1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: All I want for Christmas is in America that hasn't 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: been plunged into a deep state hellscape? Is that much 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: too much to ask? I don't know. Maybe maybe I 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: should just ask Santa for paramanola bloos. Maybe that's easier. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: This is the Sean Hannity Show. I am Monica Crowley 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: in today for Sean, So happy to be here and 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: to have you with me. We've got a fantastic show ahead. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss a minute of it. 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: If you'd like to join me, the telephone number here 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: is eight hundred nine four one Sean. That's eight hundred 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: nine four one seven three two six. Also, please check 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: me out on social media on Twitter at Monica Crowley. 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: You can tweet me there during the course of the 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: program at Monica Crowley, also on Facebook at Monica Crowley 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: and y for New York, and on Instagram at Monica 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Crowley Underscore. In fact, we just took a photo before 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: we started of are you preparing for the program? Adjusting 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: the microphone? The lovely and talented, gorgeous, brilliant Linda took 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: the photograph. Linda, what's up? Do you want a paramanolablonox? 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: For Christmas. I want a Paramnola Oblonox every day Christmas. 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Join the club. You can already tell that this program 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: is is different than the kind that Sean. I assure 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: you that when he comes back, it'll be the first 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: thing I ask him. Maybe we should appeal to Sean 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: for those shoes. Linda right, Dear Santa Sewan, Dear Santa Sean, 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: and Linda one. Anyway, it's great to be here, Linda Ethan, 27 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: thank you so much, and big thanks to Sean for 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: having me in today. Merry Christmas to everybody. We have 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: news coming at us from all sides. We've got news 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: on the border. Wall may not be the best in news, 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: but we're going to take that apart. Also today, former 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: National Security Advisor General Michael Flynn was supposed to be 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: sentenced in a courtroom to day, but there was high 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: drama there and the judge emmaed Sullivan actually put off 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: the sentencing for Flynn until March, so ninety more days. 36 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: We are going to unpack all of the latest on 37 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: the biggest and most dangerous scandal in American history. That 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: is not an overstatement. What we are witnessing is the 39 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: biggest and most dangerous scandal in American history. What President 40 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: Obama's administration, including his Department of Justice and his FBI, 41 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: may well have done in using the nation's chief intelligence 42 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: and law enforcement agencies to spy on their domestic political 43 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: enemies makes it the most dangerous scandal in US history. 44 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: Let that just sink in that the surveillance part, the 45 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: targeting part of this entire deep state coup. If this 46 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: all bears out as we suspect based on the evidence 47 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: we've gotten so far, if this all bears out, this 48 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: is the greatest abuse of power, probably ever in US history. 49 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: Since I worked for former President Richard Nixon during the 50 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: last years of his life, I think I've got some 51 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: unique insight into all of this, which I'm going to 52 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: share with you over the course of the program today. 53 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: We're going to break down this whole, this latest sordid 54 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: chapter with our good friend, former federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy. 55 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: He's going to be joining us in a little while. 56 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of really big questions for him. 57 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: We'll also get his insight into what happened with General 58 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Flynn in that courtroom in Washington today. Also, don't look now, 59 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: I hate to scare you. I hate to be a grinch, 60 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: but the twenty twenty presidential election cycle is upon us. 61 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: I know, it seems like the last one just ended, 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: and it seems that way because the Democrats just will 63 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: not let it end. They still cannot believe Missus Clinton 64 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: lost to President Trump. They cannot believe it. They did everything, 65 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: and I mean everything to try to stop it and 66 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: they still failed, and they just can't let it go. 67 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: The Democrats are They're sort of like John Cusack in 68 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: the movie Say Anything. They're standing outside the bedroom window 69 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: of the American people with a boombox begging us to 70 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: take them back. So even though twenty sixteen seems like 71 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: just yesterday, and in a way it was, we're all 72 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: still exhausted from that one, twenty twenty is upon us 73 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: with a pack of about three hundred and twenty five 74 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: possible Democratic candidates. We're going to talk to our good 75 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: friend Doug shown a little later in the show, a 76 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: polster and one of the last remaining moderate Democrats, about 77 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: the Democrat field and the fact that they all think 78 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: that they can beat President Trump, which is amusing. Also 79 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: today we're gonna have a fun chat with pro football 80 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: great Herschel Walker. I met him a couple of years ago. 81 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: I've got big respect for Herschel. He supports the President, 82 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: which of course makes him a target, but he doesn't care. 83 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: He is a smart, tough, patriotic guy who supports the 84 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: US military. I also want to ask him what in 85 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: sam Hill is going on with the NFL, the protests, 86 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: the trouble finding a halftime act. I mean, if they're 87 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: really desperate, I'll do it. I'll do it. I have 88 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 1: a costume ready to go. I can kind of sing 89 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, wouldn't you guys love to 90 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: see me perform with Maroon five during the Super Bowl halftime? Yeah, 91 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: of course you would. Oh. We're going to talk to 92 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: him about all of that. We've got a lot more 93 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: come in straight up again, our number eight hundred and 94 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: nine were one Sewan eight hundred and nine for one seven, three, 95 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: two six. All right. So the first bit of breaking 96 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: news I want to get to and again is this 97 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: was just unfolding in the last couple of hours. Lieutenant 98 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: General Michael Flynn, President Trump's first national security advisor, as 99 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: we know he has been maybe he was patient zero 100 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: in this deep state coup. I mean, we all know 101 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: that the ultimate target is the President of the United States, 102 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Because Trump represents an existential threat to all 103 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: of them. That's why we're seeing all of this go down. 104 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: It's not a giant mystery here, but it is big 105 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: and it's profound. The reason that President Trump and pretty 106 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: much everybody around him has been targeted from day one, 107 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: and by day one, I mean the first day he 108 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: gained real traction in the Republican primaries, that's how long 109 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: this has been going on three years, is because he 110 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: is an existential threat to all of them. Who do 111 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean by all of them? Democratic establishment, Republican establishment, 112 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: media of course, deep state, permanent bureaucratic state, and the 113 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: international order and community such as it is. I worked 114 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: for President Nixon during the last years of his life, 115 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: not when he was in office. No, not when he 116 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: was in office, and he and I used to talk 117 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: about Watergate all the time, and the fact that he 118 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: was targeted from the very beginning of his political career. 119 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan same thing. Anybody's a conservative, it's obviously a target. 120 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: But I have never and I haven't talked to any 121 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: historians who have ever seen anything quite like this. And 122 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: the reason is because Trump is an outsider. He doesn't 123 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: owe them anything, and if he succeeds, it is curtains 124 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: for them. They're a whole corrupt gravy train of power, influence, money, 125 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: The whole ball of wax goes down the train and 126 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: they know it, which is why they literally have been 127 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: pulling out all the stops to try to destroy his 128 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: candidacy and ultimately his presidency. And they're not going to stop. 129 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: They won't stop, and the Russia thing is falling apart. 130 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: There was no collusion, there was no obstruction. That's falling apart. 131 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: They will find something else to try to nail him with. 132 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: And they're basically using the law to legally machine gun 133 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: or a politically machine gun everybody around him, so that 134 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: he's stripped of the people he wants, he's stripped of 135 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: his loyalists, and he's basically, you know, the cheese stands alone. 136 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: I have never seen this kind of monolithic opposition to 137 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: a president in my life. I'm sure you haven't either, 138 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: and it's because Donald Trump is such a unique political 139 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: character that they must destroy him lest they be destroyed. 140 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: That's what all of this is about. So as we 141 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: get into what happened today with General Flynn and how 142 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: he was targeted. Just understand that he, like everybody else 143 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: who has stood up for this president, defended him, voted 144 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: for him, doesn't matter publicly, privately, you name it. You're 145 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: in the cross hears of something much bigger than anything 146 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: we have ever seen before. So Flynn a cog in 147 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: this wheel. You know, he was supposed to be sentenced 148 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: today and he went before the judge Emmett Sullivan, and 149 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: Sullivan decided that he was going to postpone the actual 150 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: sentencing for another ninety days until March because the General 151 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: Flynn is continuing to cooperate with the Muller investigation. He's 152 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: providing details on some of the foreign lobbying done or Turkey, 153 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: which is one of the things that he didn't account 154 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: for when he was being questioned. So that's one of 155 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: the things that they nailed him on. So the sentencing 156 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: now and now you've got another ninety days of this 157 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: and we'll see what ultimately happens. But there was this 158 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: crazy moment in the courtroom where the judge, who by 159 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: all accounts is a very fair judge and believes in 160 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: the rule of law and he's a very effective judge. 161 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: He at one point during the proceedings, he basically asked 162 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: General Flynn if he were a trader. He actually used 163 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: the word treason. He was actually asking the prosecutors if 164 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: they had even considered treason, and the prosecutors sort of 165 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: stumbled in their answer and weren't quite sure how to 166 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: answer it, and ultimately the judge came back and he 167 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: walked back that statement, saying, quote, I made a statement 168 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: about mister Flynn as a foreign agent in the White 169 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: House that was incorrect. The prosecutor said that his Flynn's 170 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: foreign lobbying ended before the Trump administration began. So the 171 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: judge then added, I'm not suggesting Flynn committed treason. Well, 172 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a nice hot you do, right. You 173 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: cannot unsay that someone isn't a treason a trader after 174 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: you've basically already said that, especially in a courtroom, especially 175 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: in a case like this where the entire world is 176 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: watching and listening to every single word and running with it. 177 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: Of course, so social media, I was on Twitter at 178 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: the time. Social media blew up. Oh, the judge calls 179 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: Flynn a trader or asks if he's a trader or 180 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: if he's committed treason, and then the judge comes back 181 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: and corrected himself. So that was a good part of this, 182 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: But I mean, you can't say you're a trader. Whoops, 183 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: my bad. He asked General Flynn several times if he 184 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: wanted to reconsider his guilty plea, which a lot of 185 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: folks have thought that that now means that perhaps the 186 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: judge was open to reconsidering the whole case because of 187 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: what we now know about the way the FBI handled 188 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: the interview, the interrogation of Flynn, the three O two's, 189 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: the documentation seven months later after the interview, and all 190 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: of that. Perhaps the judge, because he did ask Flynn 191 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: multiple times if he wanted to reconsider his guilty play, 192 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: maybe he may have been open to arguments about government misconduct. 