apart, is that that

1447
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 3: is what people are doing. At least with Trump. We

1448
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 3: got money in twenty eighteen when he held the MI

1449
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 3: caravan at the border in Tijuana. My friends and I

1450
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 3: were there doing mutual aid, and we did just what

1451
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 3: we're doing now in a cumba right. We fed people,

1452
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 3: we bought them blankets, we took care of them, and

1453
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 3: we stole them from dying. But at least libs sent

1454
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 3: us money, like we had tons of money. I remember

1455
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 3: spending one thousand dollars on soft toys in the Costco

1456
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 3: in Tijuana. That doesn't happen anymore because people think that

1457
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 3: they voted for the kind, gentle, nice guy. And I guess, like,

1458
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 3: I want people to look at this with the understanding

1459
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 3: that whatever happens at the ballot box, like you need

1460
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 3: to help with a board it because neither of these

1461
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 3: politicians are going to That's my speech. Thank you for

1462
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 3: listening to our podcast. Anything else, Garrison.

1463
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 2: No, No, But we will be back tomorrow with more exciting,

1464
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: exciting news about Yeah, what are we looking about sell

1465
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 2: an agenda either, Actually I don't know because we have

1466
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: not planned it out that far ahead. Throughout the rest

1467
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: of the week, we'll be talking about Trump's plans for

1468
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:05,839
Speaker 2: handling the gender question, trump declaring war on cartels, and

1469
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 2: his plans to fix the pharmaceutical industry. So all stuff.

1470
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 3: I can't wait.

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Speaker 7: Welcome zacodapp gear podcast where the future president wants us

1472
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 7: to die and the current president doesn't give a shit.

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01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,799
Speaker 4: I'm your host Miah Wong with me as Garrison.

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01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 8: Hi.

1475
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 7: Okay, so we're covering another aspect of Trump's agenda forty seven.

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01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 7: All right, we're looking at President Trump's plan to protect

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01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 7: children from left wing gender insanity. Now, despite that title,

1478
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 7: this is the least trumpy of all of these. He

1479
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 7: is just phoning this one the fucking It's the most

1480
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 7: hymn reading off a teleprompter I've ever seen in any

1481
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 7: speech he's ever given.

1482
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: Because historically he's never cared about this kind of stuff.

1483
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: He's just having to do it now to appease the

1484
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 2: people he needs to get votes from. But like, if

1485
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 2: you look at Trump's stances on transgender people historically, however,

1486
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: not good. They're not like a genocidyl. And you can

1487
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: really tell his heart, isn't it. It's in some of

1488
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 2: these he I.

1489
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 7: Mean, legitimately, he sounds like so someone doing an ad

1490
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 7: read for a Raige Shadow Legend.

1491
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,799
Speaker 4: Sponsorship, Like it's it's he's so bored.

1492
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 7: There's like one It's funny because you can tell this

1493
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 7: is something I started happening in the middle of the administration.

1494
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 7: Was you could tell when his speech writers were just

1495
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 7: writing in a Trump word for him to say so

1496
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 7: it would look less like he was And they're doing

1497
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,839
Speaker 7: it in this one. There's only like one genuinely trumpy

1498
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 7: thing in this Unfortunately, it all fucking sucks ass, It's

1499
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 7: quite bleak. So let's let's get into what exactly is

1500
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 7: in this. I would love to hear Trump's plan for

1501
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 7: the true genders. Yeah, so first he wants to end

1502
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 7: Biden's executive order on gender affirming care. Now you might

1503
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 7: be asking, wait, meal.

1504
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 4: What the fu?

1505
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 8: Wait what executive what executive order? I looked this up too,

1506
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 8: because I was like, wait, what is he talking about?

1507
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 8: So apparently, back in twenty twenty two, Biden issued a

1508
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 8: series of executive orders that were supposed to protect the

1509
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 8: rights of trans kids to get gender affirming care.

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01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: So that didn't happen.

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01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 7: No, no, no, now these weren't. Yeah, these were mostly

1512
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 7: stunningly ineffective. Well let's let's I'm going to quote from

1513
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 7: I finally found the actual executive which is disturbingly hard

1514
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 7: to find. The actual text of because everyone just wanted

1515
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 7: you to read the press release, because what's actually in

1516
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 7: it is, okay, the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall,

1517
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 7: as appropriate and consistent with applicable law, used the Department

1518
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 7: of Health and Human Services authority to project LGBTQI plus

1519
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 7: individuals access to medically necessary care from harmful state and

1520
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 7: local laws and practices. And I'll promote the adoption of

1521
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 7: promising policies and practices to support health equity, including in

1522
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 7: the area of mental health for LGBTQI youth and adults.

1523
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 7: Within two hundred days of this order, the Secretary of

1524
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 7: HHS SE develop and release sample policies for states to

1525
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:19,480
Speaker 7: safeguard and expand access to health care for LGBTQI individuals

1526
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 7: and their families, including mental health care services. Now, let's

1527
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 7: pull out for one second to try to figure out

1528
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 7: what does that actually do. So what is being done there.

1529
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 7: The thing that is being commanded is that the Department

1530
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 7: of Health and Human Services make sample guidelines for state.

1531
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 7: And then there's another part where they were talking about

1532
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 7: how they were going to form a committee to study

1533
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 7: trans mental health care. Uh huh, so none of this

1534
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 7: did shit right, But this is the first thing that

1535
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 7: Trump's like, we're going to overturn this. I guess the

1536
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 7: actual substantive shift here is and we'll get to this

1537
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 7: in a bit. This didn't do anything. This was just

1538
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 7: a pr op he does. And this is funny because

1539
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 7: he does a series of these things every single trans

1540
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 7: day of visibility, and then nothing ever happens because ye

1541
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 7: as joke.

1542
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: We've had like so many states since twenty twenty two

1543
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: completely restrict healthcare for trans people under the age of eighteen,

1544
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: and I've not heard of a single instance where the

1545
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: federal government has intervened to to help to help a

1546
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: kid get puberty blockers in in a state like where

1547
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: they passed these sorts of bills.

1548
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 7: I will say this, The Justice Department has done lawsuits, sure, sure,

1549
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 7: and I think they won like one of them. So

1550
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 7: that's not literally nothing, it's just mostly nothing like And

1551
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 7: then this is the thing. It's coming through the judiciary,

1552
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 7: not through the federal bureaucracy. And that's a point of

1553
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 7: contrast that I want to get to because Trump, you know,

1554
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 7: and this is something that's that's always been true about

1555
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 7: sort of the use of executive power by democratic versus

1556
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 7: Republican presidents, right, sure, you know there are Like the

1557
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 7: Democrats sometimes do use like massive executive power overreach, things like,

1558
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 7: for example, Obama's claimed to have the legal authority to

1559
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 7: kill any man, woman, or child moment they self off

1560
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 7: the US or regardless of citizenship status, the thing that

1561
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,839
Speaker 7: he used to kill a sixteen year old American citizen

1562
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 7: in Yemen, So that he does that sometimes, right, But

1563
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 7: they don't do anything useful with it. And now let's

1564
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 7: get to what Trump is going to do with this quote.

1565
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 7: Sign a new executive order instructing every federal agency to

1566
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 7: cease all programs to promote the concept of sex and

1567
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,879
Speaker 7: gender and transition at any age. Ask Congress to permanently

1568
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 7: stop federal taxpayer dollars from being used to promote or

1569
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 7: pay for these procedures. Okay, so that's bad. What exactly

1570
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 7: this does is kind of murky. We're going to talk

1571
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 7: about planned parenthood in a second, because there's another one

1572
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 7: of these proposals that's a lot worse for plant parenthood, and.

1573
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 2: I guess that'd be going after some level of like

1574
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 2: government insurance. If you're trying to get medical care paid

1575
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: for if you have government insurance, I guess that'd be

1576
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 2: what that's trying to target.

1577
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's like two things.

1578
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 7: One and I think this is the main target is well,

1579
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 7: I don't know, it's sort of unclear, but the two

1580
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 7: main targets I think are any kind of federal education

1581
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 7: program that talks about queer people. Sure, and then the

1582
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 7: second one. Yeah, it's like if you're in the military,

1583
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 7: you won't be able to transition anymore because or if

1584
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 7: and this is actually a pretty big deal because there

1585
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 7: are a lot of federal employees. The federal employees health

1586
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 7: insurance would no longer cover any gender for macare. And

1587
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 7: this is for everyone, right because it's.

1588
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 2: Not Unfortunately a lot of transgender employees at the dot yep.

1589
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 4: So that's very bad.

1590
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 2: Why those drones?

1591
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 7: Oh god, oh you meant oh the you had DoD, Yes,

1592
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 7: the department, But no, you said do two probably a

1593
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 7: transportation I was like, well, yeah, that too.

1594
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of well.

1595
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:03,879
Speaker 2: Yes, because yes, I meant, I meant the DoD.

1596
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, you know, it's bad. There's an open question

1597
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 7: here about how exactly this works. So one question that

1598
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 7: I'm genuinely not sure about. There's a possibility this works

1599
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 7: like abortion funding where I So federal money can't go

1600
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 7: to promoting abortions. I think there's some very weird stuff

1601
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 7: with U said money overseas, So sometimes happens, but I

1602
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 7: don't know someone I'm not I'm not a USCID expert.

1603
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 7: But you know, so for example, you so if you

1604
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 7: are a clinic that does abortions, right, you can take

1605
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 7: federal money. You just can't use the federal money for

1606
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 7: the abortions. So it's possible that you know, for example,

1607
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 7: so one of the one of the the influm consent

1608
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 7: clinics in Chicago takes federal money for HIV treatment. Under

1609
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 7: this wording, it seems like they could still get federal

1610
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 7: funding for that, but they couldn't take any money for

1611
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 7: gender firming care. But also so Congress could just pass

1612
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 7: a bill that stops I'm pretty sure it could pass

1613
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 7: a bill that stops all funding for anyone who does this.

1614
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 7: So you know, this is something that's kind of interesting

1615
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 7: about these is that this stuff is all very very bad.

1616
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 4: It's also not quite.

1617
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 7: The maximalist genocidal policy yet, I think in large part

1618
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 7: because they haven't taken power and because the groups who

1619
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 7: are like pushing this stuff This is actually kind of

1620
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 7: an older this. This is from February twenty twenty three,

1621
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 7: So okay, it's actually a lot older than a lot

1622
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 7: of the other stuff here. And even even back like

1623
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty three, the beginning of the year, stuff

1624
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 7: was less radical than.

1625
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 4: It is now.

1626
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was before the big we must eliminate transgenderism.

1627
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah thing that started with the Daily Wire, and then

1628
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 2: Trump mirrored some of that rhetoric in his like a

1629
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: seapack talk from that spring. Yeah, it was kind of

1630
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: a ramp up like on some of like the quote

1631
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 2: unquote transgender ism rhetoric really was getting more popular on

1632
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: that time. The kind of groomer rhetoric from the year previous,

1633
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two is starting to kind of fade away,

1634
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: and they were finding a new thing to replace it.

1635
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1636
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,679
Speaker 7: So there's a good, just decent chance that this stuff

1637
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 7: is all actually much worse when it gets implanted. That's

1638
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 7: the way it's written right now, as best as I

1639
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 7: can tell. So the third one, and this one is

1640
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 7: a fiasco. Any hospital or healthcare provider who either gives

1641
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 7: up puberty blockers or does genderfirming surgery for miners, or

1642
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 7: gives hormones to miners can't accept Medicare or Medicaid, they

1643
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 7: get knocked off of the approved list. Okay, so that

1644
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 7: is a huge deal because that immediately knocks out planned parenthood.

1645
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 4: Who you plan pair?

1646
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 7: Who gets this like Sophie's choice thing of either you

1647
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 7: don't provide puberty blockers like you, you don't provide gender

1648
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 7: firming care of either like either sort of hormones or

1649
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 7: puberty blockers to kids, or you lose every single person

1650
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 7: who uses Medicare Medicaid. And that's a lot of people.

1651
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 7: That's like I've seen numbers that suggest it's like forty

1652
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:11,919
Speaker 7: percent of people who use Planned parenthood use particularly Medicare,

1653
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 7: And this is a complete fiasco.

1654
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 2: I also wonder how this would impact like cis, children

1655
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 2: who need to be put on puberty blockers, because people

1656
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 2: forget that, like puberty blockers have been a thing for

1657
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 2: like decades and decades that are like well proven to

1658
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 2: be safe and effective for delaying puberty. It does not

1659
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 2: stop puberty from happening altogether. It does not cast straight

1660
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 2: you permanently or in any of these kind of wild claims.

1661
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1662
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 7: Well, and the stuff that's weird here too is like

1663
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 7: it's the language they're using is really inflammatory shit, So

1664
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 7: it's actually deeply unclear what the fuck they're talking about.

1665
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 2: So, I mean, and I've read a lot of these

1666
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: sorts of bills, even like the Arkansas bill targeting IVF.

1667
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 2: When these politicians are questioned about some of the language

1668
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: that would, ultimately, if written and acted upon as written,

1669
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 2: would like block a whole bunch of regular medical procedures

1670
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 2: from happening, they're often confused about why they're being asked

1671
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 2: about this because they're like, no, obviously things will continue

1672
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 2: on as normal, and if we have to amend the

1673
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 2: bill to like change this one little thing, then we'll

1674
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 2: do that. They don't actually think about all the little

1675
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: tiny ways that this will also just like interferes with

1676
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 2: like regular medical science. Yeah, and they just need digital

1677
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 2: care because they know it's because they're never in a

1678
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 2: prosecute for stuff like that. It just isn't it. They're

1679
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 2: genuinely not thinking about those other use cases at all.

1680
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, And like I'm going to read the first sentence

1681
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 7: the first one of these, like the text of it

1682
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 7: revoke Joe Biden's cruel policies on so called gender affirming

1683
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 7: care and quotes a process that includes giving kids puberty blockers,

1684
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,679
Speaker 7: mutating their physical appearance, and ultimately performing surgery on minor children.

