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Speaker 3: Welcome in everybody, Final Hour Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: Jason and Mike are out very deserved New Year's Day off,

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Speaker 3: as you heard the man Arators. Jason Martin filling in

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Speaker 3: for Ben Mallor they will bet Brian No will follow us.

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Speaker 3: Adam Osland. I stand corrected. That's Osland with a bunch

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Speaker 3: Adam Ousland. Joe is in after us, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Husky and Arnie Spanier in for Jason and Mike on Friday,

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Speaker 3: JA Day.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back one day.

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Speaker 6: By the way, I feel like tower or trivia. There's

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Speaker 6: gonna be aro, There's gonna be a spin off show

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Speaker 4: Bee doesn't roll off the tongue nearly as well. Yeah

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Speaker 4: that's pretty good.

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Speaker 6: Uh, that's about the laugh that deserves. But no, it

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Speaker 6: was just a rough It was kind of a rough

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Speaker 6: outing for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I also gave I also defaulted.

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Speaker 3: It's like being a sprinter that like defaults out of

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Speaker 3: disqualified before the race even begins.

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Speaker 4: Final question.

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Speaker 3: The answer was Day, as in Ryan Day, and I

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Speaker 6: So it was a very Connor Stallions like move by you.

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Speaker 3: No Connor Stallions is ahead of things, man, I was

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Speaker 3: just way way way behind.

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Speaker 6: Well, you were cheating very blatantly and got caught.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that that wasn't an attempt to cheat.

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to.

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Speaker 6: Expel I know, I know. Yeah, it was just really

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Speaker 6: I know you were I know exactly what you were doing.

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Speaker 3: It was just really dumb. It's okay to admit that

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Speaker 3: College football is final four results over the last twenty

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Speaker 3: four or so hours. Miami beats Ohio State late last

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Speaker 3: night on New Year's Eve, Oregon takes care of Texas

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Speaker 3: Tech twenty three to nothing. Indiana dominates Alabama, and the

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Speaker 3: most recent result was just insanity final score at the

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Speaker 3: Sugar Bowl. Ol Miss wins thirty nine to thirty four

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Speaker 3: and Old Miss field goal with six seconds left puts

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Speaker 3: them up thirty seven to thirty four.

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Speaker 4: That was supposed to be the end of the game.

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Speaker 3: The ensuing kickoff, Georgia tries a lateral throws it out

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Speaker 3: of bounds. It ends up being a safety. Old Miss

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Speaker 3: celebrates one second gets left put on the clock. How

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Speaker 3: about this, George is forced to kick off. Old Miss

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Speaker 3: that time apparently would not come off the clock. Georgia

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Speaker 3: recovers it with one second left. A million different later

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Speaker 3: les does not matter. Old Miss wins. This was the

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Speaker 3: most recent result j Mart. Frankly, it was the most

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Speaker 3: competitive and entertaining game of the quarterfinals of the cover

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Speaker 3: a wide margin. Take it where you want, man, it's

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Speaker 3: unbelievable when Old misadvances. They will play now, of course,

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Speaker 3: playing Miami, Miami in the in the Fiesta Bowl next week.

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Speaker 6: So I'm in the story. The story. It's storybook stuff,

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Speaker 6: want to make them, make them a bigger villain. Now,

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Speaker 6: make it even harder on Ole Miss going into this

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Speaker 6: though they lost to Notre Dame last year, and they

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Speaker 6: made mistakes along the way. In the first half, they

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Speaker 6: second half they just stopped doing it. Guys started making

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Speaker 6: the first half at Chambliss Trinidad. Chambliss was just outstanding

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Speaker 6: Their defense was decleting Gunner Stockton over and over in

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Speaker 6: well played game in many many facets. But the idea

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Speaker 6: think that the biggest story, unfortunately, is the absence of

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Speaker 6: the thing that you're left thinking about more than anything

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Speaker 3: Well, and again, the Ole Miss is the story, but

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Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin is part of it. The other thing I

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Speaker 3: before we get off air. Here's the other thing is

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Speaker 3: one I already said it a minute ago, but you

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Speaker 3: that is good enough to win the championship. And the

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Speaker 3: argument for Lane Kiffin was LSU provides me year over

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Speaker 3: year better chances, hypothetically. The thing is, there was nothing

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Speaker 3: If Lane Kiffin feels like, and you know, the reporting

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Speaker 4: LSU historically is a better job than Ole Miss.