193 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: But General Flynn said no, I want to stick with 194 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: my guilty play, and that essentially closed off the option 195 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: for the judge. So then the judge said, Okay, we're 196 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: gonna postpone this another ninety days because the investigation and 197 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: your cooperation with it continues, so we will revisit this 198 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: in ninety days and decide on sentencing or not. Then 199 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: that is a separate and distinct issue from government misconduct 200 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: in this case. So the judge is dealing with this 201 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: discreete sentencing issue for General Flynn, But that is a 202 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: separate issue from James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Struck, who 203 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: was one of the two FBI agents to conduct the 204 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: interview with General Flynn that's now in question. That is 205 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: a separate issue, and we have not heard the end 206 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: of that yet. Eight hundred nine four one seven three 207 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: two six, eight hundred and nine four one Sean. I 208 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: am Monica Crowley in today for Sean Hannity. 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We're 239 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: going to pick it up again as well with Andy 240 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: McCarthy in a couple of minutes, former federal prosecutor, to 241 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: explain to us what exactly went down in this courtroom. 242 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: But just keep in mind as we talk about General Flynn, 243 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: as we talk about the fact that the New York 244 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: Attorney General now is going after the Trump Foundation, all 245 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: of the Trump businesses and so on. The Trump Foundation, 246 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: which was doing great charitable work, has agreed to dissolve 247 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: because they've been under attack as well. Donald Trump, I 248 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: don't think had any idea when he came down that 249 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: escalator in June of twenty fifteen to announce that he 250 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: was running. I don't think he had any idea that 251 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: he was about to become the most hunted political figure 252 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: in recent history. Maybe ever, I think he soon found 253 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: that out, and I think now he definitely knows he 254 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: is the most hunted political figure ever. And it's for 255 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: many reasons. Of course, they hate him personally, but again 256 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: they do not fear his failure, They fear his success. 257 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: General Flynn is part of it. 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That's Juul dot 276 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: com slash switch America now warning this product does contain nicotine, 277 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: and nicotine is addictive. And I am Monica Crowley in 278 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: today for Shawn, so happy to be here. Merry Christmas 279 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: to you. Eight hundred nine for one Shawn, eight hundred 280 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: nine for one, seven three two six. Well, we've got 281 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy on the line to help us break down 282 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: what happened in the courtroom today with General Flynn and 283 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: where we go from here. But before we get to Andy, 284 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: let's listen to what White House Press secret Harry Sarah 285 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 1: Huckabee Sanders had to say about what went down with 286 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: General Flynn when she was asked about it today. Sarah, 287 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: I was in the house at the warehouse last hour 288 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: when the judgement at Sullivan basically said that he was 289 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: disgusted in by Michael Flen's crimes. He said that he 290 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: had to steam or Flynn. That Flynn said that he 291 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: knew that it was illegal to lie to the FBI 292 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: and he was ready to accept responsibility. That is all 293 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: the four agreeing to a delayed sensing. Given that are 294 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: you in a position how or would you like to 295 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: revisit your comments earlier today that the FBI ambush Flinn 296 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: here no, I we still firm logally, look the things 297 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: that may have taken place, Again, that's for the judge 298 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: to make that determination whether he engaged in something inappropriate. 299 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: What we do know that was inappropriate by own self 300 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: admittance of James Comey, is that the FBI broke standard 301 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: protocol in the way that they came in an ambush 302 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: General Flynn, and in the way that they questioned him, 303 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: and in the way that they encouraged him not to 304 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: have White House Counsel's Office present. And we know that 305 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: because James Commy told us that, and he said that 306 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: the very reason that they did it was because the 307 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: only reason that they did it was the Trump administration 308 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: and they thought they could get away with it. Those 309 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: are facts, and certainly there may be other issues there, 310 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: but that we don't have any reason to want to 311 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: walk out back. I can't even believe that this is 312 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: where we are in this whole situation. Keep in mind 313 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: that General Flynn is a retired three star general who 314 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: was known for courage and valor and honor, and of 315 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: course he was forced to resign after serving less than 316 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: a month as the President's National Security adviser. But also 317 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: recall that early on, and for a very long time, 318 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: in fact, to this very day, General Flynn has been 319 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: smeared as a trader, as a Russian colluder, and how 320 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: was somehow compromised by the Russians and or other foreign governments. 321 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: Right now, we're dealing with questions about whether or not 322 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: the FBI and the DOJ engaged in prosecutorial government misconduct 323 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: in the way they've handled this entire case. Joining us 324 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: now is Andy McCarthy. He's a Fox News contributor. He's 325 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: a columnist for National Review. He is also a former 326 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: assistant US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, 327 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: and he joins us now. Andy. Welcome, Monica. Great to 328 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: be with you, and Marry Christmas. Merry Christmas to you two. Okay, 329 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: I cannot think of a better guy to go to 330 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: on these issues. And what went down today? What can 331 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: you explain because we weren't allowed in the courtroom, right, 332 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: no cameras, so we're counting on reporters to accurately tell 333 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: us what these various exchanges meant. But this judge, Emmett 334 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: Sullivan at one point suggested Flynn was a trader and 335 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: then came back later and said, I want to correct 336 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: the record. I didn't mean to suggest that really nailed 337 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Flynn and a couple of things, and then seem to 338 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: turn around and offer General Flynn multiple opportunity is to 339 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: reconsider his guilty play. What does all of this tell you, Well, 340 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: first of all, Monica, Judge Sullivan is kind of notorious 341 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: for being unscripted, and you know, he's he's one of 342 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: these guys who is apt to say anything up there. 343 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: You and I probably can't say anything like we would 344 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 1: normally say if we were just having a chat now 345 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: that we're on the radio here, because neither one of 346 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: us has life tenure, but he but he does, and 347 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: as a result, you know, life ten years a wonderful thing. 348 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: You can kind of get up there and views about 349 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: treason when you're sentencing somebody on a process crime. So 350 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it is actually a useful exchange 351 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: on both sides, because I think there have been narratives 352 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: about Flynn, and neither one of them is entirely accurate. 353 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's one narrative that says that he was railroaded, 354 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: that he didn't actually lie to the FBI, and he 355 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: was extorted into pleading guilty, which is a simplistic way 356 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: of putting his case. And then there's the other side 357 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: of the coin, where as you just pointed out that, 358 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, he's this treasonous agent of Russia who was 359 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: working working with the Kremlin in a conspiracy against his 360 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: own country. This thirty three year decorated combat veteran of 361 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: the United States who's written a book about how to 362 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: deal with enemies of the United States, was somehow conspiring 363 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: with one of the enemies that he wrote the book 364 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: about in order to steal an election and got caught 365 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: in a righteous FBI investigation, which by the way, they 366 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: still haven't explained why they were investigating him in making 367 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: false statements, and neither one of those narratives is true. 368 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: And I think what Judge Sullivan did today by by 369 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: invoking treason, whether he did this wittingly or not, is 370 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: kind of show the smallness of what they actually managed 371 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: to gut to get Flynn convicted on versus what the 372 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: rationale for the Muller investigation was in the first place, 373 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 1: which is this monstrous crime. And at the same time, 374 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: by asking Flynn, well, do you want your pleaback? Do 375 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: you think you were entrapped. Do you think that they 376 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: did something unlawful that has you in these straits? And 377 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: having Flynn say no, no, no, I don't want my 378 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: pleaback saying that basically I want to keep my deal 379 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: because he knows if he breaks the deal that they 380 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: have other charges that they can bring against him. I 381 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: think it kind of smashes the idea that you know, 382 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: this is completely woven out of whole cloth. The truth 383 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: is always someplace in the middle, and the same thing 384 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: as true Monica for the thing that you opened with. 385 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: It's one thing to say that the FBI spoke to Flynn, 386 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: that Flynn knows that you're not supposed to lie to 387 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: the FBI, and he didn't tell them the truth. But 388 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: where Director Comy or former Director Comy and the people 389 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: who were relying on him missed the boat. Is that 390 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: history began before they got in that room with Flynn. 391 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: There's also an issue about how they managed to get 392 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: in the room with Flynn. And there's doubly an issue 393 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: of did they give Flynn the same kind of deferential 394 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: treatment that they gave for example, Hillary Clinton and our 395 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: people right to ask, are there two sisters of justice 396 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: in this country? Depending on what your politics are. Yes, 397 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: and especially if you are associated in any way or 398 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: support President Trump, that puts you in a whole separate category. 399 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Andrew, because when the judge 400 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: asked General Flynn, do you want to revisit your guilty plea? 401 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: He seemed I could be mistaken, but he seemed open 402 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: to perhaps arguments that the government did engage in misconduct 403 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: in the way they handled that interview with him in 404 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: January of twenty seventeen. And then Flynn said no for 405 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: a variety of reasons, as you've laid out. Maybe he 406 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: just wants this whole nightmare to end, and so he's 407 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: just like, let me just take the guilty plea and 408 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: be done with this. But I also wonder because those 409 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: two things are now separate issues, right they handling of Flynn, 410 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: how he's dealing with Muller and so on, and now 411 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: the issue of possible government misconduct, because it seems that 412 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: when call me admitted just a couple of days ago 413 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: that he sent these guys in Struck and another agent 414 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: into the White House, that it was it may in 415 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: fact have been presented as well. We just want to 416 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: ask you a couple of questions regarding this counter intelligence investigation. 417 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: It's no biggie right, it's not a criminal investigation. Therefore 418 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: you don't need a lawyer. That's a separate issue. What 419 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: kind of investigation into that can we expect now, especially 420 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: now that the Democrats control the House as of January fourth, Well, 421 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: you won't get to the last part, which is probably 422 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: the most immediate part. You won't get anything from the House. 423 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: They want to close down these investigations. The Senate can 424 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: continue to pursue them. And what we've heard is that 425 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: the Inspector General is looking into at least some of 426 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 1: the alleged investigative abuse, and Sessions did appoint John Euber, 427 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: the US Attorney of Utah, to look into it. Although 428 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: we haven't heard a lot of what's going on there. 429 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: I should point out that if you haven't heard about investigations, 430 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean that there's nothing happening in them. 431 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to hear about them from the government 432 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: until they're ready to charge people. But I think that 433 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: the point that you bring up Monica is an important one. 434 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: Director Come as I understand his statements, is essentially saying, 435 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, look, it's preposterous to defend Flynn under circumstances 436 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: where he pled guilty to something. And what I would 437 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: counter to that is that there's cases that go on 438 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: in United States courthouses over and the state ones as 439 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: well throughout the country every single day in which somebody 440 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: has committed a crime, or at least has alleged is 441 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: alleged to have committed a crime, and there are hearings 442 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: going on in court about whether the police or the 443 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: FBI abuse their investigator of authority to collect the evidence. 