1685
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 7: So that's like not real, that's not what gender affirming

1686
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 7: care is. So but the thing is right, it's fucking

1687
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 7: impossible to tell whether this would result in them actually

1688
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 7: banning all gender affirming care whatsoever, which includes other stuff

1689
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 7: as well, or if it's just a more limited ban

1690
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 7: like who the fuck knows, because they're not being specific

1691
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 7: at all, so this can mutate into a whole bunch

1692
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 7: of stuff. One of the other immediate sort of impacts

1693
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 7: of banning, particularly of banning medicaid, is that like there's

1694
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 7: a lot of trans people on it, because trans people

1695
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 7: are significantly poorer than SIS people. So I mean, just

1696
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 7: just to take like a random statistic op so, the

1697
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 7: unemployment rate right now in the US is three point

1698
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 7: eight percent. The unemployment rate for trans people is eighteen percent,

1699
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:42,560
Speaker 7: which is nineteen thirty five great depression levels of unemployment.

1700
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 7: So you know, if you're a transperson out there and

1701
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 7: you're listening to people tell you how great the economy is,

1702
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 7: and you're like, what the fuck is going on, the

1703
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 7: answer is that you literally do not live in the

1704
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 7: same world as the cist people who are telling you this.

1705
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 7: You live the nineteen nineteen thirty five Great Depression. So yeah,

1706
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 7: and you know, so, so cutting off one of the

1707
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 7: ways that people can access medical care if they you know,

1708
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 7: can't afford it is a fucking disaster.

1709
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 4: This is going to I don't like, presumably if this.

1710
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,560
Speaker 7: Goes through with, the only way that you're going to

1711
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 7: be able to get like gender affirming care if you're

1712
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 7: a kid is by having rich parents and going to

1713
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 7: like some kind of clinic that doesn't take Medicaid Medicare Medicaid. Yeah,

1714
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 7: so you know what else doesn't take Medicare Medicaid?

1715
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 4: Actually who knows? I don't know.

1716
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 7: Look, it's a bad time to ad pivots. Okay, so

1717
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 7: we're back, So okay, now, having gone into all of

1718
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 7: that detail, Number four is just quote pass a law

1719
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,799
Speaker 7: prohibiting child sexual mutilation in all fifty states.

1720
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 2: So this is see, this is this is a great

1721
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 2: example of the thing I was just talking about, how like, theoretically,

1722
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 2: if one was as smart ass, you'd be like, oh,

1723
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 2: so you're banning circumcision. You're like, no, of course not,

1724
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 2: because they're they're not thinking about this sort of thing.

1725
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 2: This is this is like yeah, no, it's it's just yeah,

1726
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:21,799
Speaker 2: trans kids can't get which also like almost never happens.

1727
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 2: There may be like one or two very bizarre like

1728
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 2: outliers where someone has gone through extensive therapy from a

1729
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 2: very young age that might result in them receiving such

1730
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 2: surgery at like sixteen or seventeen, but that is such

1731
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 2: a minuscule amount that that simply just does not happen. Yeah,

1732
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 2: in any real statistical notion, you know.

1733
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 4: But I mean, but this is one of these things.

1734
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 7: It's hard because it's like, okay, so like what are

1735
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 7: they actually what are they talking about?

1736
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 4: And the answer is who the fuck knows.

1737
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 2: This cure they think this is happening?

1738
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 4: Well no, But but also.

1739
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 7: Like because like the you know, one of the things

1740
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 7: that they do here, right is they'll they'll talk about

1741
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 7: female like they'll talk about like general and mutilations like whatever.

1742
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,440
Speaker 7: But they're also include in a like puberty blockers.

1743
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course because because to them, peuty blockers are

1744
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 2: like a chemical castration device.

1745
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's all you know, this is one of

1746
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 7: these things. But you know, but the thing I should

1747
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 7: mention about this one that is, I don't know. It's

1748
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,560
Speaker 7: something I'm short of resident to talk about because I

1749
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 7: I don't know, like, I don't like I'm torn between

1750
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 7: wanting to spread panic and wanting to be like, well,

1751
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 7: this is probably what's going to happen. But there's a

1752
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 7: non zero chance that with how far this stuff has gone,

1753
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 7: they Republicans take the House in the Senate, that this

1754
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 7: bill turns into just a full band, because that's what's

1755
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 7: being pushed for now by the sort of constituencies that

1756
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 7: this stuff is for. It's just like a full band

1757
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 7: and all care. It's way less popular than even the

1758
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 7: anti TRANSCITD stuff, which is not very popular. But on

1759
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 7: the other hand, like this is I mean, this entire

1760
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 7: thing is just Trump sort of like being like yeah,

1761
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 7: sure whatever to these like these weird anti transdiptions.

1762
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, there certainly are a percentage of Republican politicians and

1763
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 2: like right wing influencers who do want some of these

1764
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 2: bills to expand up to just including everyone or everyone

1765
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 2: under the edge of twenty five. As as we've mentioned before,

1766
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 2: I still don't think there's it's it's it's too far

1767
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 2: off to say whether or not this is like something

1768
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 2: to actually like worry about in any in any real sense.

1769
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 2: It's it's it's too murky.

1770
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1771
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 7: But on the other hand, he is he is very

1772
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 7: explicit on just banning all banning care for minors. Like

1773
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 7: that's this thing that he's very like, that's just in

1774
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 7: the text.

1775
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 5: Right.

1776
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 7: The next one is one of the this is like

1777
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 7: one of the sort of almost every bill that gets

1778
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 7: passed by a state legislature now has this provision that

1779
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 7: creates like quote the private right of action for victims

1780
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 7: to sue doctors for anyone who got any kind of

1781
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 7: gender for mccare as a minor.

1782
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 4: This is We've talked about this on the show before.

1783
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 4: This is this is you know, this is.

1784
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 7: A thing that lets d transgrifters who think that God

1785
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 7: talks to them like try to go and destroy like

1786
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 7: doctors and clinics. Yeah, it's one of the tactics that

1787
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 7: they use to try to like run people who they

1788
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 7: can't otherwise go after legally out of existence. So you know,

1789
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 7: that's like a that's just a sort of normal, classic

1790
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 7: anti trans thing that they want to bring to And well,

1791
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 7: I guess the other important part of it is is

1792
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 7: having this on a national level, lets them target clinics

1793
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 7: in like blue states that they otherwise normally wouldn't be

1794
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 7: able to.

1795
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the big goal of a lot

1796
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 2: of this federal stuff is being able to actually have

1797
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 2: it effect, like in New York, California, the other half

1798
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 2: of the country. Whereas because right wing governors are doing

1799
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 2: all this sort of stuff in a lot of the

1800
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 2: red states, but that is not satisfying to a lot

1801
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 2: of these people. They the reason why this is being

1802
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 2: pushed on off level is to try to put as

1803
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 2: much pressure on blue states as they can, just out

1804
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 2: of the desire for sheer human misery. Yep.

1805
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 7: Now speaking of the desire for human misery. So there

1806
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 7: is just a there is one very trump one that

1807
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 7: I've actually haven't seen before, quote direct the Department of

1808
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 7: Justice to investigate big pharma and the big hospital networks

1809
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 7: to determine whether they deliberately covered up horrific long term

1810
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 7: side effects of quote sex transitions to get rich at

1811
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:32,600
Speaker 7: the expense of vulnerable patients, or illegally marketed hormones and

1812
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 7: puberty blockers which are in no way licensed or approved

1813
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 7: for this use.

1814
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 2: That's that's deeply fundy because it's just like nothing he's

1815
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 2: saying is real.

1816
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 7: No, like, all that's fake. The long term side effects

1817
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 7: of sex transition is being extremely based and cool, but.

1818
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 2: No, like there's also there's just nothing to support any

1819
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 2: of that notion. So even if the DJ does investigate this,

1820
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 2: they're not gonna find anything because no one's trying to

1821
01:38:56,640 --> 01:39:00,600
Speaker 2: market testosterone or estrogen to like make money off of it.

1822
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 4: I know.

1823
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 2: This is one thing that certain freaks at the Daily

1824
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 2: Wire try to like talk about being like, Ooh, the

1825
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,719
Speaker 2: shady pharmaceutical companies are making all this money off of estrogen.

1826
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 2: It just isn't true because not Yeah, most people aren't

1827
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 2: paying for estrogen anyway, They're getting it through like health

1828
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 2: insurance that the most I have to pay for is

1829
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 2: the fucking needles.

1830
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 7: Well and also and also think about estrogen, is like

1831
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 7: the majority of the people who get estrogen urs sists women.

1832
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Like so.

1833
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,600
Speaker 2: The majority of people who get testosterone are male bodybuilders.

1834
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, And it's like, like, have you ever fucking tried to

1835
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 7: like get a like get like like even something like

1836
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 7: facial feminization surgery, which is like technically speaking, is like

1837
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 7: a fairly highly paid from when use plastic surgeon do

1838
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 7: you know how long the waiting lists are for that

1839
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,799
Speaker 7: you can't even pay them to do this to you.

1840
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 7: You have to pay them and then wait for fucking

1841
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,600
Speaker 7: years because no one does it.

1842
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 2: It's like it's it's something that I think coming off

1843
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 2: of like the epidemic, we have certain influencers online who

1844
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 2: are trying to like find different ways to tie in

1845
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 2: big pharma to whatever thing they're currently talking about, and

1846
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 2: they're trying to do that with trans healthcare, and it

1847
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 2: just it is Honestly, it doesn't the reason why you

1848
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 2: hardly get talked about because because it doesn't lead anywhere.

1849
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: It'll get a passing mentioned and the what is a

1850
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 2: Woman documentary, it'll get this passing mentioned by Trump, but

1851
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 2: like you don't actually see anything on the legislative level

1852
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 2: actually targeting this because it's just there's just nothing to do.

1853
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: There's nothing to investigate. Also, all of these drugs are

1854
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 2: approved and tested for all of these things. Yeah, yeah,

1855
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 2: it happened for like decades, so like it's it's it's

1856
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 2: simply not real.

1857
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, this is the thing where I think

1858
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 7: the actual effect of this with DJ would just be

1859
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 7: Trump doing like random witch hunts and like going through

1860
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 7: and like rating patients files for shit, which.

1861
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 2: Like Peppa, Heppa, you're not allowed, not allowed.

1862
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 7: I don't think the trumpets this department is gonna give us.

1863
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 7: So well, here's the thing. Is the Supreme Court going

1864
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 7: to stop them? No, of course, this ree courd is

1865
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:01,560
Speaker 7: not gonna stop.

1866
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 2: Like this is such a non problem because there's just

1867
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 2: nothing to do here.

1868
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 7: Yes, but it's like I don't know, like I think

1869
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 7: the prospect of Trump realizing he could actually just do

1870
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 7: unlimited judicial tyranny and do whatever the fuck he wants

1871
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 7: in the Supreme Court, like sure seven to two will

1872
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,839
Speaker 7: be like, yeah, cops have the right to like execute

1873
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 7: trans prisoners or some ship.

1874
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not what's currently being talked about.

1875
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, But I mean I do I

1876
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 7: do think there'll be sort of like fake scare mongeri investigations.

1877
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 4: I don't sure.

1878
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 2: I just don't think it'll lead. I just don't think

1879
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 2: it'll lead anywhere. I think it's mostly just like a

1880
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 2: wild goose chase to satisfy whatever fucking person who watches

1881
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 2: too many right wing podcasts on YouTube. So like it's

1882
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 2: it's I don't see this as anything like super pressing

1883
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:48,759
Speaker 2: the next one I think.

1884
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 7: Actually could be real, depending on how motivated they are

1885
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 7: to do it. So the next one, so this is

1886
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 7: a ban on teachers and anyone who works. So this

1887
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 7: this is this is supposed to be a directive sent

1888
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 7: down from the Department of Education, and it says no

1889
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 7: one who works for a school, So no teachers or

1890
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 7: any school administration can tell a kid that they might

1891
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 7: be trans and that the consequences for this are civil

1892
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 7: like civil rights like investigations into them, and also the

1893
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 7: elimination of federal funding for any school district where this happens. Okay,

1894
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 7: and that's this is effect What this effectively is is

1895
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 7: a threat to cut off federal funding from states if

1896
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 7: they don't implement what is effectively a don't say trans bill.

1897
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 4: That one.

1898
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 7: I think that one's going to be pretty real. It

1899
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 7: kind of depends on the extent to which the Department

1900
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 7: of Education is willing to spend a bunch of time

1901
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 7: going through individual cases. But you know, like, given that

1902
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 7: it's possible that Department of Education just gets filled with

1903
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 7: a bunch of like deranged Trump weirdos, I think there's

1904
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 7: a real chance that this one actually goes through and

1905
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 7: does stuff yeah. And the other thing without that one

1906
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 7: is because because that's a directive through federal agencies, he

1907
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 7: doesn't it doesn't have to go through Congress, which is

1908
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 7: sort of alarming. It's I don't know, It's one of

1909
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 7: these things where it's the question of how powerful is

1910
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 7: the federal bureaucracy going to be? And I tend to

1911
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 7: lean towards the side of the federal bureaucracy has an

1912
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 7: imense capacity to cause harm. The last part is try.

1913
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 7: He wants to get a bill in Congress that ends

1914
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 7: all recognition of their being non binary people and saying

1915
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 7: that the only genders are men and women. So this

1916
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 7: would do things immediately like getting rid of like the

1917
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 7: ex gender marker on passports and only recognizing people's to

1918
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 7: sign gender at birth, which means the government is now

1919
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 7: saying that only to like, only two genders exist, and

1920
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,759
Speaker 7: also that the federal bureaucracy gets to assign you a gender,

1921
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 7: which is, you know, normally the exact kind of federal

1922
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 7: tyranny the Republican Party decries, but you know, they hate us.

1923
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 2: Do they ever? Do they ever actually decry that sort

1924
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 2: of tyranny.

1925
01:43:56,120 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 7: Federal Why federal tyranny they're supposed to. I think it's

1926
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 7: to be their thing.

1927
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 2: It's also less like the federal government declaring your gender.

1928
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 2: It's like whatever random doctor fills out that.

1929
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, but sure, but the the but the

1930
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 7: government now is forcing you to, in their eyes, be

1931
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 7: whatever gender that they decide that you want.

1932
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 2: Yes, And we've had we've had some stuff like this

1933
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 2: try to get passed through in Europe and certain certain

1934
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: certain US states for like their own state ideas.

1935
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 4: Yes, So that's part. I don't know.