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Speaker 3: Okay, My only argument to that would be this is

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Speaker 3: if you're Lane Kiff and you're leaving a team that's

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Speaker 3: It might not be LSU, it might be this school,

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Speaker 3: Jobs is going to open again, and as long as

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Speaker 3: part that trips me out is it's one thing if

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Speaker 3: we're not even close. I can't do it here, that's

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Speaker 3: one thing, But you had the opportunity right in front

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Speaker 6: If that makes sense. Yeah, And look, I think that's

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Speaker 6: whatever it is. The lang Kiffin always is looking somewhere else.

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Speaker 6: It seems like that's kind of been them, that's been

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Speaker 6: every single year. So at the very least, I think

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Speaker 3: So I think this all speaks to a bigger picture.

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Speaker 3: You talked about the fact that Peak Golding is a

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Speaker 4: Peak Golding is a guy that you can hold on to.

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Speaker 3: But in this era, this if there was ever an

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Speaker 3: a good example of this is what we saw in

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Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl. Kurt Signetti probably could have gotten the

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Speaker 6: Oh, I would think so, yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if he didn't want that one, maybe

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Speaker 3: he stays and he could have gotten Miss.

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Speaker 4: The point being you don't have to leave. And I

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Speaker 3: I want to give credit where it's due, Brandon Walker

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Speaker 3: from Barstool Sports. I want your opinion on this, he

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Speaker 3: tweeted about an hour ago. Quote, this is the playoff

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Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti Indiana Hoosiers thirty eight to three win. We're

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Speaker 3: Before we do the final time this evening, Mantu blanios.

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Speaker 5: We have the semi final set in the college football

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Speaker 3: the worst postseason loss in Alabama history. I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: what you know, listen, it is what it is. This

439
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Speaker 3: isn't like a Kaelin de Bourne needs to be fired thing.

440
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Speaker 3: But what I will say, and we had Ryan Foller

441
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Speaker 3: on earlier in the show they he did inherit a

442
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: lot of talent, I understand, maybe not quite as much

443
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Speaker 3: as people think. And I just feel like we're starting

444
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Speaker 3: to hit lows that I didn't think we would see

445
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 3: Alabama hit this fast. I know they were in the playoff,

446
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: I know they won eleven games, blown out by Georgia,

447
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 3: four losses overall, and just absolutely obliterated in Pasadena on

448
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Speaker 3: Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what. I'm still really

450
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 6: curious to see what the reaction is going to be

451
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 6: from the louder Alabama fan in Tuscaloosa that lives or

452
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 6: dies by the team. Twenty four seven, three sixty five. Like,

453
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Speaker 6: I want to know what they have to say. And

454
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 6: you know, Ryan Vawler said he believes they'll be patient

455
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 6: in a lot of respects when it comes to the

456
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Speaker 6: coaching staff, particularly with Debor, and you would kind of

457
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 6: hope that they would. But I do think that you

458
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 6: begin to enter that territory where Bama fans gotten used

459
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Speaker 6: to a certain lifestyle and we're getting further and further

460
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Speaker 6: away from them living that lifestyle, and that becomes a

461
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Speaker 6: concern if you're a coach pretty quickly there maybe it

462
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 6: actually that tie can rise real fast, no pun intended

463
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 6: against you. And you look at this and you look

464
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Speaker 6: at the rest of the conference around him, just in

465
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Speaker 6: the sec they're getting by some teams right now, and

466
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 6: they've been caught by several others, and they are very