444 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't make the person who committed a crime any 445 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: less guilty, but we always look into the manner in 446 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: which the police agencies complied or failed to comply with 447 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: the rules and the protocols that they're supposed to honor. 448 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: And what the courts will frequently tell us is that 449 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: it's a separate issue whether the police should be disciplined. 450 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: The fact that somebody gets convicted doesn't mean that you 451 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: endorse all of the investigative tactics that were used to 452 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: get to that result. And it very frequently happens that 453 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: even though somebody gets convicted in a case, the police 454 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: agency or the watchdog of the police agency looks at 455 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: what went on in the investigation and says that this 456 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: is either wrong or so wrong that it demands discipline. 457 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: And sometimes people in fact get disciplined as much as 458 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: you know being fired. What happens in cases is very 459 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: often you have somebody who's a really bad guy. I'm 460 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: not talking about General Flynn here, I'm just talking about 461 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: in general, you have somebody who's a really bad guy 462 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: who's committed a crime, and you have police who who 463 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: have used tactics that are very close to the line, 464 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: to the point of being over the line sometimes, and 465 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: you have to make a decision about do we vindicate 466 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: the law and prosecute the guy successfully for whatever it 467 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: is that he's done, or do we let the guy 468 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: off because we're so we hold in such disfavor the 469 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,239 Speaker 1: way the police went about their jobs. And those are 470 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: very difficult decisions that go on all the time. So 471 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: it's a long winded way of saying the fact that 472 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 1: somebody's guilty of something doesn't mean that we bless the 473 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: police tactics that we use to get that result right. Last, 474 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: for you, Andy, the FBI three O two's and that's 475 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: a department lingo for the documentation of interviews done by 476 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: the FBI. I just heard from a very good source 477 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: of mine on Capitol Hill that they consider the FBI 478 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: shenanigans with the Flynn three O two's, the seven month delay, 479 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: the fact that we didn't see the original three O 480 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: two until Judge Sullivan demanded it a couple of days ago, 481 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: and that the three O two that they did produce 482 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: to the court was actually a three O two of 483 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: interviewing Struck about his interview with General Flynn. The whole 484 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: three o two shenanigans. I was just told by my 485 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: source on Capitol Hill that they consider those shenanigans to 486 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: be quote criminal A do you and secondly, do you 487 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: know the incoming Attorney General, William Barr? And what do 488 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: you expect he might do with regard to all of this? Well, 489 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: let me let me separate those two things. The answer 490 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: to your second question is, I know Bill Barr very well. 491 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: I think very highly of him. What he'll say about 492 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: all of this, I hope is along the lines of 493 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: what I'm about to say about all of it, which is, 494 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: if you don't have perfect information, well we never have 495 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: perfect information, but if you don't have a lot more 496 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: information than what we have At the moment, you wouldn't 497 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: want to make any bold pronouncement about how this is 498 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: all going to go. For example, you know, I know 499 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: that they gave the three two of the Struck interview, 500 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: which was the first one that became publicly available. They 501 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: gave that monica to the court in conjunction with other 502 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: documents that were sealed, and at the moment we don't know, 503 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: at least I don't know whether what Judge Sullivan was 504 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: given included the original three O two and we simply 505 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: just didn't get that until later in the process. So, 506 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm as disturbed about this as anyone. I 507 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: think that, you know, this is something that needs to 508 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: be examined, but I'm not prepared to say, you know, 509 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: what we should think of it all Yet. I still 510 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: think we're in the very early stages of this. I do. 511 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: I think we've got the Muller investigation, and then I 512 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: think we've got the investigation of the investigation. A lot 513 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: more to come. Thank you to Andy McCarthy, former federal 514 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: prosecutor and our good friend. I am Monica Crowley in 515 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: today for Sean Hannity Back in a Flash. I am 516 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: Monica Crowley, in today for Sean eight hundred nine four 517 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: one seven three two six, eight hundred and nine four 518 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: one Sean. At the start of the new hour, we 519 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: are going to continue this conversation about the deep state 520 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: rolling coup against this president. Michael Flynn just being you know, 521 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: patient zero in many ways. The latest on that, also 522 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: news on the border roll. We've got to deal with that, 523 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: and I promise I will take a lot of your 524 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: phone calls, so again, if you want to join, it's 525 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: eight hundred and nine for one Sean. I am Monica Crowley, 526 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: Freedom Baby, or what's left of it. Anyway, this is 527 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show. I am Monica Crowley in today 528 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: for Sean. Really happy to be here in Merry Christmas 529 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: to everybody. We've got a great two hours left. We're 530 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: gonna talk to Doug shown here in just a little 531 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: bit about the sprawling Democratic presidential field, which is like 532 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: a never ending horizon. All it's all full of people 533 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: who think that they can do this, which is fine 534 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: except when that extends to thinking that they can actually 535 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: beat Donald Trump. Look, anything can happen, but not a 536 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: single Democrat, with the exception of missus Clinton, actually knows 537 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: what it is to run against Donald Trump, to which 538 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: I say good luck to you. You can find me 539 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Monica Crowley, on Facebook at Monica Crowley 540 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: NY for New York, and on Instagram at Monica Crowley Underscore. 541 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: My good friend, brilliant and talented Linda took a shot 542 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: of me right before we went live on the air, 543 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: preparing in Sean's spacious studio. But of course Sean being 544 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: a dude, it's always freezing in here, and I was fine. 545 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: When we started the program, Linda was all like, hey, girl, 546 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: I know, you know we're always cold. You know women 547 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: are always cold, right, I mean, I'm sure we're going 548 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: to get five hundred calls on this from I don't listen. 549 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to make assumptions about people's sweating. I 550 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 1: just was like, listen, you're a beautiful, tiny little woman. 551 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's like a freaking freezer in here. Well, 552 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: you're very sweet. And I remember last time I was 553 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: in here. I think it was like leading up to 554 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: Memorial Day when I was in for Sean and it 555 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: was like broiling at there. And then I walk in 556 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: the studio. I could see my breath. It was like icicles. 557 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: You have to understanding Sean is a ninja, but at 558 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: all times we have to keep it very cold there 559 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: because he's always, you know, at any moment, he could 560 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: break into like a move you know, yeah, I know, 561 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: and he's very talented at that. However, I am not 562 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: a ninja, so therefore I need the studio a little 563 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: bit warmer. So Linda was like when I first sat down, 564 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: she was like, so, dude, it's really cold in here. 565 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm fine. I'm in a like a 566 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: cute little flannel shirt. I'm good. Everything's good. And now 567 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: at one hour in I'm like looking at Linda like, 568 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: I can't feel my index fingered Monica spattering on the air. 569 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: Stop at your teeth are making no, I know? All right, 570 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: So that being said, we are still waiting for Manola blonnack. 571 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: So okay, moving on, moving on on Twitter at Monica 572 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: Crowley and Instagram at Monica Crowley. Underscore. So we are 573 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: going to talk to Doug shown a little bit later 574 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: on in the show about the Democratic field and how 575 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: all these people think that they can take on Trump, 576 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: which be my guest. Also a little later we're going 577 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: to talk to Herschel Walker, who is of course a 578 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: football legend and I've gotten to know him a little 579 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: bit of the last couple of years. He is an amazing, 580 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: amazing guy. So we will talk to him about what's 581 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: going on with the NFL and his new role for 582 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: President Trump, which is also really interesting. Also, we've got 583 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: big news about the wall on the southern border, which 584 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: I want to take up here in just a little bit, 585 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: and we are going to take your phone calls first, though, 586 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: I want to revisit this whole situation with General Flynn 587 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: and the bigger picture that it points to, this whole dark, 588 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: deep state rolling coup against this president and anybody who 589 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: dares to want to serve not just this president, but 590 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: serve their country. I think a lot of people who 591 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: were very excited about President Trump, especially at the beginning 592 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: during the campaign in the early stages of his presidency, 593 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: wanted to serve a president they believed in, like General Flynn, 594 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: wanted to serve their country of course, and took the opportunities. 595 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: And now what we have seen is because Donald Trump 596 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: represents an existential threat to all of the powers that be, 597 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: he and all of his people are now being essentially 598 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: legally and politically rhetorically machine gunned to the point where 599 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: either like General Flynn, had to sell his house to 600 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: pay his legal bills upwards of maybe a million dollars disgrace. 601 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: Other people who have served in the cabinet and in 602 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: other capacities just get run off the rails. This is 603 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: something so much bigger. And when I talk about how 604 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: this is the most dangerous scandal in US history, I 605 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: used to think that President Obama his administration's use of 606 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: the IRS to target conservatives and religious folks and others 607 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: who dissented with the socialist track he had the country on. 608 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: I used to think that that was the most dangerous scandal. 609 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: The government surveillance scandals of the Obama years. I used 610 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: to think that they were incredibly dangerous, and all of 611 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: that is true, but they don't hold a candle to 612 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: what we are experiencing and living through right now. This 613 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: is based on what we and we probably just know 614 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: a fraction of what actually has gone down here. This 615 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: is the greatest abuse of power that I think the 616 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: country has ever seen because it involves the government use 617 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: of one of the most fearsome arms of the federal government, 618 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, which is supposed to be balanced 619 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: and blind, with the law applied evenly across the board 620 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: to everyone. Because that fearsome government agency, the DOJ and 621 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: of course the FBI, because they were used for political 622 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 1: targeting purposes. That makes Watergate look like Tiddley Winks. Remember, 623 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: they went after President Nixon, for whom I worked during 624 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: the last years of his life. He and I spent 625 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about Watergate and his role 626 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: in it, in the cover up and so on, his 627 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: taking of responsibility for his role in it. But they 628 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: went after Nixon for involvement in the cover up of 629 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: the break in at the DNC right, And yes, of 630 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: course President Nixon made mistakes. But this what we are 631 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: seeing now, This, this is a whole other level. This 632 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: is the coordinated, premeditated, systematic weaponization of the DOJ and 633 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: the FBI leadership, not the rank and file, the leadership 634 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: to target a presidential candidate, his team, and ultimately his presidency. 