1936
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 7: Why this bill is these three things lumped together, but

1937
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 7: it's the bill. This specific bill is this one using

1938
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,879
Speaker 7: Title nine to stop transfoman from playing in women's sports

1939
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 7: in college or in schools. Sure, and then protecting the

1940
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 7: right of the parent to keep your kid from transitioning,

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Speaker 7: which is fucking So that's fascinating because protecting the right

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Speaker 7: of the parent to make to have your kid not

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Speaker 7: transition that that's some really interesting wording there. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 7: so let me read the exactly. The exact wording is

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Speaker 7: protect the right of parents from being forced to allow

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Speaker 7: their child to assume a new gender identity without the parents' consent.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so they're referring to the types of parental Bill

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Speaker 2: of Rights laws. Yeah, that have passed in at like

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Speaker 2: six Republican states. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So the last one I think is really interesting and

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Speaker 7: it kind of gives the game away as to what

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Speaker 7: this is all, like, what the actual point of this

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Speaker 7: is for someone like Trump who's not that interested, doesn't

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Speaker 7: like transile but isn't that interested. And this one, okay,

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Speaker 7: I'm going to read it first. As part of our

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Speaker 7: new credentialing system, a credentialing body for teachers, we will

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Speaker 7: promote positive education about the nuclear family, the role of

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Speaker 7: mothers and fathers, and celebrating rather than erasing the things

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Speaker 7: that make men and women different and unique. Sure, so

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Speaker 7: this is literally this is this is legislating institutional like

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Speaker 7: sexism education. Yes, And you know, we've talked about the

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Speaker 7: credentialing stuff. It's unclear to me how this would work.

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Speaker 7: It's not it's not quite the same credentialing thing that

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Speaker 7: you were talking about. But basically, this is a federal

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Speaker 7: mandate that says that you can't be a teacher without

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Speaker 7: teaching sexism, which.

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Speaker 2: Is I'm sure, I'm sure the teachers unions will love

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Speaker 2: to take that one on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, I'm I and this is one of

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Speaker 7: the things that I I don't know. I mean, you

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Speaker 7: have to like go into like walk in with a

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Speaker 7: stick and beat them on it. But I am so

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Speaker 7: excited for the Trump administration has to deal with an

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Speaker 7: actual national teacher strike. Like, have fun with that one,

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Speaker 7: you dip shits.

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Speaker 2: This is why these types of conservatives really really hate

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Speaker 2: teachers unions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they frame teachers unions as being like one of

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Speaker 2: like the most evil lobbying forces in America because they

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Speaker 2: really don't like that they don't have complete total control

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Speaker 2: over teaching kids whatever kind of fucked up nuclear family

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Speaker 2: patriarchal bullshit that they want to like mandate by law.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and so they're going to attempt to do They're

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Speaker 7: they're they're they're they're going to attempt to every every

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Speaker 7: They're gonna they're gonna make everyone watch a shitty Matt

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Speaker 7: Walsh documentary or some ship. And if you complain about it,

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Speaker 7: they they they prosecute you under the Civil Rights Act

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Speaker 7: for being good luck discrimination or something. So that's that's

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Speaker 7: that's that's Trump's plan to protect children from left wing

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Speaker 7: gender insanity. It's really quite bad. As funny as some

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Speaker 7: of it is. I mean, it's a bunch of gender

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Speaker 7: firming care bands sort of stitch together with stuff trying

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Speaker 7: to knock hospitals out from doing it. Stitch to the

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Speaker 7: just the sexism law.

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Speaker 2: Very cool.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's quite bad. Come back tomorrow for probably even worse.

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Speaker 6: Ship.

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Speaker 7: Don't remember which one is tomorrow, but you'll.

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Speaker 4: We'll find out when we do.

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Speaker 9: Hello, welcome, This is it could happen here and I

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Speaker 9: am Sharene. Today we are continuing to talk about Agenda

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Speaker 9: forty seven and this episode is about quote unquote big Pharma.

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Speaker 9: Trump often goes after big Pharma in his campaign rhetoric,

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Speaker 9: and there is a lot of content within Agenda forty

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Speaker 9: seven that addresses what he views as the problems with

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Speaker 9: the pharmaceutical industry. In his first campaign for president, Donald

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Speaker 9: Trump tapped into bipartisan anger over high drug prices to

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Speaker 9: bash pharmaceutical companies. In his latest run for president, he

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Speaker 9: is echoing more extreme elements of his party to suggest

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Speaker 9: that the industry's products may be hurting Americans, particularly children.

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Speaker 9: Using children in this way is usually a tried and

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Speaker 9: true tactic to make people get up in arms about something,

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Speaker 9: and it works especially on those who may be less informed,

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Speaker 9: and there are a plethora of reasons as to why

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Speaker 9: our healthcare system is absolute shit and completely sucks, and

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Speaker 9: it's more often a hindrance to the average American. But

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Speaker 9: when Trump continues to spout unfounded and dangerous claims about

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Speaker 9: the pharmaceutical industry, all this does is further undermine public

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Speaker 9: health and any remaining faith that Americas have in it.

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Speaker 9: It reflects how deeply the mistrust of health institutions and

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Speaker 9: anti science rhetoric have become embedded, especially within a sizeable

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Speaker 9: faction of the Republican Party, following the pandemic. Trump's comments

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Speaker 9: about drug makers, posted in policy proposals and videos on

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Speaker 9: his campaign website have largely flown under the radar, as

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Speaker 9: his campaign speeches have doubled down on extreme rhetoric, like

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Speaker 9: his use of anti immigration language and praise of foreign authoritarians.

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Speaker 9: One of the Jenda forty seven proposals on Trump's campaign

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Speaker 9: website is called Addressing the Rise of Chronic Childhood Illnesses,

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Speaker 9: and it cites a quote unexplained and alarming growth in

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Speaker 9: the prevalence of chronic illnesses and health problems, especially in children.

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Speaker 9: End quote. In a June twenty twenty three video that

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Speaker 9: was posted to truth Social Trump questions whether the food

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Speaker 9: we eat, environmental toxins, or the quote over prescription of

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Speaker 9: certain medications is contributing to this increase of chronic health

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Speaker 9: problems and illnesses in children. In the video, Trump says,

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Speaker 9: too often our public health establishment is too close to

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Speaker 9: big pharma. They make a lot of money big pharma,

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Speaker 9: big corporations, and other special interests does not want to

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Speaker 9: ask the tough questions about what is happening to our

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Speaker 9: children's health. If big pharma defrauds American patients and taxpayers,

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Speaker 9: or puts profits above people, they must be investigated and

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Speaker 9: held accountable. Trump goes on to call for a quote

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Speaker 9: special presidential can mission of independent minds who are not

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Speaker 9: bought and paid for by big pharma to investigate the

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Speaker 9: rise of chronic illness. Interestingly enough, Trump's language around childhood

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Speaker 9: illness is reminiscent of Robert F. Kennedy Junior's views, who

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Speaker 9: has been a prominent vaccine skeptic running for president as

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Speaker 9: an independent, and he has been praised by Trump as

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Speaker 9: a quote common sense guy. In a video on his

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Speaker 9: campaign website, Kennedy promises to quote end the chronic disease

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Speaker 9: epidemic in this country. Kennedy has promoted the discredited theory

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Speaker 9: that vaccines cause autism, and though he doesn't directly make

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Speaker 9: this claim in the video, he previously tied the quote

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Speaker 9: children's health crisis to quote environmental toxins and vaccines in

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Speaker 9: an ebook published by The Children's Health Defense, which he

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Speaker 9: also founded. Kennedy's campaign spokesperson Stephanie Spear said that Kennedy

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Speaker 9: is pleased that Trump is highlighting the rise in childhood disease.

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Speaker 9: Trump's attention to the issue testifies to the success of

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Speaker 9: the Children's Health Defense, she said, and many other activist

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Speaker 9: organizations in putting the chronic disease epidemic on the political radar.

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Speaker 9: And while it is true that the rate of conditions

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Speaker 9: including disabilities, mental health diagnoses, ADHD diagnoses, and obesity, they

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Speaker 9: have gone up among children in recent years, and this

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Speaker 9: is according to the American Academy of Pediatrics, there are

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Speaker 9: numerous and complex social, health and environmental factors that underlie

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Speaker 9: these numbers. Increased awareness and better ability to diagnose some

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Speaker 9: conditions are believed to be contributing factors. Vaccine scientist and

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Speaker 9: pediatrician Peter Hotez said Trump's conspiratorial language is unhelpful, as

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Speaker 9: the anti vaccine movement in recent years has sought to

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Speaker 9: tie vaccines to a range of chronic diseases.

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Speaker 4: Quote.

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Speaker 9: Now that the far right has adopted the anti vaccine movement,

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Speaker 9: it's very conspiracy laden. The anti vaccine movement's rhetoric on

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Speaker 9: chronic illnesses now being voiced by Trump is so vague

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Speaker 9: and badly crafted. He says, how do you even address it?

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Speaker 9: Hotels want to say that it gives them a license

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Speaker 9: to bring up any condition they want, whether it's asthma,

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Speaker 9: or whether it's a peanut allergy, or whether it's lupus.

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Speaker 9: They just use it as a catch all for whatever

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Speaker 9: they feel like alleging. At the time, a spokesperson for

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Speaker 9: Pharma aka the main drugmaker lobby, did not address Trump's

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Speaker 9: proposals directly when they were asked about them. Alex Shreiver,

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Speaker 9: Pharma's senior vice president of public affairs, told Axios in

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Speaker 9: an emailed statement, political rhetorics surrounding healthcare will only continue

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Speaker 9: to rise as we enter an election year. Candidates should

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Speaker 9: focus on voters' top priorities, lowering out of pocket costs

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Speaker 9: and holding insurers and their pharmacy benefit managers accountable. Long

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Speaker 9: story short. The trust in public health institutions plummeted among

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Speaker 9: Republicans during the pandemic, with prominent members of the party

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Speaker 9: questioning the safety of COVID vaccines and the actions of

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Speaker 9: vaccine makers as well as government agencies in Despite Trump's

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Speaker 9: own history of vaccine skeptical comments, his administration's Operation Warp

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Speaker 9: Speed produced safe and affected COVID vaccines at an unprecedented pace,

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Speaker 9: an achievement that his base doesn't really give him much

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Speaker 9: credit for. Vaccine skepticism has grown among GOP voters in

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Speaker 9: recent years. In recent KAFAKA the Kaiser Family Foundation polling,

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Speaker 9: it found that Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats

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Speaker 9: to believe that misinformation about COVID nineteen in vaccines are true,

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Speaker 9: although independents are not very far behind them, or in

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Speaker 9: some cases they are more likely to believe misinformation. For example,

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Speaker 9: twenty nine percent of Republicans said that it's probably or

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Speaker 9: definitely true that the combined measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine

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Speaker 9: has been proven to cause autism in children, compared with

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Speaker 9: fourteen percent of Democrats and thirty four percent of INDE.

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Speaker 9: It's very important to emphasize that scientific research has repeatedly

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Speaker 9: found no association whatsoever between the MMR vaccine and autism.

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Speaker 9: Trump's calls for investigations into big pharma. It also taps

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Speaker 9: into GOP voters' anxieties over education, gender affirming care for adolescence,

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Speaker 9: and the youth mental health crisis. A school's related proposal

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Speaker 9: on Trump's campaign website calls for the Food and Drug

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Speaker 9: Administration to convene a quote, outside panel to investigate whether

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Speaker 9: transgender hormone treatments and ideology increase the risk of extreme depression, aggression,

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Speaker 9: and violence. Last spring, Trump made a similar pledge during

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Speaker 9: a speech given at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting.

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Speaker 9: The campaign says that the Trump administration will explore whether

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Speaker 9: quote common psychiatric drugs, as well as genetically engineered cannabis

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Speaker 9: and other narcotics, are causing psychotic breaks. It also calls

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Speaker 9: for a Department of Justice investigation into way their quote,

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Speaker 9: big pharma and the big hospital networks have covered up

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Speaker 9: the horrific long term side effects of sex transitions in

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Speaker 9: order to get rich at the expense of vulnerable patients.

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Speaker 9: And another proposal to quote dismantle the deep state. It

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Speaker 9: specifically calls out big pharma as part of the plan

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Speaker 9: to quote ban federal bureaucrats from taking jobs at the

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Speaker 9: companies they deal with and regulate. In an ideal world,

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Speaker 9: which we are clearly very very far from. The idea

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Speaker 9: that you can trust the prescription drugs that a health

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Speaker 9: provider offers you. It should be a basic societal norm.

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Speaker 9: While mainstream politicians across the political spectrum on both the

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Speaker 9: right and the left four years have criticized the pharmaceutical

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Speaker 9: industry over pricing, there has been a common understanding that,

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Speaker 9: for the most part, the US system can be trusted

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Speaker 9: to place safe and effective drugs on the market and

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Speaker 9: to remove them if new evidence showing otherwise arises, is

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Speaker 9: suggesting negligence or cover ups of safety issues. Vaccine science

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Speaker 9: is a pediatrician Peter Hotess again. He said, elements of

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Speaker 9: the GOP, especially the far right, has been targeting science

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Speaker 9: and scientists as enemies of the state. I was hoping

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Speaker 9: Trump would not go there. Let's take our first break

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Speaker 9: and we will be right back. Another part of Trump's

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Speaker 9: Agenda forty seven plan to take on big pharma is

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Speaker 9: to end the global freeloading on American consumers. It's honestly

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Speaker 9: a little difficult for me to just not read aloud

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Speaker 9: the transcripts that are on Trump's website that describe his

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Speaker 9: agenda for Agenda forty seven, because they're just pure comedy

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Speaker 9: and they're all just provided on his website for our entertainment.

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Speaker 9: So I won't read all the transcripts, but I will

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Speaker 9: read the highlights. Here it goes crooked. Joe Biden likes

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Speaker 9: to pretend that he stands up to big pharma, but

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Speaker 9: in fact, I was the only president in modern times

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Speaker 9: whoever took on big pharma, and I took it head on.

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Speaker 9: Biden canceled my tough on pharma policies the moment he

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Speaker 9: had a chance as president, I signed a historic executive

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Speaker 9: order declaring that the United States government would pay the

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Speaker 9: same price for pharmaceuticals as other foreign countries, and no more.

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Speaker 9: We don't want to pay anymore. Can you imagine that?