467
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Speaker 6: much of the old guard. And the question is how

468
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Speaker 6: patient are you going to be and how patient can

469
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Speaker 6: you afford to be? And you know, what is the

470
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Speaker 6: consensus going to be around the team, Because yes I

471
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Speaker 6: do and I said this, like I remember predicting that

472
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Speaker 6: Saban would be out within three years, and I think

473
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Speaker 6: it was one and a half and he retired. I

474
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Speaker 6: don't think he wanted to be a part of this

475
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 6: new version of what college football has become. I think

476
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 6: he knew he was going to be good on TV,

477
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Speaker 6: and he's been excellent on TV. But I also believe

478
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Speaker 6: he didn't want to be Belichick in New England at

479
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Speaker 6: the end. And I don't think he's gonna come back

480
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 6: into football because there's nothing left like what everyone thinks

481
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 6: of him now, his legacy is completely and totally intact.

482
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 6: What happens if Belichick leaves New England the year that

483
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 6: Brady goes to Tampa Bay, everything about him is completely different.

484
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Speaker 6: If he does come back and coach football, it goes

485
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 6: does TV, which I also thought he was pretty fun

486
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 6: on and enjoyed. But Saban, I think Saban left right

487
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 6: about the time where it was going to be much

488
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 6: harder for them to do what they had done, and

489
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 6: it was already difficult. It's incredibly hard to win in

490
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 6: college football. There's so much that goes into it. But

491
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Speaker 6: I think Valer was right, and you reiterated it a

492
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Speaker 6: moment ago. The cupboard was not just chocked full at

493
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Speaker 6: Bamma win Saban left, they had already been caught by Georgia.

494
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Speaker 6: You were starting to see some other teams emerging year

495
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 6: in and year out. They were not the most dominant

496
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 6: force on the football field anymore. And it wasn't because

497
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 6: Nick Saban was coaching worse. It was just a different landscape.

498
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Speaker 6: I think he saw it and he got out, and

499
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Speaker 6: I applaud him for it. I think he made the

500
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 6: right decision. He had done everything that you needed to do.

501
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 6: Came when the boar leaves Washington, you know, after the

502
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 6: go to a national championship game, and he goes to

503
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Speaker 6: Alabama and he replaces the greatest coach in the history

504
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 6: of the sport, and it's just a tough ask and

505
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 6: you just wonder how long or you just wonder what

506
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 6: the Bbama fans are thinking about him while their team

507
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 6: was just flat out and handled on the field today.

508
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 6: And yes, they were out coached. The Indiana staff out

509
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 6: coached them left, right and center. So that's my thing

510
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 6: is just when you look at Bama, I don't think

511
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 6: you should be surprised by what you saw today, but

512
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 6: if you had watched all season long, because I feel

513
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 6: like Indiana was sort of the final boss that fully

514
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 6: could expose everything we had seen in Alabama pretty much

515
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 6: since the South Carolina game that they should have lost.

516
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 6: Since that point, they really didn't play good football. They

517
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 6: didn't look good in the iron bol. We already saw

518
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Speaker 6: what happened against Georgia. They were in because of where

519
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 6: they had already been placed before they ever even played

520
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 6: the iron ball. All they had to do find a

521
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 6: way to win that game, and they did, and they

522
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 6: got into this thing even with the SEC championship loss.

523
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Speaker 6: But I do just look at the whole thing and

524
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 6: just say, I think this is the Alabama team. We

525
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 6: kind of said they were about four weeks into the season,

526
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Speaker 6: and then you started to back off because they went

527
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 6: on that streak, but they were a very flawed team

528
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 6: with some definite holes. Abama team that can't run the

529
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 6: football just doesn't even look like Alabama, especially when Indiana

530
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 6: was running it down their throat right at them, which

531
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Speaker 6: is exactly what Nick saban Steems used depride themselves on.

532
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Speaker 3: So and that's why it's a little concerning to me

533
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 3: if you're an Alabama fan, is because you know, listen,

534
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti, we understand every situation a little bit different.