635 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: And by the way, this is an ongoing process. This 636 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: isn't something that sort of ended a couple of months 637 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: in or something. This is an ongoing process. James Comey, 638 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: the former director of the FBI, who President Trump was 639 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: one percent correct in firing in fact, should have fired 640 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: the first day. His only error was in waiting a 641 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: couple of months to fire him. James Comey continues to 642 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: make the scene in front of Congress, in front of 643 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: the media, trying to deflect what his responsibility was in 644 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: all of this. Listen to this exchange with the great 645 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: Catherine Harriage, a fantastic national security reporter for Fox News. 646 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: My understanding is that when you shared your memos with 647 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: your legal team, that there was a follow up for 648 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: a classified containment operation by the Bureau. Was there a 649 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: skill of classified information when you shared those memos. Yeah, 650 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna talk about something like that. That's important 651 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: to talk about whether classified information was whin I'm not 652 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: going to talk about it one way or another. I'm 653 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: not going to talk about it one way or the other. 654 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: First of all, his dismissive attitude toward Catherine Herridge, I 655 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: guess because she works for Fox News, which she also 656 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: slammed a couple of days ago. Right put his nose 657 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: in the air about Fox News. Yeah, because Fox News 658 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: is pretty much the only place holding the guy accountable 659 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: and all of his unethical, if not straight up illegal behavior. 660 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: But also, you know Katherine Herridge is she's a really 661 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: smart She's been doing this a long time. She's a 662 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: really smart, fierce reporter. She's also a woman. So you 663 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: know what, James Komi, I don't think you treated her 664 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: very well in the me too era. You know, you 665 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: might want to be a little bit more careful in 666 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: answering Katherine Herridge's great questions. Let me say this about 667 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: James Komi. Also, Komy is a master of projection. What 668 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: do I mean by that? Projection is accusing someone of 669 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: what you yourself are guilty of. Leftists are great at 670 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: this anyway, yas her Area Fat was great at accusing 671 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: the Israelis of what he himself was doing. Leftists just 672 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: generally are very good at this, and they do it 673 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: with a straight face all the freaking time. James Coomey 674 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: is a master of projection. So he has been constantly 675 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: accusing President Trump and his team of what he and 676 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: his team have been guilty of, namely, lying, breaking the law, corruption, 677 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: being uninterested in the truth, all of those things said, 678 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: he's trying to smear President Trump and President Trump's team 679 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: with he and his team. McCabe struck page or the 680 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: whole dirty lot of them. He and they are guilty 681 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: of all of those things. But do you see the 682 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: little rhetorical jiu jitsu that they do. They turn it, 683 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: they deflected onto their target. And he's been doing this 684 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: now for a long time. He comes out with a 685 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: straight face. I mean, you know, the the guy was 686 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: FBI director, He's been trained in this kind of stuff. 687 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: It's like John Brennan as head of the CIA, same thing. 688 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: John Brennan will take to his Twitter and blast Trump 689 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: for all of these things. Well, hold up the mirror, right, 690 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: James Comey is the personification of the deep state, even 691 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: the way he dresses, the way he carries himself with 692 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: the suit, and and he's like what six foot ten 693 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: or some like crazy height. He is the personification of 694 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: the deep state. But I will also say this about 695 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: James COMI call me like Brennan and a lot of 696 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: these professionals from the deep state are way too slick 697 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: to be caught. Now, maybe because we have a President 698 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: Trump and not a President Clinton, we might actually see 699 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: the truth about what he and his cohorts actually did. 700 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: But I do know that they have always been extremely careful, 701 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: careful in their total ruthlessness. Komy is so slick that 702 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: the idea that they're leaving breadcrumbs where they could be 703 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: caught doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. 704 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: He is totally ruthless. He, like the rest of the 705 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: operators in the Deep state, self elected, self elected, Right, 706 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: they elect themselves the saviors of the Republic. Oh well, 707 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: I see Donald Trump. Oh what a vulgarian buffoon. Doesn't 708 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 1: know what he's doing. The country is not safe. Therefore, 709 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: I will take it upon myself to save the nation 710 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 1: by undermining this president, self elected, surrounded by acolytes and flunkeys. Again, 711 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: all the stuff that they accused Donald Trump of doing 712 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: and being unaccountable. Everybody in the Deep state, unaccountable and 713 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: generally untouchable unless there's one condition here, unless call me 714 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: and his deep state cohorts are ambushed by history. What 715 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: do I mean by that? I mean the election in 716 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: November of twenty sixteen. There is no way that they 717 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: expected Donald Trump to pull the whole thing off. I 718 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: did from day one. I said it on Fox News 719 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: a couple of days after he came down the escalator. 720 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: He's going to pull the whole thing off. They never 721 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: expected that they should have been listening to me. Hello, 722 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: smart people, listen to Monica. They should have been listening 723 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: to me, because they would have known that Donald Trump 724 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: was going to pull the whole thing off. This is 725 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: where Trump comes in. Remember during the campaign when they 726 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,760 Speaker 1: started this whole deep state hoax trying to tar Donald 727 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: Trump for being a Russian colluiter and in bed with 728 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: Poutin and the Russians and then Flynn and everybody else. Well, 729 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 1: that started during the campaign. And the reason that we're 730 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of this now evidence and a lot 731 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: of these facts now just starting to come to light 732 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: is because they never expected this stuff to come to light, 733 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: and they were very sloppy. They were very sloppy. They 734 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: thought missus Clint would be president. Everything would go in 735 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: the shredder, lost to history forever. Guess what that night 736 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 1: in November of twenty sixteen, they had a holy crap moment. 737 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: And after that then it went into phase two during 738 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: the transition, and now it's still in phase three where 739 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: they are trying to do two things. One, destroy the 740 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: president because they hate and fear him and they fear 741 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: his success. And number two, to cover up their own 742 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: quote dirty deeds that's it makes complete sense. Eight hundred 743 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: nine four one sewn eight four one excuse me eight 744 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: hundred nine four one seven to three two six. I 745 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: am Monica Crowley on Twitter at Monica Crowley, on Facebook 746 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: at Monica Crowley Ny, and on Instagram with the pretty 747 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: pictures at Monica Crowley underscore. What's the name of your 748 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: book What the Bleep Just Happened? Which I wrote about 749 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: the first Obama term, but can also apply to the 750 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: deep state today, So please go check it out. Thanks, Lynde. 751 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: I am Monica Crowley in today for Sean, and I'm 752 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: laughing but I can't tell you why because Linda and 753 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: I are sharing a little dirty inside joke. No, Linda, 754 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: you are a bad influence on me. Yeah, Sean says 755 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: that all the time. Eight hundred nine four one Sean 756 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: eight hundred nine four one seven three two six. Let's 757 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: hit the phone straight away and say hi to Monty 758 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:42,280 Speaker 1: listening in Idaho. Hi, Mounty, Hello, Hi, what's on your mind? Hi? Well, 759 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: I just was having a comment about Flynn and the 760 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: judge decision to put this off for a while. I 761 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: thought possibly maybe what the judge was doing is given 762 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: himself more time to collect more information, but it hasn't 763 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: been turned over to him. You know, that's an interesting thought, 764 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people Monty, thank you 765 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: for the call. I know a lot of people have 766 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: been discussing that, and it's entirely possible that they sprung 767 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: this on him at the last minute about the three 768 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: zero twos and different things. So we will see. The 769 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: game is not over yet. I am Monica Crowley on 770 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: Twitter at Monica Crowley and on Instagram at Monica Crowley 771 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: Underscore back in a flash Welcome back. I am Monica 772 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: Crowley in today for Sean. Great to have you on board. 773 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing part of your day with me. 774 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: Our telephone number eight hundred nine four one seven three 775 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: two six it's eight hundred nine four one Sean. Before 776 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: we get to my good friend Doug shown to talk 777 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: about the democratic field, I just want to make note 778 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 1: that at the top of the program I wished for 779 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: from Santa this year, I basically have one thing on 780 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,959 Speaker 1: my two things. One to get rid of this deep 781 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: state nightmare that we're all going through and allow the 782 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: president to actually govern the way we all know he 783 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: can without this burden. And my wish number two is 784 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: a paramanolos. So I've got a big wish and then 785 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: a slightly less big I think I need to identify 786 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: which of those is the big one, because you know, 787 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: I've spoken just like a good girlfriend. You know, shoes 788 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: for girls are very important. I just want to point 789 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: out that. Early on in the program, we had a 790 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: caller named Greg from Chattanooga who told Linda that he 791 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: wanted to buy us those shoes. In fact, Linda correct 792 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, but he said, I will buy 793 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: you two shoes. He said, Greg, my dream man, wherever 794 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: you are and Tennessee. He said, listen, I heard you 795 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: in Monica talking about shoes, and I just wanted you 796 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: to know that I will buy you those shoes and 797 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: anyone who wants to talk about Mueller and Flynn And 798 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: I said, listen, you had me at shoes. Please listen 799 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: no more. I mean, you know, when you start talking 800 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: about really nice shoes to women, everything else just falls away, 801 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: like we don't we tune you out after shoes. So 802 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: Greg from Chattanoo, guy, if you were still listening, Colinda 803 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: back Alice, because we do want to take you up 804 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: on that offer of buying us. How many pairs ten 805 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: pairs each. I think it was feen. Oh yeah, No, 806 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: I thought I heard him say stuttered a little bit, 807 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 1: and then I realized he was saying, you try to 808 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: say two, and I was like, fifteen, right, I heard 809 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 1: you correct. Thank you, Greg. Well, we will take it 810 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 1: and you will make these two New York girls very happy. Greg. 811 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: So once again, Greg and Shattanooga eight hundred nine four 812 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: one sean, Um, you know who actually might buy us 813 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: those shoes. Linda is our next guest, Doug sew Nottlemanica. 814 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: Very subtle. Well, if you hear any noise in the background, 815 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: it's I'm, you know, in the Milano Milano Blannice, having 816 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: just come from Jimmy Choose, where I found nothing of 817 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: use for either one of you. But I love this man. 818 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: You knew Jimmy Choo. We didn't even have to tell him. No, 819 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,439 Speaker 1: he knows and and and I do have to ask 820 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: you both one serious question before we get started. If 821 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: a man showed up with a diamond necklace, would that 822 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 1: be better than shoes? No? Okay, I'm gonna say yes, 823 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna have to school Linda in this off 824 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: the air. You always go for the more valuable Linda, 825 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: and then we can negotiate down to the shoes after 826 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 1: you have the diamonds around. Not negotiate down. Let's get 827 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: the necklace and then we go get the shoes. I'll 828 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: get the necklace. I'll get the necklace and wear it 829 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: while I'm buying the shoes. Do you see why I act? 830 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: Do you see why I wanted to book Doug shown 831 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: on the program Memory Christmas? See why Doug is such 832 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: a dear valued friend of mine. By the way, for 833 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: everybody else who's not in on the joke, Doug is 834 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: one of the nation's premiere posters. He is a tough 835 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: political strategist and consultant, and I daresay one of the 836 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: last remaining moderate Democrats in America, the last remaining one, 837 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: because there are not many of us left. Well, you're 838 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: getting pretty lonely in your own party. I mean, what 839 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: is going on? This is now the party of Barack Obama, right, 840 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: the radical left? Well, I think it may be the 841 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: party of Bernie Sanders or a Kaisio Cortez. Now, well, 842 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,720 Speaker 1: so how does a moderate like you continue to survive 843 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: in this party? And do you think that the party 844 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: has any hope of sort of regaining its sea legs 845 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 1: back toward being a center left party rather than a 846 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: radical left party. Well, I was going to say, the 847 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: best thing the Democrats have going for them is the Republicans. 