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Speaker 9: How simple would that be? This would have saved American

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Speaker 9: patients billions and billions of dollars. But shortly after taking office,

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Speaker 9: Joe Biden rescinded my executive order, stabbing patients and US

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Speaker 9: citizens and especially our seniors right in the back. For

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Speaker 9: many years, Americans have been paying among the highest prices

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Speaker 9: in the world for our prescription drugs, while other countries

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Speaker 9: negotiate sweetheart deals off the backs of America. On day

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Speaker 9: one of my new term, I will sign an executive

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Speaker 9: order to end this global free loading on American consumers

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Speaker 9: for once and for all. The United States is tired

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Speaker 9: of getting ripped off. We've been ripped off by everybody

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01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 9: for so many decades. We are tired of it not

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Speaker 9: going to happen. They should have never rescinded my original

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Speaker 9: executive order. It just shows you the power of big pharma.

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Speaker 9: Thank you very much. This was a very easy one,

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Speaker 9: and this was an honor to tell you because this

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Speaker 9: is something that should never have happened. It should never

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Speaker 9: ever have rescinded my executive order. I just I had

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Speaker 9: to read that whole thing because it's incredible that these

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Speaker 9: transcripts are up here, because they are so ridiculous. Sometimes

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Speaker 9: I love that they also included like the ending after

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Speaker 9: he already said thank you, how he was like, this

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Speaker 9: was a very easy one, right anyway, I just thought

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Speaker 9: that transcript was worth a little read. Those are his words,

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Speaker 9: what he wants to do, and how he thinks. There's

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Speaker 9: more transcripts later that I find funny, but for an now,

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Speaker 9: let's go into what he's saying. Trump also has a

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Speaker 9: plan to quote end Joe Biden's pharmaceutical shortages and return

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Speaker 9: the manufacturer of life saving drugs to the United States.

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Speaker 9: This is not just a public health crisis, it's a

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Speaker 9: national security crisis, he says. As part of my plan

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Speaker 9: to obtain total independence from China, we will phase in

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02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 9: tariffs and import restrictions to bring back production of all

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02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:28,000
Speaker 9: essential medicines to the United States of America where they belong.

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02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:31,120
Speaker 9: I signed an executive order to begin this process in

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty, but Biden has shamefully failed to follow through.

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Speaker 9: Part of this plan for Agenda forty seven will be

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Speaker 9: to restore this executive order. He keeps talking about Executive

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Speaker 9: Order one three nine four to four, which was dated

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Speaker 9: August sixth, twenty twenty. The executive order required federal agencies

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Speaker 9: to quote by American by facilitating the domestic production of

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Speaker 9: medicines and medical devices that the FDA determined essential to

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Speaker 9: public health. It did so by requiring federal agency to

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Speaker 9: buy medicines and medical devices that are entirely produced in

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Speaker 9: the United States. Trump says that restoring this executive order

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Speaker 9: will kickstart the domestic production of life saving drugs. His

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Speaker 9: website says, American doctors should never have to give a

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Speaker 9: patient a drug from an unapproved facility in China or India.

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Speaker 9: We can and must produce these essential medicines at home,

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Speaker 9: rather than allowing federal agencies to buy essential medicines from

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Speaker 9: quote unsafe foreign countries. Another angle of his Agenda forty

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Speaker 9: seven plan describes how Joe Biden's drug shortage constitutes an

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Speaker 9: urgent public health crisis. It says that Joe Biden's drug

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Speaker 9: shortage is fueled by over reliance on foreign made medicines and,

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Speaker 9: in some cases, potentially unsafe manufacturers. Here's some of that

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Speaker 9: fund transcript. Under Crooked Joe Biden, there has been a

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Speaker 9: catastrophic increase in shortages of essential medicines. It's a mess.

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Speaker 9: There's currently a shortage of at least fourteen critical cancer drugs

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Speaker 9: ugs in the United States. They just can't get it,

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02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:06,440
Speaker 9: and every month of delay cancer treatment increases the risk

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Speaker 9: of death by at least ten percent. It's unthinkable that

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Speaker 9: this could be happening in the United States of America

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Speaker 9: in twenty twenty three. It is truly unbelievable. We are

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Speaker 9: becoming a third world country very rapidly, between our open

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Speaker 9: borders and our bad elections. We are third world. He

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Speaker 9: goes on to say that, even more dangerously, the top

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Speaker 9: producer of critical medicines that we rely on in the

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Speaker 9: United States is a place called China. China produces ninety

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Speaker 9: five percent of all ibuprofen, ninety one percent of hyder cortizone,

2229
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Speaker 9: seventy percent of all taile nol, and nearly half of

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Speaker 9: all penicillin. Can you imagine that this is not just

2231
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:48,680
Speaker 9: a public health crisis, this is a national security crisis.

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02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 9: As part of my plan to obtain total independence from China,

2233
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:55,800
Speaker 9: we will phase in tariffs and import restrictions to bring

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02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 9: back production of all essential medicines to the United States

2235
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 9: of America where they long. I signed the executive order

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Speaker 9: to begin this process of twenty twenty, but Biden has

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02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:09,040
Speaker 9: shamefully failed to follow through. He wants it ended, He

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Speaker 9: wants to take care of China. This is a matter

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Speaker 9: of tremendous urgency. American lives are on the line, and

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Speaker 9: it will be one of my top priorities as president.

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Speaker 9: It will also create countless new American jobs. Thank you.

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Speaker 9: In another Agenda forty seven video, Trump announced his plan

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Speaker 9: to eradicate the drug addiction crisis in America. We will

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Speaker 9: not rest until we have ended the drug addiction crisis,

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02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:39,000
Speaker 9: he says. For three decades before my election, drug overdose

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Speaker 9: deaths increased every single year. Under my leadership, we took

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Speaker 9: the drug and fetanol crisis head on, and we achieved

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02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 9: the first reduction in overdose deaths in more than thirty years.

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Speaker 9: On his website, in all caps, it says saving American lives.

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Speaker 9: It says that Trump has pledged that he will not

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Speaker 9: rest until we end this crisis, and that he will

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Speaker 9: impose a full naval embargo on the drug cartels and

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02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:11,600
Speaker 9: deploy military assets to inflict maximum damage on cartel operations.

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Speaker 9: Ask Congress to ensure that drug dealers and human traffickers

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Speaker 9: receive the death penalty. Direct US federal law enforcement to

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Speaker 9: take down the gangs and organize street crime that distribute

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Speaker 9: these deadly narcotics on a local level. Permanently designate fetanol

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Speaker 9: as a federally controlled substance, tell China that if they

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02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:35,120
Speaker 9: do not clamp down on the export of fentanyl's chemical precursors,

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Speaker 9: they will pay a steep price. He wants to strengthen

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Speaker 9: the pillars of work, faith, and family, which give life,

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Speaker 9: meaning and hope for those struggling with addiction, and he

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Speaker 9: wants to expand federal support for faith based counseling, treatment,

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Speaker 9: and recovery programs. It's faith based for me. Even if

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Speaker 9: in theory some of this kind of sounds like a

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02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 9: good idea, both subtly and not so subtly, you see

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02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 9: the bigotry seep through. It's actually not about saving lives

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02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 9: or taking care of addicts. It's about implementing and cementing

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Speaker 9: this country as a quote faith based country and having faith,

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Speaker 9: which obviously only means Christianity. When it's using this context,

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Speaker 9: it's going to be America's savior. And Trump over here

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02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 9: is literally being a Bible salesman. It's so nauseatingly obvious

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Speaker 9: and slimy. It drives me crazy, and the shit actually

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02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:35,800
Speaker 9: works on many many people. The last thing I'll touch

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Speaker 9: on is a section of Agenda forty seven that is

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Speaker 9: titled quote ending the Nightmare of the homeless, drug addicts,

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02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 9: and the dangerously deranged. It describes his plan to quote

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02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 9: rescue American cities from the scourge of homelessness, the drug addicted,

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Speaker 9: and the dangerously deranged. Trump wants to ban urban camping,

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Speaker 9: offering violators the option to either receive treatment and rehabilitation

2281
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Speaker 9: or face arrest. In this transcript, he says, are once

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Speaker 9: great cities have become unlivable, unsanitary nightmares, surrendered to the homeless,

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Speaker 9: the drug addicted, and the violent and dangerously deranged. We

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Speaker 9: are making many suffer for the whims of a deeply

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02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:23,240
Speaker 9: unwell few, and they are unwell. Indeed, the homeless have

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Speaker 9: no right to turn every park and sidewalk into a

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Speaker 9: place for them to squat and do drugs. Americans should

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02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:33,640
Speaker 9: not have to step over piles of needles and waste

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Speaker 9: as they walk down the street in a beautiful city,

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Speaker 9: or at least once beautiful city, because they've changed so

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02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:44,920
Speaker 9: much over the last ten years. Our first consideration should

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02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:47,840
Speaker 9: be the rights and safety of the hard working, law

2293
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:52,040
Speaker 9: abiding citizens who make our society function. When I am

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Speaker 9: back in the White House, we will use every tool, lever,

2295
02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:59,840
Speaker 9: and authority to get the homeless off our streets. We

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02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:02,120
Speaker 9: want to take care of them, but they have to

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02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 9: be off our streets. There is nothing compassionate about letting

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Speaker 9: these individuals live in filth and squalor rather than getting

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Speaker 9: them the help that they need. We need professionals to

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Speaker 9: help them. For a small fraction of what we spend

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Speaker 9: on Ukraine, we can take care of every homeless veteran

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Speaker 9: in America. Our veterans are treated horribly likewise, With all

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Speaker 9: the money we will save by ending mass unskilled migration,

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02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:33,320
Speaker 9: we will have a huge dividend to address this crisis

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Speaker 9: in our own country. Under my strategy, we will ban

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Speaker 9: urban camping wherever possible. Violators of these bands will be arrested,

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Speaker 9: but they will be given the option to accept treatment

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02:07:45,680 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 9: and services if they are willing to be rehabilitated. Many

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Speaker 9: of them don't want that, but we will give them

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Speaker 9: the option. Okay, it's meet again. Basically, Trump's plan to

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Speaker 9: end homelessness is to criminalize it. He wants to make

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Speaker 9: homelessness illegal. Alan Mills, executive director of the Uptown People's

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Speaker 9: Law Center, told Newsweek that Trump's plan is unconstitutional and

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Speaker 9: will dissuade people from seeking assistance when they truly need it.

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Speaker 9: Mills said Trump's remarks left him feeling appalled but unsurprised

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Speaker 9: by the former president's antics based on Trump's long history

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Speaker 9: of anti homeless agendas. He says, it is blatant in

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Speaker 9: the constitution that you can't arrest people just because they

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02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:33,040
Speaker 9: don't have a home. But more importantly, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 9: People are not homeless because they're afraid of punishments. People

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Speaker 9: are homeless because they don't have a home. Trump's plan

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02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:44,880
Speaker 9: isn't over yet, though, He continues by saying that we

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Speaker 9: will then open up large parcels of inexpensive land, bringing doctors, psychiatrists,

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Speaker 9: social workers, and drug rehab specialists, and create tent cities

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Speaker 9: where the homeless can be relocated and their problems identified.

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Speaker 9: We will open up our cities again, make them livable,

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Speaker 9: and make them beautiful. For those who are just temporarily

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02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 9: down on their luck, we will work to help them

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Speaker 9: quickly reintegrate into a normal life. For those who have addictions,

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Speaker 9: substance abuse, and common mental health problems, we will get

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Speaker 9: them into treatment. And for those who are severely mentally

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Speaker 9: ill and deeply disturbed, we will bring them back to

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Speaker 9: mental institutions. Where they belong, with the goal of reintegrating

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02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:28,520
Speaker 9: them back into society once they are well enough to manage.

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Speaker 9: It's a tough task, a very tough task. What's taking

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Speaker 9: place on the streets, what's taken place when they're taking

2337
02:09:34,920 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 9: so much drugs. But the fact is we're going to try.

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02:09:39,720 --> 02:09:42,360
Speaker 9: This strategy will be far better and also far less

2339
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:45,840
Speaker 9: expensive than spending vast sums of taxpayer money to house

2340
02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:49,640
Speaker 9: the homeless and luxury hotels without addressing their underlying issues.

2341
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 9: And they have so many of these underlying issues and needs.

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Speaker 9: This is how I will end the scourge of homelessness

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02:09:56,360 --> 02:10:00,000
Speaker 9: and make our cities clean and safe and beautiful once again.

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02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 9: We will do it. We will bring back America. Anne Olivia,

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Speaker 9: the chief executive officer for the NAEH, the National Alliance

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Speaker 9: to End Homelessness, also condemned a Trump's plan, calling it

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Speaker 9: alarming and dangerous in numerous ways. She said the way

2348
02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:20,360
Speaker 9: to end homelessness is not to arrest people and move

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02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:24,560
Speaker 9: them out of sight into internment camps. Jail isn't housing.

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02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:29,760
Speaker 9: Prison isn't housing. Tent cities aren't housing. Housing with services

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02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:32,960
Speaker 9: tailored to people's specific needs must be at the center

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Speaker 9: of any plan to end homelessness. Prioritizing any immediate strategy

2353
02:10:38,160 --> 02:10:41,560
Speaker 9: other than housing is a red herring, a political ploy

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02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:45,760
Speaker 9: to divert attention from the real resources communities need while

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02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:50,760
Speaker 9: othering people in the most vulnerable situations imaginable. And then

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Speaker 9: there was Vote Vets. Vote Vets is a veterans advocacy group.

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02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:58,000
Speaker 9: They said on Twitter that rather than continue the progress

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02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:01,040
Speaker 9: of helping homeless veterans, Trump lust to find them and

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02:11:01,120 --> 02:11:05,080
Speaker 9: toss them into what can be best described as internment camps.

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Speaker 9: Who all, in all, Agenda forty seven is a big

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Speaker 9: fucking yikes, and it should concern you. I'm going to

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Speaker 9: leave you all with a uplifting quote from February twenty fourth,

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Speaker 9: when Trump spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference. He said,

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Speaker 9: November fifth will be our new liberation day. It will

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Speaker 9: be their judgment day. Wow. Can't wait until then.