535
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Speaker 3: But he got the Indiana job the same time that

536
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Speaker 3: Kalen de Bor got the Alabama job. And it's not

537
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: to say that kalender Bor has been terrible, but in

538
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: that short amount of time, Kurt Signetti created a culture

539
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: of toughness and physicality and this and that, and so

540
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Speaker 3: it's like, I understand this notion of it's a new

541
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 3: world and you inherit it a lot. And you know, certainly,

542
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: like even coming into the season, there was kind of

543
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: talk of Debor got the job so late, and you

544
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: you know, players could enter the portal that you know,

545
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: he didn't want to basically, and I don't mean this

546
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: even in a negative way with Debor, but he was

547
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: basically like I kind of had to use the kid

548
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: gloves that that first time around, because you know, he

549
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: gets the job, players can enter the portal, and then

550
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: there was at the time a spring portal, so basically

551
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: he couldn't really coach the team the way they want it.

552
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: The only point I'm trying to make is that, like

553
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: I do think there is something to the notion that, like,

554
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 3: especially in this era two years in, like you kind

555
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 3: of are who you are, and like I don't know

556
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: that in an offseason you can now create like you're

557
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: always gonna have talent, but the the toughness, the whatever,

558
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: and it's just I don't know, I don't even know

559
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: what point I'm really trying to make.

560
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Speaker 6: No, I think you're I think I do. I think

561
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 6: you I know what you're saying. There was something about

562
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 6: Alabama where there was an edge and a crispness to

563
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 6: what they did that was built on physicality and toughness

564
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 6: in the trenches, but also just the way that their

565
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 6: offense ran throughout most of Saban's tenure. There was a

566
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 6: level of power and physicality and just like man's game

567
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 6: kind of football. And I saw this comment actually around

568
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 6: the third fourth quarter of the game, and it basically said,

569
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Speaker 6: you know, two years in or whatever, three years in

570
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 6: to calein divorce time, now two years in to his

571
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 6: time at Alabama, and the mo on his offenses are

572
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 6: they're soft. That was something you could never say about

573
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 6: what the Alabama was before he got there, Like there's

574
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Speaker 6: just I don't know what it is like, but watching

575
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 6: them against Indiana in particular, but it was true against

576
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 6: Georgia too. They just didn't have that edge or that

577
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 6: extra something that terrified people. Like there's nothing about them

578
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 6: anymore that scares you. And that's just so weird based

579
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 6: on what we've come to know Alabama to be.

580
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll say this too is that I think

581
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: the other thing as well. They quit during the game,

582
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: and I want to talk about that in half a second,

583
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: but here was Kirk Kurbstreet talking about this exact thing

584
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: during the game.

585
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 8: It feels like Alabama, it's just strange to see.

586
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: They're just existing, They're just out there.

587
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 8: Nobody's penetrating nobody's.

588
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 6: Playing with any fire.

589
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 8: They're just it's almost like they feel defeated, like there's

590
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 8: nothing we can do. Nobody's making an impact player, not

591
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 8: even try their hands on their hips.

592
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 6: They're just kind of out there.

593
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: That was Kirk Kurbstreet during the Rose Bowl, and I

594
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: think that kind of speaks to maybe the point that

595
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: I was trying to get to. There is a physical toughness,

596
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: there's also just a mental toughness. And it's one thing

597
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: to lose, and it's one thing to even lose to

598
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: a better team. It's one thing to lose in a

599
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: game where you quit. And I do think Alabama quit.

600
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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, India has a great team. They deserve

601
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: all the quite literal flowers and figurative flowers that they

602
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: got after that Rose Bowl. But Alabama also did quit

603
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: during that game.