848 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: I think had the Republicans governed more effectively, the midterms 849 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: would have been a much more successful endeavor at the 850 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: congressional level than they were. But as to your question, 851 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: I really don't see any hope. I mean, there are 852 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: individual members of Congress who have to be moderates to 853 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: get elected, but this is a party that believes in 854 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: redistribution of wealth, guaranteed annual income, Medicare for all, and 855 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: that's the problem. And they also, i mean, just separate 856 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: and distinct from the ideology you just laid out. They're 857 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: all so now obsessed with an investigative feeding frenzy, which 858 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: we will see once the Democrats take control of the 859 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: House in a couple of well, I guess two short 860 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: weeks now. They are likely to overreach, right, Doug. I mean, 861 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,919 Speaker 1: missus Pelosi is trying to restrain some of her members here, 862 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: but I would think that they are going to that 863 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: They're not going to be able to stop themselves or 864 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 1: help themselves, and that they will move to investigate and 865 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: impeach this president. Am I wrong if I think there's 866 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: a substantial likeli or that we need to see what 867 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 1: Robert Muller comes out with. But I also believe, Monica, 868 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: if you take what happened today, which to summarize for 869 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: the listeners, the President has apparently backed off the six 870 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: billion for the law. He said he'll take the Democratic 871 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: offer of one point six billion for border security, and 872 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:59,879 Speaker 1: the Democrats apparently said nope to that one. So I'm 873 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm sort of bufuttled. You know, we may have a 874 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:11,879 Speaker 1: government shutdown over completely nothing that would be profoundly misguided 875 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: what we're going to talk about the wall here in 876 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: a little bit. But I did want to turn with 877 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,320 Speaker 1: you to the possible democratic field, because, yeah, the Democrats 878 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: are going to control the House, and they're going to 879 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: go on this investigative like going hog wild with investigations 880 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: which are going to lead legislative lead to paralysis, and 881 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 1: anything that they might pass will surely die in the 882 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: Senate with an expanded Republican majority there. But I'm interested 883 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: in looking at twenty twenty, and I know it's absurdly 884 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: early and it means nothing but I do note this 885 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: week that former Vice President Joe Biden is already trying 886 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: to clear the field by hooking up with Robert Francis 887 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: Beto O'Rourke out of Texas. So let's talk about them first. 888 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: First of all, do you think Biden is running? What 889 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: are his chances at his rather advanced age. Yes, First, 890 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: I think he probably will run. My experiences, when people 891 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,879 Speaker 1: are leading the polls as Biden is, they almost never 892 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: say no. So I think he will run. And I 893 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: think it's way too early to talk about who he'll 894 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 1: run with. But my guess is he and every other 895 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 1: Democrat will run with both a woman and most likely 896 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 1: a woman of color. You know, that's a really interesting point, 897 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,879 Speaker 1: and Doug, you and I have talked about this. I've 898 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: been saying this a long time too, I think, and 899 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: please correct me if you disagree, but I think that 900 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: the lesson that the Democrats took in two thousand and 901 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 1: eight with Barack Omama and then in twenty sixteen with 902 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: Missus Clinton is that woman is not enough for them. 903 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: That if they're going to inspire, particularly their minority constituents 904 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 1: to come out in the numbers that got Obama elected 905 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,240 Speaker 1: and then really elected, you can't simply have a woman. 906 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 1: You've got to have either a minority woman or a 907 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: minority man at the top of the ticket. I think 908 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,760 Speaker 1: this is the way that they are calculating this going forward. 909 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 1: So number one, do you agree with that? And then 910 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: number two, what does that mean for Joe Biden? A 911 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: better Aroorica Terry mccauliffe, Well, I think it means that 912 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: we will have on the ticket, regardless of whether it's Biden. 913 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,479 Speaker 1: Let's hypothetically say it isn't for a second that you'll 914 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 1: have a woman, and you'll have a person of color, 915 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: and potentially, and I think indeed likely, as I suggested, 916 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 1: a woman of color, and I think that that's probably 917 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 1: a good thing for the party in terms of inclusivity, 918 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: but it is not a good thing for Robert Francis 919 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,919 Speaker 1: Peto Rock. So it would be good news for our 920 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 1: California Senator Kamala Harris, right, yeah, I think I think, 921 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 1: regardless of how she does in the primaries, and I 922 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 1: assume she'll run and be respectable at the very least, 923 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be pretty tough for the 924 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: Democrats to keep her off a ticket. What about let's 925 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 1: talk about a couple of other US senators, Corey Booker, 926 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. What do you make of 927 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 1: their chances? Well, I'd say Booker did not distinguish himself 928 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: during the Kavanaugh hearings, and I don't think he'll be 929 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: a particularly strong candidate. Bernie, I think is a potentially 930 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: strong candidate. He's running ten fifteen points behind Biden, but 931 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: certainly he has enthusiasm and a constituency. As to Elizabeth 932 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: Warren Monica, you know, the whole notion of whether she 933 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: is indeed a Native American has so clouded things for that. 934 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,439 Speaker 1: With Bernie in the race, it's going to be hard 935 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: for me to see her getting traction. Her time, I 936 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 1: really believe was twenty sixteen, and she chose for her 937 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: own reasons not to run. You know, a couple of 938 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: days ago she gave a speech in which she said, 939 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 1: I am not a woman of color. So I guess 940 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: she was trying to put that whole controversy to rest. 941 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: But in this day and age where everything moves so fast, 942 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: and especially with social media, once you make a mistake 943 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: or an error like that is very difficult to recover from. Right. Well, 944 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: that's that's my attitude, and certainly, you know, you just 945 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 1: play that in a commercial, her saying I'm a Native American, 946 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm not a person of color. You sort of say, well, 947 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 1: what are you? And maybe that's not fair, but that 948 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 1: is how politics is played nowadays. It'll be very interesting 949 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 1: to see if Bernie Sanders can recapture the magic. You know, 950 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: we talk about politicians missing their moment when you know 951 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,000 Speaker 1: it should have run. Whether you know, as Governor Chris 952 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: Christie a couple of years ago, I'm chose not to run, 953 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: and Elizabeth Warren or you name it. Michael Bloomberg, I 954 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 1: know you've done some consulting for him in the past. 955 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: I know he obviously former mayor of New York City, 956 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,919 Speaker 1: but also with presidential ambitions. Do you think he's going 957 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: to take it on this time. I don't know, and 958 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he knows. I think he is in 959 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 1: the process of taking soundings and making a decision whether 960 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: the party he just joined, the Democratic Party, will be 961 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 1: receptive to a guy who you know, obviously I'm biased, 962 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: but he's got a great record as a mayor, as 963 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: a business leader, as an environmental leader. I think you'd 964 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: be a great candidate. Whether he runs, I think is 965 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: still undetermined. Do you think he would like to be president? 966 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 1: Most people I have seen in political life Monica, from 967 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 1: the lowliest member of a city council on up, wants 968 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: to people who would like to be president or actually 969 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 1: believes that they should. It be impressive Missus Clinton, speaking 970 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 1: of whom, Oh, Missus Clinton. Do you think she is 971 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 1: going to run again? I think if she sees an opportunity, 972 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: an opening, I think she would. I think at this point, 973 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 1: given how her speaking to her has gone, she's not 974 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: going to be received too well. But hope springs eternal. 975 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about the Clinton dynamic too, is 976 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: her husband, Bill, for whom you worked in the nineteen 977 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: nineties and did polling four in the Me Too era. 978 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 1: It's amazing that the guy is still welcomed in polite society, 979 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 1: or at least some polite society. But I also think 980 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: that it's the case that in the Me Too era, 981 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, having faced serious, incredible allegations of rape, sexual assault, 982 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 1: sexual harassment, and so on, that it's likely we will 983 01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: never regardless of whether Missus Clinton runs again, you will 984 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: never see Bill Clinton on a campaign trail again. Am 985 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: I right? I think I think you're exactly right. I 986 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:12,960 Speaker 1: think given the allegations, given the A and E documentary 987 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,439 Speaker 1: on the Paula Jones case and on the Lynskey case, 988 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't think Bill Clinton has the frankly credibility to 989 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,919 Speaker 1: go back out on the trail and be well received. Well, 990 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 1: it took forty years, but we're finally done with him. 991 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about her, but Hope Springs, Hope 992 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: Springs eternal, dug. You know, when you think back to 993 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, nobody saw Barack Obama coming. He 994 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 1: was a state senator, you know, a little known US 995 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 1: senator for less than two years. When he chose to run, 996 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 1: nobody saw Donald Trump coming in twenty sixteen, is there 997 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: anybody not on the radar screen on the Democratic side, 998 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: a business leader, an entertainer, somebody that we are not 999 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 1: thinking about, someone out of the box that you think 1000 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 1: might actually make a run for the presidency or might 1001 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: even be thinking about it. Well, there's only one person 1002 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: who I believe could actually clear the field, and that 1003 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 1: woman is Michelle Obama. And I believe if she threw 1004 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 1: her hat in the ring, she would be the very 1005 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: veritable superstar that you have been alluding to. I agree 1006 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 1: with you. I think number one, she's a woman. Number two, 1007 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 1: she's a minority woman. Number three, she's got the Obama name. 1008 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: Number four, she's very very intelligent. Number five, she's got 1009 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: the political experience. Number six. She is great at retail politics. 1010 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: So she's probably the one that scares me the most. 1011 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if she's going to do it, but 1012 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: we shall see. Doug. Thank you so much for your expertise. 1013 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: So Monica, okay, I'm going to charge them to you, 1014 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: Doug shown. Let's get rid of him before you can, 1015 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, fight us on that. Okay, Doug Shown, my 1016 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: very good friend. Thank you so much. I am Monica 1017 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Crowley in Today for Sean on Twitter at Monica Crowley, 1018 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: on Facebook at Monica Crowley NY for New York and 1019 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram with all the pretty pictures at Monica Crowley Underscore. 1020 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 1: When we come back, we have a lot to talk 1021 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: about on the border wall. We're gonna take your phone 1022 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 1: calls at eight hundred nine four one Sean. Also, we're 1023 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: going to speak with the football grade, herschel Walker about 1024 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: what he's doing for the president and what the hey 1025 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: is going on with the NFL. We got a jam 1026 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Pack Hour coming up. Do not go anywhere. I'm Monica 1027 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 1: Crowley in for Sean. I am Monica Crowley in today 1028 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 1: for Sean. Merry Christmas to you. We've just got about 1029 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: a week to go before the big day. I hope 1030 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 1: you're all shopped out. I am done. I am proud 1031 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: to say done, and I'm looking forward to a pair 1032 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: of those shoes under the tree. I am Monica Crowley. 