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Speaker 1: See ya, hello, and welcome to it could happen here

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Speaker 1: a podcast about things falling apart In this week podcast

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Speaker 1: Agenda forty seven Donald Trump's plan for you know what

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Speaker 1: to do if he winds up winning re election and

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Speaker 1: being back in all of our lives in the sense

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Speaker 1: of having political power as opposed to just back in

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Speaker 1: all of our lives because he never shuts the hell up,

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Speaker 1: and neither do any of the journalists who report on him.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about that all week. You've been listening

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Speaker 1: to the episodes put together one of my colleagues. Today,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking about Trump's border policy, particularly

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Speaker 1: his promise to declare war on the cartels and use

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Speaker 1: the United States military to attack them. Before we get

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Speaker 1: into it, I do want to note, if you notice

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Speaker 1: this sounds a little bit different. I am in Texas currently.

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Speaker 1: My father has leukemia. He's being treated for it. He's

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Speaker 1: on chemo in the hospital, just finished chemo actually, But anyway,

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Speaker 1: I had to fly down to Texas last minute. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not recording this in my normal space. We should

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Speaker 1: be back to normal, you know, very soon here. But

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to explain, if you think it sounds different,

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Speaker 1: it's not me fucking something up. I just had to

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Speaker 1: fly across the country. So let's talk about Agenda forty

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Speaker 1: seven and the Cartels. Back in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: when I was still a baby and in fact in Dallas, Texas,

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Speaker 1: as i am right now, I worked as the secretary

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Speaker 1: for a financial planner named Al Jones. I was bad

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Speaker 1: at this job, and I didn't really know much about

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Speaker 1: financial planning then, but I have since come to suspect

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Speaker 1: that Al was not great at his job either. The

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Speaker 1: first sign of this might have been the fact that

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Speaker 1: when I took the job, Al got excited because I

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Speaker 1: mentioned during our little interview that I wanted to be

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Speaker 1: a writer someday, and he was like, I'm a novelist,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I thought you were a financial planner,

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Speaker 1: and then he hands me a copy of his self

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Speaker 1: published novel.

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Speaker 3: Operation night Watch.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: The plot to this motherfucker was barkingly mad, spurred on

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Speaker 1: by an epidelic of inner city violence. The government sent

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Speaker 1: in a team of special forces guys to take on

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Speaker 1: the criminals. I think it's the government who sends them.

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Speaker 1: They may just be a bunch like Green Berets and

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Speaker 1: Navy seals who decide to fight crime on their own.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while since I read the thing. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to have a hardcover delivered to me, but there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of them left, so you may get

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Speaker 1: to hear more from this book.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, the.

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Speaker 1: Idea of this is that, like Yeah, there's all of

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Speaker 1: these very much racially coded criminals in the streets making

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Speaker 1: life too dangerous for regular people, these evil drug dealers

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Speaker 1: and robbers, and we just need our special forces guys

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Speaker 1: to murder them, right, it was. There was a lot

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Speaker 1: of like uncomfortable fetishization of brutal violence from this very

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Speaker 1: mild mannered seeming dude who mostly held meetings at Texas

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Speaker 1: roadhouses with old people to try to get them to

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Speaker 1: invest in innuities or whatever a split annuity is. I've

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Speaker 1: since forgotten so again, obviously, even at that point in time,

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Speaker 1: mostly having lived either in the country the suburbs, I

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Speaker 1: had spent enough time in Dallas to know his description

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Speaker 1: of inner city life was not precisely accurate. But what

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Speaker 1: I remember most about the book is that it wasn't

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Speaker 1: even really a story. It was and talking to Al

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Speaker 1: made this clear, a literal description of the policy he

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Speaker 1: wanted to see. The thin characters that he included in

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Speaker 1: the story were basically just there to help dress up

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Speaker 1: what was again a policy proposal, and that policy was

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Speaker 1: we should use the US military to kill quote unquote

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Speaker 1: drug dealers. Right now. Over the last fifteen years or so,

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Speaker 1: mainstream Republican policy has actually caught up to my old boss,

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Speaker 1: and now President Trump has included in Agenda forty seven

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Speaker 1: a promise to invade Mexico with US special forces. That's

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Speaker 1: not the extent of the promise. We will be talking

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Speaker 1: about that all through this fun episode. On Deceiver twenty second,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, the Trump campaign uploaded a page titled

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Speaker 1: President Donald J. Trump declares War on Cartels to his

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Speaker 1: campaign website. And I don't know about you, guys, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sick in the motherfucker's voice, So I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to read how this opens. But if you go to

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Speaker 1: the website, you can listen to him say this if

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Speaker 1: that makes you happier. The drug cartels are waging war

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Speaker 1: on America, and it's now time for America to wage

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Speaker 1: war on the cartels. In this war, Joe Biden has

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Speaker 1: cited against the United States, and with the cartels, they're

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Speaker 1: making more money than they've ever made before. Times ten,

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Speaker 1: There's never been anything like it. They're major, major companies.

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Speaker 1: They're bigger than even some of our biggest companies. Biden's

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Speaker 1: open border policies are a deadly betrayal of our nation.

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Speaker 1: He's definitely got a unique diction. Yet you know, Trump

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Speaker 1: came up with that one more or less on his own,

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Speaker 1: didn't need to be scripted. Now, Trump goes on to

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Speaker 1: state after this that when he is president again, the

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Speaker 1: United States government will treat cartels the same way they

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Speaker 1: treated Isis, which you might recall still exists and recently

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Speaker 1: carried out an attack in Russia. Republic picks might note

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Speaker 1: that this attack was by Isis k or Isis Coruscond,

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Speaker 1: which is true. And boy, howdye does Afghanistan come back

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Speaker 1: into this story in a little bit, So just just

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Speaker 1: keep that in mind. But first let's continue with Trump.

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Speaker 1: He claims that under his presidency we had a quote

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Speaker 1: very very strong border and in fact, the strongest border

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Speaker 1: in the history of the country, and quote drugs were

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Speaker 1: at a low for forty five years. Now, it's important

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Speaker 1: to fact check things that both Joe Biden and Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump say. The use the diction he uses here does

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Speaker 1: make fact checking slightly difficult. The strongest border kind of

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Speaker 1: a meaningless term, right, But the claim about drugs being

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Speaker 1: at a low for forty five years can be fact

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Speaker 1: checked to some degree, although again his approach to grammar

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Speaker 1: makes it hard to tell what he's claiming here, right,

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Speaker 1: it's drugs at a low for forty five years, mean, like,

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Speaker 1: drug use is at a low, drugs smuggling is at

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Speaker 1: a low.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He has made variations of this claim often, though, including

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Speaker 1: a note on his campaign website in January twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three that under his presidency, quote, drug overdose deaths decline

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Speaker 1: nationwide for the first time in nearly thirty years. So

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Speaker 1: let's assume that that's kind of what he meant to claim,

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Speaker 1: that drug overdose deaths were the lowest they've been for

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Speaker 1: forty five for forty five years, right, which is again,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just wrong on its face because earlier

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Speaker 1: he said for thirty years, So like, which is it? Donald?

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Speaker 1: But whatever, Let's say that what he meant to claim

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Speaker 1: is that under his presidency, drug overdose deaths were at

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Speaker 1: the lowest point in a long time. Right, If we're

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Speaker 1: being fair, that's the fairest I could be to him.

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Speaker 1: And it is true that the overdose death rate dropped

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Speaker 1: during Trump's presidency for one year in twenty eighteen. That's

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Speaker 1: the only year that it dropped. During each of the

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Speaker 1: other three years he was in office, the overdose rate rose,

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Speaker 1: and in fact, it rose by record numbers in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: PolitiFact also notes quote looking at overdose deaths from synthetic opioids,

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Speaker 1: the closely watched category that accounts for the largest share

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Speaker 1: of all opioid overdose deaths, the rate rose every year

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Speaker 1: of Trump's presidency. This is worth noting because all of

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Speaker 1: the things he wants to do at the border to

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Speaker 1: the cartels, all of his justifications for really needing to

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Speaker 1: crack down on human trafficking, for wanting to use the

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Speaker 1: navy seals or whatever to kill cartel guys to basically

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Speaker 1: invade Mexico, it's to stop Fentonel, which he describes as

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Speaker 1: an existential threat to the country. And you know, makes

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Speaker 1: the claim that basically, when I was president, you know,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff was, we were taking care of it.

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Speaker 1: It was all all declining, and then when Biden took over,

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Speaker 1: it got a lot worse. No, the rate of finanel

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Speaker 1: use wrote in Finnyl related deaths in particular rose every

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Speaker 1: single year of Trump's presidency, every single year. Anyway, Trump

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Speaker 1: promises no mercy to the cartels and that he will

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Speaker 1: designate the major ones foreign terrorist organizations with the goal

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Speaker 1: of cutting off their access to global financial systems. Incidentally,

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Speaker 1: this would provide a pretext to basically charging every drug user,

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Speaker 1: whether or not their drugs had anything to do with

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Speaker 1: a cartel with material support of a terrorist organization, and

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Speaker 1: thus allow night marriish penalties for people caught dealing weed

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Speaker 1: or LSD or whatever, on the justification that they're aiding

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Speaker 1: the cartels with whom we are at war. Trump also

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Speaker 1: states that he will ask Congress to pass legislation to

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Speaker 1: allow the death penalty for quote drug smugglers and human traffickers. Now,

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Speaker 1: He's made similar statements around drug dealers in the past.

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Speaker 1: Here's how this particular rant on the Agenda forty seven

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Speaker 1: website ends. The drug cartels and their allies and the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration have the blood of countless millions on their hands.

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Speaker 1: Millions and millions of families and people are being destroyed.

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Speaker 1: When I am back in the White House, the drug

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Speaker 1: kingpins and vicious traffickers will never sleep soundly again. We

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Speaker 1: did it once, and we did it better than anyone else.

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Speaker 1: There's never been a better border than we had just

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Speaker 1: two years ago. It was strong, it was powerful, and

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Speaker 1: it was respected all over the world, and now we're

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Speaker 1: laughed at all over the world. And we're not going

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Speaker 1: to let that happen much longer. We have to take over.

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Speaker 1: We have to be tough, and we have to be smart,

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02:21:05,480 --> 02:21:07,400
Speaker 1: we have to be fair. But if we don't do

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Speaker 1: something immediately, our country is gone. Now that's all ridiculous,

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Speaker 1: but it behooves us to look into the origins of

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Speaker 1: this particular violent fantasy. When President Trump was still in office,

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Speaker 1: he repeatedly floated variations of a single idea using US

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Speaker 1: missiles to destroy so called drug factories, specifically those producing

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Speaker 1: either fentanyl or methamphetamine. Obviously, cartels do operate sizable facilities

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Speaker 1: and where they prepare drugs for smuggling and sale. They

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Speaker 1: have places where they cut fentanyl, which generally comes from elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: into other drugs, or make it into pills, etc. And

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Speaker 1: they've got places where meth is cooked. Obviously, so, as

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Speaker 1: best as The New York Times has been able to trace,

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Speaker 1: his obsession with military action against Mexico seems to have

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Speaker 1: started in late twenty nineteen. So while the coronavirus is spreading,

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02:21:56,440 --> 02:21:59,400
Speaker 1: our president rather than focusing on a response, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of obsessed with the fentanyl crisis, which is serious, but

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Speaker 1: his way of dealing with it was to hold these constant,

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Speaker 1: large oval office meetings that people absolutely had to attend.

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Speaker 1: Quote some part tennisis from the New York Times. Some

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Speaker 1: participants felt the meetings were of little use because officials

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Speaker 1: tended to perform for mister Trump, and he would perform

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Speaker 1: for them. And that does put the fun idea in

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Speaker 1: my head of Donald Trump and a bunch of friends

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Speaker 1: all dancing about, like, I don't know whatever kind of

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Speaker 1: animal you would train to dance. I'm spacing on that

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Speaker 1: right now. So why don't we just roll to ads

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Speaker 1: for a second. Well, I think of animals. We're back,

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to continue that quote from the New

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Speaker 1: York Times. When the idea of military intervention was brought

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Speaker 1: up at one such meeting, mister Trump turned to Brett Geroor,

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Speaker 1: who was there in his role as the US Assistant

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Speaker 1: Secretary for Health. Mister Gero was also a four star

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Speaker 1: admiral and the Commission Corps of the US Public Health Service,

2574
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:05,840
Speaker 1: and he was wearing his dress uniform. His main point

2575
02:23:05,879 --> 02:23:07,960
Speaker 1: was that the United States was unable to combat the

2576
02:23:08,000 --> 02:23:10,640
Speaker 1: crisis with treatment alone. According to a person briefed on

2577
02:23:10,680 --> 02:23:13,280
Speaker 1: his comments, it was clear from the way mister Trump

2578
02:23:13,360 --> 02:23:16,080
Speaker 1: singled out mister Gerror that he had mistakenly thought he

2579
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:19,240
Speaker 1: was in the military because of his dress uniform. According

2580
02:23:19,240 --> 02:23:22,520
Speaker 1: to two participants in the meeting, mister Gerroor in his response,

2581
02:23:22,560 --> 02:23:26,040
Speaker 1: suggested putting lead to target. The two participants were called

2582
02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:30,440
Speaker 1: that seems likely. Geror denies this right. He claims, well,

2583
02:23:30,480 --> 02:23:32,840
Speaker 1: the President knows me really well. We met all the time.

2584
02:23:32,920 --> 02:23:36,040
Speaker 1: He would never mistake me for a soldier, and like, sure, buddy.