604
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Speaker 6: Jmark, Yeah, it's hard not to say that. To say

605
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 6: they were existing is basically to say that they were

606
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 6: going through the motions as a football team. But there

607
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 6: was just there was no energy. They had been just

608
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 6: demoralized to a point where they just wanted the game

609
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 6: to be over, and so they were just I don't

610
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 6: even know if i'd call it the bare minimum. It

611
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 6: was just kind of like it's like they're playing with

612
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 6: the flu. It just didn't look right, No part of

613
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Speaker 6: it did. And look a lot of that goes to

614
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 6: Indiana and what they were doing, right, I mean, Mendoza

615
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 6: had two incompletions in the entire football game. Crazy right, Yeah,

616
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 6: just outstads stuff and they were running it down their

617
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 6: throat and everything else. But like they couldn't get off

618
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 6: the field on third downs, if they could even get

619
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 6: Indiana to third down situations everything. I mean, once uh,

620
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 6: once the quarterback change happened, you know, that made it

621
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 6: interesting for a couple of minutes just to see what,

622
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 6: uh what Mac was gonna do. But like generally speaking,

623
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 6: Alabama was beaten, Like they were beaten on the sidelines.

624
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 6: They're whatever unit was on the sidelines was watching the

625
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 6: game like, well, we're not coming back in this. Everybody

626
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 6: had that feeling there was there was nobody playing even

627
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 6: when they would make a play here and there, there

628
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 6: was none of that like Alabama moxie almost cockiness, that arrogance,

629
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 6: those like big time celebrations after plays. You got it.

630
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 6: You saw it twice in the entire game. And it

631
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 6: was the two sacks on Mendoza on the very first

632
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 6: drive where it's like, oh, okay, they're blitzing, so we're

633
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 6: seeing Kane Wamike, you know, do some, do some to

634
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 6: try and get Mendoz off the spot. They're forcing the

635
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 6: issue to try to be physical. But once they got

636
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 6: the ball back and Indiana scored for the first time, like,

637
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 6: it just didn't feel like the same team. And I

638
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 6: really did believe on the fourth down call and getting

639
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 6: all trickeration twice in a row, and we've got Ty

640
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 6: Simpson out here as a protector and then we're going

641
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 6: to bring him back underneath and all this other stuff

642
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 6: like and Signetti was just kind of stone faced on

643
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 6: the sideline like, yeah, I hope you don't think this

644
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 6: is going to work. But it felt to me watching

645
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 6: that like that is the call of a coach that

646
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 6: knows he can't win. That is such a desperation call

647
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 6: like that one right there. I think the Boar will

648
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 6: get some flak for that call because I don't think

649
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 6: that was being aggressive. I felt like that was desperate

650
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 6: and to do that that early in the game just

651
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 6: indicated that you didn't think that you could play with

652
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 6: them for four quarters. Or you certainly didn't think that

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Speaker 6: your defense had anything for them.

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Speaker 3: Game did feel over after that ty Simpson fumble?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, you.

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Speaker 3: Referenced the for people who were not able to watch

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Speaker 3: the game live. Debor went for it deep in his

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Speaker 4: They did not get it.

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Speaker 3: Indiana scored shortly thereafter, and then a ty Simpson fumble

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Speaker 3: late in the second quarter went to j Mart's point. Basically,

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Speaker 3: he got a first down, could have gotten down, try

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Speaker 3: to pick up extra yards. Frankly, kind of cost Alabama everything,

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Speaker 3: including ty Simpson, who left the game shortly thereafter with

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Speaker 3: a rib injury. But that fumble Indiana recovered, scored right

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Speaker 3: before the half. It was seventeen to nothing at that point,

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Speaker 3: and from there the game was basically over Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 3: This is the Jason Smith Show. Mike Harmen, Jason and

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Speaker 3: Mic are out Era Tors, Jason Martin taking you up

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Speaker 3: till two a m Eastern one segment left. JAMRT will

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Speaker 3: quickly look at the two semi finals and maybe for

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Speaker 3: the NFL audience even talk a little bit about a busy,

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Speaker 3: busy week eighteen Aer Tors Jason Martin, Fox.