1033 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Monica Crowley, on 1034 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Facebook at Monica Crowley n Y for New York, and 1035 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 1: on Instagram at Monaka Crowley Underscore. So please check me 1036 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 1: out on social media. You can also tweet me here 1037 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 1: during this last hour of the program at Monika Crowley 1038 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 1: jam Packed Final Hour. Here we are a little bit later, 1039 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Herschel Walker, who is of 1040 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 1: course a pro football great. By the way, did you 1041 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 1: know herschel Walker was also an Olympian He did the 1042 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 1: Bob Sled. I had no idea. I was doing a 1043 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: little research and I've met herschel a couple of times 1044 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,479 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. He's a wonderful guy. 1045 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 1: He is a true American patriot. He is now serving 1046 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 1: the president on a sports commission because he's long supported 1047 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 1: President Trump, so he is doing that. We'll talk to 1048 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 1: him about that. But also I might have to ask 1049 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 1: him about the Bob sled because this guy, I mean, 1050 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: world class athlete in every way, really good human being, 1051 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 1: and competed in the Olympic Games on the Bob sled. 1052 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 1: So we will talk to herschel Walker as first, though, 1053 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: I want to get to the border wall controversy. There 1054 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 1: has been a lot of back and forth in the 1055 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: last like a week or so about a government shutdown 1056 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 1: and whether or not there would be one over the 1057 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 1: president's request for five billion dollars, which let's keep in mind, 1058 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: five billion dollars in the scheme of things related to 1059 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: the federal government is like zero. I mean, the federal 1060 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 1: government spits and spends more than five billion dollars. Cash 1061 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 1: for clunkers is more than that. I mean, they waste 1062 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 1: so much money on bs and nonsense that five billion 1063 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,600 Speaker 1: dollars to begin this border wall is that's like an 1064 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: easy give for the Congress. It's an easy the federal government. 1065 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean again, five billion is like nothing. It's like 1066 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: spitting into the ocean for them. And yet because it's 1067 01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 1: so politically charged, the Democrats do not want to budge 1068 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,439 Speaker 1: on this. Now they have more leverage because they are 1069 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 1: taking control of the House of Representatives and Chuck Schumer 1070 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 1: is emboldened in the US Senate as well. So the 1071 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 1: President has been talking about this for a very long time, 1072 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 1: about building the wall on the southern border and getting 1073 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: that done. Now, remember last week when the President sat 1074 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 1: in the Oval Office with Chuck and Nancy and they 1075 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 1: had this exchange. One thing I think we can agree 1076 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 1: on is we shouldn't shut down the government over a dispute. 1077 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 1: And you want to shut it down. You keep talking 1078 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: about the last time, Chuck you shut it Then oh no, no, 1079 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 1: and then you want any time quickly. I don't want 1080 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: to do what you did twenty times you have called for. 1081 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 1: I will shut down the government if I don't get 1082 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 1: my wall, none of us. If you want to you 1083 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,120 Speaker 1: said you want to put that set, I'll take it. Okay, good, 1084 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'll say. Yes, if we don't get 1085 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: what we want one way or the other, whether it's 1086 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: through you, through a military, through anything you want to call, 1087 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 1: I will shut down the count And I am proud 1088 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: and I'm disagree. I am proud to shut down the 1089 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 1: government for border security each other because the people of 1090 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 1: this country don't want criminals and people that have lots 1091 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 1: of problems and drugs pouring into our country. So I 1092 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 1: will take the mantle. I will be the one to 1093 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 1: shut it down. I'm not gonna blame you for it. 1094 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 1: The last time you shut it down, it didn't work. 1095 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 1: I will take the mantle of shutting down and I'm 1096 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 1: going to shut it down for border But you shouldn't 1097 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 1: shut it down. Mike dropped moment for president drop right. 1098 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean at the time, I tweeted that exchange and 1099 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:40,439 Speaker 1: I said, watch and learn, people, watch and learn. That 1100 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 1: was presidential leadership. By the way, Schumer, who is never 1101 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever been put in his place 1102 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 1: like this, maybe ever. He was sitting there, crouched on 1103 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 1: the couch in the oval and his ears were on fire. 1104 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, but his ears 1105 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 1: got like bright red. He was so mortified that the 1106 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 1: president was putting him in his place. And then at 1107 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 1: the end of that clip you heard and saw if 1108 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 1: you watched it on TV, Nancy Pelosi trying to chime in. 1109 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's first of all, none of them still 1110 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 1: have learned how to deal with Donald Trump. Nancy trying 1111 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: to like chime in, Oh, I'm here too. I Meanwhile, 1112 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: the vice president is like whistling past the graveyard, like, 1113 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 1: don't look at me yet. The President didn't need any 1114 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:30,640 Speaker 1: help in that exchange. He handled it beautifully. That was 1115 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 1: presidential leadership. Now this week, however, we're getting closer to 1116 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: the Friday midnight deadline for when they need to fund 1117 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 1: the government. And that's why things have changed a bit, 1118 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: particularly on the border wall. Let me just make a 1119 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 1: bigger point about all of this. Why is everything in 1120 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: America a nail biter? Why? I mean, down to the 1121 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: very last vote on Brett Kavanaugh, pushing everything to the 1122 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 1: last minute they can fund the government. I mean, is 1123 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 1: nobody down there organized? We know that the president is, 1124 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 1: we know his White House is on top of things, 1125 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: but the rest of the government, everything is a nail biter. 1126 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be this way. Oh we're 1127 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,760 Speaker 1: going into Christmas Eve, let's pass Obamacare. It's always this 1128 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 1: way and this is not how a great power should operate. 1129 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: But this is where we are so now because they've 1130 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 1: got to do something before the Friday midnight deadline to 1131 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 1: fund the government. We're looking down the barrel of a 1132 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 1: possible government shutdown, but not a full one, a partial one. 1133 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 1: By the way, the President has already signed into law 1134 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:52,600 Speaker 1: funding for a bunch of various departments, including the Department 1135 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,640 Speaker 1: of Defense and some other health and human services and 1136 01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 1: so on, so critical services will continue to go on. 1137 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 1: They're already funded, so this would be a partial shutdown. 1138 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The President was elected because he's fearless, 1139 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,719 Speaker 1: because he you know, he's never done any of this before. 1140 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 1: He's not beholden to anybody, and that was one of 1141 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the big reasons why he was elected. To shake things 1142 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 1: up and to get things done as successful business leaders do, 1143 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 1: as he did when he was in business. But once 1144 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 1: they get in there, something happens. Now Trump Trump has 1145 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 1: really been immune to a lot of this. I mean, 1146 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 1: he is marched to his own drummer and really had 1147 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: an extraordinary list of accomplishments in just two years. But 1148 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,639 Speaker 1: when it comes to the idea of government shutdowns, last 1149 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 1: week he was saying, I would be proud to own 1150 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 1: a government shutdown over this, and he was right then 1151 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: because you know what, if you don't have sovereignty, if 1152 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: you don't have the rule of law, if you don't 1153 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 1: have an immigration system that is under control, and if 1154 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 1: you cannot control your borders, you do not have a country. 1155 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 1: You do not have a nation. It doesn't exist. So 1156 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 1: everything else that we talk about, none of it matters. 1157 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: If you don't actually have a sovereign country that abides 1158 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 1: by the backbone of America, which is the rule of law, 1159 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 1: you don't have it, and therefore nothing else matters. So 1160 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 1: he was right last week when he had that exchange 1161 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: with Schumer to say, I'd be proud to own a 1162 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 1: shutdown over this. Now Holy held broke loose on the 1163 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 1: Republican side, because look, Donald Trump has made tremendous progress 1164 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,759 Speaker 1: in putting the backbone into a lot of Republicans who 1165 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 1: if this were a President Bush or a President Romney, 1166 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,600 Speaker 1: these people would have run for the hills at the 1167 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,640 Speaker 1: first sign of trouble with Kavanaugh. Instead, you had Senators 1168 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 1: Susan and Collins, Lindsey Graham stepping up beat. Why because 1169 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Trump is out there doing the political blocking for all 1170 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: of these people. Some of them appreciate it, some of 1171 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,799 Speaker 1: them don't. Some of them take advantage of the political blocking, 1172 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: some of them don't. But Trump cannot do everything by himself. 1173 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 1: He needs Congress on a lot of this stuff, including 1174 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,599 Speaker 1: you know, of funding for various things, including the border wall. 1175 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,360 Speaker 1: And the narrative has been spun over many years that 1176 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 1: any kind of government shutdown is bad. I don't think 1177 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,800 Speaker 1: that assumption is correct, but it's out there. The perception 1178 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 1: is that any government shutdown is bad and it's all 1179 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 1: the Republicans fault because that's how the media portrays it. 1180 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 1: So we're president like Trump, who's generally very fearless, then 1181 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: gets hit with something like this, well, well the government 1182 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 1: shutdown is really gonna hurt you, and then other Republicans 1183 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 1: in his ear going, well, it's really going to hurt 1184 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 1: us collectively. So there's a story today wolf funding off 1185 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 1: the table. That's what Drudge has. But I just want 1186 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 1: to be really clear about this. It's not that the 1187 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 1: President is changing his tune about the wall. He is 1188 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 1: changing his tune if this story is to be believed, 1189 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think Linda correct me if I'm wrong, 1190 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 1: But I don't think we've heard from the President yet 1191 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,640 Speaker 1: today about how he's going to go about funding the 1192 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 1: wall of Congress won't get it to him, and he 1193 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 1: could say and do anything. But as it stands right now, 1194 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,040 Speaker 1: what he is saying is not he's backing away from 1195 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: the border wall. What he is changing his tune about 1196 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: is that that money will in fact come from Congress. 1197 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 1: Presse Secretary Sarah Sanders said today, quote, we have other 1198 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 1: ways to get to that five billion that we will 1199 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:57,040 Speaker 1: work with Congress. She added that the administration could support 1200 01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,440 Speaker 1: one point six billion in border security proposed by the Demokrats. 1201 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,280 Speaker 1: But as you just heard from Doug Shown a little 1202 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 1: while ago, now they're renegging on that Democrats don't want 1203 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: any part of this, and they certainly don't want to 1204 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:15,360 Speaker 1: give President Trump a big win. So I am very 1205 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 1: eager to hear from the president. The President has said 1206 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 1: there are various ways to go about getting the funding 1207 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 1: for the wall. He has talked about using the military 1208 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 1: in order to do this. The military has said it 1209 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 1: has no plans and hasn't heard yet from the White 1210 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 1: House on Pentagon building of the wall. But it's it's 1211 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,719 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch this because on the shutdown, everybody always 1212 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,599 Speaker 1: runs for the hills. Nobody wants to shut it down, 1213 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 1: and I understand that. However, I'm not entirely convinced that 1214 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 1: a partial shutdown isn't a good thing politically, economically, and 1215 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 1: to try to put pressure in order to get this 1216 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 1: wall done. So we will see what the President has 1217 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,640 Speaker 1: to say about this. I'm sure he is contemplating his 1218 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 1: next tweet and possibly composing it as we speak, and 1219 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,680 Speaker 1: if he does, we will of course bring that to you. 1220 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,719 Speaker 1: But here's the thing about the border wall. The need 1221 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,799 Speaker 1: for the wall, of course, involves national security, it involves 1222 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 1: economic reasons, etc. One of the big reasons why we're 1223 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 1: in this mess is because there has been an unholy 1224 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 1: alliance between Republicans and Democrats over many years on immigration 1225 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 1: and lack of a substantive southern border wall or fence 1226 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 1: or any kind of enforcement down there. Republicans have wanted 1227 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 1: sheep labor, the Chamber of Commerce, etc. Democrats have sought 1228 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:56,160 Speaker 1: to flood the zone, tip the scales precinct by precinct, 1229 01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 1: district by district, state by state until they achieve their 1230 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 1: ultimate goal, which is a permanent Democrat voting majority. That's 1231 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,200 Speaker 1: what Bido O'Rourke in Texas was all about. I mean, 1232 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 1: they flipped flip Texas blue. It's over. You will never 1233 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 1: again get a Republican president ever. Done. Finito. So this 1234 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,800 Speaker 1: unholy alliance between Republicans with their economic interest in having 1235 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 1: cheap labor and Democrats wanting to flood the country to 1236 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: bring in as many new voters for them as possible 1237 01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 1: has created this mess. Donald Trump was the only Republican 1238 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:43,600 Speaker 1: candidate in recent memory to have the courage and the 1239 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,559 Speaker 1: fearlessness to go out there and say, I will build 1240 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 1: a wall, I will enforce our immigration laws. I believe 1241 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,040 Speaker 1: in the rule of law. We've got to get a 1242 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,680 Speaker 1: handle on this. We've got to know how many illegals 1243 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 1: are here so we can even so we can deal 1244 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 1: with the system and try to improve that. But mission 1245 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:04,639 Speaker 1: number one is the southern border wall and making sure 1246 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 1: that that is enforced, because you can't get a handle 1247 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,759 Speaker 1: on the broken system unless you know number one who's 1248 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 1: here already, and number two you stop additional people from 1249 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 1: coming in. It is basic common sense, and that single 1250 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:22,760 Speaker 1: promise was the biggest thing, the biggest single thing to 1251 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 1: get Donald Trump elected president. It crossed party lines. Think 1252 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 1: about this when people talk about, oh, Republicans voted for 1253 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 1: him because they all want the wall. It's not just Republicans, 1254 01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 1: it is independence, it is democrats, it's others who are 1255 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 1: taking a look at this country and saying, wait a minute. 1256 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,760 Speaker 1: If you have no rule of law, why am I here? 1257 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 1: That's the thing that separates America from everything else. That's 1258 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 1: the thing rule of law that creates the backbone for 1259 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 1: American exceptionalism. So when he said I am here, I 1260 01:17:56,120 --> 01:18:00,760 Speaker 1: owe nobody anything. I'm going to build the wall, he 1261 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,839 Speaker 1: meant it. He's not a Johnny come lately to this issue. 1262 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 1: He has been talking about this a long time. He 1263 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 1: believes in it passionately. So I will be very eager 1264 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 1: to see what the President has to say about how 1265 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 1: he's going to get this wall done. He knows he's 1266 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 1: got to do it, and more importantly, he wants to 1267 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,600 Speaker 1: do it for the country, for the American worker and 1268 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,320 Speaker 1: the American citizen. I am Monica Crowley and for Sean. 1269 01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter at Monica Crowley, on Facebook at 1270 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:33,640 Speaker 1: Monica Crowley and Why, and on Instagram at Monica Crowley Underscore. 1271 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:40,240 Speaker 1: We are coming right back. Monica Crowley here for Sean 1272 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Hannity eight hundred nine four one seven three two six 1273 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:45,640 Speaker 1: let's go right to the phones for a quick call 1274 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 1: and say hi to Jill in Michigan. Nigel, Hi there, Monica, 1275 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 1: thanks so much for covering for Sean. Say you in 1276 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,719 Speaker 1: the gang are absolutely top of the top. So here's 1277 01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 1: the deal, talking about the border walls and order security. 1278 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 1: Here's all Trump has to do. And everybody saw it 1279 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,240 Speaker 1: on television. How it stand them. All Trump has to 1280 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:12,160 Speaker 1: do is every time Chuck Nancy or Republicans in name 1281 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:17,959 Speaker 1: only or any Democrat says start talking cox actually about anything, 1282 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,559 Speaker 1: all they have to do is keep saying, hey, Chuck Nancy, 1283 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,519 Speaker 1: you guys, you shot one hundred and fifty billions to 1284 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,000 Speaker 1: our assai in a lot and Iran. If you can 1285 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 1: afford the Iran deal, you can afford to build the wall. 1286 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 1: I am Monica Crowley in today for Sean. Big thanks 1287 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,000 Speaker 1: to Sean for having me in. And I know he's 1288 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 1: got a well deserved break underway. So we're thinking about 1289 01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 1: she Sean, and we miss you. Eight hundred nine for one, 1290 01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,559 Speaker 1: Sean is our number. Eight hundred nine four one, seven, 1291 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,639 Speaker 1: three to six. Follow me please on Twitter at Monica Crowley, 1292 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 1: on Facebook at Monica Crowley n Y, and on Instagram. 1293 01:19:55,800 --> 01:20:01,080 Speaker 1: At Monica Crowley underscore. Before we which gears here for 1294 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,480 Speaker 1: a moment, I just want to say that Gallup released 1295 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 1: I guess as of moments ago, they just released a 1296 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 1: brand new pole showing that the top problem cited by Americans. 1297 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 1: So they asked Americans, what do you think the top 1298 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:20,120 Speaker 1: problem is in the country? You know what number one was? Government? 1299 01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:25,720 Speaker 1: What a shocker. Most of the American people say government 1300 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,200 Speaker 1: is the top problem in the nation. Do you know 1301 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 1: what number two is? The second top problem that American 1302 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:42,880 Speaker 1: site is immigration? Build the wall. It is a political 1303 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:47,920 Speaker 1: winner in addition to being absolutely necessary for economic reasons 1304 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,960 Speaker 1: and national security ones. I want to switch gears now 1305 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,559 Speaker 1: and welcome to the show. I'm so excited to have 1306 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 1: him here. All American Husman Trophy winner, Olympian and prof 1307 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:04,640 Speaker 1: ball great Herschel Walker. Hi Herschel, Hello there, How are 1308 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,479 Speaker 1: you doing. Oh, I'm very well. Merry Christmas to you, 1309 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. Well, Merry Christmas to you 1310 01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 1: and Matta Christmas to all the listeners. Well, you and 1311 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,960 Speaker 1: I met Herschel about two years ago. I guess it 1312 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,639 Speaker 1: was during the campaign, and you were very vocal about 1313 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:24,040 Speaker 1: your support for then candidate Donald Trump. And I also 1314 01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,920 Speaker 1: recall that very early in your football career you played 1315 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,759 Speaker 1: in the USFL for the New Jersey Generals, a team 1316 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,519 Speaker 1: bought by none other than Donald Trump, So you have 1317 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,240 Speaker 1: known him for a very long time. What can you 1318 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:42,719 Speaker 1: tell us about Trump that we might not already know. Well, 1319 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:49,120 Speaker 1: you know one thing I can say about good Thank God. 1320 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,400 Speaker 1: It's been sad to me to listen to all these 1321 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:56,280 Speaker 1: reports about racism, about this, about that, and I'm like, guys, 1322 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,240 Speaker 1: at this president that we have right now has not 1323 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 1: one time ever said I'm trying to make China great again. 1324 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,719 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make North Korea great again. I'm trying 1325 01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,640 Speaker 1: to make Metsko great again. He's saying I'm trying to 1326 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 1: make America great again. And that's what is upsetting to me. 1327 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,160 Speaker 1: This is a good man, and I would love for 1328 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: the people, for the American people to give him an 1329 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 1: opportunity to show what he can do, because you look 1330 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,479 Speaker 1: at all the great things he's done without the help 1331 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,920 Speaker 1: of everybody, and my thing is give him an opportunity 1332 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,480 Speaker 1: to do it what the little help, and I guarantee 1333 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,559 Speaker 1: America would be greater than what it is right now. 1334 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,760 Speaker 1: You know that's a great point Herschel and you know 1335 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,519 Speaker 1: we've been making it Dad. Can you imagine how Donald 1336 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,760 Speaker 1: Trump can perform as president? He's already achieved so much 1337 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:44,040 Speaker 1: in terms of delivering a strong economy, a stronger military, 1338 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:48,200 Speaker 1: a stronger US international position. But can you imagine what 1339 01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,560 Speaker 1: he could do if number one, he didn't have the 1340 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,840 Speaker 1: Muller fake Russia investigation hanging over him. And number two, 1341 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,839 Speaker 1: if he had a little bit of support, not asking 1342 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 1: for a lot of support, just a little bit of support, 1343 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 1: treat him as a normal president rather than try to 1344 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,640 Speaker 1: tear him down and destroy him. Can you imagine what 1345 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,360 Speaker 1: he could get accomplished. Well, that's what I think is 1346 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 1: so amazing is you know, he's had his MoMA thing 1347 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 1: going on, and you know, one of the things I 1348 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,800 Speaker 1: think people need to stop for one moment to think 1349 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:22,080 Speaker 1: about since his election during their moderation, he had people 1350 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,240 Speaker 1: protesting at that time. So you got to think, what 1351 01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 1: is this president going through that he get election into office? 1352 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,559 Speaker 1: You know, the first non politician to go into office 1353 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,479 Speaker 1: to go and now you have every Emerald senators and 1354 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,639 Speaker 1: everyone did not even want to come present in orderation. 1355 01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 1: That's is an insulting when we are a country that 1356 01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 1: was built on laws, with a country that was built 1357 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,120 Speaker 1: on rights, and yet the people that we're supposed to 1358 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,960 Speaker 1: representing getting by a system we put in place, but 1359 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,800 Speaker 1: yet they don't abide by. I think that's what's said. 1360 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,320 Speaker 1: And now today when the situation we're in, when we 1361 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,599 Speaker 1: have a president that doing a lot of Greek things, 1362 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,040 Speaker 1: but yet we have a country that's divided and they 1363 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 1: blaming him. Well, it's not divided because of Donald Trump. 1364 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,640 Speaker 1: And I've said many times excuse me for using this 1365 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,760 Speaker 1: football time, but just because sometime you don't win the game, 1366 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,800 Speaker 1: it's not all the quarterbacks fault. Sometimes we got to 1367 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,679 Speaker 1: look around and look at other people on a team 1368 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,240 Speaker 1: to see what's going on. Yes, exactly. And I keep saying, 1369 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, Donald Trump is incredible and has achieved so much, 1370 01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 1: but he can't do everything by himself. Politics is a 1371 01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 1: team sport. You know, Herschel. I've been following you over 1372 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,479 Speaker 1: the last two years, and you and I have spoken 1373 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,920 Speaker 1: on occasion. I know that you've taken a lot of 1374 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,960 Speaker 1: criticism for supporting the president. You still stand by him, 1375 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 1: but a lot of the criticism that comes at you, 1376 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,280 Speaker 1: especially comes from the black community. So talk to us 1377 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,320 Speaker 1: a little bit about how you're trying to get the 1378 01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:51,120 Speaker 1: message out on the president's economic agenda, how black unemployment 1379 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 1: is at historic lows thanks to him and what he's 1380 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,240 Speaker 1: been doing. How are you reaching folks in the black 1381 01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,920 Speaker 1: community to let them know the truth. Well, first thing, 1382 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying to reach the black community in doing this, 1383 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,799 Speaker 1: and yuys, first of all, education is so important. Education 1384 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,639 Speaker 1: is so important, and let them know that. Yeah, you're right, 1385 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 1: things have to change. There's no doubt things have to change. 1386 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 1: But it's not Donald trump fault. We was a country 1387 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,120 Speaker 1: that was built on lows. We're a country that was 1388 01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:21,400 Speaker 1: to become a wonderful country because of lows. But today, 1389 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,280 Speaker 1: the way we change these laws not through presidents. We 1390 01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,040 Speaker 1: got to change it through Countress. So instead of us 1391 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:31,080 Speaker 1: blaming Donald Trump or President Trump, why don't we blame 1392 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,559 Speaker 1: some of the people that have been in office for 1393 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:37,200 Speaker 1: a long long time that continues to try to pretend like, oh, 1394 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:40,120 Speaker 1: we want to change things. Well, I'm not gonna call 1395 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,960 Speaker 1: out anyone, but there's people that been in office talking 1396 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,240 Speaker 1: about gun control for every all the forever, talking about 1397 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,479 Speaker 1: different things, but yet they've done so little. So instead 1398 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,840 Speaker 1: of blaming the president. Let's blame some of the office 1399 01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,960 Speaker 1: in line that's supposed to be blaunching for them, and 1400 01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,719 Speaker 1: whether it's on the Democratic side or the Republican side, 1401 01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,240 Speaker 1: Because before Donald Trump got elect it, I said, at 1402 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,959 Speaker 1: this time here, we need to forget about this elephant 1403 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,400 Speaker 1: and this donkey and get down to what's best for 1404 01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,720 Speaker 1: this country. And I think that's what Donald Trump has 1405 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,080 Speaker 1: decided to do. He's not I don't think he's a 1406 01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 1: Republican or he's Democratic. He said I'm great for America. 1407 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,680 Speaker 1: Even when he said that I'm a nationalism. People get 1408 01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,839 Speaker 1: upset with that. It doesn't matter what this president says. 1409 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 1: People are upset about it. When yet all he's done 1410 01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 1: in the black community is to have the unemployment getting better, 1411 01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,639 Speaker 1: trying to go into the inner city and do things. 1412 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,760 Speaker 1: And you know, he's getting me in a task of 1413 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,160 Speaker 1: trying to get these young men and these young women 1414 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,559 Speaker 1: in the condition that need need to be in. You know, 1415 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,720 Speaker 1: he's appointed hershal workup position an African American, and he's 1416 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 1: appointed other African American positions that go out and do 1417 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,080 Speaker 1: different things. And we're gonna, we're gonna say things are 1418 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 1: getting better. I think they are but yet we can 1419 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 1: help for them to get better by coming together as 1420 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 1: one group. You know, you mentioned the President appointing you 1421 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,880 Speaker 1: to this Presidential Commission to herschel, it is the President's 1422 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 1: Counseling on Sports, Fitness and Trician and you along with 1423 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,599 Speaker 1: former Yankees pitcher Marianna Rivera, who have also met another 1424 01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,520 Speaker 1: amazing guy and big supporter of President Trump, an Olympian 1425 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Misty Maid trainer. You guys are co chairs of this commission. 1426 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,559 Speaker 1: Tell us what you're doing. But what we're trying to 1427 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,200 Speaker 1: do right now is get the young people incentified to 1428 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,719 Speaker 1: start working out again. You know, one of the things 1429 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 1: that I was doing years before I got this position 1430 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,160 Speaker 1: is I was trying to encourage people that instead of 1431 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,680 Speaker 1: just talking about physical fit, what we're talking about is healthcare. 1432 01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,160 Speaker 1: What we're talking about is healthcare, what we're talking about 1433 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,439 Speaker 1: heart disease. We're talking about a lot more than just peve. 1434 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about a lot more just getting kids in shape. 1435 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,160 Speaker 1: We're trying to find incentive that we can encourage people 1436 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,800 Speaker 1: to work out. And one of the things, another thing 1437 01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,479 Speaker 1: I like to point out it is President Trump has 1438 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 1: appointed a lot of people in this council now that 1439 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,559 Speaker 1: a go getters the young men and women, and I 1440 01:27:55,640 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 1: have to get Richmond a crap because we're doing something 1441 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,160 Speaker 1: a little different. Now. We have a foundation that we 1442 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,200 Speaker 1: put together that we're trying to go out and get 1443 01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 1: different things done, and we're making things happen there. Well, 1444 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of what you're doing on this. It's 1445 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,280 Speaker 1: so important to reach a lot of kids and adults 1446 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,800 Speaker 1: with this message about physical fitness and a good diet 1447 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 1: versus the Michelle Obama way of taking away kids chocolate 1448 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,200 Speaker 1: milk at like it's a bad thing. Well, it's not 1449 01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 1: a bad thing in moderation as long as you get 1450 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,439 Speaker 1: your exercise and so on, especially now herschel during the 1451 01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,040 Speaker 1: holiday season when a lot of us are having a 1452 01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 1: little too much ho ho ho. Right, that's exactly right. 1453 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,560 Speaker 1: And one of the things I said, you know this 1454 01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,519 Speaker 1: phone the first lady. Yes, you did a great job. 1455 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,479 Speaker 1: Let's move campaign campaign, but you know one of the 1456 01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 1: things I want to add to it. And just as 1457 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 1: you said, moderation is the key. Let's not go out 1458 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 1: and point out any company is say that that's bad. 1459 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,160 Speaker 1: But what we can do is talk to those companies 1460 01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,000 Speaker 1: and see what they're doing to make that communities better 1461 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,960 Speaker 1: and they're happy within our communities. And at the same time, 1462 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,040 Speaker 1: you know today you're right, this is the holiday times. 1463 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, you can pile it on, 1464 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,599 Speaker 1: and I would help you to cut it up, because 1465 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,160 Speaker 1: what you can do is, if you're gonna eat that cake, 1466 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,600 Speaker 1: let'sten okay. If I'm gonna eat that cake, let me 1467 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,400 Speaker 1: walk an extra mile today. If I'm gonna eat those doughnuts, 1468 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 1: let me go out and do a couple of more 1469 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:24,240 Speaker 1: pushups and set ups. But you gotta won't because today 1470 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,880 Speaker 1: we have a we have a system in place now. 1471 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,240 Speaker 1: And you know, years ago we used to have it 1472 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 1: in school where we had to te we had it 1473 01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,480 Speaker 1: fits to fit, but now we don't have those things. 1474 01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 1: Most of the kids to death on their computer. They're 1475 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,519 Speaker 1: on their laptop. But what I did my son is 1476 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 1: I said, for every hour you're gonna be on your 1477 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,240 Speaker 1: computer or your laptop, that's now you have to exercise 1478 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,800 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, every time you're gonna do this, that's 1479 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:50,760 Speaker 1: you have to have account of ballance to that. And 1480 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,320 Speaker 1: I think that's what we got to start putting in 1481 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,519 Speaker 1: place for all you people. Well, good for you for 1482 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,800 Speaker 1: doing it, and thank you for helping the president with 1483 01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 1: us as well. M Herschel, I'm gonna ask you about 1484 01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 1: the NFL, which has become a hotbed of controversy over 1485 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,599 Speaker 1: kneeling during the national anthem and so on. Ratings are 1486 01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,720 Speaker 1: way down, stadiums are half full. What's your view of 1487 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:16,519 Speaker 1: the protests and how the NFL has handled this whole issue. Well, 1488 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, I said it early on, and I hate 1489 01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,040 Speaker 1: to jump back on the commissioner, but I think the 1490 01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 1: commissioner dropped the ball. I think he dropped the ball 1491 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,120 Speaker 1: because I think he wanted to be politically correct and 1492 01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:30,200 Speaker 1: make everyone happen. But I've said many times that if 1493 01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,599 Speaker 1: you're the head person some people, you're not gonna make happen. 1494 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 1: I think when if it first started, at that time, 1495 01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:41,479 Speaker 1: here said no, no one is gonna kneel, everyone's gonna stand, 1496 01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:43,960 Speaker 1: and if you have a problem, let's go in and 1497 01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,800 Speaker 1: we're confronting that problem somewhere else, but not at your job. 1498 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 1: And now says everyone thinking that you're supposed to nia. 1499 01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:53,000 Speaker 1: Everyone said they have their freedom to speak, and my 1500 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,280 Speaker 1: problem with that as well. You do have your feet 1501 01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,680 Speaker 1: to speak, but not on your job. Time to do 1502 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,920 Speaker 1: something that time not to do, and I just feel 1503 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,799 Speaker 1: to do a protest on your job is not freedom 1504 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 1: of speech. I think that continued to hurt the NFL 1505 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,840 Speaker 1: and I and I think the commission now need to 1506 01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,760 Speaker 1: take hold of it. And now he needed to say, 1507 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, that was a mistake made. You know, you 1508 01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,160 Speaker 1: look at what's happening now or the young man in 1509 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,080 Speaker 1: Kansas City that that having to do the incident and 1510 01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,400 Speaker 1: kicking a young lady. And then he said whether the 1511 01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:24,480 Speaker 1: NFL investigated or whether they didn't investigate it, no, who knows. 1512 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,240 Speaker 1: But I think they should have put systems in plays 1513 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 1: the hammer that at the time. It doesn't get those 1514 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,080 Speaker 1: down the road. When you kick the can down the 1515 01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 1: road and soon or later it comes back, I think 1516 01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,680 Speaker 1: they should have handled that at the time instead of 1517 01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,400 Speaker 1: just pretending. But have a system in place that you 1518 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,120 Speaker 1: can take care of that, you know, Kevin Knick, you know, 1519 01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,800 Speaker 1: I think what he was what he was talking about 1520 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:49,160 Speaker 1: was something that people but let's be understood, you don't 1521 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,800 Speaker 1: do it on your job. I think you have every 1522 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to come down to Congress and have the every 1523 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to bring and I would have loved to go 1524 01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,679 Speaker 1: down to Congress and march those holes and walk those 1525 01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,400 Speaker 1: wholes with them, to do the talking to all of 1526 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,479 Speaker 1: Congress people about police and talking about that. Because I 1527 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:08,920 Speaker 1: believe in law enforcement. I want to be a law 1528 01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,559 Speaker 1: enforcement And all policemen are not bad, you know. That's 1529 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,679 Speaker 1: what I'm That's what I'm said to me. All policemen 1530 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:18,000 Speaker 1: are not bad. And I think you need to realize that. 1531 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,759 Speaker 1: You then have some bad apples ending in a bunch. 1532 01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,360 Speaker 1: But that's the same as as as American people. That's 1533 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,920 Speaker 1: something good and that's something bad. But the way we 1534 01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,600 Speaker 1: do it is through doing it the correct way. And 1535 01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,439 Speaker 1: I think the way they did it that was not correct. 1536 01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,559 Speaker 1: Well and now and now, Herschel, there's a bit of 1537 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,559 Speaker 1: a crisis surrounding the super Bowl because they've got Maroon 1538 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,439 Speaker 1: five for the halftime show, but they can't book any 1539 01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,479 Speaker 1: other musical guests. You know, these celebrities don't want to 1540 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,200 Speaker 1: be associated with the NFL because of the protests and 1541 01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,320 Speaker 1: so on. And I look at this and I think, well, 1542 01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:52,120 Speaker 1: number one, I'll volunteer myself. I will perform at the 1543 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,960 Speaker 1: super Bowl halftime if they'll have me. But the bigger 1544 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,920 Speaker 1: point Herschel is that the NFL is politicized now, everything 1545 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,360 Speaker 1: is so politicial size. I think it's really unhealthy, not 1546 01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:06,440 Speaker 1: just for the NFL, but it's unhealthy for the whole society. 1547 01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:08,840 Speaker 1: It's very unhealthy. And and you know, for it to 1548 01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,200 Speaker 1: be the Super Bowl to be in Atlanta, Georgia, you know, 1549 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,320 Speaker 1: that's home for me. Atlanta have so many great, great 1550 01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,120 Speaker 1: entertainers there in Atlanta, and for them now to not 1551 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,840 Speaker 1: be able to get a second act, it's sort of embarrassing. 1552 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,120 Speaker 1: It's embarrassing and it's sort of insulted. And I think, 1553 01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,439 Speaker 1: what the NFL. Then, that's why why I said that 1554 01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 1: they dropped the ball to be completed. Politicizing right now 1555 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,240 Speaker 1: is not the time to do it. But I think 1556 01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,800 Speaker 1: we need to take it away from the president. And 1557 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:36,240 Speaker 1: I hate to say it, I think we need to 1558 01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,559 Speaker 1: leave it on the plate of the Democratic people, all 1559 01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,559 Speaker 1: Republican people. That is the problem. And I know they're 1560 01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:46,040 Speaker 1: going to get upset with me, but these problems has 1561 01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:49,400 Speaker 1: been on all the plate for years and nothing has 1562 01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,880 Speaker 1: been done. And that's talking about border control, but that 1563 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,479 Speaker 1: has been a problem for years, right And that's why 1564 01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was elected in the first place, because he 1565 01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,599 Speaker 1: is an outsider and he can get this stuff done 1566 01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,760 Speaker 1: herschel Walker. Lovely to talk to you as always. Thank 1567 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,519 Speaker 1: you so much, my friend Mary. Christmas, I'm Monica Crowley 1568 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,360 Speaker 1: in for Sean. All right, before we close it out 1569 01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,360 Speaker 1: for the day, let's say hi to Diane, who's been 1570 01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:16,000 Speaker 1: very patient. Hi Diane, Hi Monica, thanks for taking my call. 1571 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:17,760 Speaker 1: I have twenty five seconds. I want to tell you 1572 01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,360 Speaker 1: I love you very much and I want in on 1573 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:24,080 Speaker 1: those manolos. I wanted to say, how come what kind 1574 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,200 Speaker 1: of lawyers does Michael Flynn have? I mean, I don't 1575 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,280 Speaker 1: understand why he's not being stood out up for. I 1576 01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:30,640 Speaker 1: know he had to spend a lot of money on 1577 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,160 Speaker 1: legal fees, but I don't understand why he's lost his rights. 1578 01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,599 Speaker 1: Basically what seems like to me, Well, there's a lot 1579 01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,760 Speaker 1: of stuff going on behind the scenes. We don't know 1580 01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,760 Speaker 1: about it yet, Diane, but we shall all right. Big 1581 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,200 Speaker 1: thanks to Sean for having me host for him today, 1582 01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,840 Speaker 1: the hilarious Linda, the wonderful Ethan, and to all of 1583 01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:53,120 Speaker 1: you for rolling with me today. I am Monica Crowley 1584 01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,520 Speaker 1: in for Sean. Merry Christmas,