2585
02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:38,400
Speaker 1: For one thing, I totally believe he could meet with

2586
02:23:38,440 --> 02:23:42,680
Speaker 1: Trump regularly and Trump not remember him. But also, it

2587
02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:44,760
Speaker 1: kind of sounds assuming I mean again, and these are

2588
02:23:44,800 --> 02:23:47,080
Speaker 1: all maybe not the best sources, but assuming the people

2589
02:23:47,120 --> 02:23:49,480
Speaker 1: who are like he said we should put lead to

2590
02:23:49,520 --> 02:23:52,000
Speaker 1: target are telling the truth, that sounds to me like

2591
02:23:52,040 --> 02:23:55,359
Speaker 1: this guy wearing his uniform because he knows it'll impress

2592
02:23:55,440 --> 02:24:00,080
Speaker 1: Trump was also trying to use military metaphors because I

2593
02:24:00,080 --> 02:24:03,440
Speaker 1: think maybe was just trying to have this impact on Trump, right,

2594
02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:06,840
Speaker 1: make Trump think of him as like a military official

2595
02:24:06,920 --> 02:24:11,800
Speaker 1: giving advice. There's some claims that people in the administration

2596
02:24:11,879 --> 02:24:14,280
Speaker 1: were so concerned about this and were so terrified that

2597
02:24:14,360 --> 02:24:17,760
Speaker 1: like Trump might actually attack Mexico that they asked Jeror

2598
02:24:17,879 --> 02:24:20,440
Speaker 1: to stop wearing his uniform to meetings, basically being like

2599
02:24:20,480 --> 02:24:23,560
Speaker 1: he's hypnotized by this shit man, Like if you dress

2600
02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:26,080
Speaker 1: like a soldier, he'll take you seriously when you say

2601
02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:29,800
Speaker 1: this crazy bullshit. Anyway, at the same time this is

2602
02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:33,120
Speaker 1: all going on, Attorney General William Barr had also started

2603
02:24:33,160 --> 02:24:36,080
Speaker 1: floating the idea to the President that maybe the United

2604
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:39,560
Speaker 1: States should consider carrying out some attacks in Mexico to

2605
02:24:39,680 --> 02:24:41,720
Speaker 1: kill cartel guys to stop the fentanyl.

2606
02:24:41,920 --> 02:24:42,120
Speaker 4: Right.

2607
02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:44,879
Speaker 1: His argument, though, was not so much that we should

2608
02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:48,240
Speaker 1: do it, but that if we threaten Mexico with military action,

2609
02:24:48,680 --> 02:24:51,279
Speaker 1: that will force the Mexican government to be more aggressive

2610
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:54,400
Speaker 1: against the cartels. Now, William Barr is not a guy

2611
02:24:54,440 --> 02:24:56,680
Speaker 1: I consider very smart, and this is in fact a

2612
02:24:56,760 --> 02:25:01,039
Speaker 1: dumb idea, because like Mexico's government has tried a bunch

2613
02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:04,280
Speaker 1: of different ways to fight the cartels, they haven't destroyed them.

2614
02:25:04,480 --> 02:25:08,400
Speaker 1: Right now, the current president of Mexico's is more on

2615
02:25:08,480 --> 02:25:10,520
Speaker 1: the left, and he has a policy is described as

2616
02:25:10,600 --> 02:25:15,000
Speaker 1: hugs not bullets, right, which is not using the stick

2617
02:25:15,440 --> 02:25:17,520
Speaker 1: to fight the drug cartels. But that doesn't mean that

2618
02:25:17,560 --> 02:25:20,560
Speaker 1: hasn't been tried. The Mexican government and the Mexican military

2619
02:25:20,840 --> 02:25:23,680
Speaker 1: have carried out a number of very high intensity operations

2620
02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:26,720
Speaker 1: against cartels over the years. It's just like, it's hard.

2621
02:25:26,959 --> 02:25:31,440
Speaker 1: The cartel problem is a massive, massive, complicated thing, and

2622
02:25:31,480 --> 02:25:34,800
Speaker 1: the idea that like, if we threaten Mexico, they'll finally

2623
02:25:34,920 --> 02:25:38,879
Speaker 1: do it kind of understates the degree to which Mexico

2624
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:42,279
Speaker 1: is capable of ending this epidemic or ending this problem

2625
02:25:42,360 --> 02:25:45,760
Speaker 1: right of somehow taking back this territory and rendering the

2626
02:25:45,760 --> 02:25:48,520
Speaker 1: cartels unable to function. I don't actually know that they are,

2627
02:25:48,840 --> 02:25:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that. I certainly wouldn't say

2628
02:25:51,400 --> 02:25:55,720
Speaker 1: that the current president's plan is working. But no one

2629
02:25:55,720 --> 02:25:58,760
Speaker 1: else has stopped them either, so I don't know. I

2630
02:25:58,800 --> 02:26:01,680
Speaker 1: think Bar is rather silly when he thinks that it's

2631
02:26:01,720 --> 02:26:04,560
Speaker 1: just a matter of threatening Mexico with an invasion that'll

2632
02:26:04,560 --> 02:26:06,520
Speaker 1: force him to take care of this shit. I don't

2633
02:26:06,560 --> 02:26:08,039
Speaker 1: really know that they have the ability to do that

2634
02:26:08,120 --> 02:26:12,040
Speaker 1: either way. So for his part, Barr does not seem

2635
02:26:12,080 --> 02:26:15,640
Speaker 1: to have actually wanted at military action in Mexico. Again,

2636
02:26:15,720 --> 02:26:18,080
Speaker 1: he's thinking that the threat will do the trick, and

2637
02:26:18,120 --> 02:26:20,880
Speaker 1: in fact, when Trump pushed back that, like, well, maybe

2638
02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:24,720
Speaker 1: we could just shoot some missiles into Mexico. Barr pushed

2639
02:26:24,760 --> 02:26:26,879
Speaker 1: back on this and was like, well, if we fire,

2640
02:26:26,959 --> 02:26:29,720
Speaker 1: missiles will hit we might hit the wrong target, right, Basically,

2641
02:26:29,720 --> 02:26:32,880
Speaker 1: civilian casualties you know, could happen, so we should avoid that.

2642
02:26:32,920 --> 02:26:35,840
Speaker 1: And that really kind of showcases how fucking dangerous someone

2643
02:26:35,920 --> 02:26:39,160
Speaker 1: like Barr is because his plan is he's thinking he's

2644
02:26:39,160 --> 02:26:41,720
Speaker 1: playing forty chess or whatever. It's like, yeah, you know,

2645
02:26:41,760 --> 02:26:43,760
Speaker 1: the Mexican government will get scared and they'll take care

2646
02:26:43,800 --> 02:26:46,279
Speaker 1: of these cartels for us. But when you start floating

2647
02:26:46,320 --> 02:26:48,879
Speaker 1: that to a guy named Trump, he's going to be like, well, yeah,

2648
02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:51,240
Speaker 1: let's just shoot him with missiles. And you may you

2649
02:26:51,280 --> 02:26:54,320
Speaker 1: may push back against that initially, but when your stupid

2650
02:26:54,360 --> 02:26:58,200
Speaker 1: plan to bully Mexico into destroying the cartels doesn't work

2651
02:26:58,520 --> 02:27:01,359
Speaker 1: because they can't or because don't want to be bullied,

2652
02:27:01,959 --> 02:27:03,680
Speaker 1: then what where are you?

2653
02:27:03,920 --> 02:27:04,120
Speaker 4: Right?

2654
02:27:04,440 --> 02:27:06,879
Speaker 1: You can't step down at that point. You can't back

2655
02:27:06,959 --> 02:27:10,840
Speaker 1: off once you've threatened to bomb them, right, because if

2656
02:27:10,840 --> 02:27:13,920
Speaker 1: you threaten to attack and they don't do shit and

2657
02:27:13,959 --> 02:27:16,560
Speaker 1: then you just kind of like back off, you're gonna

2658
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:18,600
Speaker 1: look weak. And that's the worst thing in the world

2659
02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:21,160
Speaker 1: to these people, right, Trump's certainly not going to accept

2660
02:27:21,160 --> 02:27:23,760
Speaker 1: something like that. It's part of why, like what Bar

2661
02:27:23,920 --> 02:27:27,120
Speaker 1: was doing here is just like incredibly irresponsible. Just with

2662
02:27:27,200 --> 02:27:31,200
Speaker 1: a guy like Trump, you can't pull that shit. So

2663
02:27:31,800 --> 02:27:35,560
Speaker 1: this means again that at some point, if this kind

2664
02:27:35,600 --> 02:27:38,400
Speaker 1: of process goes on, if Trump wins office, if he's

2665
02:27:38,440 --> 02:27:40,680
Speaker 1: to carry out something like what Bar was suggesting or

2666
02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:42,680
Speaker 1: something like what your r was suggesting, at some point,

2667
02:27:42,879 --> 02:27:45,400
Speaker 1: Trump's kind of need to use military assets to strike

2668
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:48,920
Speaker 1: Mexico if only to save face. And again, the safest

2669
02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:51,600
Speaker 1: thing for him to use would be missiles to basically

2670
02:27:51,640 --> 02:27:55,840
Speaker 1: fire missiles, you know, guided missiles at factories or whatever

2671
02:27:55,959 --> 02:28:00,000
Speaker 1: making drugs. This avoids risking US servicemen. It certainly avoids

2672
02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:02,480
Speaker 1: it's the risk of them getting captured anyway. I'm gonna

2673
02:28:02,520 --> 02:28:04,960
Speaker 1: quote from the New York Times against here. At least

2674
02:28:04,959 --> 02:28:08,160
Speaker 1: twice during twenty twenty, mister Trump privately asked as Defense

2675
02:28:08,200 --> 02:28:11,800
Speaker 1: Secretary mister Esper about the possibility of sending patriot missiles

2676
02:28:11,800 --> 02:28:14,600
Speaker 1: into Mexico to destroy the drug labs and whether they

2677
02:28:14,600 --> 02:28:17,680
Speaker 1: could blame another country for it. Patriot missiles are not

2678
02:28:17,800 --> 02:28:19,879
Speaker 1: the kind that would be used. They are surfaced to

2679
02:28:19,879 --> 02:28:22,640
Speaker 1: air weapons, but mister Trump had a habit of calling

2680
02:28:22,720 --> 02:28:27,200
Speaker 1: all missiles patriot missiles. According to two former senior administration officials,

2681
02:28:28,120 --> 02:28:30,080
Speaker 1: I just find that fuddy, like, man, you are the

2682
02:28:30,400 --> 02:28:33,440
Speaker 1: you're the commander in chief, and you don't know, like

2683
02:28:33,480 --> 02:28:35,960
Speaker 1: you don't even know that. Like it's I don't expect

2684
02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:37,680
Speaker 1: the president to say, like I want you to fire

2685
02:28:37,720 --> 02:28:40,480
Speaker 1: this exact version of missile. You know, that's maybe a

2686
02:28:40,520 --> 02:28:43,440
Speaker 1: little more granular than is necessary for him to know.

2687
02:28:43,959 --> 02:28:47,040
Speaker 1: But like you should know that patriot missiles don't get

2688
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:50,119
Speaker 1: fired at ground targets. That's not what they do. They're

2689
02:28:50,200 --> 02:28:53,240
Speaker 1: kind of a major part of like our military or

2690
02:28:53,320 --> 02:28:56,720
Speaker 1: mince anti missile defense. It's just it's just very silly

2691
02:28:56,760 --> 02:28:59,480
Speaker 1: of him. All this nonsense came to a head for

2692
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:02,120
Speaker 1: the first time, I'm in twenty twenty when during one

2693
02:29:02,160 --> 02:29:05,280
Speaker 1: of these interminable fentanyl meetings, Trump looked over to Defense

2694
02:29:05,320 --> 02:29:08,320
Speaker 1: Secretary Mark Esper and asked, can we blow up these

2695
02:29:08,400 --> 02:29:10,840
Speaker 1: drug labs with a missile and make it look like

2696
02:29:10,879 --> 02:29:12,120
Speaker 1: another country did it?

2697
02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:13,360
Speaker 2: Now?

2698
02:29:14,640 --> 02:29:18,360
Speaker 1: That's you know, bad, right, Like it brings up a

2699
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:20,400
Speaker 1: lot of questions, namely, like what other country is in

2700
02:29:20,400 --> 02:29:22,840
Speaker 1: a position to fire missiles into Mexico, right, Like, if

2701
02:29:22,879 --> 02:29:24,680
Speaker 1: you're saying, oh, it wasn't US, are you saying it's

2702
02:29:24,720 --> 02:29:26,920
Speaker 1: Canada because they'd have to kind of cross a lot

2703
02:29:26,920 --> 02:29:29,960
Speaker 1: of space to do that. He's saying Guatemalas firing missiles

2704
02:29:29,959 --> 02:29:33,440
Speaker 1: into Mexico because it doesn't really seem like a Guatemala move.

2705
02:29:33,959 --> 02:29:37,400
Speaker 1: You know, who are you going to blame? Thankfully, Esper

2706
02:29:37,560 --> 02:29:39,640
Speaker 1: was one of those rare Trump appointees who possessed a

2707
02:29:39,800 --> 02:29:44,680
Speaker 1: basic minimal capacity for rational thought, and we never, thankfully

2708
02:29:44,920 --> 02:29:47,000
Speaker 1: got the answer to the question what would have happened

2709
02:29:47,000 --> 02:29:50,720
Speaker 1: if he'd fired a missile into Mexico. Esper argued against

2710
02:29:50,720 --> 02:29:52,959
Speaker 1: the idea, and then he wrote about it in his memoir,

2711
02:29:52,959 --> 02:29:54,840
Speaker 1: which I have an issue with. He's one of these

2712
02:29:54,840 --> 02:29:56,800
Speaker 1: guys who, yeah, maybe we should have known about that

2713
02:29:56,879 --> 02:29:59,520
Speaker 1: when it happened, rather than waiting for your fucking book.

2714
02:29:59,560 --> 02:30:01,400
Speaker 1: But people got to get paid.

2715
02:30:01,440 --> 02:30:01,840
Speaker 2: I guess.

2716
02:30:02,520 --> 02:30:07,840
Speaker 1: Reactions from Mexico to these revelations about Trump considering missiling

2717
02:30:07,920 --> 02:30:09,440
Speaker 1: them and now the fact that he's got on his

2718
02:30:09,480 --> 02:30:12,320
Speaker 1: website like our plan is to use military assets to

2719
02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:15,560
Speaker 1: attack the cartels, reactions from Mexico have been pretty universally

2720
02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:18,640
Speaker 1: negative for reasons I probably don't need to elaborate on.

2721
02:30:18,840 --> 02:30:24,240
Speaker 1: President Lopez Obrador told reporters in March, quote, this initiative

2722
02:30:24,280 --> 02:30:27,360
Speaker 1: of the Republicans, besides being irresponsible, is an offense to

2723
02:30:27,400 --> 02:30:30,440
Speaker 1: the people of Mexico, a lack of respect to our independence,

2724
02:30:30,480 --> 02:30:33,120
Speaker 1: to our sovereignty. They do not change their attitude and

2725
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:35,480
Speaker 1: think they are going to use Mexico for their propaganda,

2726
02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:38,800
Speaker 1: their electoral and political purposes. We are going to call

2727
02:30:38,879 --> 02:30:41,920
Speaker 1: for not voting for this party because it is interventionalist

2728
02:30:42,040 --> 02:30:45,760
Speaker 1: and human, hypocritical and corrupt. I don't know he's wrong there.