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Speaker 6: Sports thirty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. This is the Jason

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Speaker 3: Smith Show with Mike Harmon. Jason and Mike are out,

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Speaker 3: there'll be back Monday. Arnie Spaniard and VJ Husky in

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Speaker 3: this spot and twelve minutes from now, Adam Auslin filling

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Speaker 3: in for Ben Maler. Should mention if you missed any

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 3: Just search Jason Smith and Mike Harmon where you get

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Speaker 3: your podcasts, and you'll find today's show and a best

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Speaker 3: of version posted right after we get off air. J

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Speaker 3: mart So, by the way, Jason Martin aratorres in. We

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Speaker 3: are also in every Saturday in this exact same time

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Speaker 3: slot eleven to two am Eastern time, eight to eleven Pacific, and.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be coming on.

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Speaker 3: They're a pretty big NFL game, So tysher, give us

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Speaker 3: a little music, put us in the mood we have.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we've talked one single second of NFL,

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Speaker 3: and I think the bosses understand why.

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Speaker 4: But we will be coming on.

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Speaker 3: As I just said, off of that, Seattle San Francisco

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Speaker 3: game winner gets the number one seed. Winner gets home

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Speaker 3: field advantage throughout the playoffs. Any strong opinions on this one.

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Speaker 3: As San Francisco host Seattle, I.

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Speaker 6: Don't know about strong opinions. I just I think it's

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Speaker 6: an important game for Seattle because the closer you get

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Speaker 6: to the postseason, the more you're gonna start to feel like, uh, oh,

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Speaker 6: is Sam Darnold ready for this?

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Speaker 4: Ingo?

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Speaker 6: I think that's that's the thing is I think you

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Speaker 6: want Sam Darnald to have a good game here. I

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Speaker 6: don't know how I feel about how it's gonna go,

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Speaker 6: but if he goes out there and has a dud,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna say, oh, no, I've seen this before. If

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Speaker 6: he goes out there and has a solid game, especially

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Speaker 6: against a San Francisco team that's really functioning well and

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Speaker 6: brock Perty's playing maybe the best football of his entire

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Speaker 6: career right now, I think that's the key is just

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Speaker 6: Donald needs to remind people he could potentially do this

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Speaker 6: at the end of the season as opposed to what

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Speaker 6: we've seen a couple times in his career, which is

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Speaker 6: pretty much up until it really matters, he's winning big games.

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Speaker 6: And look, he's done that this season. He's done it

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Speaker 6: even in the last couple of weeks. But we recall

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Speaker 6: how that ended last year in Minnesota, and he wants

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Speaker 6: to make sure people forget about that.

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Speaker 3: So that was my exact thought on the game, is

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Speaker 3: that I don't think. I don't think that Sam Donald,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know. I do think that Sam Donald

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Speaker 3: can change the narrative. I don't know if he will,

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Speaker 3: and certainly he's going to be defined by what he

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Speaker 3: does in the playoffs, not in this game. But you

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Speaker 3: go out complete dud, one touchdown, three interceptions. There's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a lot of discourse coming in to our show

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Speaker 3: on Saturday night and then of course going into Sunday.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Jmart correct me if I'm wrong. So

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Speaker 3: Panthers Bucks, Yeah, is it for the division title or

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Speaker 3: because Atlanta beat the Rams? I believe Atlanta can somehow

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Speaker 3: get in.

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Speaker 6: No, Atlanta can't get in.

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Speaker 4: But not winning Boiler Yeah, it's not winning your in

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Speaker 4: for the West.

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Speaker 6: It's well no, no, no, No, it's not win if

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Speaker 6: you're in if you're Tampa Bay, I think it is

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Speaker 6: if you're Carolina. Tampa Bay has played it so they

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Speaker 6: don't even control their own destiny anymore.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So let's after starting out six and two, just crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: a lot of injuries. They have lost four straight coming

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Speaker 3: into this one, including to the Panthers just a few

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Speaker 3: weeks ago in Charlotte. This game is in Tampa. What

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Speaker 3: do you make of this one?

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Speaker 6: Dude? I don't even know. Yeah, I mean really, I

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Speaker 6: don't know. I think Carolina, I mean, yeah, Look, Mike

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Speaker 6: Evans has come back off the injuries, but pretty good.

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Speaker 6: Over the last few weeks. That offense has regressed a lot.

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Speaker 6: They've done, They've dealt with a lot of injuries. I

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Speaker 6: get that Baker hadn't played nearly as well in this

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Speaker 6: last handful of weeks, and it's just been kind of

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Speaker 6: a tumultuous time. But you go back to that game

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Speaker 6: they found a way to lose to Atlanta on Monday

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Speaker 6: night or this Thursday night game. I think it was

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Speaker 6: just an atrocious way to lose in that situation. This

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Speaker 6: just seems like Tampa's gonna implode here, like really, of

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Speaker 6: the two, Carolina is the one this most deserving because

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Speaker 6: I feel like they've actually improved and played pretty hard football.

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Speaker 6: But you just never know, because you just what's Bryce

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Speaker 6: Young and the offense gonna give you. In that spot,

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Speaker 6: I think I'll take Carolina. But I mean, neither one

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Speaker 6: of these teams do I see doing much in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: So I agree, is yeah, somebody's got to win the division.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the tiebreaker, I'm trying to find it

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Speaker 3: really quick here, it's weird.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was.

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Speaker 3: Contingent on Atlanta winning, which they did, all right, So

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Speaker 3: Panthers win. If the Panthers win, they clinched NFC South.

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Speaker 3: If the Bucks win, Tampa wins the NFC.

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Speaker 4: South with.

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Speaker 6: Happen or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So the Saints would have to beat the

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Speaker 4: Falcons soon.

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Speaker 6: That's it.

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Speaker 3: So Bucks win, Saints beat the Falcons, then the Bucks

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Speaker 3: are in Bucks win, Falcons beat the Saints. It's a

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Speaker 3: three way tie and it actually goes to tiebreakers, So

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Speaker 3: I don't it doesn't sound like if the Bucks win

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Speaker 3: and the Falcons win necessarily that they're eliminated.

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Speaker 6: Listen, I think the Falcons are limited either way. Listen,

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Speaker 6: the South is a dumpster fire.

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Speaker 3: Fansided dot Com is not helping me right now, Way

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Speaker 3: too many words to not tell me how this division

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Speaker 3: goes down real quick. Obviously the big one on Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, Jmart. You know, you and I obviously were

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Speaker 3: on air on Saturday when the Ravens beat the Packers,

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Speaker 3: and we're sitting there saying, yeah, okay, but as as

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Speaker 3: long as Pittsburgh beats Cleveland, this is a non starter.

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Speaker 3: Will Pittsburgh loses to Cleveland, setting up a winner, go

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Speaker 3: home AFC North title game between Pittsburgh and Baltimore. I

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Speaker 3: know I just said any strong thoughts on this.

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Speaker 6: One, Yeah, I think Baltimore wins it. I just do Lamar.

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Speaker 6: I think Lamar actually wants to make a statement in

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Speaker 6: this game. Things have not been good for him, and

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Speaker 6: even the media seems to have turned on him a

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Speaker 6: little bit in this last couple of weeks. They were

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Speaker 6: our Super Bowl pick Aaron coming into the year. I

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Speaker 6: think they're gonna find a way to sneak into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be quick, No, DK Metcalf, I actually feel

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Speaker 3: bad for Aaron Rodgers, Yes, but I'll take Baltimore as well.

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Speaker 4: We got to get out of here.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back eleven pm Eastern Time on Saturday. Want

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Speaker 3: to thank the crew, Alex Tysher on the board, producer

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Speaker 3: Bree Manzi Belanios for my partner Jason Martin I mentors.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate Jason and Mike letting us fill in. They'll

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Speaker 3: be back Monday. Adam all is the next Fox Sports

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