2729
02:30:45,840 --> 02:30:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how much ability the president of Mexico

2730
02:30:49,080 --> 02:30:53,280
Speaker 1: has to shift votes in the United States. But you know,

2731
02:30:53,360 --> 02:30:56,160
Speaker 1: it is interesting. You don't often hear a world leader,

2732
02:30:56,200 --> 02:31:00,320
Speaker 1: specific particularly not of the US's largest trading partner, say

2733
02:31:00,320 --> 02:31:02,880
Speaker 1: that they're going to take sides in an election, not

2734
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:05,960
Speaker 1: that openly at least, but you know who never takes

2735
02:31:06,000 --> 02:31:09,520
Speaker 1: sides except for your side, because they're always on your side.

2736
02:31:09,920 --> 02:31:24,720
Speaker 1: The products and services that support this podcast and or program.

2737
02:31:24,840 --> 02:31:25,360
Speaker 4: We're back.

2738
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Speaker 1: So the opposition candidate in next year's Mexican presidential elections

2739
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:32,120
Speaker 1: also made a statement that was it was a little

2740
02:31:32,120 --> 02:31:37,240
Speaker 1: bit more moderated than obradors, but it belittled Trump's comments

2741
02:31:37,280 --> 02:31:41,040
Speaker 1: about using military force on Mexico and stated, rather than threats,

2742
02:31:41,080 --> 02:31:44,280
Speaker 1: we should work in a smart way. So nobody's really

2743
02:31:44,280 --> 02:31:49,240
Speaker 1: happy with this down in Mexico. Not surprising to see why. Meanwhile,

2744
02:31:49,240 --> 02:31:52,879
Speaker 1: in US politics, conservatives are now falling over themselves to

2745
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:56,760
Speaker 1: justify military intervention in Mexico. As soon as Trump adopts this,

2746
02:31:57,280 --> 02:32:00,720
Speaker 1: it now becomes basically the standard Republican line that we

2747
02:32:00,800 --> 02:32:02,920
Speaker 1: need to be sending our special forces guys in to

2748
02:32:02,959 --> 02:32:05,760
Speaker 1: fight the fucking cartels. I'm not going to go over

2749
02:32:05,800 --> 02:32:08,000
Speaker 1: a laundry list of all the dumbfucks who have embraced

2750
02:32:08,040 --> 02:32:09,879
Speaker 1: this crap idea, but I do want to read one

2751
02:32:09,959 --> 02:32:13,800
Speaker 1: quote from an ABC News article quote House Oversight Committee

2752
02:32:13,879 --> 02:32:17,760
Speaker 1: Chairman James Comer, Republican Kentucky, on Tuesdays said that it

2753
02:32:17,879 --> 02:32:21,160
Speaker 1: was a mistake that then President Donald Trump did not

2754
02:32:21,280 --> 02:32:24,400
Speaker 1: bomb meth labs in Mexico after he had reportedly asked

2755
02:32:24,400 --> 02:32:27,880
Speaker 1: his Defense secretary about the possibility in twenty twenty. One

2756
02:32:27,879 --> 02:32:30,080
Speaker 1: of the things we learned post Trump presidency is that

2757
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:32,800
Speaker 1: he had ordered a bombing of a couple fentanyl labs

2758
02:32:32,959 --> 02:32:35,440
Speaker 1: crystal meth labs in Mexico just across the border, and

2759
02:32:35,480 --> 02:32:38,080
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the military didn't do it. Comer said

2760
02:32:38,120 --> 02:32:40,680
Speaker 1: on Fox and Friends, I think that was a mistake.

2761
02:32:41,560 --> 02:32:44,800
Speaker 1: Now I want to discuss for a second how impossible

2762
02:32:44,920 --> 02:32:47,440
Speaker 1: it is for this plan to work. As I noted earlier,

2763
02:32:47,560 --> 02:32:50,519
Speaker 1: there are drug labs in Mexico, quite a few of them,

2764
02:32:50,520 --> 02:32:53,280
Speaker 1: making a variety and not just making, but in many

2765
02:32:53,320 --> 02:32:56,360
Speaker 1: cases taking drugs that come from elsewhere and basically packaging

2766
02:32:56,400 --> 02:32:58,320
Speaker 1: them in a way that they can be sold or smuggled.

2767
02:32:58,760 --> 02:33:01,720
Speaker 1: That is, those facilities certainly exists, but they are not

2768
02:33:02,280 --> 02:33:05,240
Speaker 1: like the large centralized factories that I don't know, like

2769
02:33:05,280 --> 02:33:08,480
Speaker 1: a military rival would use to produce tanks. Right, most

2770
02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:10,960
Speaker 1: of this work, even if it is currently being done

2771
02:33:10,959 --> 02:33:14,280
Speaker 1: in a sizable facility, can be done in smaller facilities

2772
02:33:14,320 --> 02:33:18,039
Speaker 1: and can be moved pretty readily. And again, it's just

2773
02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:21,200
Speaker 1: not very intelligent to think that you can cripple this

2774
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:24,440
Speaker 1: the same way you can cripple an enemy's ability to

2775
02:33:24,440 --> 02:33:28,400
Speaker 1: produce missiles or tanks. And even then that's not easy.

2776
02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:32,600
Speaker 1: We're actually really bad at it. We've repeatedly during wars

2777
02:33:33,040 --> 02:33:36,760
Speaker 1: bombed countries to attempt to destroy their ability to produce

2778
02:33:36,879 --> 02:33:40,840
Speaker 1: munitions and failed to really do that to a substantial extent.

2779
02:33:40,879 --> 02:33:43,440
Speaker 1: And so something like the narcotics industry, which is even

2780
02:33:43,440 --> 02:33:46,640
Speaker 1: more underground, even more hard to identify by nature of

2781
02:33:46,680 --> 02:33:51,640
Speaker 1: what it is. It's a big ask on the surface, right.

2782
02:33:52,400 --> 02:33:54,440
Speaker 1: It's also worth laying out why it's done as hell

2783
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Speaker 1: to conflate drug cartels with ISIS, because a big part

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02:33:57,720 --> 02:34:00,360
Speaker 1: of why Trump, how Trump thinks things are going to go,

2785
02:34:00,480 --> 02:34:04,119
Speaker 1: is like, well, Isis took over Raka, took over Moses,

2786
02:34:04,160 --> 02:34:06,360
Speaker 1: and then we beat them up, you know, we kicked

2787
02:34:06,360 --> 02:34:09,840
Speaker 1: the crap out of them, We destroyed ISIS. That's what

2788
02:34:10,000 --> 02:34:12,200
Speaker 1: he I think, that's literally what he thinks happens, and

2789
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:14,920
Speaker 1: it's certainly what he wants his voters to think happened.

2790
02:34:14,920 --> 02:34:17,640
Speaker 1: But that's not really what happened. Right when the physical

2791
02:34:17,720 --> 02:34:22,040
Speaker 1: caliphate was liberated, ISIS went underground, and they are still

2792
02:34:22,040 --> 02:34:24,160
Speaker 1: there and still have the potential to take a whole

2793
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:27,360
Speaker 1: territory again. ISIS attacks in both Iraq and Syria have

2794
02:34:27,440 --> 02:34:30,560
Speaker 1: been raising steadily for years. There's a lot of reasons

2795
02:34:30,600 --> 02:34:33,000
Speaker 1: for this. Big part of why things have gotten worse

2796
02:34:33,080 --> 02:34:35,680
Speaker 1: in Syria is that the Biden administration has done fuck

2797
02:34:35,720 --> 02:34:39,560
Speaker 1: all to stop the Turkish government from attacking the autonomous

2798
02:34:39,560 --> 02:34:43,680
Speaker 1: region Rojava. Who are the folks who defeated ISIS in Syria?

2799
02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:46,440
Speaker 1: And that has degraded their capacity to keep a fucking

2800
02:34:46,480 --> 02:34:50,800
Speaker 1: lit on thing. So number one, this victory, he claims,

2801
02:34:51,680 --> 02:34:55,080
Speaker 1: wasn't a total victory. And number two, the reason why

2802
02:34:55,160 --> 02:34:58,320
Speaker 1: ISIS was knocked out of you know, Mosl and knocked

2803
02:34:58,320 --> 02:35:01,320
Speaker 1: out of most of their territorial claims fairly short period

2804
02:35:01,400 --> 02:35:04,520
Speaker 1: of time was because of a couple of things. Number One,

2805
02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:08,520
Speaker 1: the US was providing support, but we were not carrying

2806
02:35:08,520 --> 02:35:11,080
Speaker 1: out either operation on our own in both Iraq and Syria.

2807
02:35:11,120 --> 02:35:14,800
Speaker 1: We were supporting other extant militant groups that had a

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02:35:14,879 --> 02:35:18,200
Speaker 1: long history and a decent amount of support in the region,

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02:35:18,320 --> 02:35:20,959
Speaker 1: right And number two, and maybe you can make the

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02:35:20,959 --> 02:35:23,480
Speaker 1: claim that that's the case with the Mexican army, But the

2811
02:35:23,520 --> 02:35:26,680
Speaker 1: other aspect is that Isis were not guys who had

2812
02:35:26,720 --> 02:35:29,680
Speaker 1: been in charge for forever in that region and had

2813
02:35:29,720 --> 02:35:32,320
Speaker 1: deep bases. Most of them were foreigners, and they were

2814
02:35:32,320 --> 02:35:34,840
Speaker 1: foreigners who had very quickly taken urban areas and then

2815
02:35:34,879 --> 02:35:38,120
Speaker 1: started running them like dog shit cartels have existed for

2816
02:35:38,200 --> 02:35:41,199
Speaker 1: a lot longer. They have effectively and do effectively rule

2817
02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:43,520
Speaker 1: large chunks of Mexico and have done so for longer

2818
02:35:43,520 --> 02:35:46,360
Speaker 1: than ISIS has existed. They have deep networks of local

2819
02:35:46,400 --> 02:35:50,480
Speaker 1: ties and in many areas a reputation for providing services

2820
02:35:50,600 --> 02:35:53,120
Speaker 1: better than the Mexican government has done. I don't say

2821
02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:56,560
Speaker 1: this to whitewash how horrible these organizations are, but they

2822
02:35:56,560 --> 02:35:59,760
Speaker 1: are not ISIS, which just came up seemingly out of

2823
02:35:59,840 --> 02:36:02,039
Speaker 1: no where, took over a bunch of cities and then

2824
02:36:02,120 --> 02:36:04,720
Speaker 1: got fucking kicked out, and you know, never had a

2825
02:36:04,800 --> 02:36:07,920
Speaker 1: huge base of support among the populace, particularly in Iraq,

2826
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:11,160
Speaker 1: because again there were just some assholes who showed up

2827
02:36:11,160 --> 02:36:14,160
Speaker 1: one day as opposed to the cartels, which you know,

2828
02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:19,320
Speaker 1: especially once the US starts bombing Mexico and killing Mexican civilians,

2829
02:36:19,320 --> 02:36:23,040
Speaker 1: which will happen anytime we're bombing them. Just the idea,

2830
02:36:23,120 --> 02:36:25,959
Speaker 1: the amount of support it could potentially build for the

2831
02:36:25,959 --> 02:36:30,840
Speaker 1: fucking cartels is substantial. But even beyond that, the idea

2832
02:36:30,840 --> 02:36:33,920
Speaker 1: that you could knock these beat people out easily, they're not.

2833
02:36:34,840 --> 02:36:35,879
Speaker 3: Again, they have a.

2834
02:36:35,800 --> 02:36:39,240
Speaker 1: Deep base of support, a deep history in these areas.

2835
02:36:39,280 --> 02:36:43,840
Speaker 1: They have functioned for a long time, not just running

2836
02:36:43,879 --> 02:36:47,879
Speaker 1: things but also constantly fighting against a military and the

2837
02:36:47,920 --> 02:36:52,640
Speaker 1: government that has a degree of capacity and technology at

2838
02:36:52,680 --> 02:36:55,160
Speaker 1: its back. So the idea that like, you're just going

2839
02:36:55,240 --> 02:36:58,560
Speaker 1: to be able to kick these guys out of whatever. Sonora,

2840
02:36:58,720 --> 02:37:01,480
Speaker 1: the way that you know isis was quote unquote kicked

2841
02:37:01,480 --> 02:37:07,040
Speaker 1: out of Mosel. It's fanciful rights. It's a farce. Now,

2842
02:37:07,160 --> 02:37:10,200
Speaker 1: speaking of farces, I want to talk about kind of

2843
02:37:10,240 --> 02:37:12,600
Speaker 1: the thing that we should all see is the model

2844
02:37:12,640 --> 02:37:15,000
Speaker 1: for what might actually how it would actually work if

2845
02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:18,560
Speaker 1: Trump tried to go into Mexico to take out the cartels.

2846
02:37:18,840 --> 02:37:23,320
Speaker 1: And this brings me back to Afghanistan. Right during Trump's administration,

2847
02:37:23,400 --> 02:37:26,400
Speaker 1: the Department of Defense was empowered by the President to

2848
02:37:26,640 --> 02:37:30,200
Speaker 1: use vastly more force and their attempts to destroy Taliban

2849
02:37:30,320 --> 02:37:33,480
Speaker 1: drug labs. Obviously, Taliban funded a lot of their war

2850
02:37:33,560 --> 02:37:37,480
Speaker 1: effort with the sale of opium, you know, aeroin whatever,

2851
02:37:37,959 --> 02:37:40,520
Speaker 1: and it was you know, believed that if we can

2852
02:37:40,560 --> 02:37:43,840
Speaker 1: cut if we can destroy their ability to grow and

2853
02:37:43,879 --> 02:37:47,280
Speaker 1: process this stuff, we can cut the legs out from

2854
02:37:47,360 --> 02:37:50,360
Speaker 1: underneath the Taliban. And Trump really bought into this and

2855
02:37:50,760 --> 02:37:53,879
Speaker 1: allowed the DoD to accelerate their efforts to do this.

2856
02:37:54,800 --> 02:37:57,600
Speaker 1: Our forces started carrying out a mix of air strikes

2857
02:37:57,680 --> 02:38:01,120
Speaker 1: and special operations attacks on talent Lebhan drug labs in

2858
02:38:01,200 --> 02:38:04,400
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. It is the same plan that they executed

2859
02:38:04,760 --> 02:38:07,280
Speaker 1: that Trump is pushing for the United States to use

2860
02:38:07,320 --> 02:38:11,280
Speaker 1: in Mexico and in Afghanistan. This plan was such an

2861
02:38:11,280 --> 02:38:14,960
Speaker 1: abysmal failure that not only did it not stop drug production,

2862
02:38:15,400 --> 02:38:20,599
Speaker 1: it actually accelerated the production of opiates in fucking Afghanistan

2863
02:38:20,720 --> 02:38:24,080
Speaker 1: at the highest level in recorded history. This program failed

2864
02:38:24,120 --> 02:38:27,720
Speaker 1: so badly that the Pentagon ended their strikes on drug

2865
02:38:27,800 --> 02:38:30,560
Speaker 1: labs in twenty nineteen. They gave up in two years

2866
02:38:30,600 --> 02:38:34,520
Speaker 1: because they didn't couldn't do it. They were bad at it. Now,

2867
02:38:34,520 --> 02:38:36,800
Speaker 1: the fact that this kind of plan that Trump is

2868
02:38:36,840 --> 02:38:40,320
Speaker 1: pushed would undeniably fail to actually destroy the cartels to

2869
02:38:40,360 --> 02:38:43,400
Speaker 1: stop drugs and human trafficking across the border, this does

2870
02:38:43,440 --> 02:38:45,520
Speaker 1: not mean that it would actually be a failure for

2871
02:38:45,560 --> 02:38:48,840
Speaker 1: the reasons that Trump and many other Republicans wanted to fail,

2872
02:38:49,360 --> 02:38:52,440
Speaker 1: which is that declaring war on cartels allows them to

2873
02:38:52,560 --> 02:38:56,080
Speaker 1: justify a major power grap and destroy or in the

2874
02:38:56,120 --> 02:39:00,120
Speaker 1: lives of US citizens they already see as enemies. And

2875
02:39:00,520 --> 02:39:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't mean to say that this is more serious

2876
02:39:03,120 --> 02:39:05,800
Speaker 1: than the lives that will be lost in Mexico. It's

2877
02:39:05,840 --> 02:39:09,440
Speaker 1: certainly not, but this is very serious as well. Last October,

2878
02:39:09,560 --> 02:39:12,840
Speaker 1: a think tank, the Center for Renewing America, published a

2879
02:39:12,879 --> 02:39:15,840
Speaker 1: policy paper with the fun title It's Time to wage

2880
02:39:15,879 --> 02:39:19,879
Speaker 1: War on Transnational Drug Cartels. Paper makes it clear that

2881
02:39:19,959 --> 02:39:23,120
Speaker 1: illegal immigration is just as much a priority as fentannel

2882
02:39:23,320 --> 02:39:26,560
Speaker 1: and carrying out these actions, and in fact, it lists

2883
02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:30,400
Speaker 1: the goals of this planned military policy in Mexico this way.

2884
02:39:30,600 --> 02:39:34,280
Speaker 1: Number one, ending the illegal flow of people trafficking victims

2885
02:39:34,280 --> 02:39:39,040
Speaker 1: and drugs across the southern border. Now, the paper suggests

2886
02:39:39,360 --> 02:39:43,320
Speaker 1: creating a new classification that is similar but different to

2887
02:39:43,760 --> 02:39:48,200
Speaker 1: foreign terrorist organization for the cartels. It lists a series

2888
02:39:48,240 --> 02:39:52,480
Speaker 1: of escalatory stages that Trump's administration should take, starting with

2889
02:39:52,520 --> 02:39:55,760
Speaker 1: putting pressure on the Mexican government to take care of

2890
02:39:55,800 --> 02:39:59,360
Speaker 1: things themselves. And since the Mexican government is not really

2891
02:39:59,400 --> 02:40:02,560
Speaker 1: capable of pre of ending a present of ending either

2892
02:40:02,680 --> 02:40:06,720
Speaker 1: migration or drug cartels, escalation is inevitable. So after this

2893
02:40:06,760 --> 02:40:10,520
Speaker 1: phase fails, phase two is to have the President start

2894
02:40:10,560 --> 02:40:14,080
Speaker 1: deploying military units, initially to interdict the coast, but also

2895
02:40:14,160 --> 02:40:16,880
Speaker 1: to coordinate with the DEA to target and kill cartel

2896
02:40:16,920 --> 02:40:21,000
Speaker 1: figures and destroy their assets. US ports will be closed

2897
02:40:21,120 --> 02:40:24,440
Speaker 1: whenever the number of illegal immigrant apprehensions that the border

2898
02:40:24,520 --> 02:40:27,920
Speaker 1: increases past a certain level. Right, So they are also saying,

2899
02:40:28,400 --> 02:40:31,320
Speaker 1: and again you get the feeling from this paper. While

2900
02:40:31,320 --> 02:40:34,680
Speaker 1: Trump always harps on the drugs and the horrors of fentanyl,

2901
02:40:35,040 --> 02:40:38,000
Speaker 1: is very clear from this paper there is concerned and

2902
02:40:38,080 --> 02:40:40,640
Speaker 1: if not more concerned about the fact that non white

2903
02:40:40,680 --> 02:40:45,480
Speaker 1: people are entering the country. Quote. While costly to the economy,

2904
02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:49,120
Speaker 1: this closing ports would incentivize the Mexican government to crack

2905
02:40:49,160 --> 02:40:53,160
Speaker 1: down on human smugglers, migrant caravans, and cartel trafficking networks.

2906
02:40:53,959 --> 02:40:56,199
Speaker 1: Now into the fourth and final phase of this plan,

2907
02:40:56,360 --> 02:40:59,000
Speaker 1: the US government would basically carry out a full scale

2908
02:40:59,000 --> 02:41:02,000
Speaker 1: invasion of parts of Mexico in order to defeat cartels

2909
02:41:02,040 --> 02:41:04,920
Speaker 1: and secure the border. At no point are there any

2910
02:41:04,959 --> 02:41:07,680
Speaker 1: suggestions made as to how this might be done or

2911
02:41:07,720 --> 02:41:10,360
Speaker 1: why it would be more successful than the attempts that

2912
02:41:10,480 --> 02:41:13,840
Speaker 1: failed in Afghanistan. Instead, they just move right onto the

2913
02:41:13,879 --> 02:41:19,160
Speaker 1: last phase, the victory phase, which includes these suggestions. Congress

2914
02:41:19,160 --> 02:41:22,680
Speaker 1: should enact legislation that creates enhanced penalties for US citizens

2915
02:41:22,680 --> 02:41:26,680
Speaker 1: found guilty of collaborating with the cartels. Punishment should include

2916
02:41:26,680 --> 02:41:29,720
Speaker 1: mandatory minimum federal sentencing of fifteen years in prison for

2917
02:41:29,760 --> 02:41:34,400
Speaker 1: working with cartels labeled as transnational criminal organizations, and mandatory

2918
02:41:34,400 --> 02:41:37,199
Speaker 1: minimum sentencing of twenty five years in prison for working

2919
02:41:37,280 --> 02:41:41,560
Speaker 1: with cartels labeled under the new Cartel statutory guidelines. Congress

2920
02:41:41,560 --> 02:41:45,000
Speaker 1: should enact legislation that defines material and financial supports for

2921
02:41:45,040 --> 02:41:48,800
Speaker 1: the cartels designated under the new statutory framework as tantamount

2922
02:41:48,840 --> 02:41:53,360
Speaker 1: to engaging in terrorism against the United States. This basically means,

2923
02:41:53,879 --> 02:41:57,320
Speaker 1: depending on how this is written, it could mean that

2924
02:41:58,200 --> 02:42:02,039
Speaker 1: doing drugs, possessing drugs, having friends who sell or use

2925
02:42:02,160 --> 02:42:06,000
Speaker 1: drugs could mean that you're committing terrorism by supporting the cartels.

2926
02:42:06,040 --> 02:42:08,920
Speaker 1: It is not impossible that that is how this law,

2927
02:42:09,160 --> 02:42:11,680
Speaker 1: these laws, should they be actually put on the books, ever,

2928
02:42:12,120 --> 02:42:15,120
Speaker 1: should this program be enacted, that's not impossible that that's

2929
02:42:15,200 --> 02:42:17,720
Speaker 1: how it would be interpreted. And why wouldn't they want

2930
02:42:17,760 --> 02:42:19,920
Speaker 1: to write this would allow them to lock up a

2931
02:42:20,040 --> 02:42:22,640
Speaker 1: shitload of people that they see as being on the left.

2932
02:42:22,640 --> 02:42:25,120
Speaker 1: If you think back to Richard Nixon, A big reason

2933
02:42:25,200 --> 02:42:28,840
Speaker 1: why and this is a stated reason why you know

2934
02:42:28,959 --> 02:42:31,920
Speaker 1: the war on marijuana was escalated is that it lets

2935
02:42:31,920 --> 02:42:34,680
Speaker 1: you arrest the fucking hippies and anti war protesters and

2936
02:42:34,760 --> 02:42:37,520
Speaker 1: put them in prison. You know, that is a big

2937
02:42:37,560 --> 02:42:39,840
Speaker 1: part of what a lot of people in Trump's orbit

2938
02:42:40,120 --> 02:42:42,720
Speaker 1: want to do with this. And I say that because

2939
02:42:42,720 --> 02:42:44,720
Speaker 1: the guy who wrote this fucking thing is a dude

2940
02:42:44,800 --> 02:42:49,880
Speaker 1: named kN Kuchinelli. Ken is a major anti left culture warfucker.

2941
02:42:50,320 --> 02:42:52,879
Speaker 1: One of his jobs under Trump was he worked under

2942
02:42:52,959 --> 02:42:56,360
Speaker 1: Chad Wolfe, who was the illegally the director of the

2943
02:42:56,440 --> 02:43:00,720
Speaker 1: DHS during the twenty twenty uprising. In sept Timber of

2944
02:43:00,800 --> 02:43:04,119
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, he ordered the intelligence branch of the Department

2945
02:43:04,160 --> 02:43:08,360
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security to downplay threats by white supremacists and

2946
02:43:08,440 --> 02:43:12,160
Speaker 1: instead focus on the danger of Antifa. Under his watch,

2947
02:43:12,280 --> 02:43:16,200
Speaker 1: DHS also compiled and tel reports on journalists in Portland, Oregon.

2948
02:43:16,959 --> 02:43:19,760
Speaker 1: Might have some issue with this guy personally, and defended

2949
02:43:19,760 --> 02:43:23,600
Speaker 1: the abduction by federal agents of civilians in unmarked vehicles, right,

2950
02:43:23,680 --> 02:43:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, when people were being abducted off the streets

2951
02:43:25,640 --> 02:43:27,560
Speaker 1: of Portland. He was a big fan of that. Ken

2952
02:43:27,600 --> 02:43:30,760
Speaker 1: Guchinelli really likes that idea. He is also essentially a

2953
02:43:30,760 --> 02:43:35,480
Speaker 1: white nationalist himself. In August of twenty nineteen, he announced

2954
02:43:35,480 --> 02:43:39,080
Speaker 1: a revised regulation to go into effect October fifteenth, twenty nineteen,

2955
02:43:39,400 --> 02:43:43,520
Speaker 1: that expanded the public charge requirements for legal immigration made

2956
02:43:43,520 --> 02:43:46,200
Speaker 1: it harder to get green cards and visas if you

2957
02:43:46,240 --> 02:43:50,520
Speaker 1: were poor. Basically, he stopped. He made basically, if we

2958
02:43:50,720 --> 02:43:53,640
Speaker 1: might need something like food stamps, it's harder to get,

2959
02:43:53,720 --> 02:43:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, to immigrate legally to the United States. He

2960
02:43:56,920 --> 02:43:59,320
Speaker 1: was asked, doesn't this kind of contradict, you know, that

2961
02:43:59,400 --> 02:44:02,360
Speaker 1: poem on the Statue of Liberty about welcoming you know,

2962
02:44:02,480 --> 02:44:06,680
Speaker 1: poor and persecuted people. Kucinelli suggested a revision to the

2963
02:44:06,720 --> 02:44:09,520
Speaker 1: poem on the Statute of Liberty, On the Statue of Liberty,

2964
02:44:09,760 --> 02:44:11,959
Speaker 1: give me you're tired and you're poor, who can stand

2965
02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:13,840
Speaker 1: on their own two feet, and who will not become

2966
02:44:13,879 --> 02:44:18,640
Speaker 1: a public charge. So that's that's cool. He also made

2967
02:44:18,680 --> 02:44:22,000
Speaker 1: a point that the poem referred to European immigrants, so

2968
02:44:22,200 --> 02:44:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, fuck those non white people, right, you know,

2969
02:44:25,240 --> 02:44:27,879
Speaker 1: like the poem was never meant for them. He's a

2970
02:44:27,920 --> 02:44:31,360
Speaker 1: fucking nazi, right, He's a white nationalist at the very least,

2971
02:44:31,360 --> 02:44:33,200
Speaker 1: like kN Kuchinelli is the kind of person that a

2972
02:44:33,200 --> 02:44:37,560
Speaker 1: decent society would google what the Romans did with the

2973
02:44:37,600 --> 02:44:40,920
Speaker 1: Tarpeian rocks when they had someone who was a trader

2974
02:44:40,920 --> 02:44:43,199
Speaker 1: to their system, and that's what should happen to Ken Cuccinelli.

2975
02:44:43,280 --> 02:44:46,320
Speaker 1: But instead he's trying to get the US military to

2976
02:44:46,480 --> 02:44:50,920
Speaker 1: invade Mexico. So that's good anyway, that's a Trump's Agenda

2977
02:44:50,959 --> 02:44:54,680
Speaker 1: forty seven policy on the cartels. I hope you all

2978
02:44:54,920 --> 02:45:00,800
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun anyway, by hey, we'll be

2979
02:45:00,840 --> 02:45:04,160
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2980
02:45:04,200 --> 02:45